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I guess the more healers for the white vapuse regen the better
Nayuta and helm at the same time is insane
but trying is allowed 
Unironically one of my favorite characters, and super hot as well

I see szilard in maincord

Based
New unit could be a spot on a moran/helm team in champions I guess
Snow Crane looks nice, but she doesn't hit that "I need her now" mark for me with her shooting pose. Might maybe do one 10 pull but that's it, then just wait for wishlist hit down the line.
did snow crane pay you to say this?
prob paid (in bed)
damn 
Good to read all this analysis about Snow Crane. Being 100% F2P, I gotta save those special recruit tickets anyways. Hopefully Leviathan (if the rumors are correct and she ends up being chosen) will be worthy of them.
Is Snow crane free unit? Otherwise it's on Sora level of bad. At least Sora give more burst gen,.. Well Snow crane does give some max hp and off burst healing though but.... yeah.
just use Soline
Soline vanilla or Soline Frost Ticket?
You could probably put her in Moran+biscuit+Midhara kind of team. But you could also just use something like Poli.
Ahá! The one and only. At least I have that one. I don't have the OG Soline yet. 🙂
my poli team with moran/helm keep losing lol
does pierce have any effect in pvp? intuitively seems like no but been a while since i read up on the mechanics
no. aside from getting buff by pierce dmg buffer
She is a defender with zero self dmg/atk buff that pierce just came out of nowhere like the intern just pick hit nose and throw it to a skill lotto
is it worth to reset scarlet now if not playing CA?
You can reset her if you're not attacking in SP A 
scar still good in atk and certain defence
Certain 
Thanks! Although I would have obviously voted for Red Hood, but she has already won once, let other girls get their opportunity xD
Scarlet is still very useful when Attacking
indom scarlet still needed to be countered same as before.
I voted for Trina. Her design is truly unique.

Best ending right at the start of the game
@umbral crown play it for the yellow books you could hit skip on everything and finished in an hour anyway.
She would have won again ofc 
My Baby red hair on top everyday
You know, that might actually be true lel

One of the most liked characters in the whole game, still is
the new unit is just a pve healer?
it doesn't look good for pvp unless have some hidden bugs to use with nayuta or moran
Best team against Noah, Label, Snow Whtite:HA, Helm, Cindrella?
Remember in past got advice to set team with Vesti but I don't remember team comp. Upgrade her so maybe I can try to win this time
if a team have only 1 unit of x burst type and you can kill it before burst chain/cast is a valid option for a counter, it looks like there is nly 1 b2 in a weak position as p1
i honestly haven't used scarlet in attacking for a long time
so many good b3s nowadays that can wipe
stalls or semi stall templates are nayuta p1, linked b3 (p1)+jackal on the team, defender (p1)+biscuit on the team and fill with the units you want to kill p1 or p2
is there a particular defence or use case that requires scarlet specifically on attack? im not up to date with all the newest ideas
traditional scar teams + Soda
she's trash
just that? i mean that's rarely seen as a defence nowadays coz of label
at least we can saver gems
yea
can you explain please? sorry a bit nub with scar
but for the last 2 years scar/bay is one of my favorite teams
normal scar team, if the enemy feed you can just start your burst chain around 1RL, if the feed is not enough you will burst at your normal speed (with cs you go faster) you get a 1.7 scar team against any 2RL~3RL comp
and label is just good against scar or a bit against rosanna, you just use a different element
I use Trina and Scar too in SP Arena for attacks. Works wonders. 🙂
i'm trying to understand why to keep scar on attack mainly. scar usually cant deny like a 2RL noah or something right? and if you run soda, you run a high chance of insuff damage on a lot of teams
pvp have not changed for many years, the last "change" was cindy bug that doubled her dmg (current cindy nuke) after that you can't defend because people already have enough units you beat all the teams, before you had to build at least2 niche units to get more options for ATK
in generic teams works, but you can just use different units if you want to get a win
there are many different ways to beat the same team and the easiest options always are indom and stall/nuke, vesti can just kill pre-burst
ok thanks
I'm also learning the ropes being a new player and all, and understood a Defense Scarlet team will mostly likely be dodged by opponents because it is that fast. Still, that doesn't stop me from adding that team, seeing I do not have such a wide variety of Nikkes to work different compositions.
yeah for newer players it makes sense to use whatever you have
i'm just being forced to pinch for skill books now and therefore scar is on the chopping block
she's definitely not bad or anything
Can definately see where you are coming from. My skill books have long dried out and I depend on daily Simulation Room rewards in order to progress slowly. So we gotta choose our units carefully.
lower sync have different value for some units, the HP increase at higher lvl change a lot how some match go
Curiously, I've been advancing more in this game through PVP pickings rather than focusing on PVE units instead. The SP Arena gains are solid, and you end up using the same units in Campaign anyways
you tank more at higher sync
yes actually this was my biggest problem in my scar experience
that is because some of the lastest units have better pve value, before it was too niche to use the same unit in both modes
the best you can do is to get your campaign team, 1 dps for each element and push campaign
the sync lvl you get there will help later in pvp
you can still play both modes in a competitive way, but you will have to think how to use your resources
Oh, I see. Yeah. I try to be present in this thread everyday, do my homework, and stay on top of the meta schedule in order to carefully choose who to buff or not. If I wasn't here, I'd probably be lost investing in a lot of low-end Nikkes...
you f2p?
I am. 100%. 🙂
Got 30k gems and 65 special vouchers saved for the anniversary
Not a lot, I know, but I'm trying.
good luck and have fun - dont get distracted too much by whale strats would be my advice haha
Till yesterday I was still on the fence regarding Snow Crane, praying she'd be a RL unit, but not only she proved to be an SR, but all her kit proved to be disastrous, so... here comes some 20 extra vouchers to stock for later. 😉
All thanks to you guys. The analysis here are great.
yeah guys here in discord are generally great. not counting me ofc, i just come to ask pvp questions haha
Same here. 😄
You'll see me again later as well. I'll probably ask the professionals for another round of criticism regarding my SP Arena 3 team composition. Its been over 2 weeks since my last polish. Its time to update. 🙂
probably the best pve team is moranT/crown/ssrapi/helmT/swha, you have 3 (5) "pvp" units if you know how to use them
at the early stage, sync is almost everything imo - if you're like a few chapters ahead of your rivals in campaign, you'll outlevel most dolphins
pve matters a lot a lot compared to comps early game
I'm sync 255 and still no Crown or Noah in sight. 🤡
thats true
for pve or pvp? i think is fine but not that important around that sync, you can still use the units you want and win thanks to the cp of your team, for pve you have other b2 options, just need a buffer, but probably moranT+ssrapi and swha are more important for pve
But hey, on the other hand... I somehow had a rush of luck last month which guaranteed me 5 Moran dupes in less than 2 weeks. Suddenly I went to zero to Core +1. That probably won't happen again in this lifetime. XD
you have more mran dupes than me as day 1 player xd
That's a lot of dupes in a short amount of time, what is your recruitment count so far in the challenge tab?
2nd best ending 
@umbral crown said I stole all of you guys's Morans at once. XD I don't know what happened. But now I have a +1 Core moran with no Favourite item yet. Slowly sending dispatch missions to prepare her.
It was the peeping bad ending 
Lol, i find that the "bad endings" are so much more entertaining and funny than the vanilla endings
Regarding PvE, I'm trodding through campaign 27 right now, and maaan its rough... those flying pills coated with blue shields are giving me real headaches because I got no Crown
are those the dudes that only take 1 damage until shield is broken? just mass MG them or send someone like blanc in
Nono, those are easy to deal with. Those are X-Wing shaped units. The ones I'm referring are really "pill-shaped" and coated with a complete blue sphere wich takes no damage (countless "Immune" words written in gray). They come from above, float near the other kamikaze ships, then after a while, fly towards you and blow up. My Nemesis at the moment. 🙂
those can only be destroyed by the specific element they are weak to?
we have hit count shields and elemental shields
Exactly. I can handle Hit Count shields.
other enemies have really high DEF so the atk/def means less dmg
So its Elemental then. Alright. I'll pay attention to the information provided prior to the battle and adapt. Thanks to Nesso and Aneth for the tips.
the bad endings are the actual endings
Tested here with (surprise surprise) Scarlet and Trina on the same group, and the mission slided like butter. Easy pizzy. 🙂 So "Electric" did the trick, yay.
she punishes a lot of comps still when used on attack, i'd keep her around
I did skip all but did not work so i just left it as it is

Got Midhara today, is she any good now? I don't see her used much in CA either lately
can someone help me understand what i might be missing in pvp rookie arena. There is a player I beat easily every time while only having 1 nikke die but then he seems to be able to beat me also. my attack team is same as defense as just trying to use highest cp.
Check stage by stage and repeat the stage for all options (or at least get the paths and the items, they are grayed out if you didn't get them and colored after you got them).
It takes at most 2 hours if you spend time to check the endings. (Endings are voiced)
And 1 hour or less if you don't read at all and have good enough loading speed.
rookie defense is meant to be unwinnable, unless you're gapping the opponent or he simply uses the wrong counters
the same is applied to sp arena, albeit it requires a bit more knowledge and overall invest on the opponents
your best bet at trying to win rookie def is to run consistently difficult defenses, those are generally variants of 2RL stalls/early aggresion/indom
can refer to these to get ideas, try regularly changing them up:
#pvp-arena message
predictable 
but really... sugar... afterall this time? you're a loyal one 
Thanks for info, will try out some different options but got so many nikke to buff it hard to decide where i want to focus
SSS SS and S rank are your best candidates
make sure SSS and SS are all built and you'll have most cards needed
RH, siren, soda, soline, bay, xmaiden, ada will situationally also help you
while enabling more defense and attack options
moranT, jackal, noah, biscuit, blanc, helmT, SWHA, vestiTU are all must've
start with those if anything
nayuta, liberalio, cindy and privT will come along regardless because you'll need them for pve (same will apply to anchorIM, RH, siren)
You stole my moran?

none of them will probably win but i'm gonna do my part
Me when bready
Siren ❤️
Yeh thankfully like you said, some of them i already fully built for pve (helmT and SWHA). Vesti TU and Moran T nearly done. been wanting to build jackal and biscuit for a while but cant justify pvp only nikke when only on ch32 and stuck on all towers but pilgrim
well campaign and pve takes priority, as you need to progress in synchro as much as possible
once you've leeway, you can invest in pvp core units for those extra gems biweekly
if you're already scoring between ch3-ch6 range you're good, ch6-ch10 is ok, dia1 should be your bare minimun target
was holding ch7 until server reshuffle and competition seemed to get lot harder. now dia1 requires me to pick targets carefully and time my uses.
you're in an acceptable range if anything, make sure you don't slack on HM pushing and try to run meta comps, once you can stabilize your def, holding ch ranks will be far easier
HM pushing?
hard mode
hitting CD hard checkpoints is a must to keep up with synchro
there's probably an updated table somewhere, if you ask in #questions someone probably can provide it to you
essentially, you've certain thresholds you should be meeting based on your synchro, if you're hitting those, you're "keeping up" with competition
Smh, just full clear hardmode and then you dont have to worry abt it
slacking instead will slowly make you lose out on synchro, which can get you gated out from higher ranks in pvp
hmm never really considered that, I push all content as much as i can but often horde my resources instead of using them when i get stuck probs got 1000s of orb crates I should use to help push more.
you should open your boxes if they allow you to reach the next threshold, then you can sit there until new chapter release and min/max that way resource income

Bricked
question chat can help you on deciding if you can push or not, based on your campain stage and synchro
imo refer to #questions and find out asap if you should be pushing or waiting
that way you can salvage some synchro if you're not matching your expected progression
i think it 241 just now
and just looked, can got 257 if use inventory crates
Tuen open all
@abstract bloom before opening ask in #questions providing your current stage and synchro
there's also new chapters soon
you generally want to open AFTER clearing normal chapters first
unless you're stuck already in normal mode
yeh main thing that slowed me is being lazy building ein (my only ele dps) and need her for chapter boss. seems like i need to lock in and focus lol
pvp for the most part is a battle of progression, keep progressing and you'll have natural CP advantage over time
I wish I could hoard boxes
with CP you can gate opponents to a certain degree
afterward it's a matter of invest and knowledge check
work on your progression and you'll clear most obstacles
thanks again for all the info, time to go eat dinner 🙂
you can it's just that you don't do it 

No id fall behind my whales
you'll fall behind regardless, by saving up you can mitigate it
but well up to you at the end of the day
i've seen my whel going from behind of me of 10-20 synchro to ahead of me of 80

fun shiet
wonder what synchro he has nowdays
oh i actually caught up a bit
642 vs my potential 592 
although he may be savin' boxeroni too

She’s can help win some matches here and there in slow cindy but pretty unreliable, the one time I ran her I lost all the matches besides one

sir you appear to have a 🐳 issue
Rail almost 601


@fair pivot even if she's only used in slow Cindy teams, it's a good idea to build her anyway, since she's a solid PvE Nikke
i hate that series
well... not hate, i find it boring
what anime is it?
Mashle
even if it is comedy i hate when they try too hard to make a joke
is like harry potter+ one punch man...
there were a couple of manga/novel with the same story before that, but only this got popular
we all in agreement, right?
be sure ✅
the problem with cecil is that she is like a bland pick
johan+cecil count as the same
yeah, I looked at the artwork, and that's the first impression that I got
honestly, this year, Burningum and Johan have been killing it
johan is the same as cecil in the eden arc
those count as enemies/rapture or npc?
the thing about syuen is that i don't remember if the things she did were before last year popularity poll or after
no sixo art?
oh apparently list reseted already, counts as a new day in KR I guess 
time zones are a thing
but not sure why they don't do that with the daily reset, easier for all the player base
I wouldn’t have built her if it wasn’t for PvP but that’s just me since I don’t invest in pve directly
@tropic summit Blanc is top 19
we working not hard enough
that doesn't look like Jien or Cecil or Levi or Shifty, hard pass 
better not have hopes for blanc, her time to shine was long time ago, gonna be hard to get her to win in this year
Technically ||she was Shifty at one point|| 
i'll still give her at least 1 vote 
mihara have more teams, and work as"counter" for others, the thing is that you already have many atk tools; really good pve unit
For ca she’s already pretty mid with slow cindy and that’s her best performing team archetype, idk what other teams will match it.

simp 
the pretty lady
I did
@tropic summit Sensei! I humbly ask your guidance on beating this enemy comp in Rookie 
Using helm version of the team and outstalling mbe
Its not easy to beat because moran will live and 1v5 any slow comp
Cindy base skin already good tho would have preferred a skin for sw
Had my internet die and eat an attempt trying some Cindy nonsense, so I don't know what that lost to 
Lost to moran
slap this bad boi
blanc vigor
lib tempering
crown any
rapunzel vigor
biscuit vigor
Well that's the thing. I don't have an intuition for what lost or won to what without actually seeing the match
need 2152k+ CP btw
it doesn't matter for cindy fans, they will bot again
the weird thing is that siren+lib are in the top 5 and i'm sure they shared the same fanbase
Its just how moran is
arcana got a 3 weeks event, so... there you have SU favoritism
shwa is meta, should be top1 or 2
Snow has so many alts alr and tbh shes not really a waifu type
we'll have to settle with cindy anyway, looks like a lot of ppl want their revenge on losing to RRH last year
but most of cindy votes are from bots or alts account
ye ofc, it's a bot war to begin with
and it's china as always pulling this shiet anyway
they love doing that, it's in their blood
I trusted the process
thing is ppl should accept cindy lost to RRH and just move on, but they're too salty
so now they'll push for cindy afterall
maybe next year we can actually get a better contest, cuz ppl will be done with RRH and cindy
Its time
ssrapi and cindy bot war last year
only for ssrapi to get a sh-t costume
I won, but I didn't even realise you put the cubes
Lib died but ressed by Rapu and got the indom
i need more shojo ai
ye the cubes are just to ensure indom priority, in general lib will still be lowest cuz they're all utilities
rerun next month
i like that team cuz there's so much synergy and you got ress if lib dies to pokes
This sounds like the lore for next chaps
blanc counters moran
crown synergy with blanc and rapunzel
p1 and p3 invulnerable forever
lib is babysitted to stay alive and then slow indommed
biscuit and rapunzel are unlikely to die to anything pre 4RL (against that team)
Cheers anyway, I'm gonna clap him with these and then hit others instead in coming days. Was just salty that I didn't realise my old team wasn't high enough to win with deficit advantage
i hope lib is dead dead
why
because is hate lib
don't get used to win with deficit imo, you gonna get rusty
Nikke can live with just their brain 
as a character and unit

Meh it's Rookie, don't give a damn 
What did she do to you
If this was SP match ups I would be more focused
hmm why character? she actually gone through a growth arc, albeit still immature and brainwashed
gets rusty
Yeah, 5 nikke that idc if they get skins. Yippee. So excited.
libby actually listened to us and tried using her head and reasoning, you've to understand she knew no better and only followed due to loyalty and brainwashing, the fact we actually got through her is amazing
then she actually tried holding a conversation and realized that she can actually communicate with humans
levi instead i'd slap her butt so much for taking years to realize she could trust us 
water power for a wind unit, solo raid event was her mother (queen) the queen never talked to her because the bubble (probably) all is in her head...yeah
the unit i can agree, very misleading, but the character up so far was ok imo
there's growth and there's actual legit reasoning behind her actions
she also showed that unlike the queen she can communicate and change
at the end of the day she's a pawn that needs to be helped, poor grill brainwashed to hell
next chapter is end game... again
if you're given the tools to fight back, informed and educated and still refuse to take the right way it's one thing
lib was never given enough information, when we finally did, she acted on that, and got backstabbed right after
better get ready 
april's fool video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b16TF5LNi6k @lone sequoia
Join Goddess of Victory: Nikke's game director, Yoo Hyung-Suk, for a look at this year's April Fools celebration with the Goddess of Victory: Nikke World and the game's "10-year Roadmap," which details plans to transform the sci-fi shooter into a 3D experience, including full open-world exploration.
#ign #gaming
I'm going to be honest I also don't really care of Lib either, but to me she is just meh, instead of actually hating her.
she's a victim, i'd at least help her out, because she's being used
ucl, i will watch it at HT
girl doesn't know anything better than being a tool and a weapon
she learned how to communicate with us
the least we could do is give her info and let her grow
that's what i'd do anyway 
let her grow a body
I like mature characters, in appearance and personality
doujin artist will like that
we talking about the character, not judging her appearence that's based on personal preference 
I was talking in general

i know who you voting for

Is the Npc vote open yet?
hansel and gretel in NPC section feels so wrong
Had to do it fam 
i dont think they specifically mean that they will stay npc forever, just happen to be in that category rn 

who did you vote for NPC 

Ziz cutie too, but Behe clears 
can only vote 1 NPC sadly 
who did @shell hazel vote on 
I shall confirm but it's a team effort with some friends
idk but i got a alt so it is what it is
@tropic summit miranda did not get bigboi votes but we know Zant voted for product23
🍌
Nikke moving from Unity to Unreal Engine


what 'bout your 5 choices? 
we had power of friendship choices
oh so same as zant
Marciana and Crown were mine own
wow, man of culture, sasuga 
I mean I was happy with them all anyway 🙂
btw did you release Gilberta yet? I need to jump back onto AKE

doing my dailies right this moment
I need to dive in shortly!
visit my ship if you can sir I shall visit yours and see if you been treating Gilberta better

visiting ships
@shell hazel nice wallpaperoni
Hello, i would like to ask for some suggestions/assistance on how i can improve/change my defense team 
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTY4Mjg2MzUyNzA2MzM5MTE3NTE%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTY4Mjg2MzUyNzA2MzM5MTE3NTE%3D
Are you by any chance Swedish?
that i am x)
your name or your gamer tag made me laugh xD
you're welcome x)
yeah, im not suprised by that, i feel like its a very messy team x)
T1 is too weak
T2 is okish but could be better
T3 is too strong and will be skipped
you'll want to split helmT and SWHA and fix T1
trina/xmaiden/ada are interchangable if you need to balance CP
keep 3 B3s in the indom team to mitigate rosanna
(ada or xmaiden)
liberalio in p5 should have more hp than vestiTU, so ensure you put vigor on her if needed
keep in mind with this setup you're not running noah, but you could sub bay for her
you can also use Centi or XMaiden instead of Liberalio in T2
also don't use noah p1 and most importantly don't run her unprotected
okay Noted
i'll try to switch up to that then!
he can't, they're way lower in CP
oh good to know!
he needs to balance CP x speed x threat
rip, didn't see his CPs
Hello, I want to update my SP Arena teams. Would like some help please.
ideally he should push CP on the utilities asap either way
my problem tho is that ada is lower hp then vesti
but i need to fix doll on her
linked units are vestiTU and lib
oh
use Vigor on Ada
ada HP at that point is nearly irrelevant
i thought Blancs burst went to lowest hp
which is the linked units
p1 p2 and p5 will be taking damage, p3 can only take dmg if emilia/vestiTU are ran
if you're unsure what Nikkes are linked, you can check that in Shooting Range
yus! just isnt so knowledged about the positionings x) how they work
@oak citrus 
hallo 
WAIT
you are the same on in my arena group
yes


lmao finally the guy below me got attacked instead of me
The dude failed to beat me like 3 days in a row
SP arena
- nayuta centi helmT RH emilia
- moranT noah biscuit swha laplaceT
- jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc drakeT
you are the first one here from our group that i see in 8 month, well one was, but he dropped the game few month ago
you were even there yapping last time i was here asking for help as well, but it didnt click at the time 

Thank you
Time to change my name again

recruiting more cultists to the cause
i was thinking the same
Cultist actually filled
Wasn’t expecting
Try to fill the casual one now
they all wanted a chance to play with the zant
They wanted his 🍌
There we go, nero got last ol item finally. 4 lines of atk, 4 lines of emmental damage. Rest is like, charge speed or def o such 😄
finally
don't - I will get confused 
@tropic summit im at 2 bil in spa now
you're a big boi
I remember when you said that Cindy shield lowers burst gen so I put her in front.
It’s the opposite 
in his scenario might be true
no RL's on enemy side, just lib shooting p1, if she does, not sure
if she shoots cindy then yea, lowers, also helm's a little
Yeah. When Nayuta was in the front, the enemy just had enough burst gen to burst a little bit faster than me and nuke my team.
When Cindy is in the front, it's almost a win.
be mindful in the future that it only works when they dont have RL's 
If anything their burst gen stays the same, I don’t think it lowers?
Yup. This team is only exclusive to non RL teams.
was helm's and lib shooting cindy? i've never tested it like that
Haven't really checked.
It could've been a fluke or confirmation bias, that's why I'm doing more attempts to confirm if the results stays the same.
Lemme record.
I don't think they did.
Idk what made the difference between Nayuta P1 resulting in a loss and Cindy P1 that results in a win.
they do, all rl's shooting her, so helm loses 2.8% energy from her s2 per shot, total 5,6% and lib loses 14% energy to the team
And that's enough to slow them down so the nuke comes late?
seems to be, they are on b1 when you are on ~b2
Noice!!
Does Scar and Cindy have the same cast speed? Or is Scarlet faster?
cindy does 1 hit as fast as scar, but 9 more hits come later, so she at best kills 1 target as fast as scar 
yes
How many subsequent hits per frame?
Do all 9 hits come simultaneously after or do each have delays as well?
Why do they lose energy by hitting cindy?
Their extra effects dont proc
This team is so cursed, I can't get past the first stage
Thars disgusting
the new Overclock infinite is something else
they hit decoy and it doesn't counts as hitting target so their additional hits do not happen, 1 for helm, 5 for lib
same behavior when your cindy on def on p5 and enemy attack you with lib, you make them slower
Hello looking for some help with SP arena I have no idea what to do for pvp any help would be appreciated thanks.
They really want you to wait for the 3.5 anni units.
that seems to be the case yeah
Even at 25, it's cancer without Legacy Buffs.
The Water OC got me to OC 30 without buffs.
SWHA rules.

waos
imagine that on vesti
Dang I thought the decoys counted as targets too, p1 cindy have some good uses too then
I just beat this thing in 27 without a problem, it's the infinite one that's really difficult
Where do i get pvp team ideas? i got biscuit fully overloaded today but i dont have a clue who to replace her with in spa
Only works if enemy team has no RLs.
if the requirement was 2 Sniper Rifles instead of 2 Rocket Launchers, it would have been somewhat easier to teambuild
Liter/Bunny Ade/Bunny Milk/Red Hood/Summer Helm
they do, but not in that scenario where effect requires you to land a full charge shot, proc for such skills just doesn't happen at all
RL's still gonna be faster if they land a shot because it's 1 extra hit that decoy receives, RL's also gonna skip her and hit p3 too 
it's really only useable on def on p5 and on attack where you know that enemy doesn't have RL's
or something like that
Wait 2 weeks for next rotation.
RL
SR
AR
RL
SR
AR
That's the whole rotation for this season.
Holy shit 2 AR. Prepare your Labels and S.Helms
@tropic summit #1153279507210444851 message
that doesn't seem too bad either
but Liter is way better than Label
so SR seems to be the easier one
I visited you and @leaden canyon if you need to use my assists 🙂
and it ofc depends if Shift Up releases Anis or not
thanks for visiting my ship today 
Rosy
I may have to sac my 50% atk Vesti to do 1-rock rerolls and get line 3s
That’s what I did on Scar… I had good stats but reset them by 1-rock rerolls for great line 3 slots
I visited you and rail today
Like every day
still, having 50k atk scar and 50 atk vesti is indeed a thing
my only 50+ unit is libe
like 54 atk or so but low ele
Where do i get pvp team ideas? i got biscuit fully overloaded today but i dont have a clue who to replace her with in spa
one way is to check teams of people in CA, other one is checking this channel regularly
but also asking for help here
Yeah p5 Cindy seems safe and abusable for def, might trip up the opponent
power of friendship 🙂
Check the pins, there’s a bunch of biscuit teams. But usually u wanna use her alongside stuff like Noah/moran/blanc/bay to protect them and stall the opponent longer while u do damage to them

Ty
indeed we are
What sync is @charred quail
he seems to be over 421
Sad I can’t aquire
461
This clearly shows your boobs side reference. 
ironic since place that should be for it isn't.
PvP chat just in general have people that know what unit does what
Entirely true/reasonable there with it
hardest thing to get people to do is read kits
People don't seem to like reading...
@tropic summit halp pls if possible 

cant snipe when you're c1 (f2p)

snipe the other C1 in your new bracket
you already 601?
how to snipe the wheel?

Aww hell nah.

i feel like with 581 sync i would do the thing against him....
but we can always dream
Time for me to uninstall/reinstall for this update
Showing signs of slowdown on startup
what update
Prob just Nikke going back to old ways, stacking files every update lol
Thanks.
When you're saying "new bracket" I was like "Dang, we got reshuffle"
Only to find out it's the same ass bracket smh
we gonna get it after this season ends
Do you have MoranT and La+T
Didn't bother checking if someone tried to snipe or not. If anyone did I just hope it wasn't C4
C7 be snipin me before day-off, now I just snipe back C2
Wdym, I even beat 66 sync gap against C1 
But yeah time to save to rocks for anniv
rocks are saved for vesti tomorrow
my peaksolute needs to deal more damage now
Both my main opponents either hit or are close to the big sync bonus. I have the boxes to get to the next one myself but I am opting to save them for new chapters.
could not be me
If you have Laplace Tresured, she's perfect for 5th spot in Nayuta comp, if you dont, just throw clip sg (Noir, Viper, Pepper, etc)
3rd make sure SWHA has lower Max HP than Drake
Rest just investment check, though I remind you to save some stuff for Anniv Nikke
What if Anniv Nikke is PvP Nikke 
we pull and when i get the gear and the rocks, i OL

thats what i did with snow
did not have full gear when she was released so slowly was working on her
Kinda hoping for an Iron code dps for PvE. Wouldn't say no to something that is good for PvP either though. Then again everyone else, especially the whales in my bracket will get it so it's kind of a moot point 
"Oh you have the new meta pvp unit too? Too bad, I have it too." 
We technically have with Red Rapi already don't we, minus the PvP part
You might be able to get Scarlet team with Cindy+Biscuit. But other teams probably not. 
I don't see it happening. At best it's another Libby. Which doesn't matter anyway.
It's another SWHA 

imagine if absolute could do the thing in team 3 but that cp gap is too much
Can only use specific Nikkes once per team in raids, I want more options for other teams.
Be ready
for tomorrow
Ah sorry, fair enough yeah. you do have Red Hood Original recipe
OG Snow White, Maxwell, Laplace Treasure
Yes to both thanks for your help!
I am 
To spend all rocks before anni
Bigboi stole my rocks
A 4% atk line slot 2 on privaty
Did you give her a gacha skin?

No I meat for me going to level 600
Anchor
No
601 or nothing
Ok

I like Anchor
No
It is
Nooo. The default is better
The Chinese freebies is best

Is tomorrow when you finally use your core dust?


Yes
there's no point to not auto hard campaign without @Retro
something is wrong me thinks
I don’t know how to get more cp but my spa def team doesn’t have Scar

true, label is a thing these days
Just low lines/dupes tbh
I dont think ur cp that abnormal
Think im like 6.2 at 641 bracket, with whale dupes/rocks could be higher but dont have either of those
Though i think also missing a chunk from tempering not maxed only lvl 10
Yeah, it could be lack of dupes. Pretty much every unit I have holds an SR15 doll, and skills are usually 7/7/7
Tempering is lvl 15
12 lines
Try to get total line power 80+ at least.
each nikke
Tbh just rather minmax big dps than cp pad batteries
Cp pad only issue if its an issue in bracket
oh ye that was @tidal lichen , credit to him then 


is it already tomorrow 
SP arena
- nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
- moran noah swha siren drakeT
- jackal scarlet xmaiden blanc vestiTU
Notes
- wishlist vestiTU
- build UP ada
hi
the slowing down the SRs plan worked

@tropic summit any reckon teams for CA? My nikkes are almost all maxed
Thank you so much
join this guy discord, @swift mango , they stored a good chunk of champ winners, i'd say you could refer to any of the last 2-3 CA winners, use teams where you've most of the units already invested
in general archetypes that are doing somewat well:
- slow cindy
- absolute
- nayuta SG
- scar-soline-rapunzel
- moran-bay-biscuit
- indom vestiTU
Added you my friend
i might've quit'd but the duty remains
the man, the legend 
Oh, I have read "The Book of Helm" many times! ❤️

The true server owner has appeared
the true server owner doesn't have the discord in their name tho 
Need best team for champion arena...
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@tropic summit does rei skip target if she is in p1?
if decoy is up it will work like other decoy
Hello, i need som help. i'm looking for rookie arena team. no cap.
post your box or blabla link set to public, we can give you teams but they may contain units you don't have invested, loses the point then
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtNzQ0NTQwODgxNTg0OTA4MTM0MA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNzQ0NTQwODgxNTg0OTA4MTM0MA%3D%3D
i'm not sure is this what you asked for but here you go.
it is, but it's set to private, set it to public and you're good
ok, i did it.
ye it works, taking a look
run these, when one breaks switch to the other
cubes:
moran tempering
noah tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering
helmT vigor
nayuta any
jackal quantum
xmaiden vigor
blanc vigor
Does SWHA's burst gen increase the more targets she has on her passive?
any extra hitbox is more burst gen
cindy decoy for example increases her burst gen
But her burst gen is the same no matter if she hits only 2 or 5 enemies every shot with her rockets?
Ye. Her max is 5 targets
But let's say theoretically there are only 2 on the field.
Would she generate the same burst gen as she does when hitting 5 normal targets?
would be irrelevant at that point
your concern is hitting 2RL or 2.5RL
if there is less than 5 nikke pre 2RL or 2.5RL, there's something fundamentally wrong (deficit)
even if there 1 target she still would generate the same, you have example of her burst which increases max lock on targets to 15, she doesn't need 15 targets for it to work it just makes her shoot everyone 3 times if everyone is alive
well i guess her effect one would generate less*
this thing hits everyone once, 2nd one hits based on amount of ammo she has, if it's 1 target - 1 targets gets hit a bunch of times
Oh. I see.
realistically you only need to concern yourself with burst gen between 0RL and 2RL
situationally 2.5RL
SWHA burst gen is essentially the same unless decoys are present
and even then, for the most part, it won't change much
i dont think it does btw
should stay the same, she doesn't hit through and not making both hp and decoy dmg
maybe main shot that pierces, but dont have example of it to find, and it's not that much, extra 2.8% if main shot hits decoy
we had instances where a 91% to 2RL SWHA would become natural 2RL against cindy, but i also generally don't bother actually ensuring it does work that way
i think it's also as you say, rather depending on pierce than hitting decoy
just like how a 97% to 2RL team with RH in it can be natural 2RL due to pierce
yeah, maybe
@tropic summit chibi not as fluffy
still transparent though 

your nayuta is 1st or 2nd highest atk% in that team, she'll be targetted by rosanna dispel at around 1RL
it will remove her buff that gives her indom for 9s
if running nayuta, ensure she's not the 1st or 2nd highest atk% in that comp
i'd suggest subbing xmaiden for a well invested clip SG tier unit, like lib

at that point you likely have helmT and another attacker that will ensure nayuta is at worst 3rd highest atk% in the team
examples:
assuming you've laplaceT or emilia, this is also doable, you'll add more dmg to nayuta 2RL B2
while retaining 2RL
helmt/laplaceT/RH are assumed to have more atk% than nayuta, as they are attacker class and generally have atk% OLs
2 are sufficient out of the 3 to avoid dispel on nayuta
oh wow, have no idea that rosa can dispel nayuta's indom lol
this for rookie arena?
So in theory rosa can also dispel blanc's indom right
you could run a pseudo indom or a glass cannon, you've good B3 but poor choice in B2 and B1
no, indom is applied at 2RL B2, rosa dispel is at 1RL
there's nothing today that can reach indom fast enough to be dispelled by rosanna
run
jackal cindy SWHA blanc helmT
also:
- invest asap in moranT
- wishlist noah
- get jackal to 4OL R15 to enable proper indom
Could I defeat the rail?
Oh, i know about the timing for rosa dispel hence i said in theory.
So in a hypothetical scenario rosa can dispel blanc's indom buff if it can be applied before rosa dispel at 1RL due to how the interaction works for Rosa and Nayuta.
Who could defeat Rail?
Indom is a buff that cause the unit to not be able to be killed and at worst stay at 1 hp
daymn
- assuming jackal linked attackers
- assuming blanc B2
- assuming your B3 indom target is lowest HP in the link
you'll achieve what is in the video
lol thats crazy
Maybe you could but I haven’t defeated the @tropic summit yet
@sick spindle also how’s ur union treating you
thank you, that's help a lot. i have a little more question. " when one breaks switch to the other " is this mean when i lose i have to switch to next team and try again or something? and do it in cycle? sry, i don't know much about gaming lingo.
U mean in C.A?
decent, though maybe im outgrowing it, joined a mostly active gold rank union back when i started
Just in general
NAH Rail is just goated
those are defense teams, they can also work for attack if you don't know what you doing
to answer your question, if you don't know what you doing on attack, then yes try each one once
i dunno blanc in a swimsuit is already an hard problem 
Wanna try the branch of my cult? We prob day 1 clear
sure
zant on the hunt again 
I see your Hard kk 
Union Id 51113
i just left my union so gotta wait 5 mins to request join
Discord invite in your dm
@umbral crown btw, nice.
@tropic summit finally I can’t give fair go back to my proper name
god emperor zant when 
When I have 4 ele Cindy

not the slot 3
Unless I remembered wrong
that thing is cursed af

my god this is gonna be soooo expensive
I can live with crit rate/crit dmg if imma be honest
shouldn't have settled with atk and ammo in line 1 and line 2 imo
always get a line 3 first, then work on the rest
cursed piece from the start 
I rolled that when I was sync 20
ye i can imagine
I’m not efficient at rolling tbh
But I still think 4 ele only matters for trying to get top 200
In solo raid

Open lock
Roll all till gets good L3
No
yes
No
Are there any new and unique CA teams?
it's a painful choice but the right one to fix it 

What I mean is
@crystal flicker no offense but I ain’t fixing shit when I have no rocks

3 ele good nufff for me 
Oki ty

What I hate about competitive union is... competitive
What do u mean
Right now it’s me and hippo make comps and people run them
Taarn helps too
you let that pure evil lifeform make comps? 
I've saw ppl mixmaxing their whole union, atk timing, formation, etc
Better then when it was just me, entire union runs cursed shit
sheet warfare 
spreadsheeting to victory

@shell hazel
We don’t have atk timing we just try to make sure high sync people don’t waste their hits on killing bosses, and that me and couple other higher syncs hit harder to manage bosses
That day I got reincarnated as Spreadsheet commander
other unions dont do that?
I didn’t know you were me

10/10 would watch
Snek do that
The casual union only care that they hit
Or
My casual union only care that they hit
i'm in a casual union that gets between 50 and 100 ranked, more than good enough for my sorry ass 

Gonna see if the casual branch day1 clear
zant real union is the cultists anyhow
I’ll take you if u get yeeted one day
the others are because he's bored
Even tho it’s downgrade regardless 
that would require me to click at least twice, to leave and then to join, do you understand how much effort that'd take me 
My union is still mostly sync 400ish?
you're investing on the long term, those baby cultists will become lord tier cultists in a few months 
I’ll just have to convince them to yeet you then u can click 1 less buttons
after months of training under the zant, you'll have more evil under your wing
u can type essays to recommend teams but u cant click 2 buttons?

life is difficult at times 
Long time ftw
My union used to be D2 clear
now it can clear D1
@hollow lagoon who's the lowest sync in the main union?
405

@quaint granite funny the union leader is the lowest
oh? what synchro 
oh nvm u typed it above, 405
He whales, Tis a eventually
damn whole union on average of 400 pretty gud
You're not a leader 
Rail losing his marbles
zant is that advisor you need to watch out for
one day he's your marshal, the other he's the supreme leader of a cult
I abdicated the sub leader as well then the new sub leader abdicated back to me
Now we are just trying to get a reason to abondon responsibility

Cult leader how’s breakfast
that's lowest average prob close to 500
we have 400-600 odds
that's a lot of power 
the day you have all small hippos/zants, you'll be fearsome
we're hoping to creep into top 100 at some point but I don't think today is that day
if your union average score is close to your or zant perfomance, it wouldn't be unreal
When @quaint granite hits 666 cuthulu will spawn
At some point you'll cross path with Snek
cultists will likely be top 100 in a matter of months i can see it 
Maybe when Taarn whales to 500
with the dark one and the god emperor in their ranks, it's ensured
Problem right now is
your lack of ele
The performance of a couple 600s are bad
Delete them!
or bench them for more competent sweaties 

look at this slacker for example @umbral crown



nah rosy been tryin' harder lately, me proud
the ol times of running nero moran jackal are beyond him now

Nero Moran kinda viable for raids tho 
don't give him ideas
he's still healing
You better pray they didn't add Black Snake to UR bosses
good ol' anchorIM PTSD
MC 
praying to all the gods you survive the double spray
Yeah when they're gonna add new boss there tho
when the community complains enough hopefully
What’s wrong with black snake

Extra bodies = extra bust gen
It be great
It's black

jk, the poisons pierce cover, so we need overheal or dmg red to survive it

And how many units have those?

Snake can tick my million hp units with 1 damage all it wants it’s not killing any waifu in 3 minutes
Should be across the board when sync 501+
ur bosses no longer threaten you
when do i get to be 501+ 
2 years of active play

define active
cuz that seems a bit slow
i should be 501 a few months before my 2year mark
synchro 593
2 years 2 months 8 days 
your assumption should be correct, likely 501+ a few months before 2 years tots
I just hit that 101 cd last week
@tropic summit for this team, any other Nikkes can replace Label? like Rapunzel? any advice?
f2p
?
ye i've spent 0 in this
cool.
Hes tryharder
it would change how that CA team works by replacing label, as she ensures you out trade against elec pre 2RL
might aswell just turn it in regular indom with 3 B3s
jackal vestiTU flex blanc ada (vestiTU and ada assumed linked)
im also a tryharder 
How's this Snow Crane guys? Good for PvP?
safely skip and wishlist if you like her design
she has poor synergy with most comps due to how her kit works
she literally punishes you.
3 and 4 teams "failed" last time, so did some weirdo Xhare team replacements. Not sure i'll go ith that, but hey, it's a start 😄







