#pvp-arena
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That thing is why I rarely if ever use Rookie even for testing attack teams
this always hapens
Well, I'm glad I came to talk to you guys. I'll learn to breathe more and let this go... its not worth my time.
Thanks everyone.
I had one guy like that, who literally stalked me for over a year
I wouldn't hit him, he would still dog on me. and then one day, I cp gapped him due to better outpost
and he literally quit the game after that. so his whole point of existing in nikke was to troll me in rooki arena
some peoplea re just built different
SPA is the only arena mode that actually matters for rewards
Wow... now thats a story 😄
so if you doing good in SPA carry on
I feel like that ragehitting thing is more of a newer player problem. I'm a day 1 vet and I don't think I've ever seen anyone use more than their free tickets in Rookie
yeah, he was psycho. he would put no defense, so that when he hit me 5 times, then he would get hit down by everyone else, so I couldnt hit him back
CP wise, I am slowly gaining on him too. One day he'll just stop biting
Even in SPA, once you get to Challenger, there's almost no difference in resource gain
Well except myself when I was dumb and thought rookie rewards were worth more than they actually were 
But even then I never did it to target any specific players
I can't hit enough people in rookie at season end to spread my attacks out so I give a win to topyro then take one back 
I believe this stalker here has joined somewhere during the same time as I arrived (some 6 months ago).
i do that too, I hit back the same amount of times they hit me
I don't know how you people behave in Rookie, but I have a personal code of honor, sort like an etiquette, to attack a person just once per day.
But of course, that clearly do not apply to everyone
that is what I usually do as well but when you gap people enough your options get limited
Groups are made based on the account creation date so you will always be with people who started around the same time.
I can't see more than like 3 people now to attack, this is always like this last day or two
I just attack whoever gives me the most points
I literally check my "records" to see if player A was attacked within 24 hours, or player B was attacked 48 hours ago. That may be silly of me, but I check every single time
People dont just int all their rookie hits 
only topyro near me for cp, rest I put into deficit
This is what I do too and seems like most others in my bracket as well.
For example, I know there is one guy in top5 (rookie) that I can win against, but still, I won't snipe him down to rank 40 just because I know I can
But thats just me.
I actually got 1 hit left but I won't use it atm as it means attacking people more than once 😛
Aim for someone lower than you then 🙂
I just pick a time of day and use all my 5 tickets at once
no need to min/max rookie mau, rewards for ranks are nearly the exact same, you could be whole year rank 10-12 it wouldn't make a difference being rank 1 for a year
do your 5 wins daily, that's all that matters
if there's someone stalking you, let them accrue points then you hit back on the last 2 days, when you beating them will give you back a ton of points instead if you're lower rank
it's like I mentioned I can only see 3 people now
when you +200 points above people you can't see them anymore I think
Tbf its an issue when people who aren't in deficit have too many points and you have to win to find them again 
i have potentially nikkes that i have but not invested that are : scar, label, noise, rosanna
would one of them change things here a lot?
I'll save that graph, print it and glue it on the wall of my bedroom, hahahahaha. A reminded not to waste my energy with this. Thanks Rail.
noise and scar could be useful, but you need noah or bay here
Rail will also provide some wisdom for SPA as well
Btw what do you mean you can only see 3 people? I can roll and see people as low as rank 10 or less even though I'm in top 3
aa wait i have bay 😄

ye no point getting an headache dealing with rookie, even more so now with anisTT teams
the game mode became a circus
let me demonstrate
label doesn't make scar a cakewalk?
Are they actually that much rng or is it more specific cases of investments/deficit
I believe he means he cannot see the ranks below because he is in top 3. It happens the same way in Challenger brackets for SP Arena
I can attack players in Rookie that are some 10 levels below me, max
it's the point gap that matters not ranks
I am more than 200 points above rank 5 so I can't see them, I can only see 2,3,4
either label or bay could give you a winning chance against their scar glass cannon, i suggest you build bay instead
here's bay version, you can run her on 2OL and 4/4/4
Why just 2OLs?
has to be treasure?
Useful info right there. I did not know about the specifics. Thanks
no, chest and legs and 4/4/4 R15-SR5 is enough
cuz he's on budget
i am just a cheapskate tbh 😄
Oh 200 is the hard cap, the people below top 3 fight against each other so they are still in range for me
I am unsure if 200 is a hard cap at lower ranks, but for me late season it seems it is
if I'm rank 1 and I gap people 200+ I can never see them
so maybe range for all ranks is +- 200
TO me as well. I can spot the top 1 player every day, but that whale is 50000000k CP points ahead of anyone else. Hahaha...
don't forget to use those bones
I actually hit the lowest people I can see earlier in the season because inevitably I'm hitting the same higher rank people always later 😄
saving for nikke 2 😄
put blue nikke and you'll easily lose points 
true that
all these silly whales forget people would attack them if they dropped their CP a bit... 
unless it's weird zanta flex sac
I'm Rank 2 with 1452, rank 15 with 1268 is the lowest I could see after some refreshing repeats. Rank 16 is at 1250 so that would be 202 points below me
Oh. Question:
After a season ends, is it normal for the game to bring new players from other servers into your bracket? A fresh batch of people to fight against? This happened last month. I used to be on top 5, but nowadays its tiresome to make it to top 15
there are several servers around your account creation date
people can be reshuffled among those
shuffles every 3 months~
so usually around when new story chapters come out
Right, that makes sense. I did spend a good ammount of time on top. But then, all of a sudden, a new batch of skilled players flooded in, and I was pushed downstairs overnight. 🙂
shuffle can occur again, if you're NA the shuffles don't move as much maybe smaller pool of players
Well no wonder the Rank 1 only hits me sometimes. I am the only one in range 
180 orange melts so fast, i remember having like 350 orange ones :[
to some degree you can just spam blue/purples though
yep it can be a very real problem lmao
yeahh but they will fail almost ceratinly xD
If you have a ton of each purple is actually the optimal one to use atleast when starting at 0, 5 or 10
another one bites the dust 
what else you gonna do with em?
level to SR 10 xD
I can't even begin to comprehend all that.... O.o
as long as you keep back enough blues to R-15 > SR-5 some new dolls, you can essentially waste the excess ones
i was bored xD
Colorful!
evil episode is now over
gomen @hollow lagoon @tropic summit
@shell hazel for tower stages anisTT powercrept my vestiTU 
basicly on left you have what SR level up it is and % chance for each color, and on top you have different combionations and in the middle chance of success. I could time * 100 evything but yeah everything could be time 100 to see % chance
you mean Rapi?
I have 44 Nikkes with SR15/Treasure 
oh shit where is Rapi?!
I can't believe they are still rewarding 100 gems to players who go over tower level 1000. Cheapskates! XD
aint nobody need RRH when the whole screen gets wiped by those 3 
must admit I did remove rapi sometimes, she's still great but vesti just slaps raptures always
you need something blew up in pieces, fast and no matter where it is, vestiTU SWHA and anisTT got you
I'm not sure if I've removed Rapi for any campaign or tribe tower stage since she was added. Very, very few bosses with different elemental weakness
Same
Actually a few bosses on the way to 1450 in Tribe tower benefitted more from elemental teams
tragic
10 synchro to go 
fer wat
for going to the lasto bossu

since you're at altruia, you probably should be tower 1000+
easily I think just I liked 888 😄
A lot of stages are a breeze even with seemingly high deficits
now i'm stuck at 1320
I won't push em too hard though close to 581 I'd push a bit more then

i will defeat u one day

Kinda
The swha to helm swap let me win once against the rookie rival, but then he won twice and copied the team for his own defense 
Deficit doesn't work the same way in Tower as it does in campaign
There's no penalty for being in deficit

Bro probably won the mirror match
Yeah, he is like 200k-250k cp higher stat diff
Makes sense but now its our time to fight him back
Rosy pve? 
Nope, just letting the pvp unit shine in pve
@hollow lagoon what was the trick with this thing to prevent 1 dmg, and don't tell me it's true damage
i did it wit chisato+ laplace
Ooh, this was tricky. I did it with RH B1 buff
it's the shoulders innit?
oh for the love of... 
crystal armour
how you break those, pierce?
one shot
prob neon
It's like slippers on MC
yeah
stop telling me to use nikke i don't have built 
need to cover and use SR or so

or vesti from cover also works
if anyone hits them and doesn't kill the shoulders they go immune
Its just got MC crystals, so play it like MC or cheese it
Yeah, it's annoying but not too bad, the damage requirement isn't nearly as bad as full def MC first slipper

the icons above the boss hp bar tell you if the shoulders are up
vesti and ada for @tropic summit i guesss
RAIL I DON'T GET WHAT IS HAPPENING... I had an exact mirror match earlier... and lost. I was higher cp too. Once I did this... i won.. barely.
1 per shoulder. If you don't kill another icon shows up and ticks down (when it goes it's not immune anymore)
there's no ada
CP is sh*t with her
vesti is legit though
cover everyone and vesti nuke, it can usually kill both shoulders
loooooks fun
her burst I mean
it does nothing, they're still up
it's these icons btw
laplace and vesti then
shield icon = 1 per shoulder
- icon = 1 per shoulder, if + icon is there you can't kill them
it ticks down and then the shoulders are killable again
I actually had to google the tactics since when he has been in campaign even on hard he just died on full auto
Didn't even know about the shoulder immunity
Tribe tower only time I had to beat him "legit"
you're probably triggering the shoulder immunity before vesti can nuke
gonna cover everyone, get burst with helmt and moran mmast vesti let's see
yeah, her nuke fires from cover so you can tell if it worked or not
ok hippo strat works 
one shoulder comes back, then the other btw, so you gotta prep to kill them when both return, you'll see what I mean
I imagine SWHA is also good here
cover else and full charge should kill them too
Whale in my bracket got Noah before me, this is so beyond cooked
I found it mostly worked, sometimes failed but I was on a deficit
can you destroy those thingies only when both are up?
like im in that spot where credits is now the bottleneck and not cd
no but auto attacks may make it immune if only 1 is up
which is what seems to have happened
tbh you can just wait out the timer dropping a bit
then vesti or SWHA nuke them with rest in cover when they're not immune anymore
it lasts only a few secs the immunity
you still do some damage with 1 shoulder up
i see 
i can work with this, thanks hippo
u only get that thing in tower
yeah was a pain lmao
and then u dont get no more after untill tower
I used it to showcase anis's peak damage
that's a lot of damage there
i will defeat u one day
but it is not this day

netanyahu impressed
Use Neo Neon
no need, just need moran to stop eating lasers 
Use anis with re enter moran
I had to use this to clear Halo over 40%, was surprisingly a lot more bulkier than I would have thought
Neo Neon is the future
@shell hazel thanks hippo
alternating between vestiTU B3 and SWHA B3 was enough to break the shields
I got Clickbait stuck in my head
listen to real music instead
And now I can't sleep
What would this real music be?
That's not Darude - Sandstorm
Thanks to these gifs now I imagine everyone in this channel is Christian Bale in American Psycho and I believe it
Because people here have good taste in movies
oh if ur trynna sleep id recommend listening to ambient
or even drone
Although the most common one is Aragorn gifs
Thrash Metal it is 🤟
Let's see... Slayer - Raining Blood
id thrash u for that buut same time i lowk enjoy post rock and experimental
even doom metal just cuz
even if im trying to sleep
For me it's NuMetal and Punk, like Hawthorn Heights - This is who we are and ofc Linkin Park (could never stop)

Wheel
When lv15?


How do I beat these teams? The second team I can beat but the third one is hard because the SWHA stays alive.
what would the five units look like?
Stall team t.t.anis, blanc, cindy, biscuit, mihara/s.anis
Scarlet, blanc, helmT, jackal, w.maiden
is that for team 2 and 3?
Both
so either would work?
Ye
ok
Do u have rossanna?
yeah but not invested
Would have been the easiest solution for t3
Consider investing. She can wipe out +60lvl above
ok I will
Just need 40+ atk OL lines and a few ele for water units. If you even pair her with helmT or s.anis her final burst kills every attacker
run these, you're on the left
Ok thanks, I will try this if I lose
multiply enemy team CP for 0.846 and check it against your team, if your team is above that value you can run it (do it for both teams), else don't bother
Alright
Both of the teams are above the value and I won. Thanks.
2026 and bro still using anis SR 
You have nitro, you can send it yourself
what nitro 
You always have nitro
@shell hazel i think i woke up the whole SPA server, everyone is trying to hunt me down, the afk bro void is currently rank 6
this is insane
i refilled too much today
everyone is refilling, it tilts me a bit xd
Any suggestion to beat this guy? My liberalio team loses against moran she literally kills all of my attackers after noah shield ends
Youre running non sustained dps into moran ar deficit
T1
- vesti blanc rh centi jackal
T3 - anisTT noah privT biscuit helmT
he's running a neonOS p1 with a rosanna... how to anti-sacc himself
needless to say but you won't win on deficit
pad T1 to get out of deficit or run the biscuit version of it
then deal with deficit on T3 with a padded team, they're 4RL
Pls @ me
Oh no my picture didnt upload
Help building teams for both arenas and invest heavily into those nikkes
build blanc and noah then ask again
Build a team with them or invest?
@gritty ridge Thanks I've been playing on and off but I really dont get pvp like at all
4/4/4 R15-SR5, 4OL
can non treasure bay and trina replace anis and leona?
@tropic summit I understand the 4/4/4 part I dont understand the other sorry
Skill doll equipment
@stone heart thank you
With Trina, she only buffs certain characters at the moment: Moran and Scarlet
If you don’t have either on a team, don’t use Trina
If you get her, treasure her immediately
She is invaluable for pvp and pve
yee so ive heard, atm im just doin helm tho
luckily solo museum has helm treasure selectors so i can just convert them after
Need some help countering this team, Noah is just getting instant burst before Siren can stun
Also jill
Put siren in p2
If she cant stun in p2 then she cant stun that team at all
Indom it
In that case just use indom vesti or smth
She can stun but noah's already bursted before it happens
Ya well we call that fail stun
Blanc ver slow Cindy or indom
Or try ur luck with Rosa poke
That means they have enough cs% to keep Noah bursting before b2
You could also use something like absolute if you have it
Don't have absolute built unfortunately and I tried jackal vestitu blanc centi swha and it wasn't enough either
We have the same cp so its not a deficit
wait yoyo is real


how about boosted swha
swha blanc redhood centi jack
put vigor on redhood
Are jackal teams always with blanc indom or can u use jackal differently
jack scar
most of the time they are but can be witrh scar as well
ITS calculated damage for guarantee indom
I just wanted to change my def up a bit so Im doing aniss blanc biscuit now but didnt know where to run jackal then anymore
u could play around with linking jackal with supports
but other defenders is probably even harder to do
so u get the benefit of dmg share and feed but getting a better b1 burst
what b1 burst u wanna play with idk
just dont run x2 atk ez 
I dont knoww
Huh...
Someones hitting u lol
moran linked?
Bruh...
There's actually no one hitting me. Just some Server Error stuff.
Weird
but are you top 1?
No

Free me from my stress
never

soon gonna be top 6
Damn, so many more matches for me to 5-0
oh my lord 
Surface dead 
Long dead 
for me to buy ClickBait

so i feel like it would be top 8 now
so double the participants in CA
good
How come the story just begin to reach surface
No my whales will hate it
So double the ca brackets?
Theyd never be able to beat me again
thats my guess
Beta is ending next season so they getting ready for the real thing
I malded enough with the full perfect casuals and 5 normals. I'm good. Whatever they give out for free I'll play those, but I'm not wasting money on songs that I know will make me 
also they gonna gift the eve and raven skins
I'm hoping its more like we'll just have bigger groups now, so groups of 8+ instead of 4, and they take the top 2 per group into the KO stages
and ofc take more than top 4 per Sp bracket
I just hope they resolve the RNG match fr
they wont...idk if they even can
top 10 and it's the same number of pools, get ready to lose from tie-breakers 
surely not
Stop coping 
feels like they’ll mess it up tbh
They could take top 30 and I still wouldn't get out of advance 
if they do i'm coming back to this comment and asking for mods to ban u
They better gift me my damn money back then
Hey I can finally be left alone and not be hit in SP with increased CA cap 
its pretty barebones as is, even if all they do is make it more accessible without changing anything else it'll be an improvement
add rng to rng, when battle start they shuffle your decks fuiyoh very gud

Just more brackets is the easiest solution i think
Now if they increase the 3k gems to whatever they extend the CA qualifiers that please, give more gems to others and make it less taxing on my mental health to go for 3k longterm 
no
as for the RNG fights, I really dont know how they can fix that. I thought about how CA would be if they allowed you to change teams after every fight. Its still effectively RNG but it would add a layer of mindgame into the mix
Itd end up just being shuffling your team order every round
i would like to not wait a whole day just to see CA results personally 
😭 ok not that lmao

CA everyday 
John shiftup knows who wins as soon as teams are formed
qualification is being in challenger tier by the end of the day 



if they expand slots to take all challenger players i think that'll shake spA up quite a bit though. Alot of brackets top 4 is just synch gapping whales, but c5 - 10 is reachable for alot of people
Shuffle positioning. Trust 
cmere rosy
Time to burst centi


Pure entertainmentooooo
Whel of global vs Whel of NA
bro we've been in the same bracket for months and havent met each other 
unit positioning
game knows its not the time yet
pleb v rosy CA 30 final 
now we are with Kara

Unless either Mint or Prika is super meta for something I'm skipping both
they did say "latter half of the year" though so...maybe after august
Beta season 2.0 begins 

you need to trust the process
after S30 we gonna take a break from CA
till they introduce the real thing

a couple weeks off from worrying about this dude throwing 800 gems a day at me
very nice
round robin fight. So 5v5 resulting in 25 matches
That’s what im coping, but prob wont happen
yeah
each individual team fights every opponent team once?
yeah, I would hope so
Keripo mentioned that this would be good too
But dont gv shiftup enough credit to do it 
but john SU is a small indie company, they wouldn't have the resources to store that many replays (that you wouldnt be able to watch anyway)
fr
ser 5 battles we already need to wait a day, 25 battles we gonna wait a month 

ngl though I love that idea
maybe if we spam them with it enough on feedback forms they'll do it?
oh maybe even change it from 5 teams to 3, and do 9 fights total
seems a bit more manageable
Nah they want whales to spend on multiple nikkes for 5 teams
|| change spA to need 5 teams then if they expand CA slots to take all of cahllenger tier ||
and you need 5 wins to win
its ok cp gap removed

🐋
now i can forget pve for real
C2 in my bracket at ziz still and did not finish normal campaign
and people said i was bricked
Just spend 💳 to offset

Why did you lose too
unlucky 
1-4
Same as me
pvp is dead dead, more people in the same bracket, you will have to fight against whales from more sp brackets for the "new CA spots"
You’d be surprised at what some people leave on the table
I got one guy who is a pita but luckily he is not as powered up as he should be, because he only reached Hard Stage 25
He left all those resources on the table, and his cd/hr is prolly pitiful compared to most others in my sp.a
Oh wow merry come to our ca group
I’m at Hard 42 Boss

how many CA brackets are in SEA?
Idk
@swift mango know it
Strong players keep coming, but i never get demoted to lower group
its CA season 69 and Im still waiting rakuen to win
I'll become top 1 from below
mint prika pvp duo 
Diamond rank gonna bully ch8-10
What's the purpose of raising level then
your top10 will fight the top10 from other 2 brackets in the same new bracket
I'm gonna demand a refund 100k gems used for wipeout if they make the cp gap disappear in spA 
that will kill the whale power
EoS first day of the patch
This is a minimum what i did for 2 years
Lewd
more gems for me, si
no they gonna send you to keripo bracket 
Nah, I just saw the name before because they was showed in Section in early CA.
It's CA 30 and I'm still waiting for you to win another time.

They can keep the gems we get sandbox

No they will send you 
Meh I have zero gem left, no more pulling
29, 30 is next season
they gonna bring mint and prika this month
you quit CA 31?
I'm not pull anything for a year f them
Not until you get another CA

i spent 140 on neo neon banner and only ssr was signal, T.T.Anis took 460 pulls . now im kinda broke in gems but they bringing more loved units
july also with new treasures
nero and quiry, please and thanks
hmm if you look at that burst animation, that looks like arcana but black hair 
Arcana! 
good thing I havent do another pulls to mlb thanos 
No
I am below average
f2p
honest
hard working
Nikke scrub



It took me 170 pulls for a neon dupe so I made it 180.
460 pulls for a single copy?
Can try this, this is assuming vesti has at minimum 5% cs on her overloads
No one said anything about cp advantage removal. They nust add more CA slot
I'm gapping people but if they removed it then it's fine.
But they won't

can anyone help update my team? my second team has low CP. Any adjustments I can make to make better teams? roster is sorted by power level
We are also carefully listening to your feedback on gameplay content. In the latter half of this year, we will increase the number of participants in the Champion Arena League and gradually implement improvements to the Arena
They finally listening to my feedback
Praise be the pvp resident 
now lets just hope they are good changes
Whats on your wishlist
I am only hoping for reduction in stat penalties for CP deficit
Oo, top 10 is nice
Nice I'll read it
I'm sure i read it when you made it but i dont remember anything from it lmao
Half of my suggestions were implemented though tbf
CA is level sync locked and 5 teams
And they did fix rocket whiffing and a bunch of other bugs before releasing CA
Just tried it now and it won twice, thank you king
Could try this but if I had to guess its probably also going to just tank your cp, not sure how your bracket is right now and if you need cp padding or not.
I'm losing at 32 again 
Holy crap I didn’t think someone would actually make a team for me. Thank you 
I was also wondering if I could get one for the arena
Increasing from 4 to 5. 
Not fine at all
They should refund all my gems used for wipeout if they want to remove it
biscuit-less noah, swha blanc rh centi jackal
Is it okay if I have all my RL units with charge speed cube and non RL using quantum? Or should I be using others too
Champions arena?
Because the teams I made for you were for special arena
Well hello there rail
drill-chan 
rail inthought you quit
You only need cs or quantum cubes on units to hit certain CS requirements and or burst generation requirements with quantum
Recently or back when he wasn't around for a while
yo @tropic summit
if 2 players in rookie arena, both running moran-blanc- swha-thelm-jackal, but last remaining for both teams are moran for 1 and swha other, with moran beating the swha, what are the possible causes?
because if you're thinking back when he wasn't around for like a whole month, he got injured so he wasn't hanging out in discord
Thanks for that, is there a site I can use to calc what I need to?
Cheers
Good morning 
I dont remember, just that he was in pain
oh well i was just wondering where did he go off too so that's good enough for me
Y'all made it official

it means one moran is more invested than the other, or one of the two SWHA has less attack than the other or either side is forcing a moran indom over a swha indom
would need to see the match to tell you more, but it's probably one or more of the above
he's not afk anymore got unbanned
but he is 6th 
thanks my swha atk need some rerolling (only 1 blue atk line) ,. didnt reroll any on moran tho. Would starnis-blanc-thelm-biscuit-swha work against this comp?
assuming:
- moran blanc swha helmt jackal
it leaves blanc very vulnerable in p2, an easy way to deal with that is focusing damage on p2 or using units that melt blanc, e.g:
- scarlet vestiTU emilia/laplaceT trina jackal
scarlet: s2 melts any feeding weapon class (all classes minus RL and SR)
vestiTU: fire code melts wind, additionally vestiTU is one of the hardest hitters pre burst
emilia/laplaceT: general high damage output before burst
trina and jackal: amplify scarlet
I hope we know what the next round of treasures are soon so I can buy 3 copies of moran lol
Assuming I wont need any copies of the new treasure units
but pvp vestac requires a certain charge speed investment to work well right
5%CS
20-40atk%
20-60% elec
x2 ammo (indom variant)
even a basic vestiTU with 5%CS, 10-20%atk and 20-40%ele would murder wind codes
Unless you have a core 7 blanc with SR 15 and temp 15 cube like me where my blanc can ride the lighting in p2 
rip just realised my vestac has no atk lines lmao, 56% ele tho surprised how much she cooked on hard mode with that
Would moran-blanc-vestac-swha-jackal work instead? Don't have emilia and laplaceT
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTU1NTk0MjczMjY3Nzc0MjMwODg%3D&type=combat&openid=MjkwODAtMTU1NTk0MjczMjY3Nzc0MjMwODg%3D
👀
run this:
- anisTT blanc cindy biscuit midhara
if the above doesn't work for w/e reason you can run
- nayuta anisTT helmt swha trina
Anis's crazy damage output has me recooking teams
Using interesting stuff like Milk+
ikr, been testing anisTT blanc vestiTU helm biscuit in rookie and so far its beating all the other anis teams and moran teams
Only way to beat it I have found from somebody copying me is moran noah biscuit helm jackal
@raven plover used folkwang instead
I've been trying to use Folkwang but not sufficient burst gen
But ITS make rookie arena become dull.
Everyone using the same pattern 😅
Nayutap1 / blanc p4 anistt helm swha vestiTU
Finally MilkT cooks 
Crazy
The issue with Folkwang Anis is Anis still needs initial protection, which forces you to run something like Biscuit. But then you're out of burst gen so you have to run two batteries, including a battery for your B3.
The alternative is instead of running Folkwang, you run Privaty as your B3 but still also Biscuit. You still need 2 batteries but at least now you have a strong B3 plus Anis is buffed by Privaty and also gets 3s of free damage time.
With Folkwang you get heals while you DPS but the rest of your party will probably die so it's Anis vs their entire team. If they also have an immunity unit, higher chance of losing. With Privaty, you both have a chance of nuking and killing units right there and your Anis also gets stronger due to Privaty's buffs. Your Anis won't heal back up, but there's a good chance you can kill most of their team during those 3s and so it's your whole team vs their 1 invuln unit. You still have a second Biscuit invuln don't forget.
An alternative is to run Nayuta like you see in my current CA team but I feel that to be a waste since Nayuta can also be turned into a separate team carry.
tl;dr in Anis team, you have burst gen issues due to needing to run Biscuit, so you have to pick between Folkwang and Privaty. And from my tests, I prefer Privaty
Note: You technically can build a 2RL team with Anis, Folkwang and Privaty. But the lack of Biscuit protection for your P1/P5 is super risky
It will also be stuck at 2RL. You can't charge speed if down to 1.7RL
What does the Anis Priv team looks like for SP? I often have problem on Priv surviving if enemy uses Anis Nayuta unless I go use Noah but that feels weird. Outside of Noah, it often just become Priv dying to Nayuta palm nuke due to Anis dealing a lot of damage already when she B1s. So in my mind I just thought, if Priv is not really surviving to FB, prolly just replace her with something else 🤔
Anis Nayuta should be stronger. It's just kinda wasteful for CA in my opinion.
In my case I'm trying to rebalance/redistribute and replace my CA Nero team because at this point, the sustain DPS choices are just way too strong for sustain heal teams to outlast
still waiting for champs neon cooks
I also did not like the idea of Blanc and Biscuit both being used on the same team
Felt wasteful
We need another Biscuit unit 
P4 is the only safe zone for blanc
Yes. We have 5 invuln/indom units atm but 1 of them is Makima who is not a carry, so practically we only have 4
Trina and Neon only provide 3s of safety, not enough
I don't even remember what Crow does
I was thinking a higher number for this one 
noah swha and vestiTU in the same team means the other 2 teams are weaker
to deal with this one you need a biscuit defender team to survive their early p1 p2 p3 pressure or a team that indoms and wipes during FB (will still need biscuit to survive early pressure)
what you can use depends entirely what the other 2 teams look like
Mm, ok, that could be something if treasured and became Attack Damage -70% lol
gl to SU trying to fit crow treasure into her lore
label unit but for each element 
then we can play pokemon with nikke
We are alr halfway there with Label and Sakura no?
Imagine if we get unit that gives auto revive to all and on resurrection gains invul for 5 or 3 sec 
Well I guess its useless for PvE though
'I can fix her' arc
Though the moment they give unit with some kind of invul ignore or continuous dispel/buff block debuff, I feel something drastic will change 
can't break what's already broken
pvp is already f*ed up, might aswell
the sooner we get to the point where they gotta scrap it altogether, the better 
I still wish "3/3 wins else its not an atk win" update
both good and bad, 3 wins against whales you're not gonna enjoy it
I mean, not like I'm ever gonna win against the whale I have in my bracket who has like triple my total CP with bad teams 
Had to double check, but yeah its really triple 
that's a stunnable noah
p1 defender p2 defender flex/moran flex siren
you need an instant nuker or at least a nuker that fits stun time range
thinking privT or lib
How about this
@torn geode both above should work as you get decent feed in p1
while lib likely becomes a 2RL delayed nuke, privT can become a 2.5RL or 3RL instant nuke
Lv900?

1058
that's fahren
Extremely wasteful for CA, maybe ok for SP?
I don't get how that folkwang team works? How does it fair against a Lib nuke with low atk P1 hitters?
Idk i didn't build her yet
keep in mind biscuit p3 could potentially die pre hitting 50%HP threshold on p1 and p2, if that happens lemme know and we can probably put biscuit in p4 or p5 and rather put your main B3 nuker in p3, but we'll see if it's needed (this will need to change your nuker as we need to avoid wind codes)
highly suggest giving your biscuit tempering
I wonder if her shield can save 2 atker from being nuked
bringing back folk would be a good jump in nostalgia
Ah nope, 460 for C7, ingot anis first copy in 60 and 2nd at 70
Sorry I checked these teams last night but none of them is past the min cp deficit of 3.07 mill
So now I I'm rerolling the atk stat on vesti in hopes of being able to kill Moran.
how much atk% does she have as is?
Increased from 37% to 40% now
quantum on jackal and centi's fine, tempering on biscuit, lib and siren can go resil/bastion or tempering aswell if you got slots left
eh i dunno 3% won't do much, she's already pretty high up there
the next thing would be running a risky team with anisOS buffing her instead of RH
@marble saddle
- SWHA vestiTU anisTT blanc HelmT
- midhara vestiTU aniTT blanc helmT
- helmT vestiTU anisTT blanc SWHA
p1 needs to die as you can imagine
you could add a midhara as sacc unit in p1 to give yourself some extra DoT during FB
no 
Can't he just Siren that Noah then nuke them?
he's CP gapped if running siren
Aye
I did some rerolls. Lost 2% charge speed and gained 6% atk
How about this
Anis noise buff all allies max hp 64.5%
Buffed folkwang then gives 32% shield for 2 atker
give it a try but i don't believe 6% will cut it, rather just go full ham with the sacc p1 above and get yourself an anisTT bufferoni on vesti
I'll try 1 time with the vesti team again before using these. If all these fails then I'll chill till I'm 741 sync
If u wanna kill Moran just use Ada with vesti
that's an option too, although i think you still can run the options above, might work as long as you hit indom one way or another
CP gapped
My 7/10/8 vesti on 30 atk can kill Moran
Even easier then don’t have to use Ada
At 17% cp gap? 
If it’s in your favor why even roll vesti
maybe helm but not lib
If It was in my favor why would I be bothering @tropic summit 
Fix the fundamental issue of being gapped first and save @tropic summit brain cells
I did last night.
#pvp-arena message


zant give us some of your sync levels, you don't need em anyway 
Not Ada
What do u expect
With Ada cp gap increases to 16.56%
Then fix ur gap
Hence why no point

This feels like Deja vu.
nikke in a nutshell: have problemo? 💳 besto solution
Yeah especially when the other guy is a bigger swiper
I'm currently at 735 so 6 more lvl will need some time.
damn how you gonna live without rookie now 
Anyway I got my plan. I'll let you know how it goes @tropic summit
Simple I'll go back to SPA 

the evil plan of zlaw, what is he cookin' 
omg again 
not againnnnnn 
Where is this lovely friend
1160
with moran B1 and on HP increase on tempering 
murder snake 

at least i can kill one of them before moran decides to sleep 
either way not enough DPS, tower can sleep for a while 
silly numbers 
ye lemme give it a go, it'll probably work but the rookie arena #2 gonna just copy my comp lel
kept taking his top 3 spot in sp arena too much so he raging in rookie, first day we got in the same group bro spammed gems to get my team😂
a meaningless action, let him waste gems for virtually nothing 
yeah i mean nothing personal in spa, but since he so triggered ima ragebait harder
frankly wasn't even doing rookie battles before that lol
the irony... 460+ for 1 copy 
guess i know who all my dupes went to
Sorry my unfortunate ass doesn't understand what his treasure ass just said
me neither
i just erased it from my brain
I wanted them to refund my luck more. 
300 pull x 0% = 0 anyway.
just return the gems and i'll return all the garbo i got from those pulls 
To be frank 460 pulls for max core is very lucky but not that lucky. Some guys max core in 200-300 anyway

i would've been fine with even just 2 or 3 dupes tbh
1 copy in 460+ is a war crime
just let it be a daily reminder to not feed money into these scam games 
Well, you still have 1000 left I guess. 
200k+ gems ye
not gonna get baited by silly gacha 
now fingers crossed for mint and prika to be absolutely garbo or mid
They probably Arena meta but I still won't try to get them
not sure I really have the gems to go crazy but if they good for pvp I may get a copy
building mileage for summer pilgrim anyway
fixed it
Well, I'm not pulling new units until my Emi is 25% CS.
Tired of wasting pull and rocks and my Emi still not 25%
Kinda worry it would be sugar alt in summer and I wasted 180 pulls on Neon. 
I won't pull for meta anymore but waifu
if another emi tier unit gets released, she could look ugly af, you'll pull her for sure 
More like rookie arena 
If that "ugly Emi tier" is crow alter then sure.

Unbanned?
scripteroni, macroroni, a bit of third party tools and a lot of banneroni
and spenderoni so SU unbanned 😄
1 day soft ban is the best they can do against paying customers, even if they hack a bit 

Imagine them charging 1k usd as a fine to unban account, easy money
how is Zero in 2nd? 
@tropic summit what other teams can jackal be used in that aren't indom?
top defends, bottom attack. Thoughts?
anything that benefits being linked and in p1
typically noise or moran
e.g.
noise bay biscuit vestiTU jackal
So something like this then?
move bay in p2 and jackal in p5 or you leave yourself open to SG pressure
also you don't want all 3 linked units in p1 p2 p3
5%CS is all you need
7.19Cs
Hmm
I was trying to change my def up a bit and used biscuit elsewhere. Idk how good it is
change T2 to
- anisTT blanc swha biscuit ada
rest could work, keep in mind T1 is still weak to indom unless you biscuit it
bay gets shredded by vestiTU
and liberalio
So if I move biscuit to t1 would the aniss indom team still work or no?
either way without noah your options are limited
might work on lower ranked opponents at least
they don't ban whales, who will they fine that 1000$?
The guy Ive been in limbo with managed to break it first try lol
not surprised
We been trading dia2 ch9
can't you get ch10 and skip past him?
try to ignore him, pointless fighting him back and forth
Hit 11 then hit 8. 
I can hit quite a few people in ch they just all hit me back for free
My def usually holds up from dia people
I maybe just be ch10 gatekeeper instead yeah 
@gaunt pulsar ?
@tropic summit I changed it to this now
Is aniss p1 without biscuit tanky enough?
Or should I change centi <> rumani around so I can still burst if aniss dies
Swap biscuit and Centi
I had b4 but then he said I should swap them too
Move Blanc to p2
Put SW is p5 instead.
Ada bursting?
Better Ada burst and SW misindomed.
Ah
Is the aniss blanc biscuit better than moran bay biscuit ?
You don't want P3 biscuit indom
Like which is better here with optimal positions
Okay so ada 3 bisc 4 swha 5
Put vigor on biscuit too
She has
They don't ofc since that will stop the revenue flow from coming especially if that cheater swipes hard
Just an hypothetical idea for them to double dip if they even implement some sort of banning period for these ppl 
The one on the right, go with
Vesti+Blanc+Ada+Centi+Anis.
Centi with vigor.
That'd be the best set up?
Idk, just give you the positioning that works.
I see
Trina p2 and helm p3
So team 3 doesn't lose to Noah p1 and a biscuit
P2 helm is fine in CA but in SpA helm better p3.
When you have Trina to put on p2
I see
Good to know
Then I have these iterations. Which one would be better 1 or 2 in your opinion?
I can change between them anyway but just curious
Vesti with just Moran buff doesn't have much dmg.
Anis without biscuit isn't really threatening.
So depend.
SW p5 btw. 
So swap with ada?
Yeah
Idk if SW team would be fast enough.
Its 2.5 100.4%
That's why
Just swap around 3 of them
I mean you could ignore Libby if you don't have CP problem
Feels like:
bottom
bottom
top
t4 genuinely no idea, could very much be top because nothing going to hit neon until nayuta b2 and by that time good majority of label elec. res will run out 🤔
t5 sg have a chance to backdoor absolute and eat emma+vesti before they start dying, should be top win i think considering full invest on both sides 
i voted top 😄 we will see
Can i get some advice? Fight this guy often and my wins are inconsistent
T1 - win or lose depends if someone except moran survives first burst
T2 - always win
T3 - gets wiped by scarlet burst
Thought of using noah in first team, but not sure 
another noahless one🫂
I have noah 
😄 so why not playing her xD
Because i don't know how to build teams
And that's why i'm asking for advice
T3 is a easy matchup, just use bay biscuit and nuke
I still need to figure out a way to win without Blanc. 
T1 weak to indom
T2 weak to anti nuke
T3 weak to indom, bay, rosanna, anti nuke
you've a lot of options here
most simple and direct:
I wished he used a more standard Anis biscuit team so it has more test value. 
But his Anis is too strong that's for sure.
for triple win if you got bay built @static dew
(anis in T3 is assumed anisTT)
Thats a cool comp
Thanks
Hm, i don't have RH build 
I tried to test my CA teams on it all lose for 3 days. His Anis too strong if it got indom or Helm burst I can't kill it. 
So had to be a scrub and kill it with a custom team

I guess u wont see that comp in ca either tho cuz its using so many high value units
here you go without RH
(anis in T2 is assumed anisTT)
(anis in T3 is assumed rumani)
20draw for neoneon last day
Hmmmm, guess giving RH doll alone wasn't enough, still need lines on gear
you're the type that tests in production aren't you 
How about this?
there's shooting range to test links and HP

Well, I could also nuke it with a Libby but that's also expensive. Needing biscuit.





