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Nah, my moran is used on other teams already, so my option narrowed to rosanna
For attack Ur 2 best teams
- nayuta helmt rh swha bsoda
- jackal vestitu xmaiden blanc liberalio
For defense
- nayuta Cindy helmt rh drake
- jackal vestitu xmaiden blanc liberalio
- moran siren anchorim swha bsoda
Most use 15 Resilience. The front defenders generally have 11 Tempering
Jackal blanc swha biscuit siren, siren assumed linked and with higher HP test in shooting range as needed
Ok thanks what should the 3rd team be for attack
Am willing to invest
are you down to cook for me again I think i have upgrades from the last time
Leave ur info here not at the PC anymore i can reply to you later 👍
thanks goat
So the expectation is that SWHA takes 1/3 damage because 1 is out of reach and the other is invuln
Okay
Pretty much need invuln to deal with VestiT?
You dont need 3 teams for atk, you always target 2 with their weakness, if you dont know what to do just run the def teams, they are balanced out
In this matchup ur priority is stunning blanc and staying alive up to B2
Biscuit works best by making P1 and P2 inviln.
And your link is safe
Get all SSS units on prydwen pvp tier list built up for starters, then move down to the SS ones
Is there a rock paper scissors for the 2 teams? For the third team do i just make smth with the SSS units
yes each team have their specific weakness, slow teams die to fast nuke, glass cannons die to indom or stalls, indoms lose to sustain or stall variants, stall variants lose to slow cindy or indom... etc
these are the units you should max out asap
when attacking follow these steps:
here's an overall of the most common archetypes you'll deal with in terms of rock/paper/scissor
so ive been using these at the moment and didnt know if i have some better options with the other units i have now or some treasures like privT and i sadly havent been able to invest more into rumani and a few others
ye i can see some upgrades here, we were running still some padding and slower speed
yah i thought so 
SP arena
- nayuta helmt centi rh laplaceT
- jackal privT vestiTU blanc swha
- moran siren lib drakeT noah
Notes
- build up pvp core units vestiTU, moran(treasure asap), jackal, noah, blanc, biscuit
- build up burst gen units rumani, centi, trina
yeah sadly just dont have lb2 moran </3 thanks goat
also dont think i can use vestiTU until she is invested is there anyone else i can put?
cuz my vestiTU is current worthless no overload and no rocks to spare
no she's fine, she's used as battery and offburst there
you can specifically use her like that for now
okie
rail chan
and moran is fine even without treasure?

ye she still does her job, just less efficiently
do you think i have something that can beat this
ye you do, check CP with
noah moran biscuit helmt lib
gonna need 561k+ CP
only have 520k
ok, we can pad a scarlet nuke, how's your scarlet? 10/x/10 or 7/x/7?
oh nvm
we got privT ready, might aswell
scar is 10/10/10
show CP with
nayuta privT helmT SWHA jackal
628k
alrighty run that
we abused a speedy buffed nuke here
you're 2RL bursting with a privT on nayuta buff, it's actually 2 nukes in 1 (nayuta + privT), will be lethal on most things as long as you're faster
yippeeee
rail we dont have kits yet but do u think anis will be busted for pvp
whats your inkling
i like that you know this stuff even with all of this in front of me i kinda dont understand but youve helped me beat my nemesis everytime
T.T.Anis is the future
likely busted, for both pve and pvp, but let's see the eventual numbers

rail is goated like that
when i have 200 silver i will buy moran for that treasure :3
i have ramyun
she'll be your savior for pve and pvp combined
might take a while
i just wish i had her super cute dinosaur skin
what you calling me a pssy for, its not like youd know since you dont get any



unlike you im not ashamed to show my face, flaunt it if you got it
zeida did you see the libby skin
thats why youre a vtuber
24 and still e-dating, just goes to show- its almost poetic
aint nobody smiling at you
LEAVE PVP CHAT BRUH U HATER
somebodies gonna think we arent friends and report us 
THATS WHY I SAID GO
LMFAOAOAO
omg bnuuy why are you even on the bus
random meme I just like it cause we have real bunny at home
the bunny became real fat quickly it even lives at the neighbors house now
and sometimes visits us morning to ask for food lol
i wish i had a bunny but
apparently theyre kinda stinky and theyre high maintenance- idk if im responsible enough for a high maintenance animal
thats why i have a cat 
we got like huge garden in the back
so the bunny just feeds itself
and lives there
my coworker has a bunny
it runs from people it doesn't know it let's people it knows to hug it so cute XD
IT'S pretty popular tho some neighbor's tried to steal it
and our dog wanna eat it I mean left ear already half good thing we heard it cry before being eaten
life's hard as a herbivore prey
damn
Bunnies?
yeap
Yes
Did you win by cs and Helm taking out linked units with Jackal?
CS?
what's that
privaty bursted
that's called a misindom
delinked them, attacking helmt + ele adv got drake to indom, simple
doing aight I suppose, got both 3.5 and nte to look forward to next week
I have 3.5 and BA idol banners to look forward 
Trying to challenge electric meta with water
It failed so horribly 
You need that hussy Label
It seems like just wrong position 

Label p1 huh
well yes ser if label stunned (delusion shattered) that means no elec dmg reduction for team right 
of course
the king.... is no longer with us
so p1 label is a taboo
yuo experienced first hand
tuck her away in a spot she's not likely to get hit

Shields gud
For opp

How about we stacking the shield with p2 centi?
Can the shield even be stacked

centi treasure?
Yeah
the way to know is..
I plan to p2 tomorrow or after update
give a try
even though she will increase enemy burst gen you are going to increase her treasure?
Still can't
You try
my centi is treasue less
Btw thanks for the new defenses Rail @tropic summit they’ve been very successful so far I even got a defense win vs the CH9 guy who keeps knocking me down from CH7 2 hours ago
If you do you can’t use her in PvP anymore bc she will give your enemies omega burst gen for free
Why won't you treasure her
to avoid the brick
You can Treasure P1 her and not brick
Just treasure her phase 1

As long as you put her in 2 rl it won't matter
In fact, when they counter your 2rl centi team with slow/stall, they sped up

That’s what every coper says
@swift mango is it cope or true?
Cope
So many centi doubters 
How about your centi
my centi p3 10/10/7
... i guess this is going to be a dumb question but how do i know what characters to use for a team, i under stand the whole building up burst, but i feel like my teams could be better, and i wish there was a way i could tell what to run/build with out asking in here for help to build the teams
I'll follow you soon
Champion 3 times's cope is the truth
Time for the classic Rail copy and paste
whats a good indom team with vestiTU and ada? i keep seeing it was wondering what makes a vestiTU/ada team so good
VestiTU aka Besti is amazing bc if she has good investment she can kill most things quickly and annihilates wind units especially those in P1-P3 as for what Ada does this is bc of her Passive Skill 1 Covert Support which basically does the following after VestiTU bursts Besti gets a 60% atk up based on Ada’s attack plus a 50% True damage buff and gets her to recover 10% of the damage taken as HP
TLDR to the TLDR: She buffs up VestiTU by a lot that’s why she’s a good teammate for her
I thought Takina would be useful with her 120% + true damage for all allys and her stun but im guessing she has bad burst gen?
If she makes it to 15seconds to stun 
can anyone help me create a def team for sp arena, need help to keep the 4th position
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMTgxNjYyMjEwMzE3NjU0ODQyOTM=
Try refer to the pins or wait for someone else
My personal pick is Nayuta RH 2RL and SWHA Blanc 2RL, the rest either Moran Noah 2RL or other archtype
@quick lake Are you sure Nayuta RH 2RL doesn't belong to the pin 
Sure I can add. Always felt that it isnt that consistent 
Really crit fishing
Defend on the case. In SpA def it's net negative if people know what to do. But phase 2 Centi isn't visible so they can't really account for it unless attacked once.
In CA, in the right team it could be net zero to positive.
In Attacker, if you gen chart it enough, you could use it like Cindy against the right team but most people don't have the experience or time for that.
Indom on drake thanks to Rosa and Helm.
Congrats. Now win champ for me. 
LD needs everyone help he is asking around all the time. 

Nayuta doesn't mean to kill everyone.
Zxcvbnm
Don't mind me I'm making some placeholder
Theme and such
That's it
Done
can anyone help me build new team for spa arena? (both atk and def pls)

Slow af team
Yeah, your team is unfortunately too slow
Ey man. They cooked, not me. Rail approved it even
Thats insane
Ok guys, take it easy

With my limited knowledge of pvp that team just looks random but idk what the conditions were and what the plan is
I know slow cindy is a thing but this just looks like cindy thats slow
@humble tiger ok, sorry, I still haven't properly woke up, now I see what's going on, it's a slow Cindy team
Do you know what the purpose of a slow Cindy team is?
You outwait the noah invulrn and then u kill em
Yes, but you try to stall basically everything that your opponent does, that includes defensive buffs and such
Anyway
@humble tiger if your Rapi RH has the highest Atk, then this team might work as intended
Slow and passionate (in bed)
Yea and from what I know irs usually ran in like moran biscuit cindy formations cuz they have a lot of survivability

Cindy is a defender so gets the biscuit benefits + is still a really strong b3 wipe
I mean usually isnt always 
For non Nayuta versions Cindy usually don’t get a slot for the biscuit buff, she lives cuz she tanky
I see yeah I think shes usually p4
She does.
But for Nayuta versions yeah she gets biscuit
SWHA wipes everyone.
I wanted to go for 3 win. Why was moran so hard to kill t3?
Also moranT bay biscuit has been going brazy
Oh? You already tried the team? Next time when you go up against your opponent, record the match
Too lazy. Kek. If I lose, I lose. My team didn't get to burst, barely any damage .
I mean the point is that u burst late no
The gameplan of your team is to survive everything that your opponent throws at you, then when enough time has passed, you burst when they're weaker
Except your Rapi RH, because she needs to take the Helm Burst
That's the reason why Rapi RH is there, to get sacrificed
What kind of Cubes are you using for your Nikkes?
How good is Soda in SA?
I'm looking for a new defense team that my rival hasn't seen before to make him trip up before the reset
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTIwMjIxODg2MTc4MjAyNzkwMDE%3D
once u introduce Soda there is no going back 
I have a bunch of my old ones
SWHA indom is a bad choice against moran noah biscuit because you'll pop biscuit stack during FB, which is what you don't want
you need to pop both biscuit stacks BEFORE they B2, or you'll be stalled
That's let you see how bad I am at team forming
that said you could run vestiTU + ada indom or SWHA + vestiTU to help getting both stacks off
Ah so I ended up going for the worst of both world with swha ada lol
soda in p3-p4-p5 is RNG
soda in p2 is meant to counter noah
in both cases she's mitigable, so i wouldn't recommend
yeah if you can't pop those biscuits stacks early you'll unfortunately just hit a wall
These are the biscuit stacks right?
ye, they're the core of biscuit kit
just making defender units invulnerable, ideally trying to land it twice on the same unit to maximize its length
So then u want to get the moran down to 50% twice in a row and then full burst?
you want to pop biscuit stack on 2 defenders before entering indom
in this case, hit p1 and p2 to 50% to force them out
Ah ofc noah is a def too
a unit very good with this is vestiTU, or other hard hitters pre burst (emilia, laplaceT or SGs)
Does vesti need particular investment for that? Mine only has atk and cs
thanks for sharing, FYI @swift mango
TL;DR, SWHA wiped everyone.
Here's what I've saved, I'm sure I've done more
SP arena
- noise siren privT SWHA noah
- moran anchorIM trina helmt vestiTU
- jackal nayuta cindy biscuit lib
Notes
- build up trina, centi, rumani
- finish doll on blanc
- get lappy treasured on mid term
Attack teams are based on what you facing, if you don't know what you doing just run the same teams on attack
there's all kind of decent archetypes mixed in, if your opponent is clearing all of those, he's probably half decent himself
you haven't used sacc teams and slow cindy teams, perhaps could throw them for a loop with those
rosanna is built ye?
get 120-150% ammo
atk looks good
CS% is okish
could def. use ele atk% to punish wind codes
It's not about crit tho, it's more about ATK lines imo
Even against not so invested, 0 ATK can wipe
So down the line should I lock cs and ammo to go for ele on the helm?
Same with CS on the chest and go for atk + ele?
And I guess give up on glove and boot cuz that seems like a lot of rocks to fix 
up to you the method, but the ideal set is
x2-x3 ele
x2-x3 atk
x2-x3 ammo
x2 CS%
I can't afford the rocks
hmm too bad that would've added some variations
His Rosanna is built though
Ah thats nice that sounds like she'll still be good in pve as well
I was going to try this sac team, but my Vesti is way better than SWHA
for T3 if it's either scarlet or vestiTU linked both work, better if it's scarlet unlinked
if lappy is linked keep her p5, if lappy isn't linked but her p3
if it's scarlet linked you don't need vigor
if it's vestiTU + lappy linked, run vigor on lappy
Scarlet is unlinked for sure
ye perfect
ah blanc in T3 is trina btw
Then health doesn't matter?
it does, we want to keep link healthy so they can't punish with glass cannon but forced to use biscuit or indom
T3 is trying to fish a biscuit
for T1 you could swap around helmT and SWHA just to get sustain going
probably offers better threat
give it a shot and see how it goes, not unbeatable but they push some of their cards
Whats the point of blanc p1 + biscuit? Ive seen it before but not sure
blanc p1 is generally a bad choice in standard 2RL or indom teams
a different story if used on slow teams, because they stall on p1 most damage sources minus AoEs and DoTs
So blanc isnt used for the indom then but just to stall?
depends, you want the indom if possible, although 4RL or 5RL will generally have the attacker unit dead, so you'll want a rapunzel
Thanks, I'll try it
Rival pretended he couldn't beat my current team overnight
he doesn't want you to change teams pre reset i guess
So ur p2 is usually your attacker that u then want to take dmg through RL chip?
Yeah, I just figured out this season if you start ahead you have a 24h advantage if you're just trading spots
But you still need to force a fail if you want to stay ahead in the season after
yeah if you've rapunzel you can afford p2 to just die
else account for dmg for your unit to be lowest HP in the team
And this is then usually ran vs noah comps to wait out the invulrn?
slow teams are weak to glass cannon/nukers and generally strong against DPS and/or stalls
situationally slow teams are also strong against indom, as long as your indom is slower
And why would u run that as your def? Cant they then easily run glass/nuke since those are pretty straight forward comps?
yeah you catch up fast, that's the thing, you just hope opponent is a 🐒 and runs the wrong cards
Ah okay thats fair lmao
But blanc p1 +bisc mostly an atk comp then if Im understanding
yeah most comps will work best on attack and less effectively on def
the few rare ones that work somewat ok on both sides are very rare, e.g. jackal vestiTU ada indom and moran noah biscuit archetypes
Okay good to know appreciate the help 💪 
speaking of, I want to see something spicy in the costume voting ^^
Well, did you able to burst or not? If you can't burst with this team then it's just your investment problems
Couldn't burst. Ye. Understandable.
oh didn't reach burst, sadge 
Nayuta is probably linked and Jackal got killed from linked dmg without trigger biscuit. OL stat is important at your synch level.
But record the fight instead next time you tell a result.
I keep forgetting. 
(in bed)
Swap Cindy and Nayuta position next time. And put something on Biscuit as well, some equipment at least.
Cindy+Nayuta+RRH+Biscuit+Jackal
SR would hit Cindy without skipping so more chance for Jackal to survive.
We need to reach bursting first.
@hollow lagoon should've been the winner... 
but we never get good things in this game 
We do, We get Railtracer Sensei
Wait, Did you burst 1+2 and Cindy died, or couldn't even b1?
Former case is biscuit problem, later is Jackal problem
I cope with fake rail
Even tho fake rail might be stronger than real rail


606 sync
I wonder what would happen if go to snake and ask to trade fake rail for real rail
I saw this exact msg before.
I defend Railsensei
Will snake cave to the 606 sync

The fight ended quite fast for me. No one probably bursted cuz very low damage.
I really wish I recorded, or even screenshotted the end results.
If Cindy wasn't there, I would have voted for Siren 100%, heart of gold
next time! (but I think Anis will probably win next time)
In before new years pilgrim clears her


Swha only got top 5 and meta relevent. This years doki doki had no competition tbh. Just cindy then everyone else 
it's gonna take a while for non Pilgrim/Over-Spec Nikkes to win, although Arcana in top 4 was nice too see (but it's probably because of recent relevancy)
but I do like her

In my case, my jackal has too much HP she got killed by HelmT nuke before she reached 50% HP from linked dmg.
Well, you could just pull and build Anis so you have a b1 defender units I guess.
Even if you could burst it got fed to 3rl so team won't work I guess.
So yeah, no need to try the team anymore. Jackal won't work and would just be fed to 3rl. Comeback when you have new Anis built.
HelmT attacks highest atk so if you jackal it will hit the link for sure
your playing on what deficit bro
they will give out 3 skill resets
Zero deficit
@humble tiger it may not end very well even if you could burst slow and kill. Ofc their Moran isn't max doll like mine so you should win if you can burst slow like this.
you tried Rumani Cindy Nayuta biscuit label?
or can change label to something else similar speed
I usually win vs that match up with that comp
unless the deficit is too high
Slow Cindy can win, easily, you just need to have the right team that @humble tiger doesn't have.
I don't need to test to win AtK in SpA. 
but testing is fun
I use spa to test team. 
yea im happy im third
if I get 2700 gems im attacking my 2nd
if he attacks back more fun for me 🙂
I'm 2nd but I have 3 different guys to hit defending when I log in. 
Is this reset the reorganization?
did you push hard campaign super early?
like going 30% 35% 40% deficit
like real mald, it kinda decided my level gap and position for SPA
Nah, I just gem claim.
30% deficit is only possible for me with new units recently. 
I kept around 30-35% deficit. And then for the last ... 8 chapters (?) the only thing that matters is the boss
And it's hard to push deficit on bosses
No no brother it's FUN
My ganglion cyst became bigger cause of it
eee can i do this everytime or was i lucky as hell xD ?

Slower Indom it's 100% win rate. Unless Blanc or Vesti got killed by a Crit and can't burst
ok then i pray crit will not come, but damn he hit my p1p2 so much harder than i did him 😮 i am close to deficit but still woah
@humble tiger edited
Soon.
@tropic summit what do we think about p3 Noah?
ur tvesti might die
It's like p2 but p3 instead


Yeah, you won if you had someone to eat the HelmT nuke instead of Nayuta. This team only lost because Midhara died early and I upgraded Nayuta ATK comparing to before so helmT hit her instead of Biscuit or Cindy.
This guy knows something that we mere mortals don't
Not my team obviously
Rail needs your box to cook
Bc he doesn’t know what you have so it’s hard to cook a team blind with 0 info on what units you actually have
Is there a reason to put quantum on T3 when it hits 2RL on its own?
I'm lazying around in PvP till new chapter and open all cd boxes
Waking up to find the guy who likes to hit you while you sleep bricked twice and spent gems to still lose is like coffee 
ye i forgot
@tropic summit sp def 
i filtered it so u dont need to find them
i have every nikke so lmk if there's others to be added tnx
also tvesti has 21% cs and 20 ammo
thelm 11.60% cs
is this a solid counter? what are the caveats?
It work fine. Noah keep your team survive SW hit until SW died.
thanks ill take note.
i see that comp so often i even used it as rookie arena def
Could try my def. @unique mountain
It's nothing hard to beat just if you haven't try something similar before could try it.
Anything that makes her lower HP than Rosa. Quantum if want more gen. Bastion if needed more attack above 10 ammo.
ok tnx

I'm looking for quantity over quality anyways 
anyone know how to beat these teams 
use team 3 to beat team 1, then use ada indom vesti to beat team 3,
use siren to stun t2 for derp, or rosa it
can someone help me cook an attack agaisn't this in SParena? I own every relevant nikked except Label and TLaplace:
I can’t get past this guys defense any tips on what teams I can use
1st team a slower blanc biscuit cinderella team maybe, 3rd team 2 rl noah comp with 3 b3 so rosanna cant kill them all or hit team 2 with moran noah helm snow white siren maybe
what about moran + bay for the third team? would it 100% survive scarlet?
@fading birch
If you burst at same time im not sure if rosanna will take out your dps or shoot moran
opponent teams are so scuffed
3 dps is how i used to face rosanna scarlet before label
any 3 decent team should work
Noise Noah Cindy
Jackal Vesti Indom
Moran Bay Helm SWHA
replying to me or KB?
to KB 
may I ask why siren on the team 2? won't she just stun moran after moran burst?
Thought so too but I keep losing, is it a CP deficit?
T1: Moran Bay Biscuit Helm SWHA
T2: Noah Siren Centi Lib Trina
T3: Jackal Rumani VestiTU Blanc Ada/LapT
no deficit, the teams I gave should work
Noah provokes on charge attack, its how ive been hitting the moran noah vesti teams, with lifesteal helm and snow. You prob dont need siren, i just used her for power level and possibility of stun. Also the anti scarlet team, i forgot about nayuta. Just make a 2 rl nayuta team with red hood b1 and another b1 like jackal or rumani in case red hood dies. Nayuta should clap them all in 1 hit if red hood does b1
Mistyped
yeah i saw you corrected nvm 😄
Scarlet
My brain is mush
Nayuta red hood is how i used to counter scarlet soda griefing
Thanks it worked
All 3 teams won?
Still C1 on the final day 
you thinks this could clear all 3 teams?
Nayuta should be 2 rl or you might not burst. Are you wanting emilia to burst on team 1?
You could just aim to beat team 2 and 3, put biscuit in sirens place
team 3 is 2rl I think because of jackal
It looks like it would be 2 rl, the calc had 3 selected
yeah this site doesn't consider the jackal ability I think
oh
But Ive been told 3% feed is basically expected
Its definitely 2rl yes
T2 didn’t work
it's not showing, it doesn't think nayuta would be linked?
Put jackal p1?
Then red hood wont burst for attack buff, no reason to have her there then
Yea I meant to show the stats in the website
Replace her with rumani i guess
yap
There u go
if nayuta is linked it's the same then
Yeah I think so
Nayuta in the back wont burst
as for P1 emilia can't be there unless she dies before b3 I guess
Its to see the stats I just said that
yeah I mean Energy regen is the same
oh right, my nayuta has no atk% rolls tho you think it will be enough still? ^^
@fading birch
TYSM
If red hood steroids her with b1 she should 1 shot them in my experience
The reason I put Emi in p1 is so that she could burst vs Siren. 
You think I would build a team that automatically lose to Siren in SpA?
idk but what of rosa poke
It's mainly to win against deficited opponents. Rosa poke is lethal when deficited and if they tried Noah to taunt Rosa Emi would kill.
i wanna win too
Ah, you mean enemy Rosa to kill it, yeah, you could, easily. 

I wonder if need to save Interception attempts before the anniversary maintenance, or will the maintenance complete on reset like with the last major update 
Did it work out?
I cannot try now because the person is currently below me in rank lol, I have to wait for him to attack
Ohhh gotcha
No ATK nayuta is good for slow cindy team
Nayuta cindy biscuit jackal or rumani is a comp i have used before
But not against 2 rl scarlet cuz you will lose biscuit
It's better with Moran since there's no Blanc to stall.
Yeah ive done it with moran too
Rumani+Cindy+Nayuta against 2rl scarlet Trina is an easy win. Rumani and Cindy p1-2 would be Biscuit and Nayuta would live the nuke too.
Label is easily slot into slow Cindy for same result.

@glad meteor ill defeat u one day
@hollow lagoon go beat him instead
ill defeat u one day
actually
2.4m comps~
i'm in range already

Not the 2.4m but the 2.7m. And beat them in CP instead then. 
After you are done beating them I would send you next goal. 
Soon™
@hollow lagoon his ultimate goal is to defeat Keripo one day. 
welp @swift mango told me to do it
cant na server
Ba7tial is of similar level. And you only need to beat Keripo in CP. 
ill do it
lend me ur wallet @swift mango

on a 2RL team it's generally irrelevant, nowdays opponents will always have access to AoE anyway
only on 2.5RL or slower teams it could matter, cuz you actively feed extra burst gen to taunted units in p1 and p2, if they happen to be jackal or similar clipRL tier burst gen units with splash, then it's abusable
jackal always regardless wants quantum, it punishes enemy if they run high feed teams to make you burst before they do, this can be sometimes the difference if especially running glass cannons that want to outspeed
sup rail, lunch break?
there's a lot of possibilities with this box, you've pretty much anything to build all kind of variants, start with these 2 imo, rotate to the 2nd if it breaks
T1 is pretty wild take... there's lot of variables:
- can you pop biscuit stacks on both defenders pre burst?
- can you survive vestiTU, especially blanc?
if the answer is yes for both, then you're fine
T2 gambling on speed here or assuming you kill at least p2 with scar, vestiTU and laplace, should work
T3 hard counter, very likely to win
beach you gonna be in keripo range in a few months 
t2 usually wins, really the only difference on the comp is drake with SWHA
idk how quick vesti will die
Hmmm... interesting
also pretty sure i have run t1 into that exact team and won but cant fully remember
the only concern on t1 is blanc surviving
SR15 with some cores and tempering might live
yeah thats what she's got
it's 3 low hitters + vestiTU
temp 15 also
Can someone help me find a way to beat this sp arena team comp?
Pretty sure this guy spent more than he would've earned from the 3rd spot 
@tropic summit ill defeat u one day 
did he at least win in the end once?
run these, you're on the left
@tropic summit dont worry @shell hazel will defeat me after i defeat u
He crossed the finish line, he earned it
but who will defeat me then?
@arctic jewel
@cunning crown or @nimble swan I reckon
well after 20 combinations one has to work eventually 
Warheart is not in our union so he can't defeat me
@shell hazel gonna reclaim the surface alone i heard
u and me can just retire and sit on a rocking chair and watch sunset

oh maint is tomorrow 
finally can play this game again after months 
Played around with it in nikke.top. looks like shotguns are the only type that move the needle
I'm hesitant because my quantum is only 7
quantum 7 is the highest tier anyway for that extra burst gen, you're fine
I meant more for CP
I have used that strat before, I call it being so insane no one wants to deal with you
Compared to my 11 Tempering / 15 others

you won the mental warfare 
throw quantum on jackal, rest you can run w/e, just ensure HP priority on the indom target
I just want to sit in my spot till I grow old and die of old age
although it only works if you can actually win 

We going without indom XD
ah the trina team right, that's glass cannon so ye HP won't matter
stack CP for all it matters
This worked ty. Can you also help me build a defense team?
End of season and before shuffle. I can smell C3 and C2 getting ready for sniping me 
blabla link set to public or box and i can take a look
It's alright though, they let me keep C1 for the entire season almost 
SP arena
- noise siren cindy swha noah
- nayuta helmt emi rh laplaceT
- jackal scarlet lib blanc drakeT
Notes
- finish moranT
- build up/wishlist rumani, trina, vestiTU
Once the above are ready, especially vestiTU, can upgrade one of the teams
Ok thanks. what will the upgraded teams look like once I finish moranT and vestiTU?
there would be multiple patterns, once you've them upgraded we'll see where they fit best
vesti can run in most archetypes and moran can run in most stall teams
Alright ty
Regarding the second Absolute team without Emilia, am I missing something? How comes is it so fast?
not real speed, looks like it counts rosanna S2 proc from kills

22 minutes 
your opponent:
They haven't been online yet, but there is still time 
real sniperoni logs in 5 minutes before reset and strikes at X:59
and considering it's end of season they can actually snipe at x:59:50
if they wanna snipe you without being sniped back, today is their best chance
My main rival hasn't attacked me in a week, but I guarantee it is mind games to make me not check. (Or he actually doesn't care and I'm just giving myself anxiety while he is peacefully sleeping
)
Wouldn't that be too late? I tried to attack real close to the end once and since the load didn't finish I got the message that season is over.

worked for me all the time actually
and my hit went way past the reset cloak
Weird
think as long as you submit 10s earlier or so it will go in
(assuming on end of season)
Well I am not too hung up on even if I get sniped, but will still try to counter if at all possible. End of season anyway so hitting the attack loses nothing whether it goes through in time or not
Hey Railtracer, any advice on these?
to attack them or you mean as your own teams?
Just to improve them, my attack teams, also my def is the same
p1 blanc xd
Zant already defeated you and made you his subordinate. 
No Moran?
12 minutes 
make it 40 seconds at least. the loading time could be long
there's a few main issues on these
T1 is ok
T2 is siren sensible, since noah is p1
T3 blanc p1 is siren sensible, but in your case it's even worse cuz she's unprotected
fix those core issues on those 2 teams and you've a decent lineup
T2: run the noise noah or moran noah variant, which will deny or mitigate the issue (noise taunt priority doesn't allow for siren to be taunted by noah)
T3: simply run indom with p1 jackal, e.g. jackal swha blanc centi siren
end of season doesn't matter, it will still go in

it only matters if you're sniping from 1 day to another of same season
end of the season, you can just take back the rank you want the next one
Okay thank you!
just pray the SU give you a good bracket...
i wouldn't know, cuz i clearly never snipe, i'm a good guy 

Shuffle though, I kind of assume I will still have the same top 10 though since everyone there is active. Unless SU actually mixes up brackets for once, unlike last 2 shuffles.
I maxed out Takina thinking she stunned sooner than 15s
🙁
if people quit, probably some sub-server merges
for t moran do i equip lvl 11 resilience or lvl 4 tempering?
the rank also affect your next rank... but as i said, you can jus take the rank back later
lv7 tempering
or vigor...
tempering unless you're gapped when attacking
I need to get my tempering up, the cp loss from lvl15 cube to lvl7 tempering is a bit much with the synchro difference between me and the highest player.
if you play CA, the HP increase is a lot
Less than 4 minutes, either my opponents are cutting it real close, or they actually don't care and I'm malding for nothing 
Only one of them has been online within the hour so might be idling so the online notification isn't updating
scripted attack, will run now
time to attack with makima/moran/biscuit in T3

i'd just rail your sister
ugh... we'll see what happens to my server...
let's hope Clay gets a treasure item soon
well i made top 13 lol

speaking of costumes... Sora
let's hope she also gets a treasure item in the future

awkward moment when the skin is worse than the base 
oh?
I mean... there's definitely worse
clay treasure that buffs bay surely 
ssrapi from last year poll?
😭
Gonna have to agree. I want them cheeks, though seeing the shape is not half bad... 
today is that wonderful day every 2 weeks when I dont have to check SP arena for 24 hours
i wish Rapi's free skin was the RH clothes
Red Hood had a banger skin, including the biker one
That booty shorts skin was nice, but I am never going to buy any of the gacha skins. Unless I win the lottery and have more money than god 
Exia and Bay's bunny ones are probably my fav
let's see what they'll cook for Cindy
you probably still couldn't afford those skins
swimsuit cindy, bunny cindy, maid cindy, naked king cindy
in my shower cindy
Sitting on me Cindy 
no pull out Cindy
So close to new chapters. I hope no omega bs level boss on hardmode.
very relatable
also reset, I think?
tryndamere is waiting you in chapter 46
(I just commented on it dammit)
"my left arm is a lot stronger than my right arm"
btw rail I got tripple win
vesti died from drake and swha but she lived long enough to kill blanc
damn a pilgrim mold actually gave me a pilgrim that isn't sh*t 
oooo what you get
W

imagine using your pilgrim molds...
imagine saving your molds... 
@swift mango did you find rapunzel yet
Is there any PVP team with Nayuta?
plenty
which pined sites are best to check it?
Hope he goes back to the whale bracket
I'm only getting something called "Belorta molds"
pick any of these based on your invested units
- nayuta helmt rh laplaceT emilia
- nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
- nayuta helmt vestiTU RH swha
- moran nayuta helmt swha vestiTU
- rumani cindy nayuta biscuit midhara
- nayuta rumani cindy biscuit swha
love you like a brother
Mine just says... reads notes "Product 12"?
i'm coming in your bracket
@hollow lagoon see if it still says you're ch1 or if you got downranked because a whel got isekaied in your bracket
that'd be wild tho
it updates immediately with new after reshuffle ranking?

or how would he know if whale got isekaed 
happened to me before that i was changed ranking during reorganizing although i wasn't hit and it was because a similar rank player isekaied in my bracket
My priv team won a battle like this
Her cheer is what makes the team win
oh, interesting
Was it right after season end or sometime during?
damn you beat me 
ye once it says "reorganizing" you've already been shuffled
weird, the rank only change after the new season start, like the time i was c6 and got D1 (rank11)
Scar with helmT buff is freaking scary
Mine still says C1, so if any changes in top ranks wasn't on me atleast then
good ol' indom scar
midhara still mid?
neon will make sure you have more gems than me after the event
nah you'll find her in 50 roll
i can see it 
does SU know about this?
they will ask me +200 and a ticket for 1 copy and say it is average...
for only 1 ssr
I will be at zero gems without Anis or Neon 
the ca winner has smol chance of going into my zone
never mid, always good, but pvp sucks and you can win with the units you want...
are you going to end his CA days?
i thought you were DA whale
how the f do they outsync you
Winning CA? In this economy??
playing
He got me! But he gave me 5 minutes to respond to a new team so I got it back!
There needs to be one winner per season. It's just not you. 
@tropic summit
This is gonna be my last. 
by having more money
"new team" generic abc team from round 3 to round 1
I'm thinking of stepping down and taking it easy until I have all the necessary units built
But he's the kind of guy to keep his Attack window open for three hours so he doesn't have to deal with defense changes
your last for this season, next season is your next 
So we'll see next season if he can actually do it
never give up @humble tiger , believe in the me that believes in you
Ah shit it's end of season already.. .

I'm going for the "made it to every CA season despite being an absolute noob" trophy 
is that even possible? you reading this?! @shell hazel @glad meteor 
become the ch10 gate keeper 
@lone sequoia There's a guy with this on def now 😄 How do i beat it? lol
time to visit your bracket and kick your ass 
if only they'd allow friendly matches 
There is no such trophy. 
There are max level whale putting 1 nikke per team in their CA and doesn't give a shit though. 
It's time to win streak again
Nah. I wanna chill.
Copy it but replace SWHA with VestiT 8%?
biscuit S2 wins... they can't heal back against the immune
Considering that I'm close to 100K and Dia level is 80K...
Yeah.
I can just gap these mfers.
That's what I'm doing (granted my rival is using Emilia instead of SWHA)
Different starting date, like 4 weeks so we won't meet. 
what's the 8%? :p
Charge speed OLs
Naaah. I end up spending gems just to keep myself afloat. This time, I'll just chill at around 6 or 8.
I've tortured myself lonf enough.
what's biscuit s2?
yes skip her
bait unit, the worst one
Also woo 2700 gem reward. Now I'm at 90k for anniversary 
when a defender fall from +50%HP to below that they trigger a immune for 5 sec
you could play the bully and keep dropping someone on purpose while you hang ch6 
don't have it on vesti 😐 actually have on all others tho biscuit noah and helm
you can learn how to use those skills, pvp have been the same for years, same core+ different main dps, even different units/teams work the same @obsidian tangle
That's literally what I did to the Chinese guy. Pulled him from 5 to 8.
oh I understand but he also has biscuit ^^
if a unit hit another with immune on them they can't heal back, if you have units that can target multiple units and avoid the one with immune you deal more dmg, at the same time if they hit your defender they hit for nothing...

the vesti change that rek said is one of the easiest change, if that doesn't work you can try with more dmg, like 2RL+rh or just stall, helmT is 1 hit but you can just use noah or use a unit with higher atk in case you want to use a slower team
which hair...?
I'll give it a try later, thanks 🙂
the rosy special was the same team+ rh instead of* biscuit, moran/noah/helmT/rh/swha, probably to kill the sniper or unit at p5
wdym which

When you got the CH5, 6, and 8 trying to drag you out of CH3, you get really creative on trying to ward them off.
The best thing I did was making slight changes to my def teams to throw them off.
Oh. Your T2 and T3 won today?
How about tomorrow?
I also love the part where after they attacked my defense for their first attempt, I shuffled my defense halfway and when they did their second attack they also lost.
The shit I do in this game...
that's why some people straight up consider lower ranks
the headaches are real
the ninja+30 lvl jump overnight
SPA is now Reorgainizing
I even went as far as dreaming about getting attacked in SPA, waking up, and actually found myself attacked 15 minutes earlier.
Thank lord too the bracket I was in was sweaty af

Hopefully I get a more chill bracket this time
you will get more whales next season, that is how it is
It's fine. I'll sit back and chill this time.
i will probably get +6cn whales this time (8)
I'll go super tryhard again once I have the essentials.
Unless they remove NCC out of my ass, then hell yeah. I can keep myself in CH3.
Yeah. I'm supposed to send this to my union chat. Idk why it's here.
Goddammit I'm lost again.
not
Uh oh reshuffle. Don't take my comfy bracket with the chill whales
They will replace them with tryhards who keeps a white board of your online times.
Wait that's just me projecting.
I actually kept a list of their online times lmao.
look at what they did to yuki 
Reminds me of my early try hard days. Swapping def everyday, log in 15 minutes before reset and 2-3 hours when I was not sleeping. 
Yeah that's literally me.
bet you'd still do this if they'd actually hit you... 
I even have my SPA screen always on my phone till the game kicked me out for being chronically online.
I gem claim, grind campaign and CP pad to prevent that. 
Based off of when they collect their PvP coins?
union log probably, was easier to check that the first few seasons, because they didn't paid attention to their log
there's even better methods
They'd have to accept you as a friend, first
you can just change the window or app in mobile/pc to not refresh your info
they don't, all you need is their ID
and you can grab that from just opening your SP arena
Wait
you can also block them...
ye, it's cursed.
Unreliable. Adding them or checking them from their union is better.
How do they check you from your union?
Oh wow
If your union member hitting you there’s s problem
Checking online time of opponents from union has been my bread and butter for PvP
I unblocked everyone in my block list 2 months ago.
Like this...
you are the only one i unblocked from discord
Just tried it myself. That is cursed

you forgot your #nohomo
PvP channel so cute 
Yeah. This is why some tryhards leave unions so no one would know their online times, and only rejoin during union raids.
for a reason people don't stay in the game all day, only the ones who use scripts are 24/7
or connect after attacks
Railtracer face reveal.
I mean in game. But thanks. 
What's the reason?
i thought rail was a italian dog with a moustache

That doesn't solve anything
I need to continue campaign but I'm getting camped by Mirror Container 
people can check when you play the game and wait a bit to snipe you later... if you record the login for some days you have the time of their attacks/play time, you can record for a month and get their time zone... if they work or study
Rosalina or Peach?
decisions decisions
not allowed
By "all day" I guess you mean "all waking day"?
Hmm. Oh wow. I never thought of this method.
Might not work if they block you
Peach is overrated. But damn. Smash.
then you get neither, and I get both 
respect peach
there are people that are in the game 24/7, last login every 20 minutes or the ones who attack back few seconds later, both use scripts...
I'm talking about Super Smash Bros btw. We should play that.
i'd rather play smash with siren
i'd also play the clap game with siren
But I think I’d like rosalina 
I'd rather (play) smash (with) Siren.

I think i’dd take rosalina over most nikkes 
simp 
rosalina can get pregnant, no risks instead with nikke, checkmate 
Pull out game too strong. Trust 
damn kara got some game 
i wouldnt know
they all say that
I'd rather (play) smash (with) Siren Sugar.
got knows how many grills kara rizz'ed
I think my rival might be doing this now. He attacks back within 20 minutes after my arbitrary attack times
i only got e boys 
I wish I have that rizz.
Guys behave, my cat is looking at chat 
Damn bro...
At least you're getting some.
they also have the notification app (another script) that check rank
does the cat look like this
All I get are
Eww!
We just friends.
I don't like you
*blocked*
that's because you didn't show them your pokemon collection
rookie mistake
Ah goddammit. I gave away all my Pokemon cards long time ago...
I don't have anything in my life other than fat and misery.
Well, if I'm lucky, he'll get traded away
lucky for you, you can actually lose fat... as for misery that's a bit more tricky 
that's how it happened



