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i mean shit i aint complainin
yeah it's how they treat ice block as an entity
and it's just barely taller than kiriko
so you can block friendly ultimates
thanks blizzard
honestly if they insist on not nerfing the shit out of the % values they could let rein, sigma, brig and monkey stop it with barriers as well.
see here's where we get into the cope territory
they're trying to make less ultimates just
disappear
especially since they take longer to charge now
they aren't doing a great job than since a lot of the cast can be killed/interrupted and lose ult completely
shields can still block shatter and you can still eat grav but the CC changes helped with that
well they're doing okay
on average
hog doesn't just get deleted now (he still does)
and Cole has DR so stunning him now might not even be worth peaking him if you can't guarantee the stun into kill
sigma is funny though
I missed 4 fluxes today and canceled 3
orisa just spears him and it goes poof
also the emp changes specifically targeted how stupid it was sombra just removed lucio beat
now it does that but it's legal
kiriko + ana nullify hog hard
but yeah
bastion can't be stunned I believe
junk is junk
torb genji and those guys are transformation
bastion's primary fire is the biggest issue i have with him. i hate his new alt fire but it does do alot of dmg, and i hate his new ult. but god man his primary just feels so fucking bad
lucio can still be instakilled and just lose it. Mei's can be eaten iirc. Junk tire's killed easily. Suzu voids a bunch of them (and de-stickies tracer iirc). Suzu might as well remove junkerqueen's ult from the game. Defense matrix can still eat a bunch of ults..
but yeah
as long as DM still exists you can just not care about a ton
tire is a skill issue though
if you couldn't kill it easily enough it would be corny!
that is
if immortality field didn't exist
Tire's like 400 now right?
Why does bastion have a battlepass victory pose that isnt in the battlepass
honestly dunno
is it only in his gallery page
yh
oh yea armor's caclulated with the flat 30% now.
an unbubbled zarya i guess as well
wonder if they'll buff brig's ult now that it doesn't give armor
it's in a weird spot
armor rally was mega stupid
bordering on best support ultimate because it just made brig consistently immortal and wasn't hard countered by anti nade like zen was
and it still let her use her kit
rally now is like
ah cool a bit more hp per second nice
I don't think it's terrible as joats showed that character can still be good when she wants to be
but I would see it being hard to get value from
with inspire it's like 45hp/s and a 30% move speed buff which compared to kiriko's ult that does damn near everything you can think of is...
just really sad
and it's not like Brig's OWL pick rate has been that great since joats was decapitated.
Like florida mayhem with their desperation strats on Control running shit like rein, mei, brig or orissa mei brig are the only times she's pulled out aside from desperate attempts to beat up genjis.
it's a meta shift thing
the moment the devs see she's not being played
they'll put on the meeska
mooska
mickey mouse hats
go to Disneyland after playoffs
or before tbh
and add in the 600 hp shield again
lol their innovative way to counter kiriko ult, give brig a 10,000 hp shield so she can tank 10s worth of spam
not even really sure how you'd buff her. Maybe make inspire like 6 or 7 secs instead of 5 and give her 25 more hp?
this aged well
LF a team to play Junkenstein revenge on legendary dm me
wrong chat
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jq without shout
where is the best place to start looking for teams
there’s about 9.5 million shitty teams in servers like r/cowcord
just go there
oh okay thanks
or alternatively have connections and go to top OD/t2/trials
cheers man
how do i get to that
Sigma the best hero
Idk if this goes here but on the overwatch league page it says "Fans who have linked their Battle.net accounts can enjoy matches and earn in-game perks" How do I link my battle.net account. What do i link it to?
Also where do i watch it to get the perks. Do i have to be there in person to get them?
I really like the kiriko skin
you link it
on the website
there is a page somewhere
Lmao
whenever i press login it just restarts the page
i just remembered that the removed the ana "mother knows best" voice line. And was wondering if anyone knew why?
Mummy knows best
Can any skin come in the shop or only at the special time for the skin? As an example anniversary only at anniversary or any time?
probably only during anniversary events
but ig we'll find out once it's around that time
ok
any skin any time
how can i get league tokens?
Watch owl with a linked battle net account to your YouTube account
ok ty
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how do I link my bn acc to yt?
can either go through bn setting or yt settings and use connections
in bn settings there is no connections thing
nvm found it
wait but theres no youtube thing
will it be on twitch?
no
So you are telling me
Roadhog is a ruthless killer with a well-earned reputation for cruelty and wanton destruction. After the Omnic Crisis, government officials gifted the Australian omnium and the surrounding area to the omnics that had nearly destroyed their country, hoping to establish a long-term peace accord
I believe it's not in bn settings
it should be in yt settings
does anyone know why the account merge doesnt work? im in the queue 2200 then i go down to 100 i go out of it to refresh then i go in again to check then im at 2200 again
are in n out burgers really all that? I've never had one
is in n out really that good
also wtf
pizza with extra cheese
dont they have that in Korea
when's the next live thing i can watch for the league tokens btw??
sunday
oh cool thank you
what teams are yall
korean pizza and NA pizza are like a tad different
oh i did not know
For anyone confused about drops
- Make sure your bnet is connected to YT you can do this by pressing the gear and seeing if it's connected
- Encores and match streams will both give you the rewards
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is there a way to watch OWL replay in the game ? like in OW1 ?
overwatch replay viewer exist challenge (hard)
yall know pro player hydron?
yes
thats my friends brother 💀
i used to go to school with him 2 💀
imma see if i can find him in my yearbook.
How do i enter
That’s sick dog
send it to me
alr
I can send it here
bro that's cool
goatdron moving up in the world
thats my pic btw
common hydron W
That’s sick lol
Istanbul wildcats in valo have BraveAF d3ffo and Aslan
I swear they aren't even in t1
ty
How you putting reign above London
Because ATL have been the better team
Lol
atlanta is the better team but they have some great chokes

That was made pre-balance patch
Knowing this glads or shock are first
really
if only dallas had a top tier monkey player
Remember when the Dragons got their first win ever? Good times.
Remember when the justice ended third in NA
Good times
I find it funny they did better with ttuba stitch over decay assassin
Houston outlaws skins are a perfect sleek
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Disagree Londons look better
Even though the green and black are a close second
florida mayhem looking perfectly positioned for the reinhardt, mei, meta that's never gonna come..
I like London more aswell but I'm talking about sleak skin, I'm not talking about skins in general
Which hero cause some look better then others
Ashe
Ok then yeah hou is better
FearFULL is not a top 3 mt this season sadly
you cant be a top 3 mt with the GOAT hanbin on ur team
Hanbins rein is asscheeks
If we go to rein comp then it means chadi rein
cope
london might do a good run
London beat Fusion then go 1-7 afterwards
if London go far I'm satisfied
will hanzo be picked? or r there better options
There are better options
Soujourn mei genji tracer
Actually idk cause they are playing on a new patch
london will be going far
they will be eliminated immediately and flying back to their headquarters
can’t be eliminated immediately when they play against the worst team in the playoffs right away
heesu will randomly be a top 4 tracer
and although will decide to be an A tier sojourn
Honestly just haters you all are as of this point
Who philadelphia?
beat a good team
that is the team they are scheduled to play against 🥰
Also what the fuck is up with apac ending up on the same side of the bracket 
seeding incompetence
Ima just call the rigging while i see it 
All teams are good also we beat reign, a team that is just shy of top 6 in your opinion
When London win the whole thing again I will be seen as a prophet
But londons chances of going deep are like 0% when ur sitting next to shanghai and a potential playoff profit 
And have to play dallas or hangzhou
Basically playing 3-5 of the best dps in the leauge 
(We’ll make it to third knockout and then choke to someone like the fucking defiant)
beating Reign (twice) Outlaws Defiant and Mayhem is considered pretty good
Profit inconsistency and Shanghai with Fleta’s washed up corpse
I cant wait for atlanta to slay every apac team again to end up in grand finals 
Either them, mayhem or spark are going shithouse themselves to the semis somehow
I can’t wait for Atlanta to lose to Seoul then lose to Mayhem in the rematch
But this is playoff profit even with the inconsistency if he starts. Eating ass its gg
Honestly the mayhem just gonna fucking 3-0 both the fuel and dragons before being knocked out in 3-2 C9 to the glads on Nepal
Spark is most subscpetecapble to choking which is why they arent allowed within 10 feet of water
Yeah because playoff Profit really shines bright in season 2 and season 4
reign almost went negative W/L
They first have to play shanghai then potentially play a pissed off zest 
losing to mayhem in tourney twice..
london suck in tourney
Now that i study this bracket i hate it cause its boring 
mayhem clear
taking an average/above average team to map 5 twice in tourney
So how they the better team
Spark beats Shanghai in winston tracer kiriko setting
If they almost when negative
How is tracer the meta? 
Oh god I forgot kirkos in playoffs
feel free to screenshot and come back when your preds get boomed
#sparktheworld
I guess if we are talking new dive with kiriko winston and what not its 50/50 either shanghai hangzhou
Can’t wait to see sparkr v MN3 in the Kiriko duel
I dont even know if i wanna make a bracket cause then it gets busted within the first day 
Backbone v Carpe*
SparkR MN3 is the sojourn Duel
Oh yea soujourn is permanent meta 
leaked meta from pros says sojourn tracer/echo is going to be primarily meta
Unless apac comes in with its own meta
If we get rein meta
no way we actually get a rein meta..
Just be London and make it work
How do I keep track of my 7 / 20 win lose in comp
lol facing philly than fuel... even with a rein meta i don't give them good odds.
microsoft excel?
it's literally just excel sheet or notes
It's like when they make things
they think of something
and implement it
and then forget to think about anything past it
"oh you wanna view how many games you need to rank up! we'll put a graphic at the end of each won match!"
then you can't see it anywhere else
does anyone know if you need to actually be there in-person
or can you watch it online
All of the playoffs will be streamed to the OWL youtube channel
and can you earn the rewards?
watching that
like the home and away skins every 3 hours of watching
yes
what do YOU think the meta is going to look like
posts the meta in question
Disappointed teams aren't given the option to post Kiriko OWL skins using other emotes/poses
sad day that seoul will win
with this meta
dallas will NOT win
and Glads will lose to Shock 3-0
Also Shanghai will go 1-2
Seoul beats Philly 4-3 in this meta
false, Shanghai go 0-2 in my bracket
my goat whoru will
knock out fleta
for their game against spark
then moon will send whoru to solitary confinement
and my boy fleta will stink up that lobby
my bracket involves WhoRU following the law like a good citizen
and Dragons losing to Spark twice
genji reaper pharah*
The only who may realistically can champions are Glads (if Reiner doesn't boom) or Seoul
wrong once again
if Reiner booms he has like 3 other voices in his head that can take over
Smurf only has 1
Dallas have some bright moments and others where they flops hard
it's not
name a better monkey
Nah, smurf is much better than Reiner on monke
top 2 vs top 4
someone
not a big gap
smurf #1 reiner #2
okay unless you are a shock fan
not above Poko
you know that reiner
is not an elite monkey
or a glads believer
if tracer echo is meta
im a glads hater
then glads is #fucked
thats why i said if it was meta
glads is fucked
Acting like Happy tracer is worse than Kilo
because happy tracer is mid
my boy striker
on the tracer
has not lost a touch
according to some of my contacts
oh shit yeah the washed up corpse
like HeeSang
does shock or seoul have 2nd pick
sf cock
ty
Fuel
Shock
Glads
Seoul
western bias smh
picking order
?
NA is the better region
lmaoooo
the only apac team is the last 1 to pick
but you see doing well in a mickey mouse meta and one tricking zarya/reaper means they are super good!!11!1
Seoul, Glads, Dallas, Shock
NOO!!!!!
That order
Damn a good nyxl meta can’t wait for them to pound
wrong
cuyo why do you jave
dallaso ver shock
literally none of the characters
in the projected meta
suit dallas players
maybe next year buddy
can’t wait for Flora to retire the leader jersey
Because crusty has been smoking some weird dancing chairs metas
Shy echo is goated right
(fearless is an INNATE disadvantage)
(dallas echo tracer is worse than any other dps line in playoffs)
(fielder wont be a good kiriko)
yes
don't disrespect the goat fielder
Sheesh ALPHAYI shy
Shy AlphaYi double echo meta
he will carry while all of dallas falls
i will.
fielder is NOT it on kiriko
similar to why he is not an elite zen
whos worse spark houston or florida
houston easily
Florida
I wish houston had a competent tank
Houstonable
ok ty
so danteh could just play tracer for them
Florida/Houston, flip a coin
Houston always show up when it matters
like their match against shock
in stage 3
Shock win tournaments when it matters right
Dragging shock till 5 maps
0-3 finals
Surely if Proper is on par to Kevster he should have at least one title to show for his MVP race
shut up
there is NO USE
in bringing up mvp
at this case
Why did alarm get roty with no titles
(Yaki was a rookie that year)
that’s true, it already belongs to Kai
ok.
Flex support gap
No titles with a top team
#notmymvp!
their support line is
top 5
dps line is mid without proper
FiNN Colhuge top 3-5
tank line is above avg without proper
kilo striker is still a tier imo
wait
but striker isn't
Kilo low A tier hs
(tracer)
ZEST is a more deserving candidate but the desk bottoms for NRG payouts
shut up
similar results with an infinitely worse team moment
and also this is LIES
they have much worse results
than Shock
Fastro chorong ansoonjae vindaim yveltal leejaegon chiyo ojee better
“worse region moment” when NA has like 5 teams that are free wins
i know you did not
say ansoonjae
Who the fuck is Ojee?
apac does not have any good teams
(#hottake)
A goat
Seoul Shanghai (genji meta) Spark
none of those in their peaks
could match na peak
lmaooooo
Man said spark but not fusion (gods) 💀💀💀
dallas glads better than any apac in s1
mfw Hangzhou Spark takes Glads to map 5
reign glads shock better than any apac in s2
they lost to philly.
they're not an elite team
they peaked at the right time
Another elite team
dallas better than any apac in s3 and s4
Philly in their best possible meta imaginable
skill issue
top of apac is
#notgood
in a luck based final fight
Shanghai at their peak diffs everyone sadly
dont direspstect my goat
fusin
on
fusipn
@hot onyx Do you want to take over
Sparkcord with me
There have been 3 region split seasons
2 out of the 3 times
NA has been better
33% = never
NA Andy’s arguing why bottom 5 teams being all NA still makes them the better overall region
are the hands big or the cat small
NA will be better next season
as well
if you are unaware
SHD will downgrade on OT
and upgrade on FDPS
meaning they sidegrade
while the contender goats
next year MT meta
💀
kellan will #shocktheworld
Fusion will sign le Clestyn Bliss and Vigilante
they will still get 2nd
you bozo
never use fusion
and place 2nd in both cross region tourneys
Dragons sign Heesang
i have the script
LMAO
say no more.
And Clestyns clone
the format gets undogshitted
MAX*
glads, spark, nyxl, nyxl
Goat*
Fuck off with Max
tourney win order
how many titles does max have already
4
Clestyn has been better for all seasons they have both been in kr
🥶
??? no way you say that
where are clestyn's titles !?
why did he suck DICK this year
on JQ
Clestyn with Unique Krillin vs Max with Vindaim FiNN
i do not care
he is ass on JQ
he was carried by belosrea
Clestyn with Na1st MAX with Heesang
for his ENTIRE OT career....
both are goats on genji reaper
you rpoint?
why is it that MAX played monkey
but clestyn couldnt....
when's na1st back in the league
never
or when he picks up tracer
rather
sadge
so same thing
AVRL said that Belosrea got MTD’d by Kellan vs Talon and that Attack got OTD’d by Clestyn
during the matchup
in 2021
season 1
why is it that every pro player
wants to have MAX
over clestyn
including my goat HeeSang
idk max is the nicest guy in the universe or something
even in 2021
precisely
max is a better leader
shotcaller
AND player
lmao
McGravy is one of the nicest guys in the universe
owl players have never met me
Look where Valiant left him
im very nice
i have never flamed him before
yes but hes not skilled
or as skilled as max
Being a nice enough guy to have pro players enjoy playing with you does not make you the better player
i never said that
Wait until Clestyn doesn’t have Na1st and Unique holding him hostage
but the difference between the two
in terms of player skill
is nonexistent virtually
where the huge difference in personality and comms
will make Max a better fit for Shanghai
seeing as Moon stated their problem was a lack of drive/team personality and comms
since Void was not very vocale
God really gave Clestyn the antisocial nerf just so he wouldn’t be too strong
that is just my opinion however
such cruelty
god didnt imo
he just gave Max the Social buff
since most overwatch pros by default
are anti social
im very social
Ur a beta
can confirm, i have heard your encouragement and popoffs in game
ong
social behaviour
MN3 ZEST
good joke
Predicted reign to win grand finals
Would love to see lip play with heesang or proper
But I don’t think lip wants to go to na
heesang could go to shanghai
yea
it is expected that shanghai will pick up
either one of spectra or heesang
and the other moves to shock
and topdragon to TD
Both flex and play like the same thing
that was never a problem for o2 blast
when they had pelican proper
why should it be a problem for shock
who might have pelicanv2 and proper
they played pelican proper
9 days out of 10
and one of the HS if widow or double hs is meta
Didn’t know about that
They had@kilo then?
Oh
yaki heesu gap
Lol
predicted reign to go out round 1
@static pond think of it this way
I feel like@yaki Ist that good anymore imo
heesang fills the fdps if there are any
and proper then picks whatever else is needed
As least not in his prime
Ya I heard about that
That proper has apparently really good hs
MN3 replaces Kilo in s6
Duality
yeah he got bob before mer1t reached 47% on bob
in their matchup
once
with mer1t only dying 1 more time
no, s6 shock is built around making proper happy
since proper and heesang are friendly rivals
what is the playoffs meta looking like
That crazy I would still like to see heesang on different team I think it be more entertaining
MN3 would make me much happier as a team mate than Kilo
Proper must just not want an easy title
i am sure proper does not feel the same way
having played with kilo
for 2+ years
its just common sense really
emotional attachment exists in the league
yes
I’m curious if pelican will actually leave outlaws
max and someone
For piggy
are both very vocal tank players
god just imagine how good
max someone heesang proper kilo finn bliss viol2t is
in ow1
you have 3 shotcallers on that team
and bliss/finn both 2nd call
I’m sure he will stay https://twitter.com/PELICAN_OW/status/1558873050099159042?s=20&t=HljuaHBBzekW_Snvgkl7BQ
Doge
No you wouldn't imo
no you wouldn't imo
Doge won't be on ping
i would rather have MAX over Doge
agree to disagree
I think
but doge is not a bad player
I would rather have proper
compared to avg
Bold
That piggy drop might actually backfire on outlaws
i meant on monkey
sad
Danteh tracer
rein
no.
Pelican winston
Doges ow 1 orisa
Was god tier
Apparently
Danteh will have a performance
Simmilar to mirror
If he plays dps
He has 0 scrim time
And will be rusty
On it
Just like mirror was
Vs justice
Pelican played main tank for O2 in a Nexus/NEXT tournament when Junbin couldn’t play due to being under 18
and his winston pounded the likes of top main tank players
such as Marve1
and YaHo
And Inhyeok iirc
Danteh tracer will pound Finale then go 1-6
vs Glads and Fusion
get your script here folks, free pickems points
like GiG
Doge on ping outperformed gig
Heesang is better than mn3
“9@
Think of it
Lol
Technically if junkbunk is fine with having a MT
On ping
He could have signed a KR
But he chose a goat
“”9@“
Doge
nothing wrong with this statement
MN3 > Lip???
He is
it is the other way around
??
aspire is lip
Ok
Didt lip diff Kai
but much worse.
not much worse
he is much worse
every hs is worse than Lip
Aspire is not much worse
he obliterated him
Syrus isnt even better than vision
He's good at every character
Everyone should be
She is an easy champ if you have half of a brain
Sadlay individuals like happy and kai dont meet the criteria
mn3 also cant play her
but heesang can....
wonder what that says about mn3 as a player
Its a dishonest hero
that adding sombra to his hero pool alongside sojourn widow ashe cass tracer genji is stretching him too thin
Lip is Lip
Shd will lose hard in playoffs unless lip is on tracer
But fleta soujourn
Might be also very tragic
WhoRU sojourn*
WhoRU hero pool is massive
his tracer is insane
lol
tracer mei reaper pharah
oh
Unless lip is on tracer
unless Lip is on tracer
shut the fuck up sans clestyn isnt making owl
109.82.44.37
i think if shanghai force fleta on echo
they will do fine
@twin bloom is echo still VIABLE
Fleta echo gets hard gapped by ShyphaYi
Imo Bebe has the talent to flex
Better than genji
Probably playable
But not meta
wut?
it doesnt
echo is the only character fleta has played to a good level
los angeles gladiators
irrelevant team (they did not put the correct tank onto junkerqueen in time)
shanghai will play fleta whoru and win
so real
they still lose to Spark with Lip in
i have the script
the toronto 4-0 glads final
? heesang has tracer sombra hanzo genji echo doomfist torb pharah mei ashe yet u dont see him complaining when he picks up sojourn and bends over the UPA dps
script says they go 2-2
colonel sans is not a real one
and mn3 isn't even any good on tracer or genji
3-2 is hardly bending over
Circuit Royale vs Seoul says otherwise
its seoul
his tracer opponent was mf profit
even venom gapped him
he played genji genius
on hitscan he is
and heesang is better on every other character
measuring impact through separate roles is dumb
I gap mn3 on hs
it's not
if mn3 is in a coma
“Finale is better than FunnyAstro because he plays fdps better”
Imbecile
nobody asked you
ask any non fusion delusional supporter
and they will tell you mn3 isnt top 5 hs
Top 5 is solid Lip Fits Happy Kai MN3
shy is > mn3 but okay
shy clears mn0
shy clears mn0
hitscan
Shy ashe is not better
proper clears mn3
shy clears mn0
they go equal minimum
real
we will never know in a fair environment
because shock will go 0-2
(the support gap is the size of Jupiter everytime they went head to head)
the real difference between proper and kevster
is that proper much better on sojourn
but otherwise
0-2blast playoffs incoming
cant tell them apart
ong
kevster hits pulses in grand finals
playing that t3 hero
Proper doesn’t make grand finals
you're stupid
he makes them
if proper doesn't make grand finals
that is all he’s good for
fleta sp9rk1e my 2 goats of tracer metas
HANBIN IS MY MVP
hanbin unironically clears proper on every mvp aspect
I have like 5 mvps and none of them are Proper #real
game winning zoning grav
you wouldn’t understand
Belosrea is worse since the grav still has zoning value
or striker pulse bombing a cart behind him
for 5 seconds
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dog they got a team wipe
I’d say proper whiffing every pulse in grand finals is worse
1 second b4 he threw that shit down
when half of them would’ve won maps
Realest shit

