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#pvp-arena message @tidal lichen
the game was trying SO hard to have a personality that it kinda made me feel bad
this is definitely nice.
yeah at times it goes pretty exaggerated
heard u can also alcoholmaxx?
i like it's gacha system
they've put a lot of effort in artistic sense and scenes
it's different from the bland gacha games presentations and gestures
like the characters actually feel alive instead of being an obvious business model
but it is particular so i can understand if some people are turned off
yea thats how zzz feels too
i kinda feel like dropping zzz tho
ZZZ was on the right track but failed the moment it went cash cow mode and kept sh*tting out the same kind of things but with slightly different flavours
it had a good start and went into the usual HSR/genshin routine
2min into game NPC on prison boat not having animations 
stall with extra effort, looks weak to regular indom or slow nuke
- vesti blanc rh anisTT jackal
vestiTU with tempering
blanc and RH with vigor
AnisTT and jackal with quantum
wouldn't want to judge the game on the first 2 minutes
if you can't afford giving a game 1-2 hours, then you probably shouldn't bother to begin with 
Its more you notice that then you see it everywhere lol. Imo outside Mint in the story animtions games just kinda unpolished with roaming content tbh, comparing to Anata trailer its kinda like temu version vibes
it's far from a good game mind you, this is not RE4/requiem or Pragmata
but it's a pleasent different take on gacha BS
I would describe it as doing lots of things okay but nothing great
i'd welcome anything that tries to finally be different from the routine
definitely a great gacha take
Oki
you're not wrong
tyty
Unfortunately SPA is down rn so I can’t use those butttt Rookie is up
tried it twice, 1 win 1 lose
what was different when you lost?
vesti couldn't kill moran quick enough
she actually got none
oh wow
you're asking a lot out of her then
give her ammo asap so you can use her for indom teams
My vesti only has 1 ammo line and she is in my indom team
has worked so far though
don't have enough locks and rocks
@tidal lichen 
does she need charge speed?
5%+CS is enough
x3-x4 atk%, x2-x3 ele, x2 ammo, x2 CS% is generally a good ratio
i've got this on one of her pieces
ITS NOT HOLDING
holy f 
how do i make it hold 
wtf is that.
looks high enough to me 
I just want 3%, currently at 1.07% with my 19.1B
Hey Rail what should I use in Rookie Arena for the meantime on defense since surely I can make something better with the new Anis yeah?
@tropic summit got a counter for this one? Scarlet Trina?
Copied my team and is spending like crazy to win
Classic whale behavior lol
I’ve been leaving him alone so he can cool off and finally broke the team hit me 3 in a row. What kind of behavior is that
jack blanc vesti bisc draket
Thanks dude. Why drake tho?
for 2.5rl
quantum on jackal
anything that wont push you to 2rl and makes you 2.5rl is fine
instead of drake
I used jackel blanc sw biscuit and helm and it won 3 then he changed something and started killing my SW before indom. Probably a anis cube or something
if he has cs on Helm you can die before FB to Anis stars
can even die before Blanc casts B2
if you are too slow
can also happen yeah
if he has like 15% cs on Helm and you have 0 you just mirror match him
you can try to stall it with smth like this
you win by default
I don’t got Nero up to speed yet
He’s been stacking combat power for weeks since he can never win and the only way he does is when he mirrors
bayt bisc also works ig
join the boat of the broken rookie team with
- anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha
what if you just force misindom
it's kinda hard tbh, in theory in the mirror Helm should be indom
because you are double SR shooting p5
and your other units don't hit Anis p1 hard enough
and SWHA cooks Helm post indom
surely this can tank anis for 2 seconds right
don't think it can
Good point
at least not with cs on enemy Helm
😮💨
by 2s i mean 2s during fb
yeah
cuz you can't kill their Anis because of Biscuit, so their invin on her lasts as long as your Noah
2s after noah
and her stars will wipe your water before you can finish her
especially on a team that's p5 heavy target prio
only your weak units are even hitting Anis
if SWHA proc doesn't kill her as soon as Biscuit invin wears off
your waters are gone
and you are not favored in that race
aim is making it moran vs anis

that's only if indom is also on Anis, otherwise you are Moran into Anis + whichever B3 has it
which is never in your favor
only if it's Helm with indom
which can happen if their Helm p5 takes enough damage
if it's on SWHA you lose

Helm p5 variant should be easier to win overall though
double SR actually hits pretty hard on p5
so they have a really weak indom
I think even Lib is possible, but it has speed issues if enemy Helm cs is too high
Man I’m ready to give up he’s just whaling on my too hard he can have first. He’s moms giving him too much allowance money
like I'm pretty sure this wins if Helm gets indom, cuz you wipe everyone else with Lib burst without triggering Biscuit and they have a SWHA burst that never resolves cuz she dies without firing
3rl
and Helm is never getting through Biscuit Noah p1
if they had SWHA p5 you'd have a way harder time
i tried this
hmm maybe change to a different B1, don't like Rumani taunt
bisc is just enough for anis to kill the whole team

you proc Biscuit before Lib can kill?
I feel like you shouldn't with double SR
and rest defender
I can try it but the deficit is a bit high
if you had your own Anis or SWHA then it'd proc
but Helm Lib shouldn't proc, defenders don't do enough damage
need 536k actually would be in range
send it.
Alright
this should win tho no?
maybe swap to Jackal though cuz
the Rumani taunt is kinda sus

I don't trust it that much
well Idk
maybe it's alright
You guys are geniuses
just wish there was a better B1 
so the idea is that lib nukes whole team and only indom stays alive which you'd stall to death? assuming it's helmT indom then she gets stuck on either rumani or noah 
yeah, you have to kill without triggering Biscuit on Anis is the win condition
so you got super light on p1 damage and heavy on p5
force them on a bad indom
lmao damage on the whole team from the transition of 2RL B1 to 2RL B2 
cuz they have a bad position
you'd be stuck with indom SWHA instead if they ran helmT p3 and swha p5
yeah that comp is way more annoying to deal with, you're lucky tbh
mhm
I need to brush up on the positional targeting
If he did that I could just win with sw is p3 right?
maybe it's bugged or smth
it's probably the first few stars from anisTT
if i had to guess anyhow
still massive dmg spike
no but look how big the number is:
thats like a mini rosanna
i dont think a 40% of final atk star is doing that
it's the projectile buff on SWHA missiles
oh nvm it's actually swha
thats anis' ele adv
Can just helm burst there
or at least it happens at the same time
with noah archetype?
this also happens on full burst
not during the transition


is this like Vesti Emi bug again
i feel like it has to be smth

the synchro shot bug is back 
cuz it's like a mini rosanna
You dont have milkT, look at this noob @quick lake
🍝 code back on the menu
except this time it's consistent
because it's fixed 0.7s charge time on Anis and 1.2s on SWHA
maybe it's this proccing weirdly
oh yeah cuz she has 5 range on B1
this isnt full burst
No karanapping

emilia had smth similar no?
join us, we got cookies 
yeah it was emi + vestiTU + lappy
I can't see the ammo on SAnis, it's too blurry
from what blood told me back then, they fixed the weird interaction that was happening with vestiTU
I’ll pass, no sweet and savoury for me 
cuz depending on how much partial charge Anis has when B1 reduces her charge time to 0.7s, maybe her 3rd shot lands exactly when Blanc casts B2
but that might also require Helm cs to push Blanc faster a bit
I also don't know how much delay Blanc dmg taken has to be applied onto enemy, if it's 3 frame at 30fps or not


this would need some very intense pausing and higher resolution video to check Anis ammo on Blanc cast
but I can definitely see 40 Atk on her skill 1 + 40 Atk on B1 + Blanc dmg taken making her proc super fat
think you get some dmg taken from SWHA lock on too
not a lot though cuz split between 5 targets
I’ll see if I can get a screen record on my laptop tomorrow
blanc treasure at last 
Stop
Just delete everything
blanc pve treasure 
come on they already broke arena with anisTT, can't make it any worse 
you cant break something that was already broken
Scar gives dmg taken for 5s at start of fight to counter Label 
Hello chatters 

absolute legend lol. he got trolled at the end of the season with those
thanks so much, always have fun trying your teams out
@tropic summit can I have 11% cs on jackal pretty please
That’s not hard to get at all
Yeah but I havent rolled jackal yet
oh
1-rock roll until you get any cs
unless you want line 3 cs
3 decent cs lines will be enough
Jackal is a 1 line unit so shes chill
Yeah she is not gonna take 100 rocks to get 11% cs
more like less than 20 if you’re fortunate
Ive put over 20 rocks into 1 piece on centi for cs

You know
I have to punish you now
… by leveling up again today
What synch are you
for the 3rd day in a row
630
I'm not gonna say anything
Say anything
@keen vapor I lied
Cheating




761

my ada is just swha slave, ada dont even get miranda buff during her burst
if u have ein u can run ada+ein and move swha down to replace sdoro
Good gonna do that
if u run ada ein, u may or may not want to replace grave with takina
Oh really
ok surely this holds.
wtf 

@tropic summit 
Extra Trina dupe from friend point pull 
Huge
Share
Where chisato sir
will never be built
Probably jackal blanc anis and any two of helm swha vesti for rookie
This guy hates chisato rosa absolute
I can use my rocks better elsewhere
I can't get more so this better hold 
@tropic summit btw I ended in Rank 5 without even trying. If I actually malded I would've got another shot at CA.
Chat, I think we're in danger
What's the best team for pvp?
best teams is to CP gap, be 40+ sync higher. Else can refer to teams in pins 
This trio team is the best

Could it be a switch to a damage buff cube. I won and all of a sudden it was doing way more damage
Better get 56% atk ttAnis 
@tropic summit are you good with raid teams i need help so bad
what about ele?
I think 4 ele for pve works well too
Honestly Anis too broken 
I would do 4 ele 4 atk 2 ammo 2cs
or give up 1-2 ele for cs/crit if full pvp
ele also pretty good cause swha and helm 
so kinda 4 atk 2 ammo 2 cs 2 crit 2 ele?
I think Anis is my best unit so far 
in terms of cp?
T.T.Anis still can not beat besto shieldo in terms of cp yet
My Anis is 5th in CP i think. High ele and atk so far
Mine is 5th if I use tempering cube
6th if using Quantum

My Anis stars so far

Trust me I know I don’t need all that cs… I just keep getting it
Could someome help me make a pvp team im not sure were to start
send ur box
I would be lucky to be top 30%
guess my defs don't only work on chinnits, that's good to know 
welcome, here take a seat, let's enjoy this together 
good good, finally found the comfy rank for yourself 
now patientialy wait to find the remaining pvp core units then it's maldin' time
for those you can ask in #team-building or #questions , they're better oriented to help you with that front 
I leveled up to 601, still sub 1.9m cp
yep i feel ya
i'm trying again once hard story mode part 2 is out, i can go to 610
maybe it's gonna be enough to let me finish that bit of HP that is left
Waited for a few days and the player didn't change back to the same comp for me to test 
Win with 2RL comp with Helm and SWHA and tried to simulate that matchup by losing speed by using vesti but lost
Any idea what went wrong here?
I wanted to test this comp but couldn't run it with SWHA and Helm since linkage can't go to Rosa.
can't use vestiTU there anyway, would make you too slow
as for rosa she needs ele% and atk%, 7/10/10 (20-40atk%, 30-40% ele generally enough, or 60%+ele alone)
Ah, mine has only 30% plus across 3 OL gears and not OL on the leg gear
What's the best counter for this matchup though if i can't use Rosa here?
Main box
Helm.T | SWHA | Privaty.T | Vesti.TU | Liberalio | Scarlet
Red Hood | RRH | Bunny Soda | Noir | Mana | SBS | Neon.VE
Noah | Blanc | Biscuit | Centi | Trina | Bay | M.Anchor | Viper | Crown
Jackal | Rumani | Rosanna | Anis.TT | Noise | Moran | Soda | Soline | Sakura | Zwei
They are nayuta bursting but put blanc in the team 
Oh yeah, then it does not matter since i can just run typical indom
Their team is fast. Nayuta burst could kill your if you run jackal blanc indom but idk
I was thinking more along the lines of
Noah moran biscuit anisTT helm
Noah anisT biscuit cindy helmt could be work 
i dont think you need to gamble with noah, cindy anis nayuta + bisc + helm/swha/etc is enough
No Cindy so not an option for me
it's a typical nuke oriented team, i'd go with
noah anisTT biscuit lib helmT/SWHA
can still run privT over lib btw, still retains 2RL
for extra safety measure you can throw a noise in it
noah noise biscuit lib helmT, 2RL anti nuke with DR and HP+ to help you survive the followup palms
This works nicely.
I had tested the indom comp earlier too. Had no idea that AnisTT buff Nayuta can be so deadly and killed linked SWHA and HelmT with Jackal pre indom 👀
anyone know a counter team for this team?
star anis/cinderella/blanc/swha/biscuit
looks like same solution as this, enforce p5 indom with sniper pressure and little p1
pressure
rumani can be subbed by jackal to help you stay alive on p3 and p4
wow, I’m surprised you remember a counter team from 12 hours ago
it's a particular comp that we're still searching for proper counters, so it kinda sticked 
i see also since u r here that team u told me the counter to a few days ago didn’t work.
oh i see the problem, T3 needs a tad more speed, T2 ended up too slow
so in this case, maybe switch someone with a higher burst gen?
you've emilia/laplaceT ye?
what do you mean?
do you've the nikke, emilia or laplaceT
like do I have it do u mean?
ye if they're built and available
oh that yeah they’re both built they r both 10-10-10 and full ol gear.
do all the team needs a rebuilding?
T1 stays the same, T2 i'm thinking if we can actually bother with it or just skip it, T3 we can fix it with this
due to vestiTU we were too slow on noise B1, with emilia instead you'll hit B1 in time
yeah first team did win the battle so they can stay as is. I think we can skip one of the teams as you only need two teams to win after all.
Wait is the picture that you’re showing me is that t3?
Is noise worth building if u dont have noah
here is the updated matchup to avoid confusion
T1 and T3 should be guaranteed wins now, as we fixed T3 speed issue
T2 i think has a decent chance of winning
it will end up being a moran vs anisTT duel
lemme know how it goes when you attempt it again 
ok I’ll test it out tomorrow/later hopefully the guy didn’t change his defence team again. but yeah I’ll let you know. also fyi the counter team you told me for the rookie Arena worked. Thanks for that one. I appreciate it!
she can combo with bay and HP stacking stalls, so i'd say you can
example of HP stacking stall against vestiTU
it could be your noah replacement situationally, cuz it can tank a lot of things, minus perhaps cindy or heavy elec nukers
Oooh okay thats cool
Aniss re enter + noise + manchor improved healing + helmt 
I do use bay as well a bit but would noise be better than moran p1 on defence?
Does Blanc work against Anis or are the rng rockets too much a variable?
her auto atk isnt rng so yes 
SP arena in cooldown, #pvp-arena :

only rest day for rail tracer 
If use moran, can use dr + hp stacking. So hp stacking isn’t so diluted 

Mchan, 
Hi Teo could you screenshot your CA champ guy 5 teams and send it here? Thank you. 
fishy stuff 
Lack of sound.
How was your SR?
Did you manage to get 5%?
idk it's not ending yet, right?

Today is the last
if you got 3% I should get 5%. 
This sr is great
how many hours you threw at this.
very randomic number i see 
I might be able to hold out, since jp prediction is 20.5
Anywhere between 12-24

Since hippo made me record some of my runs
make it 69
ofc it's the evil @shell hazel fault

That shit is a few hours minimum just cuz of the execution
I never thought ein's burst could be 100% crit when you don't shoot
whassup
might need some help against this comp
Shot abstinence
is the way
I was thinking maybe nuking in between reenter times but the damage is insane, my scarlet isn't built enough
but my trina isn't built enough either so scarlet can kill but gets finished off by anis moran
Yeah, you prolly need another buffer then
may have to invest more
If you don’t nuke and kill, it’s hard to come back
the damage is ridiculous
For you?
Or the other team dealing you damage?
for me
guess I'm throwing in the hat on recruit arena cuz I can't think of anything else to counter
I tried fighting that team but didnt have enough dmg to kill moran
Rosa poked
Level gapped
But Anis Moran is a problem because re-enter I’m guessing?
anis moran and noah should be easier to exploit cuz the time to reenter
Hence why you Rosa poke
I just can't keep up anything to soak the damage or survive after burst (even noah)
what kinda team do you recc cuz charge speed is another thing
@rich quail as a whel, you shouldn’t poke those underneath you, you booli 
Yes, Rosa is best with Trina/Scar/Jackal
If ur opponent have charge speed u also get sum charge speed
IT IS YOU WHO IS THE BOOLI

yeah I can't rosa poke

she's less built than trina
CP gap?
beyond the .83% at that point
Didn't go check SR yet. I still have my 19.1B, but I mocked a 20B one with some altered teams. If it looks like the 19B won't hold for 3% I'll try to get the 20 again for real.
is there really no other option?
if I can get cindy charged a good amount, maybe


I’m no expert
But maybe VestiT will help
if CP gapped
you are JPN server right?
yessir
Will this Kekw
The simplest answer is kind of just get Rosa
Siren stun the classic
Please help me with a pvp team.
Rosy from this channel would nag me every time I didn’t think of using Rosanna
rookie or SP arena?
I’m the Rosa enjoyer
Rookie.
idt a new unit is gonna come out worth building until summer, so I got 2 months to build up trina and rosa 🫡
is helmT phase 2+ s1 lvl 10?
I have to rebuild mine because I have 4 atk but no e dmg
Even tho my Rosa is kited to kill water units only Lel
I have 3 ele and only 2 atk
Still quite a long way from that.
wait I have 33%
then run
- nayuta anisTT vestiTU SWHA lib
2 lines ele dmg
4 atk at 45%
I have 60% ele and 18% atk and 3 lines of crit rate
rosanna still luck. dont like using her 
makes me frustrated
The crit rate is derp but my chance to crit is actually 43% kinda derpy

U gotta believeveveve
for this one run
- jackal blanc swha anisTT helmT (SWHA indom)
or - jackal blanc vestiTU anisTT helmT (vestiTU indom)
if you don't reach B2 safely, run
- jackal blanc swha biscuit helmT
or - jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT
teams obviously assumed not in stat penalty
@tropic summit got a moment?

If anyone is able to help with suggestions ^ Ty 
What’s ur teams now
my current teams were suggested to me a long time ago by Railtracer when i had barely invested into more nikkes. (final team was auto cus it was just that bad LOL)
so after their suggestions back then, i just thought id come back and see what anyone would suggest with my current nikkes. (the message i was replying to has the updated nikke roster)
what's up
Is a 20% cp deficit foolish to atk? Or is there a way to succeed?
SP arena
- nayuta anisTT cindy helmT viper
- jackal siren scarlet noah RH
- moran bay biscuit lib laplaceT
Notes
- build up moranT
- build up asap SWHA
- wishlist/build vestiTU
- get teams upgraded once those above are ready/done
it depends entirely on the lineup you're facing and if it's weak to either indom vestiTU or liberalio nukes, and most importantly if it's running stall teams or indom teams
start by showing what's this lineup like
Well I'm out for now so I'll post the details as soon as I'm home.
oke, if it's an anisTT team on 2RL i can already tell you to give up tho
No it's a noah tmoran biscuit with swha trivaty team
The issue is the cp gap
moran on deficit, good times
what's worse with a biscuit
Yeah ik.
probably can give up 
Ok.
there's 2 things you can try although it will be very darn close
- jackal blanc swha ada helmt
- blanc vestiTU rh biscuit jackal
run w/e is less gapped of the above
Well I'm getting my ass kicked 5 times a day already for 4 days.
Nothing worse can happen
tysm, i believe i have vestiTU, so once ive built vesti & SWHA up whom should i replace?
scarlet team and lib team gonna be remade, T1 can be upgraded
ahh okay, once i get round to upgrading, ill spin back again. Ty for your help 
no problemo
@covert lintel maybe first time I got 5% after all
Maybe I could get to 18b if I switched to PC and mald like crazy but meh. Wasn't able to burst fast enough to fit last 100% burst of Neon in.
pve g0on 


Can someone help me make a rookie arena team?
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMTc4MDY5MzE2MTk1NDE4NTIzNjg=
Rookie
- nayuta anisTT helmt swha vestiTU
Notes
- build up biscuit and blanc and can upgrade your rookie
Okay, thank you! Is Jackal and Noah outclassed now?
I'm currently using nayuta, vestiTU, helmT, jackal, noah
they're not, but they would be a weaker team if ran like that due to a mix of less threat, CP and speed
you'll want to aim for anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha as one of the best rookie team available atm
HelmT wants to be middle?
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she can be p3 or p4 for all it matters
I can build blanc and biscuit today, so if I do, that order is the best?
p3 is just more likely to be indommed together with p5 due to splash range
and p5 due to SR pressure
p4 won't be hit by most things and is less likely to be indommed, and you don't wanna biscuit indommed
Oh, I thought the burst order goes the same like in other content
they need to be built to be very high in CP, so make your judgement based on that
regardless building them if you're done with campaign team is useful for pvp on all modes
it does, it's from left to right
anisTT blanc biscuit helmt swha has more chances to give indom to biscuit due to splash range
anisTT blanc helmT biscuit swha has more chances to give indom to helmt and swha
Thanks for this ^^
Nah, you just use crown for bad team
There is no other team to put crown in here. I don't have Arcana+Isabel built 
According to guide, you should put crown to the highest dps team.
In other word cindy team
Crown doesn't really upgrade dmg over Nayuta. That team already has S.Anis for reload buff
Now this pvp arena is becoming solo raid haha
Solo raid invest is so much more expensive than pvp, pvp don't need to have that much investment to hold top 5
Very low chance tho, cuz you can lose hardcounters from sheer invest dif
Ive watched sg team beat slow cindy
Sad my neon has 3 pieces with ele and I think I only managed to use 2 firepower instead of 3 despite having her burst 1st
I can confirm
It is very luckbased but you need exponentially more luck if low investment
Im finally invested at a point where I just need a decent run and I can win

Bigboi a pvp
Im hopefully going back to baby bracket
nah it's already cooked
you won't be able to go back
but if older brackets get inactive, our top end could get isekai'd

I may be able to, the brackets flip flop and im on the low end of hime bracket
Just put me in with the brand new players
there's no padding older brackets anymore
so people only move up to older brackets if activity lowers
can't pad it out to push you down a bracket
They should do it anyway
I think i deserve it
surely you will get 30 CA wins before beta ends 
no, you'd get rusty. Here have another opponent on 36% deficit to beat

Beta ends next season
after this one
So my poli gets to never see use again, neat
Or my anis
beta ends after EoS
Eos begins when beta ends
which will come first? CA beta 2 or surface beta 2?
It turns out, the whole game is in beta
Theyre actually working on 3 more difficulties
hello! sorry I missed this somehow! 
I got a little more but I think I was done, I got 22.4B in the end
this is my limit and it's 0.43% with 3 hours to go so not safu but might be?

did you notice our SPA pal made it to the end of chapter 44 hard mode?
3 more games that focus on the same player base trying to steal money from them for 3 months, then give them a new game to do the same
i am at 0.43 also, let's pray
i didn't è
.5? probably
the thing is, we can't find them in the clears for a stage on 44-15
i'm like 1.5% only 1 hit with my mock teams
we think they may have skipped it 
for now i am still stuck on Ziz
ziz is a hard beast to kill
i just don't have enough synchro level
whats the best team for arena rn?
ziz is a dps check, you can't do much without the units and cp, not many ways to get more dmg
+35%cp gap
there is no good def team since cindy banner
rookie? anisTT variants
SP arena? moran noah, indom and anisTT
we found them here at 44-16
but they are NOT in the 44-15 clears for the past week with less than 1.8M CP
so we believe they have used a bug to skip 44-15
yeah for rookie,
what anisTT variants do i use
anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha
Aight, thanks man
its the best def team as of now? (For rookie)
Best rookie defense imo
You need lightning fast burst gen.
Gaming chair hand and burst you B3 when the other B3 at 20s countdown. So you have the last burst on time to fix Neon 3rd 100% in. I can't do that with mobile because the boss moving. But if you played on PC or Laptop with pause tech it's easy.
ye one of the best, every anisTT variant can be decent, the indom and noah ones are the most resilient
The timing for Neon is super tied so probably only someone like Retro could do that as phone player. You also need big screen and play with both hand probably to pause with one hand and aim with another.
You can pause tech with 1 hand

Its not that hard to do?

I learned how to pause tech back on mc

Pause with phone is hard. And it's clunky unlike pause with PC and a keyboard.
Its really not
You don't even play on phone. 
I literally only play on phone
I saw retro video already his pause is clunky as hell comparing to PC video.
And that's playing on an Ipad. Instead of 6-7 inch phone
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Its clunky but its not hard
You have 2 fingers? You can do it
Hard if your hand is big and your phone is small.
My hand is bigger than my phone by a good margin
its not all that bad tho. if i do some ol stat gambling on my blanc jackal and biscuit i can prob reach the non deficit cp
Hello guys. How do I beat this team while in deficit?
Where the deficit
shhh. bro must not know
I mean, if you want deficit
anything above 15% is not in deficit for PVP
Or Sr15 them
Below 15.4
Or above -15.4
Next suggestion?
Siren P4-5 to stun Blanc
Yay rh b2
thats mine 
I see, thanks. What team can I use to beat that team?
Same team but replace Noah with Blanc
Yeah, for a new player SR investment is harder. For an older player SR investment is easier.
I got the win. Thank you very much!
welcome. if you have any further pvp question dont hesitate to ping zantarath 
im praying for your safety.
should be fine I don't think I lose 0.06% in 2 hours and a bit
but I guess you never know lmao
need closer to 25+ for top 200 I think
doesnt seem too bad tbh
same
im definitely dropping out of 0.5 if the next one is iron tho 💀
which i kinda feel like it will be?
surely we get matis2 to save the oc
my iron is.. not good lol
im missing snow and eve
and ig soda too
soda lacks all lines
snow and eve arent even ol'd
no bade=ff infinite
more like milk
i have bmilk, all the rotations suck without bade, even with crown is not enough dmg to kill the elite (stage6)
you need 2 tetra units, no good iron b1 tetra, b2 is bade, b3 is bmilk or sugar/bsoda

my units are a bit better than that, the lowest hp i got the elite was around 800 bars with sniper rotation
shelm is not enough
with bade you can just use RH for sniper+ frima if you need bmilk (can use another b3)
AR you have juliaT+eve or shelm
RL laplace-raven or anis flex, probably RL is harder without bmilk, because manual raven is worse than bmilk and probably you don't have laplace build
i trust matis2 laplace.
also, hyper carry eve+maxwell is less dmg than juliaT+crown, can't do much without bade, so... we need a better b2 unit or a new iron tetra attacker/b1 cdr
or actually more than that i kidna waant sugar or maxwell to have their own treasure instead
treasure should be later... not enough time unless we get b2 powercreep or new iron tetra
Do we now have a consensus on Neon? As in is she just gimmicky thanks to her invulnerability but there are better options for CA?
kinda hard to powercreep b2 invul and b2 indom but im waiting for SU to cook the 3rd best pvp b2
if you are a pvp player, use her if she is the units you want; if you are a pve player, you can use neon if she helps... not a lot
can save some biscuit S2, flex p5 but pvp players have units that can do a bit more
talking about overclock infinite, without bade you can't do dmg
i think anis was iron unit and neon wind missilis, but this time they went with the theme to avoid another siren incident
Got it, better options available then!
og neon is elysion
neon over ein is weird, missilis don't have good wind unit and if your neon is bad or you play tower at low lvls, ein is still better than neon...
over spec
i think neon trash in campaign cuz of how her burst works but maybe her autos more than make up for it
so might still be good despite her finicky burst
os neon shouldve been fire 
now for bosses... neon dmg is way higher because how her kit work
yea
kinda hard to play with neon indom in pvp tho cuz of her 3 sec invul
and her dogshit burst gen 
laplace and vesti still have the most potential of some units, the problem is that SU have to make enemies that have really high defensive values, but that just make all the units in the game worse, something they don't want because people will cry
it should be easy... if you don't fight a swha
link+vigor
or just avoid teams that can damage p3~p5
you can probably just use blanc+biscuit and neon p2, first hit should be enough hp to get blanc burst
Yeah
the true damage paradox
ill never understand arena. same comp. used
what against what
I have been experiencing the same thing. haven't changed my rookie def and suddenly several people that were winning against the comp just...arent anymore 
safu desu, I had to get a nicer round number
little more was possible if I combined my best mocks but there we go lol

@tidal lichen no matter the game, i'm fighting whales 
that guy looks cool 
boss fight was indeed epic 
that is not fadia 
she's lvl 1 give me time 
Rail
how petty are your whales? I got my 1st / 1st place in tower. bro proceeded to settle 200+ half hour later 
why noah stunned?
see who can get wordle in the least tries
https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html
noah taunts p1 and p2, if siren is p2, she'll then start shooting noah
to avoid that run noise taunt priority, so that noise taunts instead (noah needs to have 4%+CS faster than noise)
Max Core #35 get 
Gz for SR 0.5
does it mean he killed Ziz at 541 sync ?
he did yes
wtf
and the next boss also
how
I legit think might be using some kind of cheats because of the stage skip at 44-15
i will defeat @versed mesa one day
You already did 
@upper grove i did it bro 

nice la 
25.5b was 198th 

at least you know what to do for next electric SR
well good thing i raised form my 25.3 then
i was expecting electric to be my skip tbh
I didn't bother this SR, I only malded neon and cindy team, the rest is too shit to work with
summer anis, ada, moran, ein 1 ele, just bad
let's not talk about atk, that one is even worse for my account on electric 
Im back here asking about a team to kill this def again, but with anis and neon
I would have been happy with just the 3% after missing it so many SR in a row, the 1% I got wasn't even on my thoughts
zant you had high cores on anis and neon right? 
hi sorry for the direct ping, but would Cindi be able to replace drake? drake higher CP but Cindi higher on the tier list as a burst 3
just recntly pulled her
ues
but 2 ele anis
the curse continues
my goal is to rank in fire again and wind + water
electric and iron will stay meh for me right now
Any recommendations for me on updating my atk/def teams on arena?
@hollow lagoon 
how could u do dis to me
i thought we loved eachother
i will defeat u one day
she won't fit anywhere atm, and if she's barely built even more less reason to
cindy has very bad burst gen, while drake has decently high burst gen, and you're already burst gen thirsty on all teams
Atm i don't see any change that needs to be applied 
hmm not using lappy and anisTT so definitely can improve something here
SP arena
- nayuta anisTT cindy helmT drakeT
- jackal vestiTU blanc biscuit laplaceT
- moran siren swha lib noah
@placid bloom @tidal lichen @tropic summit Better res and jackal. Seems like rumani does slightly better tho
nice thanks for sharing 
gave the same solution earlier today to a jap bro, he also confirmed it worked (got p5 indommed, it was a biscuit)
seems consistent so far
What score
higher than yours
i fought hippo today on NTE

a sugar daddy gave it to me 
We got another ET
for his cute e girl
Won’t be for free, get buttcheeks ready
that's the only virginity i hope to retain for the rest of my life 


No yaoi, yuri is better 
My first 1%
watch the absolute chaos 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=majYNntxS7E
mf clearing shiet on 42% deficit 
I've been using this in Rookie Arena for attacking into deficit and it's been working out really well; notably it lets me shrug off Siren stun without adjustment and the 3 seconds of invulnerability seems to be enough to survive until Blanc burst at least up to 30% deficit so far.
Potato sack outside of burst but with Anis in FB she delivers nukes to the whole enemy team every second which has been nice for punching up into many of these defense teams
Just saying it's got me warming up to trying to sort out one squad for Neon+Anis in SPA for hitting significantly higher sync players where all the buff stacking might be necessary instead of overkill
noah/biscuit/vesti/star.anis/noise
how do i beat thisß
anisTT blanc swha helmt biscuit
hmm it really is SWHA proc that's the hard hitting part. This is like 1 frame after Anis goes from 10 to 9 ammo, this should be her charge shot + proc damage on all 5 units
Moran isn't currently T3, is that okay? I have like 70 kits so I'm just missing 40, but I thought it would be good to mention
you can use moran as is, even untreasured she serves her purpose there
she gets better once you treasure her tho
grats Kara 🙂
I assume her T3 is the most important?
I guess Anis just makes it fast enough that you actually get to apply Blanc dmg taken before SWHA lands, which was not reliable before
now the team is consistently sub 1.8RL
good god. 
it reaches 1.5RL natural at 15% cs on Helm
the base speed is so fast you can even put Blanc p1 and be immune to Mermaid stun
So we cooked now? EoS for pvp? 
well just like scar trina helmt swha anisTT can B3 before natural 2RL (anisTT-less) is on noah B2
@tropic summit
Oh hey, I just noticed that standard anis isn't on here. Guess she's no longer needed?
OG anis hasn't been needed since trina times, it's more of a card to play when you're without pvp core burst gen units
An_s, can you guess the missing letter? 
@placid bloom @tidal lichen what would you use for this?
Or u treasured Centi cuz of maddnesssss
S
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just blanc it no?

p4 anisTT gets biscuit stack unless we kill p2, i guess vestiTU + something for p2?
Ahhh gotcha. That's likely why I had her on there because I didn't have Trina until recently
I will defeat you one day
vestitu + anis
@quiet merlin try this next:
anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT
Nah, I'd lose
minigame is so hard 😭
i suck at rhtyms
I thought I was ok at rhythm games. Nah this minigame makes me hate everything

I'm okay at it up until like difficulty 11
What are some good counter attack teams that I can look out for with SP and Rookie?
asian tier difficulty is something else
they expect you played OSU on hard mode at 4 years old
Casual to Normal feels like going from First playthrough of Dark Souls, to blindfolded no damage speedrun.
I notice especially my pinkies cannot keep up with the swipe left/right notes
the base 4 and spacebar is alright
I can't even handle the base 4 on most songs
the swipes can just die in a fire
that worked great, ty 
say ty to @tidal lichen he cooked 
anything above 7 is impossible for my fingers.

at 3 speed.
im better at reflex stuff
i miss bunny ade minigame 

Me too
get a friend and play both on each of the 2 sides of the keyboard 
well it just depends how much time you spend on it
tf.
just try more then you get score.
I was having trouble with difficulty 7 at first but now I can all perfect clear them
coop rhytm game 
spent too much time on it 
jokes aside some of these difficulties really make you wish for an extra finger or two
There was someone on the main thread a few days ago who did all perfect on all songs on like day 1
On hardest difficulties
brain can't keep up 
At the first hard score was 800k.
nah I don't think finger helps, I feel like it I had foot pedals they'd help more with the left/right swipes
cuz my pinkies just can't do it
oh this would be handy indeed 
it actually throws me off because I have to spend more strength to force my pinkies to press shift keys
which shifts the balance in my hands
The swipes just make me mad, my fingers don't bend that way 

I tried ring finger set ups and my ring finger is stiff too
Then when they want you to hold the swipe while there is notes too? Get the f out

it just doesn't have the speed that pointer and middle finger does
or the accuracy
maybe it's alright for full combo but not all perfect
key sound make me confused so I turned off

Can you help me with my PvP teams? I want to see what position each character is best in. I recently got Anis and Neon, and I put them in place of S. Anis and Rapunzel. What could I do to improve my teams?
what usually counters noah nowadays? stun and lower RL?
@tropic summit this took me a few tries
T3 was a no go, hate dealing with that team at deficit
Lots of opfion
Indom, stun with soda, slower noah, 1rl










