pvp-arena

[hidden mortar]

I beat team 3 with mihara - TTanis - blanc - bisc - privaty

[hollow lagoon]

well my units are 2-3 ele

sad universe

[glass lodge]

Stat check is crazy

[versed mesa]

Having a free ticket left and not using it. What is this... Hell?

[minor egret]

@hidden mortar They got wrecked. Looks like I need to cook something else

[versed mesa]

Can't even use it on C2 or C3 since I don't want to annoy them since they've been chill for two seasons

[tropic summit]

close the game and go do something fun

you can hit em all you want on season reset

[minor egret]

yeah the link died before indom

[hidden mortar]

team 1 should lose to snow white, she goes around noah
team 2 loses to 2rl noah + any nuke
team 3 loses to slower indom, you can mirror his team if you want lol. Safest bet is skip t3 and focus 1 and 2 though

snow indom + privaty/ada for t1
moran noah vesti helm anis for t2

[tropic summit]

@hidden mortar @minor egret my 50 cents:

• T1 biscuitless noah, blanc swha rh biscuit jackal eats it for lunch
• T2 any anti nuke 2RL (e.g. typical noise rumani cindy helmt noah)
• T3 is 3RL or 2.5RL, meaning you can privT or lib 2RL to 1hitko blanc without popping invulnerability

[hidden mortar]

ye

t3 I just mirror matched him and replaced maiden with mihara lol but lib would work better

[tropic summit]

ye slower indom will out trade, can make that call too

[violet prism]

Hello again May I get some advice on improving my current SPA defense?

[tropic summit]

show your 3 current defs and blabla link set to public or box

[violet prism]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?type=combat

[arctic jewel]

Best advice

[candid cradle]

Jackal, vesti and emilia got jumping jackal, Ada and blanc nope
Ada has the least hp of all I guess

[tropic summit]

try this next

• moran noah biscuit swha drakeT
• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT
• nayuta anisTT privT s.anis helmT

[tropic summit]

that's actually ideal, now you need to find out though vestiTU and emilia HP, because that's what you wanna know among linked units

check their HP and we can finish up your indom team

[minor egret]

my game crashed before I could save my teams

[nimble swan]

Hello.
Any chance this is you?

[hidden mortar]

dude spent so many gems this season SU decided to help him

[quaint granite]

They all want your ass bro

[arctic jewel]

@candid cradle you can also check Jackal links in Shooting Range if you're unsure

[tropic summit]

must be extra thicc ass

[minor egret]

I went Moran Anis Priv Trina Lib for team 3

[violet prism]

oh yes that is me, I didnt realize we were in same SPA

[quaint granite]

LOL

[tropic summit]

great, now you guys can become friends and bully CH1 instead

[quaint granite]

Don't wage war on him, trust

[arctic jewel]

🍑

[hidden mortar]

no szilard's c1 is a psychopath

[versed mesa]

Okay I had to calculate since I was curious. The Cp jump from 740 > 741, increased my SP total defense by 450k

[violet prism]

I just tested my attack team on your defense for research

[tropic summit]

average C1 of everyone's bracket it seems

[hidden mortar]

I've seen that guy spend 3K gems hitting szilard and losing every single time. Didnt stop him though

[tropic summit]

just like C1 in @hollow lagoon bracket

[violet prism]

oh man tell me about it

[tropic summit]

[quaint granite]

[violet prism]

that guy boolied me in rookie for months

[arctic jewel]

For the record, I hope Shift Up buffs the new Scarlet in more areas than just her stats

[hidden mortar]

should work, just gotta pop blanc before she gets indom

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

oh quite close but doable, emi already has vigor on?

[hidden mortar]

t1 should be easier for you though, without deficit thats a snow indom angle

[violet prism]

Thank you Rail san Any specific cubes on them?

[nimble swan]

Hello then, nice to meet you
Btw idk what’s your experience with the c1 guy, but he is complete psychopath.
After reshuffle i tried to hold c1 but he attacked me more than 40x that day, although i only used up 5 attempts.
Bro gems indefinitely until he breaks your defense

[candid cradle]

She has adjutant

[candid cradle]

Vest has destruction

[tropic summit]

moran tempering
noah tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering
drakeT any

jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
cindy any
blanc vigor
laplaceT quantum

nayuta any
anisTT quantum
privT tempering
s.anis resil
helmT tempering/vigor

[minor egret]

Should be good to send

[violet prism]

Thanks again

[tropic summit]

oke give emi vigor so you don't gotta worry if you core up vestiTU in the near future, jackal quantum, vestiTU tempering, blanc vigor, ada tempering or vigor

[arctic jewel]

Oh dear god why are people like this?!

[minor egret]

Just noticed his privaty is not even stage 3

[arctic jewel]

Spend gems on pulls for the love of...

[violet prism]

yep yep, he has been in my SPA since I joined and I just have terrible experience with him

[quaint granite]

4000 gems hitting TAARN hard

[tropic summit]

oh wow T3 actually gaps them

[nimble swan]

Ugh.. so you have some history with him lol

[tropic summit]

yeah should be safe to run

[minor egret]

The power of raids

[hidden mortar]

Rh has more hp than snow right?

[arctic jewel]

Excuse me?!

[quaint granite]

Thats right more than 4000 gems spent to hit TAARN

@nimble swan

[tropic summit]

do you know how many neonOS dupes those are? a good 0

[quaint granite]

[candid cradle]

Could you tell me the cubes for the other teams too please?

[nimble swan]

https://tenor.com/view/renge-shrug-non-non-biyori-idk-duck-face-gif-9724581

[quaint granite]

There are people gemming against me too like 2000 gems to get back to Top 3

[nimble swan]

Yeah 40+ attempts, and i did 5 altogether

So he failed close to 40x

[minor egret]

[hidden mortar]

nice, sending my hits now

[tropic summit]

moran tempering
noah tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering
flex w/e

nayuta any
anisTT quantum
helmT tempering
DrakeT any
lib any

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/war-dogs-war-dogs-movie-stressed-gif-5706505

[versed mesa]

I would not even care about being high rank anymore if I had to defend against someone dumb enough to burn thousands of gems in a season

[quaint granite]

Yeah a guy who wasted 2000 gems on me gave up and stays 4th place

[minor egret]

Yes, it's close but SWHA have a lower level cube (tempering)
My Noise died before she could burst but Rumani>Noah went through lol and not sure what happened on team 3 but his Privaty exploded

[tropic summit]

he learned an important lesson

[violet prism]

@nimble swan In any case, nice to meet you good luck in you campaign

[minor egret]

Thanks for the suggested teams btw @tropic summit

[quaint granite]

He'll be back

[arctic jewel]

When angy, no pulls

[versed mesa]

I understand someone, especially a whale who just has gems to burn doing extra against someone else, but there is a point where it is less of a flex and just plain sad

[quaint granite]

[tropic summit]

gapperoni... even assuming he somehow made it to blanc B2 you'd have moran on deficit advantage, which is a war crime on her own

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[hidden mortar]

ok knocked him down to c6 lol. YOu know whats funny, if the guy levelled up literally ONE more time to 601 i wouldnt be able to win. Dont know why he's sticking at 600, but whatever. I'l lbe 541 with this event so even if he does eventually hit 601 its fine

[candid cradle]

@tropic summit
I don't remember if you answered me, I asked if this was ok:

Moran noah biscuits swha rh
Jackal vestiTU Ada blanc Emilia
Nayuta anisTT helmT drakeT liberalio

Another person (neet I think) told me to do this instead:

Moran noah helmT swha rh
Jackal vestiTU Ada blanc Emilia
AnisTT Nayuta Biscuits drakeT liberalio

I don't know what's better

[tropic summit]

poor guy losing twice in a row within seconds

[minor egret]

My Moran have 35% atk too so she hurts

[quaint granite]

I do whale for sync but not gonna spend a dime gemming in SPA like they do lmao

[candid cradle]

W/e what does it mean

[tropic summit]

remove RH for a flex unit, this is the 3rd time i'm telling you i think? bsoda/drakeT/noir/emilia/laplaceT

[hidden mortar]

dude threw a tantrum and hit everyone from c6 all the way up to c1 multiple times on day one of this season, he deserves this

[arctic jewel]

Whaling on pulls or actual resources is understandable though

[tropic summit]

keep biscuit with noah to mitigate vestiTU counters, the nayuta team doesn't need biscuit, it's a glass cannon regardless

[candid cradle]

Ah yes I said I could put noir there but not bsoda/Laplace (they don't have a lot of upgrades rn)

[hidden mortar]

w/e means whatever

[tropic summit]

damn what a child

[quaint granite]

Just need to catch up abit with the rest of the gang thats all esp @hollow lagoon

[minor egret]

He's too weird, I gave up trying to understand his mind. It's been 2 years I'm wishing a reshuffle would take him far away in the ocean or something, he's alone plaguing the whole bracket lol

[arctic jewel]

Just post the Aragorn gif

[tropic summit]

any of these built?

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/defeat-me-win-lose-a-day-may-come-aragorn-gif-16599762272633184369

[hidden mortar]

if we're right about CA speculation it legit wont even matter after this season, so he'd have done all of this for effectively nothing

[candid cradle]

So the teams should be:

Moran noah biscuits swha noir
Jackal vestiTU Ada blanc Emilia
Nayuta anisTT helmT drakeT liberalio

Right?

[arctic jewel]

I love this gif, made my life better

[candid cradle]

Thanks

[quaint granite]

Love it

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, roll with those

[quaint granite]

@shell hazel and @hollow lagoon always used it on me

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/defeat-me-win--k01KRY3WQC7E330YZNRFVJDNWVE

[minor egret]

Where did you even heard that? I have the feeling they would have talked about it in the devs note if it was the case

[quaint granite]

DAMN YOU

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime-girl-running--k01KRY3X76BPVVGQQG31JT8B13D

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/gladiator-vengeance-revenge-maximus-decimus-russel-crowe-gif-16272715

[nimble swan]

Gl to you as well.
Im close to beating Behemoth btw, and i need to push very hard cuz DJ guy really wants my place. And he’s 30 levels above me
Btw if you want to get in c1 - c4 the anis pfp (old rapi pfp) is the easiest target imo.
Or sniping c1 after he goes to sleep.

[quaint granite]

This is a good one for me

[candid cradle]

Someone yes
I can send screenshots of the list of my nikkes in cp order if you'd prefer

[hidden mortar]

@umbral crown 's been in my ear for a while now saying s30 CA is the last one, if it turns out not to be, blame him

[shell hazel]

was some patch notes they said will be coming to more players

so my read on that was top 10 likely? something like that makes a lot of sense

[tropic summit]

no it's fine, as long as noir is invested that's fine

[hidden mortar]

that actually was in the dev notes, they said they'll be revamping CA and making changes to allow more players in during the "later half of the year"

[shell hazel]

yeah we def had end of beta / more participant notes somewhere

[minor egret]

It's this in the recent May 2026 devs note

[versed mesa]

Yeah, but not a single word of the current system ending before that comes, whenever it is

[shell hazel]

yup

[nimble swan]

They did, I just don’t remember the exact wording. But they implied it surely

[hidden mortar]

think rosy got the idea from the fact that the CA rewards only go up to x30

ie, win 30 times, qualify 30 times, etc

[violet prism]

Nice, behemoth is all about timing bursts, you will get to it
DJ has a very good campaign progress so gl
Yep I can get around his defenses once a while, if not I ask here haha

[candid cradle]

(With sr treasure at lv0 tho)
That's my idea of invested in btw (no good ol lines though)

[nimble swan]

Yup

[candid cradle]

Is it ok?

[shell hazel]

what sync are you at?

[candid cradle]

Nice

[violet prism]

483

[candid cradle]

@tropic summit thank you so much

[tropic summit]

if there's a trina, centi, rumani, xmaiden or similar burst gen unit better invested use those instead, else keep noir

[tropic summit]

ya welcome

[minor egret]

I remember when I started the game, I was thinking champion arena was something you unlock at higher level before learning it was in limbo development for all these years

[candid cradle]

Let me check

[hidden mortar]

they took 2+ years to come up with a casino

incredible

[drifting spear]

@tropic summit Hey again. Got a couple questions for some info you gave me this morning.
You mentioned Ada needs more hp than Vesti. My Ada has more with vigor so I placed her in the indom team but I don't understand why she needs more hp

[minor egret]

I was also thinking arena was an active battle and not auto before doing my very first round lol

[versed mesa]

I was convinced at one point that it would never come

[drifting spear]

Also, what cubes would you recommend for those three teams?

[versed mesa]

The button was there from Day 1

[minor egret]

Sir, this is very hard to have a live server for it lol

[nimble swan]

A matter of days and behe is dead hopefully 🫡

[hidden mortar]

[candid cradle]

Among those you said, Centi and rumani have higher cp than noir (centi Is the one with the highest CP but she has phase 3 treasure) but investment is the same I guess (that is max skills level, max friendship, max gear level, BUT no ol lines)

Actually I don't know why there is a difference in cp at this point ahah

About similar burst regen unit I don't know who they are

So I can't check

[minor egret]

We only bully CN players with Pleb and we're 2 against 8 so it's just fair

[tropic summit]

here's the logic of indom teams and links:

assuming

jackal vestiTU ada blanc laplaceT and linked units vestiTU and laplaceT, the only thing you need to worry about is laplaceT and vestiTU HP (laplaceT must be higher than vestiTU)

assuming instead

jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc ada and linked units vestiTU and ada, then you'd need to worry about vestiTU and ada HP (ada must be higher than vestiTU)

the 2 linked units are the 2 highest atk% in the comp, then you gotta check their HP and ensure your main B3 and indom target is lowest HP in link

[hidden mortar]

theres one other EN person in the top 20, raziel. Would be nice if we could find them and have him poke scar dude lol. He's synch 580+

[drifting spear]

@tropic summit Aha. So it's basically ensuring Vesti gets indom instead of Ada. Gotcha

[tropic summit]

slot rumani instead if she's higher than noir, as for centi if phase 3 don't use her, she actively gives enemy burst gen

[tropic summit]

yep correct

[placid bloom]

Jackal LapT link is not that safe, can get one shot by Nayuta B2 cuz double iron

[obsidian tangle]

is there a sure way to beat this in rookie?

[tropic summit]

a very rosannable team

[drifting spear]

I've only got 4 slots for quantum. Should I place those on anyone specific? I've got them on uh, I think Jackal, Noah, Helm and Laplace right now

[obsidian tangle]

no risk of anis getting indom and finishing my team?

[tropic summit]

not if you're on lifesteal and she doesn't reach FB, then she's pepega

[placid bloom]

Anis gets more than half her buffs when she enters FB, it's not easy for her to clean up at just B2

[obsidian tangle]

alright i'll give it a try thanks 🙂

my helm died... 😐

and i have more combat power

[placid bloom]

[candid cradle]

Ok thanks
In the second team is Emilia good or should I use noir instead? Because of cp (noir has more cp, probably because she is mlb+2, Emilia has 0 lb)

[placid bloom]

Vesti cs stronk

[tropic summit]

you reached 2RL B1 and killed both attackers at least?

[hidden mortar]

its anis

[obsidian tangle]

yeah

rosana killed both

[hidden mortar]

I've had high ele anis delete my p2 and 3 blue units before 2rl

[tropic summit]

then lost to anisTT on B2?

[placid bloom]

nah Anis can't solo Helm at just B1

[obsidian tangle]

yeap

[placid bloom]

it's always Vesti or SWHA

[obsidian tangle]

helm died before bursting, SWHA bursted

[placid bloom]

cuz with Anis, that team is fast enough for you to cast Blanc before your SWHA or Vesti shot land

[tropic summit]

and anisTT was on indom then and finished off the rest?

[obsidian tangle]

I recorded give me a min I'll post

[tropic summit]

ye cheers

could run a neonOS if they're that fast in case

[minor egret]

I can relate, lost count of seeing my Helm die before she can burst

[hidden mortar]

then again I was borderline deficit in my fight so maybe thats why anis just smacked her

[minor egret]

Can I even do something with her or it's a brick?

[tropic summit]

what's bricked looks OP af

[unique wagon]

Siren

[tropic summit]

except he's siren resistant

[obsidian tangle]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

B2 happens before siren lands

[unique wagon]

CS?

[placid bloom]

I don't think Mermaid is consistent if his cs high enough

[obsidian tangle]

my helm just melted lol, she is core4 🫠

[placid bloom]

if he has no cs Vesti it's doable

but generally if they are Anis team with Blanc p1, you cannot Mermaid

[unique wagon]

Then just reverse indom with better indom

[placid bloom]

she is too slow

okay you died to

[minor egret]

Last time I checked was after her release and the feeling I got from it was some kind of cope to make it work

[placid bloom]

2 Vesti shot + 1 Emi shot

so their Vesti + Emi hit p1-3 too hard

[tropic summit]

p3 should survive to hit B3 and start lifesteal going, guess we can sacc p2

[placid bloom]

didn't even need 4 Vesti bullet

[unique wagon]

just run Anis Blanc Biscu Helm

[placid bloom]

nah I don't think you can safely put anything p2-3

into that team

[tropic summit]

swha lived to B3

[placid bloom]

you will just have to slow mirror

[unique wagon]

Yes then Anis Blanc Biscu Helm X

[tropic summit]

slow mirrors are boring tho

inconsistent shiet all the time

[placid bloom]

oh wait

Ros killed Vesti before 3rd shot

[tropic summit]

yes p3 will live

[unique wagon]

Anis will lifesteal and win

[placid bloom]

if no crit

[tropic summit]

humor me with

• nayuta trina helmT ros swha

i wanna see if you can outheal

if it doesn't work then mirror indom it is

[obsidian tangle]

my nayuta is not that crazy 😐

[unique wagon]

Why do niche teams

[placid bloom]

I wonder if we can estimate his cs from this to get his exact speed

[candid cradle]

I'm asking because I'm trying to understand if noir/drake/rumani/Emilia have any utility or if they are there only to increase CP

[tropic summit]

nayuta isn't core of that team, just need her to be alive and cast B2

what matters is reaching ros B1 and helmT B3

[unique wagon]

Why not just Anis Blanc Helm and be normal

[tropic summit]

because mirror indoms are boring af

[versed mesa]

90B is not enough on Modernia in SR Museum for Step 20

[tropic summit]

it's flex units, keep emilia as she doesn't feed, hits up to p3 and has better burst gen

[unique wagon]

Do they consent to tests

[tropic summit]

it's rookie

i wouldn't test in SP

[obsidian tangle]

what I mean, is Nayuta will be one life stealing right? everything else just dies, so I assume she needs to do enough damage to outheal anis damage

[tropic summit]

no swha will be lifestealing

nayuta will die once her 9s run out

there's the thing of invulnerability denying lifesteal effects so it's strict on the timing it takes to kill swha in p5

if you wanna win run indom mirror tho

[quaint granite]

Testing Rookie you aren't really losing anything anyways

[tropic summit]

you don't need to humor me if you need the points

[obsidian tangle]

yeah I wouldn't mind trying that tomorrow but I need to get my rank back 🥲

[hollow lagoon]

Phantom treasure when?

[placid bloom]

okay I think I figured out his cs. His Vesti 2nd shot at 25~26 Blanc bullet fired so she should be 8% cs

[tropic summit]

give him your mirror indom team @placid bloom @unique wagon

[candid cradle]

Sooo:

Moran noah biscuits swha rumani
Jackal vestiTU Ada blanc Emilia
Nayuta anisTT helmT drakeT liberalio

Right? Any need to swap nikkes' positions? Or team position (yeah I know you said it's indifferent but maybe it can make a difference if someone attacks you on autopilot)

[tropic summit]

it's correct, positions are correct and you tested links, run those

[placid bloom]

his Emilia fire at 22 Blanc bullet so she is 11% cs

Anis 0 cs

Biscuit 0 cs

seem his team can be Mermaid

[tropic summit]

this does not account anisTT team wide burst gen bonus ye? i had cases where blanc was still casting B2 in time

[placid bloom]

top already accounts for Anis passive, but Idk if he has quantums

[candid cradle]

Rumani cubes? Any?

[placid bloom]

I can add quantums

[tropic summit]

give her quantum if available else any

[placid bloom]

even with 5 quantum it's slow

his cs too low

[tropic summit]

so it's worth trying to siren it

[unique wagon]

Or just run Helm Anis lifeste-

[placid bloom]

well tbh it's not that easy to run Anis Mermaid cuz re-enter

[obsidian tangle]

i did try siren before asking for help, I did swha jackal siren helmt noah and I got rekt 🥲 ahah

[unique wagon]

siren p3

[placid bloom]

Noah unprotected

[obsidian tangle]

after noah burst finished I insta lost, unfortunatelly wasn't recording

[unique wagon]

against tvesti emi...

[placid bloom]

into taunt Vesti

[obsidian tangle]

I did get noah to burst I just lost after it

[candid cradle]

Ok thank you 🙏🏻

[placid bloom]

hmm don't really like the Mermaid approach tbh, it makes the team too awkward

[obsidian tangle]

I'm not sure if blanc managed to burst or my SWha couldn't finish them somehow in the 4 sec window

[tropic summit]

so we know his 3rd rocket doesn't land in time, this should survive?

as far as we know as long as they lose their B3 moran can solo and they won't get indommed

[unique wagon]

until noah doesnt get immune

cus moran and anis took it

[placid bloom]

3rd rocket only didn't land because Ros killed her

normally at 8 cs you land 4 rocket before enemy B1

into natural 2RL team

[tropic summit]

which means noah taunts at 1RL then eats vestiTU uh

[placid bloom]

yeah Noah is dead there

and Mermaid too

[tropic summit]

lovely garbo rookie teams we getting thanks to anisTT

[unique wagon]

anis blanc biscu helm x

[tropic summit]

give him the full team

[obsidian tangle]

like this?

this team is a lot faster than him tho, should I try delay and use a slower nikke instead of SWHA?

[unique wagon]

might mis indom tbh

[tropic summit]

mirror indom

[unique wagon]

but

[placid bloom]

I think this is okay though, you wipe both carries before he can Blanc them and only your Biscuit is dead. Biscuit p3 with Blanc as B2 kinda risky in some ways since you might get a bad indom matchup

without FB bonus enemy Anis should not win the cleanup

you can even maybe get indom onto enemy Biscuit

ofc the main risk here is that their Emilia might survive

p4 is the hardest to deal with

I think that's the hardest part to make this work

if Emi survive you lose

lemme see

[obsidian tangle]

what if I move biscuit to p4? lol

[placid bloom]

your p3 dies before you can cast defensive B2 no matter what if no Ros

cuz Vesti will get full 4 shot

and that is too much damage for you to live

actually lemme see

[unique wagon]

This is the Nayu variant of the same team shud also work

Do not move Biscu to P4

[obsidian tangle]

i mean in the indom team

not on that one

[placid bloom]

nah I don't like Neon at all

scrap that idea

[forest zodiac]

how do I beat this cancer

[tropic summit]

here's another

[obsidian tangle]

💀

[hidden mortar]

something you have in common with SU

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-more-time-gif-4816107

[tropic summit]

nikke top says p1 is stunnable

do you wanna believe?

add quantum and CS% and it becomes a different story although

[forest zodiac]

he has CS% on libby if thats improtant

[tropic summit]

try this and record

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit is this team a indom angle?

[tropic summit]

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
swha tempering
biscuit vigor
moran tempering

[placid bloom]

do you believe

problem is, if I take off all his quantums

it's a lot closer

I mean I still feel like it should be winning

[tropic summit]

you trying to indom cindy?

[placid bloom]

no, SWHA will get it

[tropic summit]

ah jackal but who's linked?

biscuit and swha?

[placid bloom]

Jackal will get Biscuit proc, Cinderella will cast B3 and die

but it's enough to kill off half their team

SWHA will clean up

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

@obsidian tangle wanna run this?

[obsidian tangle]

I think I'll just attack easier targets for now 😐

[placid bloom]

the fail chokepoint is if your SWHA have exactly 10 ammo I think, then she might reload right as indom is ending.

[forest zodiac]

loss

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

• can be sirened
• can be indommed (need to pop biscuit stacks on both p1 and p2, usual shiet)
• can be 2RL privT'ed (anisTT blanc privT biscuit swha/helmT)

[tropic summit]

gotta shift swha further down... these teams are all cancerous

cuz anisTT spike of damage between B2 and B3

i might actively start telling ppl to just ignore these teams

[placid bloom]

oh this one not as bad because they put both B3 in p2-3

especially since one is wind

it's very weak to Vesti

you win with Vesti Anis match speed

even more so if you have Helm with cs

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc cindy biscuit swha

[forest zodiac]

cubes?

[tropic summit]

assuming people have CS% on helmT is gonna suck

lots of ppl here don't min/max on OLs

[tropic summit]

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
cindy tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

finding a stable team would be desirable, everytime we gotta min/max based on CS% and positioning gonna be an headache

[marble saddle]

yeah ok. i was asking cause bro fielded scarlet just to cp gap me

[placid bloom]

well against that team it mainly matters if enemy Anis has cs

[tropic summit]

he's smart, you can't beat him if he gaps

[placid bloom]

if enemy Anis has 0 cs then you win even if your team is 0 cs

[forest zodiac]

loss

[tropic summit]

oh come on blanc buff bug at that this time

[marble saddle]

yeah but im at sync 739 and 2 more lvls later no amount of his unit changes will deficit me under 15%
unless he jumps from 767 to 781 in 1 go that is

[tropic summit]

so cancerous

[obsidian tangle]

wth is that a bug?

[forest zodiac]

swha supposed to live I guess

[tropic summit]

it's delay on blanc B2, which is again dependant on CS%

just ignore those rookie teams, save yourselves headaches

[placid bloom]

like they can have all the stats they want but as long as Anis has 0 cs you wipe both their B3 guaranteed

[tropic summit]

try suggesting ur vestiTU to @forest zodiac might be more consistent

[placid bloom]

if their Anis has cs though then you might lose

[forest zodiac]

anis vestitu blanc biscuit and what?

[placid bloom]

that's the lose condition

assuming your Helm 0 cs

[forest zodiac]

she has actually 2 lines of 4.92

[placid bloom]

yeah should be winning then

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit Was it you who said something about the timing for snipe before a season end worked differently than just for the daily reset, or am I misremembering?

[forest zodiac]

dunno if that helps

[placid bloom]

as long as their Anis isn't faster than your Helm

[tropic summit]

ye i've hit people at x:59:50 and match went through even if it was well past the reset time

unless this has changed, which i don't think it has

[placid bloom]

you will Nayuta nuke them before they can resolve Blanc

[forest zodiac]

so nayuta helm vestitu swha anis?
what about cubes

[obsidian tangle]

if anyone beats my current rookie team I know what I'm switching to

[placid bloom]

just highest level cube, you are going raw stats

[unique wagon]

Did u win

[placid bloom]

you already have enough burst gen

[tropic summit]

he's about to run kuwon's suggestion

[obsidian tangle]

I didn't try more, I attacked someone else with easier teams

[unique wagon]

Bro didnt even try again

[obsidian tangle]

I lost twice to it 😐

[tropic summit]

btw slower indom funzies

[versed mesa]

I'm wondering if I should go for it. Both feel risky though. Too early opponent might yolo if he gets to see the flip, if it has changed I won't get the snipe. It's been so long since I tried but I think I once got a message in the middle of the load that "season ended, returning to main menu" or some shiet, unless it was a nightmare

[obsidian tangle]

I legit sent the guy from rank 3 to rank 1 with my attacks 🥲

[placid bloom]

[forest zodiac]

loss

[tropic summit]

the way i see it you got 2 options

• change to the def he's unfamiliar with and hit him with enough time you know your attack goes through, at that point he could blind attack bet and hope he wins
• hit him on season reset, 10-15 seconds before season ends, realistically he won't have time to attack back

i'd go for the second because last time i did it worked just fine, but that's up to you

[placid bloom]

his Anis hit omega hard

[tropic summit]

it's the anisTT + SWHA wombo combo we saw last times too, the dmg spike in that section is insane

[unique wagon]

Just keep changing def

and dont run Nayuta RH Helm team

[versed mesa]

I have until tomorrow to think it over, also have to be wary if he changes defense himself to try and trip me.

[gaunt pulsar]

going water against anis is a death sentence most of the time, especially on p1-p3

[unique wagon]

Noah makes that team a joke anw its too easy to set up Indom for other 2

[north brook]

Ez slow indom is now anis blanc neon bisc midhara

[placid bloom]

no it's not even SWHA

[forest zodiac]

out of attempts

[placid bloom]

it's actually just his Anis

[forest zodiac]

have to try tomorrow

thanks for trying to help

[north brook]

Neon invuln makes her live pretty well for slow indom

[tropic summit]

there's more suggestions as you can see, try them tomorrow

[north brook]

Even if she doesnt get it u just want full burst active and anis indom

[placid bloom]

look how much damage your p1-3 took by the time his first volley on all his char finished. His SWHA didn't even do 10% of your p4-5

his Anis too fat

[tropic summit]

non ele weak got deleted too at that

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit btw you think this much atk is enough on my testi?

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

[marble saddle]

so more?

guess under 50% aint enough

[tropic summit]

might aswell go 55%

[placid bloom]

the saddest part is he even got a good indom since it's on Biscuit

just takes too much damage

[marble saddle]

as a consequence of too much atk rerolling my ammo got fqed

now i gotta farm for 3 more ammo

[versed mesa]

Can't really spare the rocks but I need to build one more piece on my vesti, it currently has garbo lines, but it is 3 so it's cp pad atleast.

[placid bloom]

tbh going by this HP, might not even need to Nayu his SWHA died before Nayu B2

died to 4th Vesti shot

can probably go greedier and go Blanc Biscuit

his Vesti seem strong enough

[sage patrol]

why do you have so much loaded on a team with zero protection?

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit t2 and t4 should counter t1 and t3 right?

[tropic summit]

T2 no, it just turns it into indom offburst SWHA vs indom onburst swha
T4 ye

[gritty ridge]

T2 no?

I made it slower to counter

[tropic summit]

you stun swha, they burst with cindy and kill your entire team, you then have swha offburst vs swha onburst

it's going to be ammo dependant then and timing on which you're both firing

[sage patrol]

my team that never loses even down 2 breakpoints in blanc snow moran biscuit jackal

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, what would you reccomend for t1, assuming no rosa

[tropic summit]

you need to change approach, making them run offburst swha is correct but you then need a team that can stall her, moran anchorIM archetype for example

[glacial haven]

Any tips for T1 or T2? T3 is a guaranteed win. (In T2, I think penaltys is coming in clutch against me)

[sage patrol]

cant cheese with siren bursts slower than mirror with helm so it wins vs that and it wins vs any team trying to explode snow white because of jackal and biscut protects the rest

[gritty ridge]

Hmmm, my go to is usually slower indom for swha. The person sent the teams so if it doesnt work ill rework t1 into a stall

[tropic summit]

risky but if you confident in a slower indom by all means

[sage patrol]

yea u want slower burst on SW so u win the mirror

still fast enough for moran to eat the siren stun too

im 697 fighting into 740+

[tropic summit]

T1

• moran anisTT lib helmt noah
  T2
• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal (tempering on SWHA, vigor on RH)
  T3
• skip

[sage patrol]

that t2 team dies to sirent cheese

siren

stuns blanc into instant dead

and lib is good for t1 but i think vesti is better... dealers choice

[tropic summit]

he's attacking, there's no siren on the enemy side on T2

[sage patrol]

well yea that team on attack needs to dodge siren than

[tropic summit]

vesti pops both biscuit stacks on p2 which makes bay immune and reduce whole team damage taken, liberalio won't pop biscui stack on bay

i don't think you're actually looking at the enemy teams

[gritty ridge]

Rail what do you think of my current spa setup

[tropic summit]

looks fine

[sage patrol]

im saying for general use not for fighting 1 specific person... i tried that and it just opened up loosing to other people if i mirror defense

[tropic summit]

good threat and little weaknesses all around should do well

[tropic summit]

that's not defense, he's attacking

[sage patrol]

attacking i always moran vs a siren or u just end up dying but other than that what he said looks fine

that stun is the most BS part of pvp... i think they should rework the whole thing so its not a 1 shotting festival personally

[glacial haven]

It's ok to attack?

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven helmt you can put swha instead so you keep T3 as is btw

[gritty ridge]

Siren is very easy to workaround

[sage patrol]

no blank wins vs noah

[gritty ridge]

All 3 of the teams I just posted are immune to siren

[tropic summit]

it's not you're gapped

[gritty ridge]

Thats not a big gap, it may work

[sage patrol]

unless u brute with cp

[tropic summit]

xmaiden hits for ele weak on p2, it's a moran then on deficit

doesn't look too hot but he can try i guess

[gritty ridge]

Id swap rh out for anis and put anis p2

If he has her

[sage patrol]

i just never fight with my noah vs a blanc

[gritty ridge]

It depends on the team

Moran noah can beat blanc teams

[sage patrol]

what about when moran is with the blanc?

[gritty ridge]

It depends on the b3, not moran for the blanc team

[glacial haven]

So, to keep T3 intact, must take Helm from T1.

[sage patrol]

oh im stupid hes the one at defeciet he should still win

unless that trina makes the moran immortal from def

[humble tiger]

What nukes can Crown shield completely block?

[placid bloom]

in PvP? None

[sage patrol]

facts

[placid bloom]

all damage overflows

[glacial haven]

So, it would go like this.

[sage patrol]

t3 looks like you relying on exacuting vesti with rosanna

[humble tiger]

Ah. Alright. It's different from PvE where certain attacks can be blocked.

[gritty ridge]

Crown shield can be decent stall against certain units tho, like I imagin moran+crown could wall sbs without bisc

[glacial haven]

If Rosanna didnt kill her, Nayuta finishes her off

[placid bloom]

uh the shield is gonna evaporate

[gritty ridge]

Ive watched the shield block multiple shots

[placid bloom]

unless you mean her taunt invin, that is not happening in PvP

Blanc-less SBS?

[gritty ridge]

Nah it was indom

[sage patrol]

im in the middle of building rosanna myself alone with label

[gritty ridge]

Shield took 3 shots to kill

[sage patrol]

along

[glacial haven]

I believe T2 is a loss, since i already tried something similar. But nevertheless.

[gritty ridge]

If youre in deficit, its a loss

[placid bloom]

well having Moran be the center for dist dmg is not that fun for SBS either

[sage patrol]

blanc is almost always a win vs the noah

[gritty ridge]

True

Vesti struggles to solo moran in 1 burst cycle at deficit

[glacial haven]

Mine has +40% ATK lines. So I can one shot others pretty consistently.

[gritty ridge]

Swha is good vs moran cuz moran kills herself with taunt

[versed mesa]

The nerve on the sniper He hasn't even logged in after the snipe last night after I assume he did his dailies, to even check if I had hit for the spot back

[glacial haven]

The problem is his Moran. Even when indom has already finished, Moran still a pain to get by

[sage patrol]

thats because of the trina buff making her vamp much more

[placid bloom]

what if he's actually logged in and only refreshing arena page to not give you info on last login time

[versed mesa]

For 23 hours?

[placid bloom]

you never know

as long as he don't go to lobby you never know

[versed mesa]

I do feel like he actually did go over the reset with the snipe and burned one of todays tickets. The take back after I hit him post reset was just a bluff

[glacial haven]

God.... T1 was agonizing....

[versed mesa]

Probably just assumed that I would take it back later, or was willing to gem even.

[solid flare]

is this hte place to ask for Sp arena defence teams?

[humble tiger]

Yup. Just post your Nikke box here and someone will make a team for you.

[solid flare]

box?

[coarse solstice]

#pvp-arena message here is a link to basic spa defense teams as well

[rare ice]

I want to dabble in arena finally, is there a ping or guide on teams ?

Can some actually give me a run down of the things I need to know for arena?

[coarse solstice]

The link I just posted is very helpful for team building.

[rare ice]

Yeah i realized it, but I have a question ,does TMoran change anything from normal Moran ?

[coarse solstice]

Treasure Moran. I believe she wants to be stage three of her treasured item

It adds a lot to her kit for sure

[rare ice]

No i meant in Arena

[versed mesa]

For PvP Moran works as is, but treasure is so worth it anyway since it makes her useful everywhere

[rare ice]

Gotcha

It's because I don't have TMoran yet, I need 1 more copy

Actually now that I think about it, either way I need to build her for Ziz

[coarse solstice]

I think the main thing for PVP that's better is her attack buff

[charred quail]

@tropic summit Ima work on the 1st counter set you gave later tonight since I won’t home till

[rare ice]

I see

[solid flare]

like this?

i got a new vestiTU but i dont think i need to have her as i ahve replacements?

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit the teams won, made a minor change of swapping vesti for cindy to get out of deficit

[shell hazel]

do you have open blabla?

[solid flare]

what is open blabla?

[shell hazel]

blabla shiftypad thing - and open

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad

[solid flare]

HOLY MINT

how do i open it?

[shell hazel]

you need to link it to your nikke account

it's a proper shiftup tool

lets you see stuff like this

[solid flare]

this one?

[shell hazel]

yeah

top right share link

[solid flare]

ok its open, now what?

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTcwNzAzOTIwMzg0NTU4MjkxMjE%3D

[shell hazel]

show me full privacy settings please

[solid flare]

this?

[shell hazel]

yep

I see it now

[severe tundra]

@tropic summit
Do you think these match ups are still good? there were some tweaks on their side.

[unique wagon]

Didnt know Nayuta can 1v1 Moran

[coarse solstice]

Just peeked while I'm on my break but could try this

[unique wagon]

I prefer Nayuta with clip SG variant

[coarse solstice]

CS% isn't required for these team.

Haven't tried it, I don't get to test in SPA 😴

[tropic summit]

the SWHA one looks ok
the cindy team it's important you don't pop invulnerability on cindy

and anisTT kinda will

can lower the risk by running moran jackal lib helmT anchorIM

this will retain lethal on lib and prevent popping invulnerability on cindy

you'll kill essentially everyone minus nayuta

[coarse solstice]

Hi Rail

[tropic summit]

@severe tundra since you need helmt and swha in the other team, teams become likes this while retaining same logic

they feed you via nayuta and moran, might aswell slot a jackal

we keep 2 SRs so you've little dmg in p1 and p2

should prevent biscuit stack on moran and cindy plenty

[tropic summit]

i expect no less from you

[tropic summit]

take ur time

[severe tundra]

Is there a strategy to sacrifice mihara to use Rosanna's ability to increase charge bar and also poison the enemy team with Mihara's death ability

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 both were agonizing if anything

if it works it works i guess

[tropic summit]

for attack ye, for defense you can easily bypass it, because rosanna would need to be linked to not lose cloak.
SWHA heavily nerfed her on defense teams because she reveals her cloak, unless linked, at 1RL

having to slot jackal with rosanna is expensive and limits team building

[severe tundra]

dang

[unique wagon]

Moran Noah Biscu SAnis SWHA defense is trippy

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit Funny thing happened to C9. It changed. I am not sure I can beat him down though

[unique wagon]

SAnis burst variant counters Cindy

[tropic summit]

you're in range and realistically the only one you could attempt defending against, as ch10 and ch8 would gap you

lemme see if the teams are fine as is

[viscid urchin]

If it matters, I did upgrade PrivaT yesterday

[tropic summit]

they're running actually half decent teams here

do you've the link to your blabla around

[unique wagon]

Ah yes the Bay variant, the better but also no one builds Bay anyway

[viscid urchin]

I figured. They are a regular PvP player and very active https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTIxMDYzMDg5NTk3MjAxOTQzNzU%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTIxMDYzMDg5NTk3MjAxOTQzNzU%3D

[solid flare]

is bay required for SA defence?

[tropic summit]

wew privT jumped to first spot in your roster now

[viscid urchin]

10/10/10 will do that a MFer XD

[unique wagon]

You can probably wipe that Bay with Nayu + Wiper.

It's 3 RL without Quantum.

Blanc might work too.

T3 is free.

[coarse solstice]

No

[unique wagon]

Use Anis Blanc Helm against T1, Noah SWHA against T3.

[tame vessel]

why r u guys here

[coarse solstice]

I posted some teams for you to try up a little bit if you want to check them out

[viscid urchin]

BTW this guy lost to this new DEF. The dude is like 2.1+ mil co in rookie

[unique wagon]

That is in fact one of the best rookie defense.

[tame vessel]

biscuit n blanc too op

[unique wagon]

No, actually Helm is the carry here with lifesteal.

The current PvP meta is lifesteal, immune, indom.

[viscid urchin]

I’ll take it.

[tame vessel]

whats biscuit even do

[viscid urchin]

Makes defenders invincible

[unique wagon]

Immune.

[tame vessel]

i dont have her

[unique wagon]

Important here so Anis and Blanc don't get popped.

But this team is considerably weaker without HelmT.

Makes sense for SpA but for Rookie probably not.

[tame vessel]

swha better than vesti?

[unique wagon]

You're not countering 'god' PvP comps like Nayu/Blanc Anis Biscu HelmT anyway.

[tropic summit]

@viscid urchin let's go with this, post matchup to confirm CP first just in case

[solid flare]

my privT issnt invested.

[coarse solstice]

You can sub in another DPS of your choice there.

[shell hazel]

what teams did you rec?

[coarse solstice]

It was just a quick once over. On my break.

[viscid urchin]

Wait is Biscuit on T2 or T3? Unless I am blind, she is listed twice

[tropic summit]

change T3 to moran noah privT swha anisTT, i forgot to edit T3 as i was messing with the same types on another matchup

[hazy lantern]

Hello, I plan to switch to these comps for my SP arena teams
Could I ask for some thoughts and opinions?

[tropic summit]

T1 fix position to

• jackal vestiTU rumani blanc laplaceT (keep trina if rumani not built)
  T2 ok
  T3 this is a mess, reconsider

[hazy lantern]

Oh I performed worse than I thought

[tropic summit]

the key points here are:

• don't run blanc p3 if possible, p4 ideally, p5 at worse
• T3 is too vulnerable and abusable

[hazy lantern]

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit would this work then?

[versed mesa]

@covert lintel I checked just for a goof. If I went full CP pad with my defense teams, my teams would be mostly absolutely beatable, but my total CP for SP would be over the 10m+

[tropic summit]

T2 needs to be against T1, rotate that team
the privT team is correct

[viscid urchin]

Done. Commencing attack on command

[tropic summit]

so vestiTU is against their bay and your privT against their cindy, if so you can run them, CP is fine

[viscid urchin]

Attacking then?

[real ore]

For some reason the guy I've been fighting against has been suddenly unable to beat my team and I made absolutely no changes at all. I'm a bit bamboozled

[tropic summit]

if the matchup is vestiTU vs their bay team and privT vs their cindy team yes

[viscid urchin]

Then attacking in 3…2…1

[hazy lantern]

I do apologise if this is too much to ask but how could beef up my third team with the units that are left?

[tropic summit]

• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc laplaceT
• moran siren swha lib noah
• anisTT bay helmt biscuit s.anis

Edit: fixed speed balance on T2 and T3 while keeping team logic

[viscid urchin]

Curse your bones and curse your hide.
May the shark drag ye under the tide

[tropic summit]

ok check who's on top

give me the ch6-7-8

[tropic summit]

ch7 might be in range

give me their teams

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-where-the-big-boys-play-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-seven-bucks-big-boys-gif-17539923

[hazy lantern]

Thanks a tonne! I'll switch to those immediately

[viscid urchin]

NGL that looks competent to me.

[tropic summit]

all abusable teams

we gonna need to be careful on CP on the other hand

[viscid urchin]

…are you some kind of PvP wizard sage guru? Because I never in my life imagined I could ever hit Challenger, let alone climb HIGHER

[tropic summit]

i dabble a bit in pvp

[viscid urchin]

Well your “bit” is like magic to me XD

[shell hazel]

else I don't hate @coarse solstice teams either - #pvp-arena message
you can put SWHA where PrivT it and flex in a diff B3 at p4

[tropic summit]

remind me your centi is phase 2+ treasure?

[viscid urchin]

Nope. Not treasured at all. Only SR5

[tropic summit]

ah great

[solid flare]

my centi is fully treasuered, and thus bricked?

[tropic summit]

show CP with these

anis in T2 is anisTT

[tropic summit]

she actively gives enemy teams extra burst gen, some mad lads are using her in slow cindy teams at least

[viscid urchin]

Right, I will try. Just gimme a minute. Doggy needs his walk

[covert lintel]

weak
My actual cp is 9.37m, it would reach 10m when 741

[solid flare]

is that kind of like using TTanis as renter on cindy slow teams?

[versed mesa]

10m at 941? Now that is weak

[shell hazel]

oh no lol

[tropic summit]

it's worse

[shell hazel]

centi is one of the highest cp units now so it's even clearer why

[covert lintel]

Oh wait why 941

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/hard-writing-supernatural-funny-spn-gif-4623572

[solid flare]

so i should not use centoi on defence

[versed mesa]

My sniping adversary just likes bricking himself on purpose He completely missed that one day awhile ago, and he often doesn't log in for over 24 hours. The resources drain is real

[tropic summit]

in SP arena no, in CA maybe

[solid flare]

so i need to redo those teams that were advised to me just now?

[tropic summit]

they gave you centi?

oh it's those from hippo

yeah sub centi with trina or rumani

[shell hazel]

actually trina was original idea

[versed mesa]

They gave him a centi, he needed a miley

[shell hazel]

but she has -100K cp than centi

I didn't realise centi was fav item'ed it's not common 😛

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't either

[shell hazel]

good catch though

[tropic summit]

in fact i asked Lume earlier cuz she's also pretty high up but fortunately not his case

[glad meteor]

🍌

[shell hazel]

🍌

[solid flare]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTcwNzAzOTIwMzg0NTU4MjkxMjE%3D do any of my charge speed rolls affect my teambuilding?

[shell hazel]

I mean I suppose he could lean into the slow cindy with centi angle?

would free up burst gen for 2 other teams

[viscid urchin]

Here they are

[hazy lantern]

Ah the team 2 here got nuked before they could burst, would it be alright if I swapped siren with someone else?
Everything else worked amazingly though so thanks again for the comps!

[shell hazel]

are you on deficit?

[hazy lantern]

Nope

[shell hazel]

show teams please

[hazy lantern]

Oh I can't check the enemy's teams since I'm nnow above them in ranking ;-;

[shell hazel]

ah the team 2 got it

tired read it as all the teams 😄

[coarse solstice]

Tbh my bricked cent hasn't decided a game yet outside of helping against SGs in CA

[tropic summit]

blanc vigor
vestiTU tempering
rh vigor
biscuit vigor
jackal quantum

moran tempering
anisTT quantum
cindy tempering
swha any
noah tempering

centi vigor
trina quantum
helmt any
lappy quantum
rumani quantum

once these are set run them

[shell hazel]

I mean it's 2RL moran/noah besides could be fine? I didn't really get to see the diff in action

[tropic summit]

those were defense teams tho, they won't work situationally because you need to arrange teams based on what you attacking

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel out of curiosity is there a guide for dummies like me to learn how PvP arena works?

I was content before to just remain in D2 but if I am just going to be a punching bag again for people, I can’t simply rely on you and @tropic summit every time I start getting beat back.

[tropic summit]

basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

tierlist x unit (outdated but has most core units)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit

[coarse solstice]

I mean someone could take advantage of it, but I don't think it shows who has favorite items in SPA

[tropic summit]

you can tell by the colour of the icon

[shell hazel]

yep it does

been that long huh? 😄

[coarse solstice]

I don't get to see that screen in SPA anymore 😅

[shell hazel]

I don't know of any maybe something in le pins

[tropic summit]

have you become as f2p as Hime?

[versed mesa]

I used to be like that, long ago

[cedar sorrel]

Are these wins?
Stun the nayuta
Nuke the link
Uhh maybe lib wipe after noah? (This is throwaway)

[tropic summit]

dayum

[coarse solstice]

Hime is like 100 sync ahead of me I whale on skins and mlbs (not core dust)

[tropic summit]

you checked deficit and you're not in deficit?

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah are cp is very close

Our* bruh

[tropic summit]

hmm

[cedar sorrel]

Wait

This rh mermaid team needs to be positioned differently

[tropic summit]

T1 assuming that's not a siren resistant nayuta will work
T2 assuming enemy doesn't reach B2 in time win (check on nikke top)
T3 deficit, rip

[tropic summit]

swha blanc rh siren jackal

you don't need to worry about blanc in p2 if they don't get to nayuta, they've little p2 dmg pre burst

[cedar sorrel]

I changed it to swha jackal blanc rh mermaid but idk if mermaid pos matters for the stun?

[tropic summit]

no. get yourself that RH buff

[viscid urchin]

Alright they are set (side note: I will need to look into upgrading Tempering, Quantum, Vigor) because I was running out of space for them

[cedar sorrel]

Oh yeah bruh I did it again

😭 😭 😭

[tropic summit]

ok show updated matchup with cubes, i doubt you get kicked in deficit anyhow

[cedar sorrel]

T3 isnt deficit right? Does it win then?

[tropic summit]

oke run them

[versed mesa]

[viscid urchin]

3…2…1

…
…….
……………..
WHAT!?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1--k01KRYH5YZERYJ4QWEZDAARMQK2

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

i don't think you remotely understand how good your box is actually @viscid urchin

you've pretty much everything and decently built at that

[shell hazel]

how is 3rd team working? helmT snipe scar?

I figure if scar b3 you dead

[tropic summit]

ye enemy is 2.5RL at best unless you feed them

so we abuse no feed team to keep them 2.5RL, which means bye link at 2RL

[shell hazel]

[viscid urchin]

No…no I do not.

Again I should be a right novice PvP because I don’t pull for every character. I just pull on half+full anniversaries and new years.

And am way too casual about it

[tropic summit]

i dunno but your casual got yourself a good pvp box

either way now you sit and let's see if they reclaim your rank

challenger will be contested so expect ppl hitting you

[versed mesa]

I just realised the C3 in my bracket has bricked centi... Hmm

[tropic summit]

if you're lucky and still there tomorrow we can try poking higher CH ranks

[gritty ridge]

It not bricked anymore

I know of secret new techs

[coarse solstice]

Centi was never bricked she's perfect

[shell hazel]

it's because we built biscuit and vesti some

[gritty ridge]

Not ones ill use but there are now secret centi techs

[gritty ridge]

She reminds me of gemma from mh wilds

[coarse solstice]

She's a nice lady

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit so this has been a VERY productive 2 days

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/maniwonders-cascadewallet-rfid-rfi-dwallet-wallet-gif-13938739

[tropic summit]

oh the guy we beat yesterday did try to reclaim

[cedar sorrel]

Nice max treasure

[viscid urchin]

Roughly a few hours into losing his spot yes

[tropic summit]

cross ur fingers that you manage to retain this rank and tomorrow we can bully higher ranks

[cedar sorrel]

T3 didnt win. You can lib into noah right? What should I have done different?

[coarse solstice]

You're right!!!! They're twins

[viscid urchin]

…bully even HIGHER ranks?

[tropic summit]

if CP allows ofc

[gritty ridge]

Even if cp doesnt allow

Bully the high ranks

[tropic summit]

no you can't, you need to run slow lib or cindy if you wanna do that

[gritty ridge]

I say this as a high rank myself

Give us something to do

[versed mesa]

No wait I am high ranks

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit what kind of a monster have you created?

[tropic summit]

give me a good built vestiTU and swha then this happens

[shell hazel]

[cedar sorrel]

If a noah team is 2rl what speed would you want for lib? Like 4rl?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-happy-excited-gif-5625959

[viscid urchin]

These guys have been sitting on these thrones for like at least a full year. The only thing that changed was that one whale (DOO121) was brought in from a shuffle and has remained in this bracket since

[gritty ridge]

Yeap

[tropic summit]

for cindy you could potentially on hyperbuff run 2.5RL, because followups can retain lethal
for lib you need 4RL

the ideal for cindy is still 5RL although

[shell hazel]

maybe don't hit the top ones

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sad-gif-10692536301102666475

[cedar sorrel]

What would hyperbuff look like?

[tropic summit]

you can probably attempt up to ch5, ch4 looks out of range

[tropic summit]

B1 and B2 buffers, noise and blanc or noise and nayuta or similar

[viscid urchin]

My word

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-gojo-nah-id-win-gojo-satoru-gojo-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-722934852497975468

[gritty ridge]

I like these power gaps

Reminds me of home

[cedar sorrel]

And for 5rl do u just put in ur highest CP defenders + biscuit to stall?

[tropic summit]

look up slow cindy on YT or in this chat

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

there's a bunch of videos for sure

but ye it plays around defenders + biscuit and stalling dmg on p1

[coarse solstice]

Slow 2B if your brave enough

[gritty ridge]

Ura spreading propaganda again

Ive gotta start spreading bready indom propaganda

[shell hazel]

the dream can never die

[cedar sorrel]

Okay everything goes I guess

[tropic summit]

he keeps forgetting his wife is miranda tho

[tropic summit]

your B2 needs to be alive tho

good luck keeping mmast alive

also there's no burst gen in there

[coarse solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[tropic summit]

you gonna burst in 2027

[gritty ridge]

[cedar sorrel]

First vid I found here and it won

[tropic summit]

you won with THAT?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/noir-nera-nikke-picmix-keep-smiling-gif-11978285529692741375

[cedar sorrel]

Idk what the archetype is supposed to look like

[cedar sorrel]

They did

[tropic summit]

ah oke

because it's a situational team, would be wild if it happened to be correct for your matchup

[cedar sorrel]

This looks a bit more normal

These teams look wild to me tho

[gritty ridge]

Why do you keep finding ein teams

[hollow lagoon]

i will defeat you one dfay

[coarse solstice]

Because Ein is incredible

[cedar sorrel]

Idk man no one really posta videos with the text "slow cindy"

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[gritty ridge]

Youre still 300 sync behind Lil fella

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[cedar sorrel]

I was in 2025 at some point see people use Rei

[cedar sorrel]

Thanks bro 🫡

[cedar sorrel]

Is mihara needed or just any bad burst gen guy? Like rrh?

[gritty ridge]

Mihara is there to harrass the enemy team with DoT

Thats the standard setup

Ein can be used in place

[cedar sorrel]

Oh cuz ein has the drones

[cedar sorrel]

How built does your cindy need to be for that?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mace-windu-star-wars-1--k01KRYJ6PVSYXGB1YTRGA4JMHJG

[gritty ridge]

Moran be like

[tropic summit]

is that MF miranda linked p1? you damn genius

sassuga miranda husbando

[gritty ridge]

[versed mesa]

When are you hitting 741?

[gritty ridge]

C7 miranda goes brrrr

Wait

@tropic summit think I could win with bready indom

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit @shell hazel and literally everyone else here that I am forgetting, THANK YOU!

I was honestly in a truly angry place a few days ago when I realized that my previous stuff was not working and was at my wit’s end. And now I somehow got to challenger, which I never intended nor aimed for.

But this…this was exhilarating. There is the added benefit of finally punching back at those that crushed me before, yes. But it’s much more satisfying to know that despite my hoarding nature I somehow was given powerful enough Nikke to reach it.

I dunno if I can necessarily maintain it, but it was fun nonetheless. I’ll try my best to learn about how these matchups work (thanks to the links). If I don’t understand them, is it permissible to ask here on how to interpret the information being told?

I can’t promise to make for a good student or necessarily a smart one, but I will give it a try anyway

[tropic summit]

keep a positive mindset and keep improving, you won't retain easily CH ranks but you got the tools to learn and improve, and ofc to be able to fight back

ask for help when you get stuck, but don't worry about struggling a bit early, you need time to learn

[versed mesa]

They haven't kicked me out so I think you are fine

[viscid urchin]

Actually…I think I might as well upgrade Centi SR doll to 15 now that I have some breathing room

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmm could but will be kinda RNGy unless you estimate reload window and ammo counts on both sides

[shell hazel]

as you hoard you prob got mats 😄

me I'm always out lol

[gritty ridge]

Id need to put wingman on bready

[tropic summit]

hold on with that

[cedar sorrel]

Im so broke my jackal recently got upgraded to sr10

[tropic summit]

priority on biscuit, rumani, noah if those aren't SR15 yet @viscid urchin

liberalio noise and vesti aswell ofc

[hollow lagoon]

when ur 801?

[gritty ridge]

Im ngl, I think my bisc is still sr5

She is

[cedar sorrel]

Bisc p4 life

[arctic jewel]

Be very careful with Centi, if the item gets to Phase 2, then your Centi becomes bricked. So don't do that!

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/last-oasis-soontm-soon-getting-there-last-oasis-soon-gif-4013716823466037873

[gritty ridge]

Either p4 or I kill her

[hollow lagoon]

same

[cedar sorrel]

Dayum

[gritty ridge]

I use sac bisc surprisingly often

[hollow lagoon]

my rumani is still sr5 as well

[cedar sorrel]

Whats this sac bisc strat ur talking about

[viscid urchin]

Vesti and Libby already SR15 iirc. Rumani, Biscuit and Noah? Sure, I can do that. I believe I have 5K blue, 1800 purple and 800 gold kitslying around

[shell hazel]

actually boosting your core def team units is good too

[gritty ridge]

One of my deficit teams is made to go against 3 range splash, i put bisc in p2 so she dies to feed rosa

[cedar sorrel]

And she doesnt need to be alive to give defenders stacks?

[gritty ridge]

She does

[viscid urchin]

My one lament is OG Scarlet. No, not that I spent resources on her. But that she isn’t AS good anymore in Arena because I love her

She was my second Pilgrim (after Harran) so she is special to me

[cedar sorrel]

So u just get like 1 stack and then explode

[gritty ridge]

She just dies after p1 blanc gets it so her use is gone

[cedar sorrel]

Nice

Thats funny actually

[tropic summit]

bigboi already tainting people with expert strats... hopefully they won't backfire

[gritty ridge]

If I became a commander my nikke would hate me

[cedar sorrel]

I could use some deficit strats honestly

[versed mesa]

She was my first Pilgrim. I had no idea she was a pvp goddess until like 2 years into the game

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[gritty ridge]

They would hate me cuz id let them explode so I can beat other commanders

[cedar sorrel]

Im getting gapped supreme in ch

[viscid urchin]

So like this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPhYBkF_NM&pp=ygUKZGJ6YSBsZWFybg%3D%3D&ra=m

[tropic summit]

she aint getting benched anytime soon, this team is still keeping her strong af

[gritty ridge]

My deficit strats wont help anyone in my brackets

[cedar sorrel]

Wait rapunzel is a teamwide stun?

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit you're on tv!

[jagged sedge]

This dude bought 150 synch levels just to go from rank 5 to 1. 300 gem difference in rewards.

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[cedar sorrel]

Wtf

Why isnt she used more?

[shell hazel]

rapu stun is conditional

<30% hp

[gritty ridge]

I imagine the sync levels also help in campaign and union raid

[shell hazel]

at b1

[gritty ridge]

Rapu didnt have a reliable way to stun before x.soline

[cedar sorrel]

Rapu below 30% or the enemies?

[gritty ridge]

And even then, rapu+x.soline means you need alot of gen

[gritty ridge]

Rapu

[cedar sorrel]

And how does xsol help rapu?

[jagged sedge]

@gritty ridge Once you are at 600, you are good for hm. This guy is at 780. I thought ur was capped at 400

[shell hazel]

my rapu stun worked on all 3 qual matches in last CA lol

[gritty ridge]

Ur has no cap

[tropic summit]

ye soline just made it way easier and less situational

[versed mesa]

Rapu means crab in Finnish (it has nothing to do with the convo)

[cedar sorrel]

How does xsol help rapu stun

[cedar sorrel]

Thanks for the info 💪

[tropic summit]

still more of an attack and CA team though, won't work aswell on rookie and defense

[gritty ridge]

Rapu also can only really be taken advantage by scar, which means you need minimum helm, anis, or swha on the team

[shell hazel]

her hp tickets

fsoline stops nikkes dying

[cedar sorrel]

Ur running it without xsol how did it work so consistently?

[shell hazel]

rng 😄

[versed mesa]

Dude I'm yoinking that team for my attacks

[shell hazel]

truly the rng arena

[cedar sorrel]

Oh dang okay

[shell hazel]

fsoline too slow though usually

[cedar sorrel]

I thought rapu was ran in pvp for the revuive but instead shes just a stunner

[gritty ridge]

No shes also used for the revive

[cedar sorrel]

Oh fr?

[gritty ridge]

And her heals

[cedar sorrel]

Damn I need rapu

[gritty ridge]

Not really

[cedar sorrel]

Really she sounds very good

[placid bloom]

she is as expensive to build as a new house

[gritty ridge]

I dont use rapu at all

[placid bloom]

[cedar sorrel]

Oof she needs specific lines?

[gritty ridge]

I mean, rapu used for stun is cheap af to build

Throw an r15 doll and shes done

No ol

[tropic summit]

needs 4OL, skill wise doesn't rly matter, 4/4/4 as for OL lines nothing specific but CS% helps as always

since she needs to survive heavy punishment, SR5 is kinda minimun requirement

[cedar sorrel]

That doesnt sound too expensive

I thought it was like rosanna kinda deal since he said a new house

[gritty ridge]

Rail youre gonna brick his rapu

[cedar sorrel]

Which rapu

[gritty ridge]

Not the free one

[tropic summit]

why? you assuming he fights pepega damage dealers?

[gritty ridge]

If you give her that purple doll, good luck getting her to stun consistently

[coarse solstice]

Imagine Rapu actually stunning

[cedar sorrel]

Theres no rapu's being bricked

[gritty ridge]

Mine does

[coarse solstice]

She'll come home trust

[tropic summit]

oh you mean for CA

[coarse solstice]

The psyop continues

[tropic summit]

does it even matter for CA, thing is a RNG feast

[cedar sorrel]

Im not getting what is it ch3? any time soon anyway

[tropic summit]

this assumes you run her with soline tho

[hazy lantern]

Thanks again for the team comps Rail! Swapped a unit to specifically combat this guy and now it's working immaculately

[coarse solstice]

No different then siren and soda stuns. Adds a couple extra points of variance in your favor as long as it doesn't take away from the build

[gritty ridge]

This also works with jackal

[tropic summit]

he'd need to get her linked, that costs rocks

a choice he can make i guess, i wouldn't

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh, just run anis

[cedar sorrel]

This will be a problem to solve for sure in 2028 when I pull rapu and noah

[tropic summit]

and what if he wants anisTT in other teams

[gritty ridge]

No I mean anis

[tropic summit]

dafuq have you been cooking

pvp mains are made of something else

[gritty ridge]

Anis, the clip rl

The sr unit so her base stats are low af and non ol rapu can link over

[cedar sorrel]

I gave her a blue doll and then I pulled all the batteries and now I dont use her anymore

[viscid urchin]

Even made them waste gems for it

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

Rich?

[versed mesa]

My Trina and Scar would probably get the link if I tried that

[small gale]

who are the best attack support for snow white HR from B2 and B3 off burst?

[gritty ridge]

5 rocks

[shell hazel]

Rail is too powerful