#pvp-arena

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placid bloom
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and 3 frame delay (6 frame on 60fps sim) on Helm burst?

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maybe it's just in time, there's only 1 frame diff between re-enter Moran and Helm B3

umbral crown
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Nooe

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Moran is instant

placid bloom
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even at 20 cs there is exact 3 frame diff between Helm B3 and re-enter Moran, I guess it's coinflip whether it's taunted pepehmmm

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but I did not expect triple quantum to add that much speed

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I am still fairly sure SWHA dies before Blanc can cast B2 though with how much delay re-enter has as long as Anis ele dmg high enough

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cuz the Moran dmg reduc is doing jack against Blanc

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and without FB mod you just lose to Helm heal

umbral crown
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Gonna record the fight soon

raven plover
lone sequoia
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you don't want p3 shwa against 1b1 tt

lunar pawn
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plan worked @frigid tundra
he attacked 6th HelmSalute

placid bloom
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I was just using it to show example of re-enter delayy

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and how weak it is to Anis splash shot + star before Blanc can cast B2

lone sequoia
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re-enter is bad for water units, tt can just kill them during chain

hollow lagoon
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@tropic summit

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for a brief moment i get to enjoy double digit i suppose

lunar pawn
hollow lagoon
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even tho i place second

lunar pawn
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will give them a run later, ty

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gotta get up to date with wuwa now

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and still on the fence whether to drop my f2p status in nikke susge

hollow lagoon
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my teams are not

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good, they are more "cheap"

lunar pawn
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consistent is better here anyway

quick lake
hollow lagoon
quick lake
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I understand pain

hollow lagoon
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this boss is so shit i dont even wanna mock it more

lunar pawn
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need time to build isabel's lines

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my neon isn't ideal yet either

umbral crown
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@placid bloomdorocross

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lost cuz my vesti 0 ammo kekez

placid bloom
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you have slower speed advantage but not by much

umbral crown
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it was vesti indom vs snow indom, my indom lasted longer but since no ammo

placid bloom
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even with longer indom I don't think it's that favored, but I am also not super confident on the shot timing post-indom with different Vesti cs

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SWHA is usually consistent at still having procs land while indom is wearing off, but Vesti has to actually shoot

crystal flicker
placid bloom
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if it's like sub 1s diff between indom wearing off I still think SWHA is favored even with faster indom

umbral crown
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its ok, now Ein gonna shine. trust

placid bloom
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you need lucky Vesti shot timing to get in

lunar pawn
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any cube priority for certain characters?

harsh tendon
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hello can someone help me do my spa teams pls i havent updated it in so long

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theres are the units i dont have

long chasm
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Still 2 chance tiket

teal ledge
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Slapped up them hams

tacit crypt
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what is your all-rounded def team u use in rookie arena?

glad meteor
swift mango
mystic rain
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reloading during indom KEKL

umbral crown
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she is tied with peaksolute

swift mango
umbral crown
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but now im trying to find a way to deal with it, i went the Ein way but i indom enemy anis and i ded

swift mango
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Indom Anis is worse than indom SW

umbral crown
empty cedar
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Anis star,Blanc with biscuit is definitely pain to deal with

But I figured a counter for CA

umbral crown
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but well, i will find a way eventually

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its part of the process

last vigil
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How to beat this 2

empty cedar
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Honestly it practically a mirror match situation where you would like to be the slower rl.

Neo Neon tend be in the niche spot where her low burst gen flavor her and she can get her immunity so she block 1 shots and is a attacker so her hp would be lower to get blanc buff

empty cedar
# last vigil How to beat this 2

I suggest using your blanc team against the t3 replace rapunzel with biscuit and replace jackel with centi or another battery that isn't b1 as anis with another b1 is worse as it length your chain burst and Anis becomes a weaker rapunzel

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Can I see team 1

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I can figure a proper attack team for ya

last vigil
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I can win with t1

empty cedar
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I figured yeah you dont need biscuit there in team 1 as it practically overkill just to protect noah.

If anything better you move Rumani P1 Jackel/Cinderella/helm/Noah

It doesn't matter if Rossana remove jackel link

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As Jackel is just their for ult charge and I believe she's built if you have Noise built you her instead as Cinderella benefit more with her

empty cedar
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Pvp junkie you see

raven plover
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you have 100% ele drake and altcana right, that should gun down noah Caught

last vigil
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Wait ure right 100% ele

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But that Moran surviving

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Rosanna weak

placid bloom
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SG soloed by Moran? CrownHUH

last vigil
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Yeh

empty cedar
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Moran can tank the whole team for the whole burst onces she burst she'll taunt all the damage

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I can see that happening

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But that's why I said use Blanc team with Anis without b1 so that she can be the spread damage dealer she'll be able to ko Laplace & snowwhite

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If it a matter of just winning you can beat it with those two teams

quick lake
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moran kinda too OP pain

empty cedar
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The opponent Blanc team is more of a pain in the ass to deal

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Then the Moran team

last vigil
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So my t1 jackal Cinderella helm noah rumani
T2 i copy
For t3 what do i use

empty cedar
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You can keep it the same or I can "try" figure out a proper domination team where you try winning all three but I'll need to see you blabla unit charge speed and investment to give a proper assessment.

rich ledge
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When does neon have healthy body immunity? Does she have the immunity at the start already?

empty cedar
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Yes and no

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Neon immunity active at the start of battle if affected by a debuff

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So against Mihara,siren,etc character that applies debuff would activate this immunity

rich ledge
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If not doesn't work in most cases?

empty cedar
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Also when damage like being snipe by Rossana

rich ledge
empty cedar
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Yeah pretty much

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She'll have to tank the hit

rich ledge
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Normal attacks doesn't activate it?

last vigil
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Managed this

empty cedar
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Neo Neon is pretty good for pvp

gritty ridge
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Eh

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Shes like, 6/10

empty cedar
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That mainly due to her ult charge

last vigil
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I thought my anis dmg would be higher. She's 80/40atk

empty cedar
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She's like building a team with Cinderella in mind.

But with Blanc/anis/biscuit with Neon the team is guarantees to full burst as all the member are practically immune till they burst

rich ledge
empty cedar
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P3 works for me as you want her immunity to activate later not immediately if you have a lower Rl

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But that's my opinion i mean it mainly considering that your using anis/blanc team

empty cedar
north laurel
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hello asking for what team build i could change , my usual build is kinda outdated so i'm asking for help, i usually focus on top 10 but now stuck on top 20 , i have rumani and trina in arsenal don't have resources to invest them yet

empty cedar
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I suppose no scarlet

quick lake
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rumani and trina is 4ol 4/4/4 ChimeKisama

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pvp so cheap

empty cedar
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If your using Privaty definitely a old school team

gritty ridge
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Dont lie rheax

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You big nerd

empty cedar
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DoroStareHeck unless your a whale skill dont matter

quick lake
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Im not recommending Nero 10/10/7 sr15 yet Doro

gritty ridge
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Trina is 4 7 7 and rumani is 10 4 4

empty cedar
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Yeah cooking pvp team can be alot more diverse if their options as some pvp units aren't pve useful so more often then not their not invested

mint kite
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rumani 10 S1?

empty cedar
north laurel
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i have both scarlet , i can't invest on rumani and trina yet , i don't resources to upgrade units yet

gritty ridge
quick lake
gritty ridge
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I smell a rumani that dies to scar

quick lake
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if no scar, then 4/4/4 Trina is fine

gritty ridge
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You dont believe in Trina moran?

quick lake
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not really, unless u have 4atk Moran maybe CrownHUH

empty cedar
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Do you have venti?

empty cedar
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Dps Moran with biscuit Brilliant_Neon

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Totally a viable strategy no problem at the forefront that I'm aware

slim wing
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Can anyone explain to me how the middle character in these two opponent teams always gets Blanc's buff? Things go fast so it's hard to tell, but I don't see them as the unit with the lowest HP when the buff should be going off, so how are they getting the buff?

empty cedar
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Well snowwhite has the lowest hp pool same as Vesti

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Due to lower core practically

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Counter.

Use Noah team with siren to stun Blanc

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For the first team with venti as b3

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As for team 2

slim wing
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So it goes by lowest total HP, not lowest HP percentage? Maybe I misunderstood that.

empty cedar
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Lowest final hp

slim wing
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Didn't realize that could make such a difference.

empty cedar
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I mean team two have high core defenders with biscuit so they have more hp even at 70%

Then their snowwhite

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Then team 2 it becuase Jackel links snowwhite and Laplace

And becuase Laplace has higher core she doesn't get it if damage is distributed equally between the three

slim wing
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Thank you for the explanation. That's very helpful.

empty cedar
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As for the counter for team 2

It would be Rossana you be able to unlink using Rossana with a good scarlet/trina/helm/jackel team for a quick one-shot

long chasm
slim wing
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So Rosana dispell's Jackal's hp link buffs on Vesti and Laplace, so Vesti would no longer be taking damage from hits on Jackal, and therefore should no longer be lowest HP to receive Blanc's b2 buff?

empty cedar
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Ehhh kinda but you technically snipe with Rossana if you have her built she could straight up ko them

long chasm
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For now
blanc abis Thelm biscuit sw
Is the strongest team no counter found yet

slim wing
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I don't have any investment in her currently, but if it's worth it for more than just one or two team combos I probably will build her.

long chasm
empty cedar
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Well won't want to keep that idea out there

long chasm
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I don’t think to perfect win but… like I I win by thin paper

empty cedar
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Told ya

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But yeah

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Pvp junkie here

slim wing
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pvp is a painful necessity for me. T_T

empty cedar
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Why?

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Unless you trying for CA like me

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Sp is quite chill

slim wing
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Just lots of gems on offer. Feels painful to not work for them.

empty cedar
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Show me your three teams that you have

slim wing
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They were good teams until a couple weeks ago, now I'm toast.

long chasm
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Second match
same result

empty cedar
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Practically the anis/blanc/biscuit team is a easy win by attack terms against most teams so you only have to worry about 1 team to get 2/3

empty cedar
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He has 2rl with helm/snowwhite

long chasm
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So neon only do slow burst

empty cedar
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You have 3rl

long chasm
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Since he not doing any buff for team hahah

empty cedar
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Basically

slim wing
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I got
Scarlet - Lib - Trina - Laplace - Jackal
Snow HA - Blanc, Rapunzel - Emelia - Centi
Rumani - Siren - Vesti - THelm - Noah

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But clearly I need to slot in Anis S, and I have her built fairly well already.

empty cedar
long chasm
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Sad I wasted all my 3 other ticket

empty cedar
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Also some people use Cinderella to stall Rl but I dont like her because she has her decoy that can give burst charge

empty cedar
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You really did ram your head against that wall now did you Crown_Oopsie

long chasm
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Siren fail to stun before ult blanc hahah

empty cedar
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Yeah 2rl dont work against b2

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Using siren

long chasm
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Cindy and mihara die before ult ahhahah

empty cedar
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Unless their 2.5rl

slim wing
empty cedar
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It becuase now teams are faster

long chasm
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Even tempering become useless

empty cedar
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Back then most team were 3rl now most team unless intentional are 2.5 or 2rl

long chasm
empty cedar
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Honestly dont bother fighting Blanc/anis team unless your gonna mirror.

They practically counter the main staple teams

long chasm
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Underworld queen can’t stand that much bullet 😂👌

empty cedar
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I'm happy as a Blanc enthusiast as Blanc is now part of the strongest pvp teams but at the same time yeah definitely wouldn't like to be at the end of the stick

long chasm
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Still all top PvP team still

  1. Blanc
    2.moran noah
  2. Nayuta team
empty cedar
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If we are going by b2 becuase I feel like those define the type of team they are

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Like stall team would use Noah or Nero

slim wing
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I only saw a Nayuta team for the first time today, and yeah it was strong. Did something change? I hadn't seen her as being strong in PvP before.

empty cedar
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I created a 1 shot team with Nayuta

long chasm
empty cedar
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But their variants like in CA using shotgun teams

long chasm
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Only dps change

empty cedar
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Honestly i rather Venti in Noah teams as she can do burst damage and follow up not like liberalio

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But I mean thats just a preference of mine

long chasm
empty cedar
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Oh you have a active arena server

long chasm
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But not expert spending diamond

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Only 2 per day not like ngoc wasted all reward😂

empty cedar
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Truly a rookie.

If he were me I'd figure out your team beat it at the last 3 mins

Like the junkie I am DoroStareHeck

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Have the attempt advantage

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But luck for you I'm in another group that server that practically is as still water

long chasm
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Well why he attack me rank 4 when he rank 6

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Same reward anyway

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Rank 1-3 is monster

empty cedar
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777 damm second place is just chilling

long chasm
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Cp so much deflisit

empty cedar
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When you started playing seems i was lucky not to be pair with day 1 player but near their level

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Literally 4 has nothing on me

long chasm
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I play 1 week after release

empty cedar
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I started after overzone just as Blanc banner was out hence why I'm such a Blanc fan as she was my first banner SSR and my main character for normal story

empty cedar
slim wing
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Funny, I started during Soda's banner, and that's part of why she's still my favorite character.

empty cedar
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I have a Bias and I'm happy Blanc is still viable although gimme a truesure or alt/overspec

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Blanc in my eyes would have been a far more popular successor for pretty legacy alongside Noir if you ask me

lavish lintel
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I don't usually post like this but when I do, it felt amazing to see all 3 blues

empty cedar
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That scarlet team i kinda crazy not gonna lie I mean I done the same with scarlet/blanc/redhood/centi/jackel but all the same

lavish lintel
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thers alot of variety from what I know

empty cedar
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I only say that because rl knowledge wasn't that great so either I burst too soon and their noah team would outlast my team especially if they had a biscuit with their Noah

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But probs I also enjoy a triple crown especially when punching up

wild zealot
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Hello guys im trying to learn pvp but I really dont get it im an idiot is this anything?

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Something about reading nikkes abilities my brain just dont register it can't make sense of making something good on pvp

restive heart
wild zealot
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@restive heart thank you

glad meteor
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Also sr can kill sw i think

tropic summit
remote thunder
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Using this as defense and my cp dropped by 6k compared the team formation I invented

covert lintel
remote thunder
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Think I should be building Rh now

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Ok apparently I just suck

shell hazel
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@empty cedar new student for Railtracer? BehemothLaugh

tropic summit
remote thunder
empty cedar
shell hazel
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new pvp junkie to take up the student role from Railtracer

tropic summit
hollow lagoon
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@tropic summit i fcking hate this boss SolineWhat

tropic summit
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god knows what kind of sorcery that man runs

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look at dat shiet KEKWut

remote thunder
tropic summit
remote thunder
tropic summit
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enemy has noah on 2.5RL so you can stun her denying their anti nuke, then helmT sniperoni their SWHA and you on B3 while they stuck on B2 at best

tropic summit
tropic summit
lethal karma
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did i cook or charred the kitchen

lethal karma
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theres also this team but i doubt i could do anything against it

remote thunder
remote thunder
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So I just replace Nayuta with Trina right

tropic summit
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ensure you're not CP gapped before running, this is a given but if you multiply enemy CP for 0.846 and your team is below that number, don't run it

hollow lagoon
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@tropic summit subscribe to the cult to get info on my latest comp

empty cedar
lethal karma
empty cedar
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Apparently I'm the student or in other terms a apprentice

lethal karma
tropic summit
lethal karma
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yea the ones above

tropic summit
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can you run indoms?

lethal karma
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blanc indom? only ones i could come up with are rrh, swha or vesti indom

tropic summit
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jackal blanc swha biscuit helmT, swha lowest HP in link (force with vigor on helmt if needed)

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confirm HP in shooting range or campaign first, enter battle, pause, click on units, check links + HP

lethal karma
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okay, if that works what do u think works for the other team?

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my main concern is that idk what to use for the other setups

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since the units i had in mind are already used for 1 team

tropic summit
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the anisTT you can skip it, he consolidated biscuit blanc and anisTT in it, makes the other 2 teams inevitably weaker

lethal karma
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should i give my box instead? laplace and noah isnt an option for me

remote thunder
lethal karma
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no go isnt it? KEKW

tropic summit
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or drakeT

lethal karma
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i hev lib and drakeT yes (drakeT isnt OLd yet)

oak smelt
lethal karma
oak smelt
lethal karma
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i wont force it if its too much to ask though

tropic summit
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but it's a gamble if they've CS% or not, considered their teams, they likely do AndersonLaugh

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tbf i'd just say fight someone else, it's not like you gonna be able to defend against their team being noahless anyway

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hit someone else imo thumbsup

lethal karma
tropic summit
lethal karma
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Yea no more bully hopium hmmz

remote thunder
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Besides I have Noise now

tropic summit
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you sure you're not gapped?

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a record or you watching the match would help

remote thunder
remote thunder
tropic summit
remote thunder
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Atp I've already used 300 gems

remote thunder
tropic summit
violet prism
tropic summit
violet prism
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Hello again ShiftyHi May I get some help on how to deal with these teams?

peak shore
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who should i use?

violet prism
remote thunder
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Okay they just have more dps

tropic summit
remote thunder
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Your tactic worked completely fine
@tropic summit

violet prism
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Thank you Rail san AliceLove

remote thunder
tropic summit
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you're about to B3 when helmT straight up dies

remote thunder
remote thunder
tropic summit
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the spike of dmg is due to anisTT funzies

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could deny it with a noah.... but you don't have her pepehmmm

violet prism
remote thunder
tidal lichen
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put trina p3

tropic summit
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might've same result NovelHmm

remote thunder
tidal lichen
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no bisc?

tropic summit
remote thunder
remote thunder
remote thunder
tidal lichen
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you could try nayuta instead of moran

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try nayuta siren trina helm swha

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tempering on siren

remote thunder
remote thunder
tidal lichen
remote thunder
tidal lichen
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youre bursting even slower on that comp

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pray siren lives

remote thunder
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Nayuta P1?

tidal lichen
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yes

remote thunder
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Already 600 gems into the gamble can't quit

remote thunder
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@tropic summit

tidal lichen
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i said trina p3

remote thunder
tidal lichen
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that was definitely a win btw

oak smelt
remote thunder
tidal lichen
remote thunder
tidal lichen
remote thunder
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But somehow my videos were stuck just now

tidal lichen
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all that for diamond 1 🥀

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never gem on sp.

remote thunder
remote thunder
tidal lichen
remote thunder
tidal lichen
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not really but you lack many units so

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there isnt really anything you can do atm

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pray the game blesses you with blanc and noah

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or bay

remote thunder
tidal lichen
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bisc too

remote thunder
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Yep

hoary magnet
tidal lichen
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nothing

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padding and fb buff only

remote thunder
remote thunder
tidal lichen
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this team is pretty hard to counter

raven plover
cedar sorrel
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Whats nero investment?

tidal lichen
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sr15 10/4-7/4-7

charred wedge
cedar sorrel
tidal lichen
hollow hazel
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I need help, can I win this round??

tropic summit
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or you can opt for a 2RL moran noah

hollow hazel
hollow hazel
tropic summit
tropic summit
hollow hazel
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Ah i can do 2 and 3

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Thankss i'l try!

high swan
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Does Siren stun happen before a 2RL burst?

tropic summit
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on a rule of thumb siren stun happens slightly before 2RL B2 assuming no CS% or special units present

tropic summit
hollow hazel
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@tropic summit i won once with your help but my other 2 teams lost LOL

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Team 3 won (the one you guided) I didn't check team 1 RL my bad ogey and I need tips on how I can win with team 1 either against his team 1 or 2

tropic summit
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noah tempering
anisTT quantum
cindy tempering
Helmt any
biscuit any

scarlet tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor
centi quantum
jackal quantum

hollow hazel
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I am noah and scarletless my friend, sirenless too as a bonus ogey

tropic summit
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cubes for T1:

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vestiTU tempering, blanc vigor, rh vigor, centi quantum/adjutant, jackal quantum

hollow hazel
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I see.. thanks! I'll try

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I'll check for deficit first for the second team

tropic summit
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should work out but the noah version was a surefire, give it a shot

tropic summit
hollow hazel
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I see.. okay thanks

tribal nebula
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Hey guys, I'm stuck on this comp right now. I can beat the Rosanna team, but not the others. Any ideas?

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The guy is constantly changing his defense teams 🥲

hollow hazel
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Dang, my PL is too weak for the second team even with SWHA replacing centi

tropic summit
hollow hazel
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@tropic summit rail do I have any other way if my team got deficit penalty? The second team

tropic summit
tropic summit
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then check if vestiTU is linked

hollow hazel
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sorry mb how can I check if vesti get linked by blanc again?

tropic summit
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while you're at it find out who's the 2nd linked unit between lib and helmt

hollow hazel
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I see okay brb!

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Pl wise safe

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Jackal links with HelmT and Libby but not VestiTU somehow

tropic summit
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keep team 2RL so you can burst before them

hollow hazel
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How do I make the link go to vestiTU instead?

tropic summit
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OL included

hollow hazel
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Oh OL included.. makes sense

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2.5 RL won't do?

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Jackal link somehow always goes to everyone but vesti

tropic summit
crystal flicker
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After losing attack 2x I just realized NeOS is immune, hence she can't get Blanc Indom NeonDed

hollow hazel
tropic summit
hollow hazel
tropic summit
hollow hazel
tropic summit
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fix positioning to

vestiTU blanc helmT anchorIM jackal

tempering on anchorIM, vigor on blanc, helmT vigor, anchorIM quantum, jackal quantum

tropic summit
# hollow hazel 2,5

they feed you to 2RL, you should know this by now (moran + privT are ARs)
also, if your vestiTU is at least 5%CS, you've extra burst gen due to the timing your barrage lands

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assuming no CS% on your vestiTU youre 93% to 2RL, they feed you more than 10% via 2 ARs

hollow hazel
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my vesti only 4,33% cs BRUH

tropic summit
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this is the feed you get:

hollow hazel
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I assume tempering on vestiTU and quantum for anchor?

tropic summit
hollow hazel
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ah ok

tropic summit
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vesti tempering
vigor blanc
helmt vigor
anchorIM any
jackal quantum

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slap stat sticks on her for all it matters

hollow hazel
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okay... so this team is.. ready?

tropic summit
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you're losing important seconds to privT stun if she doesn't get lethal'ed and i doubt she will

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copium deficit gaming shrug

hollow hazel
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problem is I gotta change the first team again since there are units who are replaced

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I'll try keeping it 2 RL

tropic summit
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yolo

hollow hazel
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my team 1 won and team 3 the vestiTU one loses

tropic summit
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guess you didn't wipe after you got stunned

hollow hazel
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it was vesti and anchor vs moran T_T

tropic summit
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need that B1 buffer

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could swap around anisTT perhaps

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then you gotta play CP tetris and burst gen simulator again

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good luck CrownHUH

hollow hazel
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if I swap anisTT.. that would just kill my team 1 xD

twilit bay
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Can anyone help me find the highest cp team that I can use to beat this:
Moran, Noah, Helm, Cindy, SW

My Box:

tropic summit
twilit bay
tropic summit
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you could remotely try

blanc vestiTU anisTT biscuit helmT

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vestiTU and lib are the only units that can push moran even on deficit, in this case since there's a noah only vestiTU

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depending on how badly in deficit you may want vestiTU in p3

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if you're above 22-24% deficit don't try

silent grotto
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could i get some help beating these teams?

twilit bay
tropic summit
tropic summit
silent grotto
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yes she has 30%

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thank you ill try these out

tropic summit
# silent grotto thank you ill try these out

edit: fixed a copy paste on T3

run these, you're on the left

Cubes:

T1
swha tempering
blanc vigor
rh vigor
centi quantum
jackal quantum

T2
noah and anis tempering

T3
quency any but no vigor or tempering
nayuta any
helmt and rosanna tempering, rumani quantum

conditions:

teams are not in deficit penalty
your teams are on the left, they fighting the teams on the right

silent grotto
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both team 1 and 2 use swha, do i choose either team and sac the other or did you miss that?

tropic summit
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swha was used as flex burst gen in T2 anyway

silent grotto
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ah okay

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thank you! ❤️

static dew
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Slowly climbing Smugthy
I want more pvp rewards but reading is still hard CrownHUH

tropic summit
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@glad meteor

versed mesa
lunar pawn
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she was useful for a while in missilis tower

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also for my harvester AI clear

lone sequoia
# long chasm Fail

i think enemy anis have way more elemental dmg or your units just can't tank ( i did my test against someone with 40+lvls and way more cp, borderline deficit for me) the other option is just link tt p1 and use a different unit than rh, if both are the same speed the re-enter will be enough to win against blanc, you can try same team+jackal and use tt p1/blanc/biscuit-swha/biscuit-shwa/ jackal

uncut crown
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This is more of a complete hypothetical, but with Scarlet and Rapunzel likely getting upgrades within the next year, is it worth investing in them if you have a lot of other pvp units?

lone sequoia
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depends on your sync lvl, if you have the units already you can use them, now if you ask about OL reroll just wait, they probably get a new alt at the end of the year or new year banner, but if you are not a pvp player just don't invest in scar... rapu have uses but at the moment for CA or some specific teams

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you can still use both in atk, but atk is "free", get tt and invest heavy on her

mystic rain
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if spa i think u can skip both

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for champs scar is still pretty good

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rapunzel tho idk maybe not

lone sequoia
mystic rain
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i mean its gonna be hard to make 5 teams for champs if u dont have scar

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but if ur not champs player then skip ig

lone sequoia
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you can still use indom scar for sp DEF, but how to counter that is basic knowledge

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other teams depends on if people use label

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you can also just go swah+vesti or heavy AoE for scar DEF, but both teams need the cs to make it against the dmg you lose against label

mystic rain
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i doubt non champs players would have label invested tbh but thats always a consideration true

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but thats beside the reason why u skip both for spa

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scar teams r just ez win nowadays and was due to be benched in def

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just needed new units which we now have

lone sequoia
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basic knowledge again, but people who don't play pvp get better tools for atk, that is why atk is free

mystic rain
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even in atk i think non pvp players have options already even without scar

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snow anis lib nayu r all really strong enough to make 2 teams just for atk

tropic summit
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rosanna growing much more popular/common also kinda helped

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all thanks to CA showing everyone how to copy homeworks

lone sequoia
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that is another reason why i hate* lib and cindy, too much dmg without a penalty, cindy had the burst gen, but that was a better trade for team building

mystic rain
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cindy has burst gen?

tulip quest
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Apologies guys for the SPAM GOT Hacked dunno how

heady peak
swift mango
swift mango
lone sequoia
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low burst gen was a trade for her dmg...

swift mango
mystic rain
swift mango
lone sequoia
mystic rain
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even without soline its like matchup dependent for rapu to be 30% hp by the time she bursts

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very inconsistent

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its why u still see soda isntead of rapu for stun purposes

swift mango
covert lintel
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Idk what to do about this strange statNoahCry

mystic rain
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otherwise if rapu stun didnt have that condition i would agree she would be really strong in pvp

swift mango
mystic rain
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even if atk

lone sequoia
# swift mango Cindy dmg is smol now anyway

talking about all her dmg after release, compared to lib or anis now those don't have a bad side, you can say... lib have the delay but means nothing, the dmg is there and will land in most of the cases

covert lintel
lone sequoia
swift mango
mystic rain
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soda is consistent

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rapu is not

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is what im trying to say

swift mango
# mystic rain soda is consistent

Nah, Rapu stunning whole 2.1rl Moran team is sure win because they can't even burst and Scarlet just wipe.

Rapu stun to Scarlet solve everything that's 0.2rl slower than you.hmmz

mystic rain
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yea and atp why would i even build scar and rapu when moran and anis already exists

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esp for atk

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esp if im not playing for champs

mystic rain
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for actual pvp mains yea sure go build them if u need to

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but otherwise?

swift mango
mystic rain
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u really dont need rapu stun if ur gonna stun with priv after

tropic summit
swift mango
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You could ignore scarlet is you want (don't come asking why a team that could just be scarlet is so hard to beat though). hmmz

lone sequoia
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from sp to CA to sp and for pvp players you can just use way more units than pve players

swift mango
lone sequoia
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pve player probably can't play CA unless whales and if they have the resources they will build the units they want

mystic rain
tropic summit
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rapunzel stuns at B1, priv stuns at B3, rapunzel can prevent indom, privT can't pepehmmm

swift mango
lone sequoia
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one skip moran, other waste noah

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well, both can do the same, but i don't know what kind of bracket you are in

tropic summit
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although realistically building scarlet from scratch in 2026 is indeed a bit weird

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there's so many more things you can use for both pve and pvp, might aswell keep her benched

lone sequoia
mystic rain
covert lintel
lone sequoia
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the besti?

swift mango
tropic summit
lone sequoia
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i'm sure vesti can just skip 20% rapu HP

swift mango
tropic summit
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that's why soline makes it a surefire

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less headaches and RNG involved at minimun changes on opponents invest

swift mango
lone sequoia
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there are more units in the team, at the first soline proc vesti can just skip the 20%HP

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well, probably survive a base vesti

covert lintel
lone sequoia
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we can also reduce her S1 levels

swift mango
covert lintel
swift mango
mystic rain
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tbh tho i was actually a fan of rapu soline for champs but i remember trying it out vs other teams like noise noah lib with zero dmg and rapu just doesnt stun cuz shes too tanky at that speed

swift mango
lone sequoia
mystic rain
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ditched the idea when i remembered champs is rng matchup and ur not always gonna fight SG or vesti on ur rapu team

lone sequoia
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lib better or can slap vesti if you want

swift mango
mystic rain
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for champs not for atk rookie bro

swift mango
lone sequoia
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cheaper comps than scar/trina, speed+soline+nuke it is the same

swift mango
# mystic rain for champs not for atk rookie bro

If you don't have 21%+ CS on Helm, SW is the better unit because made you team 2.2rl instead of 2.5rl and useless because you can't stun 2rl Noah.

If you decided to use Soline, use it with SW.

lone sequoia
swift mango
mystic rain
lone sequoia
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you can add some 21%cs units or24%+ to make it better on top of recycling room 500s

swift mango
lone sequoia
mystic rain
swift mango
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Soline with Scarlet is bad

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Because scarlet kill enemy trigger SG sacc anyway if they hit her.

mystic rain
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or maybe i can...

lone sequoia
# swift mango Soline with Scarlet is bad

you are not reading, i said just use soline to make for a cheap team, instead of trying to make rapu stun work, then i said that lib or vesti can work (if they don't have teams)

swift mango
mystic rain
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is it better to have rapu linked?

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no right?

swift mango
swift mango
lone sequoia
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wasn't the shift to CA to use rapu stun... again?

swift mango
swift mango
# lone sequoia .

Yes, and not making Rapu stun in CA. You guys just come and assume.

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The fact that she can stun is what count not 100% stun. There is nothing 100% in CA.

mystic rain
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thats why i asked if its better to have rapu linked or not

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to make her stun more consistent or if its still not good

swift mango
mystic rain
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yea cuz i imagine rapu linked would make it harder to hit 30% hp

umbral crown
tropic summit
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let's bring back xanne CrownHUH

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oh she's wind code gonna have to be p4 BurninKek

swift mango
# mystic rain yea cuz i imagine rapu linked would make it harder to hit 30% hp

The trade between Rapu and Soda both p2 and no jackal.

Against Vesti team, Rapu probably stun and win no matter Noah or Blanc. Soda high chance might just die and can't burst, if Scarlet team has off burst LapT or Emi.

Against Libby, Rapu can't stun, So lose whether it's Blanc or Noah. Soda can 100% win against Noah, provide scarlet could wipe over Noise, but RNG on Blanc.

Against Rosa, Soda version usually does nothing, it's just your scarlet die first or their Rosa. Rapu could revive scarlet if died or Heal if not and still wipe.

Libby is less used than Vesti. So Rapu was more meta for awhile. But since SG team isn't popular anymore, Scar+Rosa is more meta now. Because it could deal with Libby Team as well depending on investment.

mystic rain
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yea vs lib teams rapu doesnt do shit cuz no dmg

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main tradeoff imo is the vesti matchups vs noah/blanc winrate

mystic rain
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oh vesti indom

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cant say ive seen vesti noah in champs

swift mango
mystic rain
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that actually sounds good tradeoff lowk

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scar team that can win vs absolute?

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damn

tropic summit
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@swift mango before i forget, this season champ

umbral crown
tropic summit
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guess he doesn't have absolute built, else he'd could've ran that instead and something leftover with noah

umbral crown
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Waos

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Makes sense

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Thats why peakgodsolute

oak smelt
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Any way to counter this without using my blanc indom team?

tropic summit
tropic summit
oak smelt
tropic summit
neon kelp
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Need help with this thanks 🙏

tidal lichen
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team3 might need quantums

tidal lichen
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how did 2 lose

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moran survived?

neon kelp
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I think im on deficit

tidal lichen
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could be

neon kelp
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Still, thanks for the help! AliceLove

tidal lichen
versed mesa
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@tropic summit The Rookie team you gave me is too effective. No one even tried to attack me today KEKW

limber rampart
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What are 3 team strongest def sp arena right now?

tropic summit
covert lintel
limber rampart
uncut crown
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@lone sequoia @mystic rain Thank you for the tips!

glad meteor
versed mesa
marble saddle
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Anyone know how much Ele and Atk OL on OSA is min for PVP?

mystic rain
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as much as u can

tacit arch
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any team to counter the enemy's? his indom mechanics with swha is kinda annoying

covert lintel
slender mesa
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@tropic summit this guy still is not being beaten reliably and I do not know why

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Can I swap someone with any of the new units?

glad meteor
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Sw electric weak, anis autos strong. Link can die pre burst

versed mesa
swift mango
versed mesa
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Oh I don't remember it giving a pull ticket, unless that is extra for every 1k

swift mango
swift mango
slender mesa
lavish lintel
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What do you think the odds of me beating this are?

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nvm found out the hard wae

slender mesa
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where is that spreadsheet with the burst speeds taht I see being screenshoted sometimes

lavish lintel
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pretty sure my lost is ebcause of how slow the autoburst is it reentered Anis & Moran but it was too late for Noah's

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fudge it.. lemme ditch Moran and add Biscuit instead

broken quest
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Guys I need some new attack teams, I can't even break top 10 after this arena reset 😭 What do I send? the box? or nikke bla bla?

glad meteor
lavish lintel
shell hazel
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someone gimme rocks or so

lavish lintel
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I ate it all

glad meteor
shell hazel
glad meteor
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Yeah won’t sadge

glad meteor
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I was struggling so just gave up

shell hazel
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liter helps a lot with the cover rep

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I'd like 20B+ at least but don't really see how I get it Crown_OwO

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if I can get I sleep there this boss is aids

tidal lichen
glad meteor
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Takina madge

shell hazel
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takina only works there if your Ein good

glad meteor
shell hazel
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mine ... is not lol

tidal lichen
glad meteor
tidal lichen
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ok maybe not that good but yea shes built

glad meteor
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I see

tidal lichen
glad meteor
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Yeah I gave up, i just built ele on ada

glad meteor
charred bobcat
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I finish MoranT, SWHA is ready, where what nikke she replace?

tidal lichen
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no

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ein is 70% atk

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vs ada 100

slender mesa
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so what the heck can I do again this team? I cannot seem to 100% make SW survive

glad meteor
tidal lichen
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wish i had isabel

shell hazel
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kricoun what is your score?

tidal lichen
shell hazel
shell hazel
# tidal lichen

@hollow lagoon next time we have an open spot we gotta kidnap kricoun

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and Rail (needs 2 open slots)

tidal lichen
hollow lagoon
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we too weak for him

shell hazel
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he does he just doesn't know it yet

tidal lichen
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i already have a guild blubbers

shell hazel
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you could have a better guild pepehmmm

glad meteor
hollow lagoon
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not a cult

shell hazel
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we also stealing Kara, we need 3 slots

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Kara - you coming with us GurenGun

tidal lichen
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im only sync 481 sadge

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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we have like

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sync 421s

hollow lagoon
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i mean

glad meteor
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I’m only sync 600

hollow lagoon
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i could daily focuse attack @tidal lichen in rookie untill he joins

tidal lichen
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wtf Blubbi

shell hazel
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you above our average

glad meteor
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That in bla bla?

shell hazel
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yep

glad meteor
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pepehmmm wdf

shell hazel
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is new

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but seriously, jokes aside, we always want good players who min-max good 🙂

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even if not highest sync

hollow lagoon
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better to have p2w

shell hazel
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I'd take sync 500 who knows how to play over sync 700 who doesn't

hollow lagoon
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we dont have 700 sync KEKW

shell hazel
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we do (it's you shortly tbh)

glad meteor
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Short

shell hazel
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yamiwo is close

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you'll prob beat him to 700 😄

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but per evil protocol, not yet

tidal lichen
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yo wtf happened to blabla union stuff

shell hazel
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some changes pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
tidal lichen
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theres even a recruitment post thing

shell hazel
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that was always there just people don't care and they farm your posts for likes

hollow lagoon
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see he's in a rank 89

swift mango
shell hazel
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oh you in Sanaol

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we'll out-rank soon pepehmmm

hollow lagoon
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i stalked him already

tidal lichen
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syncs here are omega high but

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they dont really minmax

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there are barely any minmaxers

hollow lagoon
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i dont min max either

tidal lichen
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i do waiting

hollow lagoon
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i'm the 2 ele master

tidal lichen
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u dont spend 3h on ur pulls? waiting

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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i pull but i cant rollll gear

shell hazel
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there was a dude in my SPA from sanaol but I long overtook em

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had a RH pfp

swift mango
hollow lagoon
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pribity self buff ele during her damage phase anyway

tidal lichen
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my priv isnt even ol'd

swift mango
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and that's with 20-50 rocks each.BurninKek

tidal lichen
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i dont want to pad her power

shell hazel
tidal lichen
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need her for 49.9s

shell hazel
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just swiping the pull thing over and over lmao

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I saved up between annis

swift mango
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you will surprise how little those are

hollow lagoon
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right i totally shoudl check how fast MC dies in interception

tidal lichen
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extremely fast

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you dont even do mech anymore

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on both hard and AI mc

hollow lagoon
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with my 2 ele units?

tidal lichen
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yes

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by not doing mech i mean anis taking care of slippers on ai and true dmg being the carry on hard

swift mango
shell hazel
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dunno felt like I was there for an hour either way 😄

hollow lagoon
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not sure if improved?

shell hazel
slender mesa
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Railtracer is asleep I guess...

shell hazel
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Kara kill the guy at the top would you?

tidal lichen
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use mmast

glad meteor
shell hazel
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that is legit advice AndersonLaugh

tidal lichen
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where tf did my reply go

tidal lichen
hollow lagoon
tidal lichen
shell hazel
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use mmast again

tidal lichen
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buff stacking is op

hollow lagoon
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i used mmast

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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at one point

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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but i just wanna try to not use mast

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
shell hazel
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I also like "send Kara"

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solves most issues 🙂

shell hazel
glad meteor
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Reset

tidal lichen
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12 rocks Scared

glad meteor
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Time to rob everyone rock madge

glad meteor
shell hazel
versed mesa
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Just got a plus 1 core on my Anis from the free roll AndersonLaugh

arctic jewel
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@tropic summit AnisTT/Mihara/Blanc/Biscuit/Cindy

glad meteor
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7+3

shell hazel
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given my anis is core max I want a free noen not anis lmao

tidal lichen
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got absolutely nothing.

versed mesa
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I only went for Mlb, but a free +1 is a free +1

shell hazel
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I went above and beyond for the 1st time lol

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never core maxed anyone before on purpose

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my core maxes now are:
anis
helmT (partially due to the point exchange)

arctic jewel
versed mesa
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I have 34 max cores now, and with the exception of Noah, none of them on purpose KEKW

versed mesa
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You get a surprising number of pulls by never skipping even a single day AndersonLaugh

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That said, over half of my Max core Nikkes are absolutely useless KEKW

shell hazel
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you can't stop the crow train - gomen!

shell hazel
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hopefully you can vote for (or against me) in the next CA 😄

prisma sail
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AliceLove thx buddy

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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@tropic summit

prisma sail
shell hazel
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I did them both and I will tell you now! you feel so free once you did both

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like you livin' on a cloud

prisma sail
shell hazel
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you can vote anything and it doesn't matter! so good

prisma sail
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mb cuz i not useed yet on pvp but it's be funn when u keep ask who's know more aboout it

shell hazel
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but I was pretty certain on tenshi taking semi final

prisma sail
shell hazel
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Lomarion basically cheating pepehmmm

prisma sail
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he's 100% win

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sad tk was really sure

shell hazel
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until he lost in final

prisma sail
shell hazel
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I voted for moran/blanc guy BehemothLaugh

prisma sail
shell hazel
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moran/blanc guy and tenshi both won too much

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we come to beat them next season

arctic jewel
#

We sure will...

prisma sail
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look this tk

humble tiger
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@tropic summit Tetra Mold finally gave something good.

prisma sail
shell hazel
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oh Sunless is TK?

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I don't see their pfp here

prisma sail
humble tiger
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It's not Blanc though. So I'm still.mad...

shell hazel
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is he here? 😮

prisma sail
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really wow

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mb next time he win ca

shell hazel
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is sunless in this discord or another?

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I wanna say hello if it's this one 🙂

prisma sail
shell hazel
#

which username?

prisma sail
shell hazel
proud yew
#

is Anis SR a better option than Centi with treasure for Scalert team?

prisma sail
shell hazel
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should be same username if you click em

prisma sail
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but u can join that server and text him .

shell hazel
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I just here 🙁

versed mesa
#

Are you guys talking about the CA cheer frames? I got the cheer for all winners by pure chance on the 3rd ever CA KEKW The loser frame though, I feel like I will never get, even if I vote on people I think will definitely lose, then they win anyway

shell hazel
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DexX needs loser frame

proud yew
prisma sail
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@shell hazel i sent text to him but he offline

arctic jewel
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If she was Phase 1, then it would have been OK

proud yew
arctic jewel
versed mesa
proud yew
scarlet adder
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@tropic summit in 4th image you have my "pvp" nikkes, are able you to cook something that would win 2 battles or hava a chance to do that.

arctic jewel