pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

well her cores aren't a joke

[umbral belfry]

f2p

[swift mango]

hime simp need to go stronk

[umbral belfry]

if naho fails his cheer after my warning that's not my fault

at least pie wins

[swift mango]

t3 you could believe in libby with moran buff survive scarlet slash. believe in the whale

[umbral belfry]

yeah I'd say t3 is ?

[swift mango]

a win, believe in your f2pbtw power.

[tropic summit]

ye i didn't consider the whale thinking

maybe cores will diff

[formal quiver]

rookie mistake thinking hime isnt whale

[lone sequoia]

T3 soda stun against moran? dmg check moran win (problem will be counter dmg to lib)
T4 probably dmg rng against cindy for indom, A can win
T5 i would say vesti win that

[swift mango]

hime is f2p, wdym

[formal quiver]

29 pulls/day

[swift mango]

normal f2p

f2pbtw

[umbral belfry]

yes very f2p

[tropic summit]

so this?

[shell hazel]

can't believe so many f2p here

[lone sequoia]

i think vesti team can win T5

[tropic summit]

he's denying lib and helmt burst gen in T4, but it's a 2.5RL and a SWHA B3

[lone sequoia]

T3 is a matter of stun timing and dmg from counters to kill lib in case moran burst

[swift mango]

team 4 hime sure win

[lone sequoia]

both teams can win, but dmg from snipers to p5 can misindom

[umbral belfry]

t4 is unwinnable for them. 2 srs hitting decoy = burst gen loss. even if they were 2rl lib is too slow for 3rl

[tropic summit]

so it's ultimately this

up to T5 to make the thing?

[swift mango]

no way a f2pbtw with SR15 anis doesn't have CS investment

[umbral belfry]

example

[lone sequoia]

i'm talking about things that can happen, in the end it will be a cp boosted unit against a lower but better unit, or a random crit to kill a unit in this rng arena

[tropic summit]

@swift mango T5 is a vestiTU win or you see a glimmer of hope?

[umbral belfry]

my anis is 20 cs but t4 was already gg

with or without cs

[lone sequoia]

i have seen the misindom for swha comp, but the interesting thing is that team in groups is always against a siren comp for some reason (NA 1)

[umbral belfry]

not mine

[swift mango]

Soda could stun Noise before she burst.

or stun Bay even

[tropic summit]

ah cuz it's a 2.2RL

[umbral belfry]

to put into tip but at work rn

tldr it's t3 ? and t5 ? hence why i said it's winnable but I lean my loss

[lone sequoia]

swha+vesti against soda p2, can she burst?

[umbral belfry]

believe in tempura 15

[tropic summit]

if soda is linked maybe

[umbral belfry]

she is not. believe but I know his vesti

[tropic summit]

hmmmmm

[umbral belfry]

tell naho to save his cheer

before it's too late

[swift mango]

Nah, Cindy decop keep her at 100% hp against Libby, there is no misindom in the match up.

[tropic summit]

2 SRs units aint popping cindy decoy i guess

[swift mango]

p5 rumani could cause misindom, if not invested, p5 Cindy, nope.

[umbral belfry]

no sir they are not

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

i hope it doesn't happen at the time of blanc burst

[tropic summit]

cindy has higher HP than SWHA, SWHA takes a few rockets in the face

[umbral belfry]

cindy has vigor too so

t4 is doro over

[tropic summit]

tl;dr: believe in the RNG gods and whel power

[swift mango]

it's not at all.

other match up could cause misindom, not this libby one.

[umbral belfry]

save naho's cheer frame rail!!

[lone sequoia]

how your recycling room look*? @umbral belfry

[swift mango]

The only way it misindom is that SW just died at Blanc burst,

[swift mango]

well, linked Soda, who know

[lone sequoia]

why biscuit p3?

[umbral belfry]

actually f2p here no meme

[umbral belfry]

I'm fixing that next ca, there's like 3 absolutes here lol

I didn't want label stun vs vesti but ehhh

[swift mango]

f2p research level

[tropic summit]

eh i wouldn't know who to bet on there, it looked simple but when you guys mentioned cores maybe it isn't

[umbral belfry]

told you I was f2p

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[umbral belfry]

no one believed me

[lone sequoia]

for that reason your max core cindy is low cp

[umbral belfry]

yeah mine is mid, not in a rush ti fix cindy

just eh

[swift mango]

put Label p3

[umbral belfry]

you're gonna make naho mess up his frame!!!

[swift mango]

[umbral belfry]

I am, said I'm doing that next ca in case more absolutes spawn

if label gets stunned oh well

[lone sequoia]

one of the bad parts about dmg test, many things can happen

[umbral belfry]

better p3 label than p5 label at least

when will people realize that's a big risk

[lone sequoia]

it is fine, not a problem against most SG comps or sniper

[swift mango]

against Vesti? She will.
Your Soda is linked, right?

[lone sequoia]

nop

[swift mango]

believe you won't meet SG back shot ever.

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

nope, nor do i want to in case scar mirror

[tropic summit]

hime and back shots

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kolow

[swift mango]

eh, GL with Soda survive

[umbral belfry]

not fine imo. excluding sgs, too many times have I seen label dying bc she got stunned and then died = gg team

at least for sgs put cindy in p4 for more protection

[tropic summit]

research and core, believe

[umbral belfry]

but there's no reason why cindy shouldn't be p5 on that team

[swift mango]

in f2p we trust. it's just core though

[umbral belfry]

you win vs sgs anyway along with ruining sr burst gen

so why would you not do p5 cindy

[lone sequoia]

label p5 and no b1?

[umbral belfry]

blanc p1, label p3, cindy p5

[lone sequoia]

b1*

[umbral belfry]

risk label getting stunned vs vesti but bisc higher chance of death p3

[umbral belfry]

yes, assuming the blanc swha label team

saw that team die many times bc label got stunned and then died

easy fix

no reason why cindy shouldn't be p5

[fair pivot]

It happened to me last time now I had biscuit p3 because I assumed she would proc before dying vs absolute but not sure what's best

[umbral belfry]

I'm putting label p3 next time, if she gets stunned it is what it is

label stunned > bisc dying and you lose an immune

[placid bloom]

it's only 1s stun, that won't matter much

[umbral belfry]

but yeah get label outta that p5 lol

[swift mango]

absolute with rosa would get 2 sacc from sw+biscur and burst.

[umbral belfry]

100% get her out

[lone sequoia]

i used rumani, no label here

[umbral belfry]

or at least do p4 cindy to save from sgs skipping her post shield break if label p5

[formal quiver]

p3 label gets hit with normal rl splash

her shield is fat like that

[umbral belfry]

yeah but looking back I think i still prefer p3 label in case absolute

[swift mango]

wut?

[umbral belfry]

was that from scar

can't tell rn busy

[lone sequoia]

counters

[formal quiver]

no its from trina and centi and jackal its not counters

counters dont hit shield

[lone sequoia]

wait, i forgot that label have the dmg reduction buff xd

[umbral belfry]

[fair pivot]

This confused me so I reread Rosa's skill and apparently it counts for both teams not just sacs

[umbral belfry]

still gonna do p3 label

[formal quiver]

hime will see a label team lose to a normal scar team and think yea i wanna do this positioning

[umbral belfry]

I'm not gonna have my biscuit explode to a random absolute and cost me the match (like ace heehoo)

granted his blanc exploded

[lone sequoia]

imagine, many people who jumped to SG rosanna tried it for mirror thinking only their rosanna proc the skills (around first CA seasons)

[formal quiver]

then dont run label if youre gna sac the scar matchup

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-drake-drake-laptop-drake-computer-doro-gif-11623306513656833402

[lone sequoia]

join rumani team

label will die when next scar alt get banner

[umbral belfry]

rumani is busy in my cope 2rl lib team

and with slower indoms I dint wanna loae like 80% indoms

[formal quiver]

you want to lose to scar with label

[umbral belfry]

not on my current team she wont

[formal quiver]

did you not see the video

[lone sequoia]

her team have biscuit p3

[umbral belfry]

I am surrounded by doggos and you're muted

[fair pivot]

Why did that happen?

[formal quiver]

label shield is positioned so rls will hit it

[lone sequoia]

hurt box, explosion range wide enough for normal RL to hit label shield

[compact ore]

hime muted someone for saying biscuit?

[umbral belfry]

biscuit

[formal quiver]

yea have fun at your "job"

[umbral belfry]

my live reaction to that information

[compact ore]

DOGGO

[formal quiver]

im saving you with known info about matchup losing mistakes and this is how i get treated smh

[lone sequoia]

i wonder if we will get nihilister alt or treasure...

alt doesn't look as good as OG

[swift mango]

mind as well just go with the common

Blanc+SW+Cindy+Biscuit+Label, making Biscuit extra tanky and pray you don't meet SG backshot or siren,

[umbral belfry]

that's Kellogg

[umbral belfry]

you wouldn't catch me running p5 label buddy

[formal quiver]

you wouldn't catch me running p3 label buddy

[compact ore]

thats doggo

[umbral belfry]

maybe I'll run p3 bisc until she dies by ab absolute and say 'this is 2ds fault'

[lone sequoia]

p5 biscuit

[formal quiver]

fine run p3 label. dont be mad at me when borgar wins again

[umbral belfry]

precisely

[swift mango]

tbh, we won't catch you running anything for that matter,

[lone sequoia]

good enough for SP

[umbral belfry]

my live reaction to that information

[formal quiver]

why his eyebals like that is he stupid

[compact ore]

okay but this one looks retarted

[umbral belfry]

be nice

HEY

[compact ore]

IM NOT SAYING HES NOT CUTE

[umbral belfry]

mods

[compact ore]

but hes special kind of cute

[quick lake]

[livid wadi]

What teams for Moran (Treasure) would be good

[lone sequoia]

moran b1+ anything you want

except smg, we don't like smg

[umbral belfry]

you're gonna lose all your anis pulls for this

[quick lake]

can check pins

[lone sequoia]

i'm not a fan of rat (dogs) but i still don't understand the people who try to bre3d those only to sell them

why is that word banned?

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

sland for f?

[shell hazel]

[compact ore]

Its okay that was always gonna happen

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-plate-muncher-diagnal-gif-8663839893206890204

[spark granite]

Usually I’m confident but with vestiTU I wanna make sure if this is a win?

[steady raft]

I'd say it's winnable since the enemy team doesn't have Blanc

[spark granite]

That’s what I think too, but I just wanted to make sure, Tyty

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit I named my cat

[merry patio]

how does this team works exactly? I don't really know what treasure bay does

[fast nest]

Bay share dmg propotially with teammates.

97% on bay cover and 3%on bay.
After cover broken, bay take 40% and others 15%.
This is the logic.

If bay is under tug of war, others will take 60% of dmg.

[versed mesa]

Alright yeah, now I have the same opponents in Rookie that I've had in SP since anniversary shuffle. I feel like people who started at launch like me have quit enough that the groups are shrinking and condensing

[fast nest]

This is how the team work.
Moran and bay will provide 35.14+8.87% dmg reduc.
At the same time bay and moran are under tug of war. So other 3 take dmg. And take 45% of them.

[merry patio]

basically makes the entire team really tanky, I guess that's why scarlet/cinderella is not working, I'm not sure how to face that

[fast nest]

This is how much they will take. 17.5% of dmg. So libby burst cannot kill them.

[merry patio]

is there any natural counter to that share/reduction dmg?

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

[fast nest]

1. Use siren libby
2. Nayuta libby
   Etc

[lone sequoia]

natural counter to shared dmg? only DoT, but is not a real counter for that team, you can just nuke with lib or go with something like a indom main dps+ vesti sub dps to proc biscuit S2 early

[fast nest]

Oh if Thelm. Then differen.t

Blanc vesti ada can be a key.

[lone sequoia]

i would just use indom swha+vesti sub dps

[merry patio]

I guess I need to focus on upgrading my liberalio, all the issues I'm having lately are solved by her lol

[lone sequoia]

indom moran+ mihara was a fun match up

[spiral onyx]

69.9% crit, plus whatever cdmg Mast and friends gives VestiT

[lone sequoia]

mast was around 23%%?

[fast nest]

23.56ish

[spiral onyx]

Can theoretically push it up to 72% or so but my union is shouting at me to save rocks for 3.5 anni units

[lone sequoia]

remember that SU should "increase" the rocks "again"

[fast nest]

They gonna add feature for mining more rocks.

[versed mesa]

My Rookie arena top 6 looks almost exactly like my SP arena top 6 now The only small difference is the order of players.

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

this last month was my lowest in rock drops, 43 rocks in 30 days of kraken s9

and that happen every time SU "increase" the rock drops

[fast nest]

But what I want from them is they need to reward the amount of rocks and modules as much as the duration we didnt receive "daily reward" from Surface.

How many days passed from the end of service of Surface? 4months?

[lone sequoia]

i got less rocks from AI since the surface beta started

then it didn't go back to the normal

[fast nest]

I need 72 rocks reward from SU.

[merry patio]

this worked thanks! tho I wasted 1 try cos the indom went to vesti lol

[lone sequoia]

60~70 drops, around 50 since surface, 50 and 43 this last 2 months since they said they will increase the rock amount in april patch

[lone sequoia]

no jackal or HP check?

[merry patio]

this is the team I used but I placed blanc first for whatever reason and the indom went to vesti

[lone sequoia]

i just want fixed amount of rocks from kraken, 3 rocks per day and done or 2 daily+ kraken mision to at least get back to 70

[fast nest]

You mean it seems they lowered reward. Correct?

[lone sequoia]

yes

i record my AI drops everyday

[fast nest]

[lone sequoia]

and count month for every 30 days

[fast nest]

[lone sequoia]

i also record x2 drops but i don't count those to the normal amount of rocks

[covert lintel]

Higher cs win

[umbral belfry]

they increase it by me stealing everyone's rocks

[lone sequoia]

"phat" hime next week

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

every time SU said that they will increase the rocks i think of someone scraping (or using a grater/shredder) rocks as if it were cheese , giving you just a little and saying don't waste it all to your face...

[tender brook]

quick question does burst time matter in PVP ie like say Blanc has a 60s cooldown and Biscuit has a 40s cooldown do they matter or whats like the consenus ?

[glad meteor]

Usually not really. The match is over by the first burst most the time

[tender brook]

so then just have a minimum of 1 burst type of each and then fill in who has the best Skill 1 and 2 and DPS afterwards

[barren zephyr]

Could someone cook up some SP Arena teams for me please? 🥺

[glad meteor]

Also need some

• tanking
• burst generation
• synergy between teammates

[wild hemlock]

I don't understand how label is being hit p3 here. Is she dummy thicc or something

[formal quiver]

dont have to understand it just know that it happens

https://i.imgur.com/2sjWpkD.png

something like this. circles are nikkes. lines are cover. thingy in the middle is shield. and red circle is explosion radius zone

[glad meteor]

Scar s2 right

I remember soda burst even removed label shield

Label shield is weird

[formal quiver]

no counters dont hit shield. thats known behavior with kilo. its just explosion radius from the rls

[glad meteor]

Rls hit Label P3. Interesting

Label team kinda need 2 b1

[wild hemlock]

Damn she's really dummy thicc

[formal quiver]

i know. . .

[wild hemlock]

[glad meteor]

[tidal lichen]

@tropic summit

[lost ether]

their rapu is so weak it actually stunned my team bruh

[rich quail]

gib

[umbral belfry]

no

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/reaching-hand-out-give-you-a-hand-lend-you-a-hand-let-me-help-you-maddie-ziegler-gif-14282083

[undone blaze]

Is OG Scarlet with Jackal link and Trina be a good comp? Would she be placed in P1/P2?

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon one day we'll win

[hollow lagoon]

Almost

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/amate-yuzuriha-gquuuuuux-machu-gundam-gquuuuuux-mobile-suit-gundam-gquuuuuux-gif-9413436719310695357

[forest zodiac]

shouldn't my t3 win? (don't mind my t2 lol)
them losing was just rng?

[glad meteor]

The have 3 b3

Nayu need to kill all 3. Or they need to die same frame as infom to win

Or kill blanc with vesti ele

Invest dependent. But with 2 srs, should technically win

[lost ether]

t3 i usually use a faster burst team

[glad meteor]

Rosa plus nayu should guarantee vesti plus lib death
2 SR + nayu should kill ada. But didnt check speed

[tender brook]

these are my "best pvpers" i have in my roster
which ones should I put in my loadouts (my burst 1 for loadouts go 1: Emma Tact Upgrade, 2: Liter, 3: Emma)

||yes i use an excel sheet cuz im a sweaty nerd also the rankings are based on prydwen (not sure if they are reliable source tho)||

[formal heart]

can someone help me with pvp building, im losing battles with way higher power level

[rich quail]

#pvp-arena message

This will always be under “Pins” under “Standard SPA Defence Teams”

You can ask peeps here about matchups and how synergies work on this channel

[formal heart]

what are some good synergies

[formal heart]

i see my prob is my 1 bursts

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[hollow lagoon]

@tidal lichen Bru why u go into it twice

[tidal lichen]

youre going down.

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet

@tropic summit why u make him booli me

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/russian-vodka-dance-honda-street-fighter-gif-16598900

[umbral crown]

When attacking C2

[wild patio]

hes too crazy

always on the watch

[umbral crown]

Be crazier

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-toy-story3-gif-25030026

[umbral crown]

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-25177956

[umbral crown]

Ez

[compact ore]

@lunar pawn found him

i drop him by 11

[hollow lagoon]

[charred wedge]

Im able to get privatyT in to stun an entire team but how can she excel?

[keen vapor]

Idk

[charred wedge]

welp, seems kinda gimmicky well thanks

Want her on a 3rd team for defense but man cant find the key

[keen vapor]

I read the pin and says she needs buffing and Emilia/Laplace to delete the enemy

Something something a Noah Privaty team

[charred wedge]

Darn

[keen vapor]

[versed mesa]

What would you guys do against this Rookie team? Moran/Noah/Biscuit/SWHA/Jackal

[gritty ridge]

2rl Rosa

[umbral crown]

Beat him

[versed mesa]

Tbh I might just go for other easier opponents but was curious

[umbral crown]

Auto and hope for the best

[versed mesa]

The guy who has been contented with just holding C2 in SP, now that he is in the same Rookie group after shuffle, suddenly he went immediately from 735 to 741 for the boost in CP and his SP defense also went up by 450k while he was just full chill before

[umbral crown]

he was waiting for this moment

[versed mesa]

The Rookie arena main

[umbral crown]

he wants to send a message

trust, he gonna jim there

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-leave-them-on-read-over-it-doesnt-matter-whatever-gif-15423440

[oak hatch]

Swha indom with rh

[compact ore]

[umbral crown]

i would

[compact ore]

i already abused the poor kid

[umbral crown]

now the rich kid?

[compact ore]

is that you?

[umbral crown]

nope

im just a product of everyones imagination

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/maika-sakuranomiya-blend-s-anime-i-see-you-gif-16062647

[umbral crown]

Do you

[compact ore]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-movies-rule-double-dragon-movie-i-can-see-you-gif-3236750428534114002

[umbral crown]

[lost ether]

A.I. response

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/what-have-you-done-homelander

[tropic summit]

lmao SWHA instantly died

and ye lvl 1 synchro is pure evil, a spit and they fall

[tropic summit]

who's boolin who eh... you watched the video?

[hollow lagoon]

ya man he almost keeled me

[echo ferry]

What team(s) to use against Moran(tr)/Noah/Cinderella/Helm(tr)/Jackal?

[fast nest]

Absolute squad ready

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3

[tropic summit]

DPS noah biscuit archetype

e.g.:

• noah biscuit vestiTU HelmT RH
• noah biscuit SWHA RH HelmT

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

if anything we tested it's still very underdog proof

your korean friendo gonna need to sync up a bit more before he could attempt

[hollow lagoon]

He could

But he didn’t yet

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/winterz-soon

[keen smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1156617746566623294.webp?size=128&animated=true

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kaede-azusagawa-rascal-does-not-dream-of-bunny-girl-senpai-11

[lost ether]

@tropic summit i struggle so much against these comps man

[tropic summit]

i see you're running mostly mirrored matchups, no wonder you do

try to use proper counters next time

[lost ether]

[tropic summit]

lemme grab something i posted earlier yesterday

[lost ether]

[tropic summit]

@lost ether

a few of the teams you showed for example were weak to indom and to noah-biscuit

(step 3)

once you've a clue of their speed and the team purpose, if you use units accordingly, you won't struggle

this one for example is a pseudo stall with nuke, little to no DPS:

[lost ether]

i think that emi was pretty fast

[tropic summit]

this one is an anti nuke with nuke, little DPS and without real stall (no biscuit and moran), just sustain:

meaning it's weak to hard carry indoms

so there you go:

1. deal with the lib team with an indom type (vestiTU or SWHA)
2. deal with the cindy team with an anti nuke DPS oriented (noah biscuit DPS flex flex)

next time try to study the enemy teams, the units and their purpose

especially if they're a biscuit stall or a regular stall and if glass cannon or anti nuke etc

[lost ether]

hmm, i tried with vesti indom but got deleted, I'll try sw next time

[tropic summit]

against that one swha indom is actually easier

always consider if SWHA or VestiTU based on presence of defenders and biscuit

and ofc based on enemy elemental code

you used vestiTU against heavy pressure and what's worse, 2 water codes

your link will take insane damage and in fact you died pre burst

in this case, you'll want an indom with biscuit to help you survive early damage

e.g:

jackal blanc swha biscuit ada
jackal blanc swha biscuit laplaceT
jackal blanc swha biscuit flex

you can also just decide to skip that team if it's too expensive

the other 2 teams are way easier than this one for example

in this case the first thing you should see here is:

• blanc p1
• enemy has no protection for blanc, meaning if you disable blanc, they're B2-less

so how can you abuse this here? stun blanc and use a wiper

[lost ether]

for the pseudo stall team, should i use noah vesti with a slower team?

[tropic summit]

first things first, you need to check their speed:

[lost ether]

cuz that team is 2rl so i didnt think of using siren

[tropic summit]

now 3RL means they can be either 2.5RL via CS% or 3RL

to catch cindy nuke, noah needs to match cindy burst timing

[lost ether]

[tropic summit]

since we've footage, this is easy:

They shot 3RL and still didn't burst, enemy is 3RL

now all you need is a noah-biscuit archetype on 3RL with a DPS oriented B3

for example:

[lost ether]

[tropic summit]

noah: anti nuke
crown: helps keeping team slow, will contribute buffing
vestiTU: your DPS B3
biscuit: helps keeping noah alive and stalling
noise: further sustain, helps keeping team slower than a rumani would

[tropic summit]

in this case p2 and p5 are flexable, as in you could run a moran and any other passive unit that contributes something but keeps team slow

as long as you catch cindy nuke, enemy team is essentially pepega

another thing you could run here is straight forward 2RL vestiTU indom, as you'd deny biscuit and moran

vestiTU will pop both biscuit stacks early, you'll then slowly chip them away

since defender in p1 and p2 will both eat biscuit stacks, your vestiTU only needs to wait a few seconds before her ultra buffed ass will clear all 5 of them

[lost ether]

[tropic summit]

hopefully i helped giving you some ideas

[lost ether]

yes ty master rail

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

with that said, here is an overall solution with what we talked about

• vestiTU indom to counter their moran centi biscuit and punish their 3RL cindy
• noah anti nuke to counter liberalio and fight back with DPS oriented B3

miranda is a flexible B1, so slot w/e you got (liter, label etc)

[lost ether]

yeah i will prob use label for that

she is 7/10/7 for a reason

[swift mango]

Can I imagine you as a bib boobs mommy?

[tropic summit]

who's your favourite on azur lane

[lost ether]

u dont have to if u search up the name
cuz i did it

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/azur-lane-taihou

[keen wolf]

Team to beat TMoran/TacVesti/SWHA/Jackal/Blanc?

[tropic summit]

oh wow, good tastes

[tropic summit]

noah helmT SWHA biscuit moran, team assumed not in deficit (multiply enemy CP for 0.846, your team needs to be above that value)

[keen wolf]

I'm above, worked like a charm, thx

[keen smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-doro-meme-rose-gif-16200916202962056852

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doro-eat

[keen smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-11251084230089380777

i love how this like traumatic depressing game has one inside joke and its just that little freak

[keen wolf]

And what about a counter to this counter, if it gets copied?

[keen smelt]

one of the most complicated and grey area characters and shes just

[tropic summit]

would need a siren to stun your noah and a nuker
or a slow cindy/lib nuke

alternatively a jackal blanc vestiTU ada flex indom
noise bay biscuit helmt swha may also out trade based on invest

[noble python]

I’ve been looking to change up my defense teams I was looking at the top of my bracket for ideas but a lot of the teams they have are already pretty similar to what I have already 💀 and I could only make 1 unique team from what they have plus considering Label makes Scarlet and Cindy useless on defense that loses me out on 2 big nukers

[keen wolf]

many thanks

[tropic summit]

that's why we love doro

[keen smelt]

rail

why have you been playing nikke for 10 hours

[tropic summit]

yeah defense gotta be very creative once most meta ones got cracked

[keen smelt]

[noble python]

Why do you think he’s so high sync level lmao

[tropic summit]

it's actually on idle, i'm not actively playing it

[noble python]

Yeah exactly unfortunately I’m not that good at being creative XDX

[keen smelt]

i leveled like 30 towers today guys

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-pat-10

[keen smelt]

i am one of the worst players in this game quite frankly especially since my sync is high and my account age is old

everyone in team building makes fun of me

[tropic summit]

even if that was the case, there's nothing wrong with that

as long as you enjoy the game 's all gud

let them make fun of you, you still gonna do what you want

[keen smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-alice-pyeonsiks92-gif-9785419766974894040

to be fair reddit told me to skip ada so i skipepd ada

i joined the discord one month too late

[noble python]

Tbf Ada is niche and with Label now existing Electric as a whole has went down a lot

[keen smelt]

im stuck at MC

my deficit isnt even bad, jts just… my units and inability to play

[tropic summit]

try this next marin

[keen smelt]

rail did you make thag chart yourself

[noble python]

Will do Rail and ty

[tropic summit]

thag chart?

[quaint anchor]

Ada is very good in pve though

[keen smelt]

hi kei

[noble python]

They meant that chart

[quaint anchor]

Listening to Reddit and skipping Ada

[quaint anchor]

Hello meo

[tropic summit]

ask @gritty ridge to help you out, surely he can be helpful sometimes

[keen smelt]

lmfaoooo he hasnt been in my dms today he must be busy

[tropic summit]

wow, silly boi he's touching grass

[quaint anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234426242439315517/1479709563124191302/1224756001090043975.gif

[keen smelt]

he probably worked today

he also had a storm come through so maybe hes cleaning up that mess

[tropic summit]

oh that sucks

he actually got to work + clean mess

[keen smelt]

i think hes okay he was texting after the storm passed through

[rocky sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-prinz-eugen-my-beloved-gif-24425327

[humble tiger]

Oh wait. I picked the wrong team and almost lost.

@tropic summit

Anyways...

Didn't work

[keen smelt]

L

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/prinz-eugen-and-djalexlloyd2-azur-lane-gif-14650825230326025855

[humble tiger]

L Railtracer.

[keen smelt]

wat the hell is ur pfp

[tropic summit]

i take it you couldn't kill noah in time pre burst ye?

[humble tiger]

Ye lmao.

[swift mango]

A button

[tropic summit]

meh, skip that opponent until you unlock blanc or noah

[keen smelt]

[humble tiger]

Siren would've done me favors. If she doesn't appear for 3.5 as a rerun I will die.

[tropic summit]

oh ye that too

[keen smelt]

sirenless in the big 2026

[humble tiger]

Luck issue.

[keen smelt]

its okay @mint swallow is still crownless

[tropic summit]

casually murdering people, sassuga meo

[keen smelt]

same with @cedar jackal

[humble tiger]

Yeah. Unlike me. I actually got Crown on standard.

[keen smelt]

neat

i dont remember how quickly i got crown but i did get her on her banner

iirc i got pretty lucky

i honestly tend to do well on pilgrim banners, every other banner i dont do well though. i always miss a winter unit

[humble tiger]

My luck is always random.

Either I get the unit or I mileage.

I mileage more unfortunately.

[bleak shale]

Ironically getting crown on standard is more likely than on random banner

[keen smelt]

they didnt rerun crown during siren so i doubt they will this half anni either

[bleak shale]

Half ani and Ani never had a rerun iirc

They did a year 1 pilgrim paid banner tho I forget when

[keen smelt]

anni does i think

[bleak shale]

Doesnt

Did u see Cindy when lib nay came

[keen smelt]

mmm true

but they reran red hood during cindy and doro during red hood i believe

[bleak shale]

Only seasonal is garenteed rerun next year (summer Xmas ny)

[keen smelt]

or am i schizo

[bleak shale]

That was year 1 paid banner rerun

[keen smelt]

ah

[bleak shale]

Cuz they reran all limited y1

[keen smelt]

i had just joined the game so i dont remember too well

[bleak shale]

It was mod rh doro or sbs iirc for 50

[humble tiger]

During 3rd Anni they reran 3 units and put them into 1 banner.

[keen smelt]

sbs was new years after red hood

[swift mango]

where rapu?

[bleak shale]

That was the paid banner no?

[keen smelt]

i remember bc i didnt realize how rare pilgrims were so i skipped sbs and didnt get her until rapi banner

[bleak shale]

Rapu isn't a banner, shes release nikke

[humble tiger]

Nah.
3rd Anni.

Dorothy, Red Hood, Modernia

Select your rate up and pull.

[swift mango]

but she is year one

[humble tiger]

The three of them exist in 1 banner and you can select which one you want rate up with.

[keen smelt]

2 and a half years and no snow white

[humble tiger]

That's where I got my Red Hood. I wanted to pull for Modernia but they said she's bad now so I just left it at that.

[bleak shale]

I only remember a pay only banner where u get x pulls and a garenteed pilgrim

[humble tiger]

That's during NY.

$55 SBS lmao.

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

the scams of scams

[humble tiger]

Talking about these.

I actually forgot the details lmao.

But yeah. I only went for Red Hood. Thankfully I got her without mileage.

I mileaged Nayuta and got Liberalio on the 11th free pull.

[bleak shale]

That would also be all our year1 pilgrims tbh. Mod is ny and doro is 0.5

So some people might be praying we see year2 this year

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[keen smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-13588788209051323589

[humble tiger]

For 4th anniversary maybe. Cope.

[charred quail]

@tropic summit Does the building attack team conditions also apply for spa?

The one you talked about yesterday

[mint swallow]

did not know you come to pvp-arena. hello meo now for your transgressions towards me you shall send me a picture of your cat

[keen smelt]

team building is boring lately and rail is funny and nice so

[humble tiger]

The freaking trenches.

[austere marsh]

Good morning

[humble tiger]

Same union?

This makes it harder to choose lmao.

This one?

Or this one? Who wins?

[charred quail]

@severe tundra You need to get your c6 back. The carmine guy has attacked you again

[severe tundra]

lmao thanks for the heads up. I just took it back. I think that's his second for the day. I don't think he gems in SP.

[charred quail]

👍

[severe tundra]

The funny thing is that I can beat Valiant, but I know for a fact that he gems for his rank, which is weird because it's not top 4 and there's no additional rewards for being 5 compared to 6.

[charred quail]

Yesterday, I said i will be using the rank 5 as a test subject to get better at pvp since I made a truce with you

[charred quail]

He gems attempts?

[severe tundra]

Yeah he attacked me 3 times in 1 day

[charred quail]

👍

[charred quail]

Yes. That's weird

[severe tundra]

You could probably beat him. Just don't try against his snow white. That one's the one that's most invested and hardest to take down.

[charred quail]

my snow white heavy armor is core 7 so maybe i could beat his snow white team

[severe tundra]

[charred quail]

my snow white heavy armor is built for pve so maybe you are right

[severe tundra]

I feeeeel like he has fast burst on that team and the offense took out some burst ppl so it screwed with my strategy.

I'm just saying the other two are easier to counter.

[charred quail]

Im still getting my pvp cubes up and core units overloaded since i didnt actually do pvp and was only doing pve while being stuck at d2 until 2 weeks ago

[charred quail]

👍 . im going to attempt to beat his snow white team once i get my core units built. ill let you know in the future if i do beat that team. I feel like i have a good chance to beat his snow white with my snow white

[severe tundra]

good luck! I hope you win haha

[glad meteor]

[charred quail]

I just started taking pvp seriously 2 weeks ago. I was mainly doing pve before that. Here's my cubes

[glad meteor]

Doing pvp cubes?

[charred quail]

yes. i am now

[glad meteor]

PvP g0oning

[charred quail]

Yes. go0ning tempering to 15 and the other two to 7

[glad meteor]

My bracket too whale now. Regret investing in pvp cubes

Next week reorg

[severe tundra]

I got resilience to 14 and I don't want to push to 15 because of cap

I started investing in pvp when I found out it rewards gems lol

[charred quail]

i started doing pvp cause of not having anything to do in pve while being walled

[severe tundra]

getting #1 in your union in minigames lol

[glad meteor]

Now there’s more overlap with pve and pve units so its easier to get into pvp

[charred quail]

I also started doing pvp so i didnt have to whale as much

@severe tundra I just noticed Valiant's snow white is also core 7. Since my snow white is also at core 7, i think i have equal chances to beat his snow white team.

[severe tundra]

All I'm saying is that you should consider if there's a significant CP differential between your teams that the OL gear might be stacked.

[keen smelt]

i have to be up at 8 tomorrow, 7 on saturday, and 8 on sunday sigh

[charred quail]

👍 . I see. You're right. You already know im not going to go too hard on pvp so that i dont brick pve

[severe tundra]

The way I like to look at it is that I will use PVP units every day and probably have to fend off attacks everyday. PVE I do some levels, get walled and don't do anything for like a week.

[charred quail]

I do have core advantage on other units such as nayuta so maybe that makes up for it

[severe tundra]

[quick lake]

seeing a successful defend in pvp is the best feeling

[charred quail]

You won't need to fend off my attacks tho since i wont be attacking you

That's 1 less person to fend off

[severe tundra]

[neon ginkgo]

I def do not gem for my rank lmao

maybe earlier when people kept stealing and if I could reasonably say it's worth it but

[charred quail]

@severe tundra I think i might go for the rank 3 guy instead cause this guy keeps attacking me in rookie arena

xD

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/so-beautiful-i-cant-crying-happy-gif-18418534

[slender radish]

Is there legit any instance where playing Centi makes sense in Champions Arena if you bricked her treasure?

[surreal citrus]

Lol didn't know hitting someone 3 times in rookie arena is considered whaling

[oak smelt]

Stall comp or instances where you want your opponent to burst faster than you

[slender radish]

Yeah i just can't think of any instances where i'd want my opponent to burst first hahaa

[quick lake]

Against opponent indom comps when u want them to burst first

[terse abyss]

damn i already upgraded to phase 2 too

welp

why in the world would shield generate more burst for the enemy É

[oak smelt]

More targets as shield count as additional targets

[raven plover]

Im phase 3 enjoyers

[lost ether]

[keen smelt]

her treasure is so pretty too

and its the worst one

like it makes her worse dude

[tropic summit]

ye for both rookie and sp arena

[tame vessel]

hi

[shell hazel]

broccoli soon Rail, I will wait for the day to switch over so I get 4 of the 5 tickets but that is the limit of my patience lol

btw I went to your ship but think all your stuff was already boosted

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-ready-lets-go-3

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-kanna-kanna-kamui-rainy-playing-in-the-rain-gif-16603621605659820925

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-miss-kobayashis-maid-dragon-gif-21149874

[tame vessel]

what is this chat

i need help in pvp help me ples guys

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/misskobayashi-gif-6280509049168294087

[tropic summit]

post your box without units selected

ordered by strength, no other filter

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh drakeT (quantum on centi)
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc lib (quantum on jackal and xmaiden, vigor on liberalio)
• moran siren SBS SWHA noah

Rookie

• vestiTU helmT SWHA siren noah

Notes

• wishlist/build: rumani, trina, centi, biscuit, noah, jackal, blanc
• finish/build moran treasure
• consider lappy treasure on medium term and build up rosanna

[forest zodiac]

shouldn't my t3 win? (don't mind my t2 lol)
them losing was just rng?

[tame vessel]

can i use privt or cindy somewhere? cuz my draket have no ols

[tropic summit]

drakeT is a burst gen unit, you're short of burst gen options, as i said in the notes

cindy is kind of mid on defense, because she has gained more counters over time

lastly privT is a water code and very poor burst gen, so she needs very particular teams to use her, additionally her def output is a bit mid compared to other options

start by fixing what i told you in the notes, then you could run variants that can allow using cindy and privT without killing your threat

[tame vessel]

ok

[tropic summit]

T3 will lose if you fail to kill all 3 attackers and they get to indom either of them, so it's likely you left ada alive and she got to indom then solo your team

that team is easier if you just run the usual stall + lifesteal (noah biscuit helmt swha moran)

[tame vessel]

still need 1 moran for morant

[tropic summit]

go get her

[gaunt pulsar]

Moran is still useable without treasure

[tame vessel]

i just got first moran in the week

[tropic summit]

get her faster

[tame vessel]

if i got her sooner i would have change mileage for her instead priv

[forest zodiac]

will this work or it being 3rl is too slow?

I'm not sure how to speed up this since helm and swha are in team 3

[tropic summit]

what are you trying to do here? glass cannon against stall with anti nuke is gonna shred you

unless somehow you lethal SWHA, then it might have a chance

against that team opt for the following:

• vestiTU indom (win during FB phase)
• blanc lib crown rapu biscuit (bypass and 1hitko)

[forest zodiac]

well as it is seen above I was doing crown thing but biscuit is now in t3

[tropic summit]

is there any reason you can't run this?

alternative with indom:

[forest zodiac]

I guess last time I was calculating against this\similar t2 I didn't had enough cp

I guess this should work now?

[tropic summit]

you don't have enough CP with an indom team? that's a bad sign

[forest zodiac]

not enough on t2, not t1

[tropic summit]

need 1.273k for that moran team, you're in deficit

Change to indom for moran team

the other team is fine instead, 1321kCP requirement so you're in range

[forest zodiac]

seems like it is still not enough

[tropic summit]

gonna need to bench centi and run a flex higher CP burst gen option

[forest zodiac]

trina makes it barely in

[tropic summit]

check the following:

• vestiTU blanc RH lib jackal
• vestiTU blanc RH SWHA jackal
• vestiTU blanc RH SBS jackal

if trina makes it then it's easier, you don't have to bother checking links

[forest zodiac]

https://iili.io/BUSvbd7.png

so even if small amount of in it should be fine?

[tropic summit]

barely in range ye

ye you're not hit with penalty

[forest zodiac]

moran was immune during vesti indom

[tropic summit]

you failed to pop biscuit stack on moran

what's your vestiTU atk% OL?

[forest zodiac]

12%

[tropic summit]

oh oke fairly low

we need to give your vestiTU a little help hitting p1

laplaceT can be used without stealing link?

vesti blanc rh laplaceT jackal

[forest zodiac]

don't have her

[tropic summit]

drakeT/emilia

bsoda

[gaunt pulsar]

i usually indom swha in p1 with vesti helping poping stack

[tropic summit]

except his vesti alone already isn't enough popping it, although maybe if we prevent noah debuff from hitting vesti it might be sufficient

iirc his swha steals his link too

[forest zodiac]

like this?

[tropic summit]

CP is in range and this adds damage to p1, should probably be enough to prevent moran from avoiding using biscuit stack

[gaunt pulsar]

with help of swha should do it, she loses her first shot due to trina but she hits with second almost full one before they b2

i guess drake could work too

[tropic summit]

so you got 2 choices @forest zodiac :

• the current one, i think it should add enough dmg as is, ensure vestiTU stays linked and lowest HP in link
• @gaunt pulsar suggestion but you need to check links with SWHA in the equation

[forest zodiac]

hold on I'll try hit 1 more line

of atk

[tropic summit]

eh i think with drakeT you got plenty

she hits hard and will hit harder for a few shots via RH buff

she also gives you passive atk% buff

[gaunt pulsar]

my vesti is poor too for the record* 12%

[tropic summit]

mine is sort of there, probably should get her a tad more ele and ammo

[tropic summit]

told ya check links

[forest zodiac]

I thought I need to check links in case of swha

ah

[tropic summit]

drakeT is an attacker

[forest zodiac]

well rip

[tropic summit]

well you always learn from this, don't worry

[gaunt pulsar]

we do be taking risks with 2 fire against swha also

[tropic summit]

nah the assumption was drakeT isn't linked

if unlinked it's unlikely she gets kicked in low HP to steal it, at least from my own experience

[gaunt pulsar]

with help of helm can, but yea, need goated on the other side, or poor units on yours

[tropic summit]

yeah

there's no helmT or passive buffers on enemy side here at least

[oak smelt]

Is there a better counter to this assuming Rosa is unable to wipe at b1?

[gaunt pulsar]

wrong vid?

[oak smelt]

No, i didn't use Rosa here

[tropic summit]

enemy side is essentially glass cannon with lifesteal, on that front you got a few other options

• noah biscuit archetype (invulnerable taunter will deny lifesteal), then add a nuker (cindy/lib)
• anti nuke team with nuker (same logic, without needing biscuit)

example teams:

• moran rumani lib helmt noah
• noise rumani cindy helmt noah
• noah biscuit lib helmt noise
• noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani

[oak smelt]

No Noah lol

[tropic summit]

the team you badly don't wanna run here is indom teams with jackal links, as nayuta will directly counter those

[tropic summit]

if no noah available then slow cindy is an option here, as it's helmT main B3

blanc midhara biscuit cindy rumani

might wanna speed it up tho as there is a lot of AoE involved, safer probably with:

blanc helmT biscuit cindy rumani

[oak smelt]

Feels like blanc indom with SWHA or Lib is still my best option for now

[tropic summit]

helmt flexable with swha in case

[tropic summit]

for this matchup?

[oak smelt]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

so jackaless blanc indom

a bit risky but could work as long as you're aware your indom target lives nayuta B2, which happens before blanc B2

[shell hazel]

Rail I got Broccoli after 120 pulls

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[oak smelt]

That is definitely viable, from this recording that nayuta first hit only comes down after my SWHA bursting

[shell hazel]

left

[tropic summit]

wait you already got her

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

i thought you were gonna be a pleb like me and wait a bit

[glad meteor]

Hippos not noob

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-toilet-restroom-gif-14343205956687655242

[shell hazel]

wait for what? broccoli is here

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-21792

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

I got the 4 free tickets of the 5 they give out

[tropic summit]

oooh you already used those

[shell hazel]

I got tang tang and rossi on the way

I already had tang tang so lol

[tropic summit]

fk it i'm smartworking gonna "multitask"

[shell hazel]

but I didn't have rossi, for like 120 pulls I think getting all 3 is good

[tropic summit]

dafuq you lucked out hard there

too bad you'll quit arknight for NTE soon

did you try the other game btw?

[shell hazel]

that was where I named my cat

my take so far on that is actually kind of like how "anime" it feels, but I dunno how much longevity I'd have with it

I won't drop endfield for NTE I don't think, I'd do both

[shell hazel]

I think given I didn't have rossi that is true, and that tang tang is still good, no normal 6 *'s that get trashed later basically

I need rossi wep right?

well nvm got 2 of them at once

[tropic summit]

hippo on a roll

[tropic summit]

every character in the game so far benefits hard from their signature

i'm running her with 5* for now because the game doesn't really need hard min/maxing for now

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/ummm-gif-1105306683440534892

[shell hazel]

we save for mi fu now then prob!

ships visited @leaden canyon @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-rich-20

[tropic summit]

i'm saving for that white haired girl that appeared briefly during the first part of the story

i've a feeling it will be skadi in endfield form

although she could be someone else

or maybe considering we got Chen, this is Talulah

the horns are slightly different

[swift mango]

if it's talulah clone then good luck wait. Arknight dev love to lock her for emergency that never happen.

[ivory mountain]

anyone willing to help me vote on two different teams?

Majority of people are voting for kotori, but I've been burned by last minute upsets...

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

put them in this format when possible, makes it easier for ppl to see

kotori is attacking ye?

@swift mango @gaunt pulsar feels similar to what we saw with hime yesterday?

wonder if the moran noise swha ada noah can actually out trade a bayT on biscuit

[gaunt pulsar]

t1 - right side on better dr+advantage of getting tug of war so even less dmg received, left on ada lifesteal but protection lasts only 3s i'm leaning towards better invested Julia dude
t2 - i really need to know how good Kotori absolute is that invest and 137k vesti looks kinda awful, + blanc is out the way
t3 - believing more in Julia dude because way better absolute
t4 - down to if maiden gets indom or not, left side is quite slow though, they very much might lose both label and maiden when nayuta lands her burst if it's 1 shot
t5 - noise buffed noah vs rh buffed nayu and lapt feel like right side wins

[tropic summit]

ye agree with mostly everything, for the label and xmaiden i think both will survive nayuta

[ivory mountain]

Yeah that makes more sense format

[tropic summit]

i'm leaning for right side to win

just my 50 cents

let's wait for @swift mango opinion aswell

[ivory mountain]

Cause yeah right side has more Combat Power

[tropic summit]

not just combat power, but the matchups are in right side favour on 3 out of 5

[ivory mountain]

I feel people are just looking at commander level that's why kotori is ahead

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[gaunt pulsar]

match 4 even assuming left side is on 11% team wide i dont see them winning, because we betting between either maiden staying alive but then they lose label and ability to burst at all, or maiden and lib dying and label getting bisc stack

[tropic summit]

xmaiden team is attacking, meaning enemy SRs will shoot p1

xmaiden and label will be full HP when nayuta B2 lands

assuming lib dies, and it's very likely to their p2 splash, it's going to pick xmaiden or biscuit or label for indom

[gaunt pulsar]

yea but they lose 1 stack on blanc, and 2nd one have to go either to label or maiden, and if label dead - they cannot burst, if maiden dead - they cant kill

[tropic summit]

hmm i see

in that case would be right side win

[leaden canyon]

I visited both of yours

[shell hazel]

you getting Broccoli?

[leaden canyon]

Ehh probably not, I already have 3 damage carries

still trying to finish building other teams lol

[shell hazel]

fair, I was waiting for broccoli all this time so I got her

yeah lot of building to be done here

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel just played her demo

she looks pretty insane

[leaden canyon]

I'm still trying to finish rossi team and then I'll build last rite team

[tropic summit]

and my elec team is essentially already built

[shell hazel]

yeah I need to gear mine up

[tropic summit]

think she's gonna be a good addition

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-friends-youknowyouwantto-tease-gif-7904320

[tropic summit]

definitely will get her

[leaden canyon]

but so far there isn't a need for multiple teams so I'm just kinda sitting on 75k currency

[shell hazel]

yeah, I'm collecting mode atm lol

[leaden canyon]

I'm gonna laugh of this free 10 pull gives me her

that happened with a few banners now

[shell hazel]

yeah, other thing for me is the free pulls are good, and free 10 on next

my pity is basically full reset again though

but I like keeping the cheap 5 tickets going too

I won't be going for dupes here, saving mode activated

[tropic summit]

actual f2p

you returned to your roots

[shell hazel]

my spending in these types of games (like HSR) is usually more on daily gems/battle pass level

[tropic summit]

tbf the game doesn't motivate spending, there's no reason to actually min/max a unit at all

it's both a good and a bad thing, but mostly good

[shell hazel]

I find the daily gems reasonable return for minimal cost

and the pass is fairly good value for what the cost is I think, but don't need it every time

but yeah could totally f2p this one if you wanted to so far

[tropic summit]

yeah the game doesn't have any "difficult" content that pushes units to the limit to warrant investing in them

[leaden canyon]

do I have a chance against whale in rookie

[tropic summit]

unlike hoyo games, especially HSR

[tropic summit]

biscuitless noah, you already know what to run

[shell hazel]

even if it does a bit, as long as you can clear most events/rewards and the story content is doable you don't need to min/max

[tropic summit]

blanc vestiTU rh/ada biscuit jackal

[shell hazel]

that cp deficit looks kind of extreme though

[tropic summit]

ye it's gonna need to cope really hard

[placid bloom]

I think you get solo'd by Moran

[leaden canyon]

a bit better cp wise

[tropic summit]

he will, moran on deficit is a war crime

[shell hazel]

31.5% deficit

[leaden canyon]

[tropic summit]

32%ish deficit probably no chance but worth a shot for science

64% reduced stats

[shell hazel]

did you see kricoun vid? we almost had zanta

[tropic summit]

define "almost" but ye i saw it

[shell hazel]

we killed 1/5 nikkes

[leaden canyon]

nah I already struggled again a version of this from somebody else at 31 instead of 36

Moran really is a raid boss

I could kill it but this is worse

[shell hazel]

the level 1 nikkes

[leaden canyon]

but yeah I can science it

[shell hazel]

I skipped gilberta wep but it's coming back around

though I feel as a support she doesn't really need it as much as the main carry dps

[leaden canyon]

I tried for her weapon but didn't get it

I'll get it this time

[shell hazel]

I could go for it but it may ruin my chances on future weps a bit

if it takes the full 80 especially

[leaden canyon]

rossi weapon was the only one I didn't hard pity on weapon

every weapon has been hard pitty

Insane

[shell hazel]

my wep luck been OK, some on 40/50 not going to hard pity yet

I got 2 x rossi wep in 1st 10 pull that was by far my luckiest one

got sigs for last rite, tang tang, rossi, broccoli, won't count ardelia as we all got that, think that is all of them

[leaden canyon]

my rossi was also 1st 10 pull lol

first 10 pull on her banner I got her too, and then I tried 2 more multi just to get to 30 pulls for the free 10 pull and got another copy of her

[shell hazel]

I have enough arsenal tickets for 50 ish wep pulls on glberta one if I wanted to try it

I said to rail earlier I had to pity broccoli

but on the way to 120 I got tang tang dupe, rossi (new) and then broccoli on final pull lol

[tropic summit]

hippo lucked out

actually worked out well for the pity

[shell hazel]

was luckier than my usual anyway

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't bother for a support weapon imo

[shell hazel]

only shame I couldn't sync the 60-70 pity to it

[tropic summit]

get broccoli's weapon instead

[shell hazel]

I got it already

[tropic summit]

eh then you're set

[shell hazel]

so it's for next unit I have wep pulls

mi fu or w/e else I want to get

[ivory mountain]

Ok
i'm trusting you guys

[swift mango]

Team 4-5 is were investment and RNG happened.

Team 4, Blanc could misindom on biscuit.

I have won and lose, with Nayuta on Team 5 scenario, before, it's just a matter of Noah can burst or not. But Noah team probably win here because he is whale. So you are probably right.

[tropic summit]

reasonable, thanks

[raven plover]

nayu team 4 prolly 1 shot label

[tropic summit]

you've a lot of expectations from nayuta to 1shot a full HP unit

[ivory mountain]

keep in mind guys
i have literally never gotten the frame for getting it all right
so i have a lot riding on this

[tropic summit]

then again if label is OL-less that's a different story

[tropic summit]

3 people for now thinking it's a right win, if anything
we've been wrong before cuz invest, research and cores can sometimes make funny things happen, let alone crit RNG

always take it with a grain of salt

[gaunt pulsar]

betting on 5:0 for right 🍿

[tropic summit]

ima go with a 2-3 or 1-4

[ivory mountain]

i actually researched myself from the past battles in the list
so i had a hunch it was right

[swift mango]

And well, I lost once when Noah died too, Noise healing could override Nayuta splash dmg. So team 5 should win.

[tropic summit]

ye i also think noah can live

i've seen nayuta critting stuff to death from near full hp aswell although, so anything really could happen

but i generally always assume non crit scenarios

[raven plover]

would be funny if left win 123

[scarlet adder]

what about this one, top defends, bottom attacks. R3 bottom might be more invested

[swift mango]

Nayuta needs to kill both Noah and Noise at least with her nuke. Otherwise, they won't have the time to kill Libby before the nuke landed.

[tropic summit]

ah yes, i feel this one

everytime i run SG my SG are shooting p1 or p5 morans

always.

[hollow lagoon]

@glad meteor

[tropic summit]

wut about this, except T3 that is gonna be wild

[swift mango]

Tell me the result in 3 hours, thanks

[swift mango]

Top should win t3 because more core Rumani split tank.

[swift mango]

Oh wait, it's bottom more core no? Bottom is baron

Just vote for barom then

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

more invested lib on left and higher core rumani

i guess left has better chances

so probably this:

damn, imagine being diffed by a high core rumani

[swift mango]

Rumani splitting tank to p5 is safer to me in this case but Baron has higher core overall.

[swift mango]

Would be funny if Label lost the shield to Soline and Scarlet just wipe Label.

[glad meteor]

662

[tropic summit]

💳

[hollow lagoon]

prob a lot earlier if isabel arcana was invested

[swift mango]

Finally opened thy boxes.

[glad meteor]

Pretty equal in terms of step

Usually t5 is smol, and t1 is giga

[swift mango]

2 more hours to result.

[tropic summit]

what result? you didn't know you already won?

you've the larger ⚔️

[glad meteor]

Makes sense now

Sasuga rail

[tropic summit]

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[late tiger]

Anyone in the DPB champions arena group?
I need to know who will win

[oak hatch]

Just post the pictures of both side teams

[late tiger]

ok

[late tiger]

who will win

Personally, i think dpb will lose

[oak hatch]

Saw the first 3 teams and yeah he already lost it

Likely the vesti vs cindy one lose also

[umbral belfry]

nah that one can win

but it's still gg for dpb anyway

[late tiger]

The first one is random, depending on if soda stuns the right one, but scarlet has the highest atk so helm will one shot if jackal link doesnt give faster burst

[late tiger]

U think dpb will win?

[umbral belfry]

label instantly denies dpb's t1

[oak hatch]

How can that one win? Even if Rosa gets her burst off, she wouldn’t be able to kill anything

[umbral belfry]

no, I think he loses

[late tiger]

Ahh ok great

I finally managed to predict all losses and want the achievement for losing the last one too

[umbral belfry]

rosa strips link
vesti (should) take out p1-p3
rosa goes off due to 2 kills

and from there it's gg

[oak hatch]

Ok wait I’m tripping I saw a biscuit somehow

[umbral belfry]

if there was a bisc I'd agree with you

maybe MAAAYBEEE if noise bursts he can win but eh

[oak hatch]

So unusual seeing cindy with blanc

[umbral belfry]

[late tiger]

I saw that many times with blanc, but when i tried it did not work for me

[oak hatch]

The slow cindy one?

The win rate of it is pretty bad now

[late tiger]

Ye, especially since vesti has true dmg and the others buff it

If cindy manages to burst then he wins, but i doubt with rosa

[umbral belfry]

[oak hatch]

Yeah should be loss, but first 3 teams are very hard counters against dpb so victory for other side should be secured

[umbral belfry]

if there was no rosa to cut link that'd be different

it's also possible for dpb to lose 4 but he'd have to be EXTREMELY unlucky with soda stunning nayu

[oak hatch]

Yeah I won that matchup before

Soda stun nayuta and rh

[umbral belfry]

same thanks soda

[late tiger]

So t5 dpb wins
T4 is random, because soda and centi is fully treasured, which gives more burst gen for dpb
T3 is loss for dpb cuz lib has slow burst, not instant noah will block it and then snow will charge burst and kill attackers
T2 rosa should strip bay protection, if not prior already and rosa already kills snow
T1 idk cuz random soda

[umbral belfry]

t1 is a loss regardless bc of label. even if soda stuns nayu

[late tiger]

How does label work there?

[umbral belfry]

label ruins elec units for 5 secs. meaning scar nuke is gonna hit like a wet noodle