pvp-arena

[gritty ridge]

Noah and trina need a bit more still

[wise zephyr]

Haven't updated SP Arena teams in forever, any recommendations for a generic set of 3 teams I can just send and pray to win LOL

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT helmT emilia rrh
• moran siren lib swha noah
• jackal vestiTU cinderella blanc laplaceT

Notes

• build up moran and finish her treasure
• get priv treasured afterward

[severe tundra]

@tropic summit any suggestions on how to beat this?

[north brook]

Neon can work for beating the faster versions if u run her slower since u then have blanc anis neon all passive invuln

[tidal lichen]

jack blanc snow bisc ada

check if this is in range

[north brook]

Vesti offensive pressure more widely applicable i think

[tidal lichen]

anis blanc cindy bisc flex

can try this too

xmaiden can replace cindy

[severe tundra]

It most definitely is not, considering my Ada lol

[tidal lichen]

anything with not too much gauge gen can replace ada

as long as it stays 2.5rl

[versed mesa]

19.1B 0.74% currently on SR hoping it won't drop below 3%

[north brook]

Think running jack not ideal for these anis bisc teams

[tidal lichen]

on global?

[versed mesa]

Yup

[tidal lichen]

probably doesnt.

hopefully it doesnt.

[north brook]

Need to check the prediction calc

[tidal lichen]

i need to somehow keep my 0.5%

[versed mesa]

I haven't reached 3% for like 3 or 4 SR raids in a row now.

[tidal lichen]

i can maybe push to 23 but thats it.

[versed mesa]

I might try again one more time on the last day, but malded for a few hours already. I was so sure when I saw that 19B that "Oh this is probably barely in the 3% range, so the 0.74% gives me hope a bit

[north brook]

Need to check last day rlly most ppl wont hit until then

I think my isabel or anis need more rocks

[umbral crown]

[tidal lichen]

no :hmmcros

where did my emoji go

[umbral crown]

[austere marsh]

Hello

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-496833742737182965

[tidal lichen]

surely we both rank 0.5%.

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

maybe, would be my first one under 0.5%

last two were 0.66% and 0.58%

[tidal lichen]

im just aiming for better than before

last was 0.75

[shell hazel]

I'll probably just run back the same teams on last day maybe see if I can improve it a little but frankly I didn't think I'd get his far when I started this raid

I thought 20 would be difficult, it was but now it's at 22 lol

[tidal lichen]

counters too op.

[ionic rose]

honestly, it was about time the MC's are op

especially Neon, summer anis and regular anis are both relevant not to mention rapiRH

[obtuse tendon]

@umbral crown random person with a question. Are those cubes for those units all of the time or just with the way you have them listed?

[umbral crown]

use it as Rail said, mostly in the pvp part they are right

for snow and noah personally i always keep them in tempering

[obtuse tendon]

Thank you. Just wanted to double check.

[umbral crown]

any time

you can always trust Rail when it comes to pvp

i feel like Rakuen, really low on jims

[obtuse tendon]

I've just been sitting silently and trying out different setups I've seen rail put out and now I'm beating players higher than me more consistently.

[umbral crown]

waos, thats a really good thing indeed

[unreal dawn]

Thankyou, i will try your recommend teams

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit I WILL DEFEAT YOU ONE DAY

[fading ermine]

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

I tired now I go sleeeeeeep

[wheat karma]

Anyone have any team suggestions for SP Arena teams?

[covert lintel]

Aim for Top 50

[hollow lagoon]

Nah

Bro this is my limit

[swift mango]

This is early on, he won't hold so it doesn't matter. If he wanted top 50 he could just hit at first hour

[drifting schooner]

can someone explain this to me, im using the exact same team, fighting the same guy, facing his same team, all i did was swapping the position of my vesti and SW, didnt change nothing on my end, first time indom went to vesti (as u can see the hp of vesti went up by a big chunk after blanc bursted), and second time it went to SW. what is going on??? supposedly it should always go to SW cuz her hp starts with 882, while vesti hp starts with 897, and they are both linked by jackal.

[covert lintel]

I updated my SR
I got another 2b

[keen vapor]

Man, everyone doing more than 20 b

[keen vapor]

Help I don't have a Takina

[covert lintel]

Grave is fine too

@keen vapor 777 takina
101010 grave
it's the same either way

[keen vapor]

I have to max Grave once again

[raven plover]

nah rakuen has 30k gems

hes reech now

[raven plover]

damn using isa arca? must be 27b

[fickle furnace]

@tropic summit nice cook, got 3 more out of him. I will now rotate between this one and the other one you sent me . if you have anymore defense sets that might require different attack teams to trip him up, love to see. just fun to mess with my rival and see the results

[umbral crown]

waos

Anis is making me broke

[raven plover]

same

[umbral crown]

but at least got today 1 more copy, closer to the goal

2 more and im done

[covert lintel]

wdym

[raven plover]

Im broke and mine isnt even mlb

[raven plover]

oh 20k my bad

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

we

Not even 1 copy

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-reggie-franklin-the-boys-embrace-affection-gif-25853687

[swift mango]

Yeah you should be, your account isn't bricked like mine

[scarlet adder]

i got 4 anises out of 700 pulls

maybe try this?

[undone blaze]

Having P1 link and Jackal in P2 is usually a bad idea, huh?

[covert lintel]

Nah, this is just the result i built isabel.
I won't get this kind of dmg if it's another ele

I hope they release b2 for harran purpose

[glad meteor]

Sr doll for harran

[quick lake]

OG campaign 👀

[glad meteor]

There weren’t sr dolls back when she was meta

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

[spiral onyx]

Jackal didn't even exist when Harran was meta

[undone blaze]

How do these teams work if its a 3RL team?

[willow thicket]

Damn, the player is even going after me in rookie arena.

There's like 4 more wins below this screenshot.

I hope the player saves their gems for anniv

[covert lintel]

He's cooking something cause anis is bringing new meta

[torn briar]

give me your comp please

[spiral onyx]

All the new units changing meta.
First VestiT
Then Liberalio
Then SWHA
Now Anis

Except Neon

[fickle furnace]

anis unfortunately broke the good defenses

[spiral onyx]

RIP Neon

[fickle furnace]

now we can't defend reliably even against pvp shitters

[spiral onyx]

You will find a use... One day

[quick lake]

Have u tried new stall comp? Nero Anis Moran HelmT Bay/Rapun

Super broken

[covert lintel]

the music and art is the goat but her mech is mid

[covert lintel]

Hoax

[quick lake]

where the dmg breakdown

hyperbuffed SWHA hmm

[glad meteor]

Blanc debuff counter dr

[quick lake]

thats true too

[covert lintel]

I forgot to click it

[spiral onyx]

No need really, any Anis comp is by default broken. Anis is broken lol

I'm half convinced they accidentally typo'd some number somewhere and decided to just keep it for PvE

And forgot about PvP

[quick lake]

the re-enter B1 feels like a pvp consideration. But maybe typo somewhere yea

[spiral onyx]

Definitely not. Re-enter B1 for double buff is crazy good in PvE

[quick lake]

we’ll have a new pvp unit to counter Anis soon surely

[spiral onyx]

Noah 2.0 will save PvP

Trust

[covert lintel]

Marian 3.0 first

[spiral onyx]

After she gets her 10th skin

So maybe by 4th anniversary

[north brook]

Yeah anis might make that team better into old meta but into anis blanc it just melts

[quick lake]

I have no one to test against

[north brook]

I think unironically they tried to nerf her with the reenter mechanic, but shes still too op

[spiral onyx]

Anis is literally a "slap into any team and now it's stronger" unit, just like Moran+ is

Which is why I feel like it's a waste to use her as a support when she is fully qualified to be used as a main carry

[north brook]

Ya her buffing is so strong and dmg so high

We unironically need something unfair defensively to even hope to have a team withstand indoms now

[north brook]

I think its actually only really good with moran for bossing or if u want for pvp, otherwise u rlly dont want it

Anis moran can make u live bosses easier but u lose a ton of dmg from hyper buff anis where u could run like anchor instead for survive checks

[spiral onyx]

I was mentioning it earlier but I believe we've finally gotten to the point where damage mitigation just isn't enough. It's indom/invuln or nothing

[north brook]

Ya its back to feeling the way it was at lvl 200

[spiral onyx]

Noise isn't enough. Jackal link isn't enough. Even the Nero Moran Helm+ stall comp ain't enough

[north brook]

The only thing that doesnt die is invuln/indom

[spiral onyx]

Anis burns through a stall comp far faster than they can self heal

[north brook]

I think it was a balance consideration before anis that all offensive buffers did not have good burst gen

Now uh we see

That is kindof insane

[spiral onyx]

That's why we need a Blanc 2.0 or Noah 2.0 or Biscuit 2.0

Neon could have been that if her invuln buff lasted longer

[north brook]

Ya i think shes ok but if it was 5s it would be much more solid

[strange linden]

I can definitely feel the anis meta when all of my def get shred in one attack
At least I could win one or two def before
At this point Diamond seems like a nice rank

[frank ingot]

I tried this and I am above CP deficit, but I lost, blanc and anisTT still lived with indomed swha. another dude copied the def I had in rookie so I tested it

[arctic jewel]

So defensive teams are a waste or?

[quick lake]

harder to defend ig

or rather needs more tailored attacks

[arctic jewel]

I mean like, should we only focus on designing teams that focus on offense?

[spiral onyx]

Defence has always been a solved game

Every defence has its hard counters

And your opponent's defence team is publicly available

And doesn't get any defender buff

[strange linden]

While also showing nothing to tell you how you lost

[spiral onyx]

The only way to "win" on defence is to either 1) swipe to out CP them and depend on CP penalty, or 2) pray your opponent doesn't have a clue what they're doing

On a completely unrelated note, what have we decided on for Anis' short name? AnisS? TTAnis? And what about Neon?

[strange linden]

||if you're a day one player 2) rarely apply and you'll find bigger whale ||

[arctic jewel]

Oops, sorry, I mostly meant CA

[spiral onyx]

CA is a big game of rock paper scissors

You either try to build 4 strong teams or 5 strong teams

Generic all purpose teams that have the highest overall win rate against other common meta teams

[north brook]

I think just anis and neon make sense since this is their canon ssr version

In half a year they will have so much usage that same as rapi they just dont need a title

[arctic jewel]

Ait, basically the same as always xD

[north brook]

Because when u think rapi u obv think the broken unit not the sr unit

[arctic jewel]

I personally think Anis is fine, since it's that specific Nikke that everyone usually refers to, just like Rapi

We already have SAnis and SR Anis

[north brook]

Its similar to how vesti is almost always referring to new vesti since old one is unusably trash

[spiral onyx]

On paper it makes sense, but in practice there's a few issues:

1. Anis is so overtuned that even if Neon bursts, her damage is negligible compared to Anis'
2. Neon's burst gen sucks and she would require significant battery support, which would drastically limit the team options
3. Neon herself needs some form of assistive sustain, but she is neither a Defender (so she can't take advantage of Biscuit) nor is it easy for her to become lowest HP (so she can't take advantage of Blanc + Jackal). So she is pretty much locked into Noah

[north brook]

U barely need to specify tac upgrade

[spiral onyx]

SAnis used to be meta though and SR Anis is still very relevant as a battery, so I'd like to avoid that confusion

Heck, even Emma OG used to be meta very early on

[north brook]

Ah i didnt mean neon specifically high pvp usage i think shes more like mihara or lib, will be very present pve with side of mbe pvp niche use

[arctic jewel]

Who uses any OG Absolute Nikkes anyway?

[north brook]

Ya tbh its anis, sanis, and sr anis now

[arctic jewel]

Damn, the more you know

[north brook]

The broken one is anis, sr anis is sr anis

[arctic jewel]

I personally think this is fine, there's a clear difference between all of them

[spiral onyx]

So I was trying to find my old videos of Emma OG

And I found this gem instead
https://youtu.be/qWsdOynA6Vo?si=OYeskXzVj9P_U0Uh

Harran didn't even last long enough to make it into SP Arena meta... She was just there for CP padding

[tropic summit]

needs 980k+ CP, i'd try to force them to offburst SWHA indom with a

noah moran biscuit helmt swha

if you can't hit the CP requirement just ignore this opponent

[arctic jewel]

I was just gonna say, seeing some of the Nikke choices is wild compared to what we use now

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it--k01KQVJZ4PG1NN3VW12ZKS40HAN

[arctic jewel]

I don't have either Isabel or Arcana built... I should just give up

[spiral onyx]

This was shortly after the very first banner dropped (Laplace I think it was). Priority at that time was building campaign clear units (e.g. Scarlet + Harran for AoE wipes) and Gravedigger units (e.g. SGs)

[tropic summit]

eh try this next one, this is a tad easier but worth a shot

[tropic summit]

zant is doing that score without isabel and arcana

[arctic jewel]

👀 👀 👀 👀

[quick lake]

pve go0n zant

[shell hazel]

one day I will defeat Zant and Railtracer

[arctic jewel]

Give me your teams, NOW

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon the evil is right behind you

[shell hazel]

I have a super basic isabel/arcana build no OL lol

[tropic summit]

super basic and yet casually scoring 7b+

[shell hazel]

I was 21 ish without em I guess

[arctic jewel]

Oh?

[shell hazel]

you can 7/7/7 isa 7/7/4 arcana with a R-15/SR-5 doll and do OK

it's mostly cycling more cindy rotations anyway

[arctic jewel]

I don't have any OL gear for either Isabel and Arcana, but I do have a Core 1 Isabel... maybe that's enough???

[shell hazel]

beats mine she is LB2

[arctic jewel]

But their skills are way weaker than yours

I believe both of them are 4/4/4

[quick lake]

isa doesnt need skills. only arcana

[arctic jewel]

Ait, good to know

[shell hazel]

Rail I got stuck here

[arctic jewel]

I'm just gonna do my ZZZ dailies and give SR a shot

[shell hazel]

reflector and several healing barbell things lol

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stay-away-coronavirus--k01KQVKBD6VNR89ZJQD84JA0362

[arctic jewel]

Before... ugh... I start debugging my stupid code

I sometimes hate being a programmer

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[tropic summit]

MF that's 42% deficit

just stahp

[shell hazel]

curious thing is....

my SPA rival apparently beat this at sync 541

I do not see them in the clears

skiperooni?

[tropic summit]

unless it wasn't clear enough, your rival is probably hackeroni

[arctic jewel]

👀

[shell hazel]

they cleared it in the last week, they'd need like 1.8M cp to escape the clears

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/futakana-lewd-anime-blush-shy-gif-17423467

[shell hazel]

at 541 - unlikely to have functional team at 1.8M cp

hence, hackeroni/skiperooni?

[arctic jewel]

I'm stuck at a Rapture stage in chapter 38

... those damn DVD logos...

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

open a ticket to support and get them to investigate

[glad meteor]

571 on 44, i need to push 🫃

[tropic summit]

time to reveal le hacks

[tropic summit]

don't take hippo as an example, he's just mad

[shell hazel]

eh I could but also they leaving me alone in SPA currently 😄

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[spiral onyx]

This was what the original PvP meta looked like. Noise + Privaty
https://youtu.be/GbB06aO2Qow

[glad meteor]

Back when noah biscuit was 4 rl

[shell hazel]

I may just sleep until 581 possibly 🙁

btw altruia looks doable at 601 with anis and giga builds

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/just-stay-where-you-are-steven-strait--k01KQVKBD6VNR89ZJQD84JA0362

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-flaming-funny-weird-fire-gif-12034199629700370082

[tropic summit]

i was almost able to clear it with f2p shiet, i expect dolphins/whels should

[shell hazel]

so then probably longer wait on 46 boss

[arctic jewel]

I don't know why, but seeing Snow White charging her Burst in PvP makes me laugh xD

[shell hazel]

almost completed nikke lmao

[glad meteor]

This was too old, i didn’t even know of this game then

[north brook]

Snow tech to oneshot god noise

[tropic summit]

we weren't even born back then

[glad meteor]

Right

[arctic jewel]

👶

[shell hazel]

back when keripo had opponents?

truly a golden era

[shell hazel]

damn 2022 😮

I only started playing late 2024

[spiral onyx]

It was on this day that I found my life long volunteer punching bad test dummy

[hollow lagoon]

He built arcana and Isabel he cheats

[arctic jewel]

[arctic jewel]

Not enough alcohol

[spiral onyx]

Speaking of alcohol, I made this earlier

[arctic jewel]

Noice.

[fickle furnace]

will do

thanks!!!!!

[olive charm]

haven't touched pvp in forever and i'm looking to update. Would appreciate the help

here's my box:

[tropic summit]

synchro 330 with chainsaw man units, you're screwed

where's anisTT btw?

[olive charm]

yeah i've played on and off

[tropic summit]

go roll her if you didn't yet, broken on all modes

[olive charm]

i do have her

ohh damn the box didn't show b1

[tropic summit]

• jackal nayuta cindy lib vestiTU
• moran noah biscuit swha helmT
• neonOS anisTT blanc sbs RRH

you need to build asap moranT, build up jackal, blanc, biscuit

finish privT treasure afterward

[torn briar]

then put privT in where sir

[olive charm]

i'm way too far away from Moran T in favorite items so will she work as is like that for now? i'm close to finishing privatyT tho prolly like a week to get her burst done

do all of them apart from the damage dealer need optimized OLs and maxed skills too?

looking at jackal, biscuit, noah mostly

cuz i don't think they have any use outside pvp at all

[tropic summit]

each pvp core utility unit needs at least R15-SR5 doll, 4/4/4 and 4OL gear

you're already bricked as is due to synchro difference, so you can take your time building them up or ignoring pvp altogether

with the teams above i'm already limiting the usage of your non utility oriented units to make semi-working teams

the least you could do is build up jackal, noah, biscuit and blanc

[olive charm]

i've honestly been doing the latter for a while now just claiming enough to buy the element modules , tho neon finally ate up my last remaining stash

where do i slot in PrivT when finished also

[tropic summit]

would need to change archetypes, the current ones are avoiding using too many utilities that would nuke your CP

[olive charm]

Moran is fine on this comp for now as regular moran or do i replace her with someone else like noise

[tropic summit]

in general privT fits with early pressure teams, especially nayuta-anisTT or anisTT-blanc

[torn briar]

anis TT is new anis star ?

[tropic summit]

every unit i gave you in the teams above are already fine as is

but you need to build them up asap to avoid tanking CP

your main problem for the rest of your account existance is gonna be CP

because you're sync gapped

[olive charm]

yeah on that topic actually do i just ignore rookie arena altogether cuz of that

oh and what would i be running on defense team?

[tropic summit]

rookie arena rewards are very simple, just hit w/e you can and stay rank 1-20 for all it matters

[olive charm]

w/e?

[tropic summit]

those are defense teams, attack is based on what you facing

[tropic summit]

whichever

[tropic summit]

privT fits with these archetypes:

• nayuta 2RL
• anisTT 2RL

she wants to burst fast and punish fast

[tropic summit]

yes new anis, anisOS, anis STAR

[torn briar]

can u give me the best meta sp arena team right now sir ? i have all nikke

[tropic summit]

@olive charm to give you further reference, all of these need to be invested asap

after those are done, get lappy treasured, so you gain 1 more clipRL

[olive charm]

oh i'm actualyl confused cuz i see p1 - p5 when i'm adjusting my squad formation and it doesn't seem like i am even able to place the asme nikke on p1 - p5

[fickle furnace]

those are just 5 preset teams you can make for your saved teams for attack

[brazen nova]

pls help a fellow man build a good team 😭
my team getting D2 everyday 😭

and i have rosana

[olive charm]

btw does the order matter? like do i just copy this or doesn't matter

[quick lake]

order matters, follow exactly

[gilded lantern]

I have no idea what to use for PvP and I have every single nikke available

Absolutely clueless

What would be a cool teamcomp for both pvp arenas?

[swift mango]

Yeah, Blanc alive and it doesn't work.

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

Is why my team 1 is so cancer to play

[olive charm]

alright thanks!!

[tropic summit]

refer to these:
#pvp-arena message

prefer 2RL nayuta, anisTT, vestiTU and SWHA teams

[tropic summit]

yes, in that order, positioning matters in pvp, for several reasons:

1. damage taken
2. burst oder
3. situational based on certain units

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT cindy helmT laplaceT
• jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit lib
• moran siren swha lib noah

Notes

• build up CP on vestiTU, biscuit, blanc
• build up privT

[tropic summit]

real maldin'

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT privT helmT laplaceT
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc lib
• moran siren swha mana noah

[delicate cove]

vro rail tracer ;-;

hear me out

by chance

perchance o.o

could you assist me with making pvp teams vro :3

im pretty new the teams dont have to be insane, atm i just clicked auto (my brackets are newbies too)

[tropic summit]

post your box or blabla link set to public and i can take a look

[delicate cove]

tysm vro i love you

i have centi and jackal wishlisted cus i heard they good in pvp

[tropic summit]

ye wishlist any of the units you don't have in the SSS tier, SS ideally aswell

[delicate cove]

on it o7

[glad meteor]

Rail tracer showing new peeps the way. Reject pve. Embrace pvp

[delicate cove]

i cant lie it feels great when u watch the battle n their units flop over 1 by one

[glad meteor]

We can’t all be shooting range mains

You like watching chibis ko

https://tenor.com/view/evil-spongebob-gif-6081957

[delicate cove]

one of the issues ive found with auto team maker tho (idk if it applies to pvp) is the bursts dont line up

[tropic summit]

Rookie

• swha anisTT soline:FT blanc drake

SP arena

• neonOS adeB volume drake anisOG
• anisTT blanc priv biscuit helm
• label crown swha leona soline:FT

[delicate cove]

holy shit vro u are thanos i hope ur pillow is cold

ill never forget u

[tropic summit]

they'll all ultimately open their eyes and become pve go0ns anyway

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

da way is pve main

pvp is just a temporary distraction

[glad meteor]

But first they must 17% cs every rl/sr

Then one day be cp gapped by bad bracket

[tropic summit]

it's like that cute blondie anime grill that starts hot, then you find out she's childhood friend and you realize she's gonna lose to the tsundere anyway

[glad meteor]

Then convert

[tropic summit]

sounds like someone talking from their own experience

[glad meteor]

That day is coming

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/it-is-not-this-day-not-today--k01KQVVEWTZE7T9PVQ1PP5JHHGY

[glad meteor]

Nah, its possible for the blonde/anime girl that starts hot to win. Whats that anime. Not married, just ???? Whatever

[shell hazel]

time to enact Karanapping plan

[delicate cove]

im watching skyjlvs nikke pvp mechanis vid rn

[tropic summit]

it's over @glad meteor , hippo gained the higher ground

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/akari-watanabe-more-than-a-married-couple-but-not-lovers-discord-banner-discord-pfp-discord-gif-gif-12897211861879851762

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/candy-gif-27189533

@hollow lagoon you block off the escape route

if Rail tries to stop us we nab him too (Railnapping)

[glad meteor]

Rail san will protect me

[shell hazel]

no he will be stolen as well

[tropic summit]

just play this in the background and you will beat anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYmsb26KNHM&list=RDvYmsb26KNHM&start_radio=1

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-9--k01KQVVRHAEAZH0HQATA1AXYRHT

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

you won't finish the game before i do

i hope

[shell hazel]

I don't think it will be possible too much sync needed

what can you sync to now?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sigh-new-game--k01KQVVY5E6CY84GB4AJ0FYVFER

[tropic summit]

608, once HM part 2 releases of the current event prolly 610 and i feel like i may have a chance to clear then

and then i'm pushing all the way to that MF at 46

[glad meteor]

How you so close to me

[tropic summit]

where are you anyway

[glad meteor]

Like 613

[quick lake]

Big 600s

[tropic summit]

better watch your back

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

I won’t

[tropic summit]

then i shall claim your buttcheeks

unprotected kara shall be mine

[glad meteor]

No where safe

[tropic summit]

meanwhile my casual star saviour union going through wild changes

if they keep leaving i'll inherit it

[gilded lantern]

Ay thx, didnt realize that was there

[hollow lagoon]

come to me already

[tropic summit]

do you even have spots in your union anyway, isn't it full

[hollow lagoon]

yes

we have people not up to standard and wish to go to the casual branch

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/weakness-disgusts-me-senju--k01KQVWRPQYXHA54K0XXBYM9NZK

when's next UR?

@hollow lagoon if i leave now and join yours am I in time for next UR?

[hollow lagoon]

you would be?

its prob 1-2 weeks afterererer solo raid

[tropic summit]

i'll speak with ma union lead

[shell hazel]

Railnapping go!

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon @shell hazel union lead is offline atm, i'll let you know once i've confirmed with him

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

gonna dm you @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

Uhh

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/let-me-in-eric-andre-3--k01KQVYDBVWE7Z2ZDKJ34NWSDG3

[shell hazel]

we'll sort 🙂

[lost ether]

any1 know how the cs rounding work on neon?

[tropic summit]

hmm forgot to add siren, remove biscuit for siren and show again

we then gotta fix positioning

moran helmt swha siren noah

and just realized we won't need moran

noah helmt biscuit swha siren

[severe tundra]

Power dif is about the same.
-# Positioning is wrong

[tropic summit]

hmm might work but p2 and p3 gonna take quite some punishment, thinking if we should take the slow cindy approach instead

meh give it a shot and we'll see

noah tempering
helmt tempering
swha tempering
biscuit vigor
siren any

record if you can so we can benchmark their DPS

if it doesn't work out it will be blanc anisTT swha biscuit siren

[willow thicket]

I just used the teams from the pinned message on this channel.

[glad meteor]

P2-3 could get cooked by anis + vesti

[tropic summit]

anisTT makes everything more annoying

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

the good thing the barrage lands before she B1s at least

if it doesn't...

[severe tundra]

My tempering cubes not so hot

I might take earlier advice and skip fighting this guy

[tropic summit]

hmm there's another approach although again risky, it would be killing blanc in p2

[severe tundra]

I dont think I have the dps for it

But go on...

[tropic summit]

needs scarlet vestiTU laplaceT/emilia

scarlet laplaceT vestiTU trina anisTT

[severe tundra]

My Laplace is 1☆ and no Emilia lol

[tropic summit]

[severe tundra]

[tropic summit]

scarlet vestiTU and anisTT alone prolly enough

but still risky so up to you

[severe tundra]

Wouldn't scarlet need to burst before blanc

[tropic summit]

no scarlet is there to procc s2 on blanc

blanc sudoku's on scarlet

[severe tundra]

I see what you mean by risk now lol

[plucky glen]

i just pull scarlet is she good in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Which scarlet

[plucky glen]

the scarlet

not the black one

[hollow lagoon]

She good ish?

[tropic summit]

it's basically a speedrun to:

• you kill their B2
• they kill your p1-p2-p3

[plucky glen]

whats good ish mean, im bad in english

[tropic summit]

as long as you kill p2, they're done

[hollow lagoon]

Depends who you ask , general consensus is she’s alright, I use her to kill her self to proc death effects

She gets run for champ arena

Normal arenas we have way more developed stuff now days

She’s also good to gate keep people lower cp than you via counter

[plucky glen]

i am the one with lower cp tho

this is what im using atm

[hollow lagoon]

Ur not replacing anyone

[plucky glen]

alrighty

[tropic summit]

oh those are teams i gave you, stick with those aint needing scarlet in there

[hollow lagoon]

Scarlet require you to know what ur opponent is doing

[plucky glen]

they work real good ngl 💔 be4 i just do auto for highest cp

[hollow lagoon]

Basically ur opponent need to have loop hole for u to nuke in 2rl

Or get countered to deth

[plucky glen]

sounds not like a thing im going to understand soon

[hollow lagoon]

Or u sacrifice scarlet to feed rosana

[hollow lagoon]

In short if ur new u don’t invest her unless ur literal PvP junkie

[plucky glen]

alrighty

tks awot ❤️

[glad meteor]

[plucky glen]

does the cube usage change for pve and pvp

[glad meteor]

Pretty much for minmaxing, some comps benefit a lot, some less

[tropic summit]

pve will mostly not need quantum or vigor, but tempering/bastion/resil/destruction

pvp will use quantum, vigor and tempering more often than the others

[plucky glen]

is there a sheet for cube

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-freddy-fazbear-fnaf-surprise-bear-gif-10797545912537514262

[tropic summit]

it's not difficult, you put tempering on units exposed to damage or your main B3

quantum on batteries or if you need to hit thresholds and vigor on healers or indom priorities

it comes naturally to when you form teams

if you don't know what you doing don't bother and just run w/e cube

[plucky glen]

is there a big difference btwen with and wthout cube?

[tropic summit]

depends on the lineup, for example quantum can turn a team that would be naturally 3RL to 2RL

vigor can help you get the right target indommed

tempering can decide if you die or live pre burst

adjutant can decide if you hit enough CS% or not on a unit in a certain scenario

it's situational on what you need in that lineup

this is stuff you learn once you become more familiar with pvp anyway

[candid pawn]

hey guys, im 6 months into the game, can someone please help me with pvp?

Im currently running:
Nero - biscuit - vestiTU - anisS - helmT
Jackal - Noah - Liber - NeonVE - SWHA
last team is just random nikkes

[plucky glen]

elite ball knowledge

[remote thunder]

Holy p2w newbie
Uhhh not a newbie
Your sync is 30 levels higher than me

[ancient sun]

Does anyone know what immobilize do in PvP (if anything at all)?

[plucky glen]

definitely

im thriving in 250s

[candid pawn]

bruh im 6 months man, wdym im not a newbie, well i feel like im a newbie in pvp 😭

[plucky glen]

btw try this

idk if u have those

[remote thunder]

Cuz I am a newbie as well

[remote thunder]

Can you link to the original message? Idk how to use them in dis

Is she useful? @tropic summit

[candid pawn]

is there a substitution for drankT, I have no resource to build her now

[plucky glen]

.

[raven plover]

the goat

[plucky glen]

erm idk

its railtracer suggestion

u can ask railtracer for more in4

[remote thunder]

Can I refine this lineup with possibly Rossana Nero and Noise?

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT privT lib trina
• jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit neonS
• moran helmt swha rrh noah

[candid pawn]

holy goat

[remote thunder]

@tropic summit Is this good?

[tropic summit]

she is but expensive to build, focus on your other priorities until you've leeway to build this one

[remote thunder]

Or do I need Noah/Blanc to upgrade?

[remote thunder]

Ok and for example...?

[raven plover]

rosanna nero is high invest units to be a good one, dont bother investing just invest your pve first

[remote thunder]

O..k

[tropic summit]

all of the SSS tier ranked, for starters

[quick lake]

wouldn’t really touch pvp that much at that sync

[tropic summit]

indeed, campaign takes priority

progression above everything else until you've leeway to build pvp side

[tame vessel]

Hi guys

[heavy geode]

What is SP arena?

[heavy geode]

Oh I'm a dum2x my bad 😭

[raven flume]

Sleeping Moon indeed

[austere marsh]

Is Blanc good against Anis even with the rng stars?

[dim shuttle]

Hey @tropic summit, I've been meaning to ask, what would be your go to for SPA Defense teams assuming you had everyone you wanted invested into?

[heavy geode]

Anyways, I forgot to implement teams when I passed by a couple months ago and with the new metas I want to change stuff up. Can I ask for help on them?

Here's my entire roster:

My SP Arena Team both offence and defence:

And the rookie arena thing:

[heady peak]

this is my defense on rookie... what's it's glaring defensive problem?

[tame vessel]

[tropic summit]

try switch it to

• anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha

moranT gets shredded by anisTT comps, unless you running the nero moran stall

additionally you're not really using anisTT in that comp, she's offburst buffing

[fathom sparrow]

Anyone want to help me fix my SP Arena teams if i link my Blabla?

[heady peak]

so helmt is bursting? not swha?

so it's a comp that is more about sustaining

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit help pls

[tardy bone]

Which team is better to use anis in?

I have all the units except for Emilia

[thorny sequoia]

@tropic summit hello kind sir MR PVP GOD

Can you please give me a hard counter to this team?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH PVP GOD!! 🙏🙏🙏🫡

PRAISE BE! 🪽🙏🪽

[oak smelt]

This team looks very juicy for Rosa, is your Rosa lines good enough to snipe it at b1?

[thorny sequoia]

Unfortunately I don't have her built 🙃🫠

[swift mango]

best anis team.

@mystic rain could you send me your bracket champ guy teams?

@hollow lagoon could you send me your champ guy's teams?

can you send me your bracket champ guy's screenshot of 5 teams ? thank you. 🙏

[swift mango]

thank you

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

oh you are same bracket with Rail now.

[swift mango]

could you send me 5 teams of your bracket champ guys. Thank you.

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t belong here

[swift mango]

@glad meteor team to remember thank u.

If same CA as Rail them nvm.

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sad-gif-10692536301102666475

[swift mango]

now the alt win

@lunar pawn
@lone sequoia
did keripo win last season? could you send 5 teams of the champ guy?

I don't think he does his CA video anymore. probably tired of it.

[lone rapids]

@tropic summit need new sp def teams

[swift mango]

thanks

[lunar pawn]

Didn't, think he lost at top 32 or top 16, I don't think he even touched his teams since 2 seasons ago

[swift mango]

I see, please send me the champ guy team if it's convenient

[lunar pawn]

When I'm home and if I remember

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

• nayuta anisTT helmt emilia drakeT
• jackal vestiTU ada blanc laplaceT
• moran noah biscuit swha lib

[tropic summit]

this one has a very specific counter that i don't know if you can run, it needs a rosanna linked and invested

• rosanna jackal blanc helmt swoha

alternatively less consistent but may work

• anisTT blanc biscuit cindy swha

if it's rookie just ignore that team

[thorny sequoia]

Oh it's just rookie, I go back and forth with this guy and I need to beat him lol

[swift mango]

Okay you aren't same bracket was rail, my bad

[tropic summit]

T1

• noah anisTT privT biscuit helmT
  T3
• swha blanc rh centi jackal (tempering on SWHA)
  or
• jackal blanc vestiTU ada laplaceT (check links, you know what to do, ada is optional else flex it)

[tropic summit]

ye it prefers sustain for trading after shields/invul. goes off

[swift mango]

hi mate, may I trouble you to screenshot 5 team of the winner of your CA?

[tropic summit]

they just fit different scenarios, it depends on the context

if it's CA anything works, it's RNG what it faces
if it's rookie/SP, focus on speed and indom/invul

[thorny sequoia]

Ok give me a minute

[tropic summit]

this one in my bracket has given me the most defense wins

[swift mango]

@wind kelp Are you still saving champ guy teams this season?

[tulip quest]

Guillotine

https://tenor.com/view/guillotine-nikke-nikke-guillotine-da-maphisto-gif-5317040206594979970

I don't have Ein my Isabel sucks

and she's free and built

[swift mango]

[tulip quest]

Gotta summon the dragon

[thorny sequoia]

This guy is a monster. He's been winning like 75% of all the CA grand finals. The only guy he lost to was the other guy with the Alice avatar in Grand Finals

[swift mango]

Thanks you

[swift mango]

NA right?

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT privT biscuit laplaceT
• moran noise helmt swha noah
• jackal scarlet cindy blanc lib

Notes

• build up vestiTU and SWHA asap, build up ada afterward
• treasure moran if didn't yet

[thorny sequoia]

Yes correct, NA

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t build arcana Isabel

[tulip quest]

you have Label ady

[hollow lagoon]

label for dis raid?

[tulip quest]

oh right I forgot

[tulip quest]

I guess the delusional girl this raid goes to Guillotine

[hollow lagoon]

dillusional?

[tulip quest]

wrong spelling brotha

[hollow lagoon]

nah man, i'm full on insanity

[tulip quest]

25b? gg

[hollow lagoon]

how did u find out

[dim cedar]

Alright champs and champettes. I humbly beseech you all to give me the best general use sp and rookie arena teams because I am getting tired of being farmed and having to fight tooth and nail to maintain my rank every season. Highlighting all the ones I have built the most. I have every Nikke except Except Emilia and most of the important cubes including quantum are at 10+

[tulip quest]

mental math?

[wind kelp]

Yup! Just need to gather it all up 😄 Maybe tomorrow morning, if i remember XD

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

might be 26b

those are insane cores aaaaa

my anis not even mlb

what's the ELE count?

Neon n Anis

[warm monolith]

Okay, thanks

[quick lake]

@swift mango

[warm monolith]

T1 lost but my handmade t2 won

[tulip quest]

that's kinda amazing considering those low ELE count WP

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

Im at 16.5 bil and currently on 1.9% would i stay at top 3%?

[hollow lagoon]

i dont think so

[tropic summit]

nice

[tropic summit]

yes but why not top 50

[hollow lagoon]

i need 5 ele rolls

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kolow--k01KQWEGZGQQVQWNRT776FWVTRV

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

Teams?

[fathom sparrow]

Anyone want to help me fix my SP Arena Teams? I kinda threw them together.

Blabla - https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjQ4OTc2Njg2MTcyMDI2Njg3Mw%3D%3D

[hollow lagoon]

maybe vesti over that sanis

[tropic summit]

your blabla link is set to private, can't see shiet

unlock it and i can take a look

[umbral crown]

[fathom sparrow]

Crap, gotta find where to do that

[swift mango]

thank you

[swift mango]

Well, just send me the pic I would merge them for u.

[wary wraith]

wth this guy went rampage on me just because he lost to me a few times in rookie arena on his own, when i didn't even hit him a single time?!?!

[umbral crown]

Its about sending a message

[fathom sparrow]

Got it

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjQ4OTc2Njg2MTcyMDI2Njg3Mw%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

waste of gems, let them, fragile ego

[umbral crown]

I ser you did the thing

[tropic summit]

ye works taking a look

[umbral crown]

[sand canopy]

https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTU5NjUyNzQ2Mjc2NDUzNzc2MzE= what is a good PVP team for my F2P account?

[wind kelp]

There's 11 of them :p I'll try and get the set tomorrow

[wary wraith]

what message, i stopped messing with him since 1-2 years ago cos i already knew he's a crazy dude

i just want to take 2nd place peacefully, and he just ruined my plan for no reason other than his own ego

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmT anisTT drakeT
• jackal scarlet xmaiden blanc lib
• moran siren swha noah biscuit

Notes

• build/wishlist vestiTU
• build/wishlist privT
• finish building lappy and treasure her if you didn't yet

[umbral crown]

The messsge: i can hit you all the time i want, you know

[wary wraith]

he didn't need to, cos i already knew it since 2 years ago

[umbral crown]

Just a reminder uwu

[wary wraith]

it's fine, he's happy to do what he wants, wasting all those gems for all i care

just leave me alone ffs

[umbral crown]

He thought: instead of spending gems in 1% banner to get nothing, i better soend them in pvp and get knowldge

[fathom sparrow]

Huge thank you! I appreciate the help

[umbral crown]

[raven flume]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT helmT doroS lib
• jackal cindy vestiTU anchorIM s.anis
• neonOS siren swha drakeT noah

Notes

• build moran, noise, lappy and priv
• get moranT asap, then privT then laplaceT

[undone blaze]

I don't get how my 2RL teams are losing to 3RL

I assume those are the same teams he runs on attack, this is not my def, just something new I wanted to tryout

[tropic summit]

what is it that you don't understand? the game is heavily skewed to the attackers, your def shouldn't even win in the first place

[north brook]

Running sg into jackal gives them 1rl btw

[tropic summit]

before anisTT it was already essentially impossible winning def, now attackers have access to even more broken x2 teams

[undone blaze]

I have a few successful defs

[slender grove]

Counters to this SA team?

[undone blaze]

That team is my throwaway, its not winning regardless

[undone blaze]

Surely the meta should be different in my bracket, since people shouldn't really know what they're doing compard to 2-3+ year old accounts

[north brook]

At lower level units are more paper so its harder

Unless u have significant level advantage

The most resilient defense teams are all stall or semi stall but anis breaks everything

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left

• teams are assumed not in deficit penalty (multiply enemy teams CP for 0.846, the team that is facing them needs to be higher than that value)
• anis in T1 is anisTT

[north brook]

Tbh im surprised ive not lost my def in sp yet

[dim cedar]

Can I get some help making my sp arena teams?
Here are my Nikkes https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjI3OTU1OTQ5NDE3NTYyNTY1Ng%3D%3D

[lament swallow]

What's a good team i can make plz

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT privT lib helmT
• moran noise siren swha noah
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc laplaceT

[tropic summit]

synchro 311 with chainsawm man collab, you took breaks ye?

[jagged current]

@tropic summit , I'm building a defense team here, and was hoping to use Moran and T.T. Anis on the same team. Which units usually go well with these two?

[glad meteor]

Ah yeah

[minor egret]

I dominate my rookie arena with a Moran Noah Helm SWHA Siren but I want to let Anis have some fun so give me the most stupid def comps using her (I don't have Nero build)

I imagine it's some Blanc Biscuit

[jagged current]

That's what I'm aiming for as well. 😄

[dim cedar]

Thank you! My quantum cube is at level 10, should I not be using it for faster burst gen or is bastion/resillience good enough

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• anisTT crown priv biscuit laplaceT
• scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
• moran noah cindy centi drake

Notes

• wishlist/build SWHA, vestiTU
• get helm treasured, get moran treasured
• build up utilities (jackal, blanc, biscuit, noah)

[minor egret]

I'm not sure about using Moran with Anis if no Nero in my case and I want her to punch them like Yoyo

[tropic summit]

nayuta any
anisTT quantum
privT tempering
lib any
helmt any

moran tempering
noise vigor
siren any
swha tempering
noah tempering

jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering/any
xmaiden quantum
blanc vigor/any
laplaceT quantum

[lament swallow]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

you actually ideally want to split anisTT and moran, they're best splitted than combined

anisTT doesn't like re-enter and moran wants to be fast enough to get DR up asap

the only exception is a CA team that did sort of good, but it's because it's CA

anisTT nero helmt biscuit moran

[minor egret]

I think we wanted a rookie team with Anis

[jagged current]

Alright, I'll try to keep them separate. Thanks, Rail. o7

[minor egret]

Anis re-enter is such a meme

They could have at least gave her cdr

That would have been useful in raids

[glad meteor]

@swift mango

[tropic summit]

SP arena teams with extra steps

[lone sequoia]

not sure, i think he lost, didn't pay attention to CA all my cheers went to highest % and i think people suck at deciding who will win

[twilit bay]

Can I improve/change these teams to be stronger? My opponent broke through them without much effort

[oak hatch]

Surprised they didn’t run Rosanna, guess anything would work when u have all max cores

[tropic summit]

they got used to your archetypes, you gotta change them up

try these next:

• anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit emilia
• moran noah biscuit helmt swha
• jackal scarlet ada blanc laplaceT

[lavish lintel]

Thonk

[tropic summit]

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT

[twilit bay]

Thank you, I'll try them out.
So the old teams were ok, but my opponent just figured out how to beat them?

[tropic summit]

need 1468k+ CP btw

[tropic summit]

no defense is eternal, they all got countered

the more skilled your opponent, the more likely he'll use the right counter at the first shot

[tropic summit]

CP looks good, how's your vestiTU OLs?

[lavish lintel]

decent ig

[tropic summit]

oke you've got 0 ammo, don't run indom vesti

[twilit bay]

Wait just realised, there are two Blancs lol

[lavish lintel]

Shi...

[tropic summit]

blanc in T3 is trina my bad
T2 is moran siren helmt noah swha

[lone sequoia]

2 biscuits

[shell hazel]

2 nayutas

[lone sequoia]

blabla OL section is a thing

[shell hazel]

wait 2 nayutas is normal

[lavish lintel]

blabla?

[tropic summit]

there was a thousand of nayuta

[lone sequoia]

||at least 1 corrupted||

where is the link to blabla? i only use the web browser

[tropic summit]

swha blanc anisTT biscuit jackal, need to check if your blanc or biscuit are linked tho, you can do that in shooting range
then ensure whoever is linked has more HP than SWHA and you're good to go (vigor)

[lone sequoia]

blablalink.com

[lavish lintel]

Ishud really start using the blabla app

[tropic summit]

there are a few convinient things in there

[glacial haven]

How cooked I am?

[tropic summit]

the one against enemy siren you're getting moran stunned

the other one 2 water codes against scarlet and rosanna is asking a lot

[heavy geode]

Thank you fam. The SWHA is a bit well raised, my vesti2 is not and Ada is just barely raised.
MoranT is already acquired but her substats sucks a bit currently.

[glacial haven]

Agreed.

[tropic summit]

T1 is very slow and can be abused by liberalio 2RL or 2.5RL
T2 any anti nuke

that said:

T1:

• nayuta trina lib swha anisTT

T2:

• noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani

[limber hound]

Does anyone have any good teams that can counter this?
I have all characters

[glacial haven]

Hmm. Will try it out. His T3 is very abusive and expensive, so im leaving them out.

[heavy geode]

Oh is this for attack or defense?

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left

T2 anis is anisTT
centi in T3 is trina

[tropic summit]

attack is based on what you facing and are made on the spot, if you don't know what you doing run them for both

[tropic summit]

ye that's a good choice, the other 2 are far weaker

[gaunt pulsar]

ran it today against 2 different dudes(one was as from video) that use the same team, in both cases forced bisc to get indommed and won, though she ain't full sr15 for both

[heavy geode]

Got it. I was confused cause I remember someone talking to me about positioning stuff differ & changes the condition of winning if your attacking or defending.

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit Praise be.....

[tropic summit]

oh that's good to know

more actual counters for those lineups

[tropic summit]

units are from left to right as you see them during selection screen, their positions are reversed only upon entering battle

[glacial haven]

Honestly.. This guy... Everyday he changes his comps....

[heavy geode]

Thanks

[tropic summit]

you can win that too

[glacial haven]

Let me try to cook something first. I want to see if my though process is right.

[upper grove]

@tropic summit will join you on altruia soon

[scarlet adder]

what can i use in nikke top as neon substitue?

[tropic summit]

ye come suffer with me

[tropic summit]

SBS is near same burst gen

[gaunt pulsar]

yea, from video looks like rosa kills helm and swha before my swha does 2nd shot, so bisc eats it instead and due to not being full invest catches indom instead still i think even if they get anis correctly indommed it's swha shot spam versus anis rl shots pretty good considering i'm on faster indom still

[scarlet adder]

thoughts?

[tropic summit]

should be a win in both, although the cindy team is a tad on the riskier side

[scarlet adder]

🥂

[tidal lichen]

core4 snow

[tidal lichen]

i need to test zweit snow on only one.

[upper grove]

dmg wise it was overkill, but the behemoth 2nd QTE made me lvl to 581; I already killed the tentacle at 575 but my only margin of error was 1 dot tick, doro survived with 2 ticks at 581

[tidal lichen]

i still have a long while till i reach 581

[upper grove]

maybe even more broken units release by then

for only one

the easiest way for me would be just to use helm instead of privT at 1.7m cp and heal during each behemoth QTE instead

[oblique gyro]

hello buddy, i see we have exact same damage on SR for now, it made me feel really happy to see us that close, do you intend to re-hit ?

[tidal lichen]

[river dune]

I need help with a team

[tropic summit]

better not be another of those anisTT blanc biscuit shiets

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit How wrong I am?

[river dune]

I intent to troll them at the last minute and gain diaz 3 or higher

This one?

[glacial haven]

My brain isn't braining today

[river dune]

Happens man

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left

all of those matchups are not optimal

(jackal link into nayuta, jackal-less fire code in p2 against water code + early pressure, cindy against a cindy stall + midhara...)

[glacial haven]

Man, do a lap around Nürburgring is easier to build teams for Pvp for me.

[tropic summit]

• T1 is too slow, use burst gen calculator, enemy is going to be 2RL via feed on p1 (that's a very likely moran linked p1)
• very odd team, risky if you don't kill enemy p2, i wouldn't pick risks
• again risky, you're letting them burst and this is a team you'd rather skip, yet you using your best units here (blanc jackal biscuit)

overall: i wouldn't run these

[river dune]

Most of the time I don't give that much of a importance on my placement as long as I am 1 to 40 but nowadays I need those gems , Anis and Neon took them all

[river dune]

Then which teams?

He's stuff looks like they could be easily beaten

[tropic summit]

run these you're on the left

[river dune]

Any specific cubes or?

[tropic summit]

if your lib is pepega on atk% sub rumani for anisTT and place centi in T2 p4

and if your vestiTU is low on ammo% replace vestiTU with SWHA

[slender mesa]

@tropic summit this still managed to fail this time T_T I will clip next time

[tropic summit]

yeah i don't think it's going to be consistent

[versed mesa]

All my units are pepega on atk%. Except VestiTU. She ate all the attack

[slender mesa]

I hate this new meta

[tropic summit]

honestly you're best ignoring those rookie teams

[river dune]

It is rather annoying trend

New unit comes and destroy PvP

[glacial haven]

Just a note. T1 and T3 hasboth Centi. I swapped Centi to Trina on T3. It's ok?

[tropic summit]

you're learning, they're both clipRL, that is indeed assumed

[hard raptor]

anyone know who he is, i want to know

[river dune]

The Anis one is the OS one ?

[tropic summit]

these questions frighten me

[river dune]

[tropic summit]

look at that lineup and think what happens if you run anisOG

[river dune]

I mean you always specify and this time you didn't so I was surprised to say the least

[slender mesa]

@tropic summit at this point I wonder if I have to not use Snow heavy arms due to Anis

[tropic summit]

sometimes i hope people actually put a tad of their brain

yes, it's anisTT

[versed mesa]

Og Anis has basically no use except CA and newer players with less options

[glacial haven]

PRAISE BE....

[river dune]

How's OS Neon? Is she good PvP wise?

[tropic summit]

garbo

[river dune]

I think a lot of player actually used her for some time for the burst regen

[tropic summit]

needed quantum on T3 but oh well, rest worked

[versed mesa]

Btw it's so silly how her burst animation is firing this massive nuke, but in gameplay she just fires slightly chunkier looking rockets

[versed mesa]

That is what I mean, so many more options now

[tropic summit]

would be too expensive to do it in battle, let alone the effects

silly indie game doesn't have the resources for that

[glacial haven]

You know? It has Quantum cube.

[tropic summit]

best we can do is give you another lewd skin

[tropic summit]

on anisTT and trina?

[glacial haven]

All my Betteries has Quantum.

Yep...

[tropic summit]

ah it's cindy denying lib burst gen proccs

[glacial haven]

Hell.. Even Lib has Quantum

[tropic summit]

it's fine just cindy p5

anchor needed to go for a higher burst gen to make up for lib denied on p5, good to know

decoy doesn't let lib procc so less burst gen income, and that's what you were missing

if he keeps same lineup we adjust to

anisTT biscuit lib trina bsoda/drakeT/emilia/lappy

[glacial haven]

https://tenor.com/view/abiotic-factor-the-science-team-gif-5832067144681170672

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[autumn stream]

Does privaty skill 1 still work if she dies in arena?

[tidal lichen]

if dies after burst yes

[glacial haven]

But seriously... Many thanks for the patience and time for helping me out, once again.

[shell hazel]

sasuga Rail!

[tropic summit]

as long as you're learning it's all time well spent

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/learning-learnding-funny-the-simpsons-dumb-gif-5270072

[glacial haven]

This CA scramble really, really screwed me over. But it didn't sucked that much since you guys are always here, available to help others out.

[river dune]

I mean gameplay and lore are always different

@tropic summit

Now if only no one attacks

[river dune]

Vesti won by the skin of her teeth

[tropic summit]

but damn dia3, you took breaks and got heavily CP gapped?

or slacked progression?

[river dune]

I mean everyone here in this batch are like whales

[tropic summit]

[river dune]

It's one of those worse batches

[tidal lichen]

top10 is always f2p friendly unless youre the chosen one

[cedar sorrel]

My first time actually finishing top 10 and getting the 2400 gems

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit you saved me from top 30 thank you man

[versed mesa]

Nayuta summons a large hand from the sky in burst skill, gamefield gets a hand falling from the sky animation. AnisTT summons stars to attack, the field gets a starry sky effect while she shoots stars.

[river dune]

Yeah but this type of stuff isn't always true

[slender mesa]

@tropic summit
I did a thread in the Feedback megathread about Anis in defending teams, for all the good it might do, just to vent https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1501313948501147760
Feel free if you feel like it to give your more expert opinion

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-deer-friend-nokotan-bully-maguire--k01KQWW01FVSYBAQNXPVG4A8AAS

[versed mesa]

Would make more sense for Neon since a nuke is just a nuke, one quick large explosion particle effect on the field is not hard to make.

[river dune]

Consistently only the pilgrims have been accurate and even then it's mainly lore and PvE rather than PvP,OS makes the other three manus the same thing for PvE and lore but pvp is a different story altogether

[tropic summit]

the way i see it, rookie isn't important enough to bother, but i appreciate you trying

[slender mesa]

I have not done the math to see if the resources we get from rookie are important or not

[tropic summit]

they're not, don't worry

we've equally surplus of arena resources (coins)

[slender mesa]

well if I go nuts and buy all the elemental card things I will start having less

[tropic summit]

don't need to, just stack up on the boxes

[tidal lichen]

which team are you talking about

[slender mesa]

I spend thousands of electric code things this half ani

[frank ingot]

I have almost 800k of arena coin

[river dune]

You know there are sometimes inconsistentcy with the gems given

Challenger 1 to Diaz 3 have always been 2k or sum such Diaz 4 has always been 1.6k

[slender mesa]

Anis TT, Blank/Noah, Biscuit, SnowHA,Flex

[river dune]

But I got 1.6k while being in Diaz 3

And sometimes in Diaz 4 I get 2k

[tidal lichen]

nuke + blanc it

with snipers

[river dune]

Rather I used to when I was just happy with Diaz 4

[lone sequoia]

they are... but it doesn't matter

if you are low on element mats you can just use some from the boxes you get every event

[slender mesa]

Railtracer helped me as much as I could be helped with that, the outcome is still uncertain based on RNG
It did not used to be that way

[tidal lichen]

what rng

bisc not triggering sometimes due to crit?

[lone sequoia]

is interestingg to see that my ein is just better than neon in missilis tower

[slender mesa]

something taking out the unit meant to get indom early, probably anis

[tidal lichen]

were you using snow indom or smth

what teams did you run

[slender mesa]

yes like Railtracer recomended

[tidal lichen]

thats just normal no?

snow is water, anis slaughters snow

[slender mesa]

What would you substitute Snow with

Vesti?

[tidal lichen]

no vesti would trigger bisc on blanc

[ancient walrus]

Just had a crazy fight with another guy for 3rd place, turned into an ego battle too see who has bigger D.
I ended up burning around 10k gems xd
Never ever again.

[lone sequoia]

baited by the system

[tidal lichen]

vesti actually works ig

2.5rl vesti the blanc version

something like this

[slender mesa]

this is the team I was fighting

[tidal lichen]

this still works against that

swap drake with helm

[slender mesa]

there is no drake here

[tidal lichen]

.

[slender mesa]

ah nm

<= stupid

[tidal lichen]

it's not guarranteed but i think it will work

[slender mesa]

the one I am already using works like 50% of the time

depending on if the indom goes to snow

[tidal lichen]

you could also stall it

is your nero ol'd

[slender mesa]

nope and my rocks are rock bottom thanks to anis and Neon

[strange linden]

I'm back to CA since the last bracket, I need CA teams please

[gritty ridge]

Now its just noah that needs a bit more

[cobalt garden]

can anyone help me put together a good pvp team? i keep losing to players with 10k less power than me constantly and im getting frustrated. im still in the early game as a new player but it seems everyone is just beating me.

[finite scarab]

on spa reset, are u placed based on previous season rank or point rank?

[gritty ridge]

Point

[cosmic sedge]

How do I know what team is best or better? Picking teams from the pins

[tropic summit]

the ones that are hardest to beat are the "best" teams when it comes for defense
the ones that are the most effective based on what you facing are the "best" teams when it comes for attack

for reference, when it comes to defense teams, try building those that have multiple of these

[tropic summit]

at synchro 120 it's all about CP, don't bother with pvp just yet, focus on progression and getting past lvl 160

[cobalt garden]

if its about CP only then how come im losing to teams with 75-80k cp when my team is at 92k cp?

[tropic summit]

running campaign/CP padded teams against meta teams without penalty advantage generally leads to losing

[cobalt garden]

ah i see

[tropic summit]

you've to strike the right balance between CP and meta

opponent probably just got luckier than you with good starting units or is whale/dolphin

don't worry about not doing too hot on pvp early on, but focus getting past lvl 160

don't slack in campaign and progression

[tropic summit]

for rookie run

anisTT crown vestiTU biscuit neon for the time being

[cobalt garden]

this is what im using atm, im guessing the new neon is really bad at pvp? because her and anis are my two most stacked units gear and skill wise

[tropic summit]

your only B1 is in p1, the most exposed position, no wonder you losing

run the team above for rookie, it gives your p1 biscuit protection

[cobalt garden]

ahhh gotcha! ty

[tropic summit]

neon is also a weaker burst option over vestiTU

she can work as CP pad and flex option, but not as main B3

[cobalt garden]

ok

[tropic summit]

for SP arena, run these 2 and an auto team for now

in wishlist for pvp ensure you've all the SSS ranked units (minus collab limited ones ofc)

anis in T1 is anisTT, anis in T2 is OGanis btw

[cobalt garden]

so waitm, im confused, you said my burst 1 anis is too expposed in position one but your team recommendation has her in poisiton 1

[tropic summit]

yes because she's biscuit locked

[cobalt garden]

ohhh

[tropic summit]

biscuit gives your defender units invulnerability once they drop a certain HP

[cobalt garden]

i never looked what bicsuit does

[tropic summit]

that makes your p1 resistant

[cobalt garden]

understood

[tropic summit]

here's biscuit in action on a noah p1

[cobalt garden]

ill definitely start putting some gear and skill points into buiscut

[tropic summit]

no, build your pve first

campaign and progression first, biscuit is exclusively pvp

in your case anisTT and crown are your n1 priority, followed by decent B3s, from what i see there's neonOS, vestiTU and cindy available, SBS being also your wind code option down the line

[cobalt garden]

oh i am, dont you worry, my anis, neon and crown are fully invested in

[tropic summit]

get help from #team-building and #questions for recommendation on what unit to prioritize for progression, arguably your first 160-200 synchro levels are the most important

[noble python]

Hai Rail

I have come seeking new teams since I now have my AnisTT at a pretty good position

[cosmic sedge]

is their a guide to identify these im totally new to this

[tropic summit]

post le box

[tropic summit]

1. basics:
   https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

2. per unit overview:
   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit

burst gen calc:
https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

start with 1 then 2, then you can look at these teams to find one that matches your invested units:
#pvp-arena message

[summer copper]

what team should consistently beat this? i beat it once but then lost twice

[noble python]

My friend that’s a whale

[summer copper]

yes but he's still beatable

just have to figure out the puzzle

[tidal lichen]

pvp sucks.

[tropic summit]

run these for now

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko--k01KQWZG4V0Z103CVJFQDHHPEJY

[tropic summit]

come date waifus on NTE

[tidal lichen]

the intro kinda