pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Hard to say what happened.

[placid bloom]

it's high damage glass cannon Blanc

but Blanc not protected so easy to kill

[tropic summit]

T1

• swha blanc rh centi jackal (tempering on SWHA, vigor on RH and blanc, quantum on centi and jackal)
  T3
• anisTT nayuta biscuit neonOS helmT
  T2
• rumani siren privT liberalio noah

[warm monolith]

Sorry man, i lost my two attempts

[swift mango]

Easy if I actually know his roster.

[last vigil]

this time swha survive

[placid bloom]

well he said he didn't build Vesti, that's the issue

if his Vesti built this is easy swing

[tidal lichen]

i assume siren died before stun

[placid bloom]

stun doesn't matter, Noah Moran doesn't beat Blanc

[river dune]

Hey guys can someone help me beat this back?

[placid bloom]

without Biscuit

[last vigil]

I have most nikke

Its rookie

[tidal lichen]

stun will make vesti burst not snow

[warm monolith]

Thanks for the teams though

[versed mesa]

I took my spot back but the guy is currently online. I wonder if he will hit back or leave it and do second later closer to reset

[placid bloom]

doesn't matter, SWHA off burst still wipes with Blanc

she does that much damage

[tidal lichen]

i dont think she wipes a properly built moran

[placid bloom]

it's basically 0 dmg reduc after Blanc

with 2.5HP bars after triple heal

that's not that hard to burn through

[tidal lichen]

nearly 100% lifesteal

[opaque hemlock]

😦 i’m still noahless but can someone pls help me build a team for sp arena?

[placid bloom]

0 buff team though, unless you count Helm as .5 buff

Moran as another 0.5 buff

so 1 buff Moran

[last vigil]

Maybe idk. My moran have 4 ele instead of atk/def

[placid bloom]

into Blanc SWHA

it doesn't look winning

plus the Drake probably live long enough even to give FB buff to SWHA

[tidal lichen]

i dont think snow is dying either there

with helm

[tropic summit]

you need 2055k+ CP

2RL scarlet is fine but you need to increase CP there

post your first 2 lines and let's see what you can pad

@glad meteor what a bad boy

[placid bloom]

hmm seem like a lot of PvP not built almost entire 2 top row is PvE

[swift mango]

Since it's mostly PvE units here. Idk if you had something like LapT.

But that's 40 level above them... So you should be able to gap them with Auto team. Hit auto team and check the CP.

Or try

Anis+Blanc+Helm+Biscuit+Cindy

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/macho-testosterone-shoulders-buff-tough-gif-952160343688375892

[last vigil]

ye more into raiding but trying to be decent in pvp too. @swift mango I have lapT but no OL

[river dune]

Of the whole team or just Scarlet?

[placid bloom]

maybe your SAnis ele high enough to 1-2 tap their SWHA if you can deficit them

then their speed drop a lot

[last vigil]

auto

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14770887436103544323

[placid bloom]

how fat your SAnis

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/mob-psycho-mob-psycho-season3-reigen-shigeo-reigen-arataka-gif-27035693

[placid bloom]

yo I see MPriv too

[placid bloom]

maybe SG the angle

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

surely SAnis MPriv can tap SWHA before she fire 1 shot

and then Drake tap Blanc

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• moran siren trina lib swha
• nayuta anisTT helmT neonOS naga
• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT

Notes

• build up/finish building jackal, blanc, biscuit, trina
• wishlist noah
• consider getting bay treasured as you lack anti nuke units

[last vigil]

My mpriv doesnt look like my sanis. 52 ele 7% atk

[tropic summit]

post your box or blabla link set to public

[opaque hemlock]

thanks a bunch!

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

If you auto don't need Blanc, better use SBS or Anis.

their CP/yours around 0.7 and you are good.

[shell hazel]

🍌

[last vigil]

just full atk with no burst?

[swift mango]

Yeah 30% deficit you auto attack their team.

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit do you have an idea for this?

[last vigil]

i guess like this

[tropic summit]

show all 3 teams and your CP

[scarlet adder]

3rd one is bisc blanc stanis

[tropic summit]

that's fine show it

[swift mango]

Need to check their deficit against you. If they got 25-30% deficit you are good.

[river dune]

I mean you have my box on your chat

[tropic summit]

oke we skipping this

you don't have noah ye @scarlet adder ?

[scarlet adder]

still no noah

[tropic summit]

is their nayuta siren resistant?

[placid bloom]

Mihara p1, Cinderella p5

[glad meteor]

cant you giga cp gap with sg and plapppp them

[placid bloom]

you want Mihara to die and Cinderella to block Drake a little

Mermaid p4 cuz she actually does damage faster out of all the unit early

[scarlet adder]

do you mean if she can be stun before bursting or whether taunt protects her?

[tropic summit]

can you link it or post it again?

[river dune]

Ok

[swift mango]

22%...
AnisTT+Libby+ASS+Flex+Cindy.

How much is that CP?

[tropic summit]

there's no taunt, just need to know if they've helmT on 8%+CS and jackal on 11CS%+

as in if you already tested siren stunning that

because it can trivialize it without having to risk anti nuke

[last vigil]

ass who

[scarlet adder]

i have multiple videos of the guy, can look whether i tried to stun it

[swift mango]

Anis sparking summer is ASS

[tropic summit]

check if your siren can stun that nayuta p1 or if they're siren immune and we can increase odds

[swift mango]

Should win

20%

[scarlet adder]

this team i see was stunned

[tropic summit]

there was no jackal tho

[scarlet adder]

yeah

[tropic summit]

eh fk it you gonna face tank it i guess

[last vigil]

yeh raw wtf

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

who need strat, just hit with bigger number

enemy wearing no protection

[last vigil]

so no biscuit and trina i just raw them

[tropic summit]

jackal quantum
privT tempering
trina/centi vigor
swha tempering
vestiTU tempering

moran tempering
anisTT quantum
cindy any
helmT tempering/any
anchorIM vigor

[scarlet adder]

i didn't try to stun this team :[ was beating it with stanis centi bisc cindy thelm

[river dune]

All the ones I have

[tropic summit]

where's the highest line? i don't see scarlet

only need top 2 lines

de-select all units and order by strength

[tropic summit]

k nvm found it

[river dune]

I wonder if attack is more important than power for PvP

Less powerful units sometimes have more attack

[tropic summit]

run this team in shooting range

scarlet anisTT RH SBS jackal

1. enter battle (shooting range)
2. pause
3. click on scarlet
4. check buff "jumping jackal" is present

[river dune]

Ok

[tropic summit]

you just need CP, scarlet 2RL counter is correct but you need to get out of deficit
to get out of deficit you stack CP

[onyx scaffold]

i think the popular one is helm emi rh centi/rumani

i guess laplace is needed, just in case

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit ok few things:

• my priv not build
• his noah is killable in faster teams beofre the burst so here even more with swha and vesti i think(i will try vesti swha moran blanc jackal i think)
• i am beating nayu with team that from what you used i can still use and that is centi stanis biscuit cindy thelm
  but thank you

[tropic summit]

help vestiTU with drakeT and laplaceT at least

p1 flex, p2 drakeT (will be taunted to shoot noah), vestiTU will p1 p2 p3, laplaceT will p2

the other team you know what to do as you already beat it, you don't need biscuit in case you wanna save it

beware that even if you kill noah they will burst with trina, so don't be squishy

highly recommend you build privaty so you avoid risks of running glass cannons against glass cannon over and over

[scarlet adder]

that's why i wanted blanc indom with vesti at p1

[tropic summit]

oke that can do

ensure she has x2 ammo

[river dune]

Yeah looks like it

[scarlet adder]

wouldn't priv die to vesti here?

[tropic summit]

ah perfect this should fix CP issues then, assemble the team in this order then let's confirm CP:

scarlet SBS RH anisTT jackal

[tropic summit]

they've very little splash, privT on SR15 and tempering cannot be killed in p2 against that

[river dune]

Ok ty

[scarlet adder]

ahh cause no laplace/emilia or other attacker RL just vesti then attackers should survive vesti as long as not wind i guess?

[tropic summit]

vestiTU alone generally cannot kill p2 and p3 if they're not wind code, if there's an emilia/laplaceT/SWHA then it COULD kill p2 (or obviously absolute)

[scarlet adder]

priv 10/10/10 skills and 4 OLs but i would not care for rolls i guess?

[tropic summit]

just avoid getting her ammo, get her atk% and ele%

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[tropic summit]

is jackal SR15 and 4OL?

[river dune]

Should be lemme check

[scarlet adder]

lets say he would switch trina for swha in that team... could i beat that even?

[tropic summit]

with privT and the combo i gave you, you stop them at B1, then you wipe them all during FB
without privT and assuming you run anti noah team, you've to ensure you lethal vestiTU else facetank vestiTU nuke, which is non lethal on non wind code and you can survive it with moran/noise and anchorIM/bay, but it will be risky

ensure if you run non privT team that your team has lethal on vestiTU aswell and not just noah

e.g.:

this one hurts pretty bad p1 p2 p3, will ensure noah is dead and will give you extra HP to survive eventual enemy vestiTU living to trina B2, should out trade right after as you start shooting on FB with SWHA aswell

[scarlet adder]

there would be no trina

he would switch her for swha

[tropic summit]

won't be a problem then, cuz they're B2-less

[scarlet adder]

yeahh

[tropic summit]

if you run the team above ensure p3 isn't linked, so you reduce enemy vestiTU dmg to 66% on link

[scarlet adder]

i also have no drake omg 😄 i probably have stuff to invest into both of those but ahhh i love having bunch of resources xD

[tropic summit]

start by getting privT treasure imo, you need her on pve anyway

[scarlet adder]

i just want to push this season to the end and never do what i do right now again xD

[tropic summit]

drakeT is... kinda falling off... except SG teams

[river dune]

She wasn't but now she is

[tropic summit]

who else is not on SR15 in there?

[river dune]

At least maxed the Sr doll

I mean among these 5 none but among all of em might be a lot

[tropic summit]

nono among those 5

if you replace SBS with alice do you get above 2055k+?

[river dune]

Perhaps lemme check

[tropic summit]

ok now just gotta recheck buff on scarlet, run it again in shooting range

[river dune]

Alright

[river dune]

Yes she does

Hopefully it's enough then

[tropic summit]

oh awesome i guess you're set, let's sort out cubes lastly

[river dune]

Ok

[tropic summit]

scarlet tempering
alice any
rh any
anisTT quantum
jackal quantum

after equipping cubes ensure you're still above 2055kCP then run the team, should wipe on burst

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit Still holding those defense teams in the back pocket I dunno what the C4 is doing, he hits me like once a day, takes my spot, then I take it back and he just chills logged in and doesn't do anything or hits again an hour or so before reset and logs off

[tropic summit]

surprisingly normie behavior, he's not bothering with it just playing casually

[versed mesa]

Apart from that whiffed snipe attempt like a week ago, it's not like he really cares about going for a top 3 spot at all. He doesn't even change his defense almost at all.

I'm logged out for like most of the day so he could easily just hit me at those times and rack up points before I log in

[river dune]

Ok then I need little to change then

[versed mesa]

Unless he only hits closer to reset because he is saving the tickets for defending, since there is a few players with higher cp below him, but so far I haven't seen them even once try to take a higher spot either

[tropic summit]

as long as you stay above 2055kCP, only mandatory cube is tempering on scarlet and quantum on jackal and anisTT

[river dune]

Jackal has quantum and what Red Hood or Alice has doesn't matter right? just need to change Anis and Scarlet

[versed mesa]

I was gonna say I use resilience on Scarlet and still win Until I remembered I switched to tempering a few weeks back

[tropic summit]

scarlet tempering, anisTT and jackal quantum, RH and alice any high lvl cube (resil/bastion)

[versed mesa]

Getting another level on tempering after UR points come in

[river dune]

Yeah just giving them enough quantum doesn't work

[tropic summit]

you mean you drop in CP?

[river dune]

CP is high enough

[tropic summit]

then what do you mean it's not enough

[river dune]

As in I tried another attempt and lost

[tropic summit]

do they reach noise B1?

before you're on B3

[river dune]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

then you need trina but you can't slot her because you're CP gapped

[river dune]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

time to either avoid fighting him or fix your CP on trina

then you can run the proper counter

scar trina rh anisTT jackal

[river dune]

Maybe tomorrow I am tired today , haven't even finished dailies

[tropic summit]

ye no problemo, or wait until you reach the next CP increase sync milestone (21-41-61-81 etc)

[versed mesa]

Dunno if the C4 can still beat me after I get 741. He is 722, but atleast based on his defense teams his cp is shockingly low for his synchro. Or he might just be full f2p and his focus is on PvE, so hasn't invested as much as me into pvp units.

[eager brook]

Outside is sync level and dolls, is there a priority order to upgrade your gear to maximize CP? Like upgrading the head piece to level 5 then hands and so on, as fodder is a bottleneck? Or are there break points like upgrading to lvl 3 first

[versed mesa]

The levels after initial overload increase cp very little. Unless you want to squeeze every point possible, it is not worth it to go full +5

[eager brook]

It's for pvp (CA) so min maxing would be required

[versed mesa]

But if you want the extra attack, just get extra levels on the pieces that have the most atk for attackers, and hp/defense for supports

[oak hatch]

Cp doesn’t give u an advantage for CA

[versed mesa]

Yeah even for CA it's not a make or break it

[oak hatch]

Just upgrade the gear that gives u most attack first

[placid bloom]

gotta increase your win rate by 0.5%

over 1000 seasons of CA it will matter

[versed mesa]

I have the most cp in almost every CA bracket I get into. I've gotten top-64 only twice

[eager brook]

Is lvling skills past 7 more impactful in CA excluding must-have lvl 10 then?

[versed mesa]

It is so much more on your team synergy

And order rng

[minor egret]

@hidden mortar This guy I swear. He lost 3 times in def, finally succeeded and had his moment for like 20min. You're c6 btw in case you didn't see

[arctic jewel]

It really just depends on what Nikke we're talking about

[placid bloom]

each small diff don't matter but the more small diff you have the more likely it can all add up to be big diff

[oak hatch]

If they’re not must have then it’s not that impactful, which nikke is it u want to take past 7?

[placid bloom]

if you have spare resource to upgrade there is no reason not to

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-war-gif-25775125

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/one-day-i-might-learn-something-it-is-not-this-day-lord-of-the-rings-gif-14797077

[eager brook]

Everything that's meta but with breakpoints at say 7/7/7.
In the end everything will be 10/10/10 anyways but it'll take some time.
I know for sure in global CA brackets, you can still CP gap some opponents with core 7 and dolls and OL gear lines

[versed mesa]

There is no cp penalty in CA

[oak hatch]

Ye then it’s prob not that impactful. U also cannot cp gap even with all max cores across all ur nikkes. Only thing u will have is better stats than their nikke which gives u a slight advantage. Only in spa and rookie u can gap them and one to a few shot their nikke

[eager brook]

Ok got it

[hidden mortar]

ye I just saw lol. He levelled up to 600

lets see if i still win

yup, won lol. 70 synchro diff ez

[hidden fog]

is this team shit for defense

[glad meteor]

Biscuit burst is weak

[hidden fog]

i dont have noah

im starting to get triggered really hard, because im losing to 460 synch's

[restive heart]

no bay?

[hidden fog]

every single time im losing to this

or moron defense teams

[restive heart]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-osu-greece-greek-cat-osu-cat-greek-gif-2694212203346871017

[versed mesa]

As long as you aren't in deficit, or have teams that can endure a small one, synchro means very little.

[hidden mortar]

I am in deficit

[hidden fog]

i have her but idk if i wanna build her

[hidden mortar]

his teams are just easy to counter

[hidden fog]

im handicapped

because i dont have noah

[restive heart]

i mean it like good with moran

moran-bay-biscuit-helm-swha

[glad meteor]

Stat diffed. Lose to moran deadge

[restive heart]

biscuit burst is so bad

[hidden fog]

i have no idea how pvp works majority of the time in this game, i dont care for it, but i dropped from challenger 4 to diamond 13

ever since anis came out

[versed mesa]

Well you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink Or give a granny a Ferrari, and then she only drives the speed limit.

[hidden fog]

i just stack the fastest burst geners and thats it, or try doing blanc indomitability

[minor egret]

I saw he woke up. Now watch him not level to 601 for weeks, it won't be the first time lol

[compact eagle]

I think that generally works

[hidden fog]

thats why i mentioned it

[hidden mortar]

so apparently this next ca is the last one, I'm hearing @minor egret . If thats true then its lowkey hilarious that this dude spent like 8 hours yesterday playing through the story (he went from 44 normal / 36 hard to 46 normal + 40 hard) power levelled to 600 and effectively get nothing out of it

[hidden fog]

after 1.5 years i still dont have noah, because of course all of the pilgrim molds have to fail

[compact eagle]

Now you just need to layer in as many offensive buffers as you can so you have teeth when you burst

[placid bloom]

I built Nero because I don't have Noah

[minor egret]

What do you mean the last one? It's getting out of beta?

[hidden mortar]

thats what I'm being told

[hidden fog]

like i was fumbling with teams, but i just dont know what else to put

[hidden mortar]

s30 is last beta season, then we have a long break from CA and it comes back in the later half of the year with new rules

[hidden fog]

scarlet is kinda hard counter by label nowadays

[humble tiger]

I don't think this is winnable gng.

[tropic summit]

very abusable team, it's without anti nuke

noah anisTT cindy biscuit helmT

[placid bloom]

they are changing CA according to dev note, increasing the number of participation slot

[hidden fog]

i already said i dont have noah

[minor egret]

Always found it was the stupidest decision to only open the CA gates for 4 players

[hidden fog]

what else do i put there

[tropic summit]

sacc an attacker

nayuta anisTT cindy helmT swha

[placid bloom]

but just because participation slot for groups increase doesn't mean they won't cut straight to top 64 again

[versed mesa]

But isn't there still a few months before CA changes come in?

[placid bloom]

so making it out of groups is still not that easy if you are not invested

[cedar sorrel]

What did you say?

[hidden fog]

look at the 3 defense setups i posted

i want to make changes

[glad meteor]

Surely anis folkwang is the way

[tropic summit]

post your box or blabla link set to public

either way you're not gonna defend much without a noah

[hidden fog]

yeah thats what i thought

[tropic summit]

nowdays people have too many tools to trivialize all sort of defs

[hidden fog]

i guess im just gonna suffer

[tropic summit]

noah is one of the few things that can attempt getting you a few wins on def

[cedar sorrel]

You can make ur defence hold up against dia's in my experience

[minor egret]

They said it's for the second half of the year but they're snail devs so who knows

[cedar sorrel]

In ch u wont hold and u just need to find people who are happy with their position so u can chill

[hidden fog]

i've been trying everything

and nothing works, the same way with trying to win against anyone

[versed mesa]

Yeah, that's what I read and went to double check. The current CA system is still in place until further notice. The next one being the last didn't sound right

[tropic summit]

you're ded the moment they reach B2, cuz their anisTT starts nuking ur team while you stun them and they're behind shields

[tropic summit]

i think you can win attack, just can't hold def

try posting the top opponent you can hit

[humble tiger]

Should I use HelmT instead?

[tropic summit]

no you're dead regardless against that, you can't out trade

[cedar sorrel]

Im running pure mayhem def rn which is just discombobulating everyone cuz my prev def was a bit too standard

[tropic summit]

you need to vestiTU indom that team

[cedar sorrel]

It hasnt been broken by any dia player yet

[humble tiger]

Dang...
Guess I'll leave it alone.

[tropic summit]

that's probably wise

getting blanc would help a lot

[humble tiger]

Oh of course she will.

[tropic summit]

this is your top opponent in SP?

[hidden fog]

i can win against his maiden setup, i tried doing snow white blanc setup on noah

and she couldnt get blanc's indomitability

he's on 8th spot

[tropic summit]

show your box next (blabla link set to public is sufficient)

[minor egret]

Maybe Pleb is drunk where did he heard that?

[tidal lichen]

snow blanc
noah bisc
vesti with dmg dealers

[shell hazel]

I got this thing working sort of now 🙂

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

Thats a treasured centi on t3 btw so could potentially abuse

[tropic summit]

there's no noah so he gonna have to do a no feed team against T2 (they're 3RL)
T1 and T3 are spot on

@hidden fog if you show your box you can beat those

[glad meteor]

Moran helm bay t2

[hidden fog]

i never used app before, where do i set to public

[tidal lichen]

could also do vesti t2
anis cindy bisc t3, linked siren should make the whole link perish

[tropic summit]

it's indom scarlet on 3RL, just need to nuke link on 2RL

[tropic summit]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/

then click on top icon "privacy" and set to public

[hidden fog]

k, wheres the link to copy it now

[tropic summit]

do you've these units

(you're on the left)

[hidden fog]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTMzMzgyMjc3MzUxNDM3OTQzMTk%3D

[tropic summit]

looks like you got all of those

[hidden fog]

does it work

[tropic summit]

ye it does

assemble the teams and show CP then we can confirm

[tropic summit]

you're in range, looks good

[hidden fog]

isnt anchor omega cope?

[tropic summit]

you only need a no feeding B2 and buffer ideally

she fits perfectly

[hidden fog]

what about centi though?

[tropic summit]

won't buff you, also she's phase 2+ which helps the enemy

[hidden fog]

also i dont understand blanc's indomitability majority of the time

[tropic summit]

you won't rly need indomitability on T1, she's just directly countering moran

as she removes part of her DR

[hidden fog]

sometimes they put her on p4 or whatever and it always seems to afffect their dps, when i put it it never wants to buff said dps

[tropic summit]

i'm thinking if we could run a T3 aswell but it would make other 2 teams riskier

i'd say roll with these

[hidden fog]

also i do record my arena attempts

[tropic summit]

ye record this matchup in particular, i need to see their invest on T1 if it goes wrong

[hidden fog]

i need to close browser then

[tropic summit]

record then submit

[hidden fog]

the game hyper malds and lags if i have browser on

[tropic summit]

that's fine catch you in a few

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit Do you think this team would still work as one of my sp defense teams? I was thinking of switching RH out in favor of AnisTT. Would give a boost to speed

[tropic summit]

team is fine, give quantum to trina and centi

you can keep anisTT in either of the other 2 teams

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1--k01KRVM7M6RHPJXWH610ZTTFBYT

ok who's next, pick your top opponent

[hidden fog]

let me be crystal clear, i have no idea what happens here

p1 gets targetted and then p5 loses 80% hp in an instant

i dont have any attempts

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-unclephuc-mha-my-hero-academia-all-might-gif-4893354491294723038

[tropic summit]

T1 logic:

• both teams are around 2RL
• you've only 1 attacker, p5, helmT on B3 casts nuke on p5 as she's highest atk%
• you've p5 lowest HP, blanc indoms SWHA
• you're on high DPS with anisTT cindy and SWHA

[tropic summit]

buy an attempt, 100 gems, let's go

just kidding, don't if you don't feel like

[hidden fog]

i mean i could but thats wasting gems

[tropic summit]

nah don't it's fine

[hidden fog]

suggest me a defense team

[tropic summit]

now let's fix ur defense

[shell hazel]

🐳

[hidden fog]

because its dooky

im not gonna sugarcoat things i hate pvp in this game it triggers me

[tropic summit]

that's a pretty darn invested ada

gonna roll a vestiTU indom for sure

do me a favour meanwhile @hidden fog

[versed mesa]

Rail one more quickie before I annoy you too much Is there any major difference between Noah and Moran, when with biscuit, if Noah is in P1 and Moran in P2 or vice versa?

[hidden fog]

i dont wanna be braggy but majority of the time im the lowest clearer on global

[tropic summit]

run jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc ada in shooting range
enter battle, pause, click on ada and vestiTU, give me both units HP @hidden fog (equip ada with vigor beforehand)

[shell hazel]

your weekly Rail quota is 94% used

[hidden fog]

what element though

or does it not matter

[shell hazel]

oh cool, where you up to in hard mode?

[hidden fog]

black snek

you can see my youtube channel because i have autism to upload every stage

[tropic summit]

won't matter, just need the HPs

[hidden fog]

only ada vigor?

and the rest resilience 15

or no cube

[tropic summit]

so here's the thing:

• moran noah biscuit swha helmT, assuming 2RL and team wide 11%CS, this team is siren resistant but weak to indom vestiTU
• moran helmt swha noah biscuit, assuming 2RL and team wide 11CS%, this team is siren resistant and mitigates indom, but weak to rosanna and early pressure

if you've the above, CS% makes it meaningless to have noah p1 or moran p1

now if you DON'T have the CS%

• noah p1 is siren weak
• noah p2-p3-p4-p5 can be siren weak if siren is p1 or p2

[tropic summit]

i just need the HP, run the team with ada on vigor and then give me the HP

the rest can wait once we know if you can slot her for indom

[hidden fog]

the rest have resilience 15 and ada vigor level 5

[tropic summit]

so ada stays lowest HP, the core difference with vestiTU unfortunately fks it up

well we can't run vestiTU on ada buff, will get a different team

[hidden fog]

i could upgrade her gear no problem

[candid cradle]

Mhh I'm trying to copy the teams in the archetypes list but there's a little problem 🥲 when I have to choose the 3rd archetypes team I can't find one that has unique units. "Unique" I mean a unit that is not used in the first 2 teams
How can I replace non-unique units?

[hidden fog]

idk i just dont know

my ada has lvl 0 overload boots

[tropic summit]

nah it's fine

[hidden fog]

i was only able to get 1 copy of ada

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc drakeT
• nayuta anisTT privT helmT lib
• moran swha ada anchorIM laplaceT

Notes

• wishlist noah, consider building bayT until noah is found

[hidden fog]

i mean i have 160 items for bay

[glad meteor]

Flex, i better see your indi clear
@tropic summit @shell hazel

[hidden fog]

let me do this setup then and i show cp

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/who-general-mark-r-naird-steve-carell-space-force-confused-gif-17484620

[versed mesa]

Kara cleared Indivilia before me

[tropic summit]

wow, that's a large e-peen

[hidden fog]

any specific cube for them or resilience for most of them

also tprivaty?

[tropic summit]

jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
xmaiden quantum
blanc vigor
drakeT vigor

nayuta any
anisTT quantum
privT tempering
helmT tempering
lib any

moran tempering
swha tempering
ada any
anchorIM vigor
lappy quantum

[tropic summit]

yeah treasure privaty

[hidden fog]

yeah i know but isnt it cope?

same with anchor?

[tropic summit]

who told you she's cope?

you've a very confused view on pvp units

[hidden fog]

i mean nobody, but doesnt it look like it or something?

i've read a little bit

[tropic summit]

anchorIM is the next card if you don't have bayT or noah

[glad meteor]

[hidden fog]

i think this is like more advanced strats or sth

[tropic summit]

privT is 1hitko nuker with added bonus she stuns

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-blush-blush-anime-marin-marin-kitagawa-gif-6481444601674119735

[tropic summit]

defense is all about making teams that catch your opponent offguard or plays on knowledge

if your opponent is pvp skilled, no defense will win, because attacker should always win

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/knowledge-tai-lopez-lamborghini-gif-19251888

[tropic summit]

it's like you playing rock paper scissor, and you know what the opponent is playing

so you match rock with your paper and scissor with your rock

if the opponent isn't able to do that, either because lacking the units or being just not as skilled, you'll win defense

[versed mesa]

It's simple really. (it isn't that simple )

Ty SU

[hidden fog]

im out of tempering slots

i have the cube at lvl 5

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-emoji-shoot-gun-shoot-gif-10049962077030692855

Gun!

[ancient sun]

Lol

[hidden fog]

changed the cubes, i assume the loss of cp wont matter that much, i didnt have enough tempering slots though

[ancient sun]

So like with Rosanna dispel, after Neon’s death her Healthy Body resets 💀

[hidden fog]

i mean it kinda makes it more understandable i guess, sooo i'd say thanks

[wraith token]

anybody have a suggestion to attack this defense

[quaint granite]

How Neon's body is replaced, by a Missilis Unit

[cedar sorrel]

I think Id just nayuta rh aniss 2rl nuke this

[ancient sun]

[cedar sorrel]

Im not sure if itd work but similarish comps have just died to that in my exp

[compact eagle]

• Could try killing Neon fast with like, LaplaceT
• hope Vesti explosions kill Blanc
• Use slightly slower Blanc team and win the indom war
• just burst faster and wipe Neon + Helm for a free win

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit looking at this one i feel like siren would stun it but could be wrong :I

have to see some siren stun video and compare

but i think she takes a bit over 3 seconds

aa neveremind

now that i compared it feels like it would be too slow

[tropic summit]

would be nice slotting ada in T1 but won't be doable for now, she has lower HP than vestiTU and would steal indom priority, keep those and see how they do

[scarlet adder]

at nikke top it says 3.26 seconds the stun happens but in videos it look much slower, weird

[hidden fog]

i mean i wouldnt have known

[tropic summit]

noah rumani biscuit lib helmT

[hidden fog]

i got dupes for vesti and i was happy, and i instantly used them, because she's good

[tropic summit]

yeah it's actually common don't worry

the real deal breaker here is that she's 40%+ atk, so we gotta get her a flex unit that steals link from her

[hidden fog]

i was considering dupes for ada, but idk if i would cut it out with resources

[tropic summit]

and that'd be only another attacker on 41%+ atk OL

[hidden fog]

it was said it was fine for lb0 ada

and dupes were like a nice addition

im not like omega whel

[tropic summit]

it's swha + jackal + helmt, that thing is likely B2'ing before siren

don't even bother, you gonna need to facetank it

[scarlet adder]

aa wait the team i have shown you had swha in stanis team i think

[hidden fog]

that flex is drake then yes?

[tropic summit]

first of all you need to understand how indom works, so you know what i mean:

condition 1: your indom prefered unit needs to be linked AND lowest HP between 2nd linked unit and jackal herself
condition 2: to be linked, you need to be 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the comp

in your case, vestiTU and ada are highest 2 atk% in the comp, so they're linked, but ada is lowest HP in link, meaning you will indom ada and thus can't run vestiTU as main B3

what you COULD do to fix that: ada can be ran offburst and unlinked in p3, this can get you p2 and p5 linked over ada, and p5 can be higher HP than vestiTU
example (assumption):

• jackal vestiTU ada blanc laplaceT (laplaceT and vestiTU assumed linked due to highest atk%, laplaceT higher HP than vestiTU either via natural or vigor)
• in the case above, vestiTU is main B3 and indommed, on ada offburst buff: this cannot be sustained against, strong team

[hidden fog]

i dont understand the whole "jackal" link thing its mentioned alot of times, and even on this arena tools and i dont understand it

[tropic summit]

here's an example @hidden fog

SBS and helmT are the 2 highest atk% units and thus linked with jackal
linked units: share damage with each others
if combined with blanc: blanc will pick lowest HP among the linked units, if your linked unit prefered B3 starts lower HP, she will remain lower HP in the link

[placid bloom]

Jackal's passive shares damage taken between herself and the 2 units with the highest Atk, determined at the start of battle. Since every unit takes shared damage equally, it lets you control who has the lowest HP very reliably.

without it you are kind of gambling on other variables like crits, ele advantage, and whatnot influencing who has the lowest HP when Blanc casts B2

targeting order is fixed in PvP so you have full control over everything

[hidden fog]

okay so both lose same amount of health, the one with less max hp will get blanc's buff

[tropic summit]

yeah pretty much

in your case as you saw earlier we can't kick ada although on higher HP than vestiTU

so you're limited to run her as main B3, which is far inferior to a vestiTU B3

the next option would be to get yourself an attacker with higher atk% than ada and use ada offburst

[placid bloom]

there's some niche scenarios where you have some leeway like in the case of Noise being linked since she boosts her own HP with her own passive, and things like that

[tropic summit]

but your ada is rly high on atk% OL, so your attacker gonna need to be ultra invested to match that condition

[placid bloom]

but if you're doing stuff like that you probably already know what you're doing since it's not as easy to set up support/defender links

[hidden fog]

i specifically reroll my units to do low clears

[tropic summit]

yeah hence we aint running ada with your indom unfortunately

can keep her for swha noah teams although

(once you get noah anyway)

[hidden fog]

i've been waiting for over 1.5 years

[tropic summit]

for now you'll use anchorIM to buy time and ada to give lifesteal

[placid bloom]

join me, build Nero

[hidden fog]

and having her on wishlist all the time

[placid bloom]

already done with waiting

no Noah, she can eat shit

[tropic summit]

he could build bay too in case

[hidden fog]

most of my pilgrim molds failed

[tropic summit]

moran bay biscuit is decent archetype

[hidden fog]

gave me grave, dorothy, rapi dupe

[tropic summit]

and he can use it for attack teams

[hidden fog]

and like useless pilgrims and thats about it

[placid bloom]

my Bay def can't hold but Nero can

[hidden fog]

most of my experience with the pilgrim mold was a blue

[hidden fog]

i wanted noah for a long time, and i just cant get her

the pilgrim molds themselves feel scammaz

if its 50% then its the worst 50% i've seen

[placid bloom]

tbh I just pretend the unit I don't have don't exist

[cedar sorrel]

Noah rerun

[placid bloom]

no point worrying about it

I just send my Nero into enemy Noah and say gl hitting 100% dmg reduc without Blanc

[hidden fog]

i was wondering if helm can heal throught noah 5 second immunity

[placid bloom]

no

[hidden fog]

thats why i made the whole moran/biscuit/helm thing

[placid bloom]

cannot lifesteal if you can't do damage

[hidden fog]

someone said you could

[placid bloom]

no

[hidden fog]

therefore i did it

[placid bloom]

you need other source of heal

Quiry can but who building her

also most likely you take more damage than you can heal

you can survive some Noah teams with Moran Bay Biscuit but not all

[versed mesa]

The crazy b actually did it. He sniped me succesfully

[placid bloom]

[cedar sorrel]

Vs indom you will lifesteal cuz indom doesnt stop you from being damaged it just makes u not drop below 1 hp

If ur actively unable to take dmg lifesteal wont work

[hidden fog]

okay so i will now know that helm doesnt heal against noah

i was mislead by someone

[placid bloom]

you heal into Moran

[hidden fog]

i meant noah

[placid bloom]

[hidden fog]

im tired

is there any like particular counters for blanc / noah that i could like know?

[agile grove]

Can I get a list of modern SP comps (atk/def) and explanations on why they’re good and what they can counter?

[placid bloom]

it will vary depending on set up

[hidden fog]

someone once said that child rei apparently counters something

[placid bloom]

Blanc being wind can lose to a lot of things if not protected

[hidden fog]

like 5 shotguns?

[placid bloom]

also in general Blanc loses mirror match if you burst later than theirs

[hidden fog]

someone once said, to bring shotguns to deal massive damage, if bursting is not a plan

[placid bloom]

cuz their indom runs out first

SG can work if they don't build their team around it but that's kinda rare

you can definitely get away with it sometimes though

or SG Ros

[hidden fog]

yeah i kinda barely know how rosanna works tbh

[placid bloom]

Noah Biscuit is generally a more stable defense

but it also means you can just dodge it and hit the other 2 teams if you really don't want to deal with it

because they commited 2 annoying chars

if they added Moran to it then that's 3 annoying chars you don't need to see on other teams

it's beatable but usually not worth the resource

[hidden fog]

yeah i consider the resource as the main factor why i dont hard focus pvp units

[arctic jewel]

There are ways to deal with Noah/Biscuit, but for someone who is in low synchro levels, it's a very good archetype

[placid bloom]

Noah by herself is fairly easy to beat though

it almost always loses to Blanc because your 1 carry outlives their invin

[arctic jewel]

Yeah, it's the combo of Noah, Moran and Biscuit that's super annoying for newer players

[hidden fog]

i kinda always struggle to find a counter blanc/noah

[placid bloom]

and then there's other shit you can do like stun if they didn't build around it properly

if Noah is their only B2, they are cooked

[arctic jewel]

Siren

[hidden fog]

i mean sometimes siren came in clutch, but that was rare

nowadays i dont find a situation where i can stun like b1 or b2 so they cant burst

[placid bloom]

well most of the people that are in challenger have some idea what they're doing

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit 😭

[placid bloom]

so they won't build teams that you can punish as easily unless you know PvP yourself

[arctic jewel]

Soda is also an option

Anyway

[placid bloom]

I prefer Soda but only with Scar, other carry too slow

they can unstun before you hit

[hidden fog]

i mean i was keeping challenger 4 for like over a year, and then ever since like label it was slowly getting harder

[tropic summit]

1. fast nuke showcase (deals with slower teams)

2. indom showcase (deals with stalls)

3. stall team with lifesteal (deals with stallable indoms)

4. sacc team (can outspeed on situational matchups)

5. siren to stun noah if stunnable position/condition

6. rapunzel scarlet trina to punish high damage pre burst

7. just as it sounds, you nuke before enemy does anything

8. learn about indom and the conditions to run it

9. abuses invulnerable unit, anti nuke and lifesteal

10. this is an advanced concept, just know that rosanna can give you burst gen if a unit or more are killed to let you burst faster

11. this is one of the key method to punish noahs that are not 11%CS team wide or are not running noise taunt priority teams

12. advanced comp based on estimating enemy damage on p1, just know that rapunzel can do this

[arctic jewel]

I currently use Rapu in CA, mostly because higher CP

[tropic summit]

point 5 and 6 @agile grove

[placid bloom]

well Rapu not really good if it's not blind match

unless they guy don't realize she can stun

[arctic jewel]

It's CA, I'm relying on luck anyway xD

[agile grove]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-write-writer-pen-pencil-gif-12592027081751535721

[tropic summit]

as for generic defense teams, pick any of these:
#pvp-arena message

prefer nayuta, anisTT, vestiTU, swha and moran teams

[agile grove]

Thank you railtracer, im an unc now and have no idea what im doing

[arctic jewel]

@placid bloom But I do have Soda somewhat built, just that other Nikkes have higher priority

[versed mesa]

It seems like my opponents snipe might have went over so I attacked him and he took it back almost right away. Either bluffing or he is prepped for a gem war, on the last 2 days of the season

[arctic jewel]

My rival is so unbelievably annoying

He doesn't even know how to deal with Noah

[agile grove]

Jesus, i have a lot of studying to do

[arctic jewel]

Just relying on tier lists

[versed mesa]

It is so tempting to switch to the new cook Rail gave me, but then he would just have time to figure stuff out for the next season. Down to just 1 ticket. I am about to hit 741, but dunno if the cp from that will be enough since he already has my current defense on lockdown it seems. Was also shuffling order right to the last minute and he still was succesful

[arctic jewel]

Which is?

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit new teams

Help pls :(

[tropic summit]

they look the same

T1 indom it
T3 anisTT nayuta biscuit it

[warm monolith]

Oh mb

[warm monolith]

The earlier teams?

[tropic summit]

T1
swha blanc rh centi jackal
T3
anisTT nayuta biscuit neonOS helmT

[swift mango]

Came back to collecting too late, 25th secret cards already double the price since half a year ago... But at least I got my quarter century Exodia set that won't devalued anytime soon if ever for 40$.

[versed mesa]

So vexing. I already have 3k gems on lockdown but damn I'm so peeved for him doing a succesful snipe Now I get to know how it feels

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-200--k01KRVS6WQ5KTDY9SQSMPYQ5YX9

[warm monolith]

Kay, im running it, wish me luck

[tropic summit]

record

i wanna see that T3

[warm monolith]

Record doesnt work...

Sometimes it doesnt idk why

[swift mango]

Only 2/3 a skin in Nikke.

[warm monolith]

Shh....i forgot the cubes...

[tropic summit]

good ol misindom RH

[warm monolith]

Its not that swha dies

[tropic summit]

temperino

[warm monolith]

Also t3 worked

[tropic summit]

did neonOS live past scarlet nukeroni?

if she proccs at 1RL she probably does

[warm monolith]

Wait... Swha had tempering and rh vigor

[tropic summit]

you take too much ele dmg then

blanc swha rh biscuit jackal

[warm monolith]

Ye

[tropic summit]

or

so you keep biscuit

[placid bloom]

$40 sound expensive, weren't these tin promo I feel like these were like $5 each

[tropic summit]

jackal blanc swha ada helmT

[placid bloom]

unless SEA area just more expensive

[versed mesa]

Should I just sit in C4 for a bit. Let the guy have his spotlight

[placid bloom]

well it depends whether anyone else can hit you

[warm monolith]

Helmt on t3

[placid bloom]

but if it won't affect standings I usually don't bother swinging on last day or two except right before season end

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith for the other team since you take helmT turn it into

anisTT blanc biscuit laplaceT lib

[warm monolith]

Oh this team for t3?

[warm monolith]

Oke

[tropic summit]

you can afford losing the 2 B3s

[versed mesa]

That is the only thing I am worrying about, but I'm 1million average cp above him and no one has hit him so.

[warm monolith]

Blanc on t1?

[tropic summit]

ye it's nayuta my bad

give anisTT and lappy quantum

[warm monolith]

No problemo, one sec ill make the teams

[versed mesa]

I've gotten to keep C1 for so long that I feel rooted to it

[swift mango]

Check TCGplayers, their market price are 7$ each now. With the body 20$.

[warm monolith]

Why not b3 for libe?

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter, you can

[warm monolith]

For burst gen?

[warm monolith]

Oke

[quaint granite]

Lib burst aint bad

[placid bloom]

tbh I didn't check the price since last year when the tin came out, maybe that's why I think the price is so low

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit t3 won but in t1 swha died again

[swift mango]

That's why I said the price doubled comparing to 6 months ago.

[tropic summit]

dafuq

are you in deficit?

jackal blanc swha ada helmt has iron code in p1 against water and elec codes

[quaint granite]

Fighting high cp?

[viscid urchin]

Alright, time to start climbing back up. How do I approach this guy and kill the 2/3 requirement?

[warm monolith]

Ohs i am

Sorry man lol

[tropic summit]

you're not new to this...

no problemo, pick someone else next time

[tropic summit]

good ol cindy in p1

[warm monolith]

True but i thought i really wasnt lol

[viscid urchin]

Any ideas boss? Last time I could only take down team 3 with my kinda dumb ATK teams

[tropic summit]

hmmm well all 3 teams are kinda abusable at least

[quaint granite]

Team 2 Vesti indom nuke?

[tropic summit]

give me your box/blabla link again

[swift mango]

Staples cards like Accesscode price reduced over time but cards with collectible value of Yugi, GX and 5ds era just go up.

[versed mesa]

Consolation price from SU for getting sniped Max core number 37 from purple molds

[warm monolith]

Does crit rate matter in libe?

[placid bloom]

well it's all modern going down

[viscid urchin]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTIxMDYzMDg5NTk3MjAxOTQzNzU%3D
I hope this is it.

[tropic summit]

ye it works

[placid bloom]

vintage went up again after Logan Paul made his video now all the crypto people buying Yugioh too

[swift mango]

It's not collectors fault that yugioh Anime flopped after 5D.

[warm monolith]

Keep it?

[tropic summit]

you treasured privT ye @viscid urchin ?

[viscid urchin]

Yes. She's just not built yet because I was told it was OK to keep her on the backburner for now

[shell hazel]

you' be daft not to?

it's black line crit rate and a small loss of atk

you can always fix the atk % later if needed

[placid bloom]

[warm monolith]

Maybe lock crit rate and elem and reroll?

[tropic summit]

that's fine we'll use something else then

[shell hazel]

well it's 3 rocks per go for a small improvement

I'd take the black line crit and OK atk and run away for now

[tropic summit]

@viscid urchin run these 2, you're on the left, enemy on the right

post the matchup first so we can confirm CP

[shell hazel]

black lines don't show up every day

[warm monolith]

Im starting to actually spent too much gem on her🥲 All because ive got her gacha skin and want to see the worth of the money ive spent

[viscid urchin]

Alright I'll post in a little bit. Walking doggy for a bit.

[hollow lagoon]

🧅

[tropic summit]

oke enjoy

[swift mango]

Like I don't remember liking a single boss card after 5ds. The only notable cards are all Waifu or husbandos.

5D basically hit the roof of Yu-Gi-Oh boss design. Okay there are Crystal Wing dragon and friends but it basically borrows the Stardust dragon theme.

[swift mango]

Fun fact: The rarest Yu-Gi-Oh cards released recently went for 20000+$ each now. So I'm just collecting cheap cards in comparison.

[tropic summit]

expensive hobby that's for sure

[versed mesa]

Okay, so it seems like the snipers win went over by about 7-8 seconds past reset, but after I took it back with one of my new tickets, he also took it back again. So no idea if he is bluffing and only had 1 fresh ticket after snipe, or if he still had both and if I hit him a second time, he just uses his other one and I will be in C4 for the rest of the day . I'm playing damn mind games with myself

[tropic summit]

cards games are nice and all until you realize how business oriented they actually are

[placid bloom]

Wym, gacha game copy TCG

[tropic summit]

sit C4 until near season reset, so you can snipe back the position, you've plenty of points to secure ch1-ch3 range reward

[placid bloom]

Just fancier

[swift mango]

And you own nothing

[tropic summit]

what matters is that you start C1 as season starts

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit this is what it is at present:

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, run them

[swift mango]

You basically gapped them to oblivion. Just auto 3 teams at this point

[viscid urchin]

Dusted

[versed mesa]

So you think I should just sit on my 1 ticket left for today, use it before reset tomorrow. Of course hoping someone below doesn't hit me down lower

[tropic summit]

next opponent, aim for ch7-ch10 if they're visible

[tropic summit]

your objective is starting at C1 on new season start

the best way to do so is staying C4 until before season ends then snipe

if you reclaim now and he leaves you C1 he can snipe you on season end instead

you've plenty of score cuz iirc u stayed C1 whole season, so he can't kick you out of CH1-CH3 range anyway

[versed mesa]

True... It just ego. I think I don't have one, but then this happens and I'm in my head about it

[tropic summit]

let him be C1 until tomorrow and you make it easier on yourself

[viscid urchin]

This is the first ch 10 that shows up. On average the challengers in my bracket are around this amount

[tropic summit]

hmm 685 might still be in range

show their teams

the fact i see naga and rrh means he probably running 2 pseudo pad teams

[viscid urchin]

For reference these are the top 10s

[tropic summit]

ch7 ch8 and ch9 are ironically easier

i think the lad you see on ch10 is just playing it casually or padding

you should probably aim to take out ch7 down the line

he's low level on both commander lvl and CP

[viscid urchin]

As for the ch10 teams:

[tropic summit]

gonna need to play CP tetris here, hard pass

can you get ch9 visible?

[viscid urchin]

I can try

[tropic summit]

if you don't find him check dia 11 dia 12 and dia13

then tomorrow if you keep dia range we hit ch7-ch9

[finite scarab]

how does anisstar vs helmT burst compare in terms of damage?

[tropic summit]

they serve entirely different purposes

[viscid urchin]

Yeah I may need to get to D1 to see ch 9-7.

[tropic summit]

aight show dia 11 - dia 13 range

[swift mango]

You aren't hitting C10 with your investment that's for sure. At rank 23 you could only hit C10. So go after rank 11-15 and wait tomorrow to hit c8-9. If no one dropped you.

[finite scarab]

anisstar buffer, helmT healer..?

[tropic summit]

depends on the situation, anisTT may aswell be AoE DPS, helmT is single hit nuker
so to answer your question, anisTT DPS is higher

[viscid urchin]

This is them:

[tropic summit]

let's hit 13 so you can likely defend easier, 11 and 12 are a tad higher in level and CP

13 is still enough to hit ch8-ch9 anyway

[swift mango]

14-15 is the same range

[tropic summit]

show teams from this NAIRD guy

[viscid urchin]

Presto

[tropic summit]

similar CP and synchro, should've a chance to defend against them

T2 and T3 are fairly easier, T1 is still relatively slow and abusable... let's see

[quaint granite]

@tropic summit 🧅 ⚔️

[versed mesa]

Hit 741. Helm the first to break the 700k cp seal on a single Nikke

[tropic summit]

show CP with these

[viscid urchin]

Maaaaaan and here I was happy to hit 641 yesterday (leveled 30 times).

[tropic summit]

[viscid urchin]

This is against their t2 and t3?

[tropic summit]

you can see enemy teams on the right

yes that's T2 and T3

[glad meteor]

[viscid urchin]

Understood. Sorry still not used to looking up teams like this.

[tropic summit]

the sheets serve to tell you unit position and who's against who, with you assumed on the left
There are also burst generation thresholds, but those are for when you become more accustomed to PvP

[glad meteor]

Rail handing out free belts. Some need to pay for it

[tropic summit]

[viscid urchin]

Right. That. I only remember that RLs and SGs are for burst gen. MGs are bad for it

[tropic summit]

gonna need some refresher

[quaint granite]

Now thats PvP

[glad meteor]

This not zant

[tropic summit]

are you sure

[glad meteor]

I was mistaken

[tropic summit]

no you weren't, you're just tripping

[quaint granite]

Zant is Pinne

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit here is against his T2 and T3

[tropic summit]

looks good, run them

[viscid urchin]

Commencing attack

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/charge-onward-hyped-ivar-the-boneless-vikings-gif-16443044

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-uma-musume-uma-musume-uma-musume-meme-gif-6262998995084575897

[viscid urchin]

AhahahahhHhaaaaaaaaa holy!

[tropic summit]

ok now hold up to tomorrow and we hitting ch ranks

[drifting spear]

Does anyone have an teams that can beat Anis, Moran, Noah, HelmT and SnowHA in rookie?

[tropic summit]

• blanc vestiTU helmT biscuit jackal (vestiTU requires x2 ammo)
  else
• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal (vigor on RH)

[viscid urchin]

Fingers crossed. Even if not THIS is ever sweet. This was the dude that kept me from ever returning to D1 for 2 years. Feels very poetic that I can return the favor

[drifting spear]

The top 5 people are using this comp and I don't know how to counter it

[glad meteor]

Would work unless your me facing my whale. Moran lives anyways

[drifting spear]

@tropic summit was going to try that and then the edit for ammo came up. My Vesti has 0 ammo lines

[tropic summit]

whels need their own strategy

[tropic summit]

aight try the swha version below

give swha tempering

[tropic summit]

you've a chance to hit ch if anything, should be still in range

and you should be able to sit in dia1

if dia 13 starts clearing ur def we can then take on dia 14 or dia 15, anything that lets you hit ch ranks is fine enough

[viscid urchin]

I can seeeeeee theeeeeeeeeeem.

If nothing else this is something to shoot for. It may take a while but again mega thanks for helping.

[tropic summit]

oh ch9 is actually even lower sync range, tasty

[viscid urchin]

Incidentally that player with the Japanese katakana (Viper) was also someone that loved hunting me in Rookie so if I can eventually crush him, even better

[tropic summit]

gonna need to be careful in making yourself enemies

the trick is learning their login patterns and if they're active or just hold their rank

[viscid urchin]

Isn’t that the fate of all that hit challenger though?

[tropic summit]

you'll want to avoid gemmers and sweaties

[drifting spear]

@tropic summit So it worked for the guy that's around my power level. I still can't beat the guy 200k above me. Moran and Anis was just healing too much apparently

[tropic summit]

there's several types of challengers:

• the casuals, log in once or twice, never gem, easily predictable
• the semi sweaties, will regularly check SP arena, may snipe, won't gem
• the sweaties, perma logged in, will regularly min/max, snipe and rat

[tropic summit]

ensure you're not in penalty

multiply enemy CP for 0.846, your team needs to be higher than the value you get

[viscid urchin]

Might be a little tough for me doing it regularly. I got a very active 9-5 job at present and I usually only have time to check things on a smoke break and lunch.

Still that is a worry for later.

[tropic summit]

poking at ch ranks is good enough for you atm, tomorrow is gonna tell a lot

[drifting spear]

@tropic summit Not going to lie,math isn't much strong suit. I'm sitting at 1191006 and Number 2 is 1379559. I might have to just not go after him and just target anyone else around me

[viscid urchin]

Incidentally I am going to miss this whale.

We kinda had a brief rivalry going with competing in clearing Campaign. But…he quit in April. I respected him enough though: he only ever hit me once or twice in any Arena. Seemed to actively test himself

[drifting spear]

My Blanc and biscuit rent exactly built that well. Only 4s and 7s for skill and lev 5 purple

[tropic summit]

yeah sounds like a good plan

bide your time for now until you invest more

[tropic summit]

have myself lost several rivals during the years, a good chunk quit

even spenders at that

[versed mesa]

Holy shit. I just realised that the jump from 740 -> 741, increased my total CP for my SP teams by about 400k CP

[drifting spear]

Regardless, the fact I can take that team now means I don't have to get scrap points fighting under rank 7. I appreciate the help

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

RIP

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[viscid urchin]

Incidentally @tropic summit can I get an upgrade for my Rookie arena? I know it isn’t AS important but just a good general team will do to get other to back off

[hollow lagoon]

🧅

[viscid urchin]

We need a ninja 🥷to cut those

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

I had a Union member who bought almost all gacha costumes, he was from Finland too and joined my Union on the very first days after launch. He quit before Stellar Blade collab last year. Still no idea what happened to make him quit, he was logging everyday just like me up until then.

[viscid urchin]

Or a drunken samurai works as well XD

[shell hazel]

people come and go as sad as it is 🙁

[viscid urchin]

Life gets complicated. Who knows truly

[hollow lagoon]

If u haz biscuit replace noise

[viscid urchin]

Yes I gotz doggo Biscuit

[shell hazel]

we built biscuit yesterday

[hollow lagoon]

Put Noah p2 and put biscuit p5 or 4

[shell hazel]

as I recall he did not have the ammo to indom vesti well

[hollow lagoon]

Time to spend rocks then

[tropic summit]

you can embrace the rookie "funniest" team

anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha

[versed mesa]

It feels silly sitting in C4 with 9.56 million cp while the guy who sniped me is only at 8.14m in C1

[hollow lagoon]

Wait

[shell hazel]

you know what to do

[shell hazel]

ada also wasn't built

noir was mid build

you gotta respect the builds for pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Just build

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

I am tempted beyond belief, but my 3k gems are secure and I don't want to risk him actually going into gemming mode. I don't think he would, but I've been burned before

[viscid urchin]

That’s my own fault for the record. I don’t really care for RE as a franchise but I somehow rolled them with my free tickets, so I didn’t really know what to do

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thinking-think-of-it--k01KRVXTCSP1NK6GX21ZR6YJQ6A

[quaint granite]

Nothing tragic happened right?

[hollow lagoon]

Yet

[tropic summit]

he found a girlfriend, that's tragic indeed

[shell hazel]

started touching grass so much it took over his house

[hollow lagoon]

I rather onion rail then girlfriend

I just did yard work and I found a snake while touching grass

Touching grass is overrated

[shell hazel]

snake? burn it down

[quaint granite]

Here I thought touching grass was a phase

[tropic summit]

right, time to take a flamethrower

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/slither-snake-slithering-cold-hearted-gif-23612948

[gaunt pulsar]

viper

[quaint granite]

Tav is one with nature

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet I lawn mowered viper

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-hippo-stare-moo-deng-gif-812825049170187600

[quaint granite]

Lore accurate

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon

[tropic summit]

the other version was fine too

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t wanna get ngv smite my ass

Pulse she lawn mowered so it’s better to chop the lower half

Lore accuracy

[viscid urchin]

I only worry that my level upgrade cost doesn’t come back to bite me. I used up most of the CD boxes (1 and 2 hr ones) to hit more levels both to start defending better in Arena and start advancing past hard mode chapters.

But leveling is going to be slower now as I recoup the loses or should I start upgrading as soon as it is possible?

[hollow lagoon]

Leveling don’t matter if u chapter capped

Which you probably are

[quaint granite]

Pinne for 4th Anni guys

[viscid urchin]

Incorrect. Only on hard ch.42 at the moment. Though I was stuck at 40 until yesterday

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[quaint granite]

[hollow lagoon]

I cleared Alturia on a f2p 641 account I’m sure you can do

[viscid urchin]

Ehhhh you give me far too much credit.

But I appreciate the vote of confidence anyway.

[quaint granite]

Witch Doctor never wrong

[shell hazel]

he's like 700 sync should be fine

[hollow lagoon]

Lb0 rapi it was I’m sure you can’t be worse than that

[versed mesa]

I never actually had any contact with him outside of the game, so I don't know

He wasn't even in the discord as far as I know

[quaint granite]

Lets hope he is happy anyways, where ever he is

[shell hazel]

standard Finn behaviour 😄

[viscid urchin]

Sometimes you just fall out of love with the game even after regularly logging in

[tropic summit]

you've the required units kinda built for that

crown anisTT RRH helmT privT/mmast/laplaceT/RH

[versed mesa]

I am even 200k cp above the C2 I've been sharing a bracket with for over a year and he is 753

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[tropic summit]

you gonna need to learn the patterns and iframes though

[viscid urchin]

I played HSR regularly every single day for 3 years. And then, right when anniversary hit I realized I just don’t want to continue anymore. So I burned my whole 950 pull stash, E6’d Castorice and some other things, then deleted the game and sent my Hoyo account to be deleted

[versed mesa]

A neighbor who you have lived next to for 20 years moves out. "Oh good luck in the new place. You were such a good neighbor. What was your name again?"

[hollow lagoon]

onion rail

[viscid urchin]

Right, Imma need to get working on PrivT

[tropic summit]

could clear with lappy or RH tbh

[shell hazel]

"wait you were my neighbour for 20 years? seriously?"

[shell hazel]

I stopped at the new planet

just realised I wasn't having fun anymore and the brain-rot wasn't for me

[hollow lagoon]

@viscid urchin

[shell hazel]

I quit HSR with a few hundred pulls too not as many as you had - just yep, was done lol

[versed mesa]

My very first gacha game, before Nikke was Tower of Fantasy. I actually played it a good bit, but same there, just lost interest and then just stopped playing.

No idea of the state of that game at all

[hollow lagoon]

my first gatcha is

[viscid urchin]

Still better options never hurt. I am also active in Co-op and I feel like I’ve been letting them down recently. Same with the URs and SRs,

In UR the highest I could manage was 11bil but people with less synch were hitting that if not more. And in SRs I have not been able to hit past 10% in years.

I…think I should drop my hoarding mindset, at least for the resources (for gems I remain solely dedicated to pulling half and full anniversary units as well as New Years)

[tropic summit]

build the SSS, SS and S tier units, from SSS onward and you'll do fine

most URs bosses are very "linear" and you can copy pasta

we've very no brainer op ass broken units recently

that hardly require manualling at that

[viscid urchin]

…thanks boss.

Anyway I think Imma go and break down more hard 42 stage clears.

[tropic summit]

stay positive, you've a decent synchro and you're in a good range, also progression wise
get that altruia cleared

[shell hazel]

11B in UR?

per team or all teams? 😮

[hollow lagoon]

Onion Rail?

[versed mesa]

I'm just here shooting the shit with the SP window open. It is actually calming my nerves about "I must go back to my spot." Thanks guys

[shell hazel]

yeah, he's NA though

[tropic summit]

don't fall for that

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit you are one hell of a dude. Actually everyone here is TBH.

[versed mesa]

I can actually check C2 and C3 defense teams too for fun

[hollow lagoon]

Onion

[tropic summit]

the rail

[viscid urchin]

11b on Alteisen, 11b on Mace, 9bik on Heavy Metal

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/junji-ito-amigara-fault-manga-horror-this-is-my-hole-gif-11065433351823999031

[viscid urchin]

Man I know “every hole is a goal” but this is kinda…too literal

[tropic summit]

the best 4D chess move you can do is leave him C1 and snipe him on season reset

because he probably didn't account you'd leave him C1

[shell hazel]

I see - at 700 sync you can def do more

[tropic summit]

which fks him over for the next season

because then he needs to gem or snipe again

[hollow lagoon]

🧅 👉

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

Yeah, I just feel like the reason he is doing this now, is precisely to test stuff out so he can time the snipe for the season flip.

[viscid urchin]

Yes…I agree. And I think it is time I started using the rocks I have. Still at 1300+ range and got a good +6 haul on squid today

[tropic summit]

obviously

[shell hazel]

show the teams you ran this UR

[hollow lagoon]

F2P at your sync is around 60-90b

[shell hazel]

it's in blabla it will show you what you did

[quaint granite]

When I retire I will plant Onions and sell it to Rail

[shell hazel]

this was mine

[viscid urchin]

Geez! I uhhh I haven’t been able to hit 1/10 of that sometimes. How bad at this am I?

[viscid urchin]

I’ll go see if I can pull up my runs. Brb

[shell hazel]

it's all teams not 1 team

[rich quail]

What in tarnation is going on here

[quaint granite]

One day I will beat you!

[viscid urchin]

Right

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[tropic summit]

why settle at @shell hazel as objective? beat the @hollow lagoon instead

he's a threat to the world

[quaint granite]

We must unite under one banner and defeat him!

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pixelbandits-aragorn--k01KRVZBSG47KT0ET8XAV7K25HM

[hollow lagoon]

Last raid before the anni 3.5 f2p account

[rich quail]

He is a trespasser!

Trespassers will be violated!

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rohan-will-answer-gif-26431288

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/family-guy-peter-griffin-209--k01KRVZCV4JVYK71ACA3S571GM0

[quaint granite]

Zant will hit 1000b dmg next UR

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Why go after me my account is 2-3 ele I do half the damage normal people is suppose to

[tropic summit]

you reading this @shell hazel

[quaint granite]

[tropic summit]

he says he does half the damage.

grab the hammer i'll hold him

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/the-end-is-near-homer-the-simpsons-doom-gif-16158403

[viscid urchin]

What I attempted this UR.

I know I know, it is embarrassing

[quaint granite]

2 tries?

[viscid urchin]

Nah, ones just the kill during pre hard unlock

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-3579372889873697941

[hollow lagoon]

me did half @quaint granite damage back when i was 464

[quaint granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1494022045007220937/1502457347136684092/GIFImageTemp.gif

[viscid urchin]

Aww how cute. He was hunting me on auto-pilot and didn’t check that I jumped 30 levels since yesterday

[shell hazel]

A FREE BUM

[quaint granite]

How I felt when they fail snipe

[tropic summit]

how times changed

[quaint granite]

New UR higher numbers

[quaint granite]

I was a fresh baby

Tav hahahaha

[shell hazel]

[quaint granite]

Baby emoji

[viscid urchin]

So you needed seasoning and rotisserie?

[quaint granite]

Zant looked after me

[viscid urchin]

D’awwww

[quaint granite]

The Pinne we need

[shell hazel]

we making our own deck builder Rail lmap

[tropic summit]

dayum you gone cookin' good shiet already

[hollow lagoon]

union came a long way from having 63 day afks

[shell hazel]

will work on a bit in the bg over the next week or so

[tropic summit]

doing gods work, keep it up

[viscid urchin]

I must confess, #pvp-arena is far different having spent longer time here.

I didn’t frequent here, not because I thought negatively of users here, but because I didn’t think I’d belong, since I am barely a casual at the arena stuff and really don’t know how to build teams properly. Thought I’d be wasting people’s valuable time. Though this is also my personal flaw as I have been like this since I was a kid

[shell hazel]

zanza = fake zanta

[hollow lagoon]

time to show you my evil side

[tropic summit]

lot of unfamiliar names, i guess quite a few got the bench down the line

[quaint granite]

Afk 1000 days

[hollow lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4hD2DqCzU