pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

either way good thing i gave you 3 winning teams

[static dew]

I never used shooting range and mostly play casually. . .

[tropic summit]

time to start then

[static dew]

I also need to update my defense, cause it loses too often

[tropic summit]

is your helm phase 2 (or more) and s1 lvl 10 btw?

[static dew]

Phase 2?

[tropic summit]

treasure phase

[static dew]

Oh, it is maxed

[tropic summit]

skill 1 lvl 10?

[static dew]

All my treasures are (the ones that i have)

[swift mango]

Hmm could try. Idk if Libby could survive to land the wipe even with Label protection though.

[static dew]

Whoops

[tropic summit]

ok because you were lucky on T2, you almost missed B2

get that s1 lvl 10

[swift mango]

And Scarlet indom is still hard to kill.
But could try

[tropic summit]

this thing nearly got you killed @static dew

[worthy knoll]

Moran and Label should stack at least, but yeah wonder if Libby can survive Anis after the 5 sec at least to drop the burst

[swift mango]

I will report back tomorrow

[static dew]

Yeah, noticed
That was really close

[tropic summit]

fix s1 to lvl 10 and you're good

[static dew]

Done

[tropic summit]

awesome

[static dew]

So, my defense team is this (yes, i was using defense team as attack one, it worked so far)
And people in my bracket regularly win against me, no matter how i rotate teams in those 3 slots
And i end up in diamond

[covert lintel]

why did i do

I just said i'm gathering 20draw for last day

[tropic summit]

hmm teams are fine and units are good but if that's an old def opponents probably long since solved it

you need to change up your archetypes and logic

post your box or blabla link set to public

[covert lintel]

It's for this but i hope neoneon come home along the way

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-clap-5--k01KRBMA0YNRFG249SFPC79GQ5Q

[static dew]

This?
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMzU4MDg3Njg4ODM5OTE2NjY0NQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMzU4MDg3Njg4ODM5OTE2NjY0NQ%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

ye it works

[remote thunder]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTkyNTk0MDEyNDczNDkwODkzOQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTkyNTk0MDEyNDczNDkwODkzOQ%3D%3D Does this work as well?

This isn't really working for me

Need better teams

Been comfortably sitting at diamond 3-5 for the past 3 brackets

[hot shuttle]

anyone know a counter to this team?
blanc/vesti:tac/biscuit/emilia/star anis
nayuta/t-centi/t-helm/rh/rumani
scarlet/trina/rosanna/jackal/noah

[tropic summit]

give these a shot for defense next

[remote thunder]

Yep wrong reply

[static dew]

✍️

[tropic summit]

is your bay built?

[static dew]

Um, two Blanc? In t1 and t2

[hot shuttle]

kind of. she is 7-7-7 and has no ol gear yet

but she is phase three of treasure

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmm

[tropic summit]

bay in T2, keep blanc in T1

[static dew]

ok

Defense set, will report in a week or so
Depends how often i will wake up to diamond again

[remote thunder]

@tropic summit Hi and is this literally my current best team formation for SP? Just curious if I can still improve my teams

[glad meteor]

Nekomimis

[tropic summit]

@hot shuttle you're on the left, T1 a bit iffy but may make it

[hot shuttle]

okay i’ll give it a shot.

[shell hazel]

[cunning creek]

hello what are the best 3 teams for sp arena since i got all units and have enough resources for them want to push to top 10

[hot shuttle]

it didn’t work t1 and t2 got taken out.

[tropic summit]

T2 is your laplace treasured? that's not 2RL
T3 enemy isn't 2RL, helmT was supposed to die, can fix positioning

T1: skip
T2: noise anisTT cindy emilia noah
T3: jackal bay helmt biscuit swha

[hot shuttle]

yeah my laplace is treasured. she is 10-10-10 and full ol as well.

[glad meteor]

I wonder if I made it

[tropic summit]

as rosy would say, trust the process

[glad meteor]

Are we in same bracket

[tropic summit]

refer to these:
#pvp-arena message

prefer 2RL nayuta/anisTT/vestiTU/SWHA/moran teams

[cunning creek]

ty

[hot shuttle]

it worked thanks! also forgot to mention a counter for this team for rookie.
star anis/blanc/swha/biscuit/cinderella

[tropic summit]

oh that's one of the most cancerous rookies

imo just don't fight it, get your 5 easy wins

[hot shuttle]

is the counter team hard to make for that one?

[tropic summit]

not as hard, just that there's a lot of RNG to predict

[hot shuttle]

meaning, like even if there is a counter team for it, it might not win sometimes?

[tropic summit]

you can try this:

anisTT moran s.anis biscuit helmT

anisTT quantum
moran tempering
s.anis resil
biscuit vigor
helmt tempering

should've s.anis healing a whole bunch while you stall out SWHA

[hot shuttle]

if that’s the case I might just make that my defence team tbh

[glad meteor]

Vesti blanc ada not enough dmg against moran noah

[ionic rose]

[tropic summit]

C7 moran 40%def SR15 tempura

[glad meteor]

Delete pvp

[hot shuttle]

yeah that team doesn’t work. i’m a hit someone else instead.

[shell hazel]

it's on you now. Tenshi died too btw

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-good-luck-gif-20034388

[tropic summit]

did you get to have s.anis lifesteal at least? or dedge early?

[tropic summit]

pff the damage spike at 2.5RL is ridicolous

thanks for sharing

can't even get lifesteal going

[scarlet adder]

@gaunt pulsar

but i see your luck ended

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor what is dis shiet

why they always have better team ordering

[glad meteor]

Fookn label

[gaunt pulsar]

yep
t3 had a chance i think, but i didnt do the job

[tropic summit]

why bay so f*ing useless

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

then again her cover went kaboom, MF running nayuta anisTT and emi

team order RNGroni

[glad meteor]

Imagine caring about pvp

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/work-screw-it--k01KRBPY0K2HBQK4WVD1F0K8SVE

[glad meteor]

Ill go back to playing with myself in my museum

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-zzz-doro-pink-hair-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-1350981982149880909

[tropic summit]

playing with yourself

[glad meteor]

Problem?

[tropic summit]

at least bring isabel and throw away the key

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Can only live in fiction for so long

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

One of these days

I’ll break away from this toxic relationship. And I’ll be sync bricked. But I will find

Peace

[tropic summit]

amen

https://klipy.com/gifs/defeat-me-win--k01KRBQ2DGM650E0J34APVHMYNZ

@umbral crown it's all chinnits again

minus retro's ex union bud

[glad meteor]

At least I can do this

[glad meteor]

Gacha skins

[hot shuttle]

No worries yeah this dude‘s team beat the crap of me. I might just use his defence team as my defense but at the same time, I don’t want other players to catch on that this team is really difficult to beat…

[swift mango]

Enemy use Libby > you use bay.

Not to mention Anis.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[shell hazel]

gotta train that team ordering skill

[swift mango]

Man, just went back to look at yugioh card price after 4 years and all the card I collected had their price crashed thanks to quarter century card sets and Komani final stop short print everything... Some 10$ cards now not even 1$, I should have sold them off 3 years ago when everything still expensive.

On the plus side for everyone, physical Yu-Gi-Oh is like 10 times cheaper to play now.

[placid bloom]

it is cheaper if you not trying to get the newest cards yes, but a lot of the older deck cannot keep up

[swift mango]

Accesscode talker is bulk card now.

Try to find one 3-4 years ago

[cedar sorrel]

@swift mango u play md?

[swift mango]

Man my shit team won again

[swift mango]

On and off

[shell hazel]

turns out hp stacking does not defeat vesti indom

[placid bloom]

I mean that card is also super old, it's supposed to be reprinted into the ground at this point even without rarity collection

[shell hazel]

and SWHA can not chomp through this

[swift mango]

I should have sold all my cards 3-4 years ago and bought the ghost rare. I would be rich now 4-5 times return.

Instead of everything became useless card biard

[placid bloom]

nah you should have invest Pokemon, why you trying to make money off Yugioh

Yugioh doesn't make money

[swift mango]

It's not really investment I just wanted to collect card but saw my collection devalued feel bad

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

Ghost rare (and other extremely limited stuff from 2000s) all 4-10 times value up from 3-4 years ago

All other kinds of card crashed

[agile agate]

are any of these fav items worth investing for pvp?

the only ones i have left to do

[glad meteor]

SW and vesti mid fr

[glad meteor]

No

Unless you want to cope milkt

[agile agate]

alr

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

Yes

[cedar sorrel]

Are u good or nah

[swift mango]

How are you doing @worldly osprey ? Well, I could check

[swift mango]

Wdym?

[cedar sorrel]

At yugioh

[glad meteor]

Oh yh, i told you. Believe in t2

[swift mango]

I don't play meta, spent time building my hobby deck that could win sometime is good enough.

I considering myself okay in yugioh, after 25+ years with it. Used to be active on problem solving card text chat on forums in 2011~

I could play meta if I wanted and win easily I guess but I'm not into that now.

[cedar sorrel]

What decks do u own currently in MD? We could run some friendlies cuz I own non meta decks too

[swift mango]

Gusto.
Madolche
Ritual Beast
My most "meta" deck is Shaddoll.

I should play more to acquire more deck.

[cedar sorrel]

Ritual beast is actually goos tho right?

[placid bloom]

just buy Dragonmaid structure deck, it's cheap

[cedar sorrel]

I remember on release it was being spammed a bit

[swift mango]

I could build that deck ofc but I didn't

[placid bloom]

RB is alright, it's very fair deck if no Protos tbh

[swift mango]

I pulled for alt art of that deck before.

[placid bloom]

Protos is what makes it toxic

[cedar sorrel]

Or colossus

Or both

[placid bloom]

cuz the endboard of RB is just Steeds + Rei and maybe Gaiapelio

so like 2-3 pops + a banish and maybe 1-2 negate if you have fodder in hand

[cedar sorrel]

Gaiapelio is insane tho

[swift mango]

Proto? Full name please

[placid bloom]

Archnemeses Protos

I forgot if it got banned in MD or not

maybe it got banned because of Ryzeal

[cedar sorrel]

Searchable with infernal flame banshee into add nemeses flag

Protos is allowed

[placid bloom]

I don't follow MD anyway, I only play TCG

[swift mango]

Yeah, I haven't updated that deck much since 2022.

[cedar sorrel]

Omg u played pre support rb

[swift mango]

I added new ritual Beast cards into the deck just those off archetype staples I'm not following

[cedar sorrel]

Ah okays

[placid bloom]

pure is alright, you can FTK some older matchup like Infernoid or Yubel, everything else you actually need to play for grind game

[swift mango]

@mystic rain you made it
@worldly osprey yeah u lost

This match up would be funny. Hope aha make it.

I knew I would lose because shit Blanc p2 sooner or later but at least my Neon team winning.

[polar valley]

@tropic summit is any of them gud for pvp unit? or all trash?

[shell hazel]

they're free so I'll give you one guess 😛

[gritty ridge]

@quick lake did you win

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[tropic summit]

cope speaking, kilo could have usage, but realistically none of them

[polar valley]

nah dw i already take avistar for waifu investment

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mind-blown-shocked-2--k01KRBTXZBB2BW0XAHWVRME61DX

[tropic summit]

time to hit the tourneys, become famous, get hot asian chick, profit

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

no I didnt

[gritty ridge]

Yeah huh

You did and youre just reading wrong

[quick lake]

didnt I lose

prob lose next match as well

I lost dont gv me false hope

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge rename to BigBooli

[gritty ridge]

He won on paper

Hes just gotta live up to the paper

[tropic summit]

those look like mostly padded teams, you're missing core units like blanc, biscuit and noah
until you find those units, you're stuck with essentially glass cannons

glass cannons are weak to both indom and anti nuke, so that's why you probably can't hold

get your hands on the above or start building bay to cope until then

[swift mango]

I don't like modern Yu-Gi-Oh. Each duel ends in one turn.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disappointment-13--k01KRBVSSEA4WPBNCWJ31SG85XR

[swift mango]

What I like about Yu-Gi-Oh was the top deck after both sides exhausted their resources. Not one card puke out 90% of your deck and end the game right there.

[rancid heath]

What can I improve for SP Arena ?

[tropic summit]

neonOS is mid, the other 2 teams are decent

[quick lake]

Teams generally just slow

[quick lake]

oh oops

[tropic summit]

his problem is the weak-ass T1 tho

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

a vestiTU over neonOS would make it become at least passing grade

[rancid heath]

I was dreading Oling Vesti but I guess the day has come

[tropic summit]

strong unit overall in any setup

battery, splash, fire code, pseudo nuker, indommable, carry DPS, hit all 5

[rancid heath]

Oh yeah it's just I'm much more PVE inclined
But it seems we will see her in pvp for a long time so it might no be a bad invest

[tropic summit]

an idea you could consider ^

xmaiden/trina/emilia/lib on T1 all can work out if you need flexible units over lappyT

[rancid heath]

I'll try and see what works thx

[devout grotto]

How do I get the avatar frame by guessing all the pvp winners correctly
I keep losing

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

just guess correctly

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/skofqq-9--k01KRBXH5EGYXX8Y51DTKHMP4SE

[rich agate]

How are my PvP teams for SP Arena? I took some advice last time I was in there and I think I was able to make some good improvements. I still need to work on my OL rolls on nayuta and Ada but theyre both decent for now https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTY3MzI1OTA3NDM2NDgyMTY1MTE%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTY3MzI1OTA3NDM2NDgyMTY1MTE%3D

[tropic summit]

T1 give biscuit to moran noah team or that team gonna get SG'ed in p1 to death (noah in p1 unprotected)
T2 is misindomable on p5 via SRs, you want link in p1 and p5
T3 doesn't require biscuit, can move her T1, the logic is fine although consider a 3rd B3 to mitigate enemy rosannas

[devout grotto]

Worst advice ever, blocked

[rich agate]

Okay so ill shift T1 and 3 around. For T2 what does mis indominable mean? I'm guessing you're saying Snipers can put dmg on P5 and mess with blancs indom? How would I shift that around though? I've got Vigor on Ada to ensure SW gets the buff but moving her to P5 would ruin the strat right?

[tropic summit]

jackal p1 to prevent siren
link p5 to prevent misindom via SRs
indom in p2
flex in p3 or p4
blanc in p3 or p4 (blanc p3 is exposed to vestiTU combos)

and no, units linked will share the damage equally, meaning if you start higher hp than your indom target, you stay higher HP

at that point you can only be misindomd if enemy is running rosanna, which breaks link at 1RL

from 1RL to 2RL your units will no longer share equally dmg and can shift indom priority

but at that point your indom team probably played its role

[hollow lagoon]

Just bet your self and win it

[rich agate]

So with that in mind, Jackal, SW, Rumani, Blanc, Ada works then? Also T1 is fine being 2.5 RL then since the high pre burst dmg? Would I want to move the order around as well or would swapping out Laplace for biscuit be fine?

[worldly osprey]

i knew it was a loss. got countered too much. just gotta take it

[umbral belfry]

dammit

[arctic jewel]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[arctic jewel]

Like... what else is there to say? 🤣 🤣 🤣

[umbral belfry]

just that simple

[frank ingot]

how to guess incorrectly? I always tried cheering for the least votes, it doesn't work

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-gif-20689814

[hidden mortar]

just win and bet on yourself

[umbral belfry]

that's how i got my winning cheer frame

[hidden mortar]

its the only right way to do it

[shell hazel]

[marble saddle]

@hollow lagoon @tropic summit

Living at the edge

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

2.5RL teams are fine as long as you've nuke resistance B1 (moran, noise) but you need to account that you need to have a second B1 just in case they decide to siren it

as for the indom team is fine

biscuit needs to go with noah moran or noise bay or moran bay

[hollow lagoon]

maybe lucky crit here and therer

[marble saddle]

well guess ill fail then

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

looked like a crit, as long as you can consistently land a crit you'll be good

[marble saddle]

still waiting for the fail

[marble saddle]

im playing with fire

[hollow lagoon]

where's ur opponent ill tell him to sync up

[tropic summit]

kinda more wild that you're on 15.39% and there's no rounding

if that guy wakes up and decides "ima roll a few extra lines" it's RIP

[hollow lagoon]

or just sync up

[tropic summit]

good thing he never reads this chat so he'll never know

[hollow lagoon]

maybe we'll get him for the cult

[marble saddle]

well hes losing more point than me since theres like 100 points of difference

[shell hazel]

we do need more cultists tbf

[marble saddle]

im getting like 25 points and losing like 14

[hollow lagoon]

yeah ino's retiring

[shell hazel]

is he?

ino and spoon both?

[hollow lagoon]

after the raid

spoon is staying

[shell hazel]

I thought spoon was going? 😮

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit what exactly are my chances? 10% chance of winning and 90% chance of losing?

[hollow lagoon]

crit chance is 15% at base

[marble saddle]

3/3 wins so far

[marble saddle]

so i only have 18% crit rate huh

[hollow lagoon]

18.66

[tropic summit]

it could be also that the extra atk% with all multipliers is actually enough to bypass moran passive recovery threshold

in that case it would be consistent

[marble saddle]

well guess that extra 6% atk came in clutch if thats the case

[tropic summit]

3/3 seems consistent enough to discard crits if anything

[marble saddle]

i mean you tell me.

if i win again its prob consistent until he increases cp again

yeah its consistent. 4/4 wins

[rich agate]

Okay bay is my next investment then. Ill move rumani to T1 then and put Maiden in T2. Thank you for the help

[tropic summit]

wowie, you gottem then

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him--k01KRC121Y9P6G90R7JBK1HVJJR

[marble saddle]

ty for your help and trust in my PVP choices

[charred quail]

what does retiring even mean? i still see people that has retired in their name playing the game

[marble saddle]

not being active in certain game content

[hollow lagoon]

are you going to replace the sync 441

[marble saddle]

maybe just logging in to do dailies and then leaving

[hollow lagoon]

no he's moving somewhere else and taking break form gatcha

[charred quail]

im not in global

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel maybe we'll poach @marble saddle

[shell hazel]

just bribe him with Railtracer assistance

then we also go karanapping

[hollow lagoon]

i like how like half of the union are in 3% solo raid bracket or higher

[shell hazel]

shame we can't bribe kara as he's too good so he doesn't need rail help 🙁

[hollow lagoon]

just steal @arctic jewel after union raid

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-5-take-your-heart-hatofdoom-gif-14900387632807603468

[arctic jewel]

Joker ruined my enjoyment of Smash Bros xD

Then they added Steve

Then I said to myself "I'm too old for this shit"

[shell hazel]

from accounting?

[tropic summit]

the time to join us approaches @arctic jewel

[shell hazel]

I know who Joker is, who is Steve? 😄

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor we got isabel lewds you've never seen before

all from @shell hazel secret stash

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-isabel-wedding-dress-honeymoon-party-gif-3220600772501867177

pre-censored for your convenience

[arctic jewel]

That stupid Minecraft MC

[shell hazel]

oh lol I genuinely had no idea. My nephew loves Minecraft but I don't have the will to play it

[arctic jewel]

Minecraft in itself is fine

[tropic summit]

[arctic jewel]

I have a friend that works at Mojang, he said that they sometimes have Smash tournaments in the office, they hate their own character so they banned Steve

[tropic summit]

minecraft is fun for a few weeks, especially with friends

once you explore most of the fun stuff, it can get repetitive

unless you're really into building crazy things

[arctic jewel]

Yeah it's charming for a while, but the fun ends once you've explored most of the stuff and what the game provides

Ech, not my cup of tea

I prefer Mario Maker or even Little Big Planet

If you like sandbox games, then you'll probably like Minecraft

@hollow lagoon what are the requirements to join the union? I don't think I'm that great in PvE yet

[hollow lagoon]

right now its just sync 481+ lel

[arctic jewel]

And the damage?

[hollow lagoon]

idk like 20b ish in union raid total?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

with osanis release prob 22?

if u wanna join it be post the upcoming raid tho

[arctic jewel]

I got ~14b during Egovista, that's Solo Raid though...

[hollow lagoon]

wot ur sync again?

aint u in the 500s?

[arctic jewel]

Right now it's 524

[hollow lagoon]

do the 3minute wind union shooting range boss and ill have a rough estimate

[tropic summit]

a little bit of education from @hollow lagoon and @shell hazel and @arctic jewel gonna be doing 20b+

[oak smelt]

Is this a safe matchup? Need to minimize risk.
Can't attack T3 as i got gapped by CP

Main box

Helm.T | SWHA | Privaty.T | Vesti.TU | Liberalio | Scarlet
Red Hood | RRH | Bunny Soda | Noir | Mana | SBS | Neon.VE

Noah | Blanc | Biscuit | Centi | Trina | Bay | M.Anchor | Crown | Viper

Jackal | Rosanna | Anis.TT | Noise | Rumani | Moran | Soda | XSoline | Sakura | Zwei

[hollow lagoon]

t1 have advantage t2 is?????

[shell hazel]

we can and do help people for sure 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

they are likely actually 2.5rl so they are slower than u and u die??

[shell hazel]

should be able to see last SR data in blabla (we can't see that)

[hollow lagoon]

but they also burst neon?

[shell hazel]

click details here

[hollow lagoon]

him doing the wind union shooting range boss and i can extropolate to a extend

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-for-gif-19617607

Let the napping continue

[shell hazel]

day 2

click the little icon to see info

[arctic jewel]

I kinda have a rough idea, just incredibly difficult to fully commit due to taking PvP seriously

Or... I mean having a higher priority

Saying taking it seriously feels... arrogant

[shell hazel]

we're literally half pvp players 😄

[oak smelt]

Attempt to nuke before blanc triggers.
For T1, i am worried about Noah in p2

[glad meteor]

i only got 61b last raid

[shell hazel]

• Kara (soon)

another pvper

[tropic summit]

hmm the lib team is a bit peculiar but should work, the indom one is very weird, i'd rather just scar-jack that one, can punish for being 3RL and with drakeT feed

[mint kite]

Sometimes cope teams just work

[hollow lagoon]

why? they got not fire element splash on noah

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[oak smelt]

My Scarlet is unbuilt with zero OL

[tropic summit]

privT?

[oak smelt]

Yes, available

[tropic summit]

since you've biscuit available too you can reduce enemy pressure on p1 and p5

jackal blanc privT biscuit helmT (privT and helmT assumed linked)

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-anime-1--k01KRC3HCREJAJQ1Y3VMQX5DKCB

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

What’s a meta sp def without lap+/xmaiden

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Biscuit said nah. I’ll live

[tropic summit]

flex ada, drakeT and bsoda with w/e you want

[mint kite]

Secret blanc indom

[tropic summit]

here's with open slots

some more patterns

[glad meteor]

Sent

pleasure doing business

[oak smelt]

Works nicely, Thanks🙇‍♂️

[tropic summit]

the cost is just joining our union

you can pay in installement and join when you feel like

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

i can pay in other ways

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Just don't guess correctly

[versed mesa]

🍌

[frank ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-i-never-thought-about-that-silly-samuel-pim-charlie-smiling-friends-gif-12641476031601129572

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 are nice... but what's that T3

[gritty ridge]

Its peak

[tropic summit]

it's peak feeding an indom to 2RL

way to trivialize a noah team

[gritty ridge]

Top tier team

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

(Its 1.7rl)

[tropic summit]

with 1 MG and moran you'll turn 2RL into 1.7RL, kinda counter productive

remove that RRH and add something that doesn't feed

then you have a good set

i thought you built lappy btw @gritty ridge

where she at

[stone heart]

whats the meaning of lighting icon there ? just recently use deck

[gritty ridge]

I do, they asked for a setup with no xmaid/no t.lap

[tropic summit]

oh it was referring to that one gotcha

[gritty ridge]

It means you have enough chargespeed to hit a breakpoint

[tropic summit]

5%+CS vestiTU
8%CS+ emi, anisTT, helmT
11%CS+ clipRLs

don't use the icon if you don't match unit and CS% above

[stone heart]

oh noted thanks👍

[gritty ridge]

Oh btw rail, with 5% anis and 15% bisc/bay this is 1.6rl

[tropic summit]

fortunately it means the other 2 teams are shiet

[gritty ridge]

No

[tropic summit]

"No"...

anisTT biscuit and swha in the same team

you're one unit away from making it a rookie team

[cedar sorrel]

I got told lighting on tvesti is 11%. Is that not true?

[tropic summit]

who told you

[cedar sorrel]

Lemme see

[tropic summit]

yeah single B3 in indom team, easy

also nayuta gonna suck against noah 2RL

[gritty ridge]

Noise prevents rosa quite well actually

[tropic summit]

depends what you throw at vesti

[gritty ridge]

Better hope they have bisc on that noah

[tropic summit]

noise anisTT cindy helmt noah

[cedar sorrel]

[tropic summit]

no need for biscuito

[gritty ridge]

Thats a dead noah

[tropic summit]

that's probably out of context anyway

[tropic summit]

how is she dead? nayuta and centi on 55% atk C7?

[cedar sorrel]

He told me 5% cs equals about 8% towards the next RL

[gritty ridge]

This team is already very fast, with re-enter anis noah is having to tank 2 slaps minimum

[tropic summit]

there's no re enter

noise anisTT doesn't re enter, anisTT is just there to counter eventual CS% on enemy side

[gritty ridge]

Ive killed noah with this team pre noah

I just know it happens

[tropic summit]

pepega noah probably

noise B1 prevents nayuta lethal on noah

[cedar sorrel]

So this is just wrong and I can use lightning instead?

[tropic summit]

it's neither wrong or right, it's out of context

[cedar sorrel]

Whats the context

[tropic summit]

5%CS is enough for most teams to hit blanc/noah/bay B2 in time for enemy B3

[gritty ridge]

Actually not pepega noah

Stronger than my noah

[tropic summit]

it's not 2RL but 2.2RL

but it gets complicated so we just say 5%CS can enable 2RL

[gritty ridge]

Scary c6 noah with sr15

[cedar sorrel]

But lighting is 5% cs?

For tvesti

[tropic summit]

that's p1 noah... ofc she dies

noise anisTT cindy helmt noah puts noah in more than safe range

[lone sequoia]

you want at least 2 cs lines

[formal quiver]

this is also how i feel whenever i talk to bigboi

[lone sequoia]

that is the only answer

[gritty ridge]

2d get outta here

Go home nerd

[tropic summit]

is today the @gritty ridge bully day

[placid bloom]

pretty sure the deck value on Vesti is like 21% or something, it assumes 3rd rocket lands at 2RL timing

[formal quiver]

thats every day

[placid bloom]

which most people cannot get

[cedar sorrel]

So I have 2 lines that get 7.19% cs. I can use lightning in nikke deck?

[placid bloom]

in reality you are like 2.2-2.3RL

[lone sequoia]

no, that counts 3rd hit and is around 22% cs

[tropic summit]

ah yes, the 21% vestiTU that everyone in the 0.1% of the community has

[placid bloom]

for realistically achieveable cs

[tropic summit]

to cut it short, get 5%CS is enough

[lone sequoia]

well, i don't use those sites, but the last time i asked people said it was 3rd hit (and with my own test it was around 22%)

[tropic summit]

vestiTU lines:

x2 ammo
x2-x4atk%
x2-x4ele%
x2CS%

[cedar sorrel]

So then propodia was right and instead I can just add 7.8% feed towards the next RL?
93% 2rl with 5%cs tvesti is 2rl?

[tropic summit]

first time i see Blood being called propodia

[placid bloom]

it's close enough to 2RL that it shouldn't fail

if you really wanted accurate timing you can use top instead

[cedar sorrel]

Hmm okay

[tropic summit]

what's this 93% to 2RL with 5%CS

you mean 93% on a jackal team?

[placid bloom]

0 cs Vesti I assume

on Jackal

or uh

[lone sequoia]

i have to said that i don't know the value of vesti burst gen

[placid bloom]

93% with 0 cs without Jackal

just assuming 2nd rocket lands

[tropic summit]

if you're with 93% to 2RL with 5%CS+ on a jackal team then you need 7% feed, which is what most teams feed you, but it will be 2.2RL-ish

[cedar sorrel]

No I mean ur team is 2.5rl and 93% to 2rl. I got told with my cs vesti u can then add 7.8% "feed"

[placid bloom]

yeah that's good enough

it's not feed, it's just gen

[lone sequoia]

what is your team?

[placid bloom]

there is no feed unless it's Scar or Jackal

[tropic summit]

this is probably what he's talking about @lone sequoia

[lone sequoia]

or cindy... or centi... or bad position+taunt

[tropic summit]

even better this one has anisTT giving team wide 6% burst gen

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah I know

I was just showing off the 93% number

[gritty ridge]

T.lap if you land 3 rockets

[tropic summit]

that team has no feed though

also p1 may aswell die pre burst and there goes part of your burst gen

[lone sequoia]

label p3 (?)

[cedar sorrel]

That team was an example of reaching 93% 2rl

[tropic summit]

ok

[gritty ridge]

Idk abt label

[cedar sorrel]

He just told me that 5% cs tvesti will make u go from 93% 2rl to 2rl

[gritty ridge]

I just know vesti is the same gen as t.lap

[tropic summit]

pseudo 2RL*

[lone sequoia]

she is fat

[gritty ridge]

[cedar sorrel]

What is pseudo 2rl compared to 2rl?

[tropic summit]

kuwon said it earlier

[lone sequoia]

2.1~2.2 timing(?

[lone sequoia]

it should work against some b2 at 2RL if vesti...

[gritty ridge]

Pseudo 2rl means youll reliably b2 before they b3, but once they get more cs then it'll start being a problem

[cedar sorrel]

So in general cases it is practically 2rl but in sweatland it is an issue?

[gritty ridge]

Yes

I will say, having all your rl units to 15% cs is very nice

Im so speedy now

[lone sequoia]

loses indom

[tropic summit]

a classic

[cedar sorrel]

And tvesti is the only unit that can just elevate a team to pseudo 2rl with singular CS investments? I remember hearing that normally u need teamwide 11%CS for it to matter at all

[gritty ridge]

Thats why I run 2.5rl indom

[tropic summit]

emilia can do that above 25%CS

another silly accident of SU

[cedar sorrel]

Maybe helmt too cuz of insane gen?

[tropic summit]

and let's not get started with SWHA

[lone sequoia]

depends on her burst gen range, if you need her 2nd or 3rd hit on time

[gritty ridge]

Also imagine losing indom

[tropic summit]

yeah nice ada misindom

[cedar sorrel]

Im not sure I know what this means exactly

[gritty ridge]

It doesnt matter who they have indom, I b2 at their b3

[tropic summit]

and then you reload at the wrong timing so that 0.5 seconds are useless

[cedar sorrel]

I was just asking if tvesti is the only nikke that u can give solo CS investment and still elevate in RL. Apparently Emilia can too

[lone sequoia]

the same base as 11%cs for RLs just to set your base speed at x value, you can skip the team cs and just focus on your last hit if you only need 1 extra hit

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

[tropic summit]

not just emilia, anisTT and swha can too

[placid bloom]

Vesti is the only one that gets from fake 2RL to true 2RL off her own cs%, but she cannot get you sub 2RL by herself.

[gritty ridge]

Swha cs doesnt do anything

[cedar sorrel]

Swha isnt affected by CS right?

[placid bloom]

there are other chars that can get you sub 2RL like Helm

[tropic summit]

just go here https://nikke.top/ and have a blast @cedar sorrel

[stone heart]

if im reading right the deck i use will be like this then ?
since helmt only 4.92% vesti on 3.19% noah at 13%

[placid bloom]

Helm can get you to 1.5RL at 15% cs

[lone sequoia]

her charged shots are fixed

[placid bloom]

with the fastest team

[tropic summit]

that's correct

[placid bloom]

beyond that you need special circumstances that are not shot based

[cedar sorrel]

Scary nikke.top

[tropic summit]

useful tool when you really need to be picky about CS% and burst speeds

[lone sequoia]

the value of tt cs depends on helmT/emi because the only way to get faster with her is with one of those units in your team or with jackal+feed

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah it shows exact frames

[gritty ridge]

Just run this in rookie smh

[tropic summit]

where's your biscuit

[lone sequoia]

vesti wins

SG wins

[gritty ridge]

I think besti gets like, 1 rocket off

[placid bloom]

everything wins tbh

even normal 2RL Noah beats that

[lone sequoia]

i think my scar wins with S2 counters

[placid bloom]

[cedar sorrel]

How do u hit 1.5 rl how much do u need to be beyond 100% 2l to hit it?

[tropic summit]

has anyone tested emi 40%atk with a anisTT buff nukeroni tho

[lone sequoia]

check burst gen from some units

[gritty ridge]

You can only do it with specific units

[lone sequoia]

it will be helmT-emi or tt last hit+ enough burst gen

[placid bloom]

just 15% Helm with SWHA and Anis, nothing special

[gritty ridge]

Namely swha, t.helm, anis

[lone sequoia]

you can also just go 1RL with other comps

[cedar sorrel]

Can u hit it from jackal feed if ur team is already fast or does it require specific units

[placid bloom]

1RL requires too much set up that's not generic

1.5 is as fast as you can get independent of matchup

[tropic summit]

why stop at 1RL, let's go beyond

[lone sequoia]

jackal/scar comps can reach 1RL with feed, SG rosanna can reach 1RL, against cindy p2 you can get extra burst gen

[cedar sorrel]

Probably in 2 seasons theyll release another broken pvp unit that lets u do that

[gritty ridge]

I run this on occasion in spa/rookie attack

[placid bloom]

like technically you can reach .1RL with 4 lv1 SMG + Ros shooting into Scar but you have no B2 or B3 so that's not realistic

[tropic summit]

war crime

detain this man immediately

[cedar sorrel]

So is 153% 2rl = 1.5rl?

[gritty ridge]

Its funny watching 2rl noah moran get deleted

[placid bloom]

maybe even 0RL doable with 4 lv1 SG + Ros shooting into Scar

[tropic summit]

MF they haven't even reached B1

[placid bloom]

but again no B2 or B3 remaining on your team so speed don't matter

[lone sequoia]

i don't use nikke deck, not sure what the % means after 2RL

[placid bloom]

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah neither

I just know its wasted if ur above 100% but I guess if u push it far enough u reach 1.5rl

[lone sequoia]

kosmiu doc is all you need if you need something

[tropic summit]

so many war crimes today in this chat

good thing he didn't mention the 1.7RL privT

[lone sequoia]

remember to spread the iron scar agenda

don't let SU change her element to fire or water

[placid bloom]

actually I am sure a sync 1000 fighting a low sync can run 4 lv1 SG with Ros into enemy Scar and win at true 0RL speed

[cedar sorrel]

The fact theres decimal point rls that arent just .5 is tripping me up

[placid bloom]

the true fastest team

[cedar sorrel]

Like sure my team is 1.5748 rl

[gritty ridge]

You mean the b3 stop-inator

[tropic summit]

the "you're not gonna play this game"

[glacial haven]

Honestly.. This guy is becoming such a pain....

[tropic summit]

just sit there and watch getting killed

[gritty ridge]

My favorite CA team i use

[lone sequoia]

slow cindy--lib- tt+privaty wind that

[tropic summit]

real booly

[lone sequoia]

my casual union will lose like 5 accounts after the developer notes

one of our older players will quit

[gritty ridge]

It loses to indom, for now

[tropic summit]

what server were you on again?

[gritty ridge]

21% bisc/bay may change that

[lone sequoia]

SU: blablabla, we will fix things...later

[lone sequoia]

NA

[tropic summit]

oh righto with keripo

[tropic summit]

what triggered them the most from the dev notes?

[lone sequoia]

+21%cs RLs can help in p5 if you need, but again depends on team burst gen

[lone sequoia]

nothing... SU saying nothing

paid songs for the mini -game

[cedar sorrel]

I hope paid means gems but its definitely real money

[tropic summit]

oh ye that's true

[lone sequoia]

fix that we will not get

to me the CA change is just more people in less sp brackets, "more CA spots for SP" but less gems and probably less players in CA

[gritty ridge]

This team is 1.7/1.6 with 15% on bisc/bay

[lone sequoia]

nothing about surface, why Su just increase the amount of clicks in some events, for no reason you have to do 100+ pulls in the bag event and wait that bad animation

[gritty ridge]

I wanna check what it is with 21%

[lone sequoia]

the other site should help with that, you can check there

[gritty ridge]

Ik, I use top

Im gonna check later

[lone sequoia]

the short answer why some of my union member quit is because SU talk about little fix for content we don't have or can play and they don't fix the base ggame, academy-core system-liberation- nothing new for that

the systems are the same but we don't get content

i mean, we got the skip or AI, but why you still have to clear 1 time a week? the amount of clicks is more or around the same, they just forgot or added some new windows to avoid wasting time but is still the same

[tropic summit]

run these, T2 gonna cope, other 2 should be fine

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit You just deleted the teams, right?

[glacial haven]

Ah, ok.

[tropic summit]

ye had a leftover from previous sheet in T3

[cedar sorrel]

Whats the diff between 11cs and 15cs? Why are those 2 benchmarks to reach?

[tropic summit]

this is very true

and it's been one of the main points i've been insisting every single survey

they've 0 QoL in the most stupid things

they just don't listen to people or put effort at all in those things

and it's insane when you think about how stupidly big they've gotten

[lone sequoia]

the thing i hate the most as someone who read the story is the mc using my ign, i hate that dumb character

[tropic summit]

pff MC is the most stupid plot driving tool generic harem BS i've seen in any gacha

i can't relate or immerse in the story because he's literally built of plot armor

[lone sequoia]

people self insert but most of those don't read the story, a weird thing

[tropic summit]

we can't and won't possibly ever die, any risk/challenge we'll clear it and regardless we'll always date

every single nikke falls in love somehow

it's just all so fake

[lone sequoia]

that is why we need more events without the mc, but players hated siren event for that reason

[tropic summit]

tbf i still ship siren with levi, fk the MC

[tidal lichen]

siren event just sucked in general

[tropic summit]

leave siren alone and gtfo with all the other simps (to the MC)

[glacial haven]

No problem. Btw, I'm changing Emilia to Rumani, since I don't own her.

[lone sequoia]

it was good, i prefer that event over the one we got this year

[glacial haven]

(It's like a battery, right?)

[tropic summit]

laplaceT even better

but ye rumani will do

no wait rumani won't do, you need anisTT B1

slot laplaceT or drakeT or bsoda

or centi

[glacial haven]

I will put TLaPace then.

[tropic summit]

oke

give vesti tempering btw

[lone sequoia]

i mean, to me this idol event was the one that felt less like an anniversary

[tropic summit]

and helmt and swha tempering

[glacial haven]

Centi is already on T3, and I'm not confident enough on my TDrake yet.

[glacial haven]

Not Quantum?

[tropic summit]

noah vigor/any
moran tempering
biscuit vigor
helmt tempering
swha tempering

nayuta any
trina quantum
lib any
emi/laplaceT quantum/any
anisTT quantum

vestiTU tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor if need higher HP, else any
centi quantum
jackal quantum

[lone sequoia]

i'm not sure, but quantum affect normal attacks burst gen (?) and helmT-swha is from S1

probably S1 swha get a bit more

[glacial haven]

Screenshotting that.

Here are the units I'm running Quantum.

[tropic summit]

quantum is situational anyway

[glacial haven]

Neon is there because... Reasons...

[tropic summit]

you'll be taking it on/off depending on matchups

[glacial haven]

Ok. Cubes already changed. "Cross fingers"

[tropic summit]

record 🍿

[severe nimbus]

that moment when Rookie Arena refuses to reshuffle who you can attack...so you just bully the one person you can beat for all 5 attempts

[cedar sorrel]

I dont hit someone more than twice in rookie for good manners

Also to not make enemies LOL

[lone sequoia]

you can't attack people with 200 points difference and if you get the same accounts every reset is probably better to enter the rookie arena window again

[glacial haven]

Really a tough comp to beat it.

[severe nimbus]

Huh, didn't know that. I just kept refreshing and its the same 3 people. so I just said to heck with it and hit the only person I can win against lol

[tropic summit]

meh, biscuit things in T2

good job either way

[versed mesa]

I hit the highest player I know I can beat, I don't care if it means I have to hit them 5 times

[tropic summit]

won the matches we wanted in T1 and T3

[glacial haven]

I thank you. Once again.

[versed mesa]

Usually scores are close enough that he drops below someone else so I hit that player instead inbetween

[lone sequoia]

lib/nayuta, bad sinergy against biscuit skip

[tropic summit]

used most of the cards in T1 and T3 to guarantee win

T2 was just frankenstained

[lone sequoia]

at test round is always good

[tropic summit]

could've taken risks in the other teams to give T2 a chance but eh

[glacial haven]

I just hope I'm not turning into a nuisance to you.

[tropic summit]

no it's fine, your opponent is giving us good practice targets

[lone sequoia]

yeah, not worth it if you want the win, just focus on 2 teams

[versed mesa]

If anyone here is a nuisance to Rail, it me

[tropic summit]

[severe nimbus]

I swear, crits are so annoying in PvP. can win against a comp 99% of the time, but randomly out of nowhere will just lose.

[glacial haven]

Because every day his is changing his comps.

So... I'm getting really lost with those changes.

[lone sequoia]

crits are fun

[tropic summit]

that's how it's done actually, he's doing it right

[lone sequoia]

just don't use quick battle

[tidal lichen]

no.

[glacial haven]

Btw... If I'm not abusing your goodwill.... lmao

[tidal lichen]

im currently fishing for crit on black snake

[lone sequoia]

whiff was fun, did you play during that pvp era?

[tidal lichen]

and its making me wanna jump out of the nearest window.

[glacial haven]

Or maybe because he hates me.

[tropic summit]

lmao now those were funny times

[lone sequoia]

you could build teams to use whiff or evade enemy RL hits

[tropic summit]

having scarlet reload to force a whif with the right ammo

[lone sequoia]

it was just extra 2~3% cs in p1~p2 and the same cs value for p3~p4

or was 8%, i don't remember a lot for p3 skip

[versed mesa]

I realised yesterday btw, that my Scarlet is my only unit with 100%+ Ele

[north brook]

How much ammo vs cs would anis want if ive got 4 atk 4 ele in other slots

[lone sequoia]

the 7ammo RL reload to skip some hits or emi nuke

[glacial haven]

There's another good target practice.... (Been ages since I didn't attack him)

[tropic summit]

even emi nuke

[lone sequoia]

build for pve, cs only if you need or want, 2lines is fine

[cedar sorrel]

Is that like quadra black lines or something

[versed mesa]

Only 4 blue ones

[cedar sorrel]

[severe nimbus]

wait, quick battles affect things enough to make you randomly lose a battle you win 99% of the time?

[north brook]

Just got some charge dmg line 1s so can add bit extra

[tropic summit]

ah yes, the overly stacked anisTT team

at least the other 2 teams are shiet

[lone sequoia]

bugged since release, and it takes more time to load compared to normal battle, you only get the replay skip

[cedar sorrel]

A team made out of 5 SSS tiers, I will skip

[tropic summit]

show CP with these

[severe nimbus]

huh....shows how much I have been paying attention to pvp stuff. good to know lol.

[swift mango]

Supposed each tier of CS reduce you 2 frames. Moving an unit to p1-2 add 1 frame comparing to p3-4-5. It's only half a tier of charge speed up.

[glacial haven]

So... Overly stack Anis in one and the other fast Snow?

[glacial haven]

Oh, ok....

[swift mango]

So 5% in p1-2 still slower than 8% in p3-4-5

[lone sequoia]

the old whiff was weird because different RL had different reload/charged attack animation so extra time in some cases

[tropic summit]

his problem here is that he has blanc + anisTT + biscuit + helmT + vestiTU in the same team

that's literally free skip ticket for easy time on the other 2

[lone sequoia]

same with the target skip from p1 to p4

[small gale]

Star Anis' burst attack boost is comparable to Red Hood's right?

[swift mango]

It doesn't really matter now. Animation doesn't cause whiff.

Reload time is still different but whiff only happens at the start of reload. When you reload enemy would still hit you.

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven you probably guessed already but cubes are these:

noah tempering
anisTT quantum
lib tempering
biscuit vigor
helmT any

swha tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor if needed, else any
centi quantum
jackal quantum

[tropic summit]

gonna need padding on T2

who links if you use both vestiTU and SWHA in same team?

[lone sequoia]

talking about the whiff era, after the cover change it only happen during reload animation, rare to see a whiff between hits now

[tropic summit]

we need 1272k+CP

[tidal lichen]

WHY CANT I KILL IT RAIL

😭

[tropic summit]

or if trina/rumani give you more CP to hit 1272k+ is also fine @glacial haven

[glacial haven]

I think Vesti. Since she got mote ATK lines

[swift mango]

It's easily happen every CA, just look at Vesti team whiff after killing p1.

[tropic summit]

so close you can smell it

[lone sequoia]

whiff on dead unit doesn't count

[tropic summit]

you can run in shooting range

swha blanc rh vestiTU jackal

then check who is linked with RH and jackal

[swift mango]

Get your scarlet to 20 ammo and she whiff Keripo RL all the time.

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-chandler-joey-good-job-great-job-gif-14365146578827875022

[tidal lichen]

i hate crit fishing

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven or if you know laplaceT doesn't link over rh and swha you can also run her instead of centi

[lone sequoia]

i don't use scar p1

[swift mango]

That's your problem.

[hidden mortar]

@minor egret he's only hitting me once a day now. Genuinely no point to all the gems he wasted on day 1

[swift mango]

Anyway fone with mini game for 9 pulls.

[tropic summit]

no. pulling. remember your promess

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit SW and Vesti getting linked

[swift mango]

I'm not pulling but I collected pulls

[tropic summit]

oh that's nice

swha blanc vestiTU rh jackal

give vestiTU vigor

[tropic summit]

we prefer swha B3 here so you don't eat ele weakness swha in the face

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit

[scarlet adder]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-waynes-world-praising-gif-13349501

[tropic summit]

@swift mango

what was that i saw pictures of your belly naked

again

this time blood's topless

[glacial haven]

All good

[tropic summit]

if vigor on vestiTU and tempering on swha, you ready to go

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-9338065310670481220

[glacial haven]

I tested before if with vigor, would still getting linked. It is

[tropic summit]

link is based on atk%, vigor is for indom priority among linked units

[small gale]

follow up please

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-11251084230089380777

[tropic summit]

@placid bloom @swift mango @tidal lichen

[weak adder]

Guys what is the best 3 team for special arena in general so that I can save resources?

[lone sequoia]

no, tt is during full burst, rh after her b1

defender caster against attacker caster

[tropic summit]

you're not unfamiliar with HP anymore

[tidal lichen]

on pvp?

[small gale]

the ally attack boost

[tropic summit]

1. run the team in shooting range
2. check links
3. check HP among linked, if indom target has lowest HP then you're set

@glacial haven

[tidal lichen]

rh is a better buffer but anis does more dmg and gets gauge

[lone sequoia]

probably mirandaT is the onlyb1 buffer near rh value, tt is just better because she bring more things

[tidal lichen]

rh buff is still the biggest atk buff in the game

[lone sequoia]

liter is fine, but meh

[tidal lichen]

5s, also not caster

rh gives caster while being an attacker which is giant for units like cindy

[lone sequoia]

good for attacker nuke, not a lot for other classes compared to attacker caster

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven next time you can beat them, slot laplaceT instead of vestiTU if you're unable to hit HP requirement due to core difference

[glacial haven]

T2 more specifically?

[tropic summit]

or just run vestiTU in p1 and take the risk, may live anyway

[tropic summit]

ofc, your indom failed

[tidal lichen]

you can also run both btw, rh b1 doesnt make anis re-enter and you dont need to burst with anis to get her buffs

[swift mango]

No. Not even close. Anis buff Dmg and AtK during full burst only. She is kinda comparable to RH in PvE because of her dmg as well. In arena, she doesn't buff Nayuta or scarlet wipe for example.

Consider Defender 60% AtK of Atker, her 35% AtK buff is only 21% attacker AtK buff and RH is 78% attacker AtK buff.

Anis is off buff buffer though and also buff RL normal attack (projective explosion) but also a fb buff.

[tropic summit]

@glacial haven linked units:

@glacial haven lowest HP here was vestiTU

you find out the HP during shooting range pre burst

as it calculated vigor aswell

[glacial haven]

.... Vesti indeed has barely lower HP.

[tropic summit]

yeah, just so you know for next time

check links for laplaceT next time it might make it easier

e.g.

swha blanc rh laplaceT jackal

i expect laplaceT to have more CP than centi

[glacial haven]

Let's see right now.

[lone sequoia]

or tt+privaty next try (?

[tropic summit]

you need 1272k+CP so just a tad more than centi

[small gale]

skill 2 has a double party attack buff right?

■ Activates when entering Full Burst while in My Own Star status. Affects all allies.

ATK ▲ 35.01% of caster's ATK for 10 sec.

■ Activates when performing a Full Charge attack while in Everyone's Star status. Affects all allies.

Restores 1.26% of the caster's final max HP as HP.

■ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects self and all allies with lower final DEF than self.

Projectile Explosion Damage ▲ 92.03% for 10 sec.

■ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects all allies.

Attack Damage ▲ 34% for 10 sec.

[glacial haven]

Well. I just changed Vesti to TLaPlace. Now who is getting linked is SW and RH.

[tropic summit]

that's perfect

swha will be lower HP than RH since you already used that team b4

lappy will act like offburst battery

you can re-run that new team as long as you've that CP requirement

imo attack near reset and not now anyway

[lone sequoia]

you have values and uses, rh is better because the buff proc before the skills, compared to anis full burst proc

but tt, is just broken in general

[glacial haven]

For me, It just gone thru reset

And as CP wise, is everthing ok

[tropic summit]

ye well above threshold

you can move RH in p3 and lappy in p4

[small gale]

so only:
`■ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects all allies.

Attack Damage ▲ 34% for 10 sec.`

buffs Scarlett

[swift mango]

Yeah, AtK # AtK damage. I called AtK dmg "dmg buff" in my comment.

They are all full burst buff. So doesn't affect Nayuta and Scarlet and similar nuke.

There is also "projective explosion" buff. So she is stronger when buffer SW for example. Or Emi. She is designed to buff slow burster, or the new meta.

But not getting better than RH in her purpose.

[lone sequoia]

not her burst

let me check in-game, i only read the skills before banners

all anis party buff work during full burst, not before, anis dps buff work only for her

only the 6%burst gen work before

[small gale]

alright

[lone sequoia]

her burst only give HP%to the party, her S1 is 6% at the start of the battle and the dmg buff proc during full burst (after b3)

[glacial haven]

Well... Not wanting to sound weird, but... Call me Neon, because you're my master.

[tropic summit]

yep looks about right

[tropic summit]

make sure you learned from today with the HP thingie, it's gonna be important you master that to run solid indoms at first shot

[swift mango]

It's full burst buff, it doesn't buff scarlet wipe.

Learn the difference.

Instant wipe is before fb.
Atk # AtK dmg.

[cedar sorrel]

Guys I have helmT and moranT + enough mats for ttove drakeT and privaT

Who should my next treasure be? I was thinking maybe laplace? Or maybe miranda (I dont have her dupes yet) or Bay?

[tidal lichen]

anis doesnt buff snow's missiles

[lone sequoia]

pve? tove? pvp moranT-then privaty

[glacial haven]

WIll. do. Very good to know those knick-knacks.

[swift mango]

It does though. Some people checked.

[tropic summit]

privT is needed on a good chunk of pve
drakeT needs toveT, so in a sense expensive
mirandaT is used with some combos for SRs, i'd say start with privT

[tidal lichen]

without buff

with buff

on shooting range

[cedar sorrel]

I have already the 160 mats for privaT

Im just wondering which mats I should dispatch for now

[lone sequoia]

then you farm random boxes after you have enough mats for all the treasures

[swift mango]

How do you do both team with Anis but doesn't trigger that buff?.

[cedar sorrel]

I dont have enough mats for all the treasures.

I currently have helm moran privaty drake tove

[placid bloom]

random box is not that useful if you have a lot of unit that you can't convert material from

and you don't plan on building

cuz your chance of only getting new unit material next season is not good

[tidal lichen]

i use re-enter anis and dont burst her on one of the bursts so she doesnt buff her def

[glacial haven]

But again, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'm learning a lot here. (Even if i don't know how to properly build a comp to counter yet.) But again, I truly appreciate the time, effort and the goodwill to help me out.

[tropic summit]

here you go:

[swift mango]

Even if she doesn't buff her def SW is still lower def than her.

SW is freaking SR attacker with reduced base def

[tidal lichen]

i checked the buffs

[tropic summit]

stacking them together, anisTT indeed doesn't buff scarlet nuke

[tidal lichen]

you can see what buffs are active

[swift mango]

Idk because I see nothing.

[tropic summit]

meanwhile on a unit that can benefit from FB:

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nerd-catnerd--k01KRCB4DDEVG4D749C32M512NM

[tropic summit]

no problemo, thanks for sharing the vids

[teal ledge]

What you guys think about this one?

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc swha biscuit helmT

[glacial haven]

As I said before about the first guy who hates me. (The one who changes the teams everyday.)

[teal ledge]

I tried that and failed for some reason. Blanc was p1 tho

[tropic summit]

meh just rookie things, you can do your 5 wins and safely ignore

[tropic summit]

think blood came up with a consistent team but not sure, @swift mango did you?

[glacial haven]

But again. I'm the one who must be thankful. I just hope I'm not being a nuisance.

[lone sequoia]

label against tt comps

[glacial haven]

I know. But I think its funny.... lmao

[lone sequoia]

re-enter is enough time to win indom battles

[tropic summit]

so i might need to build label down the line eventually uh

[swift mango]

Swap SW and Helm if you use this team.

[nocturne orbit]

Hi, what teams could i make for BOTH ARENAS PLZ

[teal ledge]

Right one that worked by a hair

[swift mango]

Try?

Noah+Biscuit+Libby+RH+Helm

[queen smelt]

this is the first time im into arena stuff, i used to chill at ~20
is there anything wrong with my comps or any tip

[glad meteor]

Hmm. Maybe i need to jackal blanc vesti ada anis. Oh wait. Ada too low hp

[tropic summit]

a whale wouldn't have that issue

they'd just C7 ada

[glad meteor]

[lone sequoia]

just get more dupes

[glad meteor]

I’m not you guys

[lone sequoia]

we f2p, we poor

[tidal lichen]

god i wish i had one.

[teal ledge]

Helm dies pretty quick but it works. My red hood isn’t really that strong yet

[glad meteor]

Idk where to spend money. But not on nikke

[tidal lichen]

i could push deficits beyond belief

[tropic summit]

change up to this, slightly changes your team logic while keeping most units as is

• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc laplaceT/emilia (vigor on laplaceT/emilia to have vestiTU lowest HP)
• nayuta anisTT privT helmT laplaceT/emilia
• moran noah biscuit lib swha

[glad meteor]

I see your takina ada mald

[swift mango]

Yeah it's the expected result

[lone sequoia]

funny business?

[tidal lichen]

it could be even better.

[lone sequoia]

bro, stellarr blade rerun before re:zero rerun

[swift mango]

Oh wait, not exactly the expected result. Oh well whatever's

[glad meteor]

Time to spend it on 👯‍♀️

[glad meteor]

SU ip

[lone sequoia]

they really hate iron, rerun because they don't want to give us better iiron units, and mint will probably be a bad rouge

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit is this alright using as Def?:
T1: Nayuta/Anis/HelmT/Neon/Ada
T2: Jackal/VestiTU/XMaiden/Blanc/LaplaceT
T3: Noah/MoranT/SWHA/Label/Biscuit

The only Nikke I want to replace is Label, any suggestions?

[lone sequoia]

still, not good enough for overclock unless she powercreep bade

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• crown biscuit helmt drakeT rrh
• nayuta anisTT alice SBS jackal
• moran swha blanc alice neonOS

Rookie

• anisTT crown helmt biscuit swha

[tropic summit]

T1 is a bit odd, neon and ada give little pressure, you kinda want extra damage on p1-p2-p3 (emi, laplaceT, vestiTU or SGs to pressure p5)
T2 is fine
T3 is fine

for label, any clipSG or siren

[queen smelt]

just wanna ask would low limit break be a problem? if no then i would try to build em

[arctic jewel]

the only option I have is replacing Neon with DrakeT

[tropic summit]

hmm if anything vestiTU on low limit break is easier to indom, so that's useful
emi on low limit break is harder to use as flex in indom links, but you can use her as battery or in the nayuta team

[tropic summit]

if it's higher CP go for it

[arctic jewel]

No she isn't xD

[queen smelt]

ill take note, thanks

[nocturne orbit]

There's 2 "alice"

[tropic summit]

flex unit in T3, use any high CP unit instead

SBS/neonOS/bsoda

[small gale]

neo neon has a 15 sec debuff?

■ Activates when attacked while not in Healthy Body status. Affects self.

Invulnerable for 3 sec. Activates 5 time(s) per battle.

Gains debuff immunity to ∞ debuffs for 3 sec. Activates 5 time(s) per battle.

Healthy Body: Potency of HP restored ▲ 10.26% for 20 sec.

[tropic summit]

well still better burst gen, passive buffing and pressure

slot drakeT regardless if she's not nuking your CP

[lone sequoia]

3 sec immunity after she get hit, 20sec cdr

[small gale]

I see

[lone sequoia]

you can probably stun neon if the first hit can stun

[small gale]

wow this is complex

[tropic summit]

you won't be using neonOS often anyway, she's average/mid, needs a lot of teammates to make up for her lackings

[teal ledge]

Can I replace RH with Laplace?

[tropic summit]

she's a pve unit for the most part

[lone sequoia]

dmg/debuff immunity after the first hit for 3 sec, can proc again when you get hit after your 20 sec buff end (the healing boost effect)

[small gale]

is Moran as tough if she doesn't burst?

[tropic summit]

regular unit if she doesn't burst, just with extra HP bars

[lone sequoia]

depends on enemy atk values, moran can stack DEF a lot depending on the amount of HP she lose, her skill 2 allow her get extra HP and stacks for her S1 (HP-DEF), her dmg reduction burst is really good, no reason to not use her

[arctic jewel]

... I really need PrivatyT and Nero to make something new...

[tropic summit]

hmm nero i dunno, too easy to deal with (liberalio), privT can be interesting

[lone sequoia]

nero is fine, but too expensive and her team can do the same as other teams without the high amount of resources they need

you can just win with the new units

[arctic jewel]

even with MoranT, Anis, Helm, and Biscuit?

[tropic summit]

ye you can deny her DR with blanc and lib

[lone sequoia]

blanc counter DR comp

[arctic jewel]

rip

[tropic summit]

a not so well invested nero can also still lose to vestiTU

[lone sequoia]

you can swap main b3 and should be still the same, unless your moran is a monster, but too expensive

[tropic summit]

and ofc to scarlet s2

privT instead is a cheaper and much more effective option, both on def and atk

[lone sequoia]

you can also just nuke before moran burst (wipe the team) or use cindy/lib+RH

even TT (dps) with high elemental dmg can kill helmT if you plan to use her in DR

[haughty mortar]

How do I incorporate bay into my lineups?

[arctic jewel]

I think you suggested a few example teams a few days ago, but if I can't find them, I'll ask again

[haughty mortar]

And does she need fi to function?

[lone sequoia]

p5 with high cs for extra healing, b2 as noah replacement or just biscuit for a stall comp

[arctic jewel]

my Privaty needs to be built regardlesss

[lone sequoia]

fi?

[haughty mortar]

Favorite item

[forest zodiac]

a bit confused what should I do here? swap t2 and t3 and send it?

[lone sequoia]

it doesn't change much unless you want to use her in DR (healing effect) the main issue her treasure fix is the need of dupes, bay dupes in a team allow them to take more dmg (weaker), the healing effect allow the party to just keep more hp than bay at the moment she die

[tropic summit]

meh a few patterns, you can run her with so many setups

[small gale]

does tt anis buff snow white HA burst?

[arctic jewel]

you're such a hardworker and a sweetie, you know that right?

[lone sequoia]

you probably want more dupes in all 5 units just to tank until bay die and still have HP in the important units

because her shared dmg doesn't allow overkill from enemy hit, like 30m hit against 12m HP unit, the hit should lose 18m, but with bay your team take those 18m

[glad meteor]

Sasuga neon indom