pvp-arena

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/kU8QlxSnpQT.gif

[gritty ridge]

Why

[covert lintel]

what will anis do there?

[swift mango]

Be pretty

[hollow lagoon]

supporter, rosa poke might not keal, absolute nuke 2-3 still burst and kill absolute, units die and moran left? moran is electric gets anisbuff

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-on-my-bed-someone-help-me-get-these-bugs-off-my-bed-bed-bugs-tumblr-gif-11669549493142415863

[swift mango]

First time since CA begin I didn't bring Rosa or Scarlet let alone both. You got this.

[mystic rain]

oh u also dropped scar?

me too xd

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nikke-doro-nayuta-sgSCve9dpIFK5kIvil

[swift mango]

Nah I just making random team in 10 minutes and Rosa+Scarlet just in the 6th teams.

[hybrid fox]

Hi big rail

[quaint granite]

She dies first?

[gritty ridge]

Shes jackal linked

[tidal lichen]

jack blanc snow bisc emilia
moran siren lib helm trina
noise rumani cindy noah anis

@tropic summit thoughts.

[hybrid fox]

last team wins tho

[tidal lichen]

it does but need helm somewhere else

[covert lintel]

moran buffer i see

[quaint granite]

How you know that

[hollow lagoon]

[hybrid fox]

yeah need thoughts t obe certain

[gritty ridge]

I assume rakuen is a smart cookie

[quaint granite]

@covert lintel you positive Rosa is linked? And Libby?

[gritty ridge]

Tho p1 is a weird choice cuz shes gonna make your opponent faster

[covert lintel]

Rosa and scar are linked

[lofty spire]

does anyone know how to win this? 21 level deficit

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/only-war-reason-gaming-warhammer-gif-17304554

[covert lintel]

Libby bait for when they meet vesti

[quaint granite]

Interesting

[gritty ridge]

Rakuen you know she target skips right? You just put cindy p1 basically

[wind kelp]

Welp. Let's see how it goes. Didn't put much effort into tems this time, just copy pasta

[covert lintel]

i knew
That's why jackal there

[gritty ridge]

Youre making your opponent faster

[quaint granite]

@hollow lagoon your clone in that CA

[tidal lichen]

noah moran helm snow bisc

[hollow lagoon]

obviously inferior

[covert lintel]

Isn't rosanna diff from cindy?
She doesn't have decoy like cindy

[lofty spire]

imma try this

[gritty ridge]

Youre still giving them an extra target

[tidal lichen]

if its not in range you lose

[gritty ridge]

Hitting p1-3 rather than p1-2

[covert lintel]

that's fine

[lofty spire]

range? what does that mean?

[tidal lichen]

deficit

[umbral crown]

@hollow lagoon look, its you

[gritty ridge]

Good luck

[hollow lagoon]

[lofty spire]

so this loses?

[umbral crown]

[wind kelp]

Hmm? Am i fighting someone here? 😄

[tidal lichen]

yes

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

A P23 believer indeed

[umbral crown]

[wind kelp]

I don't understand, but,

[umbral crown]

Product 23

[wind kelp]

Oh riiiight, the avatar 😄

If it's not iDoll Flower, i tend to forgor.

[umbral crown]

[wind kelp]

[gritty ridge]

Idoll sun is peak

[hybrid fox]

sry which anis

[tidal lichen]

star

[covert lintel]

My rosanna is getting countered already

[tidal lichen]

snow should have less hp than emilia

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

And label too

[hybrid fox]

LLW

@swift mango help

[tidal lichen]

1 losing doesnt make sense, are you sure youre not in deficit and snow is getting indom

[tropic summit]

you're probably a tad early indeed

post your box and current 3 defenses

[arctic jewel]

Anis sure is a balanced Nikke

[tropic summit]

typical buffed nayuta 2RL early pressure, although that team is on the slower side and is using rapunzel for no reason

you wanna run nayuta, you gotta make her 2RL and an anisTT or RH B1 is fine, the main B3 should be privT or helmT, adding offburst DPS will add pressure, adding SG will add p5 pressure aswell, so it forces noah biscuit or noah in p4

[tidal lichen]

wait for my 541 clear (surely happens)

[tropic summit]

is this for defense?

my same team

he gone cookig

[late tiger]

1st don't use another b1, make it 2rl and use rossanna

[tropic summit]

T1 looks fine although it's single buff swha so it's gonna rely on invest
T2 this is ballsy, there's a vesti so it's a speed race in siren hitting stun before sudoko'ing
T3 looks solid

[tidal lichen]

theres no vesti on t2 no?

still lost somehow tho

[charred quail]

not sure what to ask about this loss but just sending it

[tropic summit]

oh ye mixed up T2 and T1, that's strange indeed but feels like team died to anisTT funzies, that team can be 3RL on CS%

[tidal lichen]

i cant imagine a scenario where 1 loses, no helm or bisc on moran

link should perish after first shot since vesti is fire

[tidal lichen]

no way moran tanks a full shot solo

[tropic summit]

trina died and siren didn't stun?

[hybrid fox]

I sent u in dms

[tidal lichen]

could be

[hybrid fox]

current def

[tropic summit]

send them here i don't DM

[hybrid fox]

😭 expose

[mystic rain]

like u dont have aoe to deal with bisc invul

cindy didnt burst

if u proc invul on anis and noah early u win

[tropic summit]

there's nothing to expose, they all know with 1 match

[hybrid fox]

yeah

[mystic rain]

bisc lived long enough after noah shield so once shield is down she still has 1 charge to give to noah

[charred quail]

The goal was to get anis the burst

[mystic rain]

u mean indom on anis? it worked out properly

[gritty ridge]

Morning rail

[tropic summit]

need to pop both biscuit stacks pre FB, your team lacks p2 damage

[mystic rain]

issue is ur 10 sec indom got stalled by 10 sec of invul from bisc

[tropic summit]

give ur team a splasher so you pop both stacks early then you can win during FB

[charred quail]

[quaint granite]

Hes awake!

[tropic summit]

gonna grab pizza brb

[quaint granite]

[covert lintel]

Can we backshot that team with rh burst?

[charred quail]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/cake-slice-grab-greedy-hungry-gif-4501560

[swift mango]

no

[versed mesa]

What in the heck is my CA group??

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-18373454142993049194

[umbral crown]

But but

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-treacle-people-treacle-people-treacle-puppet-funny-gif-8584668483462457731

[umbral crown]

I know sebas

[umbral crown]

A secret

[versed mesa]

2 Day1 giga union players and one extra giga union player on top

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/sdg-gif-15708554301777825566

[umbral crown]

I DM with rail the secret cooks of @shell hazel

[umbral crown]

Mucho wheel

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-out-gif-18252480

[umbral crown]

Now you have to do the thing

[versed mesa]

Not the THING

NOT THE THING!

[umbral crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1384443397116530758/8788.gif

[unique mountain]

There is a doro

[charred quail]

@tropic summit won cause splasher(vesti) popped biscuit stacks?

[hybrid fox]

soo uhh

meow?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-pokemon-shinji-slap-mad-gif-16869523

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noo-nooo-noooo-nooooo-gif-5463928

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/judge-objection-overruled-gif-15995657

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-but-but-why-yeah-yup-gif-17916536

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/gods-will-dean-winchester-jensen-ackles-supernatural-gods-plan-gif-20385076

[versed mesa]

Quick glance at team orders too... Even if I have a good matchup against one, another one has the counter in that slot

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-dean-winchester-cry-i-cant-even-gif-21653382

Oh well... Can always go lower Currently rank 3123 in the totals for all seasons

[mint fog]

Looking to do defence and attack teams for spa

[arctic jewel]

Playing with big boys

[versed mesa]

I can't even win when I am the big boy... Why am I here? Just to suffer?

[gritty ridge]

Are you?

[placid bloom]

time to become big girl

[gritty ridge]

[mint fog]

I can do this I guess?

[placid bloom]

look for solution

[gritty ridge]

This is not 2rl

Use nikke.deck

[versed mesa]

nikke.top

[gritty ridge]

If hes a beginner deck is better

Also deck is way less of a hassle

[mystic rain]

top is information overload

[tropic summit]

defense can do, attack is based on what you facing, although i guess if you don't know what to run there's a few general purpose attack teams

[mystic rain]

even deck is information overload esp for newcomers

[lusty gull]

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-gif-12955705329524728485

[mystic rain]

wtf is an rl 🗣️ 🗣️

[tropic summit]

tbf what they need to do is notice that 2 comes before 3, doesn't necessarely take a genius

[gritty ridge]

Hello bas7ial nikke deck creator

[mint fog]

definitely going for general purpose here, am super out of meta.

[lusty gull]

[mystic rain]

nikke players something something cant read

[versed mesa]

Dude I've been here for 6 months, I still barely understand deck, top makes so much more sense to me

[mystic rain]

XD

[tropic summit]

correct, you didn't get mitigated or stalled, no biscuit stacks after noah shield means your indom has plenty of time to wipe

[tropic summit]

k taking a look

[mint fog]

I posted my box somewhere above.

[forest zodiac]

broke my face against this yesterday and it still stands in rookie, please elp

[arctic jewel]

But... but... but...
3 is a higher number than 2, the bigger the better, right???

[gritty ridge]

No

Play golf

[mint fog]

@tropic summit This was my old comps.

[arctic jewel]

I also know that 1 + 1 = 11

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT helmT drakeT emilia
• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT
• moran noise lib swha noah

[mint fog]

i presume rosanna is meta in pvp, gonna start investing in some gear for her.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-helm-nikke-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-9863113475501277000

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[tropic summit]

ye these need updating

[swift mango]

1x1=1.1

[arctic jewel]

🤓

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/bogu-39daph-poggers-gif-5938921586812542775

[versed mesa]

If I have 10 apples and Jimmy takes one, how many apples do I have? 10 because I am not effing sharing my apples with Jimmy!

[arctic jewel]

😍 😍 😍 😍 😍

[tropic summit]

SP arena (def)

• jackal scarlet xmaiden blanc laplaceT
• nayuta anisTT privT emilia helmT
• moran siren swha noah biscuit

[forest zodiac]

may I ask for some assistance with this please

[swift mango]

[arctic jewel]

🤯

[arctic jewel]

That's sooo smuuurt

[swift mango]

Zero because Jimmy punch you unconscious before eating everything

[gritty ridge]

Indom scar beat label

[versed mesa]

I'd like to see Jimmy try

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-shapiro-wake-up-richard-buff-muscles-gif-21717970

[tropic summit]

SP arena general purpose attack teams

• swha blanc rh centi jackal
• scarlet trina siren helmt rumani
• anisTT noah privT biscuit laplaceT

Notes

• build up vestiTU so you can replace lappy and can afford running vestiTU indoms instead of only scarlet and SWHA

[gritty ridge]

Thats why Im running indom scar

[sinful iris]

against a similar team, i used these teams
scarlet vestiTU emilia/laplaceT trina jackal
anisTT blanc cindy biscuit midhara
nayuta anisTT helmt swha trina

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-android17-dodging-gif-13850208

[forest zodiac]

any of 3 should work? no emilia\lapT

[swift mango]

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit I found my snipers group in CA, he made top-32 last season

[quaint granite]

[tropic summit]

anisTT and her war crime of making B2 siren resistant

[mint fog]

wait little mermaid?

[sinful iris]

try any of 3, depends on your/opponents investments, starnis blanc is the default cancer team in rookie now

[tropic summit]

here's why

[forest zodiac]

balnc cindy survived, seemed okaish

[tropic summit]

[forest zodiac]

thanks for help

[versed mesa]

My sniper has Emilia

[sinful iris]

np man

[quaint granite]

Building railroads for more peak combos

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fix-it-fast-tamping--k01KS8DPPFMEGKCJJEXMD5VFW2A

[mint fog]

moran use defence or tempering?

[versed mesa]

All roads lead to AnisTT

[forest zodiac]

damn, it was incosistent actualy

[quaint granite]

https://giphy.com/gifs/siren-nikke-doro-56ORQJotTBbRJ0yuuR

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit welp

[forest zodiac]

and team 3 with nayuta lost too

[tropic summit]

tempering

[quaint granite]

Tempuraaa

[tropic summit]

the next step is running anisTT indom variant

anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
vestiTU tempering
biscuit vigor
helmT vigor

[mint fog]

can't tell what siren did there, how did she survive? And what killed scar, helm, noah???

[tropic summit]

siren is stunning noah and prevented their anti nuke to activate which lets scarlet wipe the rest of the team

[marble saddle]

i tried a 2nd one with RH again but ok ill look at the 3rd attempt with that

[sinful iris]

yeah against the cancer team it is 50 50, if no biscuit you can straight up nuke
i've experimented mirror/slower indom etc. but its usually 50 50

[tropic summit]

this was not crit dependant?

iirc it wasn't consistent because of that

if it suddenly became consistent all gud

[mint fog]

put tempering on biscuit, or another quantum?

[tropic summit]

vigor on biscuit

[marble saddle]

ill still take a look at the new one you posted

[tropic summit]

ye worth a shot if it's consistent, anisTT and vestiTU should be enough to pop stacks

careful on deficit as always

[versed mesa]

Okay not a fluke it seems. One of my old main rivals can't even make Top 4 in whatever bracket he was shuffled into since he isn't making it to CA anymore

[charred quail]

how do i test in rookie arena? most of the ppl in rooki ebracket are running biscuit noah or a variation that is similiar

It's the same teams

[marble saddle]

barely out of deficit. Anis is no where near OL stacked. You still think i should go with it?

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit What do you think? The sniper hasn't logged in for over 20 hours, I think he actually does intend to snipe again with his remaining ticket. I was thinking that unless he logs in and hits me before there is 10-15 minutes left until reset, to change to the newer defense and then hopefully he can't cook a counter in that time. Or if he actually doesn't even log in, switch back to the old after reset rolls over?

[tropic summit]

what do you mean anisTT isn't built?

she's core in pve and pvp

[marble saddle]

shes not cooperating

[hollow lagoon]

every one has better rolls than me

[tropic summit]

you've 2 choices:

• you let him practice again against your winning def
• you let him snipe you snipe back let him hit you again and then run new def, so he has less attempts to clear it

if i were you i'd just let him snipe, he has less attempts to clear ur winning def

[marble saddle]

you forgot the option

[hollow lagoon]

maybe we poach @marble saddle one day to our cause

[tropic summit]

@versed mesa or even better run a 3rd def, equip this

• nayuta anisTT helmT drakeT emilia/laplaceT
• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc emilia/laplaceT (vestiTU linked, lowest HP in link)
• moran siren swha noah biscuit

[marble saddle]

so you think i go with the anis comp? or is she too weak to survive?

[versed mesa]

Emilia...

[tropic summit]

if you're not in deficit it's fine, she's 4OL'ed and SR15 at least ye?

[tropic summit]

run lappy in T1 and a clipSG in T2 that has more HP than vestiTU

[marble saddle]

yes 4 oled and sr 15

[tropic summit]

she's fine, go for it

record

[hollow lagoon]

ill have good ols one day

just never today

[marble saddle]

wtf happened? i misindomed???

i think my helm got lower hp cause of his scarlet
or was that something you planned for rail?

[versed mesa]

I'll put this in the back pocket, I'll see what I'll do, still some time before reset. I'll see if he does pop in before then

[tropic summit]

the funny thing of that team is that it doesn't matter who you indom

there's 3 sources of DPS that are all fine if indommed

[marble saddle]

damn.....

[tropic summit]

it's one of the most cancerous teams of rookie for a reason

[hollow lagoon]

i wanna win in pvp too

[tropic summit]

highly suggest you don't run it on def @marble saddle

cuz the entire bracket will run it

[marble saddle]

im not suicidal

[hollow lagoon]

i'mma run it

[tropic summit]

either way time to look for a party to do the coop raid

[marble saddle]

just cause i discovered nuclear energy does not mean i want to share it with Iran

[hollow lagoon]

where were you when i pinged the union for coooop

[tropic summit]

at work

[hollow lagoon]

wok

[marble saddle]

prob watching AKE livestream

[hollow lagoon]

ur evil

https://tenor.com/view/defeat-me-win-lose-a-day-may-come-aragorn-gif-16599762272633184369

[marble saddle]

not as much as you

[hollow lagoon]

i;m the most purest thing there is on this planet

im so pure i dont even have sanity

[marble saddle]

yeah pure ||Evil||

[hollow lagoon]

which union is this evil thing again?

erolive

if u read it in reverse tis evilore

@marble saddle u evil

[marble saddle]

you called?

[hollow lagoon]

i have 0

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon

[marble saddle]

thats why you arent called evil ore

[tropic summit]

did you ever cook wok

looks yummy

[marble saddle]

hello neighbor

[hollow lagoon]

my server rival's union

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

he probably will, pretty consistent with his time tables

[versed mesa]

Yeah probably, just confused since he logs out for such long treks, he has even missed an entire day once

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit we will defeat @marble saddle one day

being able to stalk other people's union is so convinent

[tropic summit]

need to recruit the @glad meteor

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret so the internet issues were because a wire got cut in our area so I'm stuck with data until tomorrow when the isp fixes that. I cant believe he came to my country and cut my whole internet just because we bully him in arena

[tropic summit]

he's zant if he was f2p

[hollow lagoon]

[pure moss]

I'm using this for CA

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kids-dad-dL5qLAlhMn3va

@glad meteor

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/plug-shoebody-bop--k01KS8FVN93GQXB95QRGDYRKW08

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/zIwIWQx12YNEI

u sure u aint gonna indom trina?

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-demon-star-gif-27261730

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jacksparrow-johnnydepp-pirate-spooky-magic-gif-11075885606474700306

[minor egret]

His arena grudge deepen, he's in our walls now

[hidden mortar]

[versed mesa]

The fiber installers will be in our walls next week

[glad meteor]

[charred quail]

on one of your old messages, why is the team at the bottom beating a biscuitless noah?
@tropic summit

testing against someone in spa and im seeing a team noah with no biscuit

[versed mesa]

You don't have to have biscuit, but it is way more risky

[tropic summit]

this one may be invest dependant, as we had inconsistency with p2 surviving both vestiTU and SWHA pressure, but in most cases it should result in double buff SWHA, which is lethal on biscuitless noah moran archetypes

there's another option which involves deleting noah, we ran it yesterday

@charred quail here's the other option

#pvp-arena message

starting at 0:25ish

[charred quail]

downloaded the recording

[versed mesa]

Noir was clipSG right?

[placid bloom]

yes

[glacial haven]

Hey Rail. Here's the result for you defense comp you provided me yesterday.

[tropic summit]

the fact it took people 2 attempts is passing grade i guess

[charred quail]

noah is in p5. to delete the noah, move vesti to p4?

[tropic summit]

this is a whole different story

there's stun pressure and pre burst pressure, also no DR just anti nuke

[charred quail]

oh. i havent tested yet. thinking of what teams to cook for this spa. you made one for me last time but if i use it again i wont learn

[glacial haven]

I bet the first attempt was a blind shot. That's why it failed.

[tropic summit]

rather than blind shot probably didn't know what the teams were doing

[tropic summit]

you need resistant p1 p2 p3, a 2RL and possibly trade with an indom

anisTT teams also generally don't let slow teams survive so you can discard slow cindy

[glacial haven]

That too. Wonder if I could at least hold for a day my defense. But honestly, it's asking too much to be on challenger 3. (I know I'm only there because of the nice people around here is lending a hand to help me out)

[charred quail]

👍 . Can we go back to theory crafting in nikke deck when i get an understanding of pvp?

[tropic summit]

it's not theory tho, you've literally the opponent in your face

things you should notice time 0:

1. no biscuit, p1 single B1
2. can be punished because no DR or stalling, enemy is just anti nuke glass cannon

[candid cradle]

Guys... I have a problem 🤣 seems like vestiTU doesn't get jumping jackal buff
I don't know why, the other day it was different 🤔

[versed mesa]

Co-op will be suspended because of bug Freebies inc!

[glacial haven]

Oh really?

[tropic summit]

jumping jackal goes to the 2 units with highest atk% in the team, OL included

[versed mesa]

Just saw the news notification ingame just popped in game-news channel too

[candid cradle]

So I have to get some ol lines right? 🥲

[placid bloom]

co-op currency compensation is not that useful though

[glacial haven]

Nice. I was about to do the coop right now. You came in clutch.

[placid bloom]

shop is too limited

[tropic summit]

no you just use different units with her

[versed mesa]

Yeah for sure go get the daily cores

[candid cradle]

Like what? 😮

[versed mesa]

I take everything and anything they give us

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[tropic summit]

• jackal vestiTU flex blanc flex

e.g.

• jackal vestiTU rumani blanc laplaceT
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc swha
• jackal vestiTU cinderella blanc drakeT
  ...

[glacial haven]

Yep. Already done.

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-which-one-kermit-frog-gif-9676077

[glacial haven]

Again man. Thx for the heads up;

[versed mesa]

Okay yeah closes on reset so 45 min or so left

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-dont-know-Utg--k01KS8HRDQEP5N5BPFX4WQZD85N

[quaint granite]

Prepare to snipe!

[glacial haven]

I freaking love that wallpaper...

[haughty mortar]

I friggen love HER

[glacial haven]

Who doesn't??

[haughty mortar]

Imagine this is every woman?

[candid cradle]

Xmaiden and Laplace are not invested, rumani, swha and drake are used in other teams
My team right now is jackal vesti Ada, Blanc and Emilia
Ada and Emilia stole jumping jackal buff
Shall I use cindy instead of Emilia? Emilia has the highest atk right now

I have also noise that has pretty high CP but I don't know which unit works best in this team

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU cindy blanc emilia

give emilia vigor and vestiTU tempering

[candid cradle]

What cube for Cindy?

[tropic summit]

vigor/tempering

[candid cradle]

Thanks

[glacial haven]

It's all in the eyes...

[haughty mortar]

Which ones?

[glacial haven]

The higher ones.

[charred quail]

i meant what we were doing a few days ago but i wasnt actually learning cause it wasnt real matches

[tropic summit]

nothing beats real matches

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-scarlet-stellar-blade-get-real-gif-1027170010749018028

[tropic summit]

also rookie isn't a good practice place, best place is SP arena against similar or slightly deficit disavantage against opponent @charred quail

the only time rookie is useful is if they're running non-rookie only teams

and rookie got ruined already plenty with anisTT

it is a good place to practice if you're a real beginner, you're theoretically past that

[haughty mortar]

I love me some photorealism

[candid cradle]

Wait I'm stupid
I forgot to swap cubes in shooting range 🤦🏻‍♀️ that's why vesti couldn't get jumping jackal
So I guess I don't need to swap Ada for Cindy anymore ahah

Sorry

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven change your SP def to this btw, since it was cleared

[versed mesa]

Her chest grows like 3 sizes in SB

[glacial haven]

Done.

[charred quail]

is the info from one of the stuff you gave? im having trouble recalling pvp information 💀

[glacial haven]

Tomorrow, I show you the results. Maybe it would be same as today. Spend one to see how it works, and after that, a proper attempt. (Fingers crossed they will fail their attempt)

[candid cradle]

What's the best team for rookie arena? Both atk and def team

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit bruh

[versed mesa]

Yup, showed up online hasn't done anything yet though. I think I'm going for this team

[tropic summit]

sometimes your questions concern me

[tropic summit]

do it already

[glacial haven]

Kaya is the smol Scarlet.

[charred quail]

it also concerns me rail

[versed mesa]

Anything noteworthy on cubes?

[tropic summit]

this goes back to basics:

1. find any weak link

what is a weak link?

• team can be SG'ed (single B1 in p1)
• team is not running stall/biscuit, can be indommed
• team is running anti nuke without stalling/biscuit, can be indomed
• team is too slow: can be nuked
• team is running stunnable noah: stun her
  ... etc etc

it's like you taking a look at how to tackle a problem, the first thing you do in order is running it through all the easy solutions first

[charred quail]

bruh. when in doubt, go back to basics?

[versed mesa]

Yo. 9.6 million cp total with that defense team

[tropic summit]

not even doubt, it's the things you should notice within seconds

clearly the less experienced you are the more time you need, but some things are reeeeeally obvious

sometimes you make good decisions but skip the simple things for example

[shell hazel]

Zlaw is hiding from us

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/frodo-keep-your-secrets

[swift mango]

I'm beginner

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-cast-it-fire-destroy-it-lotr-gif-16208495

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lethal-company-36

[charred quail]

kek. i dont why im having so much issues remembering these simple stuff

[tropic summit]

must be the influence of this guy @gritty ridge

teaching you bready shiet

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-walk-backpack-gif-2773589718876438879

[marble saddle]

keep your friends close
keep your hippo's closer

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[charred quail]

would it be good if i keep referring back to this link you gave yesterday?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gnpYPl5Y9WvuovQtOOsClrgHW4GnXdu3qrEPigjZuqM/edit?gid=1749569836#gid=1749569836

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/defeat-me-win

[shell hazel]

just write it into your ai readme.md file

[tropic summit]

possibly, planning to add more beginner and advanced friendly stuff to it once i get in the mood

[versed mesa]

Really curious if the guy will cook to beat that team or not

[tropic summit]

keripo also mentioned he'll do his pvp overview vid around july

[swift mango]

2030

[versed mesa]

He has 15 minutes

[tropic summit]

yeah he did not mention the year now that i think about it

[versed mesa]

Got a synchro level up to 742

Dude it was outpost claims

No boxerino

[tropic summit]

🐳

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-are-you-trying-to-hurt-my-feelings-my-feelings-regenerate-at-twice-the-speed-of-a-normal-mans-gif-25571145

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

[tropic summit]

[marble saddle]

reminder:
Coop mode ending on <t:1779479999:F> or <t:1779479999:R>

[charred quail]

do you think it might be cause im still having issues building teams if i dont look at your examples and then i just blank out when trying to identify what counters what?

[tropic summit]

how long have you been actively playing pvp

as in, SP arena

[charred quail]

2 days

[tropic summit]

what were you doing before?

just auto'ing?

[charred quail]

doing nothing

asking for you to cook teams

[tropic summit]

well then i think you got your answer

[shell hazel]

ummmm

https://tenor.com/view/neo-neo-kung-fu-i-know-kung-fu-kung-fu-matrix-gif-21409172

[tropic summit]

you're waaaaaaay too young to worry about lacking experience

[charred quail]

just cook random bs and then ask for your input etc?

[versed mesa]

I actually climbed and held top 3 for over 6 months without even knowing this channel was here

[tropic summit]

i think you know roughly know the basics, you understand burst speed, you understand classic archetypes

[charred quail]

ill follow this guideline at least when cooking random bs?

(1) Speed
The team that bursts faster generally has the advantage against the slower team. Hence, units that have high burst gen are extremely valuable. In the current SPA PvP Meta, 2RL is the standard speed that your pvp teams should be. Hence, use the pvp deck builder to ensure that your teams are at this speed threshold.

(2) Core Dmg Dealer and (3) Buffers
You want your main dmg dealer to do sufficient dmg to wipe the opponent. This can be a single instant nuke (e.g. Scarlet), or a dmg over time (e.g. Scarlet Black Shadow). We will generally pair our dmg dealer with at least 1 buffer to ensure that sufficient dmg is dealt (e.g. Scarlet + Trina). If you decide to use other nukers like Bunny Soda, Maid Privaty, Ein, SAnis, Noir etc, these units generally require two buffers and often still deal insufficient dmg to the opponents. Liberalio, VestiTU and Cinderella are notable exceptions where their nukes are strong enough to wipe even without buffers.
Additionally, your opponent can also be running a dmg-reduction or HP-buffing unit like Moran, Noise or Nero. Hence against these opponents, we need additional buffers to ensure that we deal sufficient damage. A good heuristic is that 1 dmg-reduction unit negates a single buffer. E.g. If our team is a Scarlet + RH vs opponent Noise + Cindy, RH's B1 dmg buff is reduced by Noise's max HP buff, and hence Scarlet can no longer 1-hit KO. So always ensure that your nuker(s) is appropriately buffed.

(4) Utility Units
These are more gimmicky units that add additional flavour to our teams often at the expense of burst gen. E.g. Blanc's Indom, Siren and Soda's stun, Bay's shield, Nayuta's Indom, Mana's revive, Rosanna's nuke etc. As SPA teams become faster and faster, gimmick B1 and B2 units will gradually become more important.

[tropic summit]

you now need to apply that knowledge and earn experience

[versed mesa]

Pure trial and error, some prydwen guides

[tropic summit]

it's like studying for something practical

theory will do something but actually doing it will prove more rewarding

[charred quail]

right. it's like when i studied for my cpa exams

[tropic summit]

go hit SP arena

and start struggling

if you're stuck in high ranks without competition purposedly make ur team weak and fall lower

then fight without gapping

that also works as experience

@versed mesa what's his last login time

[charred quail]

im in c8 so not really that high?

[tropic summit]

are opponents on top hittable?

[versed mesa]

9 minutes

[tropic summit]

he's there

[versed mesa]

Ye

[tropic summit]

move around ur def without changing them

keep doing it until reset

[charred quail]

looks hittable except c1

[gaunt pulsar]

hit rookie not to win but to test

[tropic summit]

ye ch6-ch5-ch4 seems like good practice

are you able to beat those on your own so far?

[charred quail]

what do i do about some pvp units not being invested? dont worry about it? also some batteries dont have any ol

[charred quail]

no. i only beat them cause you cooked

[tropic summit]

perfect, you know your next target

beat those on your own, if you fail twice against the same opponent, hit this chat

hand on practice is best

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/richard-attenborough-whip-whipped-whiplash-whiplashed-gif-16890874512241116786

[charred quail]

there is no test when every1 is running the same teams

[shell hazel]

best training is to come up with teams (use deck builder to check the team speeds) - and look at what opponent is running

and then to record/watch it back a bit if you lose to see why

[gaunt pulsar]

there gotta be some lower sync players that dont use what top uses

[tropic summit]

and ask for feedback with the record if you don't understand

video gives us a lot of info to help you figure out what went wrong

CS%, speed, damage, situational invest

[versed mesa]

[tropic summit]

there you go

gottem

[shell hazel]

most important to know how to check the cp deficit as well

[tropic summit]

now swap back to your beaten def and keep 2nd def and 3rd def around @versed mesa

[shell hazel]

a lot of people don't

[charred quail]

lower sync are significantly lower. also doesnt reflect spa teams since rookie only has 1 team

[versed mesa]

Done

[charred quail]

i do remember that from rail somehow.

CP is calculated to apply penalty or not, multiply enemy team CP for 0.846, if your team is above that value there's no penalty, if it's below you start getting penalty

[shell hazel]

yes

[tropic summit]

💯

[versed mesa]

I do wonder what made him lose, just not good enough counters or if the shuffling actually made him attack wrong teams

[tropic summit]

the other def i gave you is a bit evil

🐒 might struggle at first against anti nuke and stun pressure combined

[versed mesa]

Internet just cut out for a bit Good thing it happened after reset and not before

WHAT

Oh nvm I thought he attacked again already and lost

[tropic summit]

he has 2 attempts now

sit and wait

[versed mesa]

Because he logs off for over 20 hours all the time, he doesn't realise I am off myself for like 14-16 hours. He could easily take my spot while I sleep

[tropic summit]

hold on i'm telling him right now in korean

[versed mesa]

Is he korean? Aren't those chinese letters?

[gaunt pulsar]

you not testing in rookie on how to beat specific team you testing how to counter mechanics or units, or how to use something. there plenty stuff to play around with even against a bad teams because you aren't forced to outspeed your enemy, reduce your own power to learn something, align your speed if needed to see the results you expect to see.
but i understand that it might be hard depending on how extremely bad some comps might be or sync of the players... it's just i find it hard to believe that there only copycats in your rookie

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

just type in wingdings

[versed mesa]

Maybe he knows both

[shell hazel]

it's the universal symbol language

[tropic summit]

simplified chinese it is

[shell hazel]

chinnit or korean boi? 😄

[drifting spear]

How stupid of an idea is it to use silver mileage to get extra copies of Noah?

[versed mesa]

That is what I did

Core 7 BABY

[drifting spear]

I've been playing long enough now I have a majority of regular Nikke at mlb. I've only ever gotten the one copy of the little gremlin

[shell hazel]

I had multiple noah cores from silver mileage

[versed mesa]

I kept getting a copy like every 3 months or so, but then dried up and after Goddess Fall event, I got the final 3 cores with mileage

[shell hazel]

no regrets if you pvp some

[versed mesa]

Strongest shield deserves it

[drifting spear]

Maybe I'll shoot for 3 copies for mlb just in case they decide to favorite item someone who I'm lacking copies of.

[charred quail]

either they have the same teams or i have an extremely large sync gap on someone that doesnt run a noah comp

[drifting spear]

@versed mesa Absolutely true. Yeah, you convinced me

[versed mesa]

Also I have mlb on every day 1 nikke anyway so

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit lets you find your chinnit in blabla - what union are they in/union id?

[tropic summit]

[charred quail]

my sync is 496

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel find these 3

[shell hazel]

nikunny I def have

[drifting spear]

Nikkuny but a Viper portrait

[tropic summit]

the chinnit in text: 世外桃源

[drifting spear]

Hah

[shell hazel]

2. https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMjcwMDYyMDM1ODIwMTg1MDkwOA==

guild id for other 2?

[shell hazel]

1. https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTgyNzI0NTYzODY2NzI3NDc1MjE=

[haughty mortar]

How do I beat rumani in this comp?

[shell hazel]

nekopon is too pedestrian I don't have it fully, need to add a one off poll for it

[charred quail]

learning going to be slow cause there is only 2 hits a day?

[swift mango]

it's a very standard line up.

actually worse than zant.

[haughty mortar]

And how does swapping Ada and Vesti positions affect combat?

[swift mango]

kinda feel stupid for not using Rosa this season. Couldn't be helped I didn't have time to recook to slot her in,

[versed mesa]

I changed to that anistt/Noah/helmT/bisc/swha defense on rookie. The guy who always does his hits right after reset, usually on me since I'm the highest he can beat. He won 4 but lost the 5th

[wild vine]

Is anis star good for pvp?

[quaint granite]

SSS tier

[wild vine]

Ok then

[quaint granite]

She broke the scale

[versed mesa]

Is the sky blue? Is water wet? Scientifically, they are not, but in common language speak, yes!

[wild vine]

The weight scale

rekt

[haughty mortar]

They are blue in the ways that matter, and we can scientifically explain why they look blue.

[hollow lagoon]

[haughty mortar]

Also, please help

[swift mango]

is you wet?

[versed mesa]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waltergotme--k01KQB0H8ED77PAV1X9K7MGWBQA

[haughty mortar]

Would something like this work?

[swift mango]

moran+Noah+Biscuit+Helm+Crowm

[tropic summit]

damn you're a ninja

[haughty mortar]

Crown?

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/theninja77123-gif-8009537136196829283

[haughty mortar]

Can you please give me the rundown?

[swift mango]

Slower team to block Ada first charge nuke. Moran buffed tank everything.

[haughty mortar]

Everysink?

[swift mango]

and nayuta or Mast instead of crown is the same thing.

[haughty mortar]

Here is the thing. T2 wins. If I were to cannibalize then T2 will have to change.

[tropic summit]

is this you @jagged mesa

[haughty mortar]

Yes

[tropic summit]

good then i'm not responsible this time

[haughty mortar]

He is at work leave the man to it! 👷🏻

[swift mango]

Vesti+Blanc+RH+AnisTT+Jackal

[tropic summit]

he can blame blood instead

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[haughty mortar]

Is Sister bloody?

[shell hazel]

the nekopon guy prob not in blabla yet

[tropic summit]

i actually have him

[shell hazel]

in blabla?

[tropic summit]

don't remember how i found him but i did long ago @shell hazel

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTQ1MDU0NjUwMTU5OTU1MzM3MTc=&openid=MjkwODAtMTQ1MDU0NjUwMTU5OTU1MzM3MTc=

[versed mesa]

Is Nero expensive to build?

[tropic summit]

as expensive as buying a new house

[haughty mortar]

Should Nero be built?

[versed mesa]

I have her at Core 7 but she doesn't even have manu gear So I think I'm gonna skip

[haughty mortar]

Is this for T2?

[swift mango]

now we do team 3 as well.

Scar+Soda+Trina+SW+LapT
Rapu+Scar+Trina+SW+LapT

[swift mango]

yes

[haughty mortar]

I don't have rapunzel or cindy (just sayin)

[shell hazel]

I helped you find someone else once, maybe he skipped last UR which is why I can't see em

[tropic summit]

what a casual

skipping UR and shiet

fake chinnit

his parents would be ashamed

[shell hazel]

that whole union is super casual 4%

[versed mesa]

More casual than mine? How is that possible?

[shell hazel]

you gotta be super brain-dead if your union reasonable sync and can't 3% though

[hollow lagoon]

@versed mesa

https://giphy.com/gifs/kids-dad-dL5qLAlhMn3va

[haughty mortar]

What is a good replacement for Rapu?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/simpsons-homer-21

@versed mesa ^

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-theoden-king-of-rohan-you-have-no-power-here-gif-4952489

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/macho-testosterone-1

[hollow lagoon]

i think the lads are trying to brain wash convince @glad meteor tho

[tropic summit]

one day we'll get him

[versed mesa]

Only thing that would make me quit the union that I MADE, would be if I lose so many people that we stop clearing normal UR day 1

[tropic summit]

also, it's over @hollow lagoon , i've the low ground

[swift mango]

Also, could go

Noise+Bay+Privaty+SW+Rosa for team 3.

[tropic summit]

good luck expecting sorter to have rosanna and bay invested

hell i dunno if he even has noise invested

[haughty mortar]

Not sure if this will win

[versed mesa]

Noise is my 5th highest cp, I would like to get her back in a defense team at some point

[haughty mortar]

Bay not OL

[tropic summit]

how do you calculate deficit? we told you how to

[quaint granite]

Never was

[haughty mortar]

Rosanna has gear and OL. Haven't gotten to Bay yet. Still working on Neon

[tropic summit]

what's rosanna atk% and ele%

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/maomao-didn't-ask-apothecary-diaries-kusuriya-no-hitorigoto-cope-gif-3655130573742117242

[versed mesa]

About 60k cp in deficit

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-apothecary-diaries-16

[haughty mortar]

That is why I am saying. I am deep in the hole.

[hollow lagoon]

I sync up once today too, I’ll defeat you one day

[tropic summit]

answer le question.

[haughty mortar]

0.846* CP

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/defeat-me-win-lose-a-day-may-come-aragorn-gif-16599762272633184369

[tropic summit]

💯

[haughty mortar]

YES SENSEI!

[tropic summit]

he's learning

[versed mesa]

me too 742, come on join me!

[haughty mortar]

I haven't forgotten this

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spyxfamily-spy-x-family-9

[hollow lagoon]

Strugggggle

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-anime-star-eyes-suprised-excited-gif-4163857674141447176

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel @glad meteor you see this shiet? how does he do this

[haughty mortar]

Please Rail-sensei! What can I do to win?

[versed mesa]

Or the reverse divide your team CP with 0.846 so you see the limit for enemy teams before you are in deficit

[glad meteor]

Whels

[hollow lagoon]

I wipe out at 70 gem cost

[tropic summit]

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-no-noooo-gif-7347380959994097336

[tropic summit]

BS, that's not nearly enough

[hollow lagoon]

I last synced like 4-5 days ago…..

[wild vine]

SP (DEF) Can someone rework my teams a little some losers are beating me
Nayuta/Trina/Helm/RH/Emilia
Noise/Siren/SnowWhite:HA/Laplace/Noah
Jackal/VestiTAC/Blanc/Centi/Drake

[tropic summit]

yet you're 4 parallel sync dimensions ahead of me

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-nuh-uh-wesker-no-resident-evil-for-reese-gif-27226247

[haughty mortar]

Wouldn't dealing with T3 be easier than dealing with T2 at this point? Even though my old team won?

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

post your box or blabla link set to public

[haughty mortar]

Does changing T1 really need cannibalizing T2?

[hollow lagoon]

I need my sync because my ol lines suck, if you need 621 to clear Alturia I need 641

[wild vine]

Ok as soon as i figure out how ill be back haha

[shell hazel]

this isn't his limit he is hiding crates

[haughty mortar]

I am shooting my shot. At least I'll know.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fedecks-gif-24050085

[hollow lagoon]

[haughty mortar]

OK Ash got kicked down anyway by someone else!

[tropic summit]

blood gave you good hints tho

• you need slower indom or moran biscuit stall against T1
• you need a blanc team or blanc liberalio for T2
• p2 is vulnerable here, wind code and feeds... which means...

your main problem then is going to stack the teams enough to avoid deficit, you COULD do this

[versed mesa]

Seen so many videos of people breaking their ankles doing this

[shell hazel]

you could be a mercenary having both sides paying you

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

holy diver

[tropic summit]

forget crates, @hollow lagoon is hiding 2 bank accounts aswell

[shell hazel]

I mean holy cp gap

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

oh this could be doable

[hollow lagoon]

That’s like what 6 levels?

[tropic summit]

but the CP looks horribru

[hollow lagoon]

Or 8

[haughty mortar]

I know!

I am not even sure if i can do it. Even with Rail-sama's confidence

[versed mesa]

9 levels and my core dust cost will go to 19k per level

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

we could take this

show your blabla link

[hollow lagoon]

Do u believe in religion

[tropic summit]

gonna need to omega pad but might be doable

[haughty mortar]

I'd need 2 teams with 1m CP each

[versed mesa]

Absolutely not. Left the church the moment I turned 18

[tropic summit]

nah we can deficit this

give le link

[haughty mortar]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTA2MjgwNTMxMDc0MzA0Nzk1ODM%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTA2MjgwNTMxMDc0MzA0Nzk1ODM%3D

[tropic summit]

told you, look at this shiet @shell hazel

he's hiding multiple bank accounts i tell you

[haughty mortar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/humpback-whale-onthe12thfloor

[hollow lagoon]

We preach tentacles and fried rice

[haughty mortar]

I love me some tempura

[versed mesa]

Give me and I'll consider it

[tropic summit]

show le CP

anis in T1 is anisTT

[hollow lagoon]

Go away NA scum

[hollow lagoon]

We also preach 🍑

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/muzan-kibutsuji-gif-16448023646886249850

[tropic summit]

HOW

[shell hazel]

2nd bank account

[hollow lagoon]

Event core tries

[tropic summit]

YOU BLINK AND HE'S SUDDENLY 692

https://klipy.com/gifs/this-cant-be-happening-eric-cartman-1

[shell hazel]

yes well two can play at that game

[tropic summit]

just nerf zant

[haughty mortar]

NA NA hoemie

[versed mesa]

You actually intend to pass me, despite me being Day 1

[tropic summit]

don't give him ele ever

he'll break the game and we EoS

[hollow lagoon]

Already weak and struggling against @shell hazel from kicking my ass

[haughty mortar]

This is going to hurt!

[tropic summit]

BS at some point me and @shell hazel score combined will be lower than yours if this keeps up

[hollow lagoon]

How he’s only 1-2b behind me in sr

[tropic summit]

easy win run those

[shell hazel]

i'll defeat you one day @hollow lagoon

[quaint granite]

Once I hit the lottery I'll hit 1000 sync

[placid bloom]

I think if you are sync 1684 you will be safe

[haughty mortar]

Confidence coming from decades of Nikke PVP

[tropic summit]

hold on something looks weird

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wait-a-minute-somethings-aint-right-hold-up-somethings-wrong-here-gif-17361118

[tropic summit]

clearly it's 140% legit

[shell hazel]

we can't promise 140% right. Only 125% right

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thatll-do-it-mitch

[shell hazel]

let's see if zanta can run zanta own comps

[placid bloom]

If you gamble on the new core dust gacha it becomes legit

1 dust turns into 1 million

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gta-gta-sa-486

[shell hazel]

zanta menu B but it's not 2RL on team 3 I don't think?

[upper grove]

@tropic summit look what I found

[tropic summit]

is this MF Ego?

[placid bloom]

With quantum I think it can

[tropic summit]

oh nvm it's altruia still

damn that rail be cheating

[shell hazel]

think it might be another deck/top shenanigans

[shell hazel]

Rail on TV

[versed mesa]

I have this whole order memorised

[tropic summit]

@upper grove i sincerely apologize for anyone who will be baited to run that comp thinking "oh i can run this"

they don't know what they walking into

[haughty mortar]

EZ CLAP! Can you please run the gameplan?

[tropic summit]

TL;DR nayuta moran jackal biscuit funzies

[quaint granite]

I'll run you

[tropic summit]

@charred quail adding you aswell since you wanna learn

what happened here @haughty mortar

T1: jackal nayuta locked team, jackal in p5 gets free burst gen from noir, nayuta in p1 locks down most of enemy team pressure
scarlet being unlinked also helps us, as helmT and RH, who're linked, only hit p5, which is not a linked unit so scarlet can't procc s2, reducing enemy team dmg essentially to p2 and p5, which p5 actually shared for 1/3rd with 3 units

your team is 2RL and will out damage the enemy on FB and multiple buffs, deficit is meaningless here for the enemy

T2:

typical biscuit lock team, on decent buffs and DPS (anisTT + moran buff, SWHA and RRH DPS.). Since we can't afford a proper B2 due to unit limit, biscuit will do just to get you to FB

since you again locked down damage here on p1 and p5, your rest of the team is safe, easy out trade as faster team (essentially 2RL)

[haughty mortar]

SAVED

[upper grove]

huh

[haughty mortar]

So because Jackal is linked with immortal Nayuta, at least for 10 seconds, this allows me to not get insta GG?

[upper grove]

I don't mind

[quaint granite]

I'll gather some onions for you and Rail, Rail needs alot of onions

[versed mesa]

Sniperino logged off for about an hour, but is back on now

[quaint granite]

He did some much here that he needs fresh spring onions too

[quaint granite]

He missed sniping time?

[versed mesa]

Failed snipe

[quaint granite]

Awesome victory

[versed mesa]

Changed to a different rail cook

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-dead-i'm-dying-laughing-laughing-dead-lol-lol-gif-7830811293577250902

[tropic summit]

i gave him the teams to beat you now

[haughty mortar]

That emoji is really sus scary

[tropic summit]

jackal is linked with helmt and rh, she links with the 2 highest atk%, nayuta is standalone p1

nayuta is unkillable as you said for 9s and she makes sure p1 damage is negated
p2 is a flex CP unit, anchorIM, we don't care if she dies
p3 p4 and p5 is your core part of that team, but we need something in p5 to deny enemy noir SG dmg

that's where jackal comes in, with x3 health pool due to link, but also benefits from feed to kick you into faster 2RL

reach 2RL B3 and you're on lifesteal and hyperbuff, easy cleanup

[shell hazel]

@placid bloom worth checking?

[versed mesa]

He did something to his defenses since his cp changed a teeny tiny bit, I do wonder what he might have in store. And he has Emilia cause I saw it on his CA teams

[tropic summit]

it doesn't account for anisTT 6% team wide does it

should mark it 2RL

[placid bloom]

doesn't reach 2RL

[haughty mortar]

Right right, strongest not weakest. Why are P3-5 only attacking P5?

[shell hazel]

way her burst gen works is weird

[tropic summit]

you already checked?

[placid bloom]

yeah, I was wondering if you get reach it with quantum but nope

[haughty mortar]

Also, can you please link me the new PVP arena site?

[tropic summit]

dayum you're right

mana is nuking this team speed

gonna need an helmT instead of trina

grows expensive but runnable in SP arena for example

not as runnable for CA perhaps

actually pretty darn fast with helmT in there

[gritty ridge]

I havent even talked to fish recently

[tropic summit]

the damage is done

[placid bloom]

this Anis burst gen is also a bit off btw, it should be 37.18 with quantum and 35.62 without. I think you are double applying her 6% cs buff

[tropic summit]

he's clearly a bready main now

[gritty ridge]

Did he cook with bready again?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/belly-goddess-of-victory-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-bready-gif-10695317358095181855

[tropic summit]

nah

[placid bloom]

if I double apply I do get 37.26

[hollow lagoon]

Requires 15 cs on jackal

[tropic summit]

who doesn't have 15%CS on jackal

[gritty ridge]

I wonder

[quaint granite]

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-not-this-day-not-today-lord-of-the-rings-gif-14797074

[gritty ridge]

I wonder who doesnt have cs on jackal

[versed mesa]

My jackal has 21% CS

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

I have 15

[gritty ridge]

Shit I forgot to put quantums on my scar team

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3

[haughty mortar]

Gotta lay off dem donuts

[tropic summit]

there goes your champ run

[versed mesa]

Absolutely not Chubby is good

[gritty ridge]

I may genuinly be cooked

[hollow lagoon]

Korean accelerating

@tropic summit I’m struggling against the dying of the light soon

[versed mesa]

You dare doubt my honor?

[tropic summit]

pathetic

[hollow lagoon]

Last I checked he was 527

538 all of a sudden

[tropic summit]

that's edited isn't it

[tropic summit]

he's coming for your buttcheeks

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disgust-ew-the-boys-stabilized-gif-4078424461228351184

[gritty ridge]

That moment when

[tropic summit]

he'll dethrone the throned one

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/suisei-skill-issue-1

as zant would say

[hollow lagoon]

Swha

[gritty ridge]

[gritty ridge]

What

[hollow lagoon]

Swha break slipper

Big mega kaboom lazer

[gritty ridge]

There no slippef

[hollow lagoon]

Tf

[tropic summit]

CC had slippers?

[hollow lagoon]

Oh…….

[shell hazel]

he's still like 2 weeks later than me but 40+ sync behind me though? 😛

[tropic summit]

yeah you need sleep at last @hollow lagoon , too much maldin'

[shell hazel]

korean gotta accounting better

[gritty ridge]

I have the afk team built for mc lol

[haughty mortar]

This is peak

[tropic summit]

nikke eating at your health

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/squishy-cheeky

[hollow lagoon]

Desperate measures it is then

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel please send help

these pictures are hurting me

that number keeps going up

[versed mesa]

He is compensating for what he lacks

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/omg-wow-121

[hollow lagoon]

I first show you pic of me locking 1 hour crates, then I show you when lock the 2 hour crates, now I freed lock from all crates

[tropic summit]

why must you hurt me so

[hollow lagoon]

Btw I don’t keep 12 and 24 hour crates

[versed mesa]

That said licking at first

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/baka-mangobaka-bakamango-mangobae-emfrizzle-gif-20783222

[haughty mortar]

To each their own, but just like biddies, there is a limit to roundness. The closer to this. the Goddess.

[tropic summit]

the perfect genes for many healthy children

[versed mesa]

It's alright, can't be friends with everybody

[haughty mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-d-gif-8300335913966807266

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko

[versed mesa]

To me Bready is perfectly in the I wanna squish those rolls ALL DAY

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-volunteer-3

[haughty mortar]

More like, she'll be the one squishing you. Not in a good way

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/snusnu-futurama-fry-death-death-by-snusnu-gif-16228376

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mia-taylor-sleeping

[hollow lagoon]

Reminder she can levitate

I have a theory that her chest can manipulate gravity

[versed mesa]

Hey I get in my head about this stuff sometimes, but if I have ever said something that upset someone, it is never meant to be taken that way.

[haughty mortar]

Someone got upsetty? Give them some spaghetti.

[tropic summit]

you saying you had 21%CS jackal and then proving it was actually true upsetted me

not sure i can recover from this

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-depressed

[quaint granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1491185146450280712/dorolick.gif

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/makeitstop-i-just-want-it-to-stop-stop-gif-6202313

@placid bloom the extra gen for SR is always 2 right due to cover pierce in general for anis?

[cobalt lotus]

Is there a way to calculate what the ATK is for maxed out (+5 on all overload gear, +7 core) attacker (or defender) at level 400 is

[tropic summit]

you can fix synchro with the slider you see above

sauce: #questions message

[upper grove]

I'm so done with the boss

1 lvl more and I'm still in the 60s hp bar range

all depending on crit fish, I don't want to bother

[tropic summit]

yeah i don't miss those 7 hours i spent min/maxing, although the rewarding feeling of finally clearing it was worth it

in your case you could take ur time just a few synchro away

[shell hazel]

sounds like I will have a great time here

[upper grove]

I just rage rerolled anis

11.11% atk line, boss dies now

[tropic summit]

[upper grove]

now she's 2 atk instead of 1

[upper grove]

once you have true dmg boss isn't that hard, without it, so much mald

[tropic summit]

fun times await you

if anything this boss teaches you about iframing, whether you like it or not

[versed mesa]

@hollow lagoon Are you still around? Did you manage a step 20 on SR museum for Storm Bringer yet? I wondered if you have some teams I could try

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

No

[cobalt lotus]

Is Union shooting range correct for testing jackal link? Result doesn't seem to match what I get from level syncing in blablah

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t like that boss

I don’t try yet

[cedar sorrel]

Yes cuz it also adds in game status changes

[shell hazel]

overloads aren't shown in blabla

gear atk overloads only apply in battle

[versed mesa]

Same was hoping you might've cooked something. Only managed 14 but my teams are real scuffed

[cedar sorrel]

Just make sure u equip the same cubes as u would in pvp

[cobalt lotus]

that all accounted

[tropic summit]

it needs sustain or you actually can die against it iirc

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll give it a go over the weekend just for u

[cobalt lotus]

that is my Moran vs Neon. Moran has 48% atk, Neon has none. (175649-39603)/(124812-26402) is 38%, so Moran should get Jackal link over Neon, but in testing range Neon gets the link

[tropic summit]

cuz atk% OL aren't included

[cobalt lotus]

I did take them into calculation

[versed mesa]

Was thinking it would be good now since he has the weekly buff

[tropic summit]

the dmg calculated in shooting range upon entering adds them

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

[cedar sorrel]

In game buffs and status changes are also not included

Union range is just leading

[tropic summit]

jackal link is applied at start of battle anyway

[hollow lagoon]

I tried it during my 664 era and hated life

[tropic summit]

he can reach B2 or self buffs it won't change

[cedar sorrel]

Yea but chars can get buffs from start too

[versed mesa]

Yeah some of my teams die at some point if I don't specifically add dr or healing

[cedar sorrel]

Just always better to check in union range even if its a bit tedious

[tropic summit]

you speak as if it was almost years ago

[cedar sorrel]

I had this issue as a synch 260~ in hard mode union raid

Mace was actually destroying my team I had to run helmT

[tropic summit]

260 is baby sync afterall

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah I thought atp I could at least survive

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

I managed to do 3 runs where I didnt die tho

Egovista was similar for me too

[versed mesa]

The problem with SB in museum though then is that I have wonky synergy for actually trying to push enough damage

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah u need to juggle not only dmg but also staying alive

And SB is really annoying

U can at least iframe his attacks if u dont play with a taunter semi easily

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

I'm saving rocks now because I badly need to fix my RRH and hopefully Mihara too, she has only like 1 ele and maybe 1 atk

[cedar sorrel]

But youll defo want some sustain like blanc rouge ,nayu +ada/moranT, mmast + manchor that kinda stuff

[cobalt lotus]

Can someone help me figure out what is wrong? Those are the pics of my Moran and Neon. Moran has 49.37% atk, Neon has none. However in union testing range Moran is not getting Jackal linked over Neon. Mathematically Moran should be getting it comfortably as (175649-39603)/(124812-26402) = 1.38

[cedar sorrel]

Unless u can just iframe everything + dont take enough dmg for it to mattee

[hollow lagoon]

@versed mesa I spent my time this week getting ultra to 80

[tropic summit]

lemme summon the experts on linking

@swift mango @worthy knoll @placid bloom

[hollow lagoon]

Positioning

Is Moran p1?

[cobalt lotus]

yes, and she is getting link fine outside union testing range

only when synced to 400 it doesn't work, but mathematically should still be linked

[hollow lagoon]

If you are lower level

[cobalt lotus]

no, I am 455

[hollow lagoon]

Prob cuz gear and NIKKE stat ratio then

[tropic summit]

might be scaling since level is influencing it

but i'd wait for a comment from those above

[cobalt lotus]

I calculated the scaled stats

(in the comment above)

[tropic summit]

merry and blood both messed a lot with links with label

[hollow lagoon]

To be fair label linking is easy

Let’s read neon skilllls again

Nothing pre buffs her

[charred quail]

[hollow lagoon]

@cobalt lotus how are you testing this 400 thing?

Scope lock?

Know that scope lock disable ol stats

[cobalt lotus]

in Union shooting range, with sync turned on

does that turn off OL stats?

[hollow lagoon]

If u mean the forced sync 400 option yes it turns off OL

[formal quiver]

yes sync lock is 10/10/10 no ol

[cobalt lotus]

oh shit

[formal quiver]

the best way to test things for CA is to go in kraken

[cobalt lotus]

didn't know, thanks

[formal quiver]

youre 400 sync locked there

[cobalt lotus]

oh damn... I could have used this jackal link deck for this CA if I knew this /facepalm

[quaint granite]

Sync lock is terrible test

[upper grove]

rail, 30 hp left, I'm so tired

[tropic summit]

good god

that thing really playing hard to get

this is the anisTT crown rrh helmt mmast variant you running ye?