pvp-arena

[atomic wolf]

anyways

[haughty mortar]

But I hope y'all know what I am referring to though

[charred quail]

i assume everyone is a dude until i actually hear their voice. however, the people tat i know that also knows hime refer to her as a she so im like she must a she then

[atomic wolf]

ok tbf though you rarely see girls playing nikke in the first place, but still there are so many obvious signs pointed him missing it is just something

[haughty mortar]

Good logical conclusion. But there are a lot of hes that say they want to be called shes.

[atomic wolf]

i'm no stranger to being catfished but i am not the delirious kind that got catfished BAD, just on a surface level, but it did help me know signs of a catfisher

[atomic wolf]

that's probably because they're trans, which has been more common nowadays

[haughty mortar]

THAT is what I am referring to. Hence why I said one ever truly knows nowadays.

A cat Fish typing

[charred quail]

some tell tale signs are claiming to cant speak in vc cause of family or being too shy to vc etc. trying too hard to be feminine. those are the few i know

[atomic wolf]

thats not how catfish works but alright

[charred quail]

fr fr

[haughty mortar]

Was referring more to the trans angle rather than catfish

[tulip acorn]

Im lost, can someone tell me where I can find updated meta arena formations? I dont know where to add my anis and it messed up my current formation

[swift mango]

1- left
2- I would say right but I don't like his investment.
3- probably right
4- hard to say. Who know.
5- left...

I would vote left.

[humble tiger]

She's a girl? Nah u lying.

Girls don't exist.

[atomic wolf]

i didn't ask

[quick lake]

3rd pinned message

[swift mango]

Gender of the soul

[fast nest]

Nikke shut down? End of service?

[umbral crown]

yes

[fast nest]

[swift mango]

Good bye 👋

[umbral crown]

we are free now

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/доббисвободен-добби-harry-potter-dobby-the-elf-freedom-gif-16615829

no more checking rookie/sp daily

[humble tiger]

What's next? Rail is also a girl? And then you? And Zanth?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/makeup-failure-ugly-fat-girl-fatty-gif-20492889

[humble tiger]

[stone heart]

err what nikke can replace emilia, ada ? if one doesnt have them ? laplace T and ?

[swift mango]

what I hate is checking rock roll

[umbral crown]

this too

[swift mango]

rumani, centi, or anything that has high burst gen

[rich quail]

You don’t need to check rock rolls

if you practice ROCK ABSTINENCE

https://tenor.com/view/jon-matteson-starkid-team-starkid-abstinence-camp-camp-idonwannabang-gif-12866188251242760319

[swift mango]

I just need 12 lines for anis

[rich quail]

I have 12 full lines

But 0 ele dmg lines

4 atk 4 cs

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/weak-weakness-disgusts-me-disgusted-disgusting-gif-17171223

[rich quail]

BRO I SPENT ROCKS FOR 8 STRAIGHT DAYS

And got absolutely nuffin

For Anis, Vesti, SWHA, Rapipi

At least 50 rocks overall

[mystic rain]

me when i onetap atk cs ele

[raven plover]

I have 12 lines

[gaunt pulsar]

left
looks like right but feels like left
right
left
right

[charred quail]

Yes

[rich quail]

What kind of lines?

[swift mango]

as long as 12 line for good CP. And some ammo.

[rich quail]

I don’t have ammo either

Shifty Up hates me so bad right now

[river dune]

So I finished all the lost sectors currently and got these two what use would they have for PvP?

Mind you this picture was from last night

[tidal lichen]

rupture maybe

with vesti

stealth not used

[restive heart]

is this team possible to win slow blanc indom? blanc-cindy-biscuit-mihara-anis?

[scarlet adder]

mint burst gen?

[strange linden]

So is Mint a clipRL or not?

[stone heart]

I might be wrong but its normal RL gen maybe

[scarlet adder]

18 shots for single target boss to full burst

not op pvp wise

probably

let me compare with trina

[mystic rain]

its regular mag RL burst gen

[scarlet adder]

trina 9 shots 😄

yeahh she not good

unless she hits like 3 guys somehow

[stone heart]

She going to ordinary Rec anyways lets not push it. I got her 30 pulls lucky i draw scarlet gacha for 10 ADV voucher 😅

[clever mauve]

Plz make me 3 teams for arena🙏

[raven plover]

4 atk 4 cs 3 ele 1 ammo

[worldly wadi]

How can I defeat him?

[high swan]

Same team concept but slightly slower? Something like Anis Blanc SWHA Cinderella Biscuit

I think generally the best way to beat indom teams is to also indom but a bit later so that theirs runs out first and you can get the kill.

Might be a better team comp to achieve this with I'm still learning stuff myself

[rich ledge]

How is mint burst gen? Normal or fast?

[high swan]

Maybe switch Cindy and SW as her nuke goes off quicker actually, and snow might not survive the opponents nuke

[worldly wadi]

It Works Thanks you

[primal charm]

can you explain why cindy here

[gaunt pulsar]

makes him slower, while enemy is faster, but they both still in time to land blanc indom, so slower team wins because faster one loses indom faster

[shell hazel]

the student becomes the master

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-master-nod-agree-beard-gif-17299924

[mystic rain]

im the best nikke pvp player in the world man

[lunar pawn]

so how's mint

[hollow lagoon]

pretty and butt is good

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1497996447780704549/mintwink.gif

[tropic summit]

dayum another close one

[tropic summit]

yep same, voting left

oke so there's no extra min/max available, guess we screwed

[upper grove]

I "just" need 3 more atk on anis without losing power

[humble tiger]

Holy gap.

[high swan]

I just chose someone with less burst gen than helm but still effective, could probably have been a lot of other characters too

[tropic summit]

T1

• scarlet trina rh centi jackal
  T2
• noah biscuit vestiTU helmT anisTT
  T3
• nayuta siren privT swha emilia/laplaceT

blabla link is set to private, put it to public

[mint kite]

Is this going to work?

[quick lake]

dont think so

[tropic summit]

force offburst swha with lifesteal and DR on your side

• moran noah helmt swha siren
  or
• noise noah helmt swha siren

[gaunt pulsar]

@tropic summit https://youtu.be/RBChcv03gIY had a fun t1 match to share 🍿

[tropic summit]

label diffed

nice one 10/10 🍿

[raven plover]

wtf

[gaunt pulsar]

she isn't even fully build 7/10/4, 3 OL, sr5, 0%atk just finally not in such deficit that was able to try something

[swift orbit]

Thank you very much

[mint kite]

Moran DR is going to be better than 2x Biscuit invuln on Noah?

[tropic summit]

moran protects ur whole team, biscuit lets noah stall but ur team doesn't benefit

the units you want there to stall out swha are helmt moran and swha

[mint kite]

So the expected outcome is that SWHA AoE kills everyone even though she's not bursting

[tropic summit]

she'll kill potentially only the units with little life steal

assuming super stonks SWHA she'll still kill everyone minus moran

since you taking away precious seconds with siren

[mint kite]

Okay

[tropic summit]

indoms are extremely sensible to anything that delays or mitigates them

because they're on borrowed time

[mint kite]

Thanks

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit is this alright?

[tropic summit]

the nayuta team you've is guaranteed due to outspeed, the other team is playing a bit risky but should make it even if you indom biscuit

looks fine give it a shot

[scarlet adder]

for now it is planning phase 😄 as long as this guy attacks me after going down i need a plan just in case xD

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/magnus-carlsen-4--k01KRK4TQHN8Q2G51HNGFRKH2KV

[static valley]

Should be public now, thought it was set to public already. My bad

[scarlet adder]

top defend, bottom attack

BBTTT?

aa wait soline rapu hmmm

[gaunt pulsar]

libby pfp dude(top) loses t2 for sure
but should win t4 t5
t1 and t3 are hard to predict 🤔 can both go to scarlet dude, can both go to libby 🫡 but we already having 1/2 so there more chances that libby wins at least one of those 😅
t3 might win if rapu triggers, t1 - he might survive until indom

i think it's actually might be BBBTT

5 units on def shooting rapu is a good chance she triggers

[scarlet adder]

yeahhh ok lets try the other guy

[oak hatch]

Even with rapu stun I feel like it would still lose because Moran would burst first

Scar most likely wouldn’t do enough dmg

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit did you get mint (in bed)?

[scarlet adder]

cause scar not p1?

[gaunt pulsar]

he had previous against moran and won

[oak hatch]

In most cases Moran burst alone makes scar not deal enough damage

[gaunt pulsar]

though that one is slower*

havent watched that match and vod is rip

[oak hatch]

That team is just bad but in this match he also has Noah reducing damage more

Probably rapu stunned there without Moran being able to burst in previous match

[undone blaze]

5 10 pulls on EVE and nothing, not even a dupe ssr

Might just gold ticket her because fuuuu

[quick lake]

Eve aint pvp unit

[undone blaze]

But she's limited

[glass lodge]

how do i counter this

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

🚮

[river dune]

They are that bad?

[swift mango]

more like could use if you had them but pointless to upgrade

[river dune]

I see

[swift mango]

Eve? CN server?

Her ass shake is tier 0, get her.

[covert lintel]

Just a bad day

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-at-this-user-ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-fail-meme-gif-22090542

[undone blaze]

Global

[hollow lagoon]

I died

But he cheated

[covert lintel]

Idk if this works or not but you can try it if you don't mind

[unique wagon]

so hows Mint

@tropic summit

[unique wagon]

I think regular SWHA would kill it SWHA Blanc Ada

wait no

Anis likely outlives SWHA with Helm

Siren might work if enemy no CS

wait its Cindy Burst? well SWHA Blanc Ada then

[glad meteor]

Mint in pvp?

[unique wagon]

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

Report for cheating

[hollow lagoon]

[whole nymph]

Please help me with commands for PvP. I'm currently using these. I'm not sure if this is the best option.

[turbid oyster]

why am I losing so badly

[umbral belfry]

your rocks are mine

omega get outta here!!

[fathom hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-dexter-you-give-me-the-creeps-you-know-that-truthparadox-doakes-gif-2260767060581023552

[umbral belfry]

🗞️

[terse abyss]

this anis/nayuta/helm/biscuit/cinderella setup has been owning me, whats the counter?

[ruby iris]

How can I improve my SA defense teams? I've hit a wall

[hollow lagoon]

[high swan]

Wouldn't Scarlet be better in p1 on the third team so she could counter more? Then Jackal p2 and whoever's third strongest p5 (assuming Siren) in the other position to have all linked units in attacked positions

The other thing with Scarlet is that she isn't great on defense, there are quite a few counters that you can easily build into an attack team like Label or even just a fast Noah team. There's a pinned message with defense team suggestions probably worth looking over

[rough aspen]

Did a few attribute rolls on my Helm.

[high swan]

Siren is also a character who's generally better on attack against specific teams you can punish bad positioning on rather than in defense where you're hoping the attacking person messes up their team (if they know what they are doing they probably won't)

[hollow lagoon]

siren is the best (in bed)

[terse abyss]

i tried anis noah biscuit helm vesti and he actually outlived me

[quick lake]

T1 is bad. Rosa P2 loses conceals and loses nuke dmg.
T2 is alright. RH kinda not doing anything cause u’ll likely not go into another burst cycle
T3 could do Siren P1 for extra buffs. Scar kinda weak in SPA nowadays

[quick lake]

kuwon cookin’

[placid bloom]

you need to kill their defenders without proccing Biscuit, this is the easiest way

unless your RLs so chonky they taking Anis low enough to proc Biscuit

Anis hits too hard

you will probably lose if that happens

because their Anis has Helm lifesteal

well I guess it's like 50/50, but most likely it's a losing trade because Noah will eat the 2nd Biscuit proc most likely

after Noah invin ends

you get like 2s maybe of invin enemy Anis still, so your team gets shredded except Noah who can't solo Anis

[glad meteor]

Your team has no defence. And prob low sync. Check pins for teams

[quick lake]

Scar is cooked

[ruby iris]

Oh damn... I guess I gotta revisit all of them then

I was using rosa to counter blanc/anis/sw/cindy/biscuit and it kinda worked but barely lmao

[quick lake]

SPA cooks are much more interesting now imo

[mystic rain]

LOL

actualyl if thats the case then maybe its better to put anis p1 instead of nayu then

just to make sure she actually gets invul no matter what

but then attacker could just go triple sr and hit p5 isntead then

wait does that work

[quick lake]

Any Indom

[mystic rain]

lol that team was built specifically for indom

vs vesti ada indom

[quick lake]

Hmmmmmm Vesti invest difference maybe

But fair I guess. Vesti can lose

[mystic rain]

yea i asked kisenix abt alternatives to beating vesti indom without using indom and he mentioned the idea of running double bisc charge on anis

so technically as long as anis gets invul the team has a good chance to win vs any indom

....i think

i havent exactly seen how it does vs slow blanc mihara sac tho so thats one thing

[raven plover]

vesti ada... anis

[mystic rain]

jackal blanc or blanc bisc

[quick lake]

Nero Anis Moran can beat, but investment matters

[mystic rain]

might be too slow if bisc

O YEA i remember that

nero anis moran can beat

was that the bay ver too or mana

[quick lake]

Or my meme comp

[mystic rain]

makima

[quick lake]

Nero Anis Moran really dependent on invest/sync. I win when against same sync, but lose to dude 40 sync above me

[mystic rain]

dude idek what makima's kit is

[quick lake]

7s indom at 1HP

[lone sequoia]

taunt on last hit and reload speed... can heal back or something (?)

[mystic rain]

csm rerun doko

onegai shifto appu-sama

[swift mango]

Eve rerun, no hope for emi and makima rerun I see

[lone sequoia]

they already got a rerun

[mystic rain]

hah

[lone sequoia]

now we wait for re:zero rerun

[hollow lagoon]

unlikely, thous aint su IP

[mystic rain]

csm alreayd did?

[lone sequoia]

yep

[mystic rain]

fr?

when was this

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-1748499123257475241

[placid bloom]

it did not get rerun

[lone sequoia]

i think, for a while the makima meme came back, some months ago

[placid bloom]

only Nier, Eva, and now SB

[mystic rain]

misinformation?

[lone sequoia]

eva doesn't count as rerun, part 2 is part 2

[quick lake]

misinfo nesso

[swift mango]

Me when me spread misinformation

[mystic rain]

ayt blocking that guy

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-11251084230089380777

[mystic rain]

byeee 👋

[placid bloom]

[lone sequoia]

training to get MA and kick k here

[placid bloom]

toxic

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[crystal flicker]

Funniest Match lol

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-trolling-n-pokemon-n-pokemon-gif-13433758633284697558

[terse abyss]

Is the idea here to snipe anis with helm burst

[placid bloom]

no, you are wiping everyone except Nayuta with Lib

Nayuta by herself shouldn't lifesteal enough to win the fight at that point

[mystic rain]

whats the speed on that lib team

[placid bloom]

should be 2RL even without Lib even into Cinderella p5

[mystic rain]

actually can u just test and post replay pls

[swift mango]

CSM did get a rerun few month ago but in a different gacha game.

[placid bloom]

you're losing like 2 Helm procs?

[mystic rain]

might actually work as long as anis dooesnt get invul

[placid bloom]

into Cinderella p5?

[terse abyss]

Huh, I didn't think liberalio is that strong to wipe

[placid bloom]

which Lib shot makes up for even with no proc

maybe put quantom just in case

on Noah and Rumani

cuz it might be close tbh

maybe even Biscuit

if it wasn't Cinderella p5 I'd just go Moran but Cinderella messes it up

[mystic rain]

did it win or what

[placid bloom]

Nayuta lifesteal by itself shouldn't win post Noah

it only works into indom because of Anis lifesteal getting shared

Anis lifesteal too fat

[mystic rain]

nayu has the hp share helm has the lifesteal

[placid bloom]

yeah that's what I mean

[mystic rain]

p sure u could block lifesteal with invul tho

[placid bloom]

but Anis is dead in this setup

so post indom it's Nayu solo

[lone sequoia]

i don't know what game are you talking about, if is something interesting, you can share the info, i'm sure those ip get many collabs

[placid bloom]

and she shouldn't win that

she gets like maybe 1 charge shot? Tbh I'm not too sure on the timing her of charge shots post Noah invin

but surely even if she gets 2 shot you shouldn't lose, surely

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-waiting-still-waiting-gif-13052487

[placid bloom]

not like there's any irons on that team

[mystic rain]

still waiting for that replay

[lone sequoia]

yes

[ruby iris]

would these be better?

[mystic rain]

no ada?

[ruby iris]

last one is weird but it was the only way to make it a 2rl rip

[ruby iris]

unfortunately she won't reach 2rl unless I give up the first team 2rl

[mystic rain]

u could put in trina isntead of centi as well

no i think with feed ur fine

[umbral crown]

Yes, use trina

[mystic rain]

u could run quantum as well on snow and trina to go even faster

[ruby iris]

oh I see, alr Imma change xmaiden then

[quick lake]

Much much better

[umbral crown]

She better than centi for moran

[umbral crown]

Bro is cooking

[old holly]

can I get help updating my special arena line-up?

[mystic rain]

oh but with lib thats probably fast enough

[lone sequoia]

it changes some match ups, some are weaker, other stronger

[ruby iris]

good thx, I had completely forgotten about her lmao

[mystic rain]

i use priv instead on my moran team so i need quantum

[quick lake]

I’ve had the most successful defense this season. making cursed defences

[umbral crown]

[old holly]

this is my character list?

[ruby iris]

poor pvp bracket lmao

[old holly]

i haven't updated it since I was 3 months in

[quick lake]

Reset all ur lv10 units too. Reset is free now

[lone sequoia]

??

[quick lake]

he has like 20+ sync lv 10 units

[mystic rain]

quite similar team to mine actually

same concept

neon im still playing around with

[old holly]

no I do that to make sure all my nikkes are above crow

[ruby iris]

how is she doing?

[mystic rain]

in champs shes 100% winrate

in rookie shes 100% lose rate

[old holly]

i just forgot to level up the rest

[quick lake]

Respect

[mystic rain]

in spa tho i havent lost yet

like i was testing how to make neon indom work in rookie and it was quite a pain to make it happen

mostly cuzz everyone in rookie is running anis snow vesti in one team

[ruby iris]

LMAO

[mystic rain]

so its a TON of aoe dmg that fs up indom

[quick lake]

Neon indom is a pain. Her invuln screws up lowest HP

[mystic rain]

champs is a lot less intense so neon indom somehow manages to actually work despite the rng matchup

[quick lake]

aint gonna cook her

[swift mango]

Rimuri has a smaller chance to win so I would vote for him

[umbral crown]

Till next Anni

[mystic rain]

KARYOKUUUUUUU

[mystic rain]

another ez champs for mustache

[placid bloom]

no more gated skill reset window?

[mystic rain]

since u and misty died early

well u didnt but still

[umbral crown]

Wait wait

[ruby iris]

oh damn neon

[umbral crown]

The non sync unts are lv10

[quick lake]

yeah cause he wants Crow
to be last

[mystic rain]

anynways p1 neon is still very volatile

[ruby iris]

my ada has a 15% more cp too

[mystic rain]

like idk the exact speed u want to time indom with neon's invul end

[ruby iris]

so if feed brings it to 2rl that wouldn't be a bad trade lol

[mystic rain]

cuz if too early then neon still full hp
if too late then neon is just dead

[mystic rain]

ada also buffs vesti dps by a LOT

which is main reason why vesti is paired with her

[ruby iris]

yeah she's goated

[tropic summit]

i'll wait on her numbers

[mystic rain]

bruh even the h word is censored

[terse abyss]

I'd have to do it near the reset since it's sp

I mean I could just use biscuit for another matchup but curious if there's steam that could. Best it

[pulsar sandal]

If I use the team like this, will it be good?

[tropic summit]

• split biscuit from jackal blanc archetype
• put biscuit with noah archetype
• don't run lib B3 on defense

[drowsy condor]

Just curious, is there a Enikk.app equivalent out there for CA(past winner compositions for various servers)?

[covert haven]

Emilia rerun pls

[tropic summit]

click on this guy name @swift mango , join that discord, you can then get access to a good chunk of champ winning teams

[drowsy condor]

Much Obliged

[ionic rose]

Just say horni

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT privT drakeT helmT
• jackal vestiTU ada blanc noir
• moran noah biscuit swha trina

[static valley]

Ty

[quick lake]

https://nikke-tools.netlify.app
For JP server. Needa goog translate

[drowsy condor]

Nice, thanks! Just want a source for inspiration(not absentminded mirroring hehe).

[tropic summit]

@swift mango @gaunt pulsar good call

he got invest diffed afterall

his ein indom is having stonks win rate, a mix of good invest + CS% is doing that team solid job

their re-enter variant of moran nero probably didn't help tho

@umbral crown time to go back to your ein indom?

[mystic rain]

ein actually managed to 1v5?

vs nero anis moran?

[glad meteor]

He runs ein indom. But he doesn’t use helmt for gen

[tropic summit]

next matchup has ein indom vs ein indom

the one with worst CS% wins?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

specular ada variant

[tropic summit]

we rich

to think p2p get all of this shiet and more every skin that comes out

@glad meteor

[ionic rose]

Sell for how much?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/all-of-it-jean-luc-picard--k01KRKRS33WGBZYFQDBNAYJFMEQ

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

Zant will sponsor us gacha skins soon

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

thank you @hollow lagoon

i'd like the scarlet one, waiting eagerly

[tropic summit]

[gaunt pulsar]

he has good winrate with his t5 in matches against comps that i would consider unfavorable

[hollow lagoon]

drunk bunny scarlet

[tropic summit]

surprising that bay team managed to hold off several barrages of vesti

i take it his swha managed to survive and kill vestitu rly quickly

[ionic rose]

Im just betting on my rapunzel surviving 1 bullet from vesti

[placid bloom]

well it do be 0 buff Vesti

[charred karma]

My Lycoris account is limited in chat, I want to ask if this team arrangement is okay
moran noah lib helm centi
nayuta vestiT neon trina jackal
blanc anisTT snow HA biscuit

[gaunt pulsar]

i guess just invest diffed and 0 buff vesti actually usually even bisced/bay/moran dont go that smoothly against vesti rl teams

[ionic rose]

https://tenor.com/view/lycoris-lycoris-recoil-recoil-chisato-chisato-nishikigi-gif-1043116124580096178

[tropic summit]

you're missing a unit, i'll add "flex", anything goes in that spot, if you've privT swap with helmT and helmT put her in p5

• moran noah biscuit swha trina
• nayuta centi helmT anisTT flex
• jackal vestiTU neon blanc lib

[tropic summit]

if only silly indie game studio could get their records to work

[charred karma]

oh

ty

[queen smelt]

how do i read this..

[lusty gull]

[gaunt pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-145874853530217971

[ionic rose]

Always happens after an update, indie companies have no money for this

[tropic summit]

yep, not enough resources or time to provide quality

[small gale]

who are the best supports for Rosanna if I want her to take out the attackers?

[tropic summit]

• P1 looks like a likely bot win, blanc p1 without protection sounds fun against a vestiTU + lappy
• P2 kinda weird could go either way but bot has better odds
• P3 main dmg source of bot gonna be denied, i guess top has better odds due to anisTT going wild

[ionic rose]

You either sac Pinne or nuke enemy with Besti

[tropic summit]

if enemy SWHA is present, you need her linked
else, you need her 7/10/10, 40%atk, 40-60% ele and if enemy is non water code you need someone to soften her enemies pre B1 (SWHA, vestiTU, emilia... etc)

[fleet acorn]

hi, what works vs this?

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc helmT biscuit swha

[queen smelt]

im new to this, i dont understand a thing 😭

[tropic summit]

basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

unit tierlist with unit basics:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[fleet acorn]

[tropic summit]

read those two and you'll have a good understanding of pvp core units and how arena works, afterward it's a matter of practice

[tropic summit]

swap helmt and swha and try again, swha with tempering

[queen smelt]

i mean the thing u said like "bot" smth

[tropic summit]

bot is bottom team, top is top team

[queen smelt]

ooh

[glad meteor]

Why she telling me shh @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

cuz you moan too loud

[glad meteor]

Well I’m not stopping

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

gl in finals @ionic rose

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/king-fierce-stand-stop-gif-8972231694001445015

[fleet acorn]

for what i can tell im faster, my indom ends before his

the problem of having everyones +16% CS

[tropic summit]

can fix that with label iirc, is she invested?

or we could get your anisTT to re-enter

there's also the noah rumani biscuit lib helmt variant

[fast nest]

New song seems not that hard upto hard

[fleet acorn]

didnt reroll OLs tho

but yeah, mlb 10/10/10 sr15

[tropic summit]

what was the label sure win team against 2RL anisTT BS rookie team @swift mango @placid bloom

[placid bloom]

[fleet acorn]

i think dude neon is not even cs attuned, thats why my indom ends first

[placid bloom]

that team don't look 2RL

[tropic summit]

either way give this a shoot too

#pvp-arena message

[placid bloom]

Neon takes 1st hit of damage always?

before invin?

[glad meteor]

#gacha-rolls message

[placid bloom]

or she immunes before first hit

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Your team is just faster

[placid bloom]

tbh if that Anis is not 15% cs, she loses to Mermaid

they have no B1

I'm being super generous with enemy cs too

basically their Anis needs 15% cs or they lose both their B2 to Lib

[glad meteor]

tried this? Don’t think they can kill Moran

If neon doesn’t get one tapped. Or she gets dmgd later. I goes there could be problem

[placid bloom]

if you let Blanc resolve it's kinda gamba

[tropic summit]

where C7, those are rookie numbers

[fleet acorn]

this seems to work

[placid bloom]

I would be more confident that their team is not Mermaid immune

[tropic summit]

did they still get someone indommed?

[placid bloom]

well that seem kinda scary ngl

it is just Biscuit Anis pretty sure, no B2

[tropic summit]

pretty darn high anisTT DPS even with siren

[fleet acorn]

yeah anis under biscuit

[placid bloom]

maybe Mermaid hit too hard to keep Anis from proccing

[glad meteor]

I’m not you

[placid bloom]

well I was mainly interested in whether Neon is immune to 1 hit Lib or she has to take 1 hit before immune

seem she just poof on 1st hit

[tropic summit]

you fool, if there's anything i'm confident in nikke is having units with less cores than anyone else

[glad meteor]

That’s my line

611

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

Stay down kid

[obsidian prairie]

Why does Prydwen put the recommended skill level for Noah at 4/4/4?

[shell hazel]

because she works fine at 4/4/4

[obsidian prairie]

Ok

[fleet acorn]

nvm, only worked 1 of 3 times, lib keeps dying before bursting even on tempering, firt one i killed vesti fast

[tardy bone]

@obsidian prairie so the unit purpose gets fullfilled at 4/4/4. Same with other units, but if you want her maxed for more power and shields max her

[placid bloom]

guess their Vesti ele fat

[glad meteor]

But pvp g0on

[placid bloom]

no good way to rearrange either, cuz Mermaid and Lib both weak to fire

[shell hazel]

[fleet acorn]

how much charge speed i wanted on neon again?

[shell hazel]

pve g0on now

[glad meteor]

🍿

[fleet acorn]

20 or 16?

[tropic summit]

f2p tech

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/captain-obvious-thank-you--k01KRKW2SG592NN13YGHK1528GR

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[tropic summit]

when we getting the wild @glad meteor

[glad meteor]

I can’t be tamed

[shell hazel]

soon the isabel collection builds

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-aoyama-нанами-аояма-нанами-аояма-nanami-gif-646161818462015465

[placid bloom]

actually she don't work unless you have C7 10/10/10 SR15 12 black line

[fleet acorn]

how much charge speed i wanted on neon?

[tropic summit]

damn i need more badges

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-robert-e-fuller-hi-hey-cute-gif-23499730

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pokemon-ash-21--k01KRKW5WNX4YMRJTCR7XJDP7TC

[glad meteor]

You can’t do that to the pokemon joker

[tropic summit]

looks enough like a pokemon

MFs can rerun skins but can't rerun collab banners eh

you can't just hate SU enough

[fleet acorn]

how much charge speed i wanted on neon?

[tardy bone]

I need Emilia banner

It’s the only PVP unit I don’t have

[tropic summit]

@gaunt pulsar @swift mango now this one is wild

• T1 iirc vestiTU can actually kill biscuit before she proccs invulnerability, but i'll guess it won't happen based on both sides invest. Left?
• T2 the indom duel i won't bother checking CS% but it's probably gonna be the worst CS%?
• T3 should be a right side win
• T4 essentially specular to above, just that left wins
• T5 again specular to T1, right should win?

lemme know what you think

if it's like above, the T2 actually gonna be decisive, which is wild

[forest zodiac]

will this work? (rookie)

[tropic summit]

might wanna reduce dmg on link with

• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal

you don't rly need vestiTU here, no biscuit

[forest zodiac]

thanks

[tropic summit]

blanc vigor
swha tempura
rh vigor
biscuit vigor
jackal quantum

[forest zodiac]

how impotant some of these vigors?

or just for safety

[tropic summit]

just RH, rest are flexible

you can stat stick blanc and biscuit if you're short on vigor or low lvl

[forest zodiac]

its just I usually forget some of the cubes when repeat fights happens

like you swap cubes for this fight, then swap back to whatever for SP\CA but when you comeback to same fight I often forget if cubes were important

[tropic summit]

cubes are just for ensuring consistency, sometimes you don't really need to bother, but it's good practice to learn when and why you should use a cube

e.g. vigor if RH is lower HP than SWHA is a must

in some teams tempering can decide if you make it to burst

in some others you need quantum to reach thresholds

[forest zodiac]

hmm I won but it was surprisingly scary

[placid bloom]

Priv stun

[tropic summit]

now imagine if you put main link unit in p1 and catched the whole enemy dmg on link

[forest zodiac]

this is right?

[tropic summit]

still consistent, doesn't last long enough if there's no moran

[placid bloom]

you can Drake Vesti and kill Noah before she can burst if you want to be ballsy

[tropic summit]

ye absolutely right, no moran to worry about so even if they stall you a bit, it won't drop lethal

[forest zodiac]

uhm

I just lost repat fight with quilck play

[glad meteor]

Anis crit

[tropic summit]

probably

[forest zodiac]

he was somehow nanosecond faster this time and blanc wasn't able to burst in time

[tropic summit]

did you put the cubes i told you?

[forest zodiac]

I put tempering tempring vig resi quant

[glad meteor]

Nanosecond too close

[tropic summit]

we can drop biscuit and add burst gen

[placid bloom]

I mean it was pretty close the first time too

[forest zodiac]

let me upload second video maybe i was wrong

[gaunt pulsar]

t1 - feels like left
t2 - also left because person on the right feels more unhinged i dont think he planned to have a mirror match so his cs might be on better side. replays would tell
t3 - hard to tell, but feels like right
t4 - yea same, due to split tanking there no clear target focus, so libe should burst
t5 - right

[tropic summit]

jackal blanc swha ada helmT and it's consistent

[placid bloom]

RH literally dying right as Blanc burst, your team too slow

[tropic summit]

stun on B2 cast

[placid bloom]

yeah you are way too slow, you get B2 as they are doing B3

there is some RNG ordering on enemy SWHA target order

[tropic summit]

that's like a frame too short

[placid bloom]

can't rely on that for Jackal feed

[tropic summit]

there's 2 options

drop RH for helmT and reduce your firepower a bit but ensure speed consistency

or add ada offburst in p4 and run swha helmT

• blanc swha helmT biscuit jackal
• jackal blanc swha ada helmT

[placid bloom]

you can also go ballsy way with Drake Vesti and kill Noah before B2 to cut them off B23 but Idk how much ele you have

[forest zodiac]

just did that and won

[tropic summit]

should be more reliable

[forest zodiac]

lets attempt it again

[tropic summit]

pretty unlucky on the frame timing

[lone sequoia]

what about stall?

[placid bloom]

stall is alright

[tropic summit]

could aswell

[placid bloom]

they don't really have the dps to kill through stall

even Anis by herself will solo them

[lone sequoia]

the only problem will be tt against helmT... but ele dmg check

[tropic summit]

they kinda do, it's just that they can kill them before they do

privT and anisTT buffing and DPS is no joke

[forest zodiac]

seems fine

[tropic summit]

although moran stalls will usually still out trade

[placid bloom]

they get like uh, 5% dps on Nero?

that's not enough to kill

[tropic summit]

i don't think he has nero built

[lone sequoia]

is rookie?

[forest zodiac]

yeah, I have ton of cores on nero, but not built

[tropic summit]

[forest zodiac]

how much investments she needs

[lone sequoia]

SR15+S1 lv10 and moran burst lv10

[placid bloom]

don't invest Nero unless desperate

[forest zodiac]

okay

[tropic summit]

nero not doing so hot anyway

SU keeps releasing things that deal too much dmg

[glad meteor]

But nekomimi

[placid bloom]

well she only really lose to Blanc atm

into Noah it should be winning

[lone sequoia]

my hyper carry indom lost against privaty, blanc burst didn't proc after privaty stun (mid cast=cancel)

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/homura-homura-cat--k01KRKY104WNGEB3DEQQJ77Y0X0

https://klipy.com/gifs/nekopara-11--k01KRKY1BAV78YTNBA43V5V400T

[forest zodiac]

two fights with helmt team

[tropic summit]

outspeed privT is real bully

[tropic summit]

looks consistent enough

[lone sequoia]

my comp was slower, it should win with any of the units alive if they get indom... but no indom, privaty stun cancel blanc during cast, i got to b3 but no indom

[tropic summit]

anisTT doing anisTT things

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

nayuta/tt/biscuit/privaty/helmT
my team was moran/jackal/blanc/shwa/vesti

[tropic summit]

where cultists top 10

[shell hazel]

when Kara joins

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon carry us to victory

[lone sequoia]

all 5 units alive after privaty stun, but no indom xd

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor 🍿

[hollow lagoon]

ONION THE RAIL

[shell hazel]

we moving to onion rail soon

[lone sequoia]

i lost "5 union members" after the last DEV note, no content=ff game

[tropic summit]

my pepega f2p ass gonna try it's bestest

[shell hazel]

you can join us we need more good folk

[shell hazel]

actually can you? we may be full 😄

[lone sequoia]

NA casual top50

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

there's always spots surely, bet at least 1 of those is slackin'

[lone sequoia]

but you are SEA

[shell hazel]

wrong region for sure, I could collect other regions for data but cba, global only

[shell hazel]

nah we global

blood is that guy in SEA

[placid bloom]

SEA is only for rich people

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

🧅

[tawny bronze]

Help me against these decks

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

T1

• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal
  T2
• skipperoni cuz bullshietteroni
  T3
• noise anisTT cindy helmt noah

damn SBS indom we back to 2024

P1:

• noise rumani cindy helmt noah
  P2:
• skipperoni
  P3:
• moran bay biscuit swha anisTT

editted, bay you can flex with anchorIM if she aint built

if anchorIM not built flex with trina

cindy not built? got liberalio or privT?

[tawny bronze]

cindy burst first?

[tropic summit]

run these you're on the left

[tropic summit]

noise anisTT cindy helmt noah, so yes cindy burst

[versed mesa]

C4 hit me again. Didn't realise he slowed down his Vesti indom so actually lost the mirror, good thing two other teams won though

[tropic summit]

@torn geode swap anisTT with noah as i just noticed they running siren in p3

better reduce odds you're not 11%CS siren resistant

B1 in p1 will ensure you're not getting stunned

[lone sequoia]

how much was privaty burst delay?

[tropic summit]

same frame as scarlet iirc?

[versed mesa]

Oh nvm, my opponent swapped Laplace with xMaiden and moved Blanc from p3 to p4. My vesti was killing blanc before her burst the previous times

[tropic summit]

most anisTT 2RL teams have natural B2 siren resistance but you never know

you ran your own teams?

why you asked for help then

the logic was to deny SBS with taunter moran on HP stack

when we give you a team it's because there's a specific counter in it

if you then just run your own teams, especially without knowing what you doing, results will differ

try to stick to what people tell unless you really know what you doing

1. you asked for help
2. we replied in minutes
3. you said you don't have units, without telling us what units you've in the first place, so we blind pick
4. we correct the teams with what you likely have and give you a new set
5. run your own teams anyway

on the other side there aren't robots, but people who take some time to give you ideally a winning set

be patient next time

good mindset, you'll get them next time

no problemo

[whole nymph]

Please help me with commands for PvP. I'm currently using these. I'm not sure if this is the best option.

[umbral crown]

She can

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

who cooked these had interesting ideas, except not for a synchro 206

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• moran rrh mmast swha drake
• anisTT privT neonOS naga biscuit
• jackal ein crown vestiTU bsoda

[versed mesa]

I shouldn't have just went yolo on my attack for my spot back. Even though I won, I just went "oh these seem pretty similar as what he had before." was more of dumb luck that the two teams won

[terse abyss]

Just did it now, was pretty effective, wiped everybody except nayuta like you said

Didn't even use biscuit

I didn't have snow white here when I beat I think I was using something else I forgot what, no wait I did use snow white lol had helm in another setup

Label really made defense teams even weaker it seems

[tawny bronze]

Help me fight this 3 in SP arena

[tropic summit]

imagine making a siren defense team that is siren weak

[tawny bronze]

The problem is this team have 300k-500k difference in power than my team

[whole nymph]

Question: Why are Drake and Soda in these teams? They're pretty weak and don't provide any damage or gear level.

[placid bloom]

well you are working with scraps and your roster isn't big enough for you to be picky about battery options

[leaden canyon]

Probably for burst generation

[tropic summit]

assemble these and show CP, let's see if we can pad

[tropic summit]

kuwon and dair already provided the answer, it's a mix of burst gen and padding to make somewat working teams with threat

[whole nymph]

Well, whatever level of synchronization there is, that's it... unfortunately, I don't have any other.

If you're rich enough to sponsor me with a donation so I can buy a bunch of resources, I'd be happy to accept it! xD

I created these teams myself, because I thought they were the most profitable after testing and watching battles.

[whole nymph]

Doesn't rocket launcher do this better?

[tropic summit]

the teams are good, it was actually meant as a compliment, there's good synergy... but you don't have the CP or the units built to run those yet

also as you can see the CP is all over the place, so it won't work

[tropic summit]

here's the top burst gen options, mostly it's clipRLs

[leaden canyon]

Not all rocket launchers have the same burst generation

^yeah that chart

[placid bloom]

like 1/3rd of the units also not available either

[whole nymph]

Okay. Sorry. I guess I misunderstood a little.

[placid bloom]

Emi, XMaid just straight up not available and a bunch like LapT and HelmT need invest before they are usable at all

[leaden canyon]

When you dont have everything in the game to work with, you want your teams to at least be 3RL speed

[whole nymph]

Thanks! I didn't know this existed.

[tropic summit]

no problemo, those teams are temporary anyway, it's what you can run "best" for now

once you unlock more pvp core units you'll upgrade down the road

[leaden canyon]

Btw whats the word on mint

[placid bloom]

should be PvE only

and only for single carry funnel comp

[leaden canyon]

easy skip for me then

[tropic summit]

pve but prika may change things depending on synergy

so essentially: wait

[north brook]

is reenter just an extra tick at same speed as all the other bursts or is there any extra lag?

[leaden canyon]

[placid bloom]

well she is definitely strong

when she is actually usable

[leaden canyon]

delays burst by like a second

[placid bloom]

but like not enough of an upgrade over existing char imo

it's sidegrade option

[tropic summit]

2RL B3 is on 2.5RL B1
2RL re-enter B3 is on B3 when 2.5RL is on B2 (meaning they reach blanc or noah or similar)

[leaden canyon]

because you are bursting with 1 more b1, so its going to delay your other bursts

[versed mesa]

Yeah gonna skip Mint unless Prika is like some giga op synergy with her. I'm assuming we will see Prika's kit before Mint banner ends

[north brook]

im just wondering if theres any extra frames from normal delay

[placid bloom]

should be standard delay

[tropic summit]

it's one more step to the usual delay between bursts

[leaden canyon]

the anis re-enter with moran has the capacity to work, just depends on if your opponent has enough damage to go through the hp increase and damage reduction

[keen wolf]

Is there a reliable Soda counter? Her RNG stun is RNGing. Full comp is Scarlet/Soda/THelm/SWHA/Trina 2RL and she's the B1 so it feels impossible to get much off before her

[placid bloom]

Label

stun don't matter if they can't lethal

[tropic summit]

Any:

• anisTT blanc neonOS biscuit swha/helmT
• anisTT blanc biscuit cindy helmT/swha
• anisTT blanc swha biscuit helmT

[keen wolf]

Perfect thx, i'll give that a try

[leaden canyon]

speaking of neon I need to fix her overloads

Missing 3 attack lines

[placid bloom]

tbh on p2 Soda you can also just kill her before she can burst

Scar Nayu Trina Vesti Anis should lethal her before she can do jack

[glad meteor]

I was thinking this lol

[tropic summit]

oh ye works too, extra safety measure with a nayuta B2 instead i guess

glass cannon won't survive anisTT + nayuta for seconds

[placid bloom]

well Nayu might get stunned and you burst Biscuit

but Anis can solo

I prefer kill p2 route though, there is very little room for error unless Soda eats like 0 Scar counter and Vesti is potato

[leaden canyon]

Usually soda is with a scar team so I just label it and call it a day

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/potatoes-sam-gamgee-same-po-tay-toes-gif-5319438

[umbral crown]

[keen wolf]

This worked initially at least. Looked like a loss as it went down to just Anis and Nayuta after Scarlet ulted and then it said Win instead of Loss 🤣

Honestly have no idea what happened

[placid bloom]

Anis star shots

they still hit even while stunned

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor easy mint
#gacha-rolls message

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1--k01KRM2EY6HKX8SE8R10X2KQ508

[versed mesa]

You should have seen some Scarlet vs Scarlet match ups I did way back before I realised full mirrors aren't the best option always Both sides hit B3 almost on the same frame and the screen just flashed and I was sweating if it will say win or loss

[keen wolf]

Oh very familiar with that, hah. Haven't actually watched any AnisTT matches before though

[placid hinge]

so i want to update my SP arena teams i can tell you which units im missing since i have like 95% of the units and i just need to get the comps for them is all which the ones im missing are K/ Delta ninja / Minty

[tropic summit]

shoot stars
everything dies
profit

[glad meteor]

[versed mesa]

And if both have Anis, the one with the bigger bal... stars wins

[placid hinge]

the teams i had were pre nayuta etc

[tropic summit]

• moran noah biscuit swha lib
• nayuta anisTT privT emilia/laplaceT helmT
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc drakeT/bsoda

[whole nymph]

One more question. Is the order in which the characters are listed here the optimal order for their placement in battle?

[tropic summit]

yes from left to right, for several reasons:

• targetting
• burst order
• situational placement due to unit role

[versed mesa]

Why would rail give you bad ordering?

[placid bloom]

there is also some stuff you need to consider when you start your own cook like survival pre-burst in the case of wind and water unit

cuz Vesti and now Anis can blow your p1-3 up before you can burst on certain set up

[whole nymph]

I'm just a little confused by Biscuit in the last slot. Will she not be killed there? Sometimes heroes in that slot take damage. I don't know from what. Probably from AoE.

[placid bloom]

iron starting to have some issue too into fast Nayuta

no more Jackal with LapT link, that is asking for death

[tropic summit]

from SGs, SGs target p5 when you attack

[arctic jewel]

Elysion mold was kind to not give me a Belorta

[tropic summit]

those are defense teams, so SGs target p1, which is biscuit protected

[cedar sorrel]

Im on my 2nd copy bruh I need her for my lobby 😭

[versed mesa]

Eunhwa glow up from base to alt is the biggest in the entire game.

[arctic jewel]

Now only 6 months left when I get a working Absolute team

[arctic jewel]

word

[placid hinge]

so i have laplaceT and Drake T are they better than bsoda and emilia relatively?

[whole nymph]

Okay, thanks! I'll keep that in mind.

[eager brook]

What would this win against? I know it loses to Indom 100%

[arctic jewel]

Anis banner gave me 2 copies of Eunhwa

so I was a bit lucky there

[cedar sorrel]

Must be nice yeah

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

prefer invested emi over lappy, if emi is low CP go lappy
drakeT and bsoda are interchangable, run the most invested. for the indom team (the vestiTU blanc team, that SG unit must've higher HP than vestiTU)

[versed mesa]

I'm a still waiting for a Crown spook I was lucky in that I got 1 copy during her banner, but it's been like 2 years? Only 1 extra dupe in that whole time

[cedar sorrel]

On my 200 pulls for 1 copy of aniss I got swha dupe as the only other useful SSR lol

[placid bloom]

me just 200 mileage for Anis

[tropic summit]

indom is the safe method 1
anti nuke with 1 hitko units is safe method 2

[cedar sorrel]

I was saving for a while + there was rebate so I mostly pulled for fun

[placid bloom]

rebate worthless tbh, already have like 99% of the perma pool

I'm just get more pulls towards perma unit

[placid hinge]

gotcha i have mlb emi compare to only core 1 lappy while drake is core 6 and bsoda is only core 2

[cedar sorrel]

Stellar blade rerun jumpscare + summer units soon is konda scary tho

Cuz I kinda wanna mlb a couple of those for the lobby

[placid bloom]

damn rich lobby collector

me poor homeless lobby

[cedar sorrel]

Not rich I skip every other banner 😭

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

someone is on a mission

[cedar sorrel]

Eve and raven are very good looking

[placid bloom]

I skip like every banner that's not collab or seasonal

[versed mesa]

I got Eve Mlb during the actual event, wondering if I should go for Raven mlb for SR team, have only 1 copy now

[fleet acorn]

how much charge speed i wanted on neon?

[placid bloom]

15% if you can

[arctic jewel]

Core 1 Eve, 0 copies of Raven

[placid bloom]

if you rich

1 ammo 3 cs 4 atk 4 ele

[arctic jewel]

nvm, Core 2

[placid bloom]

[fleet acorn]

I see ty

[versed mesa]

Are you actively pulling right now? "Oh nvm Core 3"

[placid hinge]

i have mlb raven but base eve lol

[arctic jewel]

actually not, only pulled for Mint (got her on my first 10 pull)

[placid bloom]

I think you should C7, you sound rich

[arctic jewel]

pffft

[versed mesa]

Not gonna lie I went hard on 2B and MLB during first time, on rerun I still pulled more, even when she is basically useless for anything anymore That ass tho...

[placid bloom]

you can pull her out for co-op

[arctic jewel]

🍑

[placid bloom]

enjoy your 2 min gameplay

[arctic jewel]

I wouldn't pull out at all

[versed mesa]

When I say "went hard" means using any gems I could scrounge up from minigames and stuff

[placid hinge]

is there any collab units your missing?

[arctic jewel]

rip, joke didn't work

[tropic summit]

those who had to get it, got it, don't worry.

[placid hinge]

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[placid bloom]

damn rich CSM lobby haver

[arctic jewel]

bless

[versed mesa]

I didn't pull at all for CSM, ReZero, Evangelion(either one)/ whatever the last one with Chisato and whatever.

[placid hinge]

ofc its the f2p unit LOL

i have all csm units just not mlb

[versed mesa]

Only one I regret is Emilia, since I had no idea about PvP viability at the time

[placid hinge]

of the rezero the only one i got mlb was emilia

[ruby iris]

I missed a peak lobby screen

[lone sequoia]

i'm not a fan of csm, but to me that is the best character they had

[versed mesa]

Main reason I didn't pull for those events was because I haven't seen any of the shows, so had no connection to them that way, also they didn't look hot enough (to me)

[lone sequoia]

even if you watched the series it was not good enough for the first collab of this game

[versed mesa]

Well I haven't seen it so can't make that call

[lone sequoia]

the series was not popular on japan and the main income source was japan with something like+57%

[lone sequoia]

i read the manga, the story was fine until... around chapter 62, the only good thing compared to other series was the number of pages, every chapter was 20 pages, no more, no less

the art... looked like sketch, but it was something

[strange linden]

@tropic summit lost 1st try again
he use moran/noah/anistt/neonVE/biscuit
Jackal/scarlet/blanc/SWHA/HelmT
Nayuta/Cinderella/Drake/Trina/Noise

think of doing vesti blanc on T1 and the usual noise/cindy on T3

[tropic summit]

he really likes his scarlet uh

[strange linden]

I guess there's no other good def at this point

[tropic summit]

yes that's correct should solve, vesti will eat both biscuits on T1 and T3 is weak to anti nuke

[lone sequoia]

are those DEF teams?

[strange linden]

what team for vesti? not sure if I should do 2RL or 3RL

[lone sequoia]

or you need an atk?

[tropic summit]

you've to do 2RL or fed to 2RL

vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal regardless will hit 2RL, you're being fed by ARs

[strange linden]

one AR is enough for 2RL ? I see

[tropic summit]

give him a set of creative def, opponent has been defeating each one of his defs even tho he's not gapped

[strange linden]

those are DEF comps yeah, we're always beating each other tho he's the better one since I'm asking here lol

[tropic summit]

add CS% and quantum, you're 2.2RL or 2RL based on feed received

both are going to hit blanc B2 in time before enemy B3 pops so you're indommed

needless to say vestiTU needs tempering and RH needs vigor if you need HP requirement

an AR is generally between 8 to 12% feed

[lone sequoia]

but i don't make DEF, it takes too much time, then i check again and i beat my DEF first try

[tropic summit]

you can always see feed received on nikke deck @strange linden

at 2RL that team produces 10% feed, your vestiTU needs only 7.2%, you're well enough fed to 2RL

[signal hull]

Any info on Mint's burst gen?
This thing in pinned https://nikke.work/ isn't working for me.

[strange linden]

I lost moran survived lol

[cedar sorrel]

Regular RL Im assuming which is like 11.9% iirc

[strange linden]

guess I'm done now

[lone sequoia]

what about
moran/noah/lib/vesti/trin
nayuta/tt/biscuit/priv/helmT
neon/jackal/ada/blanc/swha?

[upper grove]

who wins here, I need to get my last prediction right

[shell hazel]

presumably the neet match right?

[upper grove]

yep it's the finals

[shell hazel]

I voted @ionic rose for power of friendship reasons lol

[lone sequoia]

top DEF or ATK?

[shell hazel]

but I didn't check the teams

[upper grove]

top is def

I have no idea if that triple absolute team can oneshot stuff

[lone sequoia]

probably something like B-B-A-B-/ R5 depends one soda tanking S2, but soda is weaker against scar... i'm retired from pvp so all this is bs

[finite prawn]

This is my current team for sp

Is this better or would you say those teams you sent before are still preferable?

[dense roost]

@covert lintel

stop bully

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

x2 ammo and 30-40% atk?

you're on double buff so maybe you just ran out of ammo

start bulding her, she's useless without being built

[tropic summit]

run these on def @strange linden

[strange linden]

not good I guess, is there another way to win?

[tropic summit]

oh ye low ammo

[strange linden]

yeah I put it, if it doesn't work I'm done I guess lol

[lone sequoia]

those are just random teams, i don't think you can defend with them unless the guy is dumb

[tropic summit]

ye plenty of ways to win, you've a good box

[strange linden]

does Nero/AnisTT/flex/HelmT/Moran works against his T1 or 2?

[tropic summit]

no need for nero BS here, stick to classic counters

laplaceT flexible with emilia or lib btw

if scarlet isn't well built you can vestiTU indom or swha indom against enemy T3

make sure linked unit is in p5

(or jackal herself)

in that team i'm assuming scarlet and vestiTU are linked

and scarlet will be naturally lower HP than vestiTU due to self dmg

[whole nymph]

This is what I managed to do for her. Compared to my units, she became one of the best. I was "lucky" that the random gave me a bunch of useless SMG dolls.
Unfortunately, I don't have the 2d crystal yet. I'll have to wait a bit before I make for her the second OL item.

[tropic summit]

hmm should've built crown first probably but oh well

[whole nymph]

The crown is built. Everything that is needed for it is at its maximum.

[tropic summit]

you can change T3 to

jackal nayuta ein vestiTU bsoda

adds a lot of early threat compared to earlier

combos well with sg pressure and vestiTU

[livid rover]

https://x.com/i/status/2054948851447214219

よん。 (@yon_NIKKE)

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X · May 14, 2026, 3:35 PM

[lone sequoia]

you don't play DR against blanc, you will probably lose all the fights against indom unless you can stall with biscuit or something

[livid rover]

https://x.com/i/status/2054777835236319676

NIKKE wiki JP (@nikkewiki)

NIKKEアリーナ用ツール
https://t.co/8lxjIV0e15

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X · May 14, 2026, 4:16 AM

[whole nymph]

Just randomly gave me 5 AR dolls, several SMGs and 0 miniguns.That's why my Crown is now much lower in equipment level compared to other characters.

[whole nymph]

TY!)))

[strange linden]

I just realized, ada is not linked will she get the indom?

[lone sequoia]

naa, only neon+swha, i don't think it matters since those teams are just bad, but good enough to check

[strange linden]

I tried on rookie, she does get the indom because of neon's indom at first lol

[lone sequoia]

ada or swha?

[strange linden]

ada

[lone sequoia]

ok, that is bad

let me think

[leaden gull]

What's the best rookie team these days?

[lone sequoia]

the one that have more than 40% cp than your opponent

[leaden gull]

Not hitting that lmao, this is just for def

[strange linden]

nothing will work in rookie if they barely know what they're doing, the only good def is having a bigger CP than your opponent

[finite hinge]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTc2OTk4NzMwNjE5Nzc2NzA4Mg%3D%3D
It's been about three months since my last visit to the channel, and I'd like some assistance with team comps. I've noticed my Moran team significantly lagging behind the others.

[lone sequoia]

do you have another b3 with more atk than neon?

[keen smelt]

is rail here

[keen smelt]

POOOKIE

[strange linden]

plenty of them, she's only lb0 with a low OL atk cause I focused on charge speed for her

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-dress-up-darling-blush--k01KRM8GRP3E7VPSF6VHFV6M14J

[keen smelt]

HIIII

long time no see i’ve been bussssyyyy

[tropic summit]

don't forget to breath and take care of yourself in between being busy

what's keeping you busy

[keen smelt]

vacation

i go back home tomorrow though

[tropic summit]

that's not busy, that's having fun

[lone sequoia]

check
moran/noah/privaty/helmT/trina
tt/bay/biscuit/swha/ada
jackal/vesti/lib/blanc/neon

[keen smelt]

busy having fun

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[strange linden]

why Neon btw? I thought she was bad in pvp

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-girl-im-innocent-anime-im-innocent--k01KRM8QHVDVPH2B9EW93DZJ3PE

[glad meteor]

Marin in a bra. Very innocent

[lone sequoia]

she is not bad, we have better units that do a bit more than neon

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

[strange linden]

2m86/2m50/2m54

it should be fine since it's around my opponent's cp

[finite hinge]

bumping

[glad meteor]

For the last hour I’ve been hypnotised by rangiku from bleach. When collab

[tropic summit]

those are not her eyes

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT helmT noir lib
• moran siren swha drakeT noah
• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT

[steel barn]

Anyone who could help me figure out who will win here for my final prediction? The bottom guy is the attacker

[tropic summit]

leaning for bot to win, but ask for more opinions i guess

T1 T3 and T5 are decently clear

T2 as some RNGy factor

T4 probably should win the trade as swha is slow on casting B3

[flat fiber]

is there an easy to read team comp guide anywhere?

[tropic summit]

basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

guide per unit: (slightly outdated but has most pvp core units)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

team examples:
#pvp-arena message

[finite hinge]

Heard, TY

[ionic rose]

Bro if my Rapunzel can survive 1 shot of that vesti i can win. Also if hes stupid his Nayuta might be 2nd highest atk which means Anne can gimme a miracle. And also im praying his soda doesnt stun Trina. I honestly have a chance to win! Trust!

[tropic summit]

what do you mean you've a chance? you winning this, trust the process

[ionic rose]

Process = RNG

[finite hinge]

I just have to make sure Label isn't on the enemy team for team 3, right

[tardy bone]

So, is Mint PVP worthy or no?

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit

[glad meteor]

No

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/kelly-clarkson-kelly-clarkson-fall-failure-kelly-clarkson-fail-i-dont-know-my-own-song-gif-16498681933627865965

[delicate cove]

idk if im understanding this wrong but does label hard coutner electric code units?

so anytime i see enemy defence with electric carry i just pivot my label team onto them

[rich quail]

It helps a lot, yes

I dunno about failproof… depends on your general team build and your atk comp

[last vigil]

@tropic summit need a team to beat this and other team comp in sp

[thorny sequoia]

PVP GODS

need advice

Should I level up Vigor Cube ( health up)

Or

Tempering cube? ( Damage reduction)

For the support / tanks in PvP?

Thank you in advance!!

[nimble root]

[umbral crown]

Tempura all the way

[delicate cove]

make it 100000 rocks and were talking

[umbral crown]

boi got nuked

did not have the time time to summon the mods

[stone heart]

I have question,
I know of helmt burst can be taunted
But how rossana burst ? Since she target 2 attacker ? I never see the behavior

[opal steppe]

Will this team win or any better recommendations? I checked and it has the power to do it, but maybe not the right comp

[noble python]

It would depend on how well built your Besti and Rosanna is

[obtuse tendon]

Question for the gurus. What's a good counter to this team? I'm using it as atk/def team and it was holding off players with more cp. Now some of them use it now so I wanted to see how i can counter it.

[noble python]

You’d need to overwhelm this team with damage

[ionic rose]

Either nuke it with Absolute or use the same team but let it burst slower. If ur liberalio is C7 with 4xatk u might be able to bypass biscuit and nuke it