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So, we just need to swap Nayuta from Team 2 with biscuit Team 3, right?
Besides the characters mentioned above, these are the only remaining characters
oh I have an idea, vesti p3 ada p4 biscuit p5. Go to nikke.top to see how much charge speed vesti need for 2 RL

No, I'm a player who focuses on PvE, so I've upgraded very few PvP characters.
random bs goes brrr ig
no I just run tanis noah swha helmt biscuit
What can i use to defeat anistt/vestitu/xmaiden/blanc/draket
Im using anistt/nayuta/biscuit/vestitu/xmaiden in another team
jackal for dmg share? not really neccesary imo
Nero wants 3-4 healers to proc stacks
@tropic summit
show all 3 teams
why you ask me, ask him 
one handed warrior lvl 999

already told you yesterday to look at weak links
- single B1 in p1, SG weak, there's a noah so your bsoda needs to be p3 or p4 p5, the other hard hitting SGs in p3 or p4 p5, p1 and p2 can be utilities (jackal, nayuta moran or similar etc)
- noah p5, without biscuit, meaning you can use vestiTU and drakeT in p1 and p2, link them with jackal to survive vestiTU early pressure, they'll be taunted and shoot noah in p5, add SRs and stay 2RL (SRs shoot p5 regardless), E.G. SWHA/helmT. stay 2RL. needless to say you need to keep p1 linked
- any indom as long as you hit B2 alive will wipe them during FB, they've no B1 DR (no moran, no noise)
@tropic summit
good job, don't worry about losing the entire team with indoms, their job is to reach B2 and indom your DPS B3, afterward just watch your FB phase wipe them
bro, it's again the same shiet
T1 loses now
you skip T1, T2 and T3 are way easier
T2 is in deficit
then you pad it


here try this
not going 3/3 huh
read above, he's gapped
Swha lost to vestitu
now go and tune your indom to be slower than theirs
Oke, no more attempts left tho
there's SG pressure in p5 and you need to live p1, p2 and p3 pressure, all while getting a slower indom in
you can try misindom on p5 but you need to remove SWHA
if ein is built moran jackal ein blanc helmT probably does the job
do burst gen calc sites take into account minimal jackal feed or can I always assume it'll be faster?
T1 is the team you'd want to skip, so if you can pad and reach T2 it would be easier for you
Theres a 200k dif in between his t1-3 and in t2, its clear hes a cindy fan
this one does https://nikke.top/
good to know, that's the one I was using anywyas 😌
Let's break his defense @tropic summit

thats a weak defense
- noah bisucit helmt swha moran T1
- any indom T3 (biscuitless)
- skip T2 cancer stack
they forget vestiTU without ada can be stalled 
those teams lose to multiple archetypes except T2
T2 is stacked, no need to bother with it
I immediately want to try snipe T2 with my rosanna
yeah but they reach B2 and you already in trouble against anisTT
you'd need something that lives for until you get her out of invulnerable
either 1hitko her before she reaches invulnerable or stall her out enough, both options would need to remake T1 and T3 accordingly
needless headaches and waste of time when you can just skip, but that's my approach
how about this
AnisTT into team that doesn't have enough CP.... Vesti can be used as a SG in place of Soda.
Can someone help me with recommended team to beat: Moran, Noah, Helm (tr), SW:HA, and Vesti:TA
T1 probably dead to indom? unless you kill link with B2. Might work, might not depending on CS%
T2 helm unlinked ye? might work
T3 enemy p2 and p3 potentially dead, a bit iffy but may work
- noah anisTT biscuit privT SWHA
- noah anisTT biscuit privT VestiTU
T2 helm and rosa is linked
So scar definitely get indom
oh you don't wanna sacc
Indom SW/Vesti with RH buff. In Vesti case could bring AnisTT as off burst buffer... Ehm since the have Vesti Blanc p2 would likely die.
Jackal+Vesti+Ada+Blanc+SW/LapT/Helm then
Just kill noah with absolute
You'll win
But but who have absolute built? 
Underrated absolute
does Anis Star off burst give a higher attack buff to Helm off burst?
or assuming they've collab limited unit built and linkable 
assuming absolute built is probably safer than assuming ada is highest HP in link and available 
although i'd assume both unavailable
I've seen this team pop up on the JP side for SP defense. Would Ada be a good replacement for Emilia if I don't have her? Or thoughts on the team? 🤔
this is rookie?
looks irrelevant
at least won't be doing anything for her B3
I meant, if I put in Anis instead of Helm, is her attack buff better than Helm's? Sorry for the confusing wording
offburst?
yes, off burst
SP Defense
wouldn't run it for SP def, abusable and waste of 4 good units
noah without biscuit = easy food for any indom
p2 anisTT without biscuit = can be killed by splash
emilia B3 = delayed nuke can be abused in attacker favour
this video is misleading because that team is run exactly against what it counters and a weak team at that
don't get bad information imo 
keep in mind there's no unbeatable def anyway, no matter what they tell you
there are "trickier" defs over less tricky ones, or those with fewer abusable options
Mine got cracked recently so was looking for something new
but there's no unbeatable one
try any of these sets
(1)
- nayuta anisTT privT drakeT helmT
- jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc laplaceT
- moran siren swha noah biscuit
(2)
- moran helmt swha noah biscuit
- jackal nayuta trina cindy laplaceT
- anisTT vestiTU rapunzel drakeT blanc
(3)
- jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT
- nayuta anisTT privT drakeT helmT
- moran noah biscuit swha liberalio
if one gets beaten switch to the next
I've been on the edge of sliding into Champions Arena since last group reset so that's why I've been looking to improve my teams a bit
bumping my question in case someone can help.
test it in shooting range on your own is probably faster
run:
- ein centi rumani anisTT jackal
and - ein centi rumani helmT jackal
only attack pre burst with jackal to build burst gen, burst then take a screenshot (of after burst stats)
Buffed up my Noise and got bayT and trina geared up
there seems to be rumors that SU will extend entry point for CA to all the ch ranks soon
in fact they kind of hinted it in latest notes
so it will get probably easier to access
those "improvements" to arena could mean anything and nothing, but we'll see what it means
oh nice, would be nice to not have a constant bloodbath for top 4 lol
O
Maybe that's why Crown Gacha man hitting me
Only they failed x2 for first time in ages
no deficit

🧱
You don't need Ada linked, just make her unlinked
looks like a misindom ada in p3 then, there's vestiTU and SWHA on the other side
he damn better have her well built to afford slotting her there
placing noah p5 for defense is a free win
She'll die in 1rl like this
real booly
Put Vigor on her. 
SW would actually make the linked take more dmg not otherwise. Her charge shot is still her biggest hit.

label 
Thanks @tropic summit @swift mango @covert lintel will try it out later
man's maybe trying to spread weak teams to benefit from them later (?) 
except it won't, def is as good as your 2 weakest teams
Nah, there's no benefit for him
He's ranked 1 after all
the day we reach a point where you can throw an helmt anisTT and noah away as your "weakest" team would be wild
makes you wonder how 🐒 his rivals are if he can afford running those kind of teams
it's actually wild how silly a bracket can look compared to another filled with pvp mains
new arena mode: SP arena server wide 
new arena mode 2: SP arena cross-server

new arena mode 3: CA cross-server

nikke world war 1
Now I know why they used Soline in Vesti team


interesting cook
except you don't get any crit rate with that @swift mango
also no rosanna means you won't burst
just gambling with different variables
Emma and Euhwa already give Crit rate. 
But i think that scar is low effort
No crit counter at all
he's running it against one of the weakest teams in CA
I bursted just fine there.
damn today we spreading a lot of propaganda 
fingers crossed that team doesn't run into biscuit or nayuta archetypes with p4 and p5 being core chain members
i think i have good units for sp arena but idk how to make one. help?

- moran siren swha naga SBS
- scarlet adeB RRH centi jackal
- anisTT neonOS alice biscuit liberalio


may i ask whos naa?
got it thanks my g

I wonder what doro taste like
Can someone adjust my teams ive been losing to lower lvl ppl SP (DEF)
Nayuta/Trina/Helm/RH/Emilia
Noise/Siren/SnowWhite:HA/Laplace/Noah
Jackal/VestiTAC/Blanc/Centi/Drake
Need help, my DEF team got beaten too often, should I start building Rosanna with hopes of getting my spot unfked?
SP arena
- jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT
- moran noah biscuit swha drakeT
- nayuta anisTT privT emilia helmT
Notes
- utilities aren't maxed, build up jackal, noah, biscuit
- some pvp cores aren't fully built, build up vestiTU, emilia, nayuta
for the above aim for SR15, especially on noah vestiTU and emilia, right after biscuit, jackal and nayuta
team order and synergy is off on all 3 teams, you can optimize this much better
- jackal vestiTU rumani blanc liberalio (vestiTU tempering, liberalio vigor, batteries quantum)
- moran noah biscuit neonOS swha (whole team on tempering, biscuit vigor)
- you can run a 2RL nayuta variant here instead of another stall with bay, bay without biscuit is too abusable.
Suggest: nayuta anisTT privT flex helmT
in flex: drakeT/bsoda/emilia/laplaceT
e.g.
I have Quantum Cube Lvl 15, Tempering Lvl 10, Resilience Lvl 15, who should I put the cubes on?
for T1 and T2 see notes
for T3
nayuta any
anisTT quantum
privT and helmT tempering
drakeT any
Is Blanc a battery unit for Quantum?
blanc is utility, slot her with vigor
quantum is on jackal and rumani
Ok thanks
@tropic summit I also have a question, is building 2RL teams always better? I see the template teams you made is 2.5RL
you can ignore the thresholds on the sheet, they're not fully updated
T1 is 2.2RL via vestiTU 5CS%+ or 2RL via feed, (enough to hit indom in time)
T2 is 2.2RL, enough to hit moran B1 in time to avoid siren stun and B2 in time for enemy B3, which is what you want
T3 is actually 2RL via anisTT kit
let me just be clear on burst activation frames, after the party reaches the threshold for B1, it's 24 frames always after for B1 to activate?

24? you mean 32?
you can check frames here: https://nikke.top/
Okay so you suggested VestiTU, Moran, Noah, Neon, SWHA, Priv, HelmT to be on Tempering Cube which is beyond my Lvl 10 cube (6 slots)
Who should I put Quantum cube on instead
if 6 slots vestiTU, moran, noah, swha, privT, helmT
quantum is only needed on jackal rumani and anisTT
No Biscu huh
for the others if no tempering or vigor available as suggested slap a stat stick, although keep vigor on liberalio to ensure indom priority
Bisc already used with Noah
now hover the mouse over B1, B2 and B3 activations
that's where you get the exact frame they kick in
yes, between B1-B2 and B2-B3 it's 32.
there you go
How about for total charge to B1? it's just always 24?
just consult nikke top, it accounts for all elements that influence burst activation (feed, links, quantums, CS% etc)
the frames you see there are the answer you need
yes, and yes. I believe it doesnt count skill activation delays tho like blanc, noah, lib burst. I think someone posted the delays here but I forgor 
What if I want to consult nikke bottom 
💨
What about top?



Ready to do the thing tonight?
Rail, which group are you
As ling as i do not die there and replays works, we good

But... did you cook?
i copy pasta'ed last champ teams for the most part
Now is Rail vs Asia


ye rosy like em young
highest CP = whel

Not a wheel but...
@tropic summit
While chatgpt is usually better as finding stuff on the internet... Google A.I translation is just superior....
sounds like something a whel would say


A visual bug, trust
It's about a Manhua... Mtl side can't translate that text but Google A.I can...
The guy transmigrated to another world, after gachaing the role of "Strongest martial artist emperor Ziwei" but the rest of the test was "casually killed you, the inn waiter Ah wei" that he didn't read. 
My eyes are not on Rosy
My eyes is in on Railtracer
I know T3 is pretty easy to counter but I have no idea how to counter T1
My best team's cp is 31k
@tropic summit ...?
scar nuke t1
I'll get cp gated
sync up
She's sync
But not OL'ed
post your box
we need to CP pad T1 or T2
Oh yea almost have forgotten about that
he's padded to the max almost
@tropic summit thank you for the comps.
show CP with these
@tropic summit literal only thing he can increase in there is rapi over liv
nah he can afford deficit in T1
just need to get close to 15-19%
damn luther went really wild on your def 
how many gems are those
u keep doing this they will keep making u do deficit cooks

takes me 1 minute cuz they're dumb teams
and it will get deeper and deeper
some times its better to just say sync up mfker
he can't sync up
he can
noone is gonna spend money for silly gacha game
that's not my provlem
no idea. My bracket is very competitive, had 3-5 new bloods with 50 lvls on me, so top 10 is mostly out of reach.

damn sounds pretty bad
sync u........ (died by rail)
show me CH9 and CH10 teams if you can see them
maybe they're abusable and can poke at them
CH10
Lel
CH 8
i already can tell me and @mint fog wont get along
oh this one may be in range
all 50 lvls on me, cp deficit is kinda harsh
for maximum of 9 days

show CP with these on that matchup, you're on the left
Sesual harrassment
you honor i plead insanity
your honor i present evidence
vesti is a massive cp loss, just started leveling her gear.
Pat me Rail I wan't out of this Insane Witch Doctor give me peace
do you've ada built?
nah
give me your blabla link we need a B3 option for indom
also this is not the matchup i gave you
moran anisTT cindy helmt noah vs their scarlet
cindy team is 3RL so we can probably pad it
where to find?
nvm i can probably use this
#pvp-arena message
yourhonor i post bribe
Alice shud be more innocent looking
your honor 🚨
@mint fog show the matchup with these
i really should change this
noone is even able to hit you anyway
this thing rising up
he's f2p
you're already gapping him and will keep gapping him even further
filthy 🐳
dost stop me from being scared
U tried Scarlet Drake Fairy Anne Rossana Noir?
forget trying, he hasn't add anyone remotely close to even hit him
he can't play SP arena
As a song says: if you scared well, do not be scareedd.. you are one of a kinnnd
he needs to put synchro 1 units to let people hit him
TRUE THAT
he aint gonna do that
he's too prideful to let people have a chance
he could troll around the ladder by hitting people at whim and staying low rank on purpose but he just sits and gets dust on CH1
he doesn't even need the gems 
sounds like excuses 
That looks abit little 
it's cuz he's investing in anything that moves
people without access to 💳 learn to focus on broken units or elemental oriented
and 10/8/4 on selegg
give people wide loads of resources and they end up like zant
building anything that breathes
ill have you know i find use for snow crane so i 4/4/4 her last night
I can't breathe unless Rail pats me on the head blushes

please don't make snow crane meta 
Our WHALE

STEP 2 is kinda bad
300m ish from step 3
need ele roll on grave (i have 0)
what does snow crane does again?
💨
Blanc no good? 
man does it smell weird suddenly in this chat
if u like eating elemental shields
Hmm
that is a very werid diet
Cindy rh are mediocre dps on neutral these days deadge
I’ll try sb at 683. 621 too low
Its over
Weridly good
I'm screwed. I dont even need to know the result. Raegis guy is same group as me
@tropic summit just wanted to double check but the second team with t-moran slightly changed. The guy swapped moran out with star anis. is star anis/noah/privaty/biscuit/swha still effective?
*edit never mind I tried thinking I would get lucky I did not. I lost. when you get a chance, let me know a counter.
30 min 
@gaunt pulsar if u r available.
The union name 
Lazy on section
the always high top guy?
im always on section tho?
it loses the same way to team that we used for anis/noah/swha/cindy/bisc
I just never see ou in gen chat
lots of topic in genchat
I just chat on my chosen places
Makes sense
I chat here I see familiar faces and Rail im happy
@tropic summit he is happy

rail is not included in familiar faces

are u shore not the fun (in bed) face?

@tropic summit its over for me
Time to say goodbye to pvp, next skill reset. All my pvp only units getting skill resetted
imagine dying to scar with label and game tells you version issues

it's clearly a skill issue
still no replay 
every time i lose tis version issue
i never get to see how i lose
it's too cursed probably
why? just cuz you can't win in CA? keep them for SP arena, it's all it matters 
Kara can just join us shooting range mains
This is where my Journey ends bois
i might join a new kind of main
move onto
solo raid hall main
the "play this game every 3 months" main 

Noooo
Not gonna go check yet, since I am certain I didn't make it, also just checked through alt, my sniper has been offline for 16 hours 
scarlet into bay
SGs into moran
Nayuta vs Nayuta but enemy on side advantage
at least i got to test my Ein indom which worked fine against mirror indom 
I need to see how my rapi indom did lol
Rosa dispel Label and Vesti.
You burst with Vesti. But Blanc Indom label. Vesti got slashed. Then 5 seconds over and ada and the rest also out of commission.
solo raid hall main soon?

prove it

I got that kind of match 2-3 times before. 

alright, back to a real game 
i back to bed


you conquering the ocean?
My shit teams did it today. First time I win a tier breaker too. 
Again my teams are very shit so it's just pure luck
pretty fun, they did what community wanted and liked, end results: plot twist, a good game
complete freedom to explore w/e the fk you want while giving you hints here and there
it's not folkwang not working
it's that anisTT can't win 1v1 against moran
just RNG matchup, as always
That's my lost 
ye anisTT lost to moran
Could win with blanc
I keep getting attacked
put in your bio "don't attack me" 
Ada misindom is real.
Should have put vigor on her at least or Blanc p3
thx for taking my name as anisTT a
My luck is that enemies teams are equally shit if not shittier .
and I lose in attack again dam it
I thought my attacks were gonna win because they were close in pattern
they weren't
Next CA I would use Blanc p3
Before I crap this team
I am not gonna do good in this spvp
Just try harder
Is my rosanna usable now 
Looks like you didnt reach full burst
Maybe maybe not lol. You can get as much atk as you want. Whether or not ros will nuke will still depend on the fight
will ask harder here
Ofc I didn't
@unique wagon With Folkwang go well with Anis, she could move to A tier at least if you didn't
skill ?
S2 10 
I won against indom AnisTT here it's incredible.
Ah I got what happened, he couldn't go into full burst because slow team.
Emi+Nayuta killed Vesti and Helm nuke Libby.
It's always happened when update
update was ages ago
@mystic rain I wasn't lying when I said I didn't use Rosa this season. It just happened so you got this. 
They did a quick update today to remove coop.
damn
Would be hard to kill SW without ele.or linked.
@mystic rain nvm
First to cheer
3/4 of my SpA made it pass League. Almost 4/4. Shame.
@hidden mortar He's spending gems again
not even going for c2, just straight for you and me. I saw he's 601 now and you're 541, I need 4 more levels to wall him again but I can try a few things until then
@keen patio my friend
nero needs high invest and 100% needs a doll to fully utilize that team. I would stop using ASAP
yes lol
even if anis wasn't on the team, nero works at her best with high invest 
that's what makes stall stall
I wished they made tier 2 CA and left us bring 7 teams in.
I could actually make another 2 okay teams with the left over. 
rosa neglect 
no please, no. >_<
I am opposite of you. 3/4 of my SpA got destroyed in League. Almost 0/4.
I'll represent my League. Fly high younger server! Hope to see you at Top 16, senpai.
NANII?!
Me too


🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

What have we learned?
Trust the Process 
@umbral belfry evil
Trust the process
Will surely lose again the top-64 but hey 
Same
rapi werent suppose to be huge but kekw
Wompforce 9000 research got to be done asap.
i need it in helm
Ingrid should make Helm the first test subject 100%
@swift mango CN cook
idk why when think about which nikke i would
with most of time i think helm
My VestiTU indom is going right against a SWHA indom
It's all ogre
She looks cool and calm. Typical cool beauty which is my type too ♥
Noooooooo~

@tropic summit you won?
SU slacking off again
champ run 
I would love to post more Helm art, but I don't wanna get banned xD
I can't see the replay
I think 2 are almost guaranteed losses for me, the other 3 seem plausible but probably favored to my opponent 

Send them in his dm or union chat
Then again I don't know the full synergies of ca teams so could be wrong and I am guaranteed losing all 5 
this game is currently blue waifu supremency
This ca will be a bug run again
They didn't update ca server
^^
Waos
Helm and Arcana carrying
Do not stop
It sucks that the replays don't work, especially now when I somehow got past advance

I wanted to see what teams actually were worth keeping maybe for future

With this ca, 2 and half ca season is bugged
Isn't Privaty's hair color more like... turquoise?
Or is it blue? I dunno, wife regardless
My sniper got top-32 last season. He didn't even get past advance this time 
But top-32 is better than I have ever had so still 
yea I can still smack him around thanks to the 541. Is he hitting you now?
Got ein mirror and lost
@umbral belfry I've failed
lost in group stage so nero can't get to shine, still undefeated though for what its worth. Its my other teams that keep getting ass rng

dafuq 
so you over came the struggle and won

@tropic summit I won advance! 
exploring the unknown
Tell me more, what's the bug?
Come
First CA 2 win 1 loss, I'll take it 
My replay button seems to be even more broke than other peoples though, I can't even get to the team results win/loss screen
mmmmmmmm in my bracket eah
Oh you mean we can play the replay? yea I cant play the replay too T_T
rosa dispells the damage reduction
game made an anti elec pvp character but still loses to the best elec character
I will avenge you
Yea the replay doesnt work...
Which one were you?

i died
Seems like my old rival from before shuffle didn't even make past advance this time, he has been top4 -top 16 like the past three
Could you show the result of league?
lmfao
Ohhhh, I thought you meant you were in my group too
never again p5 label


now that is susssssss
Next time I'll see you bracket 
the moment i stated putting p5 label I started losing to scars
Damn man, Noise taunt Helm 
Just blessed
i sweep the 2nd guy 5-0 btw
i lost because i malded storm bringer for @versed mesa 
my 2rl noah - snow team lost to SG and i can't see how
thanks SU
Hey! I just asked if you had done it, I didn't tell you need to do it 
my finger is now even mroe crippled
wondering if i can win 1-2-4
his is more broken, can't even see the battle results
we can at least see our results if not the replay
when you are 2 minutes into the fight and you are honestly tired of clicking alice but you push on


and then yuou eat a stun cuz u fk up a cover
I got some free space
annoying we cant watcg replays so i cant even see how i lost
I can't even check battle results 
welcom to 90% of my losses
I have no idea what teams won and against what
Wtf
You could win 1-3-4-5. 2 is a bit harder probably lose.
Label being delulu
I'd assume rh made label get stunned and from there it's gg 
never again
knew it was a trap
3 is depends on if you have CS so noise burst before helm though
Imma eat and then log in later to mald over the sniper again 
exactly LMAOOO
almost certain rh made label stun herself
the only reason why I put label p5 was bc more absolutes were popping up, so cindy was in p3
but now screw it 
at least then p4 label won't lose matches she should be winning
if it fights absolute it is what it is 
I saw this happened before. RH blew her shield and Scarlet wipe her. You need more CS in this team so label burst before Scarlet wipe at least.
Well, it was close, only one team lost to the new face. Hope they go all the way
Not a bad result, considering the third team was the typical "Xhare cooking". Fix that for next round and maybe?
bisc is at 15 cs so unless 18 cs would help it more
regardless I've seen enough
even if i had bisc 21 cs I wouldn't do p5 label
Yeah, you just can't burst faster than scarlet wipe with this team.
Good to know regardless, I need to switch placement for my Label as well
that's the only way i could get any more cs outside of quantum on sw
but I was always a label p4 truther anyway. nothing lost 
back to p5 cindy goes 
least then I don't get bamboozled by scar 
It's funny that some people say that Scarlet is not great anymore, yet, she still seems to be winning
acceptable but there's not much fast indoms in my bracket
and cindy helps in case of miharas which people surprisingly still run
otherwise yeah I'd say that's a fair trade
Problem with that team is that it 3rl. So fast team could screw it over in many ways label p3-4 or 5. 
But yeah couldn't be helped.
iirc the only real threat to sw p2 and bisc p3 is absolute. anything else I'm not worried about
but now I'm just screw it 
Label p3? 

p4 besto
I stand by that 
Good to know 
It's the first time I decided to try running it
no more label stuns


Tbf, Rosa could still dispel her shield and stun her.


Without doll I was getting around 80% damage reduction
It was something I slapped together with my meager resources 
Are you getting pass league?
from what someone in pie discord sent rosa dispel isn't even all that bad for label
as in she didn't get stunned at all
Idk, Rosa dispel then scarlet wipe Label 
friend's label team won vs scar rosa

No stun but still got wiped by Scarlet before she burst in your 3rl team.
What's the team?
the problem is (assuming from your cp) it looks like your nero barely has OLs. she's also extremely skill book hungry
lemme try to find it. was last ca
if we're basing it off mine I'm almost certain my label got stunned so it's different
p5 label trap 
Idk, my label got dispelled and wiped by Scarlet many times before.
Maybe add some quantum and hope she burst before Scarlet.
@swift mango 
Label probably not getting dispelled. Maybe your Cindy or biscuit too high ATK.
not my vid and if you see labels buffs she did get dispelled
my label also gets dispelled vs rosa
Ah, pepega Rosa. Only dispelled 3 buffs.

idk about that my meemaw eyes can't squint to see what exact buffs remained
regardless I'm still going back to p4 
although I don't see that electric thingy on her buff list
so fairly certain that was gone
idk what happened in your match 
The stunning did make me worried, so I'm considering to change my team as well
I think my copycats all ded 
They are not invested enough to use those teams...
i'm confident my emi will kill the opponent besti first but will rosanna speed up to 3rl?
I see someone from Rhode island.
@shell hazel also it did end up being easy win for u lol
sort of lol - I won 3-0 but I won against an opponent 3-2
can't see why really due to no replays, though my SG team ran into a hardcore crew so I expected that to lose
how about you?
even then my soline should be dead as well so no burst
Just update me with the result tomorrow thanks. 
join me 
Another one.
I may not be a super good PvP player, but I do wanna learn 
My copycat lost miserably 0-3, he didnt have Anne so it was expected but i think all my copycats didnt make it prolly due to their Nero tank comp not invested enough 
"If I use the exact same teams as the winner, I'm sure to win!"
Btw why did you go to another group @karmic smelt 
I ran this
no copycat here I always like to try to make my own comps a bit, even if some common ones
wdym another group?
My group 4 isn't you
Oh that was last season lol
It stopped working for me since 3 seasons ago
Oh i thought it was the current season
Can’t even open the panel to see which team I won
what's this site 
I guess the thing is i was the only winner not using meta in a while, especially the Anne shotgun team
I made it 
it's local only for now
Why cant I see even match result?
well I made it with the assist of claude anyway

@minor egret he hit you again. I'll probably wait an hour before hitting him again, he's being annoying
@high swan same issue lol
I should take a look at your old teams (our current ones if you still use them this season), since my options for CA are a bit limited atm
I had to pause bc I saw the team 
2 from rhode
Surely this group gonna conceed so i can win with p1 centiT for the doubters 
at least you won
Yeah i use same teams this season too
Idk, I guess I was just unlucky. Be sure to put Tempering on label though.
Back up b1. I won 2-3 times thanks to that.

Probably a female doctor too
You could check this Reddit username to see her draw the daily life of doctor and her husbando.
I have my quantum cube at level 9 and my tempering at level 7. Ive had res and bastion at 15 for a while now so I have alot of union chips saved up. Is it worth it to level quantum and tempering to level 15?
Quantum, no
Tempering, yes
You could level up Quantum, but Tempering should have a lot higher priority
like i should be aiming for level 15 tempering?
And you probably want to consider upgrading other cubes over Quantum
That's optimal in PvP, yes
I have no issue with this
Nopw, i died as alwaysb
Maybe just copy pasta a team from Section at this point.


thanks, ill just focus tempering than until level 15 then
@ionic rose pffft, we're in the same bracket apparently
nayuta's been poking me but he can't win with me at 541 lol
Get me out of here. He's so unhinged
if we ever do get reshuffled this braket can keep lsp and you can come back to our old bracket with us
speaking of. LSP got put in my group for CA
I 5-0'd him (but lost to someone else, lol)
I need to review this team because if his Privaty doesn't die right away it's problem and there's still my Noise in round 2 who can get crit to oblivion and then his Nayuta win. Was just some random tossing to have a 2RL Privaty


What are ur team this season. This is mine
can probably try using rosanna to snipe privaty? I just run slower indom vs this tbh
I don't mind, I would actually love that
My Rosanna is on a budget. Like 4-4-7 with 14% atk 

T.T.Anis as solo b1 and thats done
thats what I'm doing, anis - blanc - biscuit and 2 sac units

Yeah there are many problem with this line up.
Waste Lap and Emi on a "win with nuke or lose" Libby team.
That Scarlet team without Rosa is slow.
Vesti could use p4. But this is minor.
I would put Neon p5 to prevent back shot.
I'm focusing his team 1 and 2 so all these nikkes are already used but I have Anis free
Look, I never had to really use her so uhhh... 

Scar team was the throwaway team
my bad. didnt know this was for anti nuke/glass cannon counter
Moran with against Nayuta yeah. 
But well, Libby team with Emi+lap is kinda demerit in this meta. You don't want to trigger biscuit on p1-2 before Libby landed.
And you shouldn't be making throw away team anyway. 

i will also write this down
ojisan...
Obachan for ou 
I guess just trust the process more would be enough. 
Time to retire and party 🎉


Is that dolla

Would this work? Like there's no way my Anis and Privaty die before stunning them, right? Used Neon to gap by 17%
Oh wait they couldn't even burst.
Quantum on Anis and Trina make it 2RL
I wish we had different sets for cubes in atk and def 
At this point just remove Trina and try to gap them with 25-30% deficit
Do not think so..

you can just kill t1 and t2
BRO ITS 1 AM IN THE MORNING HERE
t2 is weak and t1 is easy to beat without deficit
Blanc used?

Yeah no Blanc no Biscuit no Noah
go to sleep mf
But not here 
Bro knows when you atrack
this is the most random time that I attack
Not really
If you wanted to compete like this, change def everytime you lose a def
Provide you two are similar level
Even with zero team building and only power padding I get to 23% at best. I need to swipe harder 
I doubt I'm going up against you though, I don't have enough confidence in my current teams, to do some investment in a lot of Nikkes
I haven't checked my opponent's teams, but I doubt I win
CA is another word for mental asylum
I'm going to test my funny team for science, I just want to see my big Neon in the special arena 
I think we gotta be to be here with tenshi and crew lol
unfortunately, swha dies after blanc is activated.
Lel (I do like Tenshi's teams though)
Wait i have a question does overspec like TAnis benefit from recycle room of both Pilgrim AND Tetra?
Neon failed me
oh well
No I don't think so
If it did, wouldn't it be pretty broken? (Or more like, unfair)
Yeah i think overspec counts as pilgrim, just not in tribe tower and equipments
They don't
It's been ages but from what I recall, aside from Manufacturer gear, overspec characters count same as pilgrims for the other buffs
Rapi = Elysion console. Neon and Mihara = Missilis. Anis = Tetra
See here
Would be too OP if they were scaling on both
Tribe tower
Only
shuffle defense or change completely?
Guys, I need a bit of help
I recently made a pvp battle, of course
but the enemy team was about over spec anis, moran with treasure, blanc, noir and bunny soda
I got destroyed, I mean like 2 shots most of my team
So, it couldn't be the difference in combat power or level because we were alike
My team was moran with treasure, noah, Cinderella, helm and biscuit (I know, not the best team out there)
I just wanna know how I got erased, I can't seem to find a answer, maybe is as simple such as my team sucks on current pvp, but I wanna be sure
You could've at least replayed it and recorded it.
Didn't thought about it at the time, I was a bit stun-lock
You sure there wasn't a difference in power between you two?
multiply enemy team CP for 0.846, if your team CP is above that value, you're not at least in penalty
either way it looks like it's a biscuitless anisTT and blanc, just kill blanc and that team loses most of it's power
if you show the full team and what you can run we can give you better directions
Apparently I accentally put myself in CA with some bs teams I had from some months ago and somehow won 3/3 games 
Not gonna make it any further than that though 
shuffling is meaningless unless opponent is dumb af
make new teams and change archetype is what works the best
Rail, I took the weak link notes down. didnt know the weak link stuff you sent yesterday was for anti nuke/glass cannon counters
@tropic summit Hey, any idea how I can consistently beat this team without these nikkes? 2RL Privaty work half the time now, not sure how I could Lib it. I win the 2 others rounds but I'm still curious
anisTT + blanc + biscuit = stacked
you skip that team
it's expensive to deal with it because it require slower indom or ultra stall
meaning you need to min/max all other 2 teams
That's what I thought but I can gap it if I pad a bit so I was wondering if there was a way
Anis is crazy
@lusty gull I think deck is wrong for anis additional gen for SG users like Soline
then gap it, although you'll still need some sustain cuz that's a lot of DPS even on deficit
stuff like moran or helmT B3 on deficit advantage could deal with that
don't think we're counting anis gen per pellet right
Yeah the issue is if Privaty doesn't die before the end of the stun or even then having to deal with Anis Blanc Maiden remaining is pain
By the way, why does my team lose to NUKKE if I put Nayuta P1?
i'm really disappointed about recent updates so i'm not very motivated to update nikke deck @shell hazel
Probably something to do with Biscuit invulnerability timing on Anis? Did you watch the match?
I appreciate that - thanks for replying anyway!
it's still a tool I think the community uses a lot but interest comes and goes
No. I just quick battle it.
don't feel you need to maintain it if you lose that spark
I have anis what team can i build now
this anis gen calc stuff makes it even more insane because it's not just a quantum multi
@tropic summit I just logged in and my opponent hit me about 3 min ago
What is this timing
With anis in p2 she doesnt take enough damage so biscuit skill does not activate which allows their lib to one shot her
it's not about i don't want to maintain it or anything like that, it's only that i don't like recent updates and choices they do
Ooh. I see. Thanks.
The other guy team or my team? if it's the other guy it's not appearing anymore, but I can say there was just about 50k in cp difference of him being stronger
And how should I share what do I have? seems faster a short record scrolling down than listing who I think I have that can work, but I don't know if I can do that
Or just Libby nuke.
with stuff like anis? we've had a lot of pve units that do insane burst gen lately
I kind of preferred it when proper pvp builds required building stupid stuff pve players don't build
How do you set up a good one against this? You need to not trigger Biscuit buff on the defenders before the tsunami, right?
I wonder what my opponent is thinking. I was offline for over 2 hours and then after he hits me I login 3 min later and hit him back a few min after that 
Pure coincidence too
I was sure he would login like an hour from now
Use Libby to make them indom on XMaiden or Vesti to make them indom on Privaty.
Vesti indom win in the case Privaty got indomed.
Libby you could just use Noise+Noah+Libby+helm+low dmg flex
I see. I don't think I have the right leftovers to do this properly but I have Vesti and Lib so I'll try to make the indom go on Privaty next time
dies to anisTT + blanc + biscuit
we've been through that several times
she's unbalanced, burst gen is not the problem
i don't like events since 2x2, included
i don't care about rythm game
0 new content
no news about pvp since ca beta
he can try anyway since he wins the other 2 if anything
pvp was always kind of forgotten lets face it
pvp is getting something in the 2nd part of the year
they did bare min for pvp
that is mainly CA to chal 10 imo
"gradually implement improvements to the arena"
surely they'll fix ratting and gemming 
the camera not zooming about in CA would be a nice start 😄
i know but no real news about it
obviously
SU sitting on their comfy cow to milk, people keep giving them money anyway
just keep releasing a few lewds
no pressure and no need to change anything 
"gradually" so yeah they just wanted you to know they're still working on the game because they had nothing to announce 
I spend less over time I imagine they have an issue of older players spending less
Rail - we practically completed Nikke already
yeah we did, there would be no incentive to spend realistically
The gameplay become super stall once you caught up with hard campaign/tower. Just dailies, 1 UR 1 SR and 2 coop per month with a dead outpost
SR is dominated by day 1 and whales, let alone hackers
arena is optional, realistically
we just sit and wait and play every 3 months when new hard mode stages come out
there's museum for the daring i guess
i'll keep going some as the story stuff is usually good, and I don't mind competing in SR/UR some too (they're not that intensive if you got good nikkes)
nikke shifted to auto'ing most of the time with the new units, you barely even need to manual anymore
rhythm game - not for me - but I see why they did it
too much burst gen I think
But yeah the only reason I am malding with pvp this much is because of the rewards plus no new stuff to do with Tribe Tower full cleared and same for campaign
you run anis/SWHA/helmT you insta-burst lol
I never missed a day
and potentially wipe the entire screen within seconds anyway
Where's my auto-dailies at then? 
the challenge they add in some stages is usually some bs mechanics
silencer + volleyballs or w/e
or the porcupine 
Just sbs and target something else 
not my SBS anyway lol
but it's ok we got subnautica 2 to play atm, nikke can gtfo until new content is out 
the campaign story is the only thing i still like recently
day 1 players prob find it harder - I'm almost at end of hard though
I like having a goal to hit
Subnautica 2 was over in like 20 hours for me, I could have worked harder on my base but I'm keeping my energy for when it'll be out of early access. Cool game though
almost completed nikke lol 
I fell off on the story hard like 1.5 years ago. I barely read any of the new stuff and whenever I do I just go "are they really going this way with the story?" 
Zant is not in our CA bracket anymore? 
Too bad new chapters are releasing at a snail pace








