pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

it's a cancer matchup, the anti rookie pvp team because it is only countered by itself or slower indom, which has a lot of conditions

you're best just skipping it unless you wanna min/max on CS% and burst speed

[charred quail]

@tropic summit ima try again. If I put moran in p5, and removed red hood, That counters t1?

[tropic summit]

T1 wants to sacc, you need to prevent them from sacc'ing

SGs team main dmg is on p5

so you can:

1. deny p5 with a nayuta or makima
2. deny partially p5 with a cinderella or with a moran
3. deny entirely with a biscuit lock (it means running p5 + p1 defender with a biscuit in the team)

[versed mesa]

No rocks from Kraken today

[tropic summit]

at that point SGs can't snowball, because they can't kill

and the team turns into an average 3.5RL

this is running again an SG pressure team, so keep in mind what you learned

@charred quail forgot to update T2, fixed with the right unit, logic stays unchanged

[quiet fiber]

I figured as much when the advice is just good luck . I'll take your word for it. Rookie doesn't give enough to warrant min/maxing.

[tropic summit]

you can ask @placid bloom or @tidal lichen if they got time/willpower to give you directions, i'd personally just skip that team, it's boring

team in question: #pvp-arena message

[delicate cove]

would rumani be a better burst 1 for this team?

i heard she sustains and so does frost ticket

[tropic summit]

you don't need soline if you running resistant p1, so you can sub her

[delicate cove]

bet bet i just got her from a mold 5min ago

[quiet fiber]

Yeah, I'd skip.
My resources are too limited to commit.

[tidal lichen]

i send siren to the slow version and 2.5rl vesti bisc to fast version

[tropic summit]

would be the fast version here

that'd be anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT?

[tidal lichen]

jackal blanc vesti bisc helm

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty

[tidal lichen]

or snow instead of helm

[tropic summit]

if you wanna give it a shot @quiet fiber

#pvp-arena message

[tidal lichen]

or lapt idk as long as its 2.5

[quiet fiber]

Sure. I'll give it a try.

[haughty mortar]

Lost that one. Won the first.

[tropic summit]

why not deal with the easier T2?

[shell hazel]

over 5M power

[tropic summit]

you lost T1 i guess?

[haughty mortar]

No T1 wins. T3 lost

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

run T3 against T2

[stuck hearth]

SP and RA. I cant beat this team. what beats it? using my scarlet team to win another rou d

[haughty mortar]

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! 🎉

But why did my team lose vs their T3?

[tropic summit]

it's amazing how T1 wins, i'm guessing they're misindoming

[tropic summit]

i'm thinking CS%, if helmT nukes before privT applies stun it could go wrong

[haughty mortar]

Works for me

[tidal lichen]

blanc it

preferably blanc snow

vesti can struggle with moran

[pulsar forge]

Any recommendations to beat this team? Moran and AnisTT seems to be the last ones standing

[tidal lichen]

blanc vesti

[tropic summit]

for the moran team

• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal

for the nayuta change to

• moran anisTT cindy helmT noah

[tidal lichen]

with ada

[tropic summit]

weak to indom here

[charred quail]

T1: Moran swha centi noah nayuta
T2: Anis vesti blanc biscuit laplaceT

[quiet fiber]

I can't find the team anymore . I'll try the team If i encounter it again.

[tropic summit]

T1 what's nayuta doing? there's only 1 SG. also you're bursting with centi
T2 laplaceT is not a defender, you're letting p5 get penetrated with hard chance of misindom

scrap both teams and retry

[pulsar forge]

Just replace Noah with blanc? Or try nayuta

[tropic summit]

jackal blanc vestiTU ada helmT

[pulsar forge]

Jackal on first spot?

[tropic summit]

she won't die, you're sharing

[pulsar forge]

Rightyo lemme try that cheers

[tropic summit]

record so we can check you pop biscuit on p2 and p3

if they're insanely fast you may not land 3rd rocket in time which could be a problemo

[stuck hearth]

maybe im too bursty? I havent seen it. im piping at work lololol

[tropic summit]

swha is on tempering ye?

[tropic summit]

low ammo vestiTU can't indom mate

you need x2 ammo

speed check was fine but your OLs aren't

[pulsar forge]

I used to beat it with noah swha AnisTT hemlt and Emilia
But this guy full spent on Anis lol

[haughty mortar]

Really?

[pulsar forge]

Oh I see, looks like I'll need to invest more on vestitu

[tropic summit]

would enable to run indom vestiTU which should work against that, it's handy to have her for several other matchups

[stuck hearth]

she was not. but now she is.

[tropic summit]

oke give it a shot, should get her to live to B2

their vestiTU is stacked on atk% so tempering is crucial here

or it could've been crit RNG

[stuck hearth]

sadly still dying

[tropic summit]

closer but not enough indeed

if you've ada built you can run a safer indom

or actually even without ada

• jackal blanc swha biscuit helmT
• jackal blanc swha biscuit laplaceT

[stuck hearth]

sadly dont have ada built. helm on team 2. but maybe my Indom runs out first here

[livid rover]

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[tropic summit]

now you're short on damage

[obsidian tangle]

@tropic summit Do you think I win this? 🤔

[tropic summit]

can you slot helmT or swha in p3 instead of xmaiden? extra pokes on p5 will ensure lethal via rosanna

[stuck hearth]

u see why I hate that comp? always a puzzle

[obsidian tangle]

they are on the other teams

[tropic summit]

the problem tbh is their invest on vestiTU, in general p2 shouldn't die while linked and with a biscuit

you gonna need to draw a new approach and scrap those teams

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit @shell hazel

https://tenor.com/view/thanxy-gif-9009172360785022001

[tropic summit]

looks good run them? or you lost P1 earlier?

[charred quail]

Oh oops

[obsidian tangle]

no, I will attack later :p

so I was just trying to brainstorm a way to maybe beat all 3 if I can

[tropic summit]

that setup should win 2 out of 3 at least, looks good

[obsidian tangle]

sweet 🙂 ty

[tropic summit]

T3 has definitely a better chance now

[stuck hearth]

maybe i can attack T1 with some new lines?

[tropic summit]

gonna need 2822kCP

if anything it's less punishing than their T3

show me your box so i know what's your highest CP

[twilit bay]

Can someone help me beat this? Anis, Noah, Biscuit, Privaty, SW is not working.

[tropic summit]

blanc swha rh biscuit jackal

biscuitless-noah moran is generally always punishable with swha on 2 buffs

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/but-you-need-to-stop-just-stop-applause-entertainment-rudra-ajay-devgun-gif-26332640

[glad meteor]

Anis p1 makes invul run out faster

[tropic summit]

@stuck hearth thinking this

[twilit bay]

Tried with Anis instead of RH a while ago and it didn't work, was her buff just not high enough? Thank you for the help.

[tropic summit]

no anisTT re-enters there, you want to be on B2 at 2RL

blanc vigor
swha tempering
rh vigor
biscuit vigor
jackal quantum

[stuck hearth]

how did Noah get sunned?????

[stuck hearth]

as you brought that up. I tried a meme and wtf. it worked.

[tropic summit]

surprising... they've good invest but garbo CS%

their noah is non siren resistant

keep it mind for the future, that's abusable

[wise owl]

Chat, I'd like to ask for some input
Landing 30th two seasons in a row has me worried for my gem income
Let's say I have every Nikke, except for those in the last pic

[tropic summit]

you're running frankenstein teams with poor synergy but good units, if you fix them up you should've a good chance to climb

[wise owl]

Frankenstein isn't inaccurate
Intuitively, these don't clash; but it seems like they could be optimized a lot more

[tropic summit]

start fixing up this way:

• moran noah biscuit swha laplaceT
• nayuta anisTT helmT bsoda liberalio
• jackal vestiTU rapunzel blanc drakeT

[wise owl]

Thank you

[cedar sorrel]

Does ada count as a buffer or is she too weak?

[stuck hearth]

makes it more hilarious. I have bad investment AND garbo CS%

[tropic summit]

she's arguably better than RH for vestiTU and SWHA

[cedar sorrel]

Wow huge good to know

[tropic summit]

but you need to have her on higher HP and if your indom unit are high core it's gonna be hard

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1--k01KS3M12PSYRM6PHY2HQGSQHV4

[delicate cove]

interms of team archatypes is there only, Nuke, Sustain, and Indom (which idk what it really is but im guessing its a live first nuke and wipe back?)

and if so does it act like a rock paper scissors game where Nuke beats sustain, sutain/stall beats indom, and indom beats nuke

or do u need indom to beat indom

[wise owl]

I'm guessing a mix of quantum and resilience for the cubes?
Quantum's sitting at Level 7, subject to more union raids

[stuck hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/mashle-magic-and-muscles-hooray-mashle-magic-and-muscles-hooray-gif-3935425210237383604

[wise owl]

Oh god, it's working great
Thank you so much

[tropic summit]

there's actually hybrids too of sort

• nuke can have DPS (vestiTU and SWHA are good examples)
• sustain can have DPS or nuke (moran noah vestiTU, noise bay biscuit swha... etc)
• indom can be single target focused or aoe, we're also able to run indoms with rosanna or siren thanks to SWHA

then you got some other gimmick oriented teams

• SG pressure (when attacking, the objective of this team is to kill p1 and p2 very quickly)
• absolute (this team wants to murder p1 p2 p3 pre burst)
• sacc (this team wants to 1.5RL-1.8RL via getting units killed, friendly included)
• stun (prevent a noah via stunning, soda or siren typically, situationally rapunzel)
• slow cindy (this one wants to wait then nuke after noah shields are down, tends to also have slow indom combined)

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hatsune-priconne-1--k01KS3M7M49B9A2AG2ZETE21Y29

[delicate cove]

bruh wtf

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-eyeballs-looking-binoculars-resident-evil-gif-5218614413222692600

[tropic summit]

moran tempering
noah tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering
laplaceT quantum

nayuta any
anisTT quantum
helmT tempering
bsoda any
lib any

jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
rapunzel vigor
blanc vigor
drakeT vigor

[tropic summit]

here's 2 example of stun oriented teams

[wise owl]

Seeing as my Tempering's at Level 6, I'll have to get to upgrading that

[tropic summit]

example of SG pressure

[delicate cove]

the stun team u made me with priv has been the most consistant

[tropic summit]

example of sacc

[delicate cove]

i think its cus helm and anis has giga burst gen so i stun before they burst

[tropic summit]

yeah this one can actually out trade against even noah teams depending on what they running

[delicate cove]

nah nah nah sac gotta be goated for CP inflating

[tropic summit]

swha instead of helmT would add DPS if you got her

[delicate cove]

i use SWHA on another team atm to keep cp even

[tropic summit]

oke makes sense

[delicate cove]

sac seems cool as hell tho for being able to use pve units in pvp just to close deficit

[gentle harness]

Could someone help me beat this? Blanc, TU.Vesti, SWHA, Biscuit and Idol Anis wins against t1 but no clue on the others.

[delicate cove]

can you manual arena to make ur units swap to their p5?

zamn ;-;

[hollow lagoon]

Hard universe

[versed mesa]

Would be kinda interesting though, if you could set a preference on what position units focus on, but only on defense

[gentle harness]

What?

[tropic summit]

show these so we confirm CP first (you're on the left)

[versed mesa]

Kind of like some Tower Defense games, they let you assign if the towers focus enemies closest to them, closest towards the point they are going to, or closest to where they come in range

[hollow lagoon]

Couldn’t you do a swha indom for that t3?

[tropic summit]

it's 3 eletric splashers + vestiTU

swha is water code, you need to slot a biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

Label swha indom

[tropic summit]

that makes T1 and T2 easier

[tropic summit]

good luck expecting ppl to have label built

[hollow lagoon]

I was gonna suggest absolute ont3 to see who out splash who

[tropic summit]

oh absolute would be fun on T3

instantly remove up to p3

see ya B1 and B2

[hollow lagoon]

Absolute be expensive tho

[tropic summit]

if they've absolute they're pvp main

and won't be asking for help anymore

[cedar sorrel]

I may have spent 50k gems on this

[gentle harness]

Sadly, no Label built. So few uses electric on defence these days kinda feel redundant.

[versed mesa]

I'll get back to you on my Absolute investments in a year or two

[tropic summit]

don't worry we all expected this

show the matchup i gave you earlier to check CP then we can confirm teams

[placid bloom]

the Mihara Label believers are disappeared

[tropic summit]

anisTT instead of anis SR

regardless you're in CP range, so fix anis then you're good to go

[versed mesa]

I tossed the 10 advance tickets from event shop for a Raven dupe, no luck though

[gentle harness]

Oops, yean no B1 in that comp.

[raven plover]

@covert lintel rerolling for 21 cs gonna take 3 roks each wtf

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thats-him-pointing-out-1--k01KS3N5P6G4Y4FHKH76M25836C

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

I ask for halp but I don’t have absolute built

[real ore]

How often do mirror matches work for defeating opponents in special arena?

[tropic summit]

i never saw you needing even remotely help though?

[placid bloom]

mirror match too much gamble

[hollow lagoon]

I ask you to smooth out my ca comps

[tropic summit]

that's not help, just sharing your cursed cookings

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Still made top 4 it wasn’t that bad

[gentle harness]

Thanks.

[lone sequoia]

time to perm lock attack and reroll ele/cs

[noble python]

Hey Rail I need some new defense teams

[tropic summit]

or just say fk it and don't get CS%

[tropic summit]

post your current 3 defs and blabla link

[charred quail]

T1. Moran Swha Helm Noah Noise
T2. Blanc Vesti Biscuit Anis Jackal

[placid bloom]

generally mirror match only work because of change in target prio for SR on attack or because you know for sure there is cs invest diff

[hollow lagoon]

Priv stun set is the new counterish for the jackaless anis Blanc comps?

[placid bloom]

otherwise it's not consistent at all

[noble python]

I don’t have a BlaBla

[tropic summit]

will get out traded depending what's running behind that anisTT blanc

[lone sequoia]

or quit the game, many possibilities

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mind-blown-shocked-2--k01KS3NB07T1JJXCXG5W2RC8KGR

[tropic summit]

let's see

[hollow lagoon]

In wat scenerio it gets out traded?

[real ore]

I see

[hollow lagoon]

Neon swha?

[real ore]

The guy I've been rivals with changes his defense team after nearly every loss

I've been able to keep up for the most part but I can't get past this one

[lone sequoia]

that guy must have a problem

[real ore]

Can I get some advice for dealing with this team?

[tropic summit]

T1 correct
T2 close, but risky. Will likely still work with risk involved though, whenever you deal with a nayuta 2RL avoid using jackal links, as nayuta nukes link before your B2 goes off

since in this case T2 kicks you around 1.5RL-1.8RL, you're safe. But don't learn this pattern if possible (this is a special case due to SG feed)

[lone sequoia]

if someone who know about pvp change def a lot, they don't know about pvp, because they should know they can't defend

[real ore]

I am level 628 btw

[placid bloom]

I change my def if new char releases and I have resource to build

that's about it, every other time fak defense

[charred quail]

Oh right. All those sg speeds up the indom

[versed mesa]

Day 1/early account holder in my SP bracket with Drake, Privaty and Anis Gacha costumes. Synchro 237

[real ore]

It's just to counter me. I don't think anyone else bothers his spot

[charred quail]

What would have been the correct answer then?

[real ore]

Trying to see what sticks

[charred quail]

@tropic summit anis p5? Or something different?

[lone sequoia]

some people play games or buy costumes for bragging rights, even if they don't play it every day is part of their achievements

[tropic summit]

you've a few options here

T1 is weak to indom, anti nuke, siren, absolute, slow cindy, rosanna and most of anything
T2 is weak to biscuit lock, anti nuke and non jackal indoms
T3 is weak to slower indom

picking T1 and T2 is correct as they're clearly easier though

@charred quail go with this next

[versed mesa]

I will never in a billion years understand what is the point. Who are you even bragging to at that point?

[tropic summit]

dealing with T1 with less expensive solution and dealing with T2 with biscuit lock or anti nuke
you were close, the T2 was a tad off

[charred quail]

👍
Score that I got on that one?

[tropic summit]

assemble these and show CP

[tropic summit]

passable cuz they should clear at least, don't like your T2 solution because it wasn't accounting for nayuta but it wasn't wrong per se, just risky

go with next one

[real ore]

Is team 2 with Anis star or SR

[tropic summit]

anisTT, it's your only B1

[stone iris]

What team comps beat anis star/SWHA/blanc/biscuit/cinderella?

[noble python]

I have no idea how to use it lol

[tropic summit]

box is fine too

[noble python]

Ok first here’s defenses

[real ore]

Of course

[hollow lagoon]

Could dis kek it?

[real ore]

Sorry for taking a pic of my screen. I havent re-download discord on pc yet

[tropic summit]

looks like you're in range, final touch with cubes

swha tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor
centi quantum
jackal quantum

noah tempering
anisTT quantum
biscuit vigor
vestiTU tempering
helmT vigor/tempering

once cubes are set give it a shot, record if you can so we can troubleshot if something goes wrong

[tropic summit]

T1: assuming ada is built and doesn't steal link or is not lowest HP in link, ye
T2: ballsy with ok chances of out trading
T3: ada-less vestiTU is stallable, may work

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/naked-gun-funny-chance-odds-the-naked-gun-gif-26923953

[hollow lagoon]

I outstalled nuff Adaless vesti I’m kind of scared of running non Ada vesti now days

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• scarlet trina rosanna anisTT jackal
• vestiTU swha rapunzel blanc drakeT
• nayuta centi helmt RH laplaceT

[tropic summit]

makes sense

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/perfectheart-death-omori-gif-21829303

[hollow lagoon]

Then again the mfker is lower sync, prob gets clapped

[tropic summit]

[real ore]

I should go in with only 2 teams? I will re-download discord so I can record

[tropic summit]

if you've rosanna built for the other leftover team

siren nayuta laplaceT ros emilia/liberalio

[hollow lagoon]

Is it me or I feel like I ain’t doing nuff Rosa pokes now days, feels like my personality is being stripped away

[humble tiger]

Arena resets are so interesting cuz you'll end up seeing players that you otherwise wouldn't see.

[hollow lagoon]

Never seen any of them

[hollow lagoon]

My righteous regin at an end it seems

[humble tiger]

I swear if they added 3 more characters to our usernames that guy would've written something diabolical.

[severe tundra]

Won't t1 result in a 4 person burst?

[hollow lagoon]

[humble tiger]

Oh ye. I ended rank 6 last season

[tropic summit]

anisTT re-enter only happens if she's the first to burst

burst order is left to right

[noble python]

Done

[tropic summit]

that team will be

B1 ros
B2 trina
B3 scar

[hollow lagoon]

I wanna burst in 4 nikkes too

[hollow lagoon]

Not NIKKE

[severe tundra]

I forgot ros was B1 lol

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

She’s b2

[hollow lagoon]

The skimpier version burst 2

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zenit-su-zenitsu--k01KS3Q1CJTM28PMDWJSFKMREG6

https://klipy.com/gifs/hmm-interesting-27--k01KS3Q1V8PSAS5E50VDCWAJNP3

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor pve g0on finally got his sanity

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

If I get smite by the mods for the unmodified ingame screenshot so be it

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1061709301716099133/scarlet.gif

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1442625973458698311/1de24351352ac65c748db56bbdf2b21192138a81.gif

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-scarlet-stellar-blade-get-real-gif-1027170010749018028

[hollow lagoon]

I was fighting her for the lulz on the weekend

Completely forget most of her moveset

[versed mesa]

I need to get back to SB, still haven't beaten her

[hollow lagoon]

I caved in and started using potions

Oh tragic me

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-19732520

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/weakness-disgusts-me-senju--k01KS3QHDB750QXHBXVAFNEFC3H

[hollow lagoon]

Like some times it feels bad when you don’t pot

But if ya pot it goes too easy

So it’s like…. Eah?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-james-doakes-dexter-jamss-doaxes-staring-when-you-know-gif-10152841660313287334

[hollow lagoon]

What build do u play?

[versed mesa]

Ugh, it's been so long that I don't even remember anymore. Whatever gave the most pure attack power

[hollow lagoon]

I played burst gen build

I started on the tankier set tho

But it didn’t feel that good

[versed mesa]

I've always been bad with parry stuff in games so I tried to focus on learning parry timings in SB

[real ore]

thank you so much, it worked.

[real ore]

let me see if I can upload the recording

[tropic summit]

cheers

[charred quail]

T2. Nero Anis Moran HelmT Rapunzel
T3. Noah Biscuit Emilia Red Hood Rumani

[tropic summit]

who told you to run nero...

@gritty ridge stop teaching him half assed things cuz you're confusing him

[gritty ridge]

I just showed him the team

[versed mesa]

Btw, Nero means Genius in Finnish

[gritty ridge]

Replace rapunzel with noise tho and its a proper team

(I lied)

You actually want mana there

[tropic summit]

T2 is iffy, it's invest dependant and nero moran is actually countered by blanc ein and ada due to DR reduce and true damage
dunno who taught you that, but it's too early for you to use it
T3 cinderella is 2.5RL which bypasses partially noah shield and you're running water code, again a risky team that does not try to counter

scrap both teams and retry, stick to units you UNDERSTAND and know how to use

[gritty ridge]

Rail what was his answer for the one I sent you

[tropic summit]

a few hints here as there are a few things you're unfamiliar with @charred quail

T1 this appears strong but it's weak af, stick to the basics, look at the units and you'll realize
T2 can be in fact stalled, but it needs biscuit and moran
T3 this one should be a piece of cake, you already know and used that counter plenty of times, you can't NOT see what is working here

[tropic summit]

he got it right with a noah stall and a jackal indom feeding on SGs

[versed mesa]

It begins. C4 hit me. Took it back

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

let him hit twice then rotate to the unknown def so he has to gem against it

[versed mesa]

I was idle in the menu so I think my online status didn't update, so he went for it

He is now doing the thing I was expecting him to do. Hit me when I'm offline, he can easily get some points then if he wants

[gritty ridge]

Im having a terrible time in deficit rn

This guy makes his teams so expensive to beat

[versed mesa]

This is my villain arc

I was even actually about to log off in a bit anyway. He could have kept it if he just waited like 30 minutes

[charred quail]

[tropic summit]

T1 copiumly almost made it
T2 was closer than i thought, anisTT dmg is just dumb
T3 went as it should

thanks for sharing

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit blame @umbral belfry, shes the one who likes anis nero moran

[tropic summit]

of all the times to use it... to go and use it against a blanc team stacking true dmg is wild

he needs to master the basic archetypes or he's just gonna get weird ideas

[gritty ridge]

Weird ideas are good sometimes

[real ore]

Anis is scary but I'm still amazed after all this time how snow white can just nuke entire teams so hard even as the only unit left

Any ways I can improve these defense teams? The first Moran one I know is the worst

[tropic summit]

these are kinda running weird synergies

[tropic summit]

think they were probably temporary teams

[cedar sorrel]

Any other nikke I should pull here for dupes? I own everyone thats good

I was mayhe thinking noise?

[unique wagon]

If u do pvp only just kick out every pve unit

[cedar sorrel]

I dont but I can just buy moran in the shop

Beyond that theres rouge I guess and after that theyre just not that good

[tropic summit]

• moran noah biscuit swha trina
• jackal scarlet vestiTU blanc laplaceT
• nayuta anisTT privT helmT centi

centi and trina are flexible with liberalio and bsoda/drake if they're better CP wise

[cedar sorrel]

Oh theres blanc

Ill put blanc

[tropic summit]

if you're missing any of these add them (collab limited excluded)

[cedar sorrel]

None that are tetra

[umbral crown]

[real ore]

Is it worth it to upgrade centi treasure level 1? I heard doing it past that bricks the team

[cedar sorrel]

Yea dont go above that otherwise she gives feed to the enemy in pvp

[tropic summit]

past phase 1 it starts giving enemy teams extra burst gen, so it's generally not advisable

[real ore]

Would it be recommended to upgrade to level 1 or just not upgrade her at all?

[tropic summit]

i personally didn't bother treasuring her at all, we've so many burst gen options anyway that she kinda lost value compared to others

[cedar sorrel]

You get nothing out of it except a small cp boost maybe. Prob not worth the trouble getting those 160 dispatch materials

Oh wait its less

But yeah. Ud only do it for the mission and the wallpaper

If u have her already SR15 ajd u have 50 of her mats then I guess u dont lose anything from it

[charred quail]

A guy in your bracket other than Lova became good?

[gritty ridge]

No hes just 70 sync above me

[charred quail]

👍

[gritty ridge]

And anis is making things difficult

[charred quail]

Btw bigboi, why is your deficit that big?

[tropic summit]

cuz his opponent is 💳

he's pushing campaign on 43% deficit and still behind in synchro tells you a lot

[charred quail]

Oh bruh. Thought bigboi took a big break or something

[charred quail]

Which means the guy spent 20k on levels

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge you didn't brick as far i remember right?

[tropic summit]

to give you an idea, my current whel was actually over 10-20 levels behind me, he's now 70+ levels ahead

[gritty ridge]

I have not

[tropic summit]

silly whels

[charred quail]

wtf

[gritty ridge]

Im a whale, but i didnt buy levels

So im behind in power from the other whales who did

[cedar sorrel]

Top 1 in my spa is like 180 levels ahead of me he cleared normal and hard mode and he started last october

[gritty ridge]

Damn

[charred quail]

T1 can indom?
T2 skip?
Moran Anis noah?

[cedar sorrel]

I lied he didnt clear hard mode hes at MC hard

Im lvl 264 btw

[charred quail]

The actual question is when am I going to get better?

[oak hatch]

Dw they even higher sync than me too and started after me

[cedar sorrel]

He spends a dumptruck of money

He even flexing his start date in bio 😭 😭 let it go bro

[oak hatch]

They’re most likely buying daily core dust packs

[cedar sorrel]

Yuppp

[charred quail]

All of it?

[charred quail]

Same.

[oak hatch]

Pretty sure not just core dust packs but also battle data cuz he would of ran out of battle data already

So super 🐳

[cedar sorrel]

He buys everything

C7 all good units

The one time I was ch3 I could see his teams it was mindboggling

[charred quail]

@tropic summit I know you are a good teacher but I feel as if I’m not learning

[gritty ridge]

I had a whale who was sync 585 while I was in the 300's

[cedar sorrel]

It cant be this serious

[north brook]

Can always just try random shit until it works, ez learning

[gritty ridge]

The daily resource pack has all 3 and is enough to get you leveling quite a bit faster than others

For the low price of 600$ a month

[charred quail]

I’m poor

I’m waiting for ca to be back so I can also learn from cheer

[north brook]

Tbh important to know ca is its own meta

Usually teams are hedged where they have one easy counter but otherwise perform well

SpA/rookie teams with an easy counter become food

[cedar sorrel]

Yea ca needs 5 solid teams so u get spread pretty thin

And its also randomised what fights what

[oak hatch]

Oh wow I took a look at it and that pack is best value for whales who want to sync fast

[gritty ridge]

Indeed it does

[cedar sorrel]

Spa is 3 teams and ur opp chooses what to run into which 2 teams so it needs to be way more well rounded

[gritty ridge]

Its the fastest way to level with 1 pack

[stone heart]

How to win CA

.

.

Buy luck 😶‍🌫️

[cedar sorrel]

[charred quail]

Rail went to bed?🛏️

[glad meteor]

Yes. @shell hazel can confirm

[charred quail]

[real ore]

thanks

[versed mesa]

Yay pushed Ultra to step 60+ in Solo Raid museum while chilling to see if the C4 will hit me again or not

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/call-out-shout-out-ken-jeong-gif-13121363

[minor egret]

@hidden mortar He's at it again and he's still 600

[hidden mortar]

is he hitting you?

hes still 2nd on my list

[minor egret]

That's because I just hit him back

[hidden mortar]

aite I'll hit him

still at 600 after hard mode is wild lol

I'm glad he's doing that though because i didnt get enough to hit 541. Still at 539

should be 541 by the end of the week

[umbral crown]

just do The Thing

[minor egret]

Wipe out some more

[umbral crown]

battle data for cd

[minor egret]

ohnono

[hidden mortar]

I wont

[umbral crown]

its what i do

[hidden mortar]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-forbidden-forbidden-beauty-and-the-beast-the-beast-the-beast-it's-forbidden-gif-5092434500432391261

[minor egret]

I have less battle data cases than credits and I never traded

[hidden mortar]

I did check, I'd get 48000 cd if i opened all of my data boxes and then converted to cd

[umbral crown]

enough for 2 levels and still with some left

[hidden mortar]

48000 is like 3 levels, but I'd ahve no battle data

[umbral crown]

just need to get enough for 541

rest can wait

[minor egret]

I know some high sync players who are currently bottleneck by battle data

It's a thing

[hidden mortar]

I want SU to confirm that there's no CA 31 so I can not care what this guy does

[umbral crown]

not just high, people like me also but not really a thing

[umbral crown]

so you do not trust the process

https://tenor.com/view/what-beaver-huh-surprised-gif-7511937

[minor egret]

It only happens when you're leveling too fast yeah. Still the easier ressource to get out the 3

[umbral crown]

im the process

[glad meteor]

Bleb

[umbral crown]

been telling there is not CA 31 for a while but pleb does not trust the process

[glad meteor]

Rosy going to whel for you

[glad meteor]

He’s been thirsty looking at the cash shop recently

[umbral crown]

kinda

trying to force my way to 561

[hidden mortar]

why you always mad at me

[glad meteor]

Look thirsty at some booba instead

[glad meteor]

theres no

[hidden mortar]

its not the process I dont trust, its SU. And I think that's valid

[umbral crown]

see? the stars always point you where you are meant to goo

[glad meteor]

My stars point to rosy

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[raven plover]

theres no CA 31

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

its CA 1 but beta 2.0

[glad meteor]

CA alpha

[umbral crown]

no more betas, its the real thing

[glad meteor]

Then CA gamma. Hulk alts of nikke

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret you know what really confuses me. Why does he insist on hitting you and me, when at this point he can easily beat the other 2 whales

instead of spending 200 gems a day for nothing since we both just beat him back, why not take c3 or c4

[umbral crown]

he wants to send a message pleb, trust

[hidden mortar]

the only message he's sending is that he's not very smart

[minor egret]

It must be some grudge or some kind of honor running in his blood telling him he can't lose this. Dude logged earlier than usual to start doing this again and he's already at -100 while we know how the day is going to end, him sleeping 2 hours before reset

[umbral crown]

but he can hit both of you

[hidden mortar]

if he hit c2/3 and left me alone in c4 I would have had no quarrel with the guy

[minor egret]

He still manage to lose some to me despite my def being the exact same

[hidden mortar]

but he intentionally hit me, THEN hit c2, and then started hitting grim

might be an rng win

like he isnt countering you but relying on some condition like indom or crit

[umbral crown]

hitting everyone equally

if i get down to C5 i would hit everyone till i get C1, like moving things around

[hidden mortar]

no, when he's in c7 he ignores everyone and STILL only hits me then grim

[minor egret]

Rosy is even more insane than Pleb

I just want peace and gems

[hidden mortar]

weeeeeell. About that.

[umbral crown]

then thats the message, you two

[glad meteor]

Is there an award for being most sane. I’d like it now thanks

[hidden mortar]

a couple seasons ago there was one guy annoying me in an older bracket so I intentionally put a really terrible defense that anyone can beat, got knocked down to c10, hit him to swap his rank, got knocked down to diamond, hit him to pull him into diamond and jsut kept going until we were both low diamond

he stopped attacking me after that

[haughty mortar]

Could I bother y'all for improvements on my SpA defense? Still Cindyless but have Neon.

[minor egret]

Shan't get triggered by the arena. Gems are precious

But I kinda like the idea of that S guy going bald over it

[umbral crown]

[hidden mortar]

if theres no more ca after this I might do that stunt again and drag scar to bottom 50 with me out of spite

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-james-doakes-dexter-jamss-doaxes-staring-when-you-know-gif-10152841660313287334

[minor egret]

No Biscuit?

[haughty mortar]

I have biscuit

1 sec

[umbral crown]

but you have Ein

[haughty mortar]

Yep

[minor egret]

It just looks scary for your Privaty. Sometimes even my Helm die in p3 before reaching burst in that kind of comp

[unique wagon]

But you're not the most sane

Sorry but I think Dair is the most sane here

[umbral crown]

Jackal/Ein/Ada/Blanc/HelmT

T.T.Anis/Noah/Biscuit/SnowHA/MoranT

Nayuta/VestiTactical/LaplaceT/NeoNeon/Red Hood

[unique wagon]

And Rail the smartest

I'm a Rail fanboy now

[hidden mortar]

"most sane" you're bri*ish automatically disqualified

[unique wagon]

My opinion is 100% biased

[unique wagon]

Bro didn't they teach u to censor that word smh

[hidden mortar]

u right

[unique wagon]

bri*ish

[umbral crown]

can also change RH for rosanna if invested

[quaint granite]

[versed mesa]

A bo'oh o wo'er?

[haughty mortar]

Rosanna is pretty shit. Only literally OLed her and chill

[umbral crown]

then go RH way

you can always keep changing defense to see what works best for you

[haughty mortar]

Cubes?

[umbral crown]

usually i recommend

T.T.Anis Tempura
Noah Tempura
Snow Tempura
Moran Tempura

Jackal Quatum
Ein : follow your heart
Ada: Quatum
Blanc Tempura or vigor
HelmT: Tempura or quautm ** depends how many slots you have for both of them**
Nayuta: any
Vesti: Tempura
Laplace: Quatum
Neo Neon: Any
Red Hood: Highest cube
Biscuit : vigor

[umbral crown]

just 10 more to go, ez

inflation hits

[haughty mortar]

I LOVE TEMPURA!

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-tempura-fail-disappointed-gif-23617983

[haughty mortar]

Quant Tempering and Vigor are level 7

[umbral crown]

the tanks should get them, you can fit the rest as your heart says

it gives you some knowledge

[haughty mortar]

OK so for Tempering, since 4 slots, the first 4 you mention should be priod?

[umbral crown]

noah moran Vesti Neo neon

[haughty mortar]

Thanks chief!

Bay no longer used?

[umbral crown]

she is

your teams would need an ajustment to fit her in

[haughty mortar]

That's fine. She isn't OL rn

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

Remove the lock for ed

[raven plover]

its ok I still have 1 gear that cost 2 roks per reroll, gonna find 6 cs there

[gritty ridge]

Rosy can I borrow your tempura levels

[unique wagon]

3ple win letsgo

[umbral crown]

after this CA for sure

[umbral crown]

why your char is not named kisenyan

[gritty ridge]

Hmmm, ill have 13 after this CA

[umbral crown]

yours will be 15 for the real CA after July

my quautm gonna be 15 after CA starts

[gritty ridge]

So true

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I dont even have that many units I wanna put quantum on

[umbral crown]

i know but you know, im built different

[gritty ridge]

Id rather have 25 tempura

[umbral crown]

in CA the cubes i use are tempura, quantum and some vigor/adjuntant

but mostly the first 2, cuz no more slots

[gritty ridge]

I mainly use tempura, I have like 5 units i want quantum for, and the rest dont really matter

[umbral crown]

gonna make adjuntant 11 next month then just save till my hearts says to invest in another cube

[gritty ridge]

Mmm adjutant

The free cs breakpoint

[umbral crown]

yep

but thats because its lv10

so why not 11

[unique wagon]

Sponsor?

[umbral crown]

of course

[delicate cove]

i shidded on him with a attack right before reset

tho its kinda fricked that were bouncing between 1 3 and not 1 2

the rank 2 guy is pretty weak too

[umbral crown]

he just watching the show

[umbral belfry]

I didn't teach/tell fish to use nero anis I really didn't lol

[unique wagon]

Ok, buy me monthly card.

[charred quail]

@tropic summit Idk what I should do Rail. I feel like I’m not learning. I’m trying my best kek

[eternal finch]

Need some help for a better DEF for SP please.

[eternal finch]

Any help would be appreaciated!

[quick lake]

I would say good pvp teams are rather templated

eg
Jackal Vesti Blanc
Moran Noah Helm

Generally, the 3 main types of teams are cleave, tank, sustain.

Cleave is ur typical glass cannon, Scar Trina

Sustain types deal continuous dmg over time (mostly blanc indom)

and tank which are tanky teams like eg Nero Anis Moran or Moran Noah Helm

Typically, when we see Noah, we cant nuke, so we go with the Indom route (or any kind of team that can do continuous dmg)

When we see blanc (I would typically skip), but u can use a sustain team to outlast Blanc’s indom. Doesnt always work and has varying teams to counter. Not as consistent imo

Pvp units used are also very standard. We rarely use more niche units like BSoda/SAnis etc as we have a good roster nowadays

[charred quail]

👍 .Here comes another issue is that i still struggle with team building even after reading your team building guide. i often times need to refer back to rail's examples or your examples in the pins. Im unable to build the teams on my own

[heady ermine]

Have to defeat this team with same Unbreakable ability?

[quick lake]

PvP is mostly seeing (and memorising) different interactions between units.

Eg Jackal Blanc VestiTU. Jackal allows us to control who gets the lowest Hp and Indom, so typically we also put Blanc in Jackal teams

Eg Moran Bay Biscuit, recently new archetype, where Bay dmg shares and takes 60% team wide dmg, but biscuit applies Invuln on her so she doesnt receive dmg. So it functionally looks like a team wide 60% dmg reduction.

Eg Anis Blanc Biscuit
Mostly Indom Anis which is broken in and of itself

Yeahhh, its mostly recognising what units are the “core” of a team

[umbral crown]

but also learning pvp takes time

[quick lake]

Its okay, we were all very lost when we started. I rmb Rail being a newb too

[charred quail]

I'll note down this down. Ty

[charred quail]

i thought i was smart cause i learned pve in a week. Learning pvp is making me feel dumb

[umbral crown]

we were during Zixks era

[quick lake]

Scar Trina RH HelmT Jackal

[umbral crown]

happens

[quick lake]

Zixks era

[umbral crown]

he was always testing in rookie and saving his logs

[quick lake]

The OGs

[umbral crown]

he was like: 10k gems on rookie, 15k on sp just from testing

[charred quail]

Zixks best pvp ma?

[umbral crown]

and also had 30k to gem if any funny rival appears to take his C3

[umbral crown]

he was

bro did teach us how to pvp

[quick lake]

I came slightly after Zixk left. had no pvp MAs then

[charred quail]

How long did it take you to fully understand pvp and what did you do to learn? Did you take notes or do something else?

[quick lake]

I saved and went through Keripo’s messages referred to his tier list alot

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

Last time we need to think about balancing buffers vs Speed. Now much less so cause eveything’s 2RL

[charred quail]

👍 . who's msges should i go through now? and im guessing the tierlist is in nikke deck?

[umbral crown]

hmm,, kinda like almost a year to fully understand how pvp worked, at first i was auto and hope for the best everything in pvp, and that somewhere helped me to get to C10 but back then did not know how

[quick lake]

Probably yap with Rail

There isnt alot of pvp “theory” walk-throughs unfortunately

[umbral crown]

but notes i did not, i was always asking and being active here, sometimes recommending teams and reading what others were doing

you can also check nikke deck tier list along with prydem

back in the days zixk was carrying pvp channel, he was checking every message here and if people asked for help, he would answer even if 5h later till the newest message

[umbral crown]

yeah, kinda an indom fight or you could try to missindom to libe with SRs

and since he was always testing, he had the answer to every question most likely

[quick lake]

Hi Pleb

[hidden mortar]

I learned pvp from getting my ass beat and asking @glad meteor and tio for help

[umbral crown]

pleb is writting a testament

[hidden mortar]

ello

[quick lake]

come yap here instead of prydwen

[umbral crown]

[hidden mortar]

I can yap in both

[umbral crown]

after all these years im not challenger yet

[quick lake]

I lurk in prydwen

[hidden mortar]

I will never understand the arbitrary rules of this place

[umbral crown]

[hidden mortar]

I can swear but can't say...go*n? maybe?

[quick lake]

yeah go0n is banned

[tight finch]

Calling someone a go0ner more offensive these days

[quick lake]

[tight finch]

Arbitrary words worse than swear

[quick lake]

cant say le@ks too

or se-gs

[hidden mortar]

istg

[umbral crown]

do not say ** the thing**

[minor egret]

What are these filters, it's not even a real word

[quick lake]

maincord problems

[hidden mortar]

at least this is less insufferable than other maincords I've been in. Imagine getting pinged by their automod bot everytime you trigger one of their random rules

[quick lake]

yeah, nikke maincord pretty nice compared to others

more yappin’

[hidden mortar]

mee6 my most hated bot

by far

[heady ermine]

I see. Thank you.

[minor egret]

I can't relate, most of the time I yap in places where there's no filters whatsoever so it gets wild but I like it it's funny

[hidden mortar]

[heady ermine]

It wasn't quite the win I expected, but we made it through just fine. What a relief!

[hidden mortar]

my friends server basically, weird stuff gets thrown around there

its probably why i will never tell anyone ik irl my discord

[umbral crown]

if its rookie you could try: T.T.Anis/Blanc/HelmT/Biscuit/SnowHA

[umbral crown]

[minor egret]

I don't even use discord as my main way to communicate but made one for the sign-in-event and now I'm here

[umbral crown]

the way to send you here

[minor egret]

@hidden mortar Nayuta hit him btw

[minor egret]

Yeah I love free stuff

[hidden mortar]

I'm the opposite. Dont use any social media other than whatsapp for irl stuff and then discord for online stuff

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-money-giveittome-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-4184913

[charred quail]

go through every single message?

[hidden mortar]

its finally happening

wait that means he's gonna hit me too lol. Eh whatever i know how to deal with him

[umbral crown]

nope, just be a bit more active when he is around

[hidden mortar]

fyi; grim remember earlier I said I sunk gems into dragging someone down and out of top 10 because they pissed me off

it was that nayuta guy.

[umbral crown]

he has good pvp experience and manage well the technical stuff

[charred quail]

I dont know what questions i should be asking

[umbral crown]

whatrever your heart wanna ask

[hidden mortar]

it was because he kept copying any defense I made and it started to actually piss me off

[umbral crown]

like: do you like bread?

[minor egret]

That's why you're broke and 100 sync levels behind

[quick lake]

Rail yaps alot. Can prob just ask him questions here and there

[umbral crown]

in other words: bricked like me

[minor egret]

Did you took a long break? That's the real 🧱

[charred quail]

what questions tho? i barely know anything about pvp.

questions such as why this team beats that team etc?

[hidden mortar]

well, we used to be closer in level. Him, me and the other CA frame in like c7 or whatever were all within 10 levels of each other. But then one day nayuta just started giga whaling and then he was 60+ higher

[umbral crown]

nope, we just pvp investors

[quick lake]

yeppp

[umbral crown]

but if you not gapping me with cp, im gonna take you down even if 80+ levels

[minor egret]

Reminds me of these 2 guys with their champion arena frame who go reshuffled in our bracket for one season but couldn't get challenger 4 because they invested too much in pvp and not enough pushing. Nikke is an idle game they say or something

[charred quail]

k. guess ima go watch recordings and then send that to him and ask?

[umbral crown]

like my friendo mariko, 634 sleeping in C5

im 551

he was C1 but i did The Thing

[hidden mortar]

basically yea. If possible try making your own attacks in rookie and if you lose, post the damage screen/replay and ask why you lost, you'll learn more from knowing "how to not lose" than knowing "how to beat a specific comp"

thats what rookie is for, testing stuff to see what works

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[minor egret]

This is the state of my rookie, everyone using the same comp and thinking they can beat me because of Anis but always lose

[hidden mortar]

I hope scar dude doesn't copy your teams grim

I wouldnt know how to deal with your team 1 on deficit

[umbral crown]

i could also fight you, i have the cp for it

[tight finch]

This comp so annoying to test against purely cos siren invalidates alot

[minor egret]

My Moran always finish them solo, it's way too funny

[spare hare]

How many gems you used?

[umbral crown]

since i started fighting him weeks ago, like 200 or 300 at much

[hidden mortar]

you guys make actual rookie teams? mine is this

[minor egret]

This one? Yeah even if you kill Helm before burst chain 3 you have a 100/50 Cindy taking it

[hidden mortar]

cindy doesnt scare me as much as dealing with anis + nayuta burst on deficit lol

[umbral crown]

before 541 boost i was testing daily since im fine in sp and nobody attacks me so free hits were used for knowledge

[minor egret]

She's kind of scary actually in that team

[hidden mortar]

nayuta by herself loses to moran even at 30% deficit, but with anis dps thrown in its sketchy

[quick lake]

Anis too broken

[umbral crown]

now my rival after copied my teams for weeks , went to T.T.Anis/Blanc/HelmT/Biscuit/Cindy

[hidden mortar]

hm. True, if they dont run rosanna to dispell nayuta's indom then it'll be rough. Also need to somehow oneshot cindy, maybe 2rl lib can wipe her

[minor egret]

Best is probably to not deal with that team. Their OLs are all crazy but that means having to deal with Moran at deficit which is not good

[umbral crown]

grim, why is your noah not C7

not even Moran, what you doing with your silver tix

[hidden mortar]

yea I can only come up with one specific counter to it and its way too many units dedicated to one team

[minor egret]

It's a 2 years account and I had to get some Tove and Miranda dupes to start their favorite items

[neon coral]

i love anchor innocent maid

[umbral crown]

im also 2 years old account

you went for C7 tover C7 miranda i see

[hidden mortar]

I'm 100% sure you didnt build tove lol

miranda maybe

[minor egret]

I made the poor choice of investing for UR and SR before arena

[umbral crown]

maybe 101%

[gritty ridge]

Miranda is so cool

Unbiased btw

[hidden mortar]

no u right

[neon coral]

can someone post some good Anis art to help me go to sleep?

[hidden mortar]

even I built her and i'm a pvp go0n

[quick lake]

my pvp investment set me back 500 rocks maybe

[hidden mortar]

miranda helped me break 40bn in this UR

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[quick lake]

what ele

[hidden mortar]

||that wasnt one team ||

[umbral crown]

miranda kinda built but probably i just used her once i think

[hidden mortar]

but she took my water team from ~9bn up to 17bn

[quick lake]

[minor egret]

I did 77.7b this UR but I hit iron

[hidden mortar]

unfortunate

[umbral crown]

wheel

true pvp only build pvp units first

[minor egret]

Biggest hitter was ~160b so I'm just a small fish in a pond

[umbral crown]

a wheel indeed

[charred quail]

This is the rank 1 in rookie. seems like big deficit and a lot of my pvp units arent invested which is why i havent tested in rookie

[hidden mortar]

I dont test against my rank 1

dude is 140 levels higher than me. I test on anyone else who has a semi-competent team

[quick lake]

Im still hoarding my cd boxes

[hidden mortar]

[charred quail]

👍

[umbral crown]

[minor egret]

Nikke 2 soon

[umbral crown]

check other people s team

[umbral crown]

for nikke 4?

[quick lake]

probably until next new chapters maybe

[umbral crown]

[minor egret]

That's like in August

[umbral crown]

sus

[minor egret]

It's only worth if you're already caught up with hard campaign tbh

But hoarders can't help it

[umbral crown]

the moment i have enough to get 1 level i go for it

i never hoard

[hidden mortar]

I'm the opposite of a hoarder, I use every core box as soon as i get it

[minor egret]

Every single gem too

Why don't you have Ada btw?

[hidden mortar]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-gif-21093719

[minor egret]

Emilia I can get it with our account dates

[hidden mortar]

I tried to get her but I didn't. Nikke is my most cursed gacha by a wide margin

[umbral crown]

no ada no emi

[hidden mortar]

in retrospect I should have ticketed ada but w/e

privaty works

[umbral crown]

but but.. you can not have Ada looking at you like she gonna do the thing

[hidden mortar]

well, I DO have almost 3K data boxes and around 1800 credit boxes

but as soon as I get enough core dust i level up

[umbral crown]

then you do save some boxes

https://tenor.com/view/tricked-deceived-betrayed-deception-oh-the-deception-gif-5540567

[hidden mortar]

it isnt really save..I jsut dont see a point to using those rn

if i need them I'll use them

[hidden mortar]

😔 I do still level up asap though. My bottleneck is just core dust ||its gonna be battle data for you very soon ||

[minor egret]

Credits become a problem too at some point

[umbral crown]

not really but dpeends if you level 5 equiptment a lot

like i do, all pvp units with lv5

[fickle furnace]

why does enabling book on rosanna giev so much burst gen

what does that indicate

[static valley]

Someone dies iirc

[fickle furnace]

ic

[umbral crown]

thats the sacc

[fickle furnace]

thanks

[gritty ridge]

Hi rosa

[umbral crown]

hai

[gritty ridge]

No youre rosy

You dont fill a 3rd of the bar when your teammate dies

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/skeptical-futurama-fry-hmmm-i-got-my-eyes-on-you-gif-5707122515404938820

[minor egret]

We can test this

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

If anyone dies, 36% gen

[umbral crown]

we gonna sacc bigboi for a test

[gritty ridge]

Im in a different match tho

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Youre in round 3 im round 1

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I hope besti doesnt shoot 4 rockets directly at my face this time

[umbral crown]

lets make it 5

[charred quail]

whyd this lose?

11% deficit

[gritty ridge]

You put blanc no bisc in p1

[worthy sorrel]

fish already gold

[gritty ridge]

Against a vesti

[charred quail]

oh

[gritty ridge]

Even if it was a different dps than besti, blanc is not tanky

[umbral crown]

here the answer, vesti kills hard p1-p3 wind units and if they with no protection like biscuit or soline, you not gonna see them surviving

but you know, its part of the process to learn pvp

thats why you see blanc mostly in p4 if no biscuit in comp

[charred quail]

ye. hopefully team testing will stick better

from actual runs

[umbral crown]

also anis as only B1 will do same role as vesti but kill p1-p3 water units

[gritty ridge]

Also youre not 2rl natural

Cuz rumani is such a slow clip rl

[hidden mortar]

you may not need RH attack buff to win btw, blanc boosts snow damage quite a bit. So maybe try running the comp like this:
rumani - snow - blanc - centi - (clip rl)

although you risk rumani getting indom

[umbral crown]

but does not fish has T.T.Anis?

[gritty ridge]

Better to drop rh for biscuit

[charred quail]

oh right. the weak elements

[umbral crown]

[hidden mortar]

oh i thought he didnt ahve biscuit lol

[umbral crown]

he has most units

[charred quail]

i do. i just didnt put her cause she is auto win

[hidden mortar]

if you have biscuit then yea jsut drop RH for bisc

[umbral crown]

[charred quail]

auto win means not learning?

or is that incorrect?

[umbral crown]

you need to learn how to use T.T.Anis properly, all meta teams use her

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

Only 1 team can use anis silly

[hidden mortar]

nah if you win you still learn something, but idt anis would have helped you here. Problem is your blanc will die to vesti without biscuit protecting her

[umbral crown]

my bigboi, we in rookie. just 1 team

[charred quail]

oh i see
nvm then

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Oh, run 1.5rl vesti and win

[umbral crown]

[charred quail]

why is this winning now?

[hidden mortar]

biscuit keeps blanc alive long enough to burst

[stone heart]

Positioning p1 p 2 both defender got back up from biscuit. P 3 target indom

[hidden mortar]

cut it a little close though, both of your indoms activate at roughly the same time. Snow has an advantage here because vesti has a long ass reload time

[tight finch]

Vesti wasnt reloading just charging

She got 20 ammo

Indom end between her volley

[hidden mortar]

anti vesti propaganda

but yea vesti not ideal for indom v indom lol

[charred quail]

Onto the next recording. Why did this lose? Tried using the same team against this cause it has noah and biscuit

[hidden mortar]

looks like biscuit got indom instead of snow lol

[raven plover]

biscuit get the indom, if anis got indom you won there

[charred quail]

lol

[hidden mortar]

ohh

[charred quail]

might be cause of core diff?

[hidden mortar]

snow dies early thats why

[raven plover]

anis splash p1-p3

snow is water, anis is elec

now add besti, she dies

[placid bloom]

why people putting unsafe p3 into Vesti Anis

[charred quail]

[charred quail]

my anis cant get indom cause she is core 7

[charred quail]

so that i cna learn

[hidden mortar]

its hard to say who'll get indom when using anis - blanc - biscuit cuz usually you want jackal to guarantee your dps gets it. Generally what I do when I run anis blanc is i make the team slow as hell (so the other 2 units are usually cindy and mihara) so the enemy team bursts before I do. Biscuit will keep anis and blanc alive through the burst, THEN you burst. Since everyone is dead, anis is guaranteed to get indom

[raven plover]

ok lets kill biscuit

[charred quail]

so the team is going to look like this then? And the reason why it wins cause noah invulnerable runs out? and the indom goes to the correct unit?

[hidden mortar]

suffering from success

[charred quail]

fr

[placid bloom]

eh

[charred quail]

i ran out of hits so i cant attempt

[hidden mortar]

idek what was banned there

[charred quail]

👍

[charred quail]

this apparently

[hidden mortar]

lol

[hollow nebula]

Having trouble defeating this in SPA, the first screenshot is opponent's teams, second is my teams.

Only my second team wins, also my swha always dies first, is it because of something from viper's kit?

[charred quail]

ill be back with the recordings tomorrow reset

[placid bloom]

no it's because SG shoot p5 on defense

[hidden mortar]

thats the thing about indom vs indom, the safest way to win is to make sure YOUR indom is slower, but thats gonna take alot of testing to learn how to eyeball burst speeds. You can always plug both teams into nikke.top and see who's bursting when

[placid bloom]

they have double SG and your B3 is not gonna survive

[stone heart]

The damage splash is too masive time to put jackal on the team there

[placid bloom]

I heard you built Nero

[hidden mortar]

nero chad

[charred quail]

yes. very built. 1/1/1 nero. no doll. no overloads

[placid bloom]

seem the pie are liars

[charred quail]

so why does the nero team beat noah biscuit anis?

[tame vessel]

i've come

[placid bloom]

because your Nero has 100% dmg reduc, your Anis has 80%

[hidden mortar]

damage reduction stacking + heals + lifesteal. Its the ultimate wall comp

[placid bloom]

their Anis has 15% from doll

they never win the face to face

plus you have lifesteal

[charred quail]

oh so mega stalling?

[placid bloom]

once their Noah invin runs out their Vesti and SWHA are gone

[fickle furnace]

this nero moran team seems really strong now

[placid bloom]

and then their Anis and Noah gonna be gone not long after

this is basically the standard swing into Noah now cuz Noah has 0 pressure into Nero

[charred quail]

@umbral crown Is the reason why you tell me to yap is so i can refer back to these messages for the stuff that is asked?

[umbral crown]

yes, the more active you are here the more you learn from your and others mistakes to not repeat them. its called experience

[charred quail]

do these rookie arena teams get used in spa? they all seem very expensive

[umbral crown]

not really, rookie teams usually expensive cuz its just 1 team

[placid bloom]

it starts with theory, and then theory becomes experience when you do test swing

if you have good theory usually you get successful test

[umbral crown]

then the test on loses

[placid bloom]

if you have bad theory you get bad test

[charred quail]

I was going to ask so how is this going to translate to spa?

Answered before i asked. chadge

[hidden mortar]

reminds me of something my highschool physics teacher always used to tell us
"practice doesnt make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect"

[raven plover]

walahi how he doesnt know sg atk from your ass how built is your nayuta, neoneoneon, and do you have xmaiden

the enemy has helm p2, just eat it with anis + neon + maiden

[charred quail]

[raven plover]

t1

moran, noah, lib, swha, rumani

t2

nayuta, trina, helm, redhood, lap

t3

thanos, blanc, neoneoneon, biscuit, xmaiden

[hollow nebula]

Nayuta is relatively built but xmaiden and neon are not built. would it work if i swap my team 2 and 3 you think?

[raven plover]

[raven plover]

swaping t3 to t2 gonna win yea I think, but t2 to t3 no

or you could just kill t1 and t2 then

t1
moran, noah, biscuit, lib, thanos (quantum)

t2
nayuta, trina, helm, redhood, swha

thanos is anis

[hidden mortar]

thanis

[hollow nebula]

Thank! but won’t their lib wipe rest of my team tho? i am not sure my nayuta is built enough to finish the rest of the team on her own haha

[hollow nebula]

and wont nayutas indom finish before their indom from blanc? sorry for the questions, i am kinda new to competitive pvp

[raven plover]

redhood boosted nayu should kill jack lib, laplace

also t1 I forgot I use cs on nikke deck, switch besti to lib and put quantum on anis

[charred quail]

keep asking questions otherwise you dont learn. im also new to pvp and im seriously trying to learn pvp so i started asking questions even if the question seems dumb

[raven plover]

yes but your helm should burst first if that happen, now its gonna up to nayuta if she can survives with helm lifesteal but yea nayuta should nuke them

lib burst is delayed

[hollow nebula]

thanks i give that a look tmr, i donno what the cp def gonna be cause i already used all my tries haha

[raven plover]

dw if it fails rail always ready to fix stuffs

[brittle oasis]

Can i ask what is this app?
How can it show CP? Import from Blablalink or something else?

[severe tundra]

@tropic summit my tentative CA teams
I don't got a lot to work with but suggestions would be appreciated

[swift mango]

Where's your Tentative Rei?

[small gale]

I treasured my Centi. Is she bad for PVP now?

[urban wave]

Depends on phase

[small gale]

max

[urban wave]

Brick

[jolly berry]

Can you tell me if there are any websites that build good Nikkei teams for PvP?

[urban wave]

Nikke top, nikke deck

[mystic rain]

what other b3 continuous dps has a range of 5

aside from vesti and snow

[quick lake]

Neon and SBS

Bready too ig

[mystic rain]

ok aside from neon as well

sbs gets blocked by bisc so no

and im p sure bready also gets blocked by bisc no?

cuz distri

[quick lake]

Thats about it

[quick lake]

yes should too

Im sure ppl forgotten how to counter SBS alr

[mystic rain]

i remember running sbs indom and judt get blocked by bisc and its been core memory ever since

[raven plover]

that one bug when noah bisc cant fully block sbs

https://tenor.com/view/nicolascage-breezy-smiling-feelinggood-niceweather-gif-4961337

[mystic rain]

sbs became meta for that one champs season when the bug was active

and i remember losing champs BECAUSE SU FIXED IT MIDCHAMPS

[onyx scaffold]

centi has better burst gen than rumani ? @raven plover

[swift mango]

SpA, probably. But only in very specific cases. Not a problem most the time.
CA, nay, even rarer it's a demerit, it could be a plus depend on your team.

zero rocks today

Wasted 4 rocks in last 2 days to reroll attribute

[hollow nebula]

I was having trouble beating this team in pic 1 because swha was dying to the SGs, if I put my moran at p5 and the rest one spot up starting with bay, would that be able to win?

Second pic is my team. Thanks!