pvp-arena

[covert lintel]

Everyone is coping anis so much

[tight finch]

I mean you sub any b1 and gain big deeps

[covert lintel]

Not new anis
I mean sr one

[quick lake]

man, Im coping the MilkT comps

[covert lintel]

What kind of team for example?

[swift mango]

I will clear ziz at 601.

[quick lake]

Anis Milk Noah SWHA
Anis Milk MAncor SWHA

does anyone have a built Milk to test

[lunar pawn]

any ideas to run here?

can probably run moran on t1

does rosanna clear the trina immunity from scarlet?

[swift mango]

Nice of you to try it against pepega not enough bullet Vesti and off burst SW.

[covert lintel]

I suggest T2 with full RL nikke with vesti as nuker

[quick lake]

fair but off burst SWHA is good as well

[swift mango]

Off burst SW can't win against regular Nero team already unless they one shot Moran first.

But Mana rev was enough a lose

[covert lintel]

Example for T2 @lunar pawn

[flint elk]

can someone help me build teams?

[swift mango]

Nvm

[swift mango]

My investment on Privaty and Midhara was basically pointless because my helm much high CP.

Oh well

[lunar pawn]

smth like this?

[unique wagon]

Wallet

Can Nayuta Anis HelmTr outheal TVesti indom

[lunar pawn]

doubtful, without any DR

well even with DR you still have blanc

[glad meteor]

Anis burst can be taunted fully?

[unique wagon]

No, full screen dmg

[glad meteor]

[lunar pawn]

can ein burst be taunted?

[covert lintel]

For T2 yes

[lunar pawn]

might replace redpi for her in t3

[tiny scroll]

Any thoughts on the new harmony cube? Worth anything in PVP?

[unique wagon]

Does Nayu Anis Helm Biscu SAnis outheal indom TVesti? @quick lake

[quick lake]

I dont think so

I've tried HelmT + 2x SG, but still not enough heal to survive

The interval between shots is too long

So far the best HelmT beneficiary is SWHA, and imo Anis

[unique wagon]

Anis has more dmg than SG though

[quick lake]

Like SAnis? or IdolAnis

[unique wagon]

I mean is 1 TVesti volley the entire Anis HP pool

Ofc Idol Anis who uses Anis

[glad meteor]

No moran equal no outheal

[quick lake]

yeah, no Moran's DR also very tough

[unique wagon]

Priv is better then so can get 2nd Biscu activation

Wait

What second does TVesti volleys land

[quick lake]

idk

normal B3 timing i guess

[unique wagon]

Nayuta Anis Priv Biscu Helm better then

Though its weak against anti nuke says Railtracer

[lunar pawn]

that t3 did not work out

[quick lake]

not 2RL kinda tough

[unique wagon]

Would Rosa prevent any of those

Someone suggested Rosa instead of Moran

[hollow lagoon]

How do I fix this

[unique wagon]

Full reroll vest
Lock atk boots
On gloves: lock max ammo ig

[unique wagon]

Its 2 RL

Lol

All the teams I gave are 2 RL except TVesti blanc unless fed

[hollow lagoon]

Welp out of rock now got nothing

Ele neutral it is

[covert lintel]

T3 just simple rosa jackal will do
But your rosa need to strong enough to kill his b3

[glad meteor]

They’re on deficit. But i could’ve been faster right if they didnt die so quick

Vid loading

[quick lake]

This?

[lunar pawn]

mmm maybe

[unique wagon]

Huh that wasnt mine

[quick lake]

i thought u were referring to this comp

[unique wagon]

No my original comp

[quick lake]

which one was it

lost in the convo

[unique wagon]

Nayu AnisST Priv Biscu Helm
Moran Noah Trina/CentiTrP1 SWHA Lud/Makima
Jackal TVesti Blanc ClipRL Ada

[glad meteor]

Nvm. Mobile data sht scar trina helm sw aniss, bad comp but giga fast

[unique wagon]

2, 2, 2.5 RL*

[quick lake]

yeah, overall pretty good setup imo

[unique wagon]

Would Rosa be better than Moran

[quick lake]

yeah i think its possible alternative. Since opponent will likely run indom team to counter

[lunar pawn]

lud? that's refreshing

[quick lake]

lud, quiry, makima, folkwang can be revived whenever we have new viable pvp units

[unique wagon]

Can Rosa unconcealed one tap SWHA

Im wondering

[raven plover]

I remember back then I used folkwang scar

[swift mango]

only Bay work with it and Bay isn't very good as is.

[hybrid fox]

yes the SR one but I am out of attempts brother

[swift mango]

yes, just have enough ele.

[quick lake]

with ele and atk yes

[quick lake]

good ol' cooks

[unique wagon]

Hmm

[tacit arch]

is there any team recomendation to counter rosanna team? her burst kits is so annoying

[lunar pawn]

"rosanna team" is generic, gotta see case by case

[swift mango]

depend on the rest of their team but Moran, Cindy and biscuit is commonly used to beat team with Rosa.

[lunar pawn]

one way to do it is to not run any fast kill units that would give rosa gen

[swift mango]

Rosa can already be in 2rl team you don't need give her gen.

[dim sapphire]

Where anis likely to be in play for this ca?

[tacit arch]

can u guys who really good at pvp give me some team rec?, at the atk team i use siren to counter noah, so siren could stun her before she be using burst, but in defense i change siren with noise

[swift mango]

Funny you keep asking for counter but never showed enemy team.

[unique wagon]

If I use Noah Rosa SWHA who are good 2 others? @quick lake

I don't have Rosa. Just asking for idk cook

[tacit arch]

hol up XD

[lunar pawn]

fair, just dk what he's fighting

[quick lake]

HelmT + ClipRL?

[swift mango]

she is basically an extra SW and helm, we could bring 4-5 natural 2rl teams now, the CA lines up would change a lot like when SW released.

[unique wagon]

Used

[quick lake]

does this team become viable rumani for anis

[swift mango]

never

[swift mango]

oh you mean Anis.

[quick lake]

yeah

funny cope teams

[compact eagle]

Neon probably has busted burst gen too

[tacit arch]

i run out of attempt... cant check the enemy's team

[swift mango]

Still isn't very good. She would just die after she burst doing nothing

[swift mango]

come back tomorrow

[tacit arch]

can i see your team

[swift mango]

what team?

[tacit arch]

pvp 3vs3

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

This is my def team. Atk is defend on enemy. Def is basically just CP mostly.

[quick lake]

veryy poggy teams

[swift mango]

Your Nero stall was actually better because Anis now server as AoE dps that the team lack

[tacit arch]

is ur second team depends heavily on rosanna?

[lunar pawn]

mmm another giga whale in my bracket so nr 1+2 are taken, so far holding 3rd but I remember 2 of the new guys in my bracket used to be gem spammers

[quick lake]

yeahh, extra dmg

[unique wagon]

@quick lake same comp as earlier but Im changing the Noah comp to Noah Rosa SWHA idk who the last 2

Dont use units from other teams

[lunar pawn]

can I test anything anis related here?

[unique wagon]

Ideally 2 RL comp too?

Noah SWHA Rosa something

[swift mango]

Emi nuke fine as well if enemy is deficit or glass cannon. But yeah, only work because higher cp than enemy.

[quick lake]

u pvp master too

[swift mango]

indom Biscuit would slay

[quick lake]

dps biscuit treasure when

[unique wagon]

Noah Rosa XBrid SWHA Centi?

[swift mango]

After the make Clay combo with Bay

[unique wagon]

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

xBrid's nuke happens on fullburst

[unique wagon]

Noah XBrid SWHA Rosa Centi

[unique wagon]

She has a one target nuke

Idk anyone else

[quick lake]

i have finally finalised by CA cooks. New pilot test

[unique wagon]

If using Rosa might as well go on the offense

[lunar pawn]

I was testing a team shared here

[unique wagon]

What B2 has nuke other than Mari

[swift mango]

Maybe I would use Emi nuke again.

[lunar pawn]

nayuta

[swift mango]

this CA

[quick lake]

only Mari and Nayuta

[unique wagon]

If someone says ArcanaFM im gonna slap their a-

[quick lake]

My Mari is 4x atk OLs

[swift mango]

FM?

[lunar pawn]

does nihilister count

[unique wagon]

XBrid is better then

If Noah doesnt die, she still wipes

[swift mango]

xbrid is xbrick

[unique wagon]

Triple wipes

Noah XBrid SWHA Rosa ClipRL

That team is weak against TVesti who doesnt kill Noah

Does concealed Rosa kill TVesti @quick lake

So u have this variant

[quick lake]

relies on crit

[unique wagon]

If XBrid also deals 500%?

[swift mango]

she won't do anything and just die

[unique wagon]

But 5 shots 500% dmg

[quick lake]

possibly yeah. I think should be able to kill, if no noise/moran buffs

[swift mango]

if noah died she won't survive either

[unique wagon]

Who wont survive

One is fire one is wind bro

[restive heart]

@gaunt viper looks like i can still defeat his team despite huge cp gap

665 vs 747

[swift mango]

If rosa could one shot Vesti, maybe. If not Vesti would just kill xbrick right after

and SW as well

[covert lintel]

He might be SR focused

[swift mango]

or just casual whaling

[restive heart]

yea he from dynasty so he competitive.

[unique wagon]

Noah XBrid SWHA Rosa ClipRL
Moran Noah Trina SWHA Lud/Makima

Which should I invest in

[restive heart]

thats KING.

[swift mango]

he is just bricked and used all his saved gem. Now he quited

[swift mango]

I would go with neither...... later team could use someone else like xsoline instead of those 2 to deal with sg

[worldly wadi]

How do I beat this team? This guy has it out for me and keeps attacking me all the time

[restive heart]

swha-blanc-helm-redhood-jackal

[worldly wadi]

Barely, but it works—thanks

[lunar pawn]

tried MC with just anis and no moran

swha got melted

[swift mango]

Eyy, just look at peeps MLB Anis in 100 pulls I feel like quitting.

[pliant totem]

guys this happened and I dont know what im doing
any teams or guides out there?

[last vigil]

What is a good def and a guaranteed 2 team win atk comp

[swift mango]

just copy pasta

[pliant totem]

I usually place 10th in the sp arena and tried my luck pushing and no one attacked me back

[pliant totem]

just copy other players teams? or is there a guide that shows the strats of pvp.

[lunar pawn]

does stanis trigger crown s2?

[coarse solstice]

#pvp-arena message

Here's some basics and team building gl on CA 🙂

[flint elk]

?

[coarse solstice]

@gritty ridge Loves building teams 😁

Faster would be to check out the link I just posted and see if you can build what's listed there.

[covert lintel]

I *2 in 200pull then use gold tix

[flint elk]

how much investment do pvp units need?

[last vigil]

qqq

[flint elk]

i cant rlly afford to build anyone atp

[coarse solstice]

Depends on the unit, you can check out this site for general recommendations. It not 100% accurate though https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/tier-list/

[strange linden]

Still asking btw

[coarse solstice]

Tbh if your just starting out focus on your main campaign team and save until you can chip away at pvp as your resources allow.

[raven plover]

you have 200 pulls

[flint elk]

on like chapter 35 in campaign

[coarse solstice]

You should have enough units built that cross over between PvP and PvE to make a few of the teams. If theyre not fully invested just sub in as best you can

[forest zodiac]

people already unsing anis in pvp?
what do I do with this?

[keen vapor]

SR5 doll and basic overload

[swift mango]

@quick lake

[quick lake]

Im still waiting for an Besti Blanc Ada test, my gut feel is it might survive

[quick lake]

hi ura! havent seen u in awhile

[keen vapor]

Ur a what

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit breh

she got em

she made th mfker bend the knee

tiwas beautiful

[covert lintel]

Change bay to neon later

[small gale]

Star Anis is PVP relevant yes?

[odd lantern]

is the attacker here attacking from lower level?

[quick lake]

Attacker is bottom, regular SPA

[odd lantern]

yeah, my question was what was the level gap between them

if any

[swift mango]

There is 20 level gap but no deficit.

[quick lake]

So far all the Nero Anis comps work

Need to find a buffed Lib

[coarse solstice]

Anis has me pumped for the next few seasons figured I'd better lurk in main cord for a while. Miss you guys 😁

[odd lantern]

hmm interesting. solo vesti deals less than half damage on burst to a moran nero comp? star anis just adds 10% HP on top right?

[quick lake]

yeah! miss seeing u! Anis is a game changer alright

[swift mango]

You don't need Libby to be buffed.

[quick lake]

15% HP yeah. Burst gen helps too

[raven plover]

[quick lake]

U think unbuffed libby can nuke?

[swift mango]

Why not?

[quick lake]

[raven plover]

I think I saw Koy nero moran survived lib before but then again we cant check investment

[analog barn]

this team worked, thanks!

[compact eagle]

Can I reach 1RL with Anis SWHA and Helm?

[analog barn]

what are the best 3 defend teams for SP arena these days? I have every Nikke but my PvP knowledge hasn't been updated for the last 6 months

[gaunt viper]

sheesh okay . also thats person I eventually beat hit back a couple hours later

[swift mango]

No

[compact eagle]

[raven plover]

maybe if the enemy 5 sg you can

[covert lintel]

Btw idk why this server icon reverted to rapi again

[forest zodiac]

could someone help me with that pls?

[swift mango]

Why not?

[covert lintel]

It should be anis turn

[unique wagon]

Those what

The key is not SGs

Theyre not used for SGs

Theyre used for indom

If I want to use Rapu Soline, I cant use SWHA cus she is not instant

Lud with 75% DR (when Blanced) is pretty much immortal. As long as the enemy isnt Indom Ada.

Indom Ada is annoying alr anw

[swift mango]

I mean ludmilla and makima basically useless here.

[unique wagon]

Theyre not. They always win Adaless indom war.

Indom*

[swift mango]

What's indom war?

[unique wagon]

My bad added war by mistake

They make sure ur team outlasts Adaless indoms*

Cus they "indom" longer

[livid marsh]

Just screenshot (without the menu please)

[unique wagon]

Rosa variant is ofc better here but Idw invest Rosa

[swift mango]

Makima only 7 sec though. If she got wipe she had less time. Ludmilla just got countered to death of vs scarlet

[unique wagon]

Noah immune 3s

Then if she gets wiped after its alr longer

Scarlet makes sense thats why I want Rosa :(

[compact eagle]

The enemy's last team is indom, which I think the only way to beat is to either: burst first and full wipe before they get indom, stun Blanc before they burst to prevent indom, or also use indom team that's slightly slower so indom outlasts theirs

But I'm not a PvPer so don't take my word for it

[swift mango]

I guess you could go with Makima. At least she counter SG back shot

[unique wagon]

But Im sure if u use Scar u wont wipe anyway

Gets blocked by Noah and u just RNG for 10s?

How can pvp def be SG back shot

That team has anti wipe but its weak against enemies who anti nuke SWHA (says Rail)

Thats why I want Rosa cus she nukes before Noah

[heady peak]

So what is this moron nero starnis team stall comp I keep hearing about

is it actually worth having? doesn't it seem a waste for champs arena

[unique wagon]

Oh wait nvm he said its weak against 5 RL Cindy

Idk if Rosa changes 5 RL Cindy outcome

[green summit]

I need help beating this SP Arena team.

[unique wagon]

I dont think Rosa can help with 5 RL Cindy anyway

Also Lud is better against 5 RL Cindy by my math

[swift mango]

Oh if it's def team in SpA. Rapu stun, Privaty stun chain, slow Cindy, Libby, linked Rosa... It's the same loss as any Moran+Noah+SW.

2rl with quantum

[unique mountain]

I need halp in bettor pics

[gaunt viper]

@restive heart did you use Anis to beat him? I heavily invested my Anis but idk how to utilize her still

[forest zodiac]

presence of anis in t3 scares me

[unique wagon]

No ones gonna build Rapu Soline in my pvp brother

[swift mango]

Rapu alone can stun, no need soline

[compact eagle]

It means they burst fast, and the damage output is going to be ridiculously high

[unique wagon]

Wow waste attempt if u fail guess

[restive heart]

nope.

[swift mango]

It's not SG or Vesti, SW alone won't kill in 2rl.

[whole ocean]

Is it safe to skill reset winter anne, I don't think she is used anymore

[unique wagon]

U think

[swift mango]

I just did. If you wanted to use her just go 447

[unique wagon]

Im sure no one sane will see that in team and go "I guess im gonna Rosa this sh"

[swift mango]

I'm more worry that Rapu won't be low enough HP to stun.
Soda can stun just fine though.

[versed mesa]

Oh man, still C1. Someone knocked down the C3 who took it once from me earlier and then tried to hit me once but defense held.

[unique wagon]

But that's why I prefer the Rosa variant

The Rosa variant is stronger

[swift mango]

My Rosa has 60% Ele, linked with Jackal and I could kill SW over Moran.

[unique wagon]

Noah Rosa SWHA

Kill Noah, get nuked immediately.
Not kill Noah, you immune.

The counter is also... Rosa wow what a beautiful time it is NOT to build Rosa

[swift mango]

That team is even worse but yeah, could annoy them for one time if they are clueless.

So put it up until they beat it.

[unique wagon]

Just 2 RL Priv stun trust

Possible with Anis chan

Nayuta Anis Priv X HelmTr

Any RL thats not 350% = 2 RL nuke

[restive heart]

i alr defeated him using my team

[unique wagon]

Gotta be 3/3

[restive heart]

his 1st team 3.5m cp. gaps too huge around 1.2m

[unique wagon]

True

[versed mesa]

Gonna be honest, I now miss the old bracket Even though now there is no one with a massive synchro lead, there are more people at or close to 700+ than before. So more potential opponents within cp range.

[unique wagon]

@lusty gull Are u the creator of deck

[lusty gull]

[unique mountain]

[lone sequoia]

it looks fine for sp, rosanna still a problem, but for CA i still think the bay version is better, the problem is that she need +21%cs, i would probably use tt as the only b1, too much dmg there

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

another option is just mana/rapu swap and try to go with tt p1... nero or moran p5

[fading ermine]

how i like makima bro

[versed mesa]

May Nihilister bros have mercy on my soul , but Anis needs skill books. I had to do it, I had to reset Nihilister

[umbral belfry]

the fact that you even skilled nihil (despite being best heretic) deserves bullying

get him

[lone sequoia]

watch SU give treasure to nihilister, doro, xrupee and liter

[umbral belfry]

[gaunt viper]

ah, hmmm. haven't tried Priv for it before still

[versed mesa]

Dragon mommy is dragon mommy

[umbral belfry]

[arctic jewel]

You poor soul

[umbral crown]

Waos, too stronk

42 is only one

[unkempt flame]

@tropic summit Hello I am once again asking for guidance on my sp arena defense teams

[whole ocean]

Thank you for updating the deck

[arctic jewel]

The only thing I see here is Helm

[lusty gull]

[cedar sorrel]

Nikke deck best

[whole ocean]

@lusty gull I want to know why you put Biscuit is SS tier in the list and not SSS tier?

[lusty gull]

because normal burst gen mostly

[whole ocean]

Oh ok, because she enables so many teams is my opinion

[lusty gull]

it's true but i can say the same about some others ss

i'm agree that she could be sss because she's maybe easier to add, i will think about it another time, i want to make some changes

[coarse solstice]

[whole ocean]

Sounds good, take your time about it

[quick lake]

oh man, im so tempted

[versed mesa]

You monster

[quick lake]

should have done 4/10/1

i reset my EmmaTU and EunhwaTU waste my resrouce

[coarse solstice]

I just needed the last little bit and then 7d her

Opposite over here I just finished absolute

[quick lake]

man, no wonder I keep losing CA

[coarse solstice]

Rng is rough out here

Hoping the preform ok with the new Anis meta

[fair pivot]

So Vesti will now need Ada to beat new Anis? What about those of us who skipped Ada

[cedar sorrel]

Holy brick

[merry patio]

some of us don't even know how to use anis in pvp yet, let alone counter her 🤣

[coarse solstice]

No Ada hurts 😔

[tropic summit]

well you need massively huge RRH, without the ultra invest i put in it wouldn't clear this sh*t

may be of reference for you too in case @proven mauve (converting video)

@shell hazel @swift mango

[shell hazel]

someone is hacking

[tropic summit]

the margin of error was so small at the end i was sweating

[shell hazel]

i'll try it at 461 but I'm not sure I'll have enough power

[umbral crown]

Nikke deck has T.T.Anis?

[tropic summit]

561 i wasn't surviving

even with crown shield and full tempura

581 i started living

[ivory violet]

yeah

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-world-of-warcraft-wow-how-do-you-kill-that-which-has-no-life-no-life-gif-18347088

[umbral crown]

581 rail?

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

So wheel

[umbral crown]

Waos, T.T.Anis better than snow in gen

Now we cooking

And just wait when Neo Neon comes

[tropic summit]

583 because i needed that extra CP to live and to actually finish it off at the end

[umbral crown]

Imma get close to you this year, trust

[gaunt pulsar]

and that's without her skill1 bonus

[tropic summit]

splurged 100 rocks to boost OLs for crown, moran and mmast

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

My moran just got 10k cp more

[umbral crown]

Then my moran could be over 350 if 581

[tropic summit]

i made my crown have more CP than cindy that's crazy now that i look at it

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Thats normal

My cindy cp is really low

[tropic summit]

at first i thought i'd clear with vestiTU over mmast

it was fairly close

but then had to 💺

[tropic summit]

post your current 3 def and your box

[umbral crown]

Well cindy not that low i guess

Guess rail scar can be the next unit i reset

[unkempt flame]

would a blabla link work?

[tropic summit]

this?

#pvp-arena message

replace xmaiden in T2 with anisTT or drakeT in T1

[tropic summit]

ye sure

[tropic summit]

hmm i'm still using her in SP arena if anything

until they powercreep her s2/instant nuke kit

[umbral crown]

Since label is a thing , i stoppes using her

Not sp not CA

[silent torrent]

how can I beat this team? I was thinking ein indom for the drones against vesti but then I saw label so now I'm not sure

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit ill defeat you one day

[unkempt flame]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtOTYxNzI2NDkzMTY3OTQ0NDc1Ng%3D%3D @tropic summit

[tame vessel]

[tropic summit]

• the anti nuke counter is correct, but you're wasting noah for a team that doesn't actually need her, they've lib B3, you can punish with a 2RL cindy on moran bay biscuit or moran anchorIM or ttanis, moran, trina biscuit cindy
• the scar mirror is downright RNG, i don't think it's gonna be very consistent, prefer a slower indom (e.g. 2RL ein) or if you free up noah you can run stall noah biscuit helmt laplaceT noise or similar (2RL noah + biscuit archetype)
• T3 i'd skip if you don't have vestiTU + ada, expensive team to deal with

[unkempt flame]

Was that the right blabla link? lol

[tropic summit]

that's the problem with ttanis re-enter, you're slower on reaching B1 (moran), also your biscuit stacks didn't go to moran but TT and cindy from what it looks like

against nayuta 2RL you want to reach asap anti nuke and you better have a noah/bay/anchorIM B2 up asap to survive then nuke back

[versed mesa]

Okay Anis is just omega broken I have tried so hard to get mirror container down all 9 health bars, with treasure moran, cindy, s.anis, crown and xMaiden. I don't even have a doll on Anis, or any manufacturer equipment to even overload. I killed mirror container first test mock battle, without even destroying the slippers.

Swapped treasure moran out with her

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel you seeing this? how does he do that

must be f2p magic

[tropic summit]

noah helmt biscuit siren swha

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/gov-nikke-helm-kimono-helm-nikke-gov-nikke-helm-nikke-gif-8435078304331634369

[silent torrent]

I was between that or Nayu thelm RH drake swha

I was able to win with this team but I'll keep in mind the other one

[tropic summit]

laplace treasured ye?

[silent torrent]

how does it win tho, like does helm simply outheal indom dmg?

[versed mesa]

Anyone still stuck on MC in campaign, get Anis as soon as possible.

[unkempt flame]

yea

[undone blaze]

Im still getting 1 shot before I can burst xd

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh lapalceT
• moran siren swha lib noah
• jackal privT anisTT blanc vestiTU

[forest zodiac]

will this work or there is better way to do this?

[tropic summit]

you force a drakeT B3 over a vestiTU B3, which results in a stallable vestiTU for your swha on lifesteal and biscuit on invulnerability

[silent torrent]

I see, thanks!

[unkempt flame]

Awesome thank you🙏🙏

[tropic summit]

your T1 is too slow

at 3RL you take lethal on p2 p3 p4 p5

liberalio bypasses biscuit

(on non invulnerable units)

[unkempt flame]

Just a quick question, what does the end of helm treasure say? It's cut off

[versed mesa]

What is your team? Of course if you are in too much of a deficit nothing except getting higher will fix that.

[tropic summit]

@forest zodiac it's a biscuitless moran noah, punish it with indom swha on 2 buffs

[forest zodiac]

thank you

[tropic summit]

treasure phase 2, s1 lvl 10

[versed mesa]

You should put Crown in P1, also VestiTU is awful for bosses, do you have any other B3 with roughly the same cp, and preferrably Electric code?

[undone blaze]

Ein and Noir both have more cp than vesti, I only had her because the team burst so slowly

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon hackeroni

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit Zant is trying to lap me

he's accelerating in pace

[tropic summit]

he's running weird voodoo tech

[shell hazel]

he's getting further away from me

[sinful iris]

op wrong chat

[shell hazel]

but I have the low ground, which he can't take

[tropic summit]

my whels have engaged each others for the first time in 1 year and a half

instead of gangb4nging me

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-wars-whale-gif-23907568

[tropic summit]

for once they didn't just auto my ass

or maybe it's psycological warfare from preventing me to daily sniping them

[hollow lagoon]

ill dfeat u one day

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it--k01KPXNM9D987SY38S6K66W85MG

[versed mesa]

Vesti burst gen doesn't really work well with bosses. I haven't really used Ein at all, but she would be better damage and if her CP is higher that is even better, anything to shrink deficit should be first priority.

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-not-this-day-not-today-lord-of-the-rings-gif-14797074

[shell hazel]

pretty soon zanta will have enough sync to be 20% of union dmg on his own

[undone blaze]

Tried cindy, noir and ein, i just have to wait for 1-2 more core levels ig

[shell hazel]

and then it's zanta so cursed +25% dmg

[versed mesa]

Actually you should get Liter out if possible. Anis buffs only work if she is the only B1, otherwise she does re-burst skill. You could swap Liter to the left of Anis so Liter bursts instead

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tom-petty-tom-petty-and-the-heartbreakers-5--k01KPXNT2N7PVCJ3SWGF51FCFR2

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Uninterrupted-shop-uninterrupted-the-Vcw2n5bmvxvF6idxA8

[tropic summit]

story was peak, good shiet... and i wasn't prepared for the Doro part

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel lets defeat rail and make him into a fine cultist

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chuckles-im-in-danger--k01KPXNXH9Y27BP8GGZF4WFK9R5

[shell hazel]

we don't do that here

we convert them into cultists

[versed mesa]

Oh wait you have Cindy? She is like the bread and butter for killing MC, definitely have her in the team too.

[hollow lagoon]

you are saying we cant defeat him still?

[shell hazel]

we don't need to defeat him

it's all about the conversion

https://tenor.com/view/wololo-age-of-empires-empires-szaman-shaman-gif-21642499

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wololo-age-of-empires-1--k01KPXNZYEWZJTSVRP78W487GYR

[shell hazel]

snap!

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko--k01KPXP08E7JH29FH28TA2S94Z4

[tropic summit]

great minds think alike

[shell hazel]

that is why you'd make a great cultist!

[hollow lagoon]

damn

not even mid way into chapter 45 and the enemy cp is already 3 million

[shell hazel]

you've also defeated enough CN whales to practically be one

so you can swap out for our CN guy who doesn't talk and it works

[hollow lagoon]

yeah rail can outperform the cn whale

or cn f2p

whatever that thing doing only 36b is

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mona-f2pbtw--k01KPXP42NW3W6JP8RFR331B4PZ

[tropic summit]

he's trying his bestest surely

people playing one handed and shiet

[hollow lagoon]

around my sync doing half my damage yeahhhhhhh

you be right 1 hand=half the dmg

[gritty ridge]

Yeah imagine only doing 36 bil

[hollow lagoon]

as a sync 641

[gritty ridge]

Glad that's not me

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit I just saw the new sky video about Anis

Does Vesti have a new friend?

[tropic summit]

• vestiTU blanc rh centi jackal
• jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit ill defeat yu one day

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel stop him

[arctic jewel]

Rail vs Zant

[swift mango]

Well, my 200 rocks on Rapi only 90 Ele and 20atk. You can eat it up.

[arctic jewel]

Who will get to the top?

[charred quail]

I think i need to roll for you bro

[crystal flicker]

I feel like I need to ful save for Neon

[tropic summit]

the things i had to do to clear that sh*t

[swift mango]

100 rocks you mean.

[swift mango]

I did 260 pull for 2 Anis dupes then check Blabla someone MLB in 100.

It is what it is

This game hate me you can't convince me otherwise.

[tropic summit]

i did 150+ pulls and only got one copy, rejoice

[swift mango]

Do 100 more you will get more

[tropic summit]

hell nah i can see that trap from a mile away

[swift mango]

I mean one of my dupe needed 180 pulls.

Pull is a thing but my rock even worse.

Somehow I often get lucky with my doll upgrade now. But other probably even luckier.

[tropic summit]

doll upgrade is easy compared

gacha RNG for pulling is downright BS in this game

you see ppl finding MLB within 50-100, then ppl who find one copy after 400 pulls

no middle ground, either f*ed or lucky

[silent grotto]

now with anis i would like to update my defense because i have a slight feeling it is lacking, would anyone be so kind to help me out?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-stop-him-brian-hull-how-can-we-put-a-stop-to-him-how-can-we-stop-him-how-will-we-stop-him-gif-7303810082392251465

[tropic summit]

post box or blabla link set to public

[swift mango]

I got 2 Black line today but both line 1 only and Crit or Ammo. No AtK or ele or CS. That's all the black line I got in 4 months.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/how-is-that-even-possible-stephen-sharer-1--k01KPXQXM1E1KRR9TXDDY2TY6XE

[silent grotto]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?openid=MjkwODAtMTIxNDI3NjU4NjU3MDExNzY1NTQ=

[shell hazel]

[warm monolith]

New best team for tetra tower?

I spent 120 pulls on anis and she didnt come so im rocking this...

[sick gulch]

so how is overspec anis in pvp

[shell hazel]

strong

[sick gulch]

how is her burst gen

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta privT helmT anisTT laplaceT
• moran siren swha lib noah
• jackal scarlet bsoda blanc drakeT

Notes

• build up vestiTU and emilia asap
• increase CP on blanc, noah, biscuit, jackal

[tropic summit]

2nd best in the game

[silent grotto]

i see thank you!
what is it that im lacking on vesti and emilia, more attack or CP or something else?

[tropic summit]

CP for the most part compared to the other units

[silent grotto]

ok thank you!

[odd lantern]

@tropic summit question about CA, if ignoring opportunity costs, is this team functionally similar to the slow blanc cindy team? or worse?

[fading birch]

I have used that before in CA, it won sometimes

[placid bloom]

your have no buffs to kill through enemy defensive tools on this team and no secondary win condition like Mihara DoT even if Moran can stall

[tropic summit]

4RL cindy is partially effective against anti nuke 2RL noah
the other problem with that team is that you're not running blanc or strong buffers, blanc is very useful in slow teams to deny DR stacking (nero, moran, noise, bay etc)

when running biscuit try to also have your defenders in p1 and p5, it denies SGs fully

[minor egret]

Wondering where I should put my TTanis in my defense teams. I have some ideas but I don't know if it's too risky or not. Also my SWHA feels a bit weak with Trina, maybe I should reput Biscuit but it become 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

absolute teams generally don't run ada or jackal, what does the team look like?

[swift mango]

It's tricky to use her for her offense effect.

[tropic summit]

T1 is good
T2 i'd shift around swha and lib, lib has poor threat when defending, rest is fine
T3 looks ok

as for anisTT, she works in different archetypes but her kit makes her useful in any archetype regardless, you can replace xmaiden for her or trina or RH

oh a fast absolute i see, you'd need scarlet to survive the 2RL barrage, in general she won't

[umbral belfry]

I would pay good money to never see this absolute team ever again

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit
is this team recc from you (right side) still correct for the enemy team (left)
any specific cubes or CS%?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cyberbullying-typing--k01KPXS56395RFSNKYHDE37PVB6

[umbral belfry]

[quick lake]

left loses

[minor egret]

Yeah I think I should give up on the idea of using Anis as a re-enter in def

[marble saddle]

yes thats what im hoping

[swift mango]

10b$ to buy SU share.

[tropic summit]

ye counter is good but you need to have enough dmg to pop biscuit stack on moran and noah, you might want to help vestiTU with an emilia/laplaceT/SWHA or an SG for moran

[umbral belfry]

whale

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

where lib skin

[umbral belfry]

🐟

[tropic summit]

show us the skins

[umbral belfry]

tbh I actually prefer her og skin but her gacha is alright

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

@quick lake "alright" she says...

[marble saddle]

well if i swap Thelm for swha my CP just shifts a bit

[minor egret]

She's fast

[quick lake]

both are great, but goth libby is nice too

[marble saddle]

should still work

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

you know your units best, just pop those stacks and you're fine
if you don't pop biscuit on moran, you dedge

[marble saddle]

im not worried. hes about 100 point higher than me
i lose only 10 points
i win 20

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stonks-up-stongs-1--k01KPXSCCMJRPCVFP1SKBN0F2VS

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-see-youre-a-man-of-culture-as-well--k01KPXSDDNR0EPF0294YMDZS1TQ

boy nothing beats running hyperbuffed vestiTU right into that rapture that reflects damage

[marble saddle]

well you did say id die if not enough atk

misindo at a glanc

[tropic summit]

how many times has it been and you still don't check your links

shooting. range.

[quick lake]

misindom

[tropic summit]

1. check jumping jackal
2. check HP on linked units

[swift mango]

No among of AtK could make Blanc buff off burst SW win against Moran.

[tropic summit]

ros in p2 gets her cloak removed

scar-trina still dies to vestiTU barrage, she's invulnerable from 0RL to 1RL, vestiTU lands right after

[marble saddle]

im pretty sure vesti and swha were linked. but as for hp. swha is losing.
can i put vigor cube on swha to prevent misindo?

[tropic summit]

you can hit the shooting range and check HP with vigor cube equipped

[molten bough]

is the new anis good at pvp too?

[tropic summit]

yes, roll her

[lethal karma]

has anyone figured how fast is anis RL at S1 lv 10?

[swift mango]

Yes

[tropic summit]

i don't think you're thinking this through

[molten bough]

what spot should she be?

[versed mesa]

I only need 3 skill books level 3 to 10/10/10 Anis, just skill 2 at 9 left

[tropic summit]

@torn geode this is a possible counter, p1 p2 defender units, p3 can be biscuit sacc, p4 and p5 are your damage and batteries

[marble saddle]

Vesti + jackal
vs
SWHA + Vigor + jackal

[versed mesa]

I'm going to just throw her into one of my random CA teams for a goof since I have no overloads or doll on her even.

[tropic summit]

click on this guy profile: @swift mango

and join that discord, it has a good chunk of CA champs

[tropic summit]

spots are correct, run as is

[molten bough]

so no anis?

[tropic summit]

if she doesn't tank CP replace lib with anis

[molten bough]

ok thanks

[jagged current]

Oh boy.... this is the first time I'm seeing it happen. Although I managed to keep 4th place throughout the whole SP Arena last season, somehow I still managed to land first place in "collected points". Still, I don't feel like joining C.A. My CP is too low, my Nikkes still not there yet. Stilll, a surprising day nonetheless. 🙂

[lethal karma]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-boom-skull-boom-gif-27328017

that is bonkers

i expected anis SR levels of good but holy moly

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

intern-kun pressed a few numbers more than needed

[vapid barn]

Can I get an update for SP arena pls

[tropic summit]

witness the power of shooting range

[versed mesa]

Just throw your strongest SP defense teams and fill the last two with the scraps or hell even just auto fill.

[jagged current]

Is there any sort of reward for participating and finishing last, though? XD

[versed mesa]

There is no worthwhile rewards for finishing first

[minor egret]

Which one for def? Anis is linked to Jackal with Maiden and no Emilia (I can put her in another team)

[versed mesa]

So finishing last is the same, but less

[jagged current]

Hahaha, good one. I'll be skipping it for the time being. Maybe after I'm level 300 then... 🙂

[lethal karma]

[versed mesa]

Like it is basically just an ego stroke, if you win and get the avatar frames. But if you don't care about that CA is kinda just meh

[quick lake]

NeoNeon gonna be stonks too

[marble saddle]

does OSA need CS% on her OL stats? or is it irrelevent at this point?

[jagged current]

I don't really care, no. I COULD care if there were gems in the mix, though. 🙂
But seeing that's not the case, then its ok.

[minor egret]

Neon damage looks absurd and there's Anis to buff her

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta privT helmT anisTT laplaceT
• jackal vestiTU emilia blanc lib
• moran noah biscuit swha drakeT

[tropic summit]

if anis linked, get vestiTU indom with anis in p5, emi p3, blanc p4

[vapid barn]

Much appreciated

[versed mesa]

I only care about the gems so I aim for top 3 everytime in SP, just so happens that it also puts me in CA automatically. Been in every single season since it started, only gotten through the first advance stage twice to top-64

[quick lake]

Slightly behind Cindy i think. honestly not sure bout her pvp. Still decent at leasy

[covert lintel]

normal atk firepower?

[jagged current]

Still fire, though. Nice! 😄

This was my first time. I'll pass for now. Thanks for explaining, mate.

[quick lake]

Probably similar to VestiTU i think

[covert lintel]

But wasn't stage target mean all rapture only?

[minor egret]

Emilia Vesti gets the link, oh well

[marble saddle]

@quick lake how did your pulls for OSA go?

[tropic summit]

that's fine, jackal vestiTU anis blanc emilia

run that team in shooting range and ensure vestiTU has lower HP than emilia

if she doesn't swap to jackal emi anis blanc vestiTU

[minor egret]

I don't see her behind Cindy, these full charges will hit hard and she'll probably scale well with a combination of ammo/charge speed. It's just absurd how much damage SBS gain in damage with Anis to buff her

[covert lintel]

I've seen someone complaining about neoneon in feedback already

[minor egret]

It's all good but I have to tempering Vesti for it. Thanks for the advises

[tropic summit]

there's a thread open by snake already

#pvp-arena message

[versed mesa]

Just put whatever teams. It is so rng heavy since the team order is locked in after prep, so even with super optimal teams can just be screwed over by your opponent having the exact counter in the team spot

Tbh I think that rng was the only thing that gave me those two passes through advance, those 2 times I made it.

[minor egret]

They always do that though, then she gets released and everyone love her. I saw someone telling Anis wasn't much better than Liter

[covert lintel]

Ah yes that's the channel

[keen patio]

There's a guy 15 sync levels ahead of me who copies my defence team and relies on his higher sync to defeat me. I'm assuming he's using the same on attack.

Any suggestions about how to defend against my own team? I have a few ideas that involve exploiting Team 2 and 3

[lethal karma]

is ok she will be 1RL unit it evens out

[tropic summit]

you generally won't defend against indom, so you can ignore that
T2 weak to anti nuke or rosanna or siren or slow cindy
T3 weak to indom or 2RL-3RL bay-biscuit / noah and DPS B3

[maiden bay]

So what's the verdict on Anis?

[maiden bay]

She's Core 1 for me lmao, best B1 for pvp?

[quick lake]

Godnis truly. best unit everywhere

[tropic summit]

defender, 2nd best clipRL, gives team free quantum, buffs, heals, CDR, increase HP, can DPS offburst or onburst

the only thing she lacks is indom, stun and taunt then we can uninstall

[undone blaze]

In pvp do u want to reenter with anis or no?

[jagged current]

TiTi Anis is Clip RL? Awesome.

[marble saddle]

what Ol stats for her? 3 CS% 1 Ammo?

[tropic summit]

it depends if you can afford to reneter or not (e.g. vs instant nukers)

[tropic summit]

lack data atm on how much you gain with extra CS%

[quick lake]

works as per normal RL. 1% is 0.01s

[arctic jewel]

Bruh

[tropic summit]

so normal thresholds of 11%-15% etc?

[quick lake]

yep as per normal RL 1s charge time

[swift mango]

She probably needs less CS than common RL. Her 8% is equal to other RL 11%

[arctic jewel]

It's always like this... complaining before the release...

[tropic summit]

ah nice that's simple enough

[gaunt pulsar]

her 2nd shot lands faster and 3rd etc

[quick lake]

idk about travel time

[placid bloom]

she has no reload between shot 1 and shot 2

that's the diff

[tropic summit]

so potentially she has better gains the higher the CS%

[lunar pawn]

any other anis teams people wanted me to test or do I just use up my remaining rookie attempts on whatever?

[swift mango]

No swing up animation

[quick lake]

but 2 to 3 has?

[keen patio]

Thanks for the suggestions!

In particular, I'm trying to cook a team that can defeat Team 2 and 3 in any order

I'm thinking of relying on Rosanna sacc and Rosanna/Nayuta's burst to snipe the attackers. Since this will be on defence, I put Cindy in P5 to deny burst gen from Helm/Libe

[placid bloom]

so she keeps standing until she runs out of ammo, like Lib

[quick lake]

ah yes, no cover animation yes

Hmm, probably slightly faster than regular rl

[covert lintel]

I have an idea but later
I'm afraid someone's gonna use it on ca

[umbral belfry]

I think so yeah, just her burst cs is fixed

but otherwise I'd assume you would want cs on her like usual rls

[tropic summit]

hmmm T1 and T2 are interesting but T3 is very abusable, they just need to run low hitters and a few snipers to deny sacc, reconsider that one

[spark granite]

Is this winnable?

[lunar pawn]

I'm NA, you can share

[tropic summit]

you can't kite indom vestiTU + ada, you should get countered there

[lunar pawn]

I'm afraid I might just reshuffle my teams this season and switch rumani for anis, and call it a day

[spark granite]

Is there a better option or am I too low because of their comp

[keen patio]

This is just a very niche defence team to be honest

I don't expect it to work that well in general PvP except against my own team that I'm trying to counter

[tropic summit]

what you'd run that is consistent against this? @swift mango @gaunt pulsar

[tropic summit]

just run a comp that has better threat for T3, other 2 are good enough

[quick lake]

Moran Bay Biscuit HelmT SWHA works for me

[tropic summit]

it survives vestiTU + ada? iirc doppel got wiped when he ran that

[quick lake]

its close but it works for me

[tropic summit]

@quick lake #pvp-arena message

[gaunt pulsar]

i usually do cheap stuff against indom 1-2 sac nayu cindy+rosa p5, works every time, that one is faster though and has swha so wouldn't work, need to cook something different

[tropic summit]

yeah i was thinking of saccing too but they'll probably get p5 indommed

[quick lake]

maybe is the sync difference. For me i think it needs to be SWHA. Vesti rockets dont hit fast enough to heal

[spark granite]

I was able to beat them with the current comp, but that was with them being around the same level as me instead of 20 levels ahead of me

[quick lake]

My opponents are somehow winning my ada blanc vesti

[tropic summit]

give it a shot with this imo

nayuta helmt anisTT swha trina

maybe you're fast enough to deny vestiTU and force them to ada instead

[spark granite]

I’m about to head to work so I just did my hits on the second place person. I’ll try it tonight and show the results!

Tyty as always

[versed mesa]

3 of the new peeps shuffled into my group have tried to attack me at C1 so far, one has been successful

[tropic summit]

if they are around your synchro, they should always win

this game favours the one attacking

[umbral belfry]

prolly what I'd do. their nayu should be stunned by siren. anis's re enter shouldn't be an issue here

moran bay bisc blocks their lib

t1 I'd skip but you'd prolly win with a slower indom

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sunnyfication-3--k01KPXW9FVYHG70YMYXHDHGXN36

[umbral belfry]

but t2 and t3 (esp t3) are easier

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/david-tennant-cry-doctor-who-sad-rain-gif-11794483

[keen patio]

I don't have Bay built, unfortunately
And Lappy doesn't want to come home
Plus there's the issue of CP gapping on my end

[umbral belfry]

oof

[tropic summit]

the sooner you get used to it, the better

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-i-know-concept-angry-annoyed-gif-16272172

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mai-sakurajima-11--k01KPXWHR0XJ11DN16DVETA8A0Z

[keen patio]

Thanks for the suggestions though
Random aside, but you and I were in the same qualifiers last CA

Or maybe the one before that

[umbral belfry]

unless still cp gapped you could also try this for t1 and t3 (put whatever strong cp unit for t3 in the space)

[keen patio]

No Midhara for me either

[umbral belfry]

don't remind me about last C I'll get ptsd I thiiiink i remember you from a pool or two ago so hello! gl in ca

oof

[tropic summit]

you let them win hime, you're just kindhearted

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

considering how I haven't lost in pools (yet) I fear that was not the outcome

that name does ring a bell though

[keen patio]

I am proud of my one round win against you

[umbral belfry]

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit After all this time of hoping for an actual shuffle where people actually switch around, now I wish I was still with the same top 5 that I had in previous bracket

[umbral belfry]

the last idea I have for t1 is blanc sw bisc label cindy but I have a feeling cp gapped

[versed mesa]

Atleast I knew what kind of teams they play and when they usually attack, if they gem etc.

[umbral belfry]

with 2rl moran noah vesti helm for t3

[keen patio]

The only team I have the potential to get CP gapped on is the Vesti team
So there may be options

[umbral belfry]

what would your cp be vs theirs on the t1 and t3 teams? if you're getting cp gapped by their vesti then it's not worth fighting that team regardless, just skip t2

[versed mesa]

My only hope so far is that the new peeps seem to be PvE focused, so they probably won't gem for pvp

[charred quail]

i meant the rock rolling.

[umbral belfry]

oh wait you said no midhara

[keen patio]

I am Midhara-less

[umbral belfry]

any chance you have a label

if not then maybe this

anis makes you 2.5 and I'm not 100% sure if they'd be 2rl with feed so it's risky

[keen patio]

I could give it a try
For reference, this is what I use on attack to get a 3 round win against my own team

[jagged mesa]

@umbral belfry @wet crystal the good ole days

[clear folio]

hello Hime how are you best friendship 🥰

[umbral belfry]

that t1 looks a bit dicey but everything else makes sense

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-jazz-band-sesame-street-elmos-world-music-gif-631824817881016995

[umbral belfry]

mods

[keen patio]

It's surprisingly consistent
Since I'm lower sync than my opponent, the timing matches up when Centi dies. His Snow bursts, and then Rosanna and Nayuta snipe her mid-burst

[umbral belfry]

I assume these won't work now outside of t1 bc deficit too high?

[keen patio]

I've never tried this on defence before, but it might be worth a shot

The most annoying part of my SP group is that there's a mega whale who only runs max core PvE nikkes. When fighting him, I'm at 40-50 percent stat deficit

[umbral belfry]

booo whales booo (i am f2p)

that does indeed sound cooked then

[keen patio]

Yep, it forces me to run weird comps to defend against him
Biscuit and Nayuta are my best friends

[umbral belfry]

[craggy pier]

holy crap Anis has TWO gacha skins

[fallow nebula]

Is sanis the new jackal

Or do we call her stannis to differ her from swanis

[craggy pier]

Janis?

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit ill defeat you one day

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-not-this-day-not-today-lord-of-the-rings-gif-14797074

[cedar sorrel]

Sanis is summer variant

[fallow nebula]

Star and swimsuit start with same letter

Same for sparkling and summer

[cedar sorrel]

Aniss

[short plaza]

I'm curious what is anis star good for in PvP

[cedar sorrel]

Shes good yeah

[short plaza]

what she is good at though

maybe I can utilise her to get my spot back in challenger

[cedar sorrel]

Shes a defender that gives u a lot of burst gen + damage and if u combine her with another b1 she gives healing instead

So shes pretty versatile

[short plaza]

interesting

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/too-dangerous-to-be-kept-alive-lightsaber--k01KPXYQJMQM4ET2FK20P3164SK

[obsidian tangle]

generally how slow does a team have to be (in RL) for a 2rl scarlet to wipe it before they can B2 noah?

[versed mesa]

No sniperino attempts from the new blood in my bracket. One used a freebie to test attack me an hour ago, but while he was online just a minute ago he didn't do a timed attack.

[obsidian tangle]

there used to be a site that showed this stuff but I can't find it anymore 😐

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet happens when 2.5RL is on B1 and when 3RL hasn't bursted yet

[tropic summit]

it still exists, https://nikke.top/

[craggy pier]

She's outperforming my ein who has SR15, is Core+2, 104% elemental 22%Atk, gear all +5, (anis has SR6 doll, 52%ele )

[hollow lagoon]

idk how i feel about full auto the entire hard campaign and kill the boss in like 5 tried on a laggy computer

[obsidian tangle]

so in this example scarlet wins 100%?

[versed mesa]

Oooh got a double rock fever hit with the 5x5 thingy! 4 rocks

[tropic summit]

was thinking the same, the amount of autoing with all these op units lately is becoming insane

vestiTU RRH lib SWHA... they all just wipe the floor regardless you actually even touch the keyboard/mouse

[hollow lagoon]

no

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-slayer-stressed-priestess-anime-you-get-used-to-it-gif-13752108

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit this is my auto set

[tropic summit]

that team is trying to sacc, if one of those units dies enemy gains 33%ish burst and goes right into rosanna B1, which will kill scarlet before she reaches indom (blanc B2)

[obsidian tangle]

oh right rosana does that 🫠

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-dress-up-darling-anime-scared--k01KPXZ2BQWKRCRHWEBXN7V7RA8

[slow heart]

can someone pls tell me the new meta pvp teams?

[craggy pier]

I don't see her in Nikke deck, but im putting Anis with Nayuta, Helmt, laplaceT, and trina for now, my Moran needs phaze3 still

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

some are lacking in data so expect new additions once more ppl test them out

[tropic summit]

update the page

[undone blaze]

Finally t9 ely attacker gloves

[craggy pier]

Ohh thanks, refreshed

[hoary magnet]

any reason why jackal got indomitability instead of centi

[tropic summit]

on who's side?

both jackals are without doll and likely uninvested compared to their linked units

indom is based on lowest HP on blanc cast

if your jackal is lowest HP in link, she'll be picked for indom

[placid bloom]

wym why your Jackal got indom, your Centi is dead otherwise you burst Centi instead of Blanc

[hoary magnet]

mine, i thought blanc give indomitability to lowest hp, which is left one

[tropic summit]

your burst order is

centi B2 jackal B1 cindy B3, assuming centi doesn't die

if centi dies, you burst jackal B1 blanc B2 cindy B3

jackal is lowest invested unit in link, jackal will be lowest HP in link on blanc cast, jackal is indommed

[hoary magnet]

ahh

can u recommend the lineup order?

[tropic summit]

you're not indomming that with jackal, she's too low invest

[hoary magnet]

so, change line up?

[tropic summit]

enemy has stun pressure, anti nuke and nuke + DPS

use a lineup that can counter that with what you've, if you've the units

[fast marsh]

I’m at the edge of challenger should I try to go past it? I am low sync but I think you guys can pick me out two solid teams

[tropic summit]

show your teams against one of those challenger teams first

[flat fern]

any tips on countering this?

[tropic summit]

yeh you're in range with all of them, can beat them

[tropic summit]

• jackal blanc swha biscuit helmt
• jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmt

[craggy pier]

does Trina buff her or is that only AR's?

[hoary magnet]

how about this, do you think this is possible with ~45k bp diff?

[tropic summit]

trina buff only elec ARs

[tropic summit]

deficit, you need 189k+CP, multiply enemy CP for 0.846 to find out minimun needed CP

[fast marsh]

Thank you, while I’m here I would also like to ask for feedback on my rookie arena team I’ll show my units

[shell hazel]

fear my luck!

[tropic summit]

qeq alice anchorIM anisTT drake

[flat fern]

no shot, their noah bursts just in time :/

I am uner a deficit too, probably unrealistic

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy CP for 0.846, if your team CP isn't higher than that value don't even bother running

[versed mesa]

Get SSR from molds and it gives you the final dupe to +7 core a unit! The unit...

[fast marsh]

Shouldn’t I sub out one of the B3’s for biscuit so Anis doesn’t die?

[tropic summit]

you're synchro 160, you need to consider speed x CP x threat

you could slot moran but you'll lose CP, same goes for biscuit

[tropic summit]

also watch positioning carefully, anisTT is in p4, that position isn't targeted until you lose p1 p2 p3

[versed mesa]

I want SWHA or VestiTU dupes dangit

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/winterz-soon--k01KPY0DAE4PPFTJNWN5YNDJR7D

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

[fast marsh]

Ohhh okay

[gritty ridge]

I can fit anyone i want here, who are yall thinking for b3?

[tropic summit]

where's your laplaceT at

[gritty ridge]

I have so many good units now, some are gonna miss out

[tropic summit]

i don't really like that blanc p3

[versed mesa]

I want to make some kind of Nayuta and Anis team. Then just see opponent get slammed with stars and cosmic hands falling from the sky

[tropic summit]

nayuta privT helmT anis laplaceT/emilia

[flat fern]

man anis just does so damage

[versed mesa]

I will actually try this when I actually get Anis built enough

Can I say actually anymore times in a sentence actually?

[gritty ridge]

[flat fern]

got it, used a weirder comp for it tho

[arctic jewel]

ooh! I wanna try this team for fun

[versed mesa]

Anis keeps shooting stars even after the stage opponent dies

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1--k01KPY0WZQP3YZHA156EAJ8Z95F

[shell hazel]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGQvB_Aa4AAbY7j.webp

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit is this for Rookie?

[brazen ledge]

hi guys, i made these pvp teams what do y'all think of them

[umbral belfry]

why sw p4 surely rumani isn't last link

regardless looks fine

[brazen ledge]

bc vesti is better no ?

[umbral belfry]

your links ideally want to be in p1 p2 p5

you have sw (who likely is your other link) in p4 with rumani in p5

according to your picture

[brazen ledge]

i can swap sw and rumani if that makes the team better

[umbral belfry]

in a random scenario where you're fighting defending sgs vs an unprotected p5 rumani you might be cooked

unlikely to happen but it'd be nice to make a habit of putting your links up in ideal positions for more link burst gen

[brazen ledge]

if i face my current def teams i really don't know how i'd counter that without 15.5%+ deficit

[late tiger]

i need some advice - enemy uses
Noise, Noah, Vesti, Biscuit Snow White

[tropic summit]

run

noah biscuit helmt swha noise

[late tiger]

thanks, i try now

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit helmt swha moran also works in case you're more invested on moran

[late tiger]

moran happens to be more invested, but got 5 tries

[late tiger]

that team worked

thanks

[tropic summit]

for either mode

[versed mesa]

Alright my mock battle test for MC Anomaly wasn't a fluke. Now come on Tetra Def gloves

[late tiger]

i also jumped from lvl 680 to 735, so that helped too

[late tiger]

isn't this pvp chn?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/most-of-the-time-usually-often-shrug-confused-gif-14716719

[late tiger]

i found some weird bug just now, or maybe new gimmick for arena

either this is a bug or SU now intentionally hides enemies, if you fight them 3 times

it's replicable btw

[versed mesa]

My main opponent in Rookie just started using his attacks, so I'll let you know in a minute

[wind kelp]

Welp, made some teams for probably my last league for a while(harsh spa i'm in).
"Good teams?"
Me:

[versed mesa]

Only 3 attacks. And he does the same strat as me, of hitting the player with highest points that he can beat, which is still me, so maybe there actually is a limit of 3 on the same opponent in a row?

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit can this work? 🤔

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[late tiger]

she should act as healer and receive buff from nero, but is it fast enough?!
prob need +3 minimum for uncap
should be a 2.3ish burst

[arctic jewel]

I just cooked up something, the team that @quick lake uploaded is probably better

[tidal lichen]

biscuit version looks better for sp def

[arctic jewel]

Aayyy, I made something xD

[tidal lichen]

off burst nero with nayuta b2 doesnt sound too bad either

[arctic jewel]

That sounds really good too

[shell hazel]

kricoun, thou art the chosen one

destroyer of @hollow lagoon

verily thy will be done

[tidal lichen]

impossible..

[hollow lagoon]

come

[late tiger]

i need a 3rd def team for sp
using:

• Noise, Rumani, Noah, VestT, LaplaceT
• MoranT, BaiT, Biscuit, Trina
  This is what i am conflicted about
• Scarlet, Jackal, Blanc, HelmT, W. Maiden

[shell hazel]

neigh! it's necessary

[tidal lichen]

my sp rn is beyond cursed

1 semi whale 1 whale 1 guy with 2 accs

disgusting

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dk-nintendo-donkey-kong-gif-23203423

[hollow lagoon]

@tidal lichen want me to make my teams meh?

[shell hazel]

two accounts? what the

[tidal lichen]

nah i'd be attacked at 1 anyways

ty tho

[shell hazel]

zant you know what to do!

release the kraken!

[tidal lichen]

why is anis so good btw.

on bossing too

she slaughters behe

[versed mesa]

Because she has a big, juicy... weapon

[hollow lagoon]

annhilated the new boss

did as much damage with 1 ele anis as my 3ele cinderella

[hoary magnet]

hello, can someone recommend line up for SP arena for me? just got moran and idk where to put her

[tidal lichen]

shes actually destroying behes turrets

[arctic jewel]

that does not look like a fun time

[versed mesa]

I replaced MoranT with Anis, and my Anis doesn't even have doll or overloads, practically autoed MC to death.

[tidal lichen]

moran couldnt even survive 3 months 😭

[versed mesa]

I could give Anis just a SR doll straight up, but then it would be more expensive to upgrade

[flint elk]

what cubes should i use for this team

Moran-Noah-Lib-Thelm-Red Hood

[tidal lichen]

on mother whale museum

[flint elk]

arena cubes ofc

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit
New Nikkes this month

Ein
Nero
Star Anis

Then I got a Grave copy.

It could've been any Pilgrim...

[gaunt viper]

it seemed like wasting Noah but I wasnt sure with nayuta so it was kinda like a safety thing i suppose.
I agree the scar mirror is super RNG, what just happened with it was Incredible RNG really.
T3 is a real pain

[humble tiger]

I'm sitting in CH9 right now. It's fine here actually. Everyone above are sweats with invested PvP teams.

[unique wagon]

Wrongly coded I think

her burst gen is correct
her team's burst gen is incorrect

[glad meteor]

Oh ye @tropic summit

1rl dream closer than ever

[jovial pumice]

Is new Anis good for PvP?

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

<@&1450788368702111765>

Trying to find mod. And its all modernias

[shell hazel]

@Modernia

[rich quail]

Do I want this for Anis?

Or is cs not really as important as atk/ele/ammo?

[shell hazel]

I'm curious how fast this is

[glad meteor]

Vesti slowing team down

[shell hazel]

what else to run?

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Well. We also want to win

[shell hazel]

we may want to win

[glad meteor]

so its fine

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

Try lapT

[shell hazel]

now you tell me! 😮

[glad meteor]

Shud be giga fast

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

no I have the accords with topyro, I beat him and I give him a win

[glad meteor]

U met him on dc?

[shell hazel]

no he just never attacks me in spa and we been together since the start lol

so I don't attack him in rookie unless I also give him a win

the accords

sadly he's the only one really close to me sync wise to test anything on 😄

[glad meteor]

U made up your own accords with him

[shell hazel]

this probably collapse too

[shell hazel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/survive--k01KPY5Z2TS0XEX5AV1S98HJ39C