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pinging cause urgent
you watch on YouTube to receive the drops after being connected
you can't predict playoffs afaik
Thank you 🙂
You cant make a playoffs bracket? Wtfff
does watching the overwatch league on the playoverwatch channel not give the tokens
No only the OWL YT
You don't get any tokens today cause there's no OWL games
@midnight beacon look for a diamond 💎 symbol, with the words connected ( it's between live chat and share I think)
Does watching Challenger cup earn me skins?
no
Half people say yes, half say no, can we just get confirmation
What If you are dumb, how do I know you are right
i haven't been earning owl tokens is that normal?
i have been watching the stream since the beginning basically
have you watched the full 30 ? if not that could be why idk tho
Have you linked your account
because I actually read/understand what I'm talking about
I had a connected symbol on it yesterday so now I have trust issues
So I have to connect google?
For people who are or watch high elo players:
What does high elo Winston players do when enemy picks reaper?
yes
i think it's the streams, it sometimes desyncs
communicate with the team
reaper does not just automatically murder winston on sight
he prevents him from over aggression
Wut, what's wrong with Winston? He's a worse DVA, sure
But not bad, no?
With genji/dive being a thing
Do we know what they will nerf about them yet?
So im a ex ow doom player and im just like wondering how do i play him well
Like i get that i take a little damage with block then punch does alot of stun, slam is for mobility yada yada
But like actually
How do i play him well
Cause i just get blown up ong
Like i cant actually tank
You don't play him he's dog
Watch some guy called Zbra on youtube, god tier doomfist. Eventually doomfist will get buffed so just keep at it
This is not the best channel to get help. You can join the gameplay advice channel in #roles-old
back to the other one
winston is not as bad as you may think
if you don't understand the game
he can beat a clueless zarya
because she just self bubbles and he doesn't care
Winston is the best MT atm
A lot of bozos on gameplay advice lol
rein is better then winston
ok bronze tank player
I have played tank at a range you will never reach
what gold 4
no
ok switch player
don't even own a switch
pat flameknight might be stupid
flameknight is surprisingly right
when it comes to OWL takes
but when it comes to overwatch fundamentals
and hero knowledge
he gaps your silver ass
even though I'm gold? and have been since the last couple of seasons
oh my god
i tried to place bronze
i ended up silver 3 or something
sad
now i dont know if i can queue
bronze more like hell
with my boys
But overwatch is the ones who organises the teams? Why can’t they make it so everyone can play in owl so they don’t need to make a separate event
same reason why randos cant just play in a sports team
like you'll never see rando players
in the NFL
because some just have better skill same with any sports league
So it’s just for people who aren’t great at owl level?
That makes sense, I was told something else
for the rank system if I get 7 wins and 5 loses and I rank up does the lose still count to 20 or it resets?
ayoo???
reset iirc
afaik someone told me that if you get 7 loss before you get 7 thats a derank
this is actually tilting me so hard for no reason

why
are you not able to see the number of games you've played as a certain role
after leaving the screen
am i stupid or something
Yes you are /j
be nice
no he isnt
literally just gold
pat takes is just from a gold player perspective give him a break 😂
can i get overwatch leage tokens from the play overwatch twitch stream'
I'm from a salty gold tank player cause NO ONE PRESS W THEN YELLS AT ME WHEN I DO IT
sounds like a skill issue
not my fault I underastand how to play the game and I have a life
Your sliver😭😭😭
You don’t know how to play the game
And you def don’t have a life
I dont believe you can say you understand the game if youre hardstuck gold
Sit down pat, your hardstuck silver/gold, don’t try to teach masters players lil bro…
again I a) don't play comp on hours on end b) have tweo jobs and school and c) I like having a social life
You don’t have a social life
Is the thing
You also don’t need to play comp hours on ends to climb
ok consle player lmao
go back to playing on your switch or whatever
nah I just don't want to lmao
usually i’d argue being gold puts pat above average people in terms of knowledge but he’s just being a sperg lol
Yeah cuz your shit
gold is avg
last i checked its silver
but w/e
point is that kid is malding
while waiting for his happy meal
1400 buck gaming pc 150 monitor 100 dollar mouse 100 dollar headphones and 150 for the keyboard
hmmm would make sense cause of the massive influx of people
Nah silver/gold is avg, but bro is malding
Send specs
Your def lying
Just type msinfo32 and your specs will pop up
$1900 and still in gold? 
@twilit oriole my computer
i’ve played with a ~$800 rig and i got to gold with it
all that and still gold
all that and still gold
All that and still gold
all that and still gold
wait pat how many frames you get
imagine making fuin of rank lmao
160 on avr
cuz its true lol
Pat how many frames
rank means nothing to the outside world lmao
ur talking shit about masters players while being several tiers below
I wish I could have that many frames
160 with those settings? LMAOOO NAHHH NO WAY WITH A 3060
I don't?
I honestly watch the pros and try to get better from them
and higher ranks from them
💀
Bro has a RTX 3060, 1tb storage, an AMD Ryzen 5, and you only avg 160 frames? No way it’s that low
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pat do you play on max settings?
no
I feel like you went on the internet and just took a ss of a good gaming PC and cropped it LMAOOO
Bc why does it say gaming desktop
Did you build this?
why am I fighting with a kid who is a consle player lmao
also honestly you could analyze the pros for days and years on end and have zero clue on what they mean when they say anything
also rank means shit and once you all start college and start a job you will realize you don't have so much free time as you once did
to close off my argument for this verbal diarrhea hole
u have double my messages despite being here for barely 3 weeks
so to tell others to get a life is just a smidge ironic
dont ya think?
anyway enjoy ur block
I mean I've left the server lmao
I think I found pats gaming pc on Amazon😭
Bro took that pic off the internet
@fathom igloo send your real specs dawg💀😭
Dawg what
You’re actually dickriding LMAOOOOO
Nah I had to prove this guy was lying
That’s not dickriding idiot that’s showing this Patty boy is lying
Ong
Bro I play with 3060 10400f and some shady asf Chinese made ram and I get 200-350
Max settings
Does bro play on a laptop or something
Nah he doesn’t even own the Pc he took it off the internet, bro was scared to show his real specs ig
Even if HP tried THAT hard they can’t mess up a pc that bad bruhh
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
If you bought a ps5 you got scammed
Imho
That is not an OWN IMHO
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Why Tf do I need a pc to play games dawg I already have one for school and shi
If I really want one I’ll build one
Rn I’m chill with what I have
overwatch is a fucking toaster game lol
Ye i don’t need a gaming pc to run it
Well to be fair around 600 you can probably buy a pc that runs more then 140fps
Well 120
Ye but like all my games I already own on PlayStation
Same
I don’t see the need for a pc yet
Its cheaper and not 700$
Imo
Eh if your really only building a pc based around ow sure that’d do
But
That’s a waste
A pc less than 700$ would be good for only ow, but for other high end games it wouldn’t be the best
he's been here for like
a year now
at least
its still rlly funny
to tell people to get a life
if u think its a genuine insult
then ur probably the same person to laugh at your mom jokes
no flame
this reminds me of the several different laptop and desktop setups I've played on when ranking up
it's been a JOURNEY
it took me 36 or so seasons playing on and off
to go from bronze when season 2 came out
to top 500
60 fps was the dream back then 🥲
I have never hit top 500 in any mode
true
lmao
You cant make a playoffs bracket? Wtfff
Do we get the 2022 homestand sprays for going to owl finals event?
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another example of how i’m the best ed user
ex top 200
(i was 3001 sr in team deathmatch season 4)
So like. I've been watching OW League all night and didn't receive a single token.
I watched through Youtube and through the website. My accounts are linked, yes.
Me and baazo are clear
How do I get drops if on YouTube I don’t know how that’s works?
I meant at overwatch
I forgot about jazzy who was actually 4.3
pc ?
big man ntb
🗣
positioning so cracked probably gets loads of bitches
I am in a relationship
checks out
So not anymore eksde
I was watching the Overwatch league game the other day and it said “3 hours, 3 skins” at the 3 hour mark and they said the drops were out if you watched for 3 hours but I didn’t get any?
How do I get drops if on YouTube I don’t know how that’s works?
Bro help me lol ^
thats next week
Go to your battle net account online and in connections connect youtube
in order to get rewards from watching league u need to see it live right? if thats correct when is the next livestream?
I peaked top 50 (open queue )
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I’ll be sending mine in.
I will be mod
And I will finally moderate this channel
I will crack down on all the catboys

you have my vote
Zain
The entire tournament was AMAZING
there wasn’t a single boring match
Losers semis was literally puff ics and it was still cool
i shal have to watch it later
stfu
There was literally every matchup you could have ever wanted
stfu
And there was like 5 games going on at the same time all streamed
It was such a great experience
The only one that didn’t happen was like zain jmook
There was so many sick plays
There some salty leffen moments
There was some hbox popoffs
There was some wizzy icing
There was drunk mango absolutely fucking rolling
There was some iconic caster moments
Swiss pools was amazing
The LCQ was the strength of a major
It was constant action
Easily the best melee event this year
If not ever
And that’s saying something when the big house literally happened a little bit ago
Slug makes ics hype
The king is back beating everyone except mango
Stfu
why
ratio
who are you
just in time for playoffs
Hello mike
i have been talking here daily for like a month but no regular
the mods have forsaken us
who's us
me and memeicus
skill issue
racism issue
it's appalling to me how people never play zarya correctly
the character cannot be
double self bubble
fuck french people
back to keep the peace of esports discussion and make sure arguments don’t get too out of hand
the lovable peacekeeper of our community
Hog should be played more in owl, change my mind
Like on a theoretical level, free kill every 8 seconds
no
play the video game
beat hog
imo he sucks even more because he can't just murder a tank for free now
healing bloat + kiriko ana backlines + zarya and armor changes
widow should be played every match
think about it, 4 instakills in the span of 5 seconds
and can chew through tank health pools easily
trueing
surely there’s no counterplay to the hero that largely invalidates her usage in many scenarios
it's crazy how widow can do what sojourn does but in one second
and her ultimate just stops the push
before it starts
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She’s an honest agent
Defiant is a good, honest .49 team. We play .49 OW goddammit. Salt of the earth, punch the clock, nearly even win/loss ratio OW. We lose a couple, guess what? We'll win a couple, too. But don't get too excited or let it go to your head. No long winning streaks here, no sir. That's hubris
Looking for 4 others who understand this game and the roles they pick to run ranked with
at the point now where if i cant find a team im totally done with this game
Im not playing with Randoms anymore
shock haters are more toxic than shock fans
funny joke
amazing take
I cannot agree more
thank you "proper > benchbin"
Someone ping @keen abyss
He blocked me
@keen abyss
It’s supas costume
@devout path asked me to ping you for this
Objection relevance
Can someone help me find a main
only the thigh highs will be considered because that’s a W blue everything else is not my cup of tea
not a big fan of animals animal themed apparel is not very appealing to me
ok...
alright...
I've learned something, plat console players are brainless but are just better at a tech level
So I make smart play but it doesn't matter cause they aim better, now to figure out how to aim
We need a console owl for me to leech knowledge off of
lmao new owl video has most casters and desk saying fuel are winning
They think zarya is gonna be good oh nonono
even after fuel literally lost to houston on zarya
False
mag choi crong lip decay iris vigilante leejaegon shanghai 2023 trust
Tf is that
that team sounds like a bad dream
most of shanghai retiring, mag good mt, crong could be good ot, decay choi lip great dps line imo, iris vig to cover izayaki imo
like 4 of them are gonna retire pretty sure
why do they think zarya is still gonna be good?
they either missed the leaked patch or are dumb
can u link it pls
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when are the new drops coming out i saw a drop for winston halloween skin and a drop for overwatch league?
did you read the post?
japan does it better, what tf is that
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Will the nexus tracer skin be available this year on overwatch 2?
Which one is that
what the fuck is this video 😭
like
we're going into the patch
where zarya is getting nerfed into the ground
right ... ?
assuming zarya receives massive nerfs and dva gets tuned back slightly
the meta will shift to dva/winston
correct ?
similar to the midseason madness with a more divey style
than a rush style
as dallas has only been good on rush this year
and have crumpled in dive metas ?
also sp9rk1e not being able to play his genji
not to mention them losing to houston
on the mirror
to danteh who is not even a natural zarya player..
idk man
i say i dont like using houston as a benchmark but you can't lose to a team on your signature comp
right before playoffs
people entirely forgot how good glads were in stages 1-2
and even 4
(even though they have not been tested in stage 4 bc all their hard matchups were stage 3)
like to me
it is between seoul and glads
bc dallas have shat the bed on dive
honestly shock will be good too if we're going back to dive
if the luge could consistently play dva that is a big upgrade from MM
seoul just has the best all around roster
S tier in every position besides fdps
and maybe fs
ir1s high a tier at worst though
fits maybe high A as well i havent watched much seoul this year
the meta imo is gonna be something like winston/tracer/sojourn/kiriko/lucioOR other FS
It's why I don't rate dallas super high going into the tourney
Zarya might still be it on control and less vertical maps. Depending on the severity of Dva nerf it might just be a dva meta again.
why'd i just have a plat mercy
i swear mmr in this game
is something
so many equalizers on my team
...
cant go a game w/o some1 that plays like they shouldnt be in the elo
Shock are nerfed by the fact that they will have to play Mickeyy on some maps
i don't notice them that frequently... Wait am i the equalizer 
is kiriko rly gonna be that strong tho
ppl like avast/custa said they spoke to pros and coaches and they've all said she's a bit underwhelming
if zarya's still around i'd imagine bap lucio stays. Otherwise eh.. Mayhem was running ana on winston comps and suzu's super good.
What discord servers do you guys use for scrims?
i have seen otherwise
recently
i know some contenders teams show their scrims occasionally is kiriko being ran?
kiriko lucio has had some play time
interesting which teams/regions?
ive only seen stuff in na
How do people find scrims in overwatch?
don't know if i can post discord invite here. But reddit/r/ Comp overwatch had a discord that people looked for scrims in. Just joined it to check and it still looks active
There's a couple teams from Calling All Heroes tournament that finished yesterday that looked good, Australia's Shimada Showdown will be airing soon if you're looking for more teams who might pick her up
if only there was a team with a high tier winston top 1/2 tracer top na sojourn top 3 lucio and the best FS in the world...
THAT'S MY SF SHOCK BABYYY VIOL2CIO TO THE TOP
what was the level of calling all heroes tournament? It wasn't like an actual contenders event right?
I think her ult and movement is way too good to not use
It's technically and Overwatch League event, but if you're judging it off the fact it's not contenders is kinda cringe
I'm not saying it's as good, but the gameplay is there
not judging the event lol we were discussing contender teams that have been showing scrims on newer patches that have kiriko
Yeah I got no clue if you're asking for VODs, they would be good to watch though
Its a buff
Glads is not this team btw
ofc
it is toronto
finale #1 tracer
global
i know toronto's secret sauce
they will reveal
that heesu
the goat
is actually an elite tracer
and although's best hero is sojourn
and they roll the tourney
Mashallah
How
Reiner is MEDIOCRE on Winston
but American tornado
A mediocre ow 2 winston is a top tier ow 1 monkey
You just are not used
To the change
Yet
Imo
Shut up
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!!lfg
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I’m not much of a gladiators fan or a reiner fan but have you seen his liqupedia shit makes him look GOATED
Spitfire play the most fun comp
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They're fun to watch, been loving it
Anyone think that OWL will expand to Australia?
It really does lmao
I don't think we'll get expansion teams again. Not unless owl improves
Reiner 100% winrate sheeeeeesh
I mean there is already about 10 players that shouldn’t be in the league that made it so I don’t think an expansion team is coming anytime soon
What time do the drops for the 30 hour thingy start, I know its October 30th but I do not know the time
when the event goes live i think
reiner is the definition of mediocrity on da monkey
imo
jazzy is correct
also his resume is 2 stage titles and that’s it
NA contenders counts for nothing 🔥
those players all deserve to be on a team in a 30 team league
also add a draft so that we can see eternal tank annually
Paris Eternal + FiXa Skairipa backline is definitely OWL worthy
yes
I completely agree
skairipa deserves to be a backup on a bad owl team in the 30 team league
fixa would be a starter
everyone on vegas besides maybe krawi and malthel makes owl in 30 team league
Wub moment
I don't think I'll get enough coins, sad
ive been watching harb and cyx since 2016. are they good players to learn from? i know they're good hog players. not sure if they are good in general esp for ranked/competitive ow
They are good to watch to rank up sure
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problem is hog historically sucks
besides the mickey mouse metas where he doesn't
so high level hog play is far and few in between
Super is the best hog player
but like
imo any streamer who has consistently ranked upon the ladder is usually a good influence
Hogyobin
I don't discount people's achievements just because they show it on the internet
if they're there it's for a reason
daan and someone
my kings
goatone
😊 daan ot
If you replaced skairipa with landon
Their would be 0 difference
In results
For both teams
agree besides brig
can we ban everyone from eu
Please
Skai deserves to be in owl imo he is not roolf
Tier
Bad
Just not good
Either
Sadly
under roles get lfg
i cannot click on the roles
He beat alot of good players such as gig aspire mikeyy lukegoat coluge "redacted british FS) vigilante sirmajed
Etc
Etc
Nac counts
Imo
why are the playoff pickems so hard to do
the teams will have 5 days to practice the patch the most people think it will be
They aren’t hard at all
eliminate Fusion out the gate and you’re golden
just as long as you don’t pred something dumb like Shock winning it’s a good pickem
Mayhem win grand finals
not really
Cope
they beat Reign and Defiant in losers but then they have to get 3-0’d by Gladiators
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i dont want to be in the world where fixa wins grand finals
fixa is already roty so why not a champion as wel
well
now that i think about it
as long as shock or ratlanta dont win it everything will be ok
I have shock winning it all
but I did a coinflip because I couldn't decided between them or glads
I do think one of shock/glads/seoul will win
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quite sad
tune into Plat chat
title is "is proper good"
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jesus man
hope Josh is doing okay
Not sure this is the right place to post but I genuinely don't know lol. Recently hit Top 500 and was wondering do I receive the icon at the end of the season? If I fall out of Top 500 do I not get it? I'm confused on that.
^^^^
i am missing it
whoru 🥹
next ow league when?
sunday
?
?
?
#notashockfan
So balance changes are still up in the air.. Dallas Fuel gonna win it all?
they have a higher chance now
although as a dallas fan I do not believe they will win
owl just got the latest balance patch for playoffs
those are the ones with the zarya/sombra/genji/dva nerfs
I don't think fuel will thrive in playoffs
I have glads winning if the leaked patch is true
Has anyone officially confirmed that's the patch for playoffs and not just a test patch that might have been used in playoffs?
no
I remember the leaks being denied than later it being rumored it was a patch pro's were testing. But It's kind of weird for blizz to just sit on a patch if those changes are already set in stone.
?? HANBIN DIFFS
leak challenge be real (hard)
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Monkey is meta
Hanbin still diffs
on mt
on anything
anyone know a fix to why my overwatch 2 crashes?
apparently owl teams only started practicing on playoffs patch today/yesterday??
😱
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Rest in peace
RIP
What happened to lemonkiwi and legday
We haven't seen them for a while
And they sent on the playoff caster roster
man
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In OWL are you allowed your own cross hair. In every clip I see its always the default cross hair?
the stream/vods just show what the observer/cameraman has which is just default in OWL.
T pose
eu server anyone ?
They’re not casting anymore
Any reasons given?
Or they have stopped casting in general
Not sure
yes
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He mostly likely won't play but there is a chance
apparently owl told them that they would be on it and then went back and said they wouldn't be
he wouldnt, just the man fucking her arm more by playing OW 
Personal reasons
You never know
Philly will do Philly things
That one percent chance
philly about to get a sledge hammer if Zest doesnt play
Patiphans journey is just
Pound in the OWWC
Switch to Valorant
Eliminate Champions contenders Envy and become loved by the entire scene
Retire
Joins OWL
Wins two stages
Retires
Returns to VALORANT
Refuses to elabourate.
Wait he is back in Val?
yes
talon esport
Which team
Ah you said it before I could type
I say a clip but I thought it was old
Bruh
Well he should do fine
All Val is holding corners and waiting for someone to peak
Pati legit said he's gonna play games till he breaks his wrist
genji is zoom zoom zoom
while valorant is just hold angle and crouch
far easier on the wrist
might I just say
gigachad
When can I expect all of my skins to be transferred, I've only received like 60% of them
guy is 19
gonna have painful wrists for the next 60-80 years
just to play esports for the next few years
man's banking on the future turning into cyberpunk and having robot hands
do you have to buy tickets to earn rewards?
can I watch the OWL playoffs on twitch?
once they start on the 30th
to earn the owl home and away skins in-game
will it be available as a twitch drop campaign
I could beat that team
Who’s the best owl team rn?
it's hard to say
I can't in good conscience say glads after that sorry performance in stage 3
but it's a toss up between like glads shock fuel dragons seoul
To be fair
Pati and ans both left
Mid tournament or before it
Zarya and junker queen also weret there strongest comps
there is no conceivable way a group of human beings sat down and collectively agreed upon buffing baptiste
like I can't accept the fact that anything other than sentient fungi made a calculated decision to give a character a 100 hp burst under half
that is aoe and requires little thought
on a character
with a role passive that includes passive healing
he got buffed????
well it was the last patch
where they increased his bullet damage by 1
and made it so regen burst does the double under half thing
which is exactly why we are in a zarya meta rn
oic
where teams run at each other and if they play out of position or badly don't worry
they get hit with an immortality field and 160 hp immediately
and nothing dies unless the zarya wills it so
like they actually have to be working in the Mickey mouse clubhouse to come up with this stuff
ball meta for playoffs 😱
it's funny how re-sign and resign are opposites
like I know these people want their new heroes to be played
but why do they always have to fail to make good things the first time around
as if making a mobile character who can just randomly kill things and has immortality the first time wasn't enough
its overwatch
what you expect
(brig)
actual balance?
true and real
and then they made another mobile character who randomly kills things and has immortality
(bap)
but 10x worse than OG brig
imagine making a character so broken that she kills the game entirely
and then they made a HYPERmobile character who actually randomly kills things and has immortality
(kiriko)
mickey mouse clubhouse
kiriko is so bad imho
at least in QP
pat don't do this
it's too late at night
I will not let you set yourself up for this fall
fair enough
suzu is too good
to not be played
although if this bap buff goes thru
dumb as hell
holy shit
what bapt buff
is kiriko op?
In what sense dmg healing being a support
I mean I don't play her and she's pretty easy to beat
including allies saved and effects cleansed
She's not the best support but she's not the worst
i feel like shes pretty balanced rn
maybe just make her suze duration shorter and pop faster
where do you put kiriko though? Lucio Bap looks stupidly good still. If Ana doesn't come back there isn't much to cleanse even if we are going into a winston meta. And if you aren't using suzu for cleanse, suzu vs lamp is an interesting comparison, lamp theoretically can last longer, but has quite a longer CD.
i thought kiriko would be op, but i cant tell if shes actually good cuz ive only bothered to play on my bronze acc w/ friends
i guess monkey doesn't NEED speed boost so kiriko bap? but that doesn't sound right, Lucio ult is too good against multiple ults on key characters.
kiriko can tp and save ppl which ig is her main selling point
and she can peel for other support
a good genji, trace, sombra still kills tho
lucio already does most of that and the only flanker on the map in OWL right now is usually a single genji/tracer/sombra. I think kiriko's good just lucio bap is appearing more and more to be wildly good in OWL and neither are getting nerfs supposedly.
sojourn just op tho
I mean yes and no at times she can be and other times not
She's good in a dive comp with d.va Lucio and tracer
Sojurn's definitely in need of balancing.. She's been passing up every other DPS in pick rate the past 2-3 weeks.
Are you talking OWL wise or regular game play
OWL
a few times on control where teams bust out like sombra tracer are the exceptions otherwise it's basically sojurn+sombra/tracer/genji depending on the map/team.
what makes kiriko so good is her movement and ability to duel
she also has really good single target healing
and her ult is fucking nutty
so do you replace bap or lucio with her?
i'm not too sure, but I think she would be ran with one of those
probably would end up on the map
if monkey's meta i guess i could see teams not prioritizing speed boost as much as when zarya is.
I could honestly see a meta with kiriko bap
I mean before OW2 you saw a crap top of rein d.va
Like for a good year it was those two tanks sometimes Winston
Sure.. was specifically talking about sojurn's pickrate the last few weeks in OWL since the zarya meta has started to spread across almost every team, there's been a lot less double dive DPS and now it's mostly Sojurn+dive.
pat cmon don't do this
alright I'm going to explain to you very simply why this character can be stupid sometimes
ranged healing
cannot be dived if you have half a brain
6 second teleport thats like a Winston leap through walls
wall climb
120 headshot
like 120 headshot has to be the last straw
they are actually playing Russian roulette
who on the dev team said 2 shots from midrange would be okay
because it is bound to happen
I mostly play tank and work on that
at some point
Support is my least played role
probably same guy who made zen.
I'd say you're wrong but 50% discord orb with 3 second fade has gotta be the most short sighted thing in history
that or 600 hp brig shield
aahhhh brig with 600 shield
zen does 120 headshots on discorded targets and his projectile is 20m/s faster.
why does a support
have a shield
with more hp
than some tanks
ljke
did they stop using their brains???
did they actively say
"nah I give up"
that's what they did with tryna balance 6v6
see that's true but consider the following
zen has to discord a target
and the target knows they are discorded
and he has no mobility
it is much harder to walk into a zen setup than it is to play defensively on one
with kiriko it sometimes actually doesn't matter what the setup is
true zen's real 1 shot at long range is spamming chokes with 5 balls
I've played a ton of ranked games this past week
i hope kirikos bonus headshot dmg gets changed, it's just annoying
and without fail if I try to take a duel against someone out of position
Lord forbid they have a kiriko on the enemy team
her teleport THROUGH WALLS with NO animation time or channeling
like who thought that's fine
tp suzu 130hps hahahahahhahahhha I lost the duel
outside of it being a spam tool it honestly does feel fine.
it's a cool ability to use
it's also plain stupid
hey
that reminds me of brig shield
it's fine to be able to teleport to ANYONE THROUGH WALLS with NO CAST TIME on a LOW CD
yea that's fine ig. sure
her entire kit is flawless
was talking about 120 headshots his comment just happened to be a bit fast
ah
oh mb
see sometimes it's
i don't enjoy it, it's annoying. it does zen discord orb headshot dmg with a faster projectile even if it's a "Smaller" hitbox
its obnoxious to me even if it's the least of her issues
I can't even say sometimes
I just think it's a stupid addition to her threat level for no reason
^
it's like
if a kiriko hits you in the head you are suddenly in danger because you are below headshot hp threshold
and the best ones will just 2 tap you
like in a dive scenario or close range fight zen or kiriko throwing out 120 dingers feels fine to me. Just kiriko launching them at chokes from super far ranges and fishing for headshots is obnoxious..
Then she has a PHENOMENAL game changing ult one of the best in all of OW, one of the best utilities in the entire game, great mobility and a get out of jail free card, above average healing
like she has
everything
she just needs a stun and a 600 hp shield lmao
I've just defaulted to playing hog a ton when I have a kiriko
because it's just pure idiocy being able to walk into the enemy team
hook and kill someone
and walk out
Hog may not be a meta hero or top tier but he can still just flatline and dog walk games
killing someone in an instant is still the greatest of all CC
in quickplay hwne you sometimes get put with blatantly new players or people way lower ranks hog is hilarious because you start landing like 70% of your hooks on people who have horrid movement.
u can use him vs zarya but it's very risky. if the zar has any sort of understanding with CD management and a shred of good timing then hog is void
but it's fun to see a zar mald because u keep hooking her when her bubble comes down into focused fire. she can't stand and fight unless she has both bubbles ready or above 60 charge
but unless they give hog truly outrageous buffs or nerf everyone into the ground i can't see him ever being meta in OWL when you only get 1 tank.
and then it just doesn't feel like an ultimate

but like even move speed and attack speed is a lot more broken than people think
path doesn't need to give both tbh
cdr is just a cherry on top that makes it uncontestable
i'd rather CDR + movement speed
if you just delete the cooldown reduction from it entirely it's still a top tier ult..
you essentially can't peak it
movement speed stacked with attackspeed makes it kind of dehabilitating sometimes
very true
it's why mcrightclick goes crazy in there
because aiming suddenly becomes difficult
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especially with the cdr
he just shoots
wraith cancel
shoots
and murders something
imagine cole gun boy just spamming flash in her ult
woah there!
like I tried to think of ways to actually contest her ultimate and the only good way I could come up with is shatter
brig shield bash stun with that CDR.. it would make goats absolutely disgusting
because no one in their right mind is getting hit by Flux in that thing
they just zoom everywhere
grav isn't even as good because they still have boosted attack speed and cds
so zarya can just blow up anyways
You can kinda Dva ult in it to clear it up a bit they'll dodge the ult easily obviousl but you can force them off the path and get delay for a bit.
yeah that's the other option
issue being that dva ult just gets you killed because once again
move speed plus cdr
so they literally just need to sniff you
but at least you clear the path for the
hopefully the ult forces them to not have the movespeed and CDR sinec they're actively dodging. But yeah the area path covers is disgusting.
7? characters who can't just mobility their way out of it
wait nah hog can survive it anyways
💀
so can orisa sig zarya rein doom
JQ and ball typically have to move although ball is basically always fine
Can't wait to see how busted Mauga is gonna be
lucio ult probably. Like honestly it's the only thing i can think of to counter kiriko ult. Or maybe hope your sojurn pops ult and just deletes them quick enough with 1 shots that the enemy can't just demolish your team with 25% attack speed.
and then dva will always be able to get a significant distance away if she just follows the path
because move speed on boosters is cracked
lucio ult is situational
because you can still die to a rein speed swinging
even if it is 10 seconds
rein swing in path is fucking absurd lmao
if he lands a charge you lose a solid portion of your overhealth and take 2 swings in a second
oh shit mei wall.
well yeah technically Mei wall but that requires really good timing
completely forgot that if you wall with a mei when you see the ult expanding it just completely stops at the mei wall drastically cutting down its zone.
given that mei's nowhere near meta outside of lucio+moira deathball it's kind of moot..
like even if it's the base zone the ultimate is still crazy unironically
because your entire team can just stand in it
and throw damage at the enemy team
yup
you essentially still have to disengage because you will lose a neutral fight anyways
Symmetra wall might work as well though again another poo tier character.
sym wall is pretty good at blanket stopping everything anyways
besides rein obviously
one crucial thing that makes the ult even more insane is its interaction with ledges
you can pop the ult on high ground and the fox will run the set distance on low ground
according ot the wiki mei's cyro freeze block can actually stop kitsune rush as well if you just ice block yourself right in front of the fox.
yep
that's weird lmao
although you better pray you have wall
i thought fox would path over it
oh wait
u meant the wall
i thought u meant her self heal
no it's the ice block
they both stop it
wtf

