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vagrant cargo
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he aint all that

trail perch
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He's better than like FRDWNR and Molf

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and Michelle

hot onyx
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Now I’m confident in Hotba

trail perch
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but like other than that, showcheng

vagrant cargo
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even ark said hes the most overrated player in OWL lmaoo

trail perch
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and those 4 are it

hot onyx
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I’ve watched the VODs and he’s good

vagrant cargo
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so did i

hot onyx
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Pretty great actually

vagrant cargo
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hes average

trail perch
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He's literally like #16

vagrant cargo
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watch his performances vs seoul and chengdu in countdown cup

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or anytime they faced shanghai

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whenever he faces a team that isnt whacky he flops

trail perch
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Yeah any competent team fucks him

vagrant cargo
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and gets punished

trail perch
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Actually watch him the 2 times they lost to NYXL

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KEKW

vagrant cargo
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even tho alarm and fastro are babysitting his ass

hot onyx
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trail perch
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He was hot ass both of those

hot onyx
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Wow Hotba played pretty well there

vagrant cargo
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yeah i forgot philly beat the not scrimming SHD

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w lip hard throwing

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crazy

north relic
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while i agree hotba isnt like top 8

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he isnt bottom 5 either

hot onyx
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Damn you really gonna believe that because Shanghai didn’t practise as often that they were hard throwing

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They weren’t trying to lose they still tried

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Then they played WhoRU tracer

vagrant cargo
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lip was hard throwing

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not SHD as a whole

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they also lost to NYXL LMAO

hot onyx
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Yeah two tournaments ago

vagrant cargo
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kalios is better than hotba too

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no

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they also lost to NYXL in CC

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guess ur not watching NYXL 🤓

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north relic
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hes talking about shd i think

hot onyx
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No I was talking about NYXL

vagrant cargo
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SHD LOST TO NYXL

north relic
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yes

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they did

vagrant cargo
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not fucking philly

north relic
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so nyxl #1 apac

hot onyx
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Oh sorry I thought you were the numpty but it was I

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Honestly NYXL towards the end of the season upgraded hard

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And they definitely deserved that playin spot over Spark

vagrant cargo
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they were still average

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and it almost went to a map 5

north relic
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they should replace yakpung and maybe get a better fdps but feather is fine ig

hot onyx
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Rebuild around Friday

vagrant cargo
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new ms new fdps new mt

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jjonak kalios flora good core

north relic
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gwb also

hot onyx
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Gwangboong

tacit skiff
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Rebuild around Myunbong

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
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Watch NYXL add someone like Sungeun

tacit skiff
hot onyx
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And be like “ok fans we’re done sucking the talent out of good players now let’s put that juice into SLG’s main tank”

tacit skiff
next mesa
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Sungeun?

hot onyx
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Main tank player for Starlight Gaming in Korean Contenders

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Literally mid tier at best

north relic
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yo guys we dont need a main tank tho

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ow2 coming out

hot onyx
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Likely an upgrade to Yakpung but so is Changsik

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Nah mate off tank is gonna be the one rendered useless

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So one of your only good players is going to be benched for 90% of next season

stuck radish
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main tank players will prob really benefit off 5v5

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ball winston are going to be good in 5v5

north relic
raw ermine
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oh no

next mesa
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oh no OH NO

north relic
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better than expected for me

noble nexus
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that's so sad holy fuck

plush grail
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nero cut > sans cut

north relic
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is this a wig

plush grail
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id still hit

willow tartan
north relic
willow tartan
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?????

north relic
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its a fusion jersey who else would it be

willow tartan
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why is he spreading his legs so much

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mf arachnid

north relic
next mesa
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nice dude

north relic
willow tartan
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mm i seee

plush grail
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chad

hot onyx
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Can confirm that is me

hot onyx
raw ermine
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oof drama

north relic
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What’s with the 🤖

balmy python
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SUPER IS THE BEST OW PLAYER EVER

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HAHAHAHAHAJJAHAJAJAJAJAHAA NOTHING CAN BEAT HIS THROWING REIN AND SHIT MCREE AND BRONZE WIDOW

north relic
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Wrong account dink

balmy python
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OMG OMG HE GOT TWO RINGS HOLY COW SHEESH PROBOBLY BRIBING ANS TO FUCK HIM

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oh

balmy python
plush grail
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lmaoo

balmy python
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Who wants to play gold to plat comp

plush grail
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Sans

hot onyx
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Nah I am busy with your attractive mother but maybe later

last nimbus
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okay i cant send pictures here but am i the only one thinking that dalton's vancouver titans profile picture is straight up his head photoshopped onto a random body

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that neck looks so weird

raw ermine
noble nexus
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I was under the impression it was his head photoshopped onto some random dudes body

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is that not the case?

north relic
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Might be they fucked up his head lighting editing it

last nimbus
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okay after further inspection i too think its the lighting

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holy shit playoffs in less than 3 days

gusty rampart
plush grail
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stfu

noble nexus
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stfu

plush grail
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not u

sullen berry
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Don't actually send money there, 5Head

plush grail
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some dumbass like sans or marbel would still do it

noble nexus
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I'ma do it

plush grail
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glads fans have no money

sullen berry
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what are you smoking

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they spent most of it on a Toyota

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followed by driving lessons

plush grail
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what

sullen berry
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guys, veto luigi

plush grail
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i have seen that word twice now and i do not know what it means

sullen berry
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I thought you would have learned the first time ngl

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ask your gf to veto you

plush grail
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smh this is mean

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im dutch

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how am i supposed to know

north relic
next mesa
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guys should I get: mild burrito bowl but its BOGO or a ghost pepper burrito bowl

stuck radish
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whichever one is as hot as your takes

next mesa
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my takes are mild

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also fuel 4-3 dragons in at thrilling finals classic series that we will never forget

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further proof that ta1yo is shock's key to success

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look at who they're targetting

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dragons sending chinese spies bro

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too bad his gamesense is cracked irl too

next mesa
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yeah babyyyyyyyyyyyy

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although I think glads beat fusions 3-2

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BUT YEAH BABY

hot onyx
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So do I but upsets exist for a reason

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AND YEAH BABY

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Brb gonna go lock in 100k

queen notch
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imagine its chengdu vs shanghai 😳

hot onyx
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Very plausible

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But something just tells me that ball isn’t gonna be the strongest meta in the playoffs

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Like the script for example because YEEEEEAAAAAHHH BABYYYYYYY

next mesa
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but they win because they are protagonists

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no other team has the protagonist fearless sparkle buff

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im gonna lock my preds too wait

hot onyx
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My nan simply theorised that they were “on speed” during the May Melee

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So I theorised that they saved up their speed supply during the Countdown Cup so that they could double up on playoffs

next mesa
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I think there's gonna be more 3-0s than we all think.. but I have no idea what

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sullen berry
tawdry hamlet
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Shanghai LAG finals or bust

north relic
next mesa
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they come back better

tawdry hamlet
tropic herald
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SHD 4-2 GLA

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ez

tawdry hamlet
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Yes

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I infact have that bracket

earnest leaf
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I got a hot take

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Glads are gonna let dpei out of the closet and he's gonna fuck everything up

tawdry hamlet
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Hmm

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He could

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I have a lukewarm take, most teams caught up to Dallas and they will make a quiet exit to a team like Chengdu

earnest leaf
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I could see it happening

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Especially if the meta turns out of their favor

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Like dallas has done really well this season, but they got super lucky meta wise

tawdry hamlet
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Idk something in my brain just says Dallas can't do it like they did the first two months but I also don't want to count them out since they are better than most of na just by existing

earnest leaf
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tbf dallas was one fight away from winning the second tourney 4-1

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah exactly that's why I rate both month one and two highly for them

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That series was wild

earnest leaf
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It was over the second fearless swapped to hog for a fight

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You don't swap to hog as a MT player unless you're tilted

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I'm just really curious to see what ends up being meta

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and if shd/dallas can kick it back into high gear right away

north relic
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Shanghai probably can since they want to destroy shock and Dallas have justice

next mesa
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Did they get lucky though or are they just so good that they can define metas

earnest leaf
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They did do really well but yes they did get some luck on their side

tropic herald
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Tracer just happened to be hard meta for most of the season

earnest leaf
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But huge credits to sparkle for learning tracer

next mesa
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Sparkle pog

earnest leaf
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I'd say it was probably 80% dallas being good, and the rest luck

next mesa
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In an alternate universe sparkle is the most cracked hitscan in the league I can see it

stuck radish
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in an alternate universe vancouver rolls s4 shanghai

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i wouldve said valiant but theyre so bad that no alternate universes can save them

earnest leaf
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There's also a universe we get orisa ashe/tracer meta all season and florida is top 3

tropic herald
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Yaki tracer CoolGuy

earnest leaf
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Also is this a hot take

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Whoever wins in the shd/shock match wins it all

tawdry hamlet
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Depends on how convincingly

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A 2-3 overtime or a Shanghai meme off meta comp vs a dominant 3-1/3-2 shock win type thing

earnest leaf
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I just think if shanghai wins, it confirms they can come back full force

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And if shock wins, it means they leveled up somehow

stuck radish
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i like how most people are saying shock is the true test for shanghai instead of dallas

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lmao

earnest leaf
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I wouldn't say the "true test"

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I don't think any team really qualifies as that kind of team vs shd

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Just shock is a team that generally performs in playoffs

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And will be running comps shd aren't used to, so if shanghai can overcome that, most other teams shouldn't be that hard

tawdry hamlet
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I mean Chengdu LAG and Dallas are the only real threats after shock considering Shanghai has beat nearly everyone in the tourney in several metas besides LAG and justice and Shock

earnest leaf
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justice are going 0-2

tawdry hamlet
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Atlanta as well 😎

earnest leaf
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they hard struggled to beat houston who was also struggling

tawdry hamlet
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Atlanta got decimated three tourneys straight with and without their best players. Justice just aren't good enough, neither are philly. Chengdu is good but imo their ceiling is too low to stand up to Shanghai if they struggle against both Dallas and LAG

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Shanghai have all the odds in their favor

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It'd be incredibly amusing to watch them lose

earnest leaf
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If shd doesn't win i'm gonna tilt

tawdry hamlet
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I mean I don't even like Shanghai and I'd tilt lmao

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It would be so insufferably frustrating to see

trail perch
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cause OGE orisa KekW

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But alternate universe we get winston Dva ashetracer

earnest leaf
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His orisa is decent enough to not turbo feed

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Yaki/bqb/gangnamjin would carry

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But shd should be able to get too GF through the winners bracket

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I don't see them realistically losing to anyone

worn falcon
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i need my hopium for Shock beatin SHD

earnest leaf
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Perfect bracket

stuck radish
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i have yet to see a bracket where shock wins round 1

worn falcon
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my hopium

earnest leaf
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Because while there is high hopium for shock

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most people aren't that far gone for it

worn falcon
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i really wish Shock goes that long

earnest leaf
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close to what I have

tropic herald
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How do people think Glads lose to Philly HECK_cry

earnest leaf
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then shock losing out 4-3 in finals to shd

tropic herald
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Glads is just Philly but better

earnest leaf
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idk why anyone believes in philly

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They had a season almost worse than justice

next mesa
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shock copium

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everyone shock copium

worn falcon
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there is hope for Carpe ml7Bless

next mesa
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nah nah

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Also glads 3-2 philly

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although dont underestimate philly's power to ge t#2

balmy wolf
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Birdring pog

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What does copium mean?

tropic herald
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Copium is like

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Uhh

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My team lost Bc they didn’t want to win

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When the team lost Bc they were worse

next mesa
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ex: sentinels lost berlin because its just seeding bro

gusty rampart
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Sentinels try not to baby rage challenge

tawdry hamlet
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ex: shock are going to win finals

gusty rampart
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That's more hopium

tawdry hamlet
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Ok better ex: Justice have a chance guys, they were only bad because they didn't play decay enough

tropic herald
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Shock didn’t beat glads and make CC Bc Hawaii isn’t nice in August

gusty rampart
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Hawaii is better in September hahahaha

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Bro

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I just want Monday to not exist

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Please be playoffs already

balmy wolf
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Ohh soo copium is like "Oh my gosh huston is only trash because they traded linkzr"

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which is wrong

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but

gusty rampart
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Linkzr isn't good lol

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Happy better

balmy wolf
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Yee

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ik

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I didnt actually mean that

gusty rampart
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Good.

balmy wolf
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or annother example is Vancouver is trash because they didnt trade dalton or something like that

tawdry hamlet
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aBES_Hyper copium is essentially making up excuses for your fav team losing

gusty rampart
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Mayhem had a valid excuse

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I still don't understand why they didn't sign a MT

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gusty rampart
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Thanks

modern violet
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please shut up zep

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queen notch
jagged viper
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i thnk theyd be midtable

queen notch
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they wouldnt be winning every single game

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they’d still be top tier

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dive was one of their strengths and look at the current meta

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go look at twilight, the dudes one of the best flex supports rn

sullen berry
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okay sure who would win between Gritty from Philadelphia Fusion or Vancouver Titans carl

supple prism
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Carl?

tawdry hamlet
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I don't think peak titans was nearly as impressive as we thought by modern comparison and hindsight but at the time they were great

supple prism
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they tossed the original Titans

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the original titan players are now all on different teams and they are all still good

earnest leaf
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Haksal genji

supple prism
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except for the main tank

next mesa
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Easily win

earnest leaf
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Only twilight, slime. And seominsoo got on new teams

tawdry hamlet
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Like genuinely though other than twilight name a Vancouver titan who had more than mediocre at best performances post break up

earnest leaf
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Jjannu stitch

tawdry hamlet
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I mean playoffs I guess but justice were ass season 3

earnest leaf
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They didn't join until very late

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But people forgot about what they were doing in playoffs

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Since decay was the main character

tawdry hamlet
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Nah I didn't

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Stitch was hitting shots

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I like stitch

earnest leaf
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People forgot stitch was matching ans on ashe all series long

tawdry hamlet
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But everyone always says he's washed and meh waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

earnest leaf
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jjannu was doing nasty things on sig and hog too

tawdry hamlet
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It was clearly a Roar Diff

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Also did ark play that series?

earnest leaf
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Ark was on mercy the whole time in playoffs

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and did pretty well

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It sucks that all of justice gets completely overshadowed that playoff run by decay

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When legit the entire team was fucking popping

tawdry hamlet
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I noticed stitch and the roadhog play was good not much of the other players at the time

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I remember stitch though because flick hitscan is my favorite part of owl

earnest leaf
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we need aimgod back

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look at this unit

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get him on nyxl and have him and jjonak perma start

tawdry hamlet
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800 2 been good for his arms sheesh

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He needed the strength for his low sense

devout path
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How big is his mousepad

willow tartan
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final approach

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40 hours remaining

mortal cipher
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Ah

vagrant cargo
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Man

willow tartan
sullen berry
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clowns, the whole lot of them

willow tartan
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Nah, I think he's right

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dragons will win or lose

fresh helm
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This game died when OWL went to YouTube

willow tartan
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true, youtube killed overwatch

balmy wolf
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bruh

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plush grail
next mesa
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Jjanus hog had an argument to be made as #1 hog

sullen berry
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had

willow tartan
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last year the best hog player wasnt even an off tank 5Head

willow tartan
hot onyx
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I meant I miss him playing professionally

north relic
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How good was he during ss

willow tartan
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he was not in the summer showdown.

plush grail
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daan is the best hog

last nimbus
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i want to see shock vs justice

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and see justice win

gusty rampart
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If Shock wins tomorrow I expect apology letters in my DMs

willow tartan
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If shock wins tomorrow I will personally build you an apology in Minecraft.

hot onyx
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If Shock wins I will question how much money was given to the Dragons to sandbag

hot onyx
plush grail
north relic
willow tartan
hot onyx
plush grail
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sans

hot onyx
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Linguini

plush grail
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ready to go to korea

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and not win a single map?

hot onyx
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Jokes on you they’re already in Korea

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And there’s no sudden hog meta that fucks over multiple good teams

plush grail
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u will lose

hot onyx
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At least it won’t be a final loss to the Justice for the third season in a row

plush grail
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still bad

hot onyx
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Sorry can’t hear you over the VOD of Decay ripping your team into an unresponsive state

plush grail
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1 blocked msg

hot onyx
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Paris fan can’t handle reality that Europe is a failed region and that British players are better

willow tartan
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Britain left Europe because EU OW is shit

hot onyx
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Very true

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Kai and FunnyAstro deserve better

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Fusions >> Daan

plush grail
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big talk for a oversized fucking rat

hot onyx
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Small talk from a miniature gorilla

vagrant cargo
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Kinda funny consider the two best european players arent british

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Kevster kaan > Kai fastro

plush grail
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WHO ASKED

vagrant cargo
plush grail
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Oh yeah I forgot ur the guy who legit jerks off to the thought of kevster

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He's not even that good

vagrant cargo
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Sure bro

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Hes just bad ur right

hot onyx
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Hey Luigi

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EQO > Kevster

vagrant cargo
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Its not like He is top 2 on every dps hero he played this season

vagrant cargo
willow tartan
plush grail
willow tartan
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what hero is kevster top 2 on

plush grail
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Kevster is like mid tier

vagrant cargo
plush grail
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He's not that good

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Actually shut up

hot onyx
plush grail
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I've said this since like 2020

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Kevster is overrated as fuck

vagrant cargo
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Yeah ur also not smart lol

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Kevster is beyond cracked

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If he was korean or American ppl would dickride him so hard

plush grail
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Well when is he gonna show it because he sure as hell ddidnt show it this year

vagrant cargo
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?

hot onyx
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Kevster is only good because he has a good backline and main tank now

vagrant cargo
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He literally won a tourney 😭

plush grail
vagrant cargo
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And was glads best or second best player every game

plush grail
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Are you legit okay

vagrant cargo
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Ppl alwayw underrate EU players

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Its a Region thing not a race thing

hot onyx
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Kevster is literally only rated for being European

vagrant cargo
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U either have the koreaboos who are still stuck on APEX or the NA 3heads who think nero is S tier

hot onyx
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If he was Korean or Chinese he would be seen as mid tier at best

vagrant cargo
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And consider danteh a S tier tracer

plush grail
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I'm legit the biggest EU simp

vagrant cargo
plush grail
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I rate naga onigod and poko so high

vagrant cargo
plush grail
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But I don't rate kevster

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Bcs he's not good

hot onyx
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Is he the third best European fdps in owl? Yes but where is the competition?

vagrant cargo
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Third?

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What?

plush grail
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WE DID IT BOYS WE HAVE FOUND THE WORST TAKE OF THE YEAR 2021

hot onyx
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2nd Naga 1st EQO

vagrant cargo
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EQO first 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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what has eqo done this year besides being good on pharah and Solid on echo

plush grail
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Sans eqo isn't Korean so u can't rate him high

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Those are the rules

vagrant cargo
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He is worse on every hero they share except pharah and maybe genji

hot onyx
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Popped the fuck off on sombra and tracer when they aren’t even in his traditional hero pool

willow tartan
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are you saying that kevster is underrated because he is european?

vagrant cargo
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Nah

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Im saying ppl are discrediting him bexause of that

hot onyx
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And been a top tier genji when he busted it out occasionally

willow tartan
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so that's exactly what you mean

plush grail
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That is exactly what memeicus just said

vagrant cargo
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There are Loads of intelligent ppl who knows hes cracked

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Just a bunch of stupid mfs like luigi

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
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Also eqo cracked on tracer and somvra?

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What?

plush grail
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@ me when kevster does something worthwhile in a game

willow tartan
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kevster is a good player but hes not top 2 fdps sorry

vagrant cargo
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I mean yeah

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Pelican leave are better

willow tartan
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he's like

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top 5 fdps

vagrant cargo
vagrant cargo
hot onyx
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Top 5000 fdps is where I rate Kevster

vagrant cargo
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I have him as third/fourth depending on how important u consider tracer

willow tartan
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dont worry im subbing in for kevster since glads are gonna lose before GF

vagrant cargo
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Id say in tracer heavy metas hes top 3 outside of that id take fleta over him

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And for 5th either sp9rk1e or yaki

hot onyx
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Teru > Kevster

willow tartan
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well

plush grail
willow tartan
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maybe we will find out who the better tracer is in the head to head this weekend

vagrant cargo
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Between fleta and kevster?

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Ye

hot onyx
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Hotba vs Kevster tracer

willow tartan
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statswise LIP is the best tracer btw sunglassesvery3dcool

hot onyx
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Carpe vs Mirror zarya

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Ez dub

vagrant cargo
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Wouldnt be surprised if fleta performs better on tracer

plush grail
#

if fusion wins i will drink and not stop drinking

vagrant cargo
#

Because he for sure has the higher peak

#

As a player

willow tartan
#

he played most of 2020 on the tracer

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
#

Yeah He was amazing on her

plush grail
#

pubs are for virgins

hot onyx
plush grail
#

vodka at home with the boys

willow tartan
#

pubs are for losers who need social interaction to survive

#

real gamers dont need "outside"

plush grail
#

memeicus shut up

#

u dont go outside

willow tartan
#

exactly

#

im a real gamer

plush grail
#

i have a gf

#

im a fake gamer

willow tartan
#

thats what gf stands for

#

fake gamer

plush grail
#

???

hot onyx
#

Not a fake gamer if your gf is animated

#

You’re in the club a little longer

willow tartan
#

The only GF I care about is the Overwatch League Season 4 2021 Grand Finals

plush grail
#

i also only care about the finals

#

and not my gf

willow tartan
#

yeah fuck her

plush grail
hot onyx
#

Luigi onlyfans when?

willow tartan
#

cant. onlyfans does not allow NSFL content

vagrant cargo
#

I wanna c a Luigi facereveal

hot onyx
#

I wanna c you shut up

vagrant cargo
#

?

#

Ok weirdo

plush grail
willow tartan
#

yes

vagrant cargo
#

yes.

willow tartan
#

koreans are very attractive people

vagrant cargo
#

Idk for how long u have been on OWL Discs or some shit like that but that has been a thing since OWL S1

#

Even OWL players from EU will tell u that EU players get underrated

#

Idk why ur making such a big drama out of it

hot onyx
vagrant cargo
#

Ok?

willow tartan
#

Maybe EU players are rated lower because the region's best and most successful team after being fully transported to OWL with all their players and analysts went 1-15 this season sunglassesvery3dcool

vagrant cargo
willow tartan
#

if eu players are underrated then why hasnt a european team won a championship

vagrant cargo
#

Also BH didnt have danne they downgraded w blase who is just not easy to work w

vagrant cargo
#

Britring

#

Probrit

willow tartan
#

they got sparkr back you know

vagrant cargo
#

+BH just kinda got boomed

#

And never got out of that slump past Maylee

willow tartan
#

idk man its their rookie season. hopefully next year will be better for them

vagrant cargo
#

And bro

#

Hybrid

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Hybrid is like the worst hitscsn in the game

willow tartan
#

you cant really blame the BH's failures on hybrid or blase

vagrant cargo
#

To some extent

#

Both played like shit which lead London to be boomed

plush grail
#

blase > kevster

zealous venture
#

i hate the owl schedule

willow tartan
#

literally rewiring my sleep schedule so i can watch owl games

vagrant cargo
willow tartan
#

dont want to miss a second of content

vagrant cargo
#

Watxh next thing u gonna say is "it wasnt a joke 🤓🤓🤓"

plush grail
#

have work this weekend

feral wing
willow tartan
plush grail
#

but my team got eliminated

vagrant cargo
#

Yeah cuz they suck

willow tartan
feral wing
#

an all EU team would easily clap an all NA one and could compete with or even beat an all CN team 🤷‍♂️

zealous venture
#

grand finals at 4 am

zealous venture
#

earliest game is at 1 am

plush grail
#

also I work with my brother so i cant call in sick sadgeCry

willow tartan
feral wing
#

......

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theres an all eu team in the league......

#

😭

vagrant cargo
#

I think Leave Shy Jinmu Ga9a Lateyoung Mmonk yveltal is better than Kevster Kai Naga Hadi Vestola Kaan Fastro

willow tartan
#

is there an EU MT that isnt daan

vagrant cargo
#

Hadi w actual Support isnt bad

#

But he isnt gaga

#

I think CN team wins 3-1

plush grail
#

daan is good tho

willow tartan
#

wait who are all the EU flex supports

plush grail
#

kaan

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and ripa

vagrant cargo
#

Kaan

willow tartan
#

oh god

vagrant cargo
#

Kaan Skairipa Exorath

#

All 3 are good Kaan is very good

#

Also Daan is mediocre at best

willow tartan
#

so a european all stars team would be like Hadi/Daan Poko Kevster Shockwave FDgod Kaan

vagrant cargo
#

Vestola>Lateyoung? Hmh

feral wing
#

lateyoung overrated

vagrant cargo
#

Poko is not better than vestola

plush grail
#

memeicus

#

naga onigod

#

is cracked

willow tartan
#

shockwave > onigod

#

fuck outta here

vagrant cargo
#

Kai>both lol

plush grail
#

SHUT UP NTB I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR RAKES

willow tartan
#

kai is EU?...

vagrant cargo
#

Yes

#

Hes british

plush grail
willow tartan
#

i thought he was canadian

vagrant cargo
#

No lol

willow tartan
#

ig kai

feral wing
willow tartan
#

ehh doesnt matter

plush grail
plush grail
willow tartan
#

no he's right

feral wing
#

im norwegian

willow tartan
#

UK isnt part of EU anymore

feral wing
#

i just dont claim brits

vagrant cargo
#

Also for someone who doesnt care u seem to get pretty worked up over my opinions luigi

plush grail
#

UK is on the continent

willow tartan
#

no its not

plush grail
#

just not european union

willow tartan
#

its an island

#

you fuckwit

plush grail
#

dumbass

vagrant cargo
#

I mean EQO isnt EU technicaly

plush grail
#

i hate u all

feral wing
#

yes but we dont want britain

willow tartan
#

EQO isnt EU at all

#

he's israeli isnt he

vagrant cargo
#

Yeah

#

W Colombian parents

plush grail
#

EQO is half colombian

vagrant cargo
#

But he played in the EU Region

willow tartan
#

colombian is not european

feral wing
#

no shit

plush grail
#

colombia is sa

vagrant cargo
#

So ppl consider him EU

plush grail
#

i know

#

memeicus im not that dumb

willow tartan
#

You'd never know...

plush grail
#

im half south american

#

why would i not know

vagrant cargo
#

Vut eqo doesnt even need to be considered because Kevster and Naga are better anyways

willow tartan
#

NA super team would be uhhh

vagrant cargo
#

Shit

plush grail
#

NA is in shambles rn

vagrant cargo
#

Nero Aspire Danteh Super Space UV Moth

#

Damn NA is doomed

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willow tartan
#

UV isnt owl

plush grail
vagrant cargo
#

We do only OWL?

#

Crimzo 💀

rocky jewel
#

an eu super team would fuck a na one so bad

#

the dps diff would be huge

vagrant cargo
#

Yes

willow tartan
#

of course

#

NA and EU are bad regions

plush grail
#

EU is best

rocky jewel
#

na is the worst major region for owl players

willow tartan
#

yes EU is a minor region

rocky jewel
#

the best na owl player is what

#

space?

#

best eu is kev

#

kev carries space

#

ez

vagrant cargo
#

Real

willow tartan
#

yeah idk how you think an eu team beats a cn team though

vagrant cargo
#

EU is not a worse major Region than NA

willow tartan
#

like in what meta

rocky jewel
#

it could

vagrant cargo
#

In no galaxy

plush grail
rocky jewel
#

eu team could beat cn team

vagrant cargo
#

CN is china

willow tartan
rocky jewel
#

cn would be what

vagrant cargo
#

U bum

rocky jewel
#

leave

#

elieen

#

shy

#

gaga

vagrant cargo
#

Lateyount

#

Or LiGe actually

rocky jewel
#

nisha mmonk

#

eu could beat that

#

na would not

willow tartan
#

thats some major hopium

#

EU worse at every position

vagrant cargo
#

Yeah

#

EU loses that

rocky jewel
#

not ot

vagrant cargo
#

Id take kaan>mmonk tho

#

Also LiGe when je isnt depressed>vestola

#

Oh and funnyastro>yveltal

rocky jewel
#

its nisha not yvetal

#

the dps diff for cn is not really big

vagrant cargo
#

Kevster can keep up w leave and Kai wouldnt get diffed too hard by shy i think

rocky jewel
#

kai and shy are close

vagrant cargo
#

But id still take china

willow tartan
#

the flex support difference is pretty huge

rocky jewel
#

not really

vagrant cargo
#

Huh

#

Kaan>=mmonk

rocky jewel
#

mmonk zen >

vagrant cargo
#

One has a good team and a good coach other one has Paris

rocky jewel
#

kaan ana >

willow tartan
#

CN/EU/ combined team loses to the dragons though sunglassesvery3dcool

rocky jewel
#

kaan bap>

vagrant cargo
#

Kaan is like genuinly insane

#

Dudes just forced to go for risky plays because thats the only way Paris win

rocky jewel
#

him with a better mt

next mesa
#

What would eu superteam be

#

Is Daan the mt

#

Idk NA team would slap

vagrant cargo
#

Kevster Kai Naga Hadi/Daan Vestola/Alexander Kaan Fastro

#

Dps and Support diff is way to big for EU

rocky jewel
#

na is like

#

nero aspire super space moth uv

#

and

next mesa
#

Huge tank diff

rocky jewel
#

not really lol

next mesa
#

So big

rocky jewel
#

so true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

willow tartan
#

nero gaming

next mesa
#

Also cn slaps eu

willow tartan
#

10 times out of 1

next mesa
#

And why don't we use asia

#

So big

#

Shy Leave

willow tartan
#

cause asia includes korea

next mesa
#

Continent vs continent

willow tartan
#

it would just be shanghai vs eu

next mesa
#

Eu couldn't beat shanghai

willow tartan
#

neither could CN

#

i mean the whole of CN superteam is basically CDH except with shy

#

guxue too for monke

vagrant cargo
#

Space to vestola isnt a massive diff and Super off rein/orisa lol

willow tartan
#

???

vagrant cargo
#

Plus hadi literally diffed super in that 3:2

#

Super is C tier on ball Winston

willow tartan
#

super is better at all tanks than daan/hadi

vagrant cargo
#

Sure but not by a large margin on ball and Winston

next mesa
#

Well neither could na CN maybe

vagrant cargo
#

Also put super on London and he would look as bad

#

Because 0 Support

next mesa
#

Lige probably better than lateyoung

willow tartan
#

true

#

give me LiGe damn it

#

fk you mcd

barren quest
#

We don't know about that tho

vagrant cargo
#

Wym

next mesa
barren quest
#

Since uh LiGe never played a single game in OWL

vagrant cargo
#

Daan isnt good

willow tartan
#

NA + CN + EU vs KR

vagrant cargo
#

I agree

barren quest
#

Because Spark "coaching" xDDDD

vagrant cargo
#

Leave Kevster Ga9a Space Kaan/mmonk Funnyastro

zealous venture
willow tartan
#

moth vs fastro?

barren quest
#

Chinese player to Western team when

willow tartan
#

idk moth cause hes permabenched by a brig 1trick

vagrant cargo
#

Moth doesnt fit that playstyle imo

next mesa
#

I would still take shy leave

vagrant cargo
#

And fastro brig is genuinly cracked

#

I mean shy as a third dps is fine

willow tartan
#

mmonk > kaan btw

vagrant cargo
#

Nah

#

Mmonk only better on zen

next mesa
#

Zen gap bigger than ana gap

vagrant cargo
#

Nah kaan Zen still nutty

next mesa
#

Cuz mmonk Ana also cracked

vagrant cargo
#

And the bap gap is quite massive imo

#

Bap is mmonks worst hero by far

tepid ibex
next mesa
#

Mcd bullied him

barren quest
next mesa
#

It was never stayed that it was solved

#

So

#

And then he went two way

barren quest
#

And iirc he has said he has recovered but coaching refused to let him play

next mesa
#

Maybe he's slowly getting back to it

#

When

barren quest
#

Around 2 months ago I think

#

Could be wrong about all of this

next mesa
#

Damn send link I didn't know at all

zealous venture
#

gamer

#

hangzhou spark seemed so promising

next mesa
#

Ohh he said it on stream apparently according to comments

#

Because that exchange didn't really do anything

#

I mean say anything

willow tartan
#

bring LiGe to owl plx

worn falcon
#

Bring OWL cup to Shock plx

raw ermine
#

<@&397922982632226816>

fervent acorn
#

Thank you

raw ermine
#

np

north relic
#

pings mod on bringing trophy to shock

raw ermine
#

the mods aren't that powerful.

#

?

north relic
raw ermine
#

cringe

north relic
#

Except workshop discussion

#

Not like anyone looks at that channel

raw ermine
#

Boarding my plane to Florida and three 80 year olds are talking about how they’re armed and ready to go down fighting.

Not sure what they’re fighting but they also have to squint real closely at their phones to use them so I bet they’re crack shots with the glock.

north relic
#

Florida man goes down fighting

noble nexus
#

they're top shooters bro don't underestimate the elderly citizens

gusty rampart
#

Tomorrow will either wreck or stroke my ego

#

Shock you have to win

#

I want Memeicus' Minecraft apology letter

north relic
#

Is he making a book and quill

#

Or manually writing the letters with blocks

raw ermine
#

minecraft apology letter? Is he gonna DM you a server IP and when you join it's just a chest w/ a signed book?

north relic
#

Dink gets rickrolled

candid gyro
#

Who are people voting for more, shock or dallas?

north relic
#

Shock unironically

#

The rings were made to hypnotize people into believing them

noble nexus
#

depressing

#

shock won't go far in playoffs this time

willow tartan
raw ermine
#

maybe it's torb soldier and rein

gusty rampart
rich sentinel
#

what time is the first match tmr

#

est

willow tartan
#

10pm i think

rich sentinel
#

oh

#

oke thx

#

its says 6pm on the youtube channel

#

is that in est

gusty rampart
#

Maybe look at the time on YouTube

#

That's when it starts for you

#

Go to the stream

next mesa
#

Shock literally gonna get swept

gusty rampart
next mesa
#

I mean

#

They wont

#

So

gusty rampart
#

But if they do

#

Kindly dm me

next mesa
#

I won't bother because they will get slapped around

#

I also expect an apology

#

Dragons won #infletawebelieve

gusty rampart
#

I don't doubt they'll win but Shock hopium is strong in me

willow tartan
cedar oasis
#

Hello friends

next mesa
#

Hello

noble nexus
willow tartan
#

27 hours left gamers

#

one more day

next mesa
#

Only fuel have a slight chance of beating dragons

#

Literally 80% dragons win and 20% fuel

noble nexus
#

nah more like 20% justice

gusty rampart
#

Fuck it

#

Justice wins grand finals

willow tartan
#

I think Fuel match up better with Dragons than glads but I can also see glads beating fuel in the losers bracket

#

So it could also be that dragons and fuel avoid each other

noble nexus
#

depends which glads turned up in hawaii

#

the sadiators or the chadiators

willow tartan
#

The comps Glads play Shanghai can play better

#

Whilst with Fuel there's also the chance of Fearless just deciding not to lose like last year may melee

#

Like Dragons very nearly lost JJ

next mesa
#

Glads is just shittier shanghai

#

While fuel can do some surprise shit

#

Oh yeah let's run sparkle doom and somehow win like who knows

earnest leaf
#

I'll need like 1-2 matches of glads performing well to believe in them

#

just to make sure they stay the same from countdown cup

stuck radish
#

i feel like glads have hit their peak and wont perform to the same level they did in cc

#

or more specifically

#

shu

willow tartan
tropic herald
#

Need tomorrow to happen faster

willow tartan
#

Sleep

#

For 24 hours

north relic
#

Hibernate

young fractalBOT
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north relic
#

are these bots or actual people

plush grail
#

bots prolly

next mesa
#

If glads beat fuel

#

Dragons are winning

hot onyx
#

Hunters could make a run but something tells me that they’re gonna fall victim to the apac inconsistency

tropic herald
#

Atlanta gonna boom them

tacit skiff
#

How good is BenBest

#

I don't remember them on the eternal at all

tropic herald
#

I mean he was pretty good on eternal

#

But he also got dropped for Daan

trail perch
#

What time are the matches?

#

Est pls

earnest leaf
#

Benbest has the better rein/orisa

#

Daan has the better ball

#

idk about winston cuz EU maintanks

north relic
#

shock orange again?

#

their logo is orange on the thumbnail

tropic herald
#

All I know is BenBest didn’t perform in trials for Paris and Daan did

#

And Daan looks good enough for them

earnest leaf
#

Trials are just like scrimbux

#

I guess they valued daan's communication and ability to play ball more

north relic
#

i bet benbest's ball is good

plush grail
# north relic

what fucking brainlet is already waiting in the stream rn

earnest leaf
#

People "Wait" so they get a reminder when it starts

north relic
plush grail
north relic
plush grail
#

memeicus u can stay with me and cuddle till the finals start

mortal abyss
next mesa
#

AYO NO FUCKING WAY

#

NO

north relic
#

bait i wont believe it

next mesa
#

FUCKING WAYYY

plush grail
#

not like its gonna change anything

next mesa
#

yeah that's true

mortal abyss
#

Yeah

#

Cause quarantine

plush grail
#

they have been scrimming with hotba for months

next mesa
#

he's like a minor upgrade to hotba at best

plush grail
#

letting poko play would just be bad at this point

next mesa
#

u never know doe

#

they could be scrimming 200 ping

plush grail
#

scrimming off tank on high ping?

#

no way

mortal abyss
#

Hotba is already pounding aswell

plush grail
#

moral supports

next mesa
#

I mean mcgravy said "it made not that much of a difference i just got used to it"

#

although mcgravy is like hmmm

#

he said it because hes like

mortal abyss
#

OWL liked the tweet

next mesa
#

at the beginning of the season said fielder isnt that good

#

he said hes good but he wont be like godly "everyone expects him to be like shackles unleashed god but ping doesnt change that much" is what he said

#

poko could be secret weapon though

plush grail
#

maybe he just spent all of his free time in france practicing off-tank

#

8 am start 11 pm end

#

i wanna believe

next mesa
#

yuh yuh

#

sucks that there aren't more teams

north relic
#

how good is poko sig

plush grail
#

maybe new teams next year

#

with the whole hype around overwatch 2

#

some new investors might be interested

earnest leaf
#

We aren't getting new teams

plush grail
#

shut up

#

let me dream

earnest leaf
#

If we are getting new teams give me a minnesota team

#

so I can actually root for a team

plush grail
#

legit

#

why the FUCK

#

would they pick minnesota

raw ermine
#

As a non american, minnesota is the best state

next mesa
#

they will never do minnesota

#

minnesota timberwolves in usa

#

like nah

earnest leaf
#

I mean there is a MN CDL team

next mesa
#

Franchise leagues really kinda succ for competition

#

it would be nice if okay my dream scenario

#

24 teams

#

okay

#

every year the bottom 2-4 smt like that

#

has the chance to get kicked out of the league

#

and in the off-season

#

there would be this huge tourney probably double elimination but like each contenders region sends like 2-4 teams and they battle for the spots

plush grail
#

my dream scenario

#

paris beats your fav team

#

e

earnest leaf
#

Issue with that is t2 teams have so little funding behind them

plush grail
#

z

earnest leaf
#

A t2 team would have to abide by the owl rules and house and provided min $50k contracts to all their players

#

You would have to completely abolish the league and re-do it for that to even work

next mesa
#

that's why the league should step up and offer those things and in return = better competition

#

besides if there's some cinderella team that made it into the league I think there would be some sponsors

#

as well

earnest leaf
#

You're on more hopium than shock fans rn

balmy wolf
#

atl win owl

plush grail
#

shut up marbel

balmy wolf
#

okay kid

next mesa
#

besides that could be restructured

#

like valorant doesnt have franchised leagues

raw ermine
#

32 teams best

#

2^5

next mesa
#

bet

#

like just very ideally

hot onyx
mortal cipher
#

i like how they say defiant was a good game and proof that they are going to win

#

defiant is like good but middle of the pack

#

that shouldnt be something to prove that should be a free win

tough osprey
next mesa
#

I think there was some good shock scrimbux according to yiska

#

so yall could sniff copium on that

willow tartan
next mesa
#

also copium = too much falsified hope by fans

tough osprey
willow tartan
#

If OWL tomorrow opened their doors to any and every org to participate in you'd be lucky for like 1-2 to be successful