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maybe it's just in time, there's only 1 frame diff between re-enter Moran and Helm B3

even at 20 cs there is exact 3 frame diff between Helm B3 and re-enter Moran, I guess it's coinflip whether it's taunted 
but I did not expect triple quantum to add that much speed
I am still fairly sure SWHA dies before Blanc can cast B2 though with how much delay re-enter has as long as Anis ele dmg high enough
cuz the Moran dmg reduc is doing jack against Blanc
and without FB mod you just lose to Helm heal
Gonna record the fight soon
you don't want p3 shwa against 1b1 tt
plan worked @frigid tundra
he attacked 6th 
it's not my team order 
I was just using it to show example of re-enter delayy
and how weak it is to Anis splash shot + star before Blanc can cast B2
re-enter is bad for water units, tt can just kill them during chain
thanks for sharing our teams
for sg team i burst doro first
even tho i place second
will give them a run later, ty
gotta get up to date with wuwa now
and still on the fence whether to drop my f2p status in nikke 
consistent is better here anyway
no arcana isabel 
no rocks for it
I understand 
this boss is so shit i dont even wanna mock it more
this matchup kinda toss-up, I don't think Vesti is that good into Moran most of the time but at least you burn Biscuit on Anis Blanc
if it get to post-indom Vesti not that favored cuz SWHA procs will land before Vesti can ever shoot again
you have slower speed advantage but not by much

it was vesti indom vs snow indom, my indom lasted longer but since no ammo
even with longer indom I don't think it's that favored, but I am also not super confident on the shot timing post-indom with different Vesti cs
SWHA is usually consistent at still having procs land while indom is wearing off, but Vesti has to actually shoot
Same fr
if it's like sub 1s diff between indom wearing off I still think SWHA is favored even with faster indom
its ok, now Ein gonna shine. trust
you need lucky Vesti shot timing to get in
any cube priority for certain characters?
hello can someone help me do my spa teams pls i havent updated it in so long
theres are the units i dont have
Slapped up them hams
what is your all-rounded def team u use in rookie arena?
Moran noah lib helm sw is interesting
That's your problem for rolling off ammo 
reloading during indom 
its because i never use vesti with indom, its a first time in a long while
she is tied with peaksolute
I will certainly try absolute but I'm not rolling off my ammo. 
but now im trying to find a way to deal with it, i went the Ein way but i indom enemy anis and i ded
Well, if Ein kill everyone and slower team you should still win
Indom Anis is worse than indom SW

Anis star,Blanc with biscuit is definitely pain to deal with
But I figured a counter for CA
blood kun
How to beat this 2
Honestly it practically a mirror match situation where you would like to be the slower rl.
Neo Neon tend be in the niche spot where her low burst gen flavor her and she can get her immunity so she block 1 shots and is a attacker so her hp would be lower to get blanc buff
I suggest using your blanc team against the t3 replace rapunzel with biscuit and replace jackel with centi or another battery that isn't b1 as anis with another b1 is worse as it length your chain burst and Anis becomes a weaker rapunzel
Can I see team 1
I can figure a proper attack team for ya
I figured yeah you dont need biscuit there in team 1 as it practically overkill just to protect noah.
If anything better you move Rumani P1 Jackel/Cinderella/helm/Noah
It doesn't matter if Rossana remove jackel link
As Jackel is just their for ult charge and I believe she's built if you have Noise built you her instead as Cinderella benefit more with her
Oh
you have 100% ele drake and altcana right, that should gun down noah 

Wait ure right 100% ele
But that Moran surviving
Rosanna weak
SG soloed by Moran? 
Yeh
Moran can tank the whole team for the whole burst onces she burst she'll taunt all the damage
I can see that happening
But that's why I said use Blanc team with Anis without b1 so that she can be the spread damage dealer she'll be able to ko Laplace & snowwhite
If it a matter of just winning you can beat it with those two teams
moran kinda too OP 
So my t1 jackal Cinderella helm noah rumani
T2 i copy
For t3 what do i use
You can keep it the same or I can "try" figure out a proper domination team where you try winning all three but I'll need to see you blabla unit charge speed and investment to give a proper assessment.
When does neon have healthy body immunity? Does she have the immunity at the start already?
Yes and no
Neon immunity active at the start of battle if affected by a debuff
So against Mihara,siren,etc character that applies debuff would activate this immunity
If not doesn't work in most cases?
Also when damage like being snipe by Rossana
But she will activate after sniped right? If she survives
Normal attacks doesn't activate it?
Managed this
Yeah normal attack also
Neo Neon is pretty good for pvp
That mainly due to her ult charge
I thought my anis dmg would be higher. She's 80/40atk
She's like building a team with Cinderella in mind.
But with Blanc/anis/biscuit with Neon the team is guarantees to full burst as all the member are practically immune till they burst
So it is quite ok can put her 2 or 3 to get splash damage for trigger
P3 works for me as you want her immunity to activate later not immediately if you have a lower Rl
But that's my opinion i mean it mainly considering that your using anis/blanc team
I mean she's a defender and besides that your neon probably took big chunk of their health pool before anis could get in more hits seem normal
hello asking for what team build i could change , my usual build is kinda outdated so i'm asking for help, i usually focus on top 10 but now stuck on top 20 , i have rumani and trina in arsenal don't have resources to invest them yet
I suppose no scarlet
If your using Privaty definitely a old school team
Wrong
Dont lie rheax
You big nerd
unless your a whale skill dont matter
Im not recommending Nero 10/10/7 sr15 yet 
Trina is 4 7 7 and rumani is 10 4 4
Yeah cooking pvp team can be alot more diverse if their options as some pvp units aren't pve useful so more often then not their not invested
rumani 10 S1?
Okay okay yes she got buff she's solid again
i have both scarlet , i can't invest on rumani and trina yet , i don't resources to upgrade units yet
Yeah, shes gotta be tanky
what 
Trina 4/10/7
Rumani 4/4/4 
I smell a rumani that dies to scar
if no scar, then 4/4/4 Trina is fine
not really, unless u have 4atk Moran maybe 
Do you have venti?
Its just optimal
Dps Moran with biscuit 
Totally a viable strategy no problem at the forefront that I'm aware
Can anyone explain to me how the middle character in these two opponent teams always gets Blanc's buff? Things go fast so it's hard to tell, but I don't see them as the unit with the lowest HP when the buff should be going off, so how are they getting the buff?
Well snowwhite has the lowest hp pool same as Vesti
Due to lower core practically
Counter.
Use Noah team with siren to stun Blanc
For the first team with venti as b3
As for team 2
So it goes by lowest total HP, not lowest HP percentage? Maybe I misunderstood that.
Lowest final hp
Didn't realize that could make such a difference.
I mean team two have high core defenders with biscuit so they have more hp even at 70%
Then their snowwhite
Then team 2 it becuase Jackel links snowwhite and Laplace
And becuase Laplace has higher core she doesn't get it if damage is distributed equally between the three
Thank you for the explanation. That's very helpful.
As for the counter for team 2
It would be Rossana you be able to unlink using Rossana with a good scarlet/trina/helm/jackel team for a quick one-shot
Sw will survive and kill all other with indom and life steal from them ult
So Rosana dispell's Jackal's hp link buffs on Vesti and Laplace, so Vesti would no longer be taking damage from hits on Jackal, and therefore should no longer be lowest HP to receive Blanc's b2 buff?
Ehhh kinda but you technically snipe with Rossana if you have her built she could straight up ko them
For now
blanc abis Thelm biscuit sw
Is the strongest team no counter found yet
I don't have any investment in her currently, but if it's worth it for more than just one or two team combos I probably will build her.
Indom + burst + crazy lifesteal is pain
Well won't want to keep that idea out there
pvp is a painful necessity for me. T_T
Just lots of gems on offer. Feels painful to not work for them.
Show me your three teams that you have
They were good teams until a couple weeks ago, now I'm toast.
Practically the anis/blanc/biscuit team is a easy win by attack terms against most teams so you only have to worry about 1 team to get 2/3
Like I said slower rl your blanc last slightly longer
He has 2rl with helm/snowwhite
So neon only do slow burst
You have 3rl
Since he not doing any buff for team hahah
Basically
I got
Scarlet - Lib - Trina - Laplace - Jackal
Snow HA - Blanc, Rapunzel - Emelia - Centi
Rumani - Siren - Vesti - THelm - Noah
But clearly I need to slot in Anis S, and I have her built fairly well already.
She actual works against scarlet/Rossana teams as she gain immunity too
Sad I wasted all my 3 other ticket
Also some people use Cinderella to stall Rl but I dont like her because she has her decoy that can give burst charge
You really did ram your head against that wall now did you 
Siren fail to stun before ult blanc hahah
Cindy and mihara die before ult ahhahah
Unless their 2.5rl
Yeah, that's what I've been running into a lot lately, that Siren's not fast enough to stun a lot of teams anymore.
It becuase now teams are faster
Change post is useless hahaha
Even tempering become useless
Back then most team were 3rl now most team unless intentional are 2.5 or 2rl
Honestly dont bother fighting Blanc/anis team unless your gonna mirror.
They practically counter the main staple teams
Underworld queen can’t stand that much bullet 😂👌
I'm happy as a Blanc enthusiast as Blanc is now part of the strongest pvp teams but at the same time yeah definitely wouldn't like to be at the end of the stick
Still all top PvP team still
- Blanc
2.moran noah - Nayuta team
If we are going by b2 becuase I feel like those define the type of team they are
Like stall team would use Noah or Nero
I only saw a Nayuta team for the first time today, and yeah it was strong. Did something change? I hadn't seen her as being strong in PvP before.
I created a 1 shot team with Nayuta
But their variants like in CA using shotgun teams
Many people use that team
Only dps change
Honestly i rather Venti in Noah teams as she can do burst damage and follow up not like liberalio
But I mean thats just a preference of mine
Oh you have a active arena server
Truly a rookie.
If he were me I'd figure out your team beat it at the last 3 mins
Like the junkie I am 
Have the attempt advantage
But luck for you I'm in another group that server that practically is as still water
777 damm second place is just chilling
Cp so much deflisit
When you started playing seems i was lucky not to be pair with day 1 player but near their level
Literally 4 has nothing on me
I play 1 week after release
I started after overzone just as Blanc banner was out hence why I'm such a Blanc fan as she was my first banner SSR and my main character for normal story
No wonder you in whale territory
Funny, I started during Soda's banner, and that's part of why she's still my favorite character.
I have a Bias and I'm happy Blanc is still viable although gimme a truesure or alt/overspec
Blanc in my eyes would have been a far more popular successor for pretty legacy alongside Noir if you ask me
I don't usually post like this but when I do, it felt amazing to see all 3 blues
That scarlet team i kinda crazy not gonna lie I mean I done the same with scarlet/blanc/redhood/centi/jackel but all the same
thers alot of variety from what I know
I only say that because rl knowledge wasn't that great so either I burst too soon and their noah team would outlast my team especially if they had a biscuit with their Noah
But probs I also enjoy a triple crown especially when punching up
Hello guys im trying to learn pvp but I really dont get it im an idiot is this anything?
Something about reading nikkes abilities my brain just dont register it can't make sense of making something good on pvp
#pvp-arena message refer to this guide if you really wanna learn pvp
@restive heart thank you
Off burst sw shouldnt kill moran I think
Also sr can kill sw i think
wow so much for 3%, you gonna 1% dis 
I need help
Used to be consistently Diamond 1-2
Using this as defense and my cp dropped by 6k compared the team formation I invented
my alice won
Oh so it was you?
Think I should be building Rh now
Ok apparently I just suck
@empty cedar new student for Railtracer? 
moran siren helmt swha noah
Ok thanks
I was summoned like the candy man and I have no idea what's going on

new pvp junkie to take up the student role from Railtracer
shit this needs some work
unlike zant, at least your numbers look way normal
@tropic summit i fcking hate this boss 
Alr I'm giving up
Besides I don't have noah
should've asked before running and reported you didn't have noah, would've worked even with a trina/centi B2, noah was to shield you from w/e DPS between B1 and you stunning at B2 2RL. rip
Uhhh
Ok
Yep definitely my fault
enemy has noah on 2.5RL so you can stun her denying their anti nuke, then helmT sniperoni their SWHA and you on B3 while they stuck on B2 at best
doesn't need to be anyone's fault, what matters is that you learn something out of it, next time you'll get them 
Uhhh how do we counter Noah?
Ok
as i said above, you've siren in p2, enemy is 2.5RL, siren stuns at 2RL B2 on p1, unless taunted. Noah taunts her, noah gets stunned
did i cook or charred the kitchen
Wait does Siren stun?
theres also this team but i doubt i could do anything against it
I see...
yep, you retain 2RL, enemy is interrupted on 2RL B2, you snipe and go into FB
ensure you're not CP gapped before running, this is a given but if you multiply enemy CP for 0.846 and your team is below that number, don't run it
Do you have Blanc and scarlet you can definitely win against this raggedy team
ok forget the 1st team i put blanc and nayuta in same lineup 
i dont think i can win this without siren or noah
the enemy team is this one?
yea the ones above
can you run indoms?
blanc indom? only ones i could come up with are rrh, swha or vesti indom
then you've the answer
jackal blanc swha biscuit helmT, swha lowest HP in link (force with vigor on helmt if needed)
confirm HP in shooting range or campaign first, enter battle, pause, click on units, check links + HP
okay, if that works what do u think works for the other team?
my main concern is that idk what to use for the other setups
since the units i had in mind are already used for 1 team
for the nayuta team run
noise anisTT cindy laplaceT noah
the anisTT you can skip it, he consolidated biscuit blanc and anisTT in it, makes the other 2 teams inevitably weaker
Ok thx
@empty cedar No...
no go isnt it? 
do you've liberalio or emilia?
or drakeT
i hev lib and drakeT yes (drakeT isnt OLd yet)
What is this, CH1? Why not go for another opponent?
making this particular enemy broke

maybe there's hope
but it's a gamble if they've CS% or not, considered their teams, they likely do 
tbf i'd just say fight someone else, it's not like you gonna be able to defend against their team being noahless anyway
hit someone else imo 
Kid named hope
ah perfect so even if, all the cards are KO 
Yea no more bully hopium 
0.94 deficit...
@empty cedar I do have Scarlet
Besides I have Noise now
you didn't even reach B3
you sure you're not gapped?
a record or you watching the match would help
Yes
256216/274660 = 0.94377
Uhhh okay
either way ask someone else, maybe i'm blind 
Atp I've already used 300 gems
I don't think there's anyone else free here
@swift mango @glad meteor @gaunt pulsar @tidal lichen if any of you is free and wanna help this lad out
scar rapunzel believer 
Hello again
May I get some help on how to deal with these teams?
who should i use?
Ok
no blanc?
My bracket people are creative 
run these you're on the left
- teams assumed not in deficit
- vigor on laplaceT to ensure SWHA indom
- tempering on noah, vigor on noise
Your tactic worked completely fine
@tropic summit
Thank you Rail san 
@tropic summit I reached stage 3 in this video
i see the problemo, taking too much dmg between 2RL B2 and B3
you're about to B3 when helmT straight up dies
Yea
.
the spike of dmg is due to anisTT funzies
could deny it with a noah.... but you don't have her 
Biscuit in both teams, any replacement?
Blame SU
put trina p3
i thought the same but look at damage taken in p4 and p5 anyway
might've same result 
Hmm yea
no bisc?
this question is toward you @remote thunder
Yea
Oh I see
you could try nayuta instead of moran
try nayuta siren trina helm swha
tempering on siren
@tidal lichen Well...
I don't have tempering
instead of moran not trina
Oh ok
Nayuta P1?
yes
i said trina p3
Uhhh yea I forgot about it
that was definitely a win btw
600 gems into SPA as f2p?

Yes officially 700 now
Ok finally
Thanks
did it win?
Yes

Yep
And get beat to diamond 4 again the next second
This is okay as defense right?
uhhh
not really but you lack many units so
there isnt really anything you can do atm
pray the game blesses you with blanc and noah
or bay
Ok
bisc too
Yep
what does mmast do in pvp?
Yep
Cuz she's a MG
@tidal lichen So having Noise and Nero won't help much right?
you can invest on nero but i dont really recommend
this team is pretty hard to counter
Whats nero investment?
sr15 10/4-7/4-7
sup hoboman
Thanks 💪

I need help, can I win this round??
enemy is 3RL, do you've any instant nuker?
or you can opt for a 2RL moran noah
Still Noahless sadly
Instant nuker.. such as..? Libby?
any of these work:
- scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
- anisTT moran vestiTU swha blanc
- nayuta anisTT vestiTU swha cindy
- nayuta anisTT privT SWHA moran
- moran anisTT privT blanc SWHA
lib is delayed, 2RL lib hits on 3RL B2, she'd be too slow
Does Siren stun happen before a 2RL burst?
whenever unsure put your teams and enemy siren in here then confirm timeline
https://nikke.top/
on a rule of thumb siren stun happens slightly before 2RL B2 assuming no CS% or special units present
here's an example of the timing on a noah p1
@tropic summit i won once with your help but my other 2 teams lost LOL
Team 3 won (the one you guided) I didn't check team 1 RL my bad
and I need tips on how I can win with team 1 either against his team 1 or 2
run these you're on the left
noah tempering
anisTT quantum
cindy tempering
Helmt any
biscuit any
scarlet tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor
centi quantum
jackal quantum
I am noah and scarletless my friend, sirenless too as a bonus 
the next thing you could try although i can't guarantee
cubes for T1:
vestiTU tempering, blanc vigor, rh vigor, centi quantum/adjutant, jackal quantum
should work out but the noah version was a surefire, give it a shot
ye multiply for 0.846, if you're not in range you can sub centi for SWHA for extra padding, but you'll need to check links
I see.. okay thanks
Hey guys, I'm stuck on this comp right now. I can beat the Rosanna team, but not the others. Any ideas?
The guy is constantly changing his defense teams 🥲
Dang, my PL is too weak for the second team even with SWHA replacing centi
T2
- swha blanc rh centi jackal
or - vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal
T3 - noah biscuit cindy helmt anisTT
@tropic summit rail do I have any other way if my team got deficit penalty? The second team
we enter risky playground but there are options
Ok thx again 😉
check CP with this
then check if vestiTU is linked
sorry mb how can I check if vesti get linked by blanc again?
run that team in shooting range, enter battle, pause, click on vestiTU, check jumping jackal is present
while you're at it find out who's the 2nd linked unit between lib and helmt
I see okay brb!
Pl wise safe
Jackal links with HelmT and Libby but not VestiTU somehow
well you know what you've to do, pad it out and run vestiTU linked with helmt and blanc buffing her
keep team 2RL so you can burst before them
burst gen: https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck
How do I make the link go to vestiTU instead?
she needs to be highest atk% or 2nd highest in the team
OL included
Oh OL included.. makes sense
2.5 RL won't do?
Jackal link somehow always goes to everyone but vesti
what's the team
After losing attack 2x I just realized NeOS is immune, hence she can't get Blanc Indom 
i tried replacing libby with b1 or b2, is that ok? PL wise safe
what is the team
yes you retain 2RL
2,5
fix positioning to
vestiTU blanc helmT anchorIM jackal
tempering on anchorIM, vigor on blanc, helmT vigor, anchorIM quantum, jackal quantum
they feed you to 2RL, you should know this by now (moran + privT are ARs)
also, if your vestiTU is at least 5%CS, you've extra burst gen due to the timing your barrage lands
assuming no CS% on your vestiTU youre 93% to 2RL, they feed you more than 10% via 2 ARs
my vesti only 4,33% cs BRUH
this is the feed you get:
wait mb so is Manchor tempering or quantum
I assume tempering on vestiTU and quantum for anchor?
won't matter she's p4
ah ok
vesti tempering
vigor blanc
helmt vigor
anchorIM any
jackal quantum
slap stat sticks on her for all it matters
okay... so this team is.. ready?
ready is a big word, start praying and hope for the best
you're losing important seconds to privT stun if she doesn't get lethal'ed and i doubt she will
copium deficit gaming 
problem is I gotta change the first team again since there are units who are replaced
I'll try keeping it 2 RL
painful
my team 1 won and team 3 the vestiTU one loses
not surprised, that thing became a frankenstein 
guess you didn't wipe after you got stunned
it was vesti and anchor vs moran T_T
need that B1 buffer
could swap around anisTT perhaps
then you gotta play CP tetris and burst gen simulator again
good luck 
if I swap anisTT.. that would just kill my team 1 xD
Can anyone help me find the highest cp team that I can use to beat this:
Moran, Noah, Helm, Cindy, SW
My Box:
run:
- anisTT noah biscuit privT swha
Even if in deficit?
Tried Anis, Blanc, SW, RH, Helm (No deficit, but that was just copium)
you don't fight moran teams on deficit, fight someone else 
you could remotely try
blanc vestiTU anisTT biscuit helmT
vestiTU and lib are the only units that can push moran even on deficit, in this case since there's a noah only vestiTU
depending on how badly in deficit you may want vestiTU in p3
if you're above 22-24% deficit don't try
could i get some help beating these teams?
Thought so. Quite close, but still lost 😢
yeah moran is a war crime on deficit
rosanna 7/10/10 20-40%atk?
edit: fixed a copy paste on T3
run these, you're on the left
Cubes:
T1
swha tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor
centi quantum
jackal quantum
T2
noah and anis tempering
T3
quency any but no vigor or tempering
nayuta any
helmt and rosanna tempering, rumani quantum
conditions:
teams are not in deficit penalty
your teams are on the left, they fighting the teams on the right
both team 1 and 2 use swha, do i choose either team and sac the other or did you miss that?
rather keep swha in T1 for triple win attempt, fix T2 to this
swha was used as flex burst gen in T2 anyway
Slowly climbing 
I want more pvp rewards but reading is still hard 
@glad meteor
Hey now, she was crucial for me to kill Only One on HM
i think enemy anis have way more elemental dmg or your units just can't tank ( i did my test against someone with 40+lvls and way more cp, borderline deficit for me) the other option is just link tt p1 and use a different unit than rh, if both are the same speed the re-enter will be enough to win against blanc, you can try same team+jackal and use tt p1/blanc/biscuit-swha/biscuit-shwa/ jackal
This is more of a complete hypothetical, but with Scarlet and Rapunzel likely getting upgrades within the next year, is it worth investing in them if you have a lot of other pvp units?
depends on your sync lvl, if you have the units already you can use them, now if you ask about OL reroll just wait, they probably get a new alt at the end of the year or new year banner, but if you are not a pvp player just don't invest in scar... rapu have uses but at the moment for CA or some specific teams
you can still use both in atk, but atk is "free", get tt and invest heavy on her
if spa i think u can skip both
for champs scar is still pretty good
rapunzel tho idk maybe not
only because she have teams, still need 2~3 units and cs
i mean its gonna be hard to make 5 teams for champs if u dont have scar
but if ur not champs player then skip ig
you can still use indom scar for sp DEF, but how to counter that is basic knowledge
other teams depends on if people use label
you can also just go swah+vesti or heavy AoE for scar DEF, but both teams need the cs to make it against the dmg you lose against label
i doubt non champs players would have label invested tbh but thats always a consideration true
but thats beside the reason why u skip both for spa
scar teams r just ez win nowadays and was due to be benched in def
just needed new units which we now have
basic knowledge again, but people who don't play pvp get better tools for atk, that is why atk is free
even in atk i think non pvp players have options already even without scar
snow anis lib nayu r all really strong enough to make 2 teams just for atk
indom scarlet, rosa scarlet, soda scarlet... they were all teams used to bait out a biscuit or ideally a noah, maybe an indom mirror
now attackers have infinite tools, so it's become easier to bypass
rosanna growing much more popular/common also kinda helped
all thanks to CA showing everyone how to copy homeworks
that is what i'm saying, better units that you don't have to invest on, they can just kill with base OL and some lvl on their skills compared to units that want atk, crit and team speed
that is another reason why i hate* lib and cindy, too much dmg without a penalty, cindy had the burst gen, but that was a better trade for team building
cindy has burst gen?
Apologies guys for the SPAM GOT Hacked dunno how
News to me too 
Shoot fast pregnant fast. 
You never know you would need that 2% to get to 2rl.
"´penalty"
low burst gen was a trade for her dmg...
Rapunzel stun is very powerful especially in SpA. 
if u can make rapu actually stun
Cindy dmg is smol now anyway
soline
even without soline its like matchup dependent for rapu to be 30% hp by the time she bursts
very inconsistent
its why u still see soda isntead of rapu for stun purposes
Easy in AtK in SPA. 
Idk what to do about this strange stat
otherwise if rapu stun didnt have that condition i would agree she would be really strong in pvp
Bad screen shot it doesn't show which is which stat. 
are u really gonna use rapu b1 in spa when we have anis moran rh b1 in the pool 
even if atk
talking about all her dmg after release, compared to lib or anis now those don't have a bad side, you can say... lib have the delay but means nothing, the dmg is there and will land in most of the cases
My third lines are charge dmg
To stun yes. 
Only she can
soda is different than rapu, you still wan to be faster in those match ups, but soda is just weaker
Lib nuke is actually worse than Cindy timing wise. 1rl slower Noah could fully block Lib. But couldn't fully block Cindy.
Lib you ignore Bay though and stronger.
Nah, Rapu stunning whole 2.1rl Moran team is sure win because they can't even burst and Scarlet just wipe.
Rapu stun to Scarlet solve everything that's 0.2rl slower than you.
yea and atp why would i even build scar and rapu when moran and anis already exists
esp for atk
esp if im not playing for champs
that was the point...
Rapu is worth building for chain stun Privaty and slow libby as well, she only needs to be OL.
u really dont need rapu stun if ur gonna stun with priv after
even better with soline but ye, it's satisfying 
You could ignore scarlet is you want (don't come asking why a team that could just be scarlet is so hard to beat though). 
from sp to CA to sp and for pvp players you can just use way more units than pve players
It's to stun lock a SW out of FB.
pve player probably can't play CA unless whales and if they have the resources they will build the units they want
priv stun alone can already do that 😭
rapunzel stuns at B1, priv stuns at B3, rapunzel can prevent indom, privT can't 
Nah Privaty don't stun for 7 out of 10 seconds which we use to lock SW from attacking at all if she burst. 
one skip moran, other waste noah
well, both can do the same, but i don't know what kind of bracket you are in
although realistically building scarlet from scratch in 2026 is indeed a bit weird
there's so many more things you can use for both pve and pvp, might aswell keep her benched
that is why all resources should go to anis
I built Ludmilla 
dont even really need to stun in the first place just go slower indom or something 😭

so rapun can be anti besti
the besti?
Rapu to scar+Trina anti anything that's 0.2rl slower than you.
you gotta hit 2RL and have the right HP threshold, at times it's kinda annoying unless you've soline
i'm sure vesti can just skip 20% rapu HP
Not that annoying, you could gauge it by eyes most the time.
except opponent went 621 to 641 and suddenly rapunzel doesn't live in p1 anymore 
that's why soline makes it a surefire
less headaches and RNG involved at minimun changes on opponents invest
Vesti could shoot 1-2 time before Rapi stun your ass.
She could do that if she were in absolute team
there are more units in the team, at the first soline proc vesti can just skip the 20%HP
well, probably survive a base vesti
But sometimes my scar trina can't kill, especially in ca
we can also reduce her S1 levels
Maybe if they brought Laplace, Emi/Helm, SW in same team. 
naked vesti
Yeah it's annoying when your rapun is too strong and can't reach 30% in 2rl
Well even against Noise, Moran if they can't burst they are just vanilla defender. 
tbh tho i was actually a fan of rapu soline for champs but i remember trying it out vs other teams like noise noah lib with zero dmg and rapu just doesnt stun cuz shes too tanky at that speed
That's why only use that in SpA where you know opponent team and Rapu is only used in CA as contingency revive and stun against Vesti and anti Rosa.
that is why for CA just go soline speed+ nuke
ditched the idea when i remembered champs is rng matchup and ur not always gonna fight SG or vesti on ur rapu team
lib better or can slap vesti if you want
If you used Soline it's not 2rl anymore. Against 2rl team like this just use Rapu alone
for champs not for atk rookie bro
2rl Rapu+Libby, Noah would just unstun and burst. 
cheaper comps than scar/trina, speed+soline+nuke it is the same
If you don't have 21%+ CS on Helm, SW is the better unit because made you team 2.2rl instead of 2.5rl and useless because you can't stun 2rl Noah.
If you decided to use Soline, use it with SW.
why rapu there? just soline or you want to use rapu stun?
We are talking about Rapu stun all this time.
yea no way im wasting snow or helm for a scar team in champs
you can add some 21%cs units or24%+ to make it better on top of recycling room 500s
Then don't use Soline. 
i said that soline alone was better for CA
better answer is to just not use rapu 
She isn't, she doesn't revive if scarlet killed by Vesti and doesn't stun to stop Blanc from burst. 
Soline with Scarlet is bad
Because scarlet kill enemy trigger SG sacc anyway if they hit her.
or maybe i can...
you are not reading, i said just use soline to make for a cheap team, instead of trying to make rapu stun work, then i said that lib or vesti can work (if they don't have teams)
Nah, Scarlet(p1)+Rapu(p2) is meta these days, more than Soda because it anti Vesti, anti Rosa, kill Blanc team sometime.
You don't try to make Rapu stun work in CA, you used her to plug the bad match up Scarlet has, like Vesti, Vesti+Blanc and Rosa SG

If you used scarlet with Jackal it's probably better to use Noise instead of Rapu
wasn't the shift to CA to use rapu stun... again?
Because we have many units that hit p1+2 hard these days
.
Yes, and not making Rapu stun in CA. You guys just come and assume.
The fact that she can stun is what count not 100% stun. There is nothing 100% in CA.
thats why i asked if its better to have rapu linked or not
to make her stun more consistent or if its still not good
I haven't seen anyone use Rapu linked and success. If Scarlet team had Jackal it's better to use Soda or Noise
yea cuz i imagine rapu linked would make it harder to hit 30% hp

anti-heal
The trade between Rapu and Soda both p2 and no jackal.
Against Vesti team, Rapu probably stun and win no matter Noah or Blanc. Soda high chance might just die and can't burst, if Scarlet team has off burst LapT or Emi.
Against Libby, Rapu can't stun, So lose whether it's Blanc or Noah. Soda can 100% win against Noah, provide scarlet could wipe over Noise, but RNG on Blanc.
Against Rosa, Soda version usually does nothing, it's just your scarlet die first or their Rosa. Rapu could revive scarlet if died or Heal if not and still wipe.
Libby is less used than Vesti. So Rapu was more meta for awhile. But since SG team isn't popular anymore, Scar+Rosa is more meta now. Because it could deal with Libby Team as well depending on investment.
yea vs lib teams rapu doesnt do shit cuz no dmg
main tradeoff imo is the vesti matchups vs noah/blanc winrate
wiat exactly what vesti teams, vesti indom or absolute?
oh vesti indom
cant say ive seen vesti noah in champs
Vesti indom or Vesti Noah, with secondary off burst dps. You could actually win against absolute too if your Rapu p2 is tanky enough and your team CS not too fallen behind their Vesti (so Vesti got 1 extra hit in before Rapu burst)
that actually sounds good tradeoff lowk
scar team that can win vs absolute?
damn
zamn
@swift mango before i forget, this season champ
Noah p2 all the way
the teams he won with the most were T1-T3, the other two often lost
guess he doesn't have absolute built, else he'd could've ran that instead and something leftover with noah
Any way to counter this without using my blanc indom team?
privT anisTT perhaps?
this probably kills all of them minus nayuta, although anisTT alone may pop biscuit stack on their anisTT, but she'll be for the most time stunned
Oo, okay i will give it a go after reset.
Ran out of attempts today, TY👍
no problemo record the match if u can
Need help with this thanks 🙏
moran noah trina snow bisc
jack tvesti anis blanc ada
nayuta helm centi rh lapt
team3 might need quantums
🐐 🔥
I think im on deficit
could be
Still, thanks for the help! 

@tropic summit The Rookie team you gave me is too effective. No one even tried to attack me today 
What are 3 team strongest def sp arena right now?
Why are ppl afraid of losing in rookie
I even lost 3 for trying out a weird team
omg im gonna die from this, have too many opt but each time i start to use one, another team have a same nikke that used
like thelm or swha
could u do it for me? 
@lone sequoia @mystic rain Thank you for the tips!

I usually only go for guaranteed wins, since there is that one challenge that gives some core dust every 500 wins, which is very minor in overall scheme of things, but still.
Anyone know how much Ele and Atk OL on OSA is min for PVP?
as much as u can
any team to counter the enemy's? his indom mechanics with swha is kinda annoying
is there an achievement like that?
no idea. ego?
@tropic summit this guy still is not being beaten reliably and I do not know why
Can I swap someone with any of the new units?
Sw electric weak, anis autos strong. Link can die pre burst
Yeah every 500 wins counts as a challenge goalpost. It is very minor amount of core dust though, since it takes 100 days to get to the next one, assuming you only use your 5 free tickets everyday and win with those.
I don't even use 5 of them sometimes
Oh I don't remember it giving a pull ticket, unless that is extra for every 1k
Send me your champs guy team when you could, thank you. 
forgot
Could you send me the screenshot of 5 teams of the guy who got champ of your CA?
where does that leave us? 🙁
where is that spreadsheet with the burst speeds taht I see being screenshoted sometimes
pretty sure my lost is ebcause of how slow the autoburst is it reentered Anis & Moran but it was too late for Noah's
fudge it.. lemme ditch Moran and add Biscuit instead
Guys I need some new attack teams, I can't even break top 10 after this arena reset 😭 What do I send? the box? or nikke bla bla?
Waiting for railtracer to 🧑🍳
ok it almost worked but its Moran
I ate it all
I’m going to try a new run with cindy isabel set up
my isa/arcana not invested at all I fear this won't work lol
Yeah won’t 
liter helps a lot with the cover rep
I'd like 20B+ at least but don't really see how I get it 
if I can get I sleep there this boss is aids
Takina 
takina only works there if your Ein good
Does your ada get miranda buff?
mine ... is not lol
my ada is built beyond belief

ok maybe not that good but yea shes built
I see
Yeah I gave up, i just built ele on ada
Wouldn’t ein steal all miranda crit buffs there 
I finish MoranT, SWHA is ready, where what nikke she replace?
so what the heck can I do again this team? I cannot seem to 100% make SW survive
Oh 
wish i had isabel
kricoun what is your score?
I have her I just have nothing to build her with lol
@hollow lagoon next time we have an open spot we gotta kidnap kricoun
and Rail (needs 2 open slots)

@tidal lichen dont want us
we too weak for him
he does he just doesn't know it yet
i already have a guild 
you could have a better guild 
My ein atk too giga, blue atk line and c1 deadge
not a cult
im only sync 481 
perfect
i mean
I’m only sync 600
i could daily focuse attack @tidal lichen in rookie untill he joins
wtf 
That in bla bla?
yep
wdf
is new
but seriously, jokes aside, we always want good players who min-max good 🙂
even if not highest sync
better to have p2w
I'd take sync 500 who knows how to play over sync 700 who doesn't
we dont have 700 sync 
we do (it's you shortly tbh)
Short
yo wtf happened to blabla union stuff
some changes 

that was always there just people don't care and they farm your posts for likes
see he's in a rank 89

i stalked him already
syncs here are omega high but
they dont really minmax
there are barely any minmaxers
i dont min max either
i do 
i'm the 2 ele master
u dont spend 3h on ur pulls? 
low, very low
i pull but i cant rollll gear
zero ele privaty, 1 ele Neon, 2 ele Anis, attack also 1-2. 
pribity self buff ele during her damage phase anyway
my priv isnt even ol'd
and that's with 20-50 rocks each.
i dont want to pad her power
I had like 600 social pulls, 600 ord tickets etc, I swear it took over an hour to pull all my shit
need her for 49.9s
tf.
click real fast and it's 5 mins 
you will surprise how little those are
had to post screenshots in our flex channel too
right i totally shoudl check how fast MC dies in interception
with my 2 ele units?
yes
by not doing mech i mean anis taking care of slippers on ai and true dmg being the carry on hard
Yeah, a 200 pulls may take 1 minute or 20 depend on how you do it. Pull and skip, 1 minute. Pull and pray, quit app, restart, jump screen, record, screenshot .etc could take 10+ minutes. 
dunno felt like I was there for an hour either way 😄
not sure if improved?
Railtracer is asleep I guess...
use mmast

where tf did my reply go
use mmast
i did

use mmast again
buff stacking is op
i used mmast
cindy too strong
at one point
use mmast
but i just wanna try to not use mast
use mmast 

Reset
12 rocks 
Time to rob everyone rock 
too late
Hime already did it
Just got a plus 1 core on my Anis from the free roll 
@tropic summit AnisTT/Mihara/Blanc/Biscuit/Cindy
7+3
given my anis is core max I want a free noen not anis lmao
got absolutely nothing.
I only went for Mlb, but a free +1 is a free +1
I went above and beyond for the 1st time lol
never core maxed anyone before on purpose
my core maxes now are:
anis
helmT (partially due to the point exchange)
I lost to this team twice
I have 34 max cores now, and with the exception of Noah, none of them on purpose 
🐳
You get a surprising number of pulls by never skipping even a single day 
That said, over half of my Max core Nikkes are absolutely useless 
DexX-kun congrats again on your frame 
hopefully you can vote for (or against me) in the next CA 😄
thx buddy

@tropic summit
i'll wait and see i aim for lost frame gg so if u winner sorry imma out

damn you gotta do that one next?
I did them both and I will tell you now! you feel so free once you did both
like you livin' on a cloud
yup and if i got it i'll cheer the people i know nether win or lose
you can vote anything and it doesn't matter! so good
thx for all of u guys how's help me get this frame really i was so damn hard
mb cuz i not useed yet on pvp but it's be funn when u keep ask who's know more aboout it
@gaunt pulsar did most 😄
but I was pretty certain on tenshi taking semi final
know much much about how's round run
Lomarion basically cheating 
yet . uk even tk text me and said cheer tenshi
he's 100% win
sad tk was really sure
until he lost in final

I voted for moran/blanc guy 
yup and after i said to tk dw dw someone gonna beat tenshi don't sad gggg

We sure will...
@tropic summit Tetra Mold finally gave something good.
yup important for my to aim for lose side ig u gonna for winer yep ? cuz u've both frame
yup i wasn't know tbh but after he text me i knew it
It's not Blanc though. So I'm still.mad...
is he here? 😮
discord
he's on nikki community server
not here then? 🙁
is Anis SR a better option than Centi with treasure for Scalert team?
idk tbh
should be same username if you click em
but u can join that server and text him .
I just here 🙁
Are you guys talking about the CA cheer frames? I got the cheer for all winners by pure chance on the 3rd ever CA
The loser frame though, I feel like I will never get, even if I vote on people I think will definitely lose, then they win anyway
DexX needs loser frame
what phase?
unfortunately I maxed her before knowing
yup . we can try again gg mb get all lose
@shell hazel i sent text to him but he offline
Then your Centi is bricked, you probably want Anis SR or Rumani
If she was Phase 1, then it would have been OK
Rumani then since I have her at 3 stars, would it be possible to fix Centi on the next skill reset?
Nope, since it's only a skill reset, not treasure
It's not about the level of skills. Her treasure gives your whole team shields at the start of the match which boosts enemy burst gen
Got it, thanks
@tropic summit in 4th image you have my "pvp" nikkes, are able you to cook something that would win 2 battles or hava a chance to do that.
I believe Shift Up is aware of the issue, but they haven't done anything about it










