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Now I’m confident in Hotba
but like other than that, showcheng
even ark said hes the most overrated player in OWL lmaoo
and those 4 are it
I’ve watched the VODs and he’s good
so did i
Pretty great actually
hes average
He's literally like #16
watch his performances vs seoul and chengdu in countdown cup
or anytime they faced shanghai
whenever he faces a team that isnt whacky he flops
Yeah any competent team fucks him
and gets punished
even tho alarm and fastro are babysitting his ass
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He was hot ass both of those
Wow Hotba played pretty well there
Damn you really gonna believe that because Shanghai didn’t practise as often that they were hard throwing
They weren’t trying to lose they still tried
Then they played WhoRU tracer
Yeah two tournaments ago
kalios is better than hotba too
no
they also lost to NYXL in CC
guess ur not watching NYXL 🤓
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hes talking about shd i think
No I was talking about NYXL
SHD LOST TO NYXL
not fucking philly
so nyxl #1 apac
Oh sorry I thought you were the numpty but it was I
Honestly NYXL towards the end of the season upgraded hard
And they definitely deserved that playin spot over Spark
they should replace yakpung and maybe get a better fdps but feather is fine ig
Rebuild around Friday
gwb also
Gwangboong
Rebuild around Myunbong

Watch NYXL add someone like Sungeun

And be like “ok fans we’re done sucking the talent out of good players now let’s put that juice into SLG’s main tank”

Sungeun?
Likely an upgrade to Yakpung but so is Changsik
Nah mate off tank is gonna be the one rendered useless
So one of your only good players is going to be benched for 90% of next season
main tank players will prob really benefit off 5v5
ball winston are going to be good in 5v5
yea but i would rather have kalios on zarya than yakpung on winston in ow2
oh no OH NO
better than expected for me
that's so sad holy fuck
nero cut > sans cut
this is the guy calling you dumbass
id still hit
who is that
sans
?????
its a fusion jersey who else would it be
nice dude
he was cosplaying poko
mm i seee
chad
Can confirm that is me
No it is my hair just because it is model material doesn’t mean it is wig
Left @RIP_OVERWATCH bcs i can't handle some people in this team 🤖
oof drama
What’s with the 🤖
SUPER IS THE BEST OW PLAYER EVER
HAHAHAHAHAJJAHAJAJAJAJAHAA NOTHING CAN BEAT HIS THROWING REIN AND SHIT MCREE AND BRONZE WIDOW
Wrong account dink
My baaaad
lmaoo
Who wants to play gold to plat comp
Sans
Nah I am busy with your attractive mother but maybe later
okay i cant send pictures here but am i the only one thinking that dalton's vancouver titans profile picture is straight up his head photoshopped onto a random body
that neck looks so weird
Probably
I was under the impression it was his head photoshopped onto some random dudes body
is that not the case?
Might be they fucked up his head lighting editing it
the fading is so weird
okay after further inspection i too think its the lighting
holy shit playoffs in less than 3 days
My bad
stfu
stfu
not u
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Don't actually send money there, 5Head
some dumbass like sans or marbel would still do it
I'ma do it
glads fans have no money
what are you smoking
they spent most of it on a Toyota
followed by driving lessons
what
guys, veto luigi
i have seen that word twice now and i do not know what it means
spray pretty cool
guys should I get: mild burrito bowl but its BOGO or a ghost pepper burrito bowl
whichever one is as hot as your takes
my takes are mild
also fuel 4-3 dragons in at thrilling finals classic series that we will never forget
https://twitter.com/ta1yo_tv/status/1439690803534696451 bro what the fuck
if it hit my head i dont think i would be alive lol https://t.co/bBVCcJRMWx
further proof that ta1yo is shock's key to success
look at who they're targetting
dragons sending chinese spies bro
too bad his gamesense is cracked irl too
Yeeeeaaahhh babyy
imagine its chengdu vs shanghai 😳
Very plausible
But something just tells me that ball isn’t gonna be the strongest meta in the playoffs
Like the script for example because YEEEEEAAAAAHHH BABYYYYYYY
but they win because they are protagonists
no other team has the protagonist fearless sparkle buff
im gonna lock my preds too wait
My nan simply theorised that they were “on speed” during the May Melee
So I theorised that they saved up their speed supply during the Countdown Cup so that they could double up on playoffs
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they come back better

I got a hot take
Glads are gonna let dpei out of the closet and he's gonna fuck everything up
Hmm
He could
I have a lukewarm take, most teams caught up to Dallas and they will make a quiet exit to a team like Chengdu
I could see it happening
Especially if the meta turns out of their favor
Like dallas has done really well this season, but they got super lucky meta wise
Idk something in my brain just says Dallas can't do it like they did the first two months but I also don't want to count them out since they are better than most of na just by existing
tbf dallas was one fight away from winning the second tourney 4-1
Yeah exactly that's why I rate both month one and two highly for them
That series was wild
It was over the second fearless swapped to hog for a fight
You don't swap to hog as a MT player unless you're tilted
I'm just really curious to see what ends up being meta
and if shd/dallas can kick it back into high gear right away
Gesture always mad
Shanghai probably can since they want to destroy shock and Dallas have justice
They did do really well but yes they did get some luck on their side
Tracer just happened to be hard meta for most of the season
But huge credits to sparkle for learning tracer
Sparkle pog
I'd say it was probably 80% dallas being good, and the rest luck
In an alternate universe sparkle is the most cracked hitscan in the league I can see it
in an alternate universe vancouver rolls s4 shanghai
i wouldve said valiant but theyre so bad that no alternate universes can save them
There's also a universe we get orisa ashe/tracer meta all season and florida is top 3
Yaki tracer 
Depends on how convincingly
A 2-3 overtime or a Shanghai meme off meta comp vs a dominant 3-1/3-2 shock win type thing
I just think if shanghai wins, it confirms they can come back full force
And if shock wins, it means they leveled up somehow
i like how most people are saying shock is the true test for shanghai instead of dallas
lmao
I wouldn't say the "true test"
I don't think any team really qualifies as that kind of team vs shd
Just shock is a team that generally performs in playoffs
And will be running comps shd aren't used to, so if shanghai can overcome that, most other teams shouldn't be that hard
I mean Chengdu LAG and Dallas are the only real threats after shock considering Shanghai has beat nearly everyone in the tourney in several metas besides LAG and justice and Shock
justice are going 0-2
Atlanta as well 😎
they hard struggled to beat houston who was also struggling
Atlanta got decimated three tourneys straight with and without their best players. Justice just aren't good enough, neither are philly. Chengdu is good but imo their ceiling is too low to stand up to Shanghai if they struggle against both Dallas and LAG
Shanghai have all the odds in their favor
It'd be incredibly amusing to watch them lose
If shd doesn't win i'm gonna tilt
I mean I don't even like Shanghai and I'd tilt lmao
It would be so insufferably frustrating to see
that wouldnt make florida top tier
cause OGE orisa KekW
But alternate universe we get winston Dva ashetracer
His orisa is decent enough to not turbo feed
Yaki/bqb/gangnamjin would carry
But shd should be able to get too GF through the winners bracket
I don't see them realistically losing to anyone
i need my hopium for Shock beatin SHD
i have yet to see a bracket where shock wins round 1
my hopium
Because while there is high hopium for shock
most people aren't that far gone for it
How do people think Glads lose to Philly 
then shock losing out 4-3 in finals to shd
Glads is just Philly but better
there is hope for Carpe 
Copium is like
Uhh
My team lost Bc they didn’t want to win
When the team lost Bc they were worse
ex: sentinels lost berlin because its just seeding bro
Sentinels try not to baby rage challenge
That's more hopium
Ok better ex: Justice have a chance guys, they were only bad because they didn't play decay enough

Shock didn’t beat glads and make CC Bc Hawaii isn’t nice in August
Hawaii is better in September hahahaha
Bro
I just want Monday to not exist
Please be playoffs already
Ohh soo copium is like "Oh my gosh huston is only trash because they traded linkzr"
which is wrong
but
Good.
or annother example is Vancouver is trash because they didnt trade dalton or something like that
copium is essentially making up excuses for your fav team losing
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vancouver is trash cause they got rid of the runaway roster 😃
even then i dont think they would be that good
i thnk theyd be midtable
they wouldnt be winning every single game
they’d still be top tier
dive was one of their strengths and look at the current meta
go look at twilight, the dudes one of the best flex supports rn
okay sure who would win between Gritty from Philadelphia Fusion or Vancouver Titans carl
Carl?
I don't think peak titans was nearly as impressive as we thought by modern comparison and hindsight but at the time they were great
they tossed the original Titans
the original titan players are now all on different teams and they are all still good
Yea but imagine og titans in summer showdown that year
Haksal genji
except for the main tank
Easily win
Only twilight, slime. And seominsoo got on new teams
Like genuinely though other than twilight name a Vancouver titan who had more than mediocre at best performances post break up
Jjannu stitch
I mean playoffs I guess but justice were ass season 3
They didn't join until very late
But people forgot about what they were doing in playoffs
Since decay was the main character
People forgot stitch was matching ans on ashe all series long
But everyone always says he's washed and meh 
jjannu was doing nasty things on sig and hog too
Ark was on mercy the whole time in playoffs
and did pretty well
It sucks that all of justice gets completely overshadowed that playoff run by decay
When legit the entire team was fucking popping
I noticed stitch and the roadhog play was good not much of the other players at the time
I remember stitch though because flick hitscan is my favorite part of owl

we need aimgod back
look at this unit
get him on nyxl and have him and jjonak perma start
How big is his mousepad
Ah
Copium: Hunters
Hopium: Shock
Hypium: Gladiators
This game died when OWL went to YouTube
true, youtube killed overwatch
bruh
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what a absolute chad
Jjanus hog had an argument to be made as #1 hog
last year the best hog player wasnt even an off tank 
Yeah, god I miss Agilities 
he's not dead
I meant I miss him playing professionally
How good was he during ss
he was not in the summer showdown.
daan is the best hog
If Shock wins tomorrow I expect apology letters in my DMs
If shock wins tomorrow I will personally build you an apology in Minecraft.
build me in minecraft
If Shock wins I will question how much money was given to the Dragons to sandbag
who
roman
asked
I meant last year
i thought he was benched for erster
Aaron
sans
Linguini
Jokes on you they’re already in Korea
And there’s no sudden hog meta that fucks over multiple good teams
u will lose
poko/hotba 
At least it won’t be a final loss to the Justice for the third season in a row
still bad
Sorry can’t hear you over the VOD of Decay ripping your team into an unresponsive state
1 blocked msg
Paris fan can’t handle reality that Europe is a failed region and that British players are better
Britain left Europe because EU OW is shit
big talk for a oversized fucking rat
Small talk from a miniature gorilla
Kinda funny consider the two best european players arent british
Kevster kaan > Kai fastro
WHO ASKED
Oh yeah I forgot ur the guy who legit jerks off to the thought of kevster
He's not even that good
Its not like He is top 2 on every dps hero he played this season
Thats bait right
thats bait right?
I love u
what hero is kevster top 2 on
Kevster is like mid tier
Statwise i.mean
Mei ofc
Yeah ur also not smart lol
Kevster is beyond cracked
If he was korean or American ppl would dickride him so hard
Well when is he gonna show it because he sure as hell ddidnt show it this year
?
Kevster is only good because he has a good backline and main tank now
He literally won a tourney 😭
Race has nothing to do with my opinions on players ???
And was glads best or second best player every game
Are you legit okay
Kevster is literally only rated for being European
U either have the koreaboos who are still stuck on APEX or the NA 3heads who think nero is S tier
If he was Korean or Chinese he would be seen as mid tier at best
And consider danteh a S tier tracer
I'm legit the biggest EU simp
Thats such a false Statement LMAO
I rate naga onigod and poko so high
Ur a Paris simp
Is he the third best European fdps in owl? Yes but where is the competition?
WE DID IT BOYS WE HAVE FOUND THE WORST TAKE OF THE YEAR 2021
2nd Naga 1st EQO
EQO first 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
what has eqo done this year besides being good on pharah and Solid on echo
He is worse on every hero they share except pharah and maybe genji
Popped the fuck off on sombra and tracer when they aren’t even in his traditional hero pool
are you saying that kevster is underrated because he is european?
And been a top tier genji when he busted it out occasionally
so that's exactly what you mean
That is exactly what memeicus just said
There are Loads of intelligent ppl who knows hes cracked
Just a bunch of stupid mfs like luigi
And you’re not one of them 😎
@ me when kevster does something worthwhile in a game
kevster is a good player but hes not top 2 fdps sorry
Watcj any game from his PoV
Thats fair
Top 5000 fdps is where I rate Kevster
I have him as third/fourth depending on how important u consider tracer
dont worry im subbing in for kevster since glads are gonna lose before GF
Id say in tracer heavy metas hes top 3 outside of that id take fleta over him
And for 5th either sp9rk1e or yaki
Teru > Kevster
well
💯
maybe we will find out who the better tracer is in the head to head this weekend
Hotba vs Kevster tracer
statswise LIP is the best tracer btw 
Wouldnt be surprised if fleta performs better on tracer
if fusion wins i will drink and not stop drinking
he played most of 2020 on the tracer
Time to get a tab at your local pub
Yeah He was amazing on her
pubs are for virgins
Exactly
vodka at home with the boys
pubs are for losers who need social interaction to survive
real gamers dont need "outside"
???
The only GF I care about is the Overwatch League Season 4 2021 Grand Finals
yeah fuck her
i will
Luigi onlyfans when?
cant. onlyfans does not allow NSFL content
I wanna c a Luigi facereveal
I wanna c you shut up
are u gonna rate me lower cause im not korean or american???
yes
yes.
koreans are very attractive people
Idk for how long u have been on OWL Discs or some shit like that but that has been a thing since OWL S1
Even OWL players from EU will tell u that EU players get underrated
Idk why ur making such a big drama out of it
Not weird enough to pred Glads winning
Ok?
Maybe EU players are rated lower because the region's best and most successful team after being fully transported to OWL with all their players and analysts went 1-15 this season 
too long not gonna read
Nah it has been that way since pre S1
if eu players are underrated then why hasnt a european team won a championship
Also BH didnt have danne they downgraded w blase who is just not easy to work w
We did tho?
Britring
Probrit
they got sparkr back you know
idk man its their rookie season. hopefully next year will be better for them
you cant really blame the BH's failures on hybrid or blase
blase > kevster
i hate the owl schedule
literally rewiring my sleep schedule so i can watch owl games
Omg so funny wow whole room laughing
dont want to miss a second of content
Watxh next thing u gonna say is "it wasnt a joke 🤓🤓🤓"
i wish i could
have work this weekend
never in my life have i seen a take so wack
Yeah cuz they suck
(last year's paris is basically this year's dallas)
an all EU team would easily clap an all NA one and could compete with or even beat an all CN team 🤷♂️
grand finals at 4 am
Depends for the CN one
earliest game is at 1 am
also I work with my brother so i cant call in sick 
do we even have enough players for an all EU team
I think Leave Shy Jinmu Ga9a Lateyoung Mmonk yveltal is better than Kevster Kai Naga Hadi Vestola Kaan Fastro
is there an EU MT that isnt daan
daan is good tho
wait who are all the EU flex supports
Kaan
oh god
Kaan Skairipa Exorath
All 3 are good Kaan is very good
Also Daan is mediocre at best
ehhh i take eu dps ot and ms
so a european all stars team would be like Hadi/Daan Poko Kevster Shockwave FDgod Kaan
Vestola>Lateyoung? Hmh
lateyoung overrated
Poko is not better than vestola
LMAO NO
memeicus
naga onigod
is cracked
Kai>both lol
SHUT UP NTB I DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR RAKES
kai is EU?...
onigod is hotter
i thought he was canadian
No lol
ig kai
british =/ eu
ehh doesnt matter
u are canadian
average american
no he's right
im norwegian
UK isnt part of EU anymore
i just dont claim brits
Also for someone who doesnt care u seem to get pretty worked up over my opinions luigi
UK is on the continent
no its not
just not european union
dumbass
I mean EQO isnt EU technicaly
i hate u all
yes but we dont want britain
EQO is half colombian
But he played in the EU Region
colombian is not european
no shit
colombia is sa
So ppl consider him EU
You'd never know...
Vut eqo doesnt even need to be considered because Kevster and Naga are better anyways
NA super team would be uhhh
Shit
NA is in shambles rn
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UV isnt owl
dont care
Yes
EU is best
na is the worst major region for owl players
yes EU is a minor region
Real
yeah idk how you think an eu team beats a cn team though
EU is not a worse major Region than NA
like in what meta
it could
In no galaxy
canada has like no players
eu team could beat cn team
CN is china
CN is china you idiot
cn would be what
U bum
not ot
Id take kaan>mmonk tho
Also LiGe when je isnt depressed>vestola
Oh and funnyastro>yveltal
Kevster can keep up w leave and Kai wouldnt get diffed too hard by shy i think
kai and shy are close
But id still take china
the flex support difference is pretty huge
not really
mmonk zen >
One has a good team and a good coach other one has Paris
kaan ana >
CN/EU/ combined team loses to the dragons though 
kaan bap>
Kaan is like genuinly insane
Dudes just forced to go for risky plays because thats the only way Paris win
him with a better mt
Kevster Kai Naga Hadi/Daan Vestola/Alexander Kaan Fastro
Dps and Support diff is way to big for EU
Huge tank diff
not really lol
So big
so true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nero gaming
Also cn slaps eu
10 times out of 1
cause asia includes korea
Continent vs continent
Eu couldn't beat shanghai
neither could CN
i mean the whole of CN superteam is basically CDH except with shy
guxue too for monke
Space to vestola isnt a massive diff and Super off rein/orisa lol
???
super is better at all tanks than daan/hadi
Sure but not by a large margin on ball and Winston
Well neither could na CN maybe
Lige probably better than lateyoung
We don't know about that tho
Wym
But Daan is D+ tier
Since uh LiGe never played a single game in OWL
Daan isnt good
NA + CN + EU vs KR
I agree
Because Spark "coaching" xDDDD
Leave Kevster Ga9a Space Kaan/mmonk Funnyastro
so 50/50
moth vs fastro?
Chinese player to Western team when
idk moth cause hes permabenched by a brig 1trick
Moth doesnt fit that playstyle imo
I would still take shy leave
mmonk > kaan btw
Zen gap bigger than ana gap
Nah kaan Zen still nutty
Cuz mmonk Ana also cracked
Pretty sure the reason lige didn’t play was because of mental health
Mcd bullied him
That was early in the season
And iirc he has said he has recovered but coaching refused to let him play
Damn send link I didn't know at all
Ohh he said it on stream apparently according to comments
Because that exchange didn't really do anything
I mean say anything
bring LiGe to owl plx
Bring OWL cup to Shock plx
<@&397922982632226816>
Thank you
np
pings mod on bringing trophy to shock
he wrote that in every channel
cringe
Boarding my plane to Florida and three 80 year olds are talking about how they’re armed and ready to go down fighting.
Not sure what they’re fighting but they also have to squint real closely at their phones to use them so I bet they’re crack shots with the glock.
Florida man goes down fighting
they're top shooters bro don't underestimate the elderly citizens
Tomorrow will either wreck or stroke my ego
Shock you have to win
I want Memeicus' Minecraft apology letter
minecraft apology letter? Is he gonna DM you a server IP and when you join it's just a chest w/ a signed book?
Dink gets rickrolled
Who are people voting for more, shock or dallas?
they fought in the first omnic crisis
maybe it's torb soldier and rein
Hopefully both
10pm i think
Maybe look at the time on YouTube
That's when it starts for you
Go to the stream
Shock literally gonna get swept
I will expect an apology from you if they win
I won't bother because they will get slapped around
I also expect an apology
Dragons won #infletawebelieve
I don't doubt they'll win but Shock hopium is strong in me

Hello friends
Hello

Only fuel have a slight chance of beating dragons
Literally 80% dragons win and 20% fuel
nah more like 20% justice
Counting down the minutes
Fuck it
Justice wins grand finals
Fuel or if fuel fell off then Glads.
I think Fuel match up better with Dragons than glads but I can also see glads beating fuel in the losers bracket
So it could also be that dragons and fuel avoid each other
The comps Glads play Shanghai can play better
Whilst with Fuel there's also the chance of Fearless just deciding not to lose like last year may melee
Like Dragons very nearly lost JJ
Glads is just shittier shanghai
While fuel can do some surprise shit
Oh yeah let's run sparkle doom and somehow win like who knows
I'll need like 1-2 matches of glads performing well to believe in them
just to make sure they stay the same from countdown cup
i feel like glads have hit their peak and wont perform to the same level they did in cc
or more specifically
shu
but they could still beat fuel
Need tomorrow to happen faster
Hibernate
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are these bots or actual people
bots prolly
Hunters could make a run but something tells me that they’re gonna fall victim to the apac inconsistency
Atlanta gonna boom them
Benbest has the better rein/orisa
Daan has the better ball
idk about winston cuz EU maintanks
shock orange again?
their logo is orange on the thumbnail
All I know is BenBest didn’t perform in trials for Paris and Daan did
And Daan looks good enough for them
Trials are just like scrimbux
I guess they valued daan's communication and ability to play ball more
i bet benbest's ball is good
what fucking brainlet is already waiting in the stream rn
People "Wait" so they get a reminder when it starts
people looking at the countdown go down by the second
me looking at my iq go lower and lower by staying in this chat
cough cough memeicus cough cough
memeicus u can stay with me and cuddle till the finals start
bait i wont believe it
FUCKING WAYYY
not like its gonna change anything
yeah that's true
they have been scrimming with hotba for months
he's like a minor upgrade to hotba at best
letting poko play would just be bad at this point
would for sure be a upgrade if given time to prepare but he gets like no time
scrimming off tank on high ping?
no way
Hotba is already pounding aswell
moral supports
I mean mcgravy said "it made not that much of a difference i just got used to it"
although mcgravy is like hmmm
he said it because hes like
OWL liked the tweet
at the beginning of the season said fielder isnt that good
he said hes good but he wont be like godly "everyone expects him to be like shackles unleashed god but ping doesnt change that much" is what he said
poko could be secret weapon though
maybe he just spent all of his free time in france practicing off-tank
8 am start 11 pm end
i wanna believe
how good is poko sig
maybe new teams next year
with the whole hype around overwatch 2
some new investors might be interested
If we are getting new teams give me a minnesota team
so I can actually root for a team
As a non american, minnesota is the best state
I mean there is a MN CDL team
Franchise leagues really kinda succ for competition
it would be nice if okay my dream scenario
24 teams
okay
every year the bottom 2-4 smt like that
has the chance to get kicked out of the league
and in the off-season
there would be this huge tourney probably double elimination but like each contenders region sends like 2-4 teams and they battle for the spots
Issue with that is t2 teams have so little funding behind them
z
A t2 team would have to abide by the owl rules and house and provided min $50k contracts to all their players
You would have to completely abolish the league and re-do it for that to even work
that's why the league should step up and offer those things and in return = better competition
besides if there's some cinderella team that made it into the league I think there would be some sponsors
as well
You're on more hopium than shock fans rn
atl win owl
shut up marbel
okay kid
No such thing as Shock hopium it’s Shock guarantee’d to WIN IT ALL BABY LETS GO BEAT DEFIANT UPWARDS TREND THREEPEAT TIME BABY
i like how they say defiant was a good game and proof that they are going to win
defiant is like good but middle of the pack
that shouldnt be something to prove that should be a free win
i still dont know either
I think there was some good shock scrimbux according to yiska
so yall could sniff copium on that
Yeah that's cause they have enough T1 orgs to make it work.
also copium = too much falsified hope by fans
also fuck you for stealing my starboard ive been meaning to ask this
If OWL tomorrow opened their doors to any and every org to participate in you'd be lucky for like 1-2 to be successful


