pvp-arena

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-gn-subh-ratri-शुभ-रात्रि-cute-cat-gif-11032705699205391065

[viscid urchin]

Ahhh rest well PvP sensei. I only really needed the opinion for today. I still have a lot of things that need fixing too

[versed mesa]

Yeah absolutely, just meant that rerolling attributes before you have all 3 lines you want, should be avoided, unless you want the atk and ele for example to give you a boost while you try to get the third needed line

[tropic summit]

i don't get this question, every team has got a counter, just look at what their teams do or if they've abusable weaknesses (e.g. a stunnable noah, a single B1 in killable range, slow speed... etc etc)
in the previous matchup you exploited the weakness of a glass cannon and the weakness of a stall against indom

[charred quail]

was asking if you had anymore that came to mind so ic an use those as a reference. I found them in the previous recording cause i used that image as a reference

[tropic summit]

there's plenty that are situational and depending on the teams you're facing

the more you play pvp the more you'll notice them

[oak hatch]

I was sure I wanted to keep ammo, was going for 2 ammo 2 cs, but I saw the blue cs and thought it wouldn’t be too bad to go for 1 ammo 3 cs

[dense kindle]

Hi Rail

-# just felt like saying hi

[versed mesa]

Because you might hit 2 good stats for locking and just need the last one. It is minor, but in the long run can save you some rocks.

[oak hatch]

Maybe I’ll throw a couple rocks at line 3 and if it doesn’t work out then I’ll just roll off the blue cs

Never worked before but maybe

[versed mesa]

It's all rng bs at the end Just have to try and find the best way to mitigate as much as possible

[hot shuttle]

copy that i’ll give it a try

I wanna chuck my phone to the wall so bad. 😭

[gaunt pulsar]

take it as it didnt work

[hot shuttle]

yeah let me send you a video but burst gen 3 wasn’t able to activate

[gaunt pulsar]

wasn't expecting to activate, was expecting anis to 1 on 1, but without fb she seems too bad...
i've tried to make you fb and indom anis before with neon

but also didnt work

[tropic summit]

need to get rid of that lifesteal or have so much dmg that it kills them fast enough

[hot shuttle]

what does fb stand for?

[gaunt pulsar]

full burst

[hot shuttle]

oh, I see

[gaunt pulsar]

extra dmg and activates buffs

[glad meteor]

Tried

Blanc anistt vesti swha biscuit?

[gaunt pulsar]

too fast

i think

swha gonna get indommed or something

or bisc

[glad meteor]

Could. A lot of pre burst dmg with anuss

[hot shuttle]

how is it that changing one character changes so much like wtf

all this dude did was change t-moran to anis and all of a sudden I can’t beat him

[glad meteor]

Because anis op

[tropic summit]

you understimate the cancer that is called anisTT + biscuit

there's a reason those rookie teams are BS

[hot shuttle]

there is that.

[glad meteor]

Once they created vesti. PvP became abysmal to play

From then on. It only got worse

[hot shuttle]

😭

[hot shuttle]

yeah, honestly, I’ve gotta agree with you. I’ve noticed ever since vesti tac got created things got more difficult.

[tropic summit]

what could wrong by adding a defender that has aoe DPS, buffs, can be comboed with biscuit and blanc and has insane burst gen? clown era: starto!

do yourself a favour and don't bother with rookie is the best advise, get your 5 easy wins

same rewards anyway

[hot shuttle]

I wanna chuck all my electronics to the wall so bad.

literally because of this difficulty. it’s taking a toll on me as well mentally.

[tropic summit]

yeah that's very bad and wrong, no need to get mentally bothered by this game, especially rookie

maybe take this chance to detox from that

you don't actually lose a thing by not engaging in rookie, think of it as a daily

[stone heart]

Rookie ?
My own solution is

Ttanis/jackal blanc bisc(sac) vesti swha/helmt

I meet most cancer pattern there too

[glad meteor]

Time to play a different game that respects skill , nikke pvp is a certain torture. Especially when fighting up

[hot shuttle]

yeah, honestly, the thing is the reshuffle completely screwed me over. shifter needs to completely rewrite the shuffling system. it’s extremely bad. i’m the type of guy who hates losing.

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

well you'll never actually "win" in rookie, you can consider winning just getting your 5 easy daily wins and earning max reward that way, final ranks rewards in that game mode don't matter

[grand plaza]

Random question, for attack/fast nuke, Scarlet/Trina is still the best?

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

I’m watching you

[hot shuttle]

yeah rookie @tropic summit @gaunt pulsar what do you think?

[tropic summit]

depends what you facing

2RL privT or 2RL nayuta can be more effective situationally

then there's also 2RL liberalio if enemy team allows

[umbral crown]

are u?

[tropic summit]

dunno may work may not, it's rookie anisTT biscuit you facing

[grand plaza]

I finally dropped Scarlet after 1.5 year and I am trying to find a reason to invest

[tropic summit]

you won't really need scarlet unless it's CA

hell even in CA she's struggling retaining her spot with scar rosanna, scar soda, scar rapunzel

[minor egret]

I never use Scarlet in SPA anymore

[stone heart]

Note biscuit must die from splash as she use the skills

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/nananiji-slam-kabedon-bang-壁ドン-gif-16116927

[hot shuttle]

yeah, that’s fair. honestly rookie has gotten super bad ever since August 21, 2025 when vesti got added

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-pink-hair-11

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-blush-blush-anime-marin-marin-kitagawa-gif-6481444601674119735

[grand plaza]

Sad :(

Gonna use as wallpaper I guess

I am sure I will drop 5 dupes now

[gaunt pulsar]

can try, it's such an ass to predict though, because anis enters b1 really early, shoots all 5, swha hits you too, your vesti might not live and be chosen as indom target right before she is dead, helm going to snipe someone too it's all over the place, but doesn't hurt to try if you dont feel too attached to look good in eyes of your rookie rival

[hot shuttle]

@gaunt pulsar @tropic summit
ok forgetting that for a second. if I could get some suggestion for this part. as you guys know, union reward got added and which cube should I put all my points to?

[hot shuttle]

honestly, i’ve got nothing to lose. I’m gonna try it. I don’t care if it works or not. i’ve kind of given up in a way.

[gaunt pulsar]

resi 13 for next breakpoint, then can work on tempering, depends how good you do in SPA already or if you do CA, it's mainly for extra slots and stall teams

[stone heart]

Because most rokiee use splasher i let biscuit nearly naked run as long as she could survive giving both Shield.
.
.

.

If ITS works it works 😶‍🌫️

[gaunt pulsar]

it might work on your sync not on his 2 teams that works on mine dont work on his, because more invest etc, units live second longer and missindom happens or live not long enough instead

[versed mesa]

I somehow managed to climb to top 3 all on my own, but after the 3rd anniversary shuffle screwed me over, I first came here asking for help. Been stuck here ever since

[versed mesa]

I use her on attack since somehow my opponents always manage to make teams I can just yeet to oblivion with her

[hot shuttle]

really resilience? honestly I thought you were gonna go for the other ones but then to be fair, I’ve seen a video that resilience and bastion are top priorities. yeah after the reshuffle it completely screwed me over before the reshuffle I was sitting at Challenger 2-3 and then some whale showed up and now I’ve got 3 individual who are 56 97 45 who are taking the top three spots. at best I can go for Challenger four if I try hard enough. i’m currently sitting at Challenger six right now. because I’ve given up trying since there’s too many ways to counter the defence team. so championship Arena is out of the question for now. anyways resilience would be best to put my points towards for now?

[hot shuttle]

oh my God, I know how you feel man. literally you’re in the same situation as me.

[minor egret]

Resilience the universal cube

[gaunt pulsar]

2 more ele 2 more slots, perfect place to park

[minor egret]

So the morality of this story is don't ask for help here or you'll be stuck in this channel forever?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/definitely-maybe-romance-comedy-ryan-reynolds-yep-gif-5008341450946414225

[umbral crown]

you are too late to run away

[hot shuttle]

alright i’m a go for that.

[gaunt pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1499636281679020133/G5W7TbsaEAAjSwa.gif

sent me if that team works, but i'm

[hot shuttle]

alright good night bro thanks for all the help and support. u a real one! although for me it’s 5:11 PM here.

[hot shuttle]

will tag u if the other team works later

[rich quail]

kabe

DONNNNNNNNN

[rich quail]

kabe

gyu

DOOOOOOONNNN

https://tenor.com/view/kinnikuman-kinniku-suguru-meat-eating-gyuudon-gif-11796367184717485920

@umbral crown be careful about

https://tenor.com/view/joe-goldberg-gif-27002005

stalker

[umbral crown]

who stalking

[rich quail]

Don’t be part of the peep show

[rich quail]

is stalking

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

all of us

Kara is actually the ceiling cat

the meme is real

https://tenor.com/view/peek-cat-hey-there-hey-hello-gif-17017202

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Our Privaty privacy is being violated

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-scared-holding-breath-terrified-gif-5049853410287167077

[rich quail]

[charred quail]

I reversed engineered the Jackal VestiTU TTAnis Blanc Ada team in the pins

What this team wants to do is jackal link vesti and ada so that both can survive early on to get to indom with vesti and ada as the dps

Made 2 counter cooks for this team: using rosanna to remove indom and early pressure nayuta getting all buffs while indom

Any feedback/critique pls ty

maybe should have also put rosanna in the nayuta team

[cedar sorrel]

My rookie def

[charred quail]

nvm guys. i have reading issues

[late tiger]

t1, i can't even - you have gold in your team and nuke it with a chain munching monkey
t2, rossanna in p1?!?! she has stealth for a few sec, but is completel invalidated from the first RL in p1-p3. the whole idea is to receive that 36% burst fill from a minion dying, but not herself
t3, no real pressure. replace trina with laplaceT

[charred quail]

t1 is for showing what team im countering

[late tiger]

helmT needs charge speed, too

[charred quail]

it's not actually in the team

[late tiger]

so t2 and t3 is your team?

[charred quail]

nikke deck cooking on the spa defense teams in the pins

[charred quail]

yes. the 1st one is the team in the pin

[late tiger]

t1 makes no sense
no one would take jackal burst over anis burst

[charred quail]

i think im causing confusion. im using the spa defense teams in the pins to practice countering against

[late tiger]

i get the 2nd and 3rd team with jackal, but the first one completely wastes anis

t2 will win, but not t3

[charred quail]

the 1st team is the team i am countering

with t2 and t3

[late tiger]

put blanc in p1, swha p2, biscuit p3, rossanna p4, jackal p5

t3 will not survive long enough

t2 will win

but u have to change the order

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret he started

[charred quail]

im not fighting against nobody btw. i ran out of hits earlier on. this is just an exercise to get understand pvp better while i wait for tomorrow's reset

[late tiger]

ye, i get it

[rich quail]

Ok saw that you changed Rosanna to p4

Use tempering cube if you can

If not, use Quantum

[minor egret]

So it begins again

[versed mesa]

ichi, ni, san, ni, ichi. His name is just 1-2-3-2-1

[hidden mortar]

[rich quail]

amazing

that’s the same combination I have for my briefcase

[minor egret]

@hidden mortar That was fast

[hidden mortar]

he never changes his teams lol

[minor egret]

What's in the briefcase?

[rich quail]

confidential documents

[placid bloom]

nuclear launch codes

[rich quail]

and lingerie

[minor egret]

Well that's a kind of security you expect for confidential stuff

[placid bloom]

wym, the point of confidential stuff is for people to know it exists

[rich quail]

If you didn’t know I had confidential information, I would be very upset

[minor egret]

Bro is autopiloting from China with the wackiest gameplan ever. Probably just got out of bed, target us and repeat

[rich quail]

[placid bloom]

"every country must be aware of the existence of my top secret base" - every villain

mark it on your minimap

[rich quail]

[hidden mortar]

most likely lol

[versed mesa]

If it doesn't have the villains face carved to the side, is it even a villain base?

[merry patio]

Newbie question here, how does targetting work for blanc indom? Is it always the lowest hp char in the team? Or is there any way to "control" it?

[minor egret]

The indom is for the lowest hp value yes

You can control it with Jackal link and good positions

Note that Jackal link add another layer of complexity to it. 2 highest atk gets linked with Jackal and your indom target need to be the lowest hp in these 2 (Jackal is defender so she have high base hp)

[merry patio]

All of that is assuming that the two linked characters will have lower hp even when sharing dmg cos they are DPSs?

[minor egret]

Attackers have the lowest base hp of all the classes

[rich quail]

Keep in mind that positioning is important

If you have a vulnerable unit on P5 that is not a dps-type, it can be attacked on purpose in sp.a matches to force indom on that weaker unit, and you will most likely lose

I was able to exploit that on an otherwise difficult arena lineup

[merry patio]

Yup I meant that as it is current hp, you have jackal and two dps linked so obviously jackal wont get indom but you also have another two chars that wont share dmg, so one of them could get the indom right?

[minor egret]

Like let's say you use Jackal Vesti Rumani Blanc Emilia. Vesti and Emilia are linked with Jackal but Emilia have just slightly less hp than Vesti (this is my case), you can try to fix it by giving a lower level cube to Vesti and your highest leveled cube to Emilia. For me it's level 7 tempering on Vesti and level 15 bastion on Emilia

[minor egret]

Yeah they all share the same % hp in the link but what matters is the numbers

[raven plover]

vigor cube

[rich quail]

hoboman knows

THE WAY

[minor egret]

We used vigor on blacksmith coop for top 100 so Siren was the one getting stun and not crown or someone else. Vigor is the way

[merry patio]

Ok I think I get it, I lost a match I always win and was wondering why, I think it's cos I'm rerolling my vesti right now and is getting the indom when she shouldn't

[rich quail]

Who are your linked units?

[minor egret]

If you're not sure you can test it on shooting range and check jackal link buff in the pause menu

[hidden mortar]

helm and snow are most likely linked, given their dupes. BUt the easiest way to check jsut go to shoot- oh nvm grim siad it lol

[minor egret]

Yeah Helm have some cores so you would think she gets it but it's hard to tell the full picture just from that

[merry patio]

Oh, didnt know, thanks, will do

[haughty mortar]

@jagged mesa Gotchu! At least once

[jagged mesa]

i want to try fighting osprey and seeing his teams but you keep taking him down before i get a chance to hit back

[haughty mortar]

☢️ 🍱 🔢

[merry patio]

Indeed helm and swha

[haughty mortar]

I wait for him to take YOU down, so I can take HIM down!

[merry patio]

So there is a high chance for vesti to get hit and get the indom right?

[minor egret]

I'm not sure because she's in position 4

[jagged mesa]

rock paper scissors-ahh

[minor egret]

I would Jackal/SWHA/Vesti/Blanc/Helm for the order but what team are you trying to face?

[merry patio]

Could be a good idea to switch helm for ttanis?

[minor egret]

That works yeah

[rich quail]

It might, because then Anis is b1 dps

[rich quail]

Instead of Jackal burst

but isn’t there reentry?

[merry patio]

I meant switch out helm so anis would be a re-enter B1 won't she?

[versed mesa]

Anis with Jackal is re-entry, unless Jackal is on the left of Anis

[minor egret]

You can try Jackal/lowest hp/Anis/Blanc/highest hp (between swha and vesti)

[merry patio]

Yup, my idea was place jackal first so anis won't burst, will try that thanks!

[minor egret]

Blanc/SWHA/RH/Biscuit/Jackal is probably better

[haughty mortar]

Just pull out the shotgun!

[merry patio]

But lower CP

[versed mesa]

Aslong as not in deficit it's fine

[minor egret]

There's no cp gap between you 2 anyway

[merry patio]

Yup, but my swha, blanc, vesti, helm, jackal team is also my def team

[versed mesa]

If it works it works And Rookie is whatever

[placid bloom]

the most important part of taking over the world is letting everyone know you are planning on taking over the world

[versed mesa]

Naruhodo

[minor egret]

It's time to turn off the computer Drake

[versed mesa]

Tell that to me, it is past 5 am and I have a google meet at 11

[minor egret]

It's too late to be reasonable now

[placid bloom]

a true villain would message everyone and tell them that the meet is delayed for 4 hours

[versed mesa]

Damn it, I only have my villain laugh down but I haven't gone through the rest of the course

[charred quail]

Doesn’t he only change it when you change it? When he yoinks your teams

[hidden mortar]

nah that's someone else. This guy copied one team weeks ago and has jsut never changed them after

bullying target is c5
team thief is c7

[charred quail]

Iirc, the nayuta guy?

[hidden mortar]

yup

[polar valley]

@tropic summit does raven/EVE good for pvp?

[versed mesa]

Neither is good for pvp

[charred quail]

Make him go bald

[hidden mortar]

he probably already is he's spent over 5K gems and we're only 3 days into the season

[raven plover]

[ionic forum]

i need a new team it's been like a year since i updated my SP arena team now can someone help me with attackers and defenders https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMzc5MTM0MTE0OTg4NTIwMzk4Mw==

i can upgrade anyone so that shouldn't be a problem with lvl 1 units

[charred quail]

Maybe his name is the amount of gems he has

[minor egret]

I don't see your nikkes, maybe they're set to private?

[ionic forum]

how do you unprivate it?

[minor egret]

I think it's these settings

[ionic forum]

ok done

[minor egret]

It works

[versed mesa]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1--k01KQT70AZHN4KKHFVE9XNG2FTS

[minor egret]

I'll let someone else do the cooking but wouldn't be a bad idea to overload your Biscuit boots for power padding and Vesti tactical is a strong nuke that is worth building

[ionic forum]

alright getting vesti up

[quartz vortex]

i dont get how this guy fights me and loses

[stone heart]

If not spam attack, prolly cooking.

[unique wagon]

I wish I had the rss to run this as def.

2 RL Lappu lifestealing is gonna be fun

as long as name is not Scarlet and enemy doesnt insta kill, she's gonna outheal

the problem with this team in my experience is strong Moran

so Lappu probably fixes that

wait not XMaiden but Drake/BSoda

Xmaiden variant doesn't reach 2 RL due to Anis's gimmick

I think BSoda is better for countering Moran

[mystic rain]

me and blood talked abt that team last night losing to sg rosa

or just rosa in general

if anis is 2nd highest atk and p1, she procs bisc invul fast that rosa will dispel her invul

but if anis isnt 2nd highest atk, she doesnt get folk lifesteal

wild to see bisc def losing to sg rosa

on another note, open lobby for all send me ur best team to beat this ridiculous team in rookie without running blanc

[unique wagon]

Nero Anis Helm Moran variant?

[mystic rain]

full team

i dont have bay tho

and helm might just die before burst

[torn obsidian]

well depends what you have

Priv wins, Vesti Ada wins, Absolute maybe, some sort of slow comp with Moran Biscuit Anis

if your Scar is strong, Soda Scar prob wins

[placid bloom]

Nero Anis Biscuit Helm Moran

[mystic rain]

no blanc

[torn obsidian]

none of those use Blanc

[mystic rain]

vesti ada what team then

[torn obsidian]

bwo I already gave you the core components

[unique wagon]

that is disgusting

[placid bloom]

I mean it is what I am using to swing into every Noah team I see, they don't have enough damage without a buffing B2

my Anis with 80% dmg reduc and lifesteal and Biscuit stack vs your Anis with just Biscuit stack, gl

[umbral crown]

i can test that tomorrow

i think i have all those units well invested

[placid bloom]

I thought nobody hits you

how you test

[umbral crown]

rookie

mariko has not attacked me in 12 days

[mystic rain]

ding ding ding

[opal steppe]

Can someone help me improve these 3 teams.
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list

[jagged mesa]

now that i had a chance to play around with nero and hit a couple times she's pulling weight

im kind of tempted to spend this UR's rewards on tempering

[placid bloom]

I saw you put Lib in that team, you are still griefing

[jagged mesa]

i tried a couple of different teams between my two accounts

i think the lib was put in before i even got to attack with it

maybe its still there, will check

i figured it makes me a bit faster and gives helm some more heal procs

[placid bloom]

I'm not sure if I'm gonna keep upgrading tempering or if I want to go for destruction

cuz I already have 5 slots which is enough for Nero team

the extra CP is kinda eh

[jagged mesa]

oh you already got it at 8?

[placid bloom]

yeah

[jagged mesa]

i would need another UR cycle to get it to 8

i can do 7 now though

or rather, hopefully after SR

i think im short 3 or so

i wanted to rush bastion to 15 but... realistically i dont really use it

[placid bloom]

I don't spend chips past 13

I will just wait a few years to get to them 15 off SR

[jagged mesa]

im overcapped 6 on resil rn

[placid bloom]

I still use bastion on SG so I split them 13/13 instead of going 15 resi

[swift mango]

[jagged mesa]

i dont bother with manual reload timings so i just end up using resil anyways

but maybe on auto bastion is still better anyways, idk

[placid bloom]

bastion still better even with auto

getting +9-12 ammo on every mag is still better than -.3s reload time

[jagged mesa]

well technically a lower level bastion also outperforms resil with siren on team in my experience

but i havent had to mald to that degree yet

my second account is balanced between the two

[placid bloom]

res is always worse with no other reload buff

it needs other buff to scale good

[jagged mesa]

i mean even with crown, bastion outperforms resil with siren

unless theres another reload buffer on team for 100%

[rich quail]

If you want to be more pvp focused, tempering to lvl 15 is

THE WAY

[quick lake]

da way

[tame vessel]

Da way

[heady peak]

https://tenor.com/view/dis-is-da-wae-this-is-da-wae-this-is-the-way-da-wae-ugandan-knuckles-gif-25797533

[rich quail]

da whey

https://tenor.com/view/zbit-proteina-gif-10354714971634249266

[restive heart]

havent changed my team since last month

anyways still chill at top 6

[crystal flicker]

Waiting strat only valid if your bracket ain't investing PvP and Sync

[tame vessel]

i got to c3

[manic gate]

How to use centi

[crystal flicker]

She just exist in your PvP comp

[manic gate]

What makes her good in pvp?

[crystal flicker]

She help your team burst faster

[manic gate]

Got it; I guess that was a stupid question to ask

[hollow lagoon]

Tall pretty nice blond girl who can fix ur stuff

[crystal flicker]

You see, your team burst when the gauge reach 100%
Centi gave 27.6 after 2x shots, higher than average Nikkes
Higher gen = Faster to burst = You can kill enemy before bursting

[manic gate]

This helps a lot thx

[crystal flicker]

PvP only has 2 playstyle

1. Kill enemies before they burst
2. Tank enemies' nuke and burst after they lose their buffs

[manic gate]

How does the 2 RL, 3RL mechanic work btw?

[hollow lagoon]

What is a rl

[crystal flicker]

It's how long your average Rocket launcher hit enemies

[hollow lagoon]

If you assign number to rl what does it mean

[manic gate]

Why are the numbers below different

[hollow lagoon]

Ask Su

Why cake sizes are different

[crystal flicker]

What below we're talking about

[hollow lagoon]

Cake size it has to be, tis mostly on the lower end

[versed mesa]

Rapid Lunatic

[crystal flicker]

Feet exist

[manic gate]

For example, helm's 2RL is 39.8 while in 3RL is 59.7

[hollow lagoon]

I can be convinced to love feet

[umbral crown]

They invest mostly in sync but not pvp

[hollow lagoon]

The burst gen%of the bar in the time it takes for your units to shoot and land3 rocket launcher shots is 59.7

[quick lake]

1.23 seconds

[manic gate]

Ooo I see

[hollow lagoon]

It gets boring if I have to spell it out

[manic gate]

I got it figured thx all

[crystal flicker]

2RL is 2x shots
39.82 / 2 = 19.91 per shot
19.91 x 3 = 59.73

[hollow lagoon]

When in bed the tallest part is the boobies

[crystal flicker]

As bad as I am, I'm not feet fan sadly

[arctic jewel]

I don't mind

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t comprehend it but I don’t hate it

Feet loving that is

[versed mesa]

I don't get it personally

[crystal flicker]

I'm cooked after this reshuffle, everyone is PvP malder who never won CA

[versed mesa]

My friend though absolutely hates feet, he says he practically gags when he sees em toesies

[crystal flicker]

It's like armpits, the smell, the texture

[hollow lagoon]

I prefer to look the entire leg

[crystal flicker]

The only I can't comprehend is Scat

[hollow lagoon]

I can be convinced to enjoy armpits of certain nikkes

[crystal flicker]

kinda mid

[hollow lagoon]

I think it’s good

[versed mesa]

Before the edit my face was

[hollow lagoon]

I was like man we haz a mean one in the chat boiz

I be scared if he invited me for dinner

[crystal flicker]

I'll consider if she changed her hairstyle

[versed mesa]

People like what they like, but certain things just make me not want to share the same planet with them

[hollow lagoon]

I read that one

[crystal flicker]

I tried, but I cant enjoy that

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t try

As some one who cooks his own meals on the regular

[versed mesa]

Why would you want to

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Curiosity killed the doro

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore-earth-problems-gif-3610178

[crystal flicker]

We never know if we never try

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/running-home-bugs-bunny-jump-hiding-gif-8509983

[versed mesa]

Yeah, what if jumping out of a plane without a parachute is actually fun? Can't know without trying!

[crystal flicker]

I used to avoid cheating, but now it's not that different from vanilla

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

I mean

[crystal flicker]

Someone fell from a plane and survived tho, once in a lifetime experience

[hollow lagoon]

I’m a tentacle consumer

[crystal flicker]

We feel alive the most when we're dancing with the death

[hollow lagoon]

@versed mesa

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[crystal flicker]

It's cool to have that kind of tentacles

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/2m2W.gif

[crystal flicker]

Even better if it can be used to control people

[umbral crown]

Waos

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-smh-shake-my-head-disappointed-upset-gif-4574548

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/mahou-shoujo-ni-akogarete-mahou-shoujo-ni-akogarete-gif-16311723564000044800

[tulip quest]

bro why is this pic not banned

XD

[tropic summit]

neither are good, more like CP pad options

SSS and SS are the units you want, ideally maxed out, S situationally

[arctic jewel]

[river dune]

No wonder I lost she isn't even MLB , and the opponent was Core 2 not max cored

[mystic rain]

why is anchor here? are her buffs actually working in pvp

[tropic summit]

• HP stack teams
• optional B2 if lacking or using noah/bayT elsewhere
• deficit flex B2

@mystic rain

Showcase:
#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

[cedar sorrel]

Also helps that she is just a RL so no feed and avg gen

[polar valley]

Ight

[mystic rain]

i mean....
ur using anis noise helm snow just to beat a vesti no buff with useless noah in the same team

doesnt look convincing or something thats like in the same tier as nero

tbh hp stacking in general doesnt feel good in pvp

anyone running anchor hp stack team in champs?

[tropic summit]

not sure what's your point, you can disagree with the ranking, that was always allowed

point is, you can run her to deny or mitigate damage, because of HP stacking

hence why she's in S tier and not SS or SSS

you can deny scar trina with anchor for example, which saves you using a bay or noah for the other 2 teams

or you can deny indoms and save noah/blanc for another

she's an option, not the optimal one (for pve players)

[stone heart]

low lv CA yes high level no, not optimal as the other 2nd burst

[mystic rain]

point is if i have to use anis helm and snow in the same team just to get anchor to 2RL and hp stack, it is really bad just to beat a very unoptimized vesti indom

[tropic summit]

you don't, that's just an example

you can run moran achorIM helmt trina flex for all it matters

achieves the exact same purpose with less HP stacking

[mystic rain]

for spa like really now u just need blanc and noah and call it a day

[tropic summit]

it will be invest dependant and if enemy is on ada buff or not

[tropic summit]

yeah, tell that to those who don't have either or don't have one of the two

you're assuming like blood for just that smaller % of the community, not the whole

[arctic jewel]

Naah Rail, you have to have the perfect Nikkes day 1

[tropic summit]

they keep forgetting people exist outside their tiny 1%

[mystic rain]

if a new player trying to get into pvp with incomplete roster comes in i think pvp shouldnt be their focus at all

just click auto atp

[arctic jewel]

everyone has to eventually start somewhere, saying that you aren't allowed to play PvP because you don't have top 5 teams is very narrow minded

[mystic rain]

and if anchor is their only available b2 unit that doesnt mean anchor herself is a good unit for pvp

[arctic jewel]

that's not even what Rail said

so if I don't have someone like SWHA, I'm not allowed to push Mother Whale or something?

[stone heart]

alright boys case close even getting specific nikke needs luck, everyone start different

[mystic rain]

why even bring up the argument that "not everyone has x y z units"

initially i was arguing for anchors actual use in pvp based on her mechanics and if hp storage even works

cuz ive seen it before with moran helm trina and for the most part, its just depending on moran doing moran things and hp storage barely does anything in terms of tanking capabilities

its not nearly as crucial of a mechanic in pvp as something like nero dmg reduction stacking

cuz anchor being in the same tier as nero is honestly confusing

[cedar sorrel]

A tier list isnt just about a vacuum it also considers things like return on investment and how easy it to achieve etc

Or at least it usually does

CentiT is ranked S tier in the tier list but that doesnt mean u should actually ever treasure her for her S rank capabilities yknow

I dont think anyone is arguing if nero or centiT is better. Its just that theyre better than the guys in A and worse than the guys in SS

And manchor is certainly better than stuff like maiden and sugar which are in A tier

[minor egret]

Woke up, beta season 31 announced, realize the process failed us

[glad meteor]

[versed mesa]

The guy sniping me has manchor on one of his SP defense teams

[minor egret]

She's filler and can pad power

[hollow lagoon]

You failed us

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-magneto-psylocke-unzip-boobs-gif-12274912

[arctic jewel]

👀 👀 👀 👀

[hollow lagoon]

Spider

[quick lake]

Season 31… means beta never ends

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/gachiakuta-rudo-scared-shocked-o-face-ludo-gif-10200054296008620381

[arctic jewel]

I see someone who controls magnetic fields

[glad meteor]

We need the alpha @tropic summit to save us

[versed mesa]

I have no clue why people thought it would end

[glad meteor]

Surrounded by omegas

[hollow lagoon]

Give me the power to make people burst in their pants

[arctic jewel]

I do like what I see in that gif though ^^

[hollow lagoon]

Can’t save you for much longer, the cult haz him

[glad meteor]

Stop g0oning

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-helm-nikke-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-9863113475501277000

[versed mesa]

Eh... Seen better

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

[glad meteor]

Better parodies?

[arctic jewel]

I prefer this

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/gov-nikke-helm-kimono-helm-nikke-gov-nikke-helm-nikke-gif-8435078304331634369

[versed mesa]

If I shared what I prefer I would be yeeted to the sun

[glad meteor]

Something something icarus

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-nikke-helm-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-8334186728823707982

[glad meteor]

Submissive look

[arctic jewel]

We need to be very careful what we post here xD

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-yeah-im-gonna-pass-pass-hard-pass-decline-gif-27230762

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-nikke-helm-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-8606732880887663742

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

[versed mesa]

It looks like she is saying "wa wa wa"

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/boobs-l2d-azur-lane-st-louis-gif-14936705241041807639

[arctic jewel]

"I wuw u"

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

Winter Helm when?

[hollow lagoon]

Bunny helm

[arctic jewel]

Make maid and bunny alts of Helm while at it

[quick lake]

helm festival

[versed mesa]

Oh my sniper has actually logged in while I have been offline

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-genie-right-taught-gif-13861330

[hollow lagoon]

Helm with w@mb force

Wait a minute

[arctic jewel]

[hollow lagoon]

Boiz

Prika is water sniper

We all know watersnipers are scary

Oh wait nvm snow crane was mid

[quick lake]

Like MilkT and HelmT

[hollow lagoon]

Swha

[versed mesa]

I just hope C3 didn't hit him, cause that messes with my tickets

[quick lake]

water means free kill for Anis

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

She looks a little mad. Me like

[versed mesa]

Have any of you had to worry about snipers or is this just my personal heck?

[hollow lagoon]

Slightly annoyed helm is

[versed mesa]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

My alt can only reach stage 6 on kraken yet gets 4-6 rocks per day on average while on main I sometimes get none

Well okay 6 is a bit high, but it just happened!

[hollow lagoon]

I get 0-2

[arctic jewel]

You know what I got?

[hollow lagoon]

8?

[arctic jewel]

A swordfish from Helm

[hollow lagoon]

Anyway I got 0 rocks I’m cooked

[hollow lagoon]

Sail fish family, not sure if sword fish

[arctic jewel]

oops, my b

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

Logging in to main, I wonder if the sniper actually changed his defense for once

[tulip quest]

wut u tryin to build?

[hollow lagoon]

Sdoooorororor

[tulip quest]

still not fixed?

4 Ele at least?

[hollow lagoon]

Did you just ask if I have 4 ele?

[tulip quest]

ur not being greedy wanting 12/12 right?

[hollow lagoon]

I have exactly one 4 ele unit in this game

And it’s Mihara

[tulip quest]

bro just how in the world do you even spend ur rocks

[hollow lagoon]

Bro what is sanity

[tulip quest]

im f2p and it's possible u have no excuse

[arctic jewel]

you do realize how many Nikkes there are in this game? xD

it's not easy to get 4 Ele

[tulip quest]

I mean just the important one's

[hollow lagoon]

Shit idk I watch my union mates roll 2 rocks they hit atk+rle, they watch me roll I get Lin 1 hit rate 3x in a row then followed by line 1 charge damage 4 x

[tulip quest]

I don't even bother unsuable Nikke to build

[tulip quest]

SDoro is really important and Zant said he only EVER had 1 4ELE character named MIHARA

only 1 4 ELE how is that possible

[hollow lagoon]

Fk if I know

Ele is Gae anyways

[versed mesa]

I have 4 ele on Scar and Helm I won!

[arctic jewel]

I don't think I have many 4 Ele Nikkes either 🤷‍♂️

[tulip quest]

ayoyoi

[versed mesa]

I also won my spot back from the sniper, he didn't even change team order

[hollow lagoon]

I rolled off a 15% crit damage line on star anise into 19% ele and all I got was 1/12 damage increase

[arctic jewel]

I mean, we are PvP players after all, most of us just have to take whatever we are able to get

[versed mesa]

I dunno what his plan is, or if he is just messing with me just because

[arctic jewel]

just CA, 25 Nikkes, that's a lot of stat lines you need to get

[hollow lagoon]

Who cares about ele, I didn’t build Isabel and arcana, I’m still in top 200 solo raid for egovista on global

[tulip quest]

Anis Ele really good for pvp cause she kills off Water character even in P2 making some comps like Nayuta HelmT if HelmT, P2 or P3 Killable before burst

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[tulip quest]

is how I lose always in SPA Testing and C.A

[hollow lagoon]

Just sync up more and the losing stops in spa

[tulip quest]

DUDE Ur core is insane This is not possible for normal f2p dudes who put's rocks both in pvp and pve

[hollow lagoon]

Ca is easy to solve, recruit people form this channel

[hollow lagoon]

This guy flaunting me his luck

Boiz this is cyber bullying

[tulip quest]

Just normal synch If too high level can't play SPA or even test stuff, like Dude Story mode and PVP is the only thing keeping me from not quitting this game cause I really love both

[arctic jewel]

what's up with this channel today?

[hollow lagoon]

Idk

These people need to praise the Omnissiah

[tulip quest]

isn't C.A just coin toss if both good teams?

[versed mesa]

I asked for help making CA teams and only Rail said anything, and even he just said "go to this other Discord and copy shiet from there"

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

I'll blame it's Monday

[hollow lagoon]

Come to my union discord you can copy all you want

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/trap-its-a-trap-star-wars-admiral-ackbar-gif-5740548

[versed mesa]

What wife though?

[tulip quest]

Bruh

[versed mesa]

I would take the nagging wife over no wife

[arctic jewel]

I dunno, this pic goes super hard though

[tulip quest]

I'm not sure if ur kidding but I only prioritize Meta units building them I just think cause you build every Nikke on the list is why ur having rock problems, I don't mind that tho it's fun for sure

[versed mesa]

I toss rocks in random directions, which is why even though I'm day 1 player my success in stuff is all over the place

[tulip quest]

yea just choose some stuff u really like, you will find success in some and fail in some but mostly get ur goal

[hollow lagoon]

Imagine building ever nikke

[versed mesa]

Electric and Wind is usually no problem for me, Iron I do pretty well in since everyone suffers there since the iron units are so scuffed in general

[tulip quest]

that's normal my Iron sucks a lot

and Electric too if not for Anis and Neon

saving that ELE

[hollow lagoon]

Anyways 2 ele is great 3 ele is pushing it 4 ele is kinda weird

[arctic jewel]

it's OK, I personally think it's a hard task to build basically any Nikke, but if you have nice luck, then good for you 👍

[versed mesa]

My fire is actually the worst of the bunch. I'm trying to finally fix my Rapi and Mihara to actually make fire work for me

[tulip quest]

WUt was deleted?

[versed mesa]

Scam

[tulip quest]

was drinking water

[hollow lagoon]

Union raid wise rapi is not important for fire anyway

[tulip quest]

oh I guess he got discord heck also

[arctic jewel]

don't worry, if you ever see that again, don't EVER take it seriously

[tulip quest]

bro my account put same stuff here and was banned from talking XD

[tulip quest]

I'm not sure sometimes if ur serious or kidding

[arctic jewel]

rip

[hollow lagoon]

You would know if you play this game a lot

[tulip quest]

I got scolded a lot for not using rapi in Fire Union XD

[hollow lagoon]

Then ur union people are low in the brain sauce department, its normal

[tulip quest]

HACKER got nothing tho this discord account has no Nitro even a single dime to steal from

[hollow lagoon]

It’s good to have her in there sure but efficiency wise she’s b1

[tulip quest]

was just annoyed not really that mad

[versed mesa]

I'm gonna be honest, Zant is like 50/50. Sometimes he gives really good advice, other times he just jokes around, even when someone is asking a genuine question. It is a bit jarring but you get used to it.

[tulip quest]

hahahaha well he is a witch doctor I guess?

He runs a Cult Union

[hollow lagoon]

Tell me how necessary rapi is then

[versed mesa]

I had a classmate like him at one point. It gets annoying if you have to do a group project but that mofo would not concentrate at all...

[arctic jewel]

Doesn't that make Zant more human though? xD

and fun to be around?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-5275984653907547388

[arctic jewel]

but what do I know? I'm part of the cult now :3

[hollow lagoon]

You can put her in iron and you lose like what less than 5% of damage in fire?

Oh booo hooooooooo

[tulip quest]

hahaha as long as ur having fun no problem

[versed mesa]

Well I was thinking about SR, I just test Rapi in both comps for UR and just pick the one she did more damage in

[hollow lagoon]

What if you need to hit iron and fire at same time then

[versed mesa]

Read my previous message again

[hollow lagoon]

Ur thinking about sr

[tulip quest]

choose Iron or Fire to use rapi just don't hit both is the normal rule for our Union

[hollow lagoon]

Not valid for last raid, your union is set in stone, adapt is the name of the game

[versed mesa]

And I usually hit with Wind and Electric since those are my strongest

Then I pick between Iron and Fire based on which I can push more

[arctic jewel]

the day when SU decides to create bosses that swift between weaknesses

[tulip quest]

Yea differs which each Union I don't disagree on that front

[hollow lagoon]

Hitting your strongest if you are the strongest player in the union usually results in your lower union mate suffer

[hollow lagoon]

One of the top union’s guide writer was literally advocating hitting iron and fire last union raid

[sinful iris]

@tropic summit cn whale back at it, bro finally counter the team you gave me after 3 months 😂 Team 3 wins but T1/2 loses even with swapping around, would this be an investment issue? Not sure what changes they made to their comp as its the first time they won, including list just in case (got rumani and vestac@9%cs now) https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTU1NTk0MjczMjY3Nzc0MjMwODg%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTU1NTk0MjczMjY3Nzc0MjMwODg%3D

[versed mesa]

Sometimes we don't even kill unless I hit the ones I am strongest again

[hollow lagoon]

Kill what

By the time I get home stage 1 hardmode is dead already

[versed mesa]

UR hm stage 1 bosses

[tulip quest]

RapiRH being Fire and Iron exclusive still hold true, do not hit both fire and iron is what our trusted yenah said, differs per Union manager

[tulip quest]

your prolly talking bout top 1-5 Union which is like Mostly whales only Union that's impossible to emulate and we are mostly F2P with few exceptions

[hollow lagoon]

Still rapi is no longer necessary in fire, if you are not hitting iron you can use her in fire, even then she’s b1, only case where rapi is not b1 in fire is if you free either siren or anis to act as b1

[tulip quest]

I mean like some of them even hit 120b n stuff I can only do 25b 30b max maybe?

[oak hatch]

Does ur blanc team win against his moran

[tulip quest]

man stellar blade still at 40%

sad

[hollow lagoon]

How are you losing when you out sync him

[sinful iris]

as i said, whale

[tulip quest]

maybe the whale started late

[hollow lagoon]

Idk which is the whale the sync says otherwise

Just run mirrior and win it

[sinful iris]

whale starts late, has more investments

[oak hatch]

Guess they don’t need help after all

[tulip quest]

I normally just counter Noah with Blanc

and counter wipe teams with Noah in SPA normally

[tulip quest]

U got SR raid teams ready? wanna trade teams potentially?

[sinful iris]

so blanc team on their noah, noah/lib team on their sanis anistt?

[tulip quest]

lemme try cooking

[oak hatch]

Blanc team should win against Moran as long as jackal outspeeds siren.

Use noise rumani lib helm Noah against their nayuta team @sinful iris

[hollow lagoon]

its just water its as straight forward as it get

take whatever you use for blacksmith solo raid hall and retoool it

[tulip quest]

VS P2 n P3

not sure tho if you will win

hard to be like Rail

[sinful iris]

no emlia rip, does this link work? https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTU1NTk0MjczMjY3Nzc0MjMwODg%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTU1NTk0MjczMjY3Nzc0MjMwODg%3D

[sinful iris]

no worries any advice better than none

[tulip quest]

Put trina instead

[tulip quest]

I'm kinda bad with bla links n stuff sorry

boomer generation

[sinful iris]

np, btw this would take biscuit from p1 tho

[oak hatch]

Swha against vesti, lib against nayuta

[tulip quest]

I normally just ignore 1 comp and attack with 2

[hollow lagoon]

@tulip quest

[tulip quest]

I will share mine after doin somethin a little bit

[hollow lagoon]

its just water it aint too complicated

[cedar sorrel]

This is a win right

[hollow lagoon]

checked cp?

[cedar sorrel]

Yea barely no deficit

[hollow lagoon]

u can win if the 2 water snipers going into your jackal dosnt end your vesti

[cedar sorrel]

Before indom?

[hollow lagoon]

price of knowledge

send it and let us know if you lost gem or not

what's the anis for tho?

[tulip quest]

ya most likely if not deficit

[cedar sorrel]

Projectile buff + teamwide heal

Thouht may help keep tvesti alice

It was pretty close

[hollow lagoon]

biscuit would let you live better

[cedar sorrel]

Cp

[hollow lagoon]

sync up

[cedar sorrel]

No

[hollow lagoon]

doll up jackal

[cedar sorrel]

Okay

[hollow lagoon]

gonna tell me no?

[hollow lagoon]

looks like 50/50

[cedar sorrel]

Also Im dolling my r10 noah right now

My sr10 jackal will come after

[hollow lagoon]

convert dolls

[cedar sorrel]

Its real brokie hours rn

[hollow lagoon]

looks like you get to keep one of each

[cedar sorrel]

I need blue mats tho

I dont wanna spend purple on a blue dool

[hollow lagoon]

sounds like you prefer sync up

[cedar sorrel]

I need to grind campaign some more then

Not actually stuck but I progressed like 2 chapters in 2 days so was tired

[tulip quest]

I'm gonna test out some of your comps

[hollow lagoon]

wasted swha

miranda is strong, but is miranda ttanis strong

[tulip quest]

That's why I said I was gonna test

[versed mesa]

WHAT

[hollow lagoon]

entire cult died for this

[versed mesa]

There is just no way

[hollow lagoon]

holy shit i failed successfully

i didnt even loook

i wanted to fail

but my brain was derp and clicked the bigger line

[versed mesa]

I guess I'm a top 16 Andy now

[hollow lagoon]

but i still failed successfully

[hollow lagoon]

i'm either top 8 or i die in prelims now days

cinama every time

[versed mesa]

I don't understand this game anymore I did a quick once over of the match ups and I was sure that I had maybe one win semi guaranteed and the other 4 were favored to opponent

My Vesti keeps winning against SWHA teams though. I guess those two black atk lines are really clutch

[cedar sorrel]

Tvesti atk lines go a long way

[tulip quest]

that snow team of yours doesn't work for me

dunno why less damage for me

[hollow lagoon]

[hybrid fox]

got knocked down :/

god I hate pvp they made this so disgusting

[minor egret]

It's the standard team though and her best one (with zwei)

My losing cheer is still alive for now

[hybrid fox]

changed teams again... need help to be sure 😛

I need to seriously consider this

[arctic jewel]

whenever I see this cat, I now think of Zant doing this irl

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit what do you think here

[hybrid fox]

help

[hybrid fox]

left
noah + besti burst

so prob one shot some of the girls on the right

[placid bloom]

I don't trust 0 buff Vesti into Moran Helm

well I guess no Helm heal for 3s

so you have 3s to kill before they outheal you

[hybrid fox]

hmm

[swift mango]

Can't load into the game.

My daily today is bricker

@keen vapor I'm gonna be more brick than you

[gritty ridge]

As long as i kill their vesti i should win

[hollow lagoon]

idk my swha aint doing more

also gonna result in my priv going into worse supports

[versed mesa]

Anytime I see Bade I go weak in the knees

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

I don't think Miranda is that good on SWHA if there's no parts, most of her damage is proc not 1 shot pierce and the proc won't get buffed crit rate

I think even ZweiT beat Miranda

[hollow lagoon]

no the procs do

[placid bloom]

cuz ZweiT crit buff also work on proc

past 1st shot?

[hollow lagoon]

not past 1st shot

but the 1st shot's 15 procs do

[hybrid fox]

#pvp-arena message can u help me :v

[hollow lagoon]

i aint got materials to build that kekw

[placid bloom]

[arctic jewel]

[hollow lagoon]

zweiT looks good for swha but i'm skipping that one

even tho i'm a crit enjoyer

actually her buff is all allies

[placid bloom]

yes

[hollow lagoon]

might be better than miranda

[placid bloom]

she is better in double pierce team

like if you do MW SW

[hollow lagoon]

i been colllecting not Zwei treasure parts tho

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

been getting helm

so i can convert for whatever new treasure release

problem with running miranda comp is

like

idk

hyper boosting a unit

but

rest of the units dont do much damage

yeah i aint got mats to upgrade zwei

even if i get her treasure this instant

[glad meteor]

Miranda is good for swha even if no parts. She gives crit + crit dmg buff. Zwei is mostly crit buff + pierce.

[versed mesa]

I'm slowly getting the Zwei treasure, but I also don't have any manu gear for her so it is gonna take a long time before I get her to a useable state

[glad meteor]

Privaty does dmg

[hollow lagoon]

zwei is a whole team booster, i think she's more valuable

[glad meteor]

Buff who

[hollow lagoon]

all the allies

miranda buffs 1 unit

[glad meteor]

Buff support that does no dmg anyway?

[hollow lagoon]

supports does damage now days

[placid bloom]

you don't believe in SWHA XGuillo

[glad meteor]

She buffs 2. Miranda crit buff 100% is just one

[hollow lagoon]

i mean yeah

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

but zwei's crit rate buff is entire team

[placid bloom]

tbh the crit dmg buff on Miranda don't matter past 1st hit, you rarely crit at base

so if your 1st shot don't piece anything it's not even that good

it's just alright

[glad meteor]

You can test it. Miranda does more than zwei. Even on range where there’s only core part

[hollow lagoon]

miranda's on swha buffs all the procs that comes with swha's first charge atk

even tho the procs damage comes after the first charged atk hit

[glad meteor]

A lot of swha damage come from sequential hits anyway

[placid bloom]

Zwei buff SWHA off rotation too

[hollow lagoon]

^

[glad meteor]

So does miranda

[hollow lagoon]

that's what i'm refering to

[glad meteor]

zweit propaganda

[hollow lagoon]

miranda also have 30% atk up i think

[placid bloom]

Miranda is like 40%

[glad meteor]

You can test it. Miranda is just better

[placid bloom]

but 40% is diluted, 70% crit rate is not diluted

well on shooting range crit diluted by core

[hollow lagoon]

40% on 2 allies

[glad meteor]

Crit rate. With no crit dmg buff. Unless ol

[placid bloom]

where rich people, 4 atk 4 ele 4 crit dmg

fak ammo

well maybe 1 ammo alright

[hollow lagoon]

aint got skill mats for zwei treasure anyway

another 20 sec niche thing that ill only use for solo raid

and only some times

[placid bloom]

what if you want to use both SW on same team

[hollow lagoon]

my other sw not built

she buffs all piercers why limit your self to sw

prika is water supporter tho

i was scared if she was water piercer she could be in the zwei comp with swha

but nah supppppporter

kekwkekwkewkewk

unless its another sanis situation

[placid bloom]

you never know, she could be like SAnis

[gritty ridge]

Miranda is better cuz she gives crit dmg. The procs dont benefit from pierce dmg

[onyx scaffold]

@hollow lagoon cooked

[gritty ridge]

The overall performance is abt the same with a slight skew towards miranda

[onyx scaffold]

sanis blanc jackal seems to be strongest line up

[hollow lagoon]

why u ping me

[onyx scaffold]

huh

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

[onyx scaffold]

ah i know why. but it is what you deserve

[hollow lagoon]

are you suggesting we

[onyx scaffold]

@swift mango

[hollow lagoon]

what the hell is stability

like

stun resistance?

[placid bloom]

could be cover, this boss is Ultra after all

[gaunt pulsar]

lifesteal maybe?

[placid bloom]

you never know

dmg reduc is an option too, maybe new Nero comp staple

100% dmg reduc on all 5 member

[quick lake]

Hopefully works well with Nero

[placid bloom]

I think main issue is still relying on Helm lifesteal, need a B3 that heals good into Noah and Biscuit wall

[gritty ridge]

Anchor but b3

[placid bloom]

I guess Noah not really an issue though cuz Noah comp almost never has enough dps to beat Nero

but still it don't feel good to only see Nero Anis and Moran alive

[gritty ridge]

Thats why you use bay

[placid bloom]

Helm always dead

[hollow lagoon]

Quiry

[gritty ridge]

Quiry is more dmg reduction than healing

[placid bloom]

Quiry don't heal that much, she is like 2024 Nikke

we need 2026 level of healing

[hollow lagoon]

She can heal me

[hollow lagoon]

What snow crane?

[placid bloom]

Snow Crane is not a Nikke, she is NPC

[hollow lagoon]

She’s my momwaifu

[placid bloom]

she is my lap pillow

[glad meteor]

Squad stability. Surely provide stability to her squad … tt star. So mint isnt mid

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t mint pertty strong?

[gritty ridge]

Decent buffs

[hollow lagoon]

Good for the Miranda thing

[placid bloom]

Idk if I would call her strong, she is like sidegrade to existing B2

not really upgrade

[gritty ridge]

Ill probably use her on miranda swha this SR

And put crown with s.doro or something

[hollow lagoon]

Idk if a 7/7/7 mint can out do a 10/8/10 bade

[glad meteor]

Good for one burst. Sucks for the other burst

[glad meteor]

Tove arcana mald

[gritty ridge]

Wait im using blanc on swha what am I saying

[hollow lagoon]

Imagine not using arcana for sg now days

[quick lake]

I want more waifus

[gritty ridge]

Nayu>

[glad meteor]

Meta*

[hollow lagoon]

Try storm bringer solo raid museum, Blanc better

[quick lake]

Meta slave Kara?

[glad meteor]

Tbh. After prika. I want some skips

[gritty ridge]

Why would I do museum

[glad meteor]

for a long time now

[gritty ridge]

[hollow lagoon]

For doll mats

[quick lake]

more must pulls for u

[gritty ridge]

Only at step 20

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Just do it ain’t you sync 900 now?

[gritty ridge]

No im only sync 1502

[hollow lagoon]

Well shiet

Just face roll it over

[hybrid fox]

umm asking again but I completed my PvP tries
I would like something else that can win team 1 but maybe not rely on blanc indom
I won this time but luck may not favor me next time

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret this wasnt the last CA rosy lied to me. No break

so we need to keep bullying scar dude out of top 4 for a while

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle this is where my story ends

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

I will fight with honor

[minor egret]

@minor egret he's not giving up

[versed mesa]

ichi ni san ni ichi, omae wa mou shindeiru

[glad meteor]

3cchi

[minor egret]

@hidden mortar I can hit him back whenever you're ready

[hidden mortar]

yea he hit me 3 times already, he somehow managed to lose once

[hidden mortar]

lets wait an hour, I'm at work. I dont wanna be dealing with this clown instantly hitting me back

[minor egret]

Alright no problem, I'm around

[versed mesa]

Are you guys checking the online status or is he just perpetually online

[hidden mortar]

hes pretty much always online outside of 2am - 8am CN time

[minor egret]

He's here at specific hours during the week but he's getting more insistent

I mean he spent like 1k gems today while we didn't spent any

[hidden mortar]

yup. And he was already at 5K yesterday

[versed mesa]

I just can't fathom what their life looks like outside of the game, do they do nothing but sit with the game open?

[hidden mortar]

so this guy's spent double the c1 reward within 4 days of the season starting

[minor egret]

He's not leveling up either, he's hoarding. There's zero logic in him

[hidden mortar]

and the thing is, our problem with him is that he insists on attacking US. Grim is c1 and i'm c4, there are 2 other people he can hit

[minor egret]

It's personal

I would bully if he get reshuffled in my rookie. It's just a matter of time until I gap him, his account progression sucks he was 30 more levels than me not even a year ago

My rookie is funny too

[dense kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

It's always DPX or Radeki

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shadow-garden-eminence-in-shadow

[hidden mortar]

[versed mesa]

After those Fosh hits on me yesterday, the Rank 1 guy swooped in some hours later and just mopped me for all 5 hits

[hidden mortar]

@umbral crown

[tropic summit]

indom T1 and lib + anti nuke T2, so you bypass biscuit on anisTT

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-nani-gif-25387499

[hidden mortar]

[tropic summit]

better DPS on left side, but they've better DR on right side and lifesteal... you'd need to look at their invest

[umbral crown]

Everyrhing needs an end

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[umbral crown]

Like my pvp era is gone

[placid bloom]

there is no end. Pokemon didn't end when Ash became a champion it goes on forever

[tropic summit]

dareira pvp era is over, rosy era starts anew

[arctic jewel]

Game Freak wants their money

[umbral crown]

[versed mesa]

It is my era, right?

[tropic summit]

just have better team ordering skills than your opponents

https://klipy.com/gifs/thinking-think-of-it

[umbral belfry]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/maomao-apothecary-diaries-anime-anime-girl-reaction-gif-9251444815491222582

Next one is a loss though for sure

[dense kindle]

We believe anyways

btw do i need to invest in label for CA?

[versed mesa]

I won 2 Vesti vs SWHA matches with my Vesti for some weird reason

https://tenor.com/view/krunk-emporers-new-groove-map-doesnt-make-sense-confused-gif-5193468

[tropic summit]

they didn't trust the process

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

she's good for CA yeah, s2 max

[static dew]

My regular SP opponent updated his defense and i can't beat him
Would appreciate any advice before i waste more of my attempts on him