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burnt dragon
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Fdps?

hot onyx
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that’s like saying Feath5r is a good genji because he gapped Carpe in 2021

cunning patrol
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It was a team diff

twin bloom
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Was far

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Better

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Lol

burnt dragon
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What does fdps mean?

cunning patrol
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Disagree

dreamy cave
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Flex dps

cunning patrol
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Toeonto we’re just far better

burnt dragon
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Ah, ok

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Ty

cunning patrol
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At punishing the genjis

twin bloom
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Ok

hot onyx
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Reinforce thinks otherwise

fathom igloo
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Tor fans won't be quiet

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Till they lose in the playoffs

twin bloom
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At least

cunning patrol
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He did not get paris rifht

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Lol

hot onyx
hot onyx
twin bloom
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Well individuals rated NY

old helm
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Boston just didn’t play very well.

twin bloom
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Highly

cunning patrol
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Jinmu was working zest in the neutral

twin bloom
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And called me crazy

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For saying

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Kellan

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Is mid

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And GNj

cunning patrol
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I did not do that

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Imo

twin bloom
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The "shu is gosu" individual did

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Also called me crazy

cunning patrol
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Lol

twin bloom
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For sayin defiant

hot onyx
twin bloom
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Would be mid

cunning patrol
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Is she not braindead

twin bloom
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And atl would be top 3 NA

hot onyx
twin bloom
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Its sad

next mesa
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who is

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shu is gosu

twin bloom
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ATL cord

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Person

cunning patrol
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Are u unbanned

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Lol

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Why am I still banned

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I am the goat

hot onyx
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You want to go back to Reigncord??

twin bloom
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No i use an alt because "shu is gosu" shittalks me

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On a daily basis

cunning patrol
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I saved this discord

cunning patrol
twin bloom
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Fraudjam

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Is also not smart

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Its sad

cunning patrol
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Disagree

hot onyx
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has scatjam ever made a good take?

cunning patrol
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He is just a troll

hot onyx
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i like trolls

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especially when they try and gaslight people into believing Victoria isn’t a C tier hitscan

cunning patrol
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I never did that

fathom igloo
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Catjam is just forbadkings alt

cunning patrol
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I have SADLY stated

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That he is a C tier goat

hot onyx
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holy shit pat you fucking killed fgk with that roast

fathom igloo
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He'll come after me lmao

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He'll probably reply later tonight

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He just sits waiting for me to talk

next mesa
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victoria

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is a goat

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imo

hot onyx
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he is the goat of below average hitscans

fathom igloo
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Boston got lucky to make play ins imho

next mesa
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fair

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still a goat

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imo

hot onyx
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right up there with Ezhan and Flora

flint flower
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Is there a team in the owl that comes up with fun strats and different team comps or are almost all the matches just mirror comps

twin bloom
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Mayhem sometimes

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Imo

hot onyx
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depends on the meta

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if the meta is flexible some teams will try and force different strategies

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if the meta is JOATS everybody plays JOATS

hot onyx
willow drum
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At least they’re in the playoffs

uncut drum
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oooooooooooooo

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the first match

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og 2018

willow drum
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oooh

twin bloom
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I wholeheartedly expect london to win

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Vs fusion

fathom igloo
tropic herald
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all of the matches are silly matches

next mesa
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SHIT

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dynasty is gonna go against dragons

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well good thing is if they beat them they r winning

tropic herald
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shock are picking dragons

fathom igloo
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Ldn v fusion could be good

devout path
uncut drum
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Feel

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If zest is back might be hard

lapis linden
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why is overwatch league going live again? i thought they already did the stream for today. also will you still be able to get the rewards for watching the stream

nova kestrel
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are the drops active for the challengers cup?

next mesa
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dunno

wide dagger
steep shell
wide dagger
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Really?

steep shell
wide dagger
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I didn’t last time

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Maybe they changed it

steep shell
wide dagger
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Nah

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I believe

steep shell
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Well yeah now they're is a little diamond symbol

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Like it was going mad yesterday, maybe they just added drops to stop people rioting

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Or maybe theyres so random new drop added

wide dagger
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Doesn’t really matter to me tbh

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Not interesting enough for me to watch

lapis linden
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why is overwatch league going live again? i thought they already did the stream for today. also will you still be able to get the rewards for watching the stream

steep shell
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Mod just confirmed points

steep shell
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But still rewards ( reportedly )

steep shell
wide dagger
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Lol

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I main bap and Lucio and I get enough of that from owl

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Currently watching lol worlds rn tho, so not rlly interested in what ow streaming rn

steep shell
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I missed a few, I only started watching lately purely for coins, but I'm kinda starting to get into actually watching, being hard stuck gold makes your wanna become a spunge

wide dagger
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Lol that’s how I felt in league

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Was hardstuck bronze, watched the games to improve, climbed to diamond

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Now I picked up ow2 because it’s free

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Trying to watch how supports play but the observers only watch the tank and dps

steep shell
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Only thing that annoys me one time is how much it jumps around, like I'm trying to watch the dps and it cuts to the opposite teams support

wide dagger
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Yeah I have a hard time keeping track

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It’s really hard to watch for newer players honestly

steep shell
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Chats funny, theyre all arguing cause nobody knows if points or not

wide dagger
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I think if this was on twitch the chat would be discussing the game more

steep shell
wide dagger
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I’m bad

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Ur fine

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Lol

steep shell
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Diamond,,,,,, bad my ass

wide dagger
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That’s diamond in league

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lol

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I’m new to this game

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I can’t aim for shit

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There’s so much vertical aim in this game

steep shell
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I play console

wide dagger
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Same

steep shell
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So pharah dominates

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We can't aim up on console

wide dagger
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Pharahs or anything that moves in the air

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Is annoying

keen abyss
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i'm glad we've been seeing some of lucio genji and sojourn in the calling all heroes cup

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we haven't seen them much in OWL

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especially in the same comp

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so it's nice seeing some diversity

wide dagger
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Those 3 are played in a lot of matches from what I’ve seen

steep shell
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Alot of the time you need to carry in lower elo cause your team does nothing, but since owl is all about teamwork you don't learn much for making up differences

wide dagger
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Support is so aids tho

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I’m literally pulling my hair

lapis linden
steep shell
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Play zen

wide dagger
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Zen is immobile af

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Fun

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But on maps with a bunch of verticality

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I feel like I die easily

steep shell
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You get the damage tho

wide dagger
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I’m finding bap and Lucio really fun tho

steep shell
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If you got a good main healer you can just find a nice spot to pump damage and throw heal orbs to your 5 hp gengi throw

steep shell
wide dagger
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All 3 of them are played a lot

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It’s literally only Lucio bap genji zarya and sojourn

steep shell
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Todays challenger teams are much better

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Which is good

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OHHH

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I'm a regular

steep shell
keen abyss
wide dagger
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It’s getting kind of boring seeing genji just wipe an entire team with ult in owl

keen abyss
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show me one match with lucio genji sojourn

wide dagger
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If u look at the match that was just played

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Boston v TOR

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Both teams are running those 3

keen abyss
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fake teams

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bad teams

wide dagger
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Lol

keen abyss
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below average

steep shell
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No ashe? Trash

vagrant cargo
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Toronto playoffs for the first time in franchise history right ?

steep shell
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@keen abyss @wide dagger

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Both squads got that comp lol

keen abyss
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i disagree

steep shell
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With what

keen abyss
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it's just a niche comp

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it's not actually good

steep shell
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I know I have ass cam quality but you can clearly see

keen abyss
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not the type of comp that could be played for a whole stage

steep shell
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Boring for sure

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It's just a stare off waiting for ult trades

nimble niche
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oh my god

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i dont know if this is worse than goats

steep shell
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?

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Oh defo not

nimble niche
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this is literally metawatch

steep shell
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Yesterday they had a super weird team

keen abyss
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sojourn does not need a nerf though fr fr

steep shell
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Symmetry, doom fish, brig, hangover and lucky

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Wow auto correct is bad

nimble niche
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doom fish

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u know yesterday was national fisting day

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I bet Doom was celebrating

steep shell
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I did not know that

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Did you know I am a fish

nimble niche
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I managed to sniff that out yes

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Also idk if that whore at the wendy's drive through gave me diet root beer

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this aint hittin

steep shell
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What's more effective for owl

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Diet root bear

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Or none diet root bear

nimble niche
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I would rather die than drink diet colas

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who would willingly choose a less tasty version of something

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just say u hate ur life

steep shell
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Pretend to be healthy

nimble niche
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just drink sparkling water at that point

limpid grail
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I think the only reason it's being played in challengers is because kiriko can be such a wildcard in even the slightest bit of disorganized play

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because you pop path and it's actually just a fight win or a disengage if timed well

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the issue that comp struggles with is like

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someone getting blown up and not being able to just insta heal everyone
which once again showcases why bap is crazy post buff

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also hitting Kunai headshots mid fight is unreliable

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the good thing about path compared to matrix is A. you cannot kite that crap because of how large it can be sometimes and how the effect works

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and B. cds obviously

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in a zarya meta, bubble on like 5 seconds plus genji getting faster right clicks is pretty funny

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not to mention double slow orb

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like kiriko doesn't provide the aoe healing of bap which is really important because it allows lenience to exist

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and grav counter

errant night
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there are no drops for this right?

minor fog
keen abyss
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she's mid imo

limpid grail
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^

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limpid grail
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kiriko has this issue which I think is actually a good one going forward

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in that she has a very high skill ceiling in exchange for busted effects
but she also has a fairly solid skill floor

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if you do not hit kunai, a small projectile with a headshot hitbox you're better off playing bap

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if you do hit kunai,

you are still probably better off playing bap that character is stupid

minor fog
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Hmm I agree but I think being able to save teammates from for example dva ults is insane

limpid grail
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that's the misconception
at high levels
heck not even really at the highest level
you won't be getting hit by dva bomb

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suzu is better and worse than field in some ways

minor fog
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True but also like for example genji is 1 hit but has his ult if I use Suzu I could save teammate rather than not (this is just another example)

limpid grail
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invulnerability for even a second basically may look broken on paper but once you learn that it's like bio nade pretty much you start understanding how to exploit it

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I will agree though
it fricks up blade timings as of now

minor fog
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Do you think she will get nerfed? That’s one thing I think will eventually happen

limpid grail
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if she does it'll probably be path

minor fog
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I think that’s balanced tbh maybe add a second to the teammates timers for cool-downs

limpid grail
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just from what I've been dealing with in ranked
I've been sleeping so haven't seen too much of altiora teams in challengers

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but basically the moment you get like anyone who can aim and not be overwhelmed by faster attack speed

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path is a disgusting swing ultimate

minor fog
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They wiped a team bc of the path

limpid grail
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it's basically just a resource doubler and semi refresh

minor fog
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Yeah

limpid grail
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not to mention the move speed buff which makes you impossible to hit with Lucio
and kiriko being able to tp every 3 seconds haha

minor fog
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I think she should be able to tp every 6-7s

limpid grail
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well they do too
that's her current cd

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but anyways yeah long story short

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kiriko doesn't necessarily thrive off mistakes I would say but suzu isn't as stupid annoying as immortality field can be

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but when people learn how to effectively use path they will win fights without combos

minor fog
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Yeah iv seen immortality field be used properly is really strong

limpid grail
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like it does not take a gold player to realize that rein with 3 second fire strikes and faster swing and move speed with 4 second charge is some busted crap

minor fog
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How would you think path would be nerfed I’m interested

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@limpid grail

limpid grail
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reduced or removed cdr

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I think it'll be reduced but let me paint you a picture

minor fog
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I would say reduce it

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Yeah

limpid grail
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they are running Lucio kiriko

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rein sojourn genji

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for sake of argument we'll say mirrors with no ults but path on one side

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kiriko pops path

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the enemy rein cannot swing
he will be obliterated by the increased damage over time he will take from every other character on the team
dropping shield to charge back may get him killed depending on the sightline

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the ally rein gets to swing for free

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he does 85 per swing
and about 3 per second or just under

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the ally rein can use charge
if he lands it, either trade or pin, the enemy rein may die

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the ally rein has fire strike that he can fire through the shield, once again for free, that regens in 3 seconds

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also keeping in mind he has two charges

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if he deals enough damage to the enemy rein he may even build shatter from like 50%+ at this point and without a shield, hitting kiriko wins the team fight

minor fog
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I see rein is kinda busted in her ult

limpid grail
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the only
and when I say only good option
the enemy team has to react to this
is to disengage using a Lucio speed to kite the sight line of path

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or overclock and hope for pickoffs from a middling range
which in this case doesn't exist

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or beat etc but yeah specific situation

minor fog
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Yeah tbh the Lucio should just use the speed to break sight otherwise they could loose

limpid grail
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everything I have mentioned here

has literally involved one singular character

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Reinhardt

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he is not even considered good at the moment

minor fog
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😂

minor fog
limpid grail
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this is ignoring genji
sojourn
Lucio
and kiriko of course
add all of their potential impact to the ultimate and it's just ridiculous

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like visor kiriko can already potentially be a team wipe if it isn't stunned

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or heavy mitigated

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but when people actually get used to the sheer amount of value the ultimate can generate, and start using it at a top level

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you won't need a visor

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you'll literally just need to aim

minor fog
limpid grail
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rein's weaknesses start being exposed the higher up you go but I'd honestly say he's an okay goldstomper

willow drum
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just play zarya

limpid grail
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but yeah

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that

willow drum
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and tell ur supports to healbot you

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cant lose

limpid grail
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lower ranks will shoot bubble even when they don't have to

willow drum
limpid grail
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you play zarya and gottem ggs

willow drum
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so you can get energy either way

limpid grail
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and then people get flustered when they get grav

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so you can chuck it anywhere!

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but yeah point is

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kiriko is not optimized rn and I believe it'll take too long to optimize her for her to be used at the highest level

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even when she does hit that point, bap is still equally stupid in some ways

minor fog
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Yeah true bap is very strong

limpid grail
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I think custa said from suggestions that nah she wasn't common and I can believe it

limpid grail
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she's not necessarily worse bap but she's harder to play than him and generate the same kind of value

common in scrims and pro play

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as she is going to be available for the OWL playoffs

minor fog
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You think she will be used alot in playoffs?

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Or do you think people will get worried they can’t use her to her best so they just use someone else?

limpid grail
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I wish I could analyze but since I have no access to the fabled scrimbux exchange (how pros do in scrimmages and theory crafted compositions) I'm not sure

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i think the zarya nerfs will increase the acceptance of dva into the meta because the boosters damage isn't as large as the bubble changes

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the issue is this character sits in like a hybrid spot at the moment

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projectile dps that is significantly harder to get value from than certain others (zen, lucio)

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effective immortality utility that is only a short cop out (Baptiste, even Ana nade in some situations tbh)

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fight swinging ultimate that rewards good aim with generous positioning and increases ultimate gain (Baptiste, "Mercy", Ana)

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her single target healing is slept on
if you just pre heal targets and get good at using nade when necessary she outputs quite a bit

minor fog
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That true it is really good for healing and tbh everything you said is basically right aswell

limpid grail
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forgot hyper mobility which is just lucio mercy bap moira etc etc but at this point what support doesn't have extra mobility tacked onto them just to be annoying

earnest leaf
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I think she'll be used in the playoffs more than we think

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her ult is too insane

lost thicket
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plus lets say a tank that can feed some ult charge me thinks

agile shuttle
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when are we getting the owl all stars skins?

limpid grail
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see like i'd say it

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because personally i believe the moment we go into a poke meta

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kiriko is just stupid

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sigma is actually insane in rush

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it's why I think teams aren't going to play circuit as much as they used to

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no one is that comfortable on the widow hanzo sojourn comps anymore

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or rather

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zarya rush just made it irrelevant

lost thicket
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zarya rein sigma

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those are the tanks I think will be meta

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ana/bap/zen/brig with a kiriko

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and dps line might be

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idk

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flexible

limpid grail
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i could see rein

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but

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i don't think there's any world in which you field him without lucio

lost thicket
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rein here would be less rush and more damage sponge

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me thinks

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take a lot of damage but get healed while your dps bait some damage

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then have ults

earnest leaf
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sigma won't be meta outside of places like circuit

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he gets ran down way too much

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winston is gonna see a bunch of play with sojourn tracer imo

lost thicket
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protect the tank then use ults on im

limpid grail
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i can only see sig on like

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circuit
i would normally say dorado but dva exists

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he gets run down too easily on hybrids but coluge tried to make it work

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i think he's unironically better on offense for first point caps

tropic herald
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Echo

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Echo

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Echo

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Good hero

earnest leaf
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no sig just gets ran at too easily

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echo is decent

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map dependent though

tropic herald
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echo strong 👍

limpid grail
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me when i get sticky combo'd after evading the dashing genji and jumping monkey

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also i hit top 500 tank PogChimp

earnest leaf
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well the one team that plays echo consistently is mid so idk

limpid grail
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truuuuue

tropic herald
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Speedily is the goat

earnest leaf
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shock plays echo on like two maps

cunning patrol
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Bap is meta

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What patch is owl gonna be on

limpid grail
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kiriko + zarya nerfs

cunning patrol
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Dva meta then

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Lol

lost thicket
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before playoffs/gf start

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who is the best at the individual heroes you think

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like

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proper tracer, kevster genji, coluge sigma, shu ana, smurf ball, hanbin zarya

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etc

cunning patrol
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Weird examples

cloud latch
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hanbin sig better than coluge

cunning patrol
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But okay

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Lip every hs character except widow

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Widow kai

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Hanzo pelican

cloud latch
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pelican mei goated

cunning patrol
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Fake character

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But yes

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He’s the best at hee

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Or ig backbone

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Lol

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Also best zen is VIGILANTE

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Despite common misconception

cloud latch
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crimzgoat

cunning patrol
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Disagree sadlay

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Also #hottake but genji is whoru

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His genji mechanics have been crazy and he’s crazy comfortable on the hero

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Only players I see with arguments to be over him are kev and proper

earnest leaf
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whoru always been a top tier genji

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it was usually whoru or haksal for best genji

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whoru is still goated

forest token
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how is saying whoru #1 genji a hot take

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if sparkle's blades were better he'd be like the only person that could contest whoru for best genji

worn falcon
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Shadowburn better

young bronze
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whoru #1 genji is about as much of a hot take as saying proper is mvp in a owl caster group chat

cinder grotto
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got 50 points from overwatch league youtube

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love it

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i can finally buy skins

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cant wait to get 200

forest token
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#freesdb

balmy wolf
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any tips on better zenyatta aim?

cloud latch
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playing the game

twin bloom
tropic herald
limpid grail
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whorgoat

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OWL casters don't talk about proper challenge (impossible)

fringe zephyr
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Where’s the pro league vods

balmy wolf
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Don’t nerf sombra 💀

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Y’all make her not playable any more tf

cloud latch
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good

balmy wolf
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Sike

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I’m a fucking god with sombra dropped 20-30 kills every game with 0-5 deaths 😹

cloud latch
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I despise people like you

balmy wolf
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I’ve been playing since 2016 bro sombra God

cloud latch
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sombras perma hack me

crisp badge
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@sullen berryi watched the league now in the website and it said it was like tracking my view for drops or smthing in the player but i still didnt get a single token or any type of skin or anything ingame /:

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simple peak
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anyone know why double xp isnt working???

paper totem
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I said this tank player was like space and he thought I was insulting him AFrog AFrog AFrog AFrog

vagrant jacinth
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London v philly gonna be sick

lost thicket
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Philly 3-2, Dragons 3-2, Atlanta 3-1, Houston 3-1

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then gladiators pick Houston, Dallas pick Dragons, Shock picks Fusion and Dynasty fights atlanta

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dallas wins, dynasty lose, shock wins, glads win

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dallas v atlanta and then shock v glads

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atlanta will win and shock will win

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atlanta will win against shock

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shock do lower bracket run

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either they lose to dallas or get to gf

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and thats when the challenge begins

lost thicket
tight wharf
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Does anyone know where to find the dates and times for the YT streams to earn OWL TOKENS?

lost thicket
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I just think atlanta has a chance to beat dallas

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tbh

ancient quarry
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Is there an owl discord

mortal abyss
mortal abyss
keen abyss
keen abyss
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proper hasn’t had a dps partner since midseason madness i don’t see why that will change now

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if it’s a main tank meta glads or seoul win gf

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I don’t see why Winston wouldn’t be the best pick with zar and dva nerfs

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Winston tracer sojourn was mm meta

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keen abyss
keen abyss
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kilo was incredibly mid in summer showdown

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s9mm and kilo have not been performing this stage combined with shock’s coaching issues

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striker is extremely overrated this stage

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like who did he beat paris and uhh

lost thicket
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s9mm is riding the bench ngl can't argue

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kilo when used has been decent on double hitscan with proper

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striker is good

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cc meta is just not shocs

keen abyss
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striker beat paris an injured venom and almost lost to fucking london

lost thicket
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shocks cause sombra

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it's like

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dallas are bad at 2x fs

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but they're good at a lot of other shit

keen abyss
lost thicket
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shock are the same but with sombra

keen abyss
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they have lost 3 sets outside of joats

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joats is an outlier meta

lost thicket
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especially since pati was injured

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if you don’t include joats

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also I just think shock is better then glads when fighting them

keen abyss
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glads have dropped one set since week 4

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MM to shock

lost thicket
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not that shock is a better TEAM just better against them

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cool

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did I ask?

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bro it’s literally a one on one discussion no way you’re pulling out the did i ask

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yeah ok fair I did that just for being a dick

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but seriously

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🤓

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top 4 is dynasty glads shock dallas

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in order me thinks

keen abyss
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yet you have dynasty as the only team losing the initial round

lost thicket
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the top 3 NA is interchangeable

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and no scenario where dynasty makes grands

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lost thicket
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just saying randomly the top 4 not in my order of best to worse

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‘in order me thinks’

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yeah

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I was gonna continue

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and rank them

lost thicket
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I still don’t understand why people forget that glads have been entirely dominant outside of joats

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(a tourney they would’ve come top 2/3 in if pati wasn’t injured)

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their only other bad performance was stage 1

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and that was a top 4 finish which is still very good

keen abyss
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ok bro

keen abyss
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they still haven’t proven they can turn it up when it matters

lost thicket
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who are the top 3 favorites in your op

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next 2 they were integrating a new player

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all while beating put up against the 4 best teams consecutively

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not exactly mid

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just an extremely unfortunate sequence of events

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ans didn't play jou which yeah

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but fuckin hell space was better JQ

keen abyss
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and they make tourney

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they looked really good with space in

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they make a deep run in tourney

lost thicket
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that is true but reiner would get fucked by diy a

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Reiner jq was not it

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imo

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they were both 2-3

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and very close

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if they were that close with ans in

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they win with pati

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pati >> ans

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and sojourn > ashe

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  • they don’t throw oasis with shujourn
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yeah but it was only ever close cause dps line saving them in the clutch, I trust Edison/Hanbin over Pati/Reiner if it comes down to the most important of that comp

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supa lover

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Dallas were not good at the comp yet

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who are the top 3 for winning gf

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meta dependent

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OT meta Dallas glads (cope) seoul/atlanta

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Atlanta could go over glads

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MT meta glads seoul dallas/shock

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if hawk can force doom or orisa I can see atl being top 3 both

lost thicket
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hanbin is a good dva

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he just only ran zarya because no one matches hanbin zarya

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…. besides danteh

lost thicket
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but that is a houston moment

lost thicket
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I have vowed to not use houston as a benchmark

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ever

lost thicket
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based

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tbh

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you are forgetting

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that hanbin was a top dva in 2021

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he played almost exclusively dva

lost thicket
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yeah and piggy was the best sigma in 2021

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and carried sp9rk1e tracer doha and jecse

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also dva was 6v6 in a rush/dive comp

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different style tbh

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hanbin has been top on every single other hero in his pool this year

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top 1 zar top 1 jq top 2-3 sig

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I don’t see why dva is different

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Dallas just had no reason to play dva

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not during MM

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I think meta will be between dva Winston with zarya orisa as alternate comps

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as well as rein and maybe doom

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Is there owl today

keen abyss
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I think if dva and Winston are equal power

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glads vs shock/Dallas/seoul is finals

lost thicket
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everyone I think in the tankrole can be playable

keen abyss
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hog

lost thicket
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I forgot about shanghai

lost thicket
keen abyss
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Genji is nerfed so shanghai is going 1-2 or 0-2

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they have to play fleta

forest token
keen abyss
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they are not making grands

lost thicket
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and fleta was MVP S3 and he's also mid now

forest token
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tbf apac could be much better this stage

keen abyss
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seoul will be good in tourney

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nvm they have profit

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seoul will lose in semis

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LMAO

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I wanna see rematch of either dallas dynasty

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or shock dynasty for gf

forest token
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is that alleged playoffs balance patch confirmed

keen abyss
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idk kilo or s9mm need to hit their stride for shock to make grands

lost thicket
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or glads shock

forest token
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the 27 shruiken one

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and you need to pray that shock were just sandbagging cc

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and dicking around and testing comps

lost thicket
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they're just bad at sombra

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simple as

keen abyss
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sombra wasnt hard meta

lost thicket
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this new meta probably doesn't have sombra

keen abyss
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genji sojourn was the best comp

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forest token
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shock committed to a bad strat and couldn't pivot fast enough

keen abyss
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the best comp was zar genji sojourn..

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shd will lose imo

forest token
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I respect the balls to actually play that over whatever was being played in scrims but it still fucked their stage

willow drum
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They will go 1-2

keen abyss
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Coach moon told me

keen abyss
keen abyss
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keen abyss
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bc genji nerf

willow drum
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Agree

keen abyss
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it is all dependent on whether spark decides to be s tier or f tier

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they are the only team that matches houston in polarity

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maybe even outclassing

lost thicket
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spark dark horse

keen abyss
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because they have much lower lows

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with similar highs

lost thicket
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bro chorong vigilante was such a good backline, aswell as chiyo finn

lost thicket
keen abyss
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was that contenders

lost thicket
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yea

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talon and 02 blast

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proper mer1t vs ado heesang

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kellan v junbin

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cane v f4ze

willow drum
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Chorong vigilante and heesang are

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STAR

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players

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most of them are so good

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I am so sad with kellan bad coaching

keen abyss
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sojourn isn’t nerfed so glads can just play Winston tracer sojourn ana zen/lucio/kiriko/brig

willow drum
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They carried ado kellan and cane

keen abyss
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and shit on everyone

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to 7 maps

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Against a super team

keen abyss
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if there is a dva counterpart then shock Dallas Atlanta can all stand a strong chance

lost thicket
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truly a great fucking match

keen abyss
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Dallas does not have a weak spot this year

willow drum
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They do

keen abyss
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if you say Edison I will make threats

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They would get rolled in shd ball comp

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and also double hs

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And double fs

keen abyss
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is chiyo not a good zen

lost thicket
willow drum
keen abyss
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sp9rk1e being forced off genji would make Dallas weaker

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on second thought

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when glads reign and shock

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dallas and dynasty have both potential to be some of the greatest shit

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or get fucked

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All have dedicated double fs

lost thicket
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esp in a doube fs meta

keen abyss
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I forgot about how good Atlanta double fs is

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vigi uv so good

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if only they had a reliable fdps

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honestly venom kai

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maybe enough

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if tracer sojourn is back in season

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if kai remembers how to play the hero

lost thicket
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venomkai is good for tracer journ but idk if enough

keen abyss
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venom probably does not compete enough with Kevin and propa

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though idk if seoul can win with a tracer meta either

lost thicket
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yeah but he's still solid

keen abyss
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Mickey Mouse fdps

willow drum
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Real

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Profit a goat

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They all say

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play stalk3r go to finals

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play profit wipe in semis

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Tobi doesn’t realize

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stalker fits

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venom kai vs striker proper vs profit fits vs kevster happy

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Gets you in gf

keen abyss
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tobi listening to owl Twitter too much

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needs to start paying attention to the games

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(they almost got full swept by cc spark bc they played profit)

keen abyss
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striker is c tier at best

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venom is solid but not enough firepower

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profit is a fraud

lost thicket
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then where is venom on tracer

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venom a tier tracer

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idk if that’s enough

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if tracer isn’t working he’s sorta stuck too

lost thicket
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Striker had played 3 games of tracer and is still good and beat venom who I consider a A tier tracer

keen abyss
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haven’t we only seen him on tracer and genji

lost thicket
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once

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striker almost made shock lose to london

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and we don’t count paris games imo

lost thicket
lost thicket
rugged arrow
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When is next stream?

keen abyss
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so diffing your injured counterpart and almost losing to a below average team

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does not put you in a tier

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no ‘top team’ has any excuse to go that close with london

lost thicket
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glads lost to houston

keen abyss
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using houston as a benchmark

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lol

lost thicket
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every team can lose in a bad meta

lost thicket
keen abyss
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Dallas and shock lost to houston

lost thicket
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overall they're mid

keen abyss
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compared to other top teams

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they're like top 6 consistently

keen abyss
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I don’t rate houston because they will never follow a proper rating but

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mid is such a fucking insult

lost thicket
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not mid like

keen abyss
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to the team that beat all 3 elite teams in a cycle

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boston mid

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is what I mean

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like they lose to justice one day

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win against dallas the next

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good n bad

keen abyss
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that is why I don’t attach a rating to houston

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they roll a d20 every match

lost thicket
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TRUE

keen abyss
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the higher they roll the better they do

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and they have like a +4 modifier or smth so they never lose to paris

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houston can win 19/19 matchups

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houston can lose 18/19 matchups

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they’re all 50/50

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you can’t rate houston

lost thicket
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alright that's a fair point you're making

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I think every team can have metas that are bad for them so I don't think counting them is valid if every other meta is good unless it's something that shows off this playoffs

keen abyss
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I think kiriko will be niche

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I think she'll be used fairly often

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not hard meta

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but, used

keen abyss
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I take ana lucio

silver cradle
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I've been seeing a lot of Bap+Lucio in OWL

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Like every game I've watched

keen abyss
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that’s with the zar comp

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I think if Winston is top tank again ana will be good

silver cradle
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There are other tanks being played?

keen abyss
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talking post nerfs

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playoffs patch

silver cradle
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Ah

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I would be surprised if we don't see more Winston after the patch

keen abyss
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surely with zar and dva nerfed ..

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Winston ana zen/lucio will surely be top comp again

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and glads will win it all!

grand hearth
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Is there a way to see ur past season OW1 ranks??

eager juniper
minor fog
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Nvm I read it and I understand

golden bear
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Anyone wanna join a 2v2 TDM tournament?

fathom igloo
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It's still possible for tor or FL make a run but unlikely

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bos are out

fathom igloo
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I meant FL

uncut drum
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ah

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maybe

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will be tough

fathom igloo
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I don't know how my brain got those confused

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bro nah im boutta cry, i ordered a 200$ uprising jersey and then they lost 3-0 to defiant 😭

uncut drum
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it is like 50

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or 60

halcyon lynx
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idk its some special ass jersey or something

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but im from boston, the sacrifice had to be made.

uncut drum
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did you buy it of the OWL website

halcyon lynx
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not the OWL website but a related one, i think it was linked on the OWL website

uncut drum
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yeah you got scammed

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they are not over 100 at all

eager juniper
limpid grail
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if it was custom made I get it but also yeesh

fathom igloo
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I want a Carl shirt

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No one will understand it

uncut drum
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it looks good

hot onyx
hazy wave
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me personally i wouldn’t take that

halcyon lynx
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ON. GOD.

rigid cobalt
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Can anyone play with me all characters and skill welcome just trying to chill and win grind SweatyGrxz#1531 on ow2 add me

next mesa
fathom igloo
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I haven't watched that much apac can I get a run down on how all the teams look

golden bear
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Who's up for an elimination tournament / attack mode? Need 8 teams!

tropic herald
uncut drum
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wtf is that name

mild parcel
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When is ranking getting fixed?

silver cradle
# mild parcel When is ranking getting fixed?

"Our most recent patch included a fix that will help you get back to your true rank quickly, and that will be reflected the next time you receive a competitive ranking update. You will receive a boost as you continue playing to help you get up to the correct ranks. Players who haven’t yet placed in competitive won’t experience this issue after the fix goes live."
https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/23865965/overwatch-2-developer-blog-post-launch-updates-on-gameplay-maps-and-competitive/

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Should be fixed already

mild parcel
willow drum
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as lucio

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don't play supportive lucio in low elo games

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if you wanna rank up play carry characters

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whenever the bug gets fixed

silver cradle
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It is fixed

willow drum
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ok so then just play ranked

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and easy characters like zen

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to rank up

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very fast

mild parcel
silver cradle
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Yup, just win games really

silver cradle
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What do you want us to say?

willow drum
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but goodluck I guess

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we have dedicated channels to help

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stats don't tell the whole story!

silver cradle
young fractalBOT
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lapis linden
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will owl be live today or no?

willow drum
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no

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teams are travelling to anaheim

soft charm
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Wait just cuz i live close dont mean i can see em huh lmao

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Nvm

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Thats cool though

plush grail
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They should've done a titans vs Paris rematch today

fathom igloo
twin bloom
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#13 vs #12

steep shell
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Is they're a leauge match coming up?

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Or an encore even?

fathom igloo
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Not till next Sunday

limpid grail
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masters 5 support

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ranking feels so skewed rn

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i'm actually playing decently but not being able to tell what the rating of a game is is really fricking weird

fathom igloo
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I honestly feel like ranked is broken cause I feel really good about games then lose the next one big time

limpid grail
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no human beings did not develop swift step

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jel was right

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this is atrocious

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you cannot punish the character's positioning

simple root
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i am pro player from somalia

worn falcon
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🐐

cunning patrol
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this guys replying to himself

tropic herald
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he can do that

limpid grail
#

🐐

cunning patrol
fathom igloo
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Imagine replying to your own tweet lmao

willow drum
abstract sundial
#

Can someone explain what I'm missing with the OWL Perks? I've watched 5 hours but I only have the Tokens and I'm missing the skins and spray

willow drum
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twilight is him

proud lance
karmic charm
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london sweeps playoffs fr

fathom igloo
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Ldn szn boys

karmic charm
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is zest back for playoffs?

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or still in a cas

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cast

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or have we not had any updates

#

yt

livid saffron
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Will The overwatch league channel that’s is live right now give the owl tokens?

fathom igloo
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No

nimble river
#

I have a question about the league tokens

livid saffron
# fathom igloo No

Why not also do you know if you can Still get them from watching? If so when?

nimble river
#

I watched like 3 hours of the stream last night and I didn’t get anything

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I have my YouTube and battle net connected

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Has anyone else gotten tokens

fathom igloo
livid saffron
abstract sundial
nimble river
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What streams give the tokens then

echo pawn
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What overwatch youtube account do i watch for league tokens?

slim socket
#

just type !drops in chat

echo pawn
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!drops

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Thats did a whole lot

charred arrow
echo pawn
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Then what accout do i watch

charred arrow
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You just have to watch the owl youtube chanel and link your battle net on youtube

echo pawn
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So the stream thats rn will give me tokens

charred arrow
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Not that one, only overwatch league

echo pawn
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Ok whens the next one?

charred arrow
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I don't know soory

willow drum
echo pawn
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I just checked the app

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Playoff begin the 30th

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How many tokens per hour

hasty flame
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5 i think

crisp badge
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am i the only one that is not getting any drops from ow league ? i double checked every requirement and i still dont get a single coin skin spray emote anything

rigid cobalt
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Need people who are good and who are trying to chill and win grind dm me

limpid grail
#

the amount of people not getting drops seems to be crazy

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idk what's going on

echo pawn
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Because the stream that happening rn isnt a owl stream

fathom igloo
harsh valley
#

I'm a Master 4 dps. How do I play Overwatch for money 💰

crisp badge
fathom igloo
limpid grail
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man the irony

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if only

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there was a site that effectively communicated

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what the drops are and when they would be given

fathom igloo
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Ikr

crisp badge
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imagine reading

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i was told to go watch that shit for drops

fathom igloo
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No one is forcing you to lmao

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Can we make an OWL FAQ channel so people can stop asking

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The same stupid questions every 15 mins

crisp badge
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i meant a friend told me u get drops if u watched and the site says drops bla bla with a green light like saying " you are good to go, you are earning drops "

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not that obvious for EVERYONE if you dont go read properly i guess

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also english is not my first language

soft charm
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Altiora fuckin destroyed glade lmao

fathom igloo
#

Ok?

astral epoch
#

I just saw the stream going I’m a little confused what’s going on

keen ice
#

so “calling all heroes” doesn’t give tokens or points for the owl skins then right?

fathom igloo
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Yes

keen ice
#

thank you!

astral epoch
fathom igloo
#

No? Only playoffs next week

astral epoch
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Oh ok

tall sphinx
#

What is the point of the calling all heroes tournament?

young fractalBOT
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limpid grail
#

to be an inclusive tournament because overwatch is dominated by Korea and America too often

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many people in MENA and other regions don't have nearly as many opportunities to play

tough hound
#

Is it bad that i main hanzo

limpid grail
#

I'm not sure

#

do you think maining a character is a bad thing

tough hound
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idk

limpid grail
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well then I don't think maining anyone is bad

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also hanzo can carry games

golden bear
#

Looking for some advice guys! What's the best way to engage a community in cash prize tournaments, leagues, etc?

silver fossil
#

Just had a question, I know OWL had a contract with YouTube to be the main streaming platform back in the day, but that contract has come and gone. With them now streaming on YouTube and Twitch, which platform will we need to watch to collect the skins for the tournament from Oct 30th - Nov 4th?

next mesa
#

when have you seen them streaming on twitch

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lol

silver fossil
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The main overwatch twitch channel is live right now with the Calling All Hero’s Cup.

next mesa
#

thats not OWL

silver fossil
#

So the answer to my question is YouTube.

next mesa
#

yes

silver fossil
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To link the account to the battle.net, for YouTube would that count as Google? Because YouTube isn’t an option for linking accounts.

steep shell
limpid grail
#

so women?

steep shell
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And they/thems

limpid grail
#

inclusive also does mean different races if I'm not mistaken

next mesa
#

this is gender specific

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pretty sure

steep shell
next mesa
#

or else sugarfree can just go in

#

and

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GG!

limpid grail
#

wait are you serious
is it actually

#

I thought it was primarily promoted but not limited to

steep shell
#

What are you saying

limpid grail
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that anyone can participate in calling all heroes

steep shell
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They site said you need to confirm your gender sooo

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Idk

#

I only went on to check if we get drops so I'm not sure