pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

In my current bracket

[tropic summit]

i think you well could

🐒

[hollow lagoon]

In rookie no chance

[oak smelt]

I don't know how the leviathan c1 guy in my bracket have 70 plus level over everyone else while most are within 10 to 30 levels depending on whether they are sandbagging and not opening their boxes

Must be a bug no?

[tropic summit]

really? don't you have like 100+ synchro diff still

[hollow lagoon]

Let me check

[humble tiger]

What's sandbagging again?

[tropic summit]

to give you an example, i was ahead of 15-20 synch to someone, he started spending, in around 6-7 months he was 60 synch level ahead

[oak smelt]

Opps, its a f1 term. Means holding back your true team performance

[quick lake]

swiping core dust. spending behaviour smh

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit yeah he 487

That gap be shrinking

[tropic summit]

your blue units would be raid boss material to them still

[humble tiger]

Oh. I see. How does this work in PvP though?

[quick lake]

Im hoarding core dust. Stupid bracket is leveling too much

[oak smelt]

Not opening your boxes for massive gain in sync level, SR5/SR10, not fully OL and suboptimal lines

[humble tiger]

The Chinese guy in CH5 getting bullied everyday lmao. He's always at CH2 but since he's always offline for long periods, he gets attacked and then lose points for longer periods of time.

At least I'm only getting attacked by NCC. This guy has always been a thorn to my side since I started this game.

[hollow lagoon]

Nah, 617k, spa bois are 1 mill a comp my blues would lose

[tropic summit]

oh fascinating

they's stand an actual chance

[oak smelt]

Not a big deal to some, I mean everyone have some threshold of how much passive gems they want from pvp bracket.
So they don't care as long as they are above a certain amount of gems they can get bi weekly.
Some ppl just don't care for CA or glory in ranking and are just there for passive gems

[humble tiger]

Ah. I see. You do this for an extended period, then just upgrade everyone all at once and watch as everyone scramble.

[hollow lagoon]

Their problem is trying to take the other 2 teams out

[hollow lagoon]

Not really

U hold ur sync mean u don’t push as far mean y get less resource

U don’t hold c1 you also get less resource

[humble tiger]

Huh... strange.

[hollow lagoon]

So it’s like copium thinking you will win back the seat but if you got out seated for a long time you never will

[humble tiger]

Wait. Am I supposed to win this one?

[hollow lagoon]

Indom anything

Only reason you win is cus u out cp them prob

Or their Noah died

[oak smelt]

Well the idea is fully maxing out ur PVE team then push hard on campaign and holding out opening your massive stash of boxes when you reach certain milestones where the CD/battle data boxes are worth way more

[hollow lagoon]

Their Noah and mermaid died to your vesti

[gaunt bane]

came up with this for now which has alright CP... T2 is lacking in CP but biscuit might hold out...

[humble tiger]

So I got them before Noah could burst?

[gaunt bane]

or maybe I should just focus on 2 teams lol
but rumani/centi/trina arent built

[hollow lagoon]

Dosnt work, your opponent just have more resource and more sync

[tropic summit]

looks ok but use moran in T2 and RH in T3, T3 is glass cannon, buff nayuta dmg as much as possible

[humble tiger]

That's cool. I thought my team would've been slower, or at least same speed with their team.

[gaunt bane]

like swapping moran for RH?

[hollow lagoon]

Ofcourse if you are already c1 and you pull this Strat it just means you win even harder

[tropic summit]

the ideal would be this

1: siren resistant, moran + noah biscuit protected, good DPS, SG pressure on enemy p5
2: natural 2RL, with 2 clip RLs on quantum 7 you can make nayuta siren resistant, RH buffing nayuta can lethal iron codes and severely drop enemy units HP

you'd want ideally a clip RL that can also contribute dmg instead of rumani tho, the BiS would be emilia, second to that laplaceT

if you run nayuta 2.5RL, you're on B2 when enemy has already cast B3 (you're dead or enemy is on indom or anti nuke)
if you run nayuta 2RL, you're on B2 when enemy still hasn't cast blanc/noah B2

[gaunt bane]

doesnt seem like quantum 7 is necessary for 2RL on T3

[tropic summit]

it is necessary to hit B2 before siren hits stun on p1

[gaunt bane]

I see

[tropic summit]

if opponent is smart they can trivialize that team with siren

if you're at least siren resistant, you know they'll need to run slow cindy or anti nuke

the best trade off is if you push them to run a noah against it

[gaunt bane]

is 2.5RL a problem for T2?

[tropic summit]

then it means your other 2 teams don't have to deal with a noah

[tropic summit]

it's not actually 2.5RL, as you're still reaching B1 before siren stuns

all of this you can check on your own on https://nikke.top/

[gaunt bane]

oh wait I mean for T1, typo

yea I have it open

[tropic summit]

you mean your vesti team? that's 2.2RL

[gaunt bane]

no I mean Moran Noah team

[tropic summit]

then it's what i said earlier

[gaunt bane]

I see

[tropic summit]

SWHA alone can make you most of the times reach B1 before siren stun

[gaunt bane]

alright, we'll see how this goes

working on biscuit atm.. and then half anni will happen so no more pvp investment for a while

[tropic summit]

as long as you keeping ch3-ch6 range all gud imo

[gaunt bane]

yea, I've been staying on c2 since the start of this shuffle
shouldnt really drop below that, the guy just now was just the c3 guy lol

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit rate my cook

[umbral crown]

Always C3

[umbral crown]

Even better

[gaunt bane]

welp, that defense didnt work out

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/megumin-konosuba-47

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1342218659405500569/1488632244649201835/IMG_5232.webp

[arctic jewel]

Nomnomnomnomnom

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

I generally love most pasta dishes

[hollow lagoon]

stir fried smoky truffle tomato pork sauce, + bacon + kale stir fried with garlic

with smoked parprika sprinkled on top

i forgot to slap some cheese on top tho

[arctic jewel]

However, I have a hard time with pasta dishes that uses like 4 different type of cheese (like a sauce of sorts), that's too heavy for me

Or I mean greasy, not sure what word I should use

[hollow lagoon]

heavy

i prefer my pasta on the heavier side

but not tooo heavy

[arctic jewel]

I mean, carbonara is pretty goated

[hollow lagoon]

i havent made that yet

[arctic jewel]

I'm just a bit special and picky xD
Maybe it's because I train a lot

[cedar sorrel]

Does CS only do something at 11%?

[arctic jewel]

It's just that when there's too many of these type of ingredients

[hollow lagoon]

depends

vesti gets fun stuff at 8

[arctic jewel]

No, there's a few thresholds

[hollow lagoon]

ur team become siren immune at b2 with 11%

[cedar sorrel]

Cuz I have 2 low tier blue lines on ada so she isnt even at 11

[hollow lagoon]

stuff gets fun at 15%

[arctic jewel]

This one is pretty huge

[hollow lagoon]

[cedar sorrel]

And it rolled
CS
hit rate
Ele

So can I just roll the CS away since it doesnt hit a bench?

[hollow lagoon]

other than bay i think i have basically 11% across now

[hollow lagoon]

did u roll other pieces yet?

[arctic jewel]

[hollow lagoon]

most comps dont need ada to have cs

my ada just have cs by chance

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah theyre “optimal”

[arctic jewel]

Isn't Ada mostly used for damage buff on B3 Nikkes and a bit more controlled RL on Blanc teams?

[hollow lagoon]

ye

my ada is pertty bad

1 low roll 4% atk and then 2 ele

[arctic jewel]

My Ada is... OK, but her CS is really bad if I remember correctly

[arctic jewel]

If you ask me, unless you're dealing with Mirror Container in Hard mode, focus on other DPS Nikkes

[cedar sorrel]

Im dealing with CA rn cuz I just cant ever stop fighting annoying elecs

And honestly Ada is a pretty key unit in campaign imo

[arctic jewel]

I see, well, it's not a bad choice to invest in Ada, I just feel like there might be others that have higher priority, but I don't know how well built your other Nikkes are, so I can't really say anything

Just gave my opinion

Ada's Skill 1 is definitely important

Or was it Skill 2? I can't remember

[crystal flicker]

Are you winnin?

[cedar sorrel]

Theyre not really built when it comes to OL lines but I was mostly asking if 10.42 CS is useless

[arctic jewel]

In top 8? No idea xD

[cedar sorrel]

Cuz if it is I may as well roll it away instead of locking that line

[arctic jewel]

We will see the results about 18 minutes xD

[crystal flicker]

Since the undefeated whale has been konck'd out, this the best time to win CA tbh

[arctic jewel]

It's very unlikely useless, keep it as it is, then when you have enough rocks for Ada, you can improve that

Like @hollow lagoon mentioned, Siren counterplay is always nice to have

[cedar sorrel]

But is it 11% or bust?

Cuz atp I may as well not have that line if I need 11% in total

[arctic jewel]

We'll see, if I win against this opponent, my next opponent will be Tenshi

[crystal flicker]

11% accross all "meaningful" RL

Tenshi is meh

[arctic jewel]

I thought you and my previous opponent were already tough for my teams

[crystal flicker]

Tenshi opponent is Yrotchiv, I lost final to him lol

[arctic jewel]

If Tenshi is easier, then let's hope he wins this one then

Btw, my team building is based a lot on Tenshi's previous teams

[crystal flicker]

I also took prev finalist comp for rev

Just dont have enough Crit & ATK

[hollow lagoon]

idk what id did to deserve being shoved into your bracket but

it is what it is

[arctic jewel]

@crystal flicker This was my opponent before facing you

[crystal flicker]

really

I misremember it then

[arctic jewel]

This matchup is so ass for Noah, and yet I somehow clutched it

[arctic jewel]

Naah, our game went completely different

[versed mesa]

🍌

[glad meteor]

[crystal flicker]

You've been using your luck for this year, better watch for random Isekai Delivery Service

[arctic jewel]

Lel

My journey ends here

[crystal flicker]

Oh another chinese

[arctic jewel]

🤔

[glad meteor]

Sg couldn’t clutch

[wind kelp]

All cheers failed so far, thank you me for easy choices, now just gotta get a couple more for full failure 😄

[arctic jewel]

I wonder how I can make sure to really improve my SG team? Just higher CP?

[glad meteor]

Dupes + atk OL

[arctic jewel]

Also, Ein true damage buff looks interesting

I assume that's why I barely did anything

[quick lake]

Ein + Ada is really nice

[hollow lagoon]

my 6 hours of credits

[brazen pilot]

this battle lasted over a minute long

are you for REAL BRUH

[glad meteor]

Yes

Moran with biscuit just too strong sometimes

[brazen pilot]

[undone blaze]

Do you guys think it's better to save up gear for when a T9M piece drops for a main unit or try to OL filler units? or level main unit's OL gear?

[placid bloom]

you get enough gear exp to OL roughly 2 units a month, so if you are planning to save for double anni 1% units and you have no exp atm then now is the time to start saving. Not worth leveling OL gear to +5 unless you have nobody else you plan on building, which is almost never

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit @shell hazel

[arctic jewel]

I'm sorry for the loss

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

helm?

[arctic jewel]

I'll do better next time

[glad meteor]

Yes. Easier burst rotation and heals

[hollow lagoon]

Certain some told me helm bad

For ziz

[glad meteor]

The lowest clears have mihara. But i gave up trying to mald the mihara comp

[arctic jewel]

But I've been told that Helm is broken?!

Did the interwebz lie to me?

[glad meteor]

We are in pvp channel. So helm is indeed broken

[hollow lagoon]

what was my cp on 581 anyway

oh i didnt clear on 581

but my rapi is 60 ele 20 atk back then

[versed mesa]

Rival made it to top-4 again. His opponent is last season winner

[hollow lagoon]

now days i die at 32

ca aint fun anymore

[versed mesa]

I really don't know where to put my cheer. Both seem pretty strong, but I dunno if I want my rival to actually win or not

[hollow lagoon]

just do it for credits

[versed mesa]

[hollow lagoon]

i did a bro vote on @arctic jewel and then i lost 6hours of credits

[versed mesa]

I voted for the rival. He better win now though so I get my credits

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

@placid bloom please don't have my cheer

[placid bloom]

wym, you already beat cup what you afraid of

you are hero

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

tenshi won last match for me, I got tenshi again

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

I'm gonna watch the Mario Galaxy movie soon

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

SHE DED!

@glad meteor what was synchro and lineup in the end

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/gWf-WYHcCv4?si=praYyXNLQfJk733h

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/banana-anime

[umbral belfry]

[lunar pawn]

@brazen pilot

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor

[brazen pilot]

[gritty ridge]

Goodmorning chatterini

[arctic jewel]

Gm bigboi

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon

🍌

[undone blaze]

:)...

[gritty ridge]

Chat, do I deserve 14 rocks today

[cunning crown]

💳

[swift mango]

10 rocks is the max you can get a day without full burst so don't.

[gritty ridge]

Add 4 rocks from gacha skin

[swift mango]

[river dune]

Fake

[brazen ledge]

hi, how does this team work ?

[lone sequoia]

moran+biscuit S2 stall, mihara DoT clear, in case enemy team doesn't have dmg or speed to kill cindy they will tank or wipe with her

really slow comp, but the main synergy is moran+biscuit+DoT

[swift mango]

Only work against team that can't kill Biscuit in 6rl or 5rl if 21% CS on Bay and biscuit

[brazen ledge]

so not viable in sp arena ?

[lone sequoia]

if you use a team without dmg or snipers to attack they will waste b3 with mihara

[swift mango]

No

[lone sequoia]

it should work as a bait... but need more speed for SP

[brazen ledge]

k thx

[north brook]

Most ca type teams are like that, decent spread mu, with 1 hard counter

Cant run teams that get hard countered in spa

[gritty ridge]

But every team has a hard counter

[tropic summit]

some don't have hard counters, but specific counters that require invest checks

and those are the def you want

the more specific/tricky the solution to your def team, the better the def

on the other hand, once solved, bye bye def forever

[tropic summit]

0 rocks incoming next reset

[lunar pawn]

Wouldn't those require hard investment too

[gritty ridge]

I end up forgetting cuz I have everything built lmao

Surely everyone has a strong rosa

[lunar pawn]

Define strong

[gritty ridge]

Minimum 30 atk, 7 10 10

[lunar pawn]

That's fine

[tropic summit]

say you've a def that is solvable only by vesti on strong invest + ada and a def that can only be solved by specific moran noah team, you'll fend off most pvp plebs

meanwhile if your def is known patterns or archetypes, plebs with pve/pvp hybrid units will solve it

before SWHA/helmT released, you kinda had to have pvp core units built

attacker life got even easier since those units happened

as you can use pve units for pvp

[gritty ridge]

Rail do I play heart gold or soul silver

[lunar pawn]

Do tricky comps even exist these days? Outside cp penalty scenarios

[tropic summit]

throw a dice

[tropic summit]

they do, but they don't get shared most of the time

you'll want to hold them for rainy days

[lunar pawn]

I need to infiltrate keripo's union then it seems

[tropic summit]

there's some funny things you can do with jackal links and sacc

at the end of the day it's just tricking the opponent with info they can't see beforehand

[lunar pawn]

Not really being attacked in SPA as of late so not an immediate concern

[tropic summit]

once they run a few times they'll know how to deal with them, but gets you some def wins until then

[lunar pawn]

So jackal with triple dps, and rosanna sac teams?

Aren't those kinda common

[tropic summit]

not really triple dps

you play with setups that force specific comps so that you know another comp can't get countered by that specific comp

essentially you push their cards in a way you know they'll go and lay traps accordingly

let's assume you make a team that mitigates indom and counters stalls, then you know what the opponent will run elsewhere

and lay a trap in between

e.g. "oh this is solved by indom" while it isn't

or vice versa, "oh i can solve this with stall" but turns out you can't

[lunar pawn]

playing chess in pvp

[tropic summit]

at the end of the day since you can't win def, you gotta make the opponent fumble instead

things that appear obvious but aren't are the juicy defs

[lunar pawn]

as long as you don't need to worry your opp will just cp diff you, yea

[tropic summit]

ofc

you aint defending against whels

[lunar pawn]

postman still didn't drop by

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-gif-2973462995402018676

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit here

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

damn gonna need essentially 601 uh

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-angry

[glad meteor]

You have morn p3 tho

[arctic jewel]

Just saw the Mario Galaxy movie

[tropic summit]

not sure how that's gonna help more than your cores on RRH

[arctic jewel]

It was good, but not as good as the first movie

[glad meteor]

Maybe i go watch it too as mind refresher. Haven’t gone out to watch a movie since forever

Last movie was prob superman

[tropic summit]

damn it's been a while since i last watched an actual movie too

as long as we don't consider anime movies that is

[versed mesa]

I haven't gone to a cinema to watch a movie in 8 years

Ooh rival actually going for the snipe

[mint kite]

aaaa my meeting distracted me from attacking before the reset

[violet prism]

Hello, can someone help me how to beat these teams?

[undone blaze]

I hate substats

charge damage and hitrate on cindy gave me a 4k cp boost, but 1x ammo that she actually needs only 1k

[tropic summit]

you're on the left, run the teams here

against enemy helmT team need 778kCP+
against enemy cindy team need 676kCP+

you can slap triple win perhaps even

[violet prism]

The 2nd team is interesting, Thank you Rail san

[tropic summit]

go with the above, i've added a possible solution for T1 too

we can slack on T3 speed as they've 3RL-ish team

[violet prism]

Can you explain how the 2nd MU works?

[tropic summit]

get lib killed, let em burst, get lib revived, nuke on 1hitko on all enemy team as biscuit stacks are not expected to pop yet

[violet prism]

gotcha, thanks again

[tropic summit]

no problemo, lemme know how it goes or record if you wanna

[noble oasis]

are there like 3 ideal special arena teams to work towards, assuming you have every unit? im only missing bready and bmilk, but can provide roster screenshots if needed
i dont need to be rank 1 or anything, but i havent updated my teams since like.. eva collab
1 rookie arena team i can just mindlessly use each day would be cool too if its not too much to ask.

[tropic summit]

there are 2 stable attack teams you can aim for

jackal vestiTU blanc centi flex
moran noah biscuit swha flex

flex is generally non feeding clip RL or clip SG tier battery/offburst

as for defense, assuming you got all units, this is fairly stable

emilia and lappy can be inverted if you need to balance CP, serve same purpose

[noble oasis]

oh very cool. ty.
what exactly does "clip" refer to though

[tropic summit]

burst gen tier

from the highest to the milder burst gen units ^

when we say clip RL tier we essentially mean

helmT, SWHA, trina, anis, jackal, centi, rumani, emilia, noah, laplaceT (situationally vestiTU)

[noble oasis]

oh interesting. ok

[tropic summit]

anything below that is between clip RL and RL or specials are refered to clip SG burst gen tier

e.g. liberalio, xmaiden and all clip SGs fall into that category, nihilister included

[mystic rain]

clip means the reload

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit hi

[mystic rain]

mag reload means entire mag gets reloaded from zero
clip is piece by piece

generally clip also means higher burst gen

[warm monolith]

A friend of mine told me this tactic, i now have lb2 rh, you can understand the clip is mine https://youtu.be/GkpyBu48OmE

[tropic summit]

isn't it just a coincidence?

it's like one of those "rituals" where ppl roll with their waifu nendroid and "increases the odds"

[warm monolith]

Idk, ive got 4 SSRs in total in the last 3 multis, i know its not true but it feels good to think its true lol

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Also ive got my 2nd lb of rh im close to reaching her mlb and getting that masterpiece of an wallpaper

[warm monolith]

Nah, the original wallpaper is the best

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Peak over fan service

[tropic summit]

says the one with unspeakable amount of bay's lewds

[warm monolith]

Uhhh, not half of em- maybe 5% of them are not

[tropic summit]

[noble oasis]

sorry one more dumb question, when it says "quantum cube" no, does that mean just mean they can use whatever other cube? like bastion/resiliance or whatever.

[warm monolith]

Also almost 700 image/video/cosplay (i swear i didnt make the album cover)

[tropic summit]

ye quantums are generally only needed in jackal teams or teams that need that bit of extras burst gen% per hit to hit the next thresholds

in your specific case, in nayuta team they also help giving your team siren resistance to burst in time with nayuta before it lands

[hollow lagoon]

have u the complete version of dis

[warm monolith]

I have this art but it is a set?

Ah ok yea i have the full ver

[hollow lagoon]

no i just cut out the part that would get me smited off of this universe

[warm monolith]

Stop yall putting that emote please

[tropic summit]

someone is on the hunt

[warm monolith]

Yeah sorry i read wrong

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[warm monolith]

He probbly found on reddit (where i found it too)

[tropic summit]

there's gonna be bananas for a while, and shifty has nothing to do with it, bananas are healthy

[hollow lagoon]

yup

[tropic summit]

🍌

[warm monolith]

Imma hunt some more Bay fan arts real quick

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-banana-ff-banana-gif-665715460419329170

[hollow lagoon]

anyways i got 2x2's ending i likes the last one they didn't do a dazzeling peral

[tropic summit]

that was fast.

[versed mesa]

It's just a single thing after the hm clear

[tropic summit]

pretty sure arcana would prefer it if you took more your time @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

I took Privity for first round

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Arcana gets with you regardless in her bond anyway

[noble oasis]

sorry i lied. one more question. if i treasure centi, does she need to be replaced with someone else? some other clip RL i guess?

[tropic summit]

don't treasure centi

it makes her actually weaker and way more situational

stop at phase 1 and don't proceed further

[noble oasis]

oh phase 1 is okay?

[tropic summit]

you can still salvage her at phase 1

[warm monolith]

Man of the culture

[tropic summit]

just don't go any further

[noble oasis]

i just wanna do the story and stuff...

[hollow lagoon]

Calculated decision

[versed mesa]

I'm tempted to just get the phase 1 to get rid of the taunting red dot

[tropic summit]

or be a man and do it like @hollow lagoon and @swift mango and treasure her all the way

[versed mesa]

But worried it will just come back when I eventually get enough of the upgrade material anyway

[hollow lagoon]

We didn’t get any “intimate” time with Privity I recall, but arcana we kind of just waifu her on the get-go

[lunar pawn]

story skipper

[warm monolith]

[hollow lagoon]

Wut, I have 100% and I read everything, I mean outside of event

[lunar pawn]

ah that, then yea, priv is super boring in her bond

[warm monolith]

Who the hell made this

[tropic summit]

[lunar pawn]

her treasure story isn't anything to brag about either

[tropic summit]

advise and treasure stories are generally sh*t anyway

[warm monolith]

Imma turn into a cockroach and fly away

Kurourishi or whatever the hell its name is the goat btw

The mvp of the last episode🙌

[hollow lagoon]

Well helm treasure was atleast confirmed canon

[tropic summit]

she rode the aegis cannon

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

my precious without glasses

[shell hazel]

I can't believe it's Friday

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-movies-rule-gmr

[shell hazel]

hopes and dreams

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

If it’s Friday I’ll 641 for union raid

[warm monolith]

What is going on with 'nikke 2'?

[glad meteor]

Metamorphis

[tropic summit]

140% legit news

[placid bloom]

Nikke 2 is the game that will save PvP chat

[hollow lagoon]

Bay gonna be dancer class yes

Her skill tree importance is pyromancy

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dancer-anime

[warm monolith]

Im asking for real, ive seen some clips and stuff is it all just was an april fools thing?

[hollow lagoon]

2036

[warm monolith]

I like the taste of iron!

[tropic summit]

if it happens on 01/04, you know something maybe just maybe is off

[tropic summit]

2036 doesn't exist, it's 2 years after world ended

[hollow lagoon]

Kekw

Well I had a good harem

I have little regrets

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ssv-ssvnetwork-gif-12948802526367307510

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

speaking of, I accidentally synced to 545 was meant to be saving crates

so back to saving crates but I suppose I'll be a higher sync for the UR than I would have been lol

[tropic summit]

"accidentally"

guess your hands were distracted with all the

[shell hazel]

no was a mistake as it costs me resources :9

it's basically pointless being 545 now I can't do ziz, nothing was gained really just less crate efficiency

[tropic summit]

void-kun struggles increased surely

[shell hazel]

no

can't even say that is the case tbh

[tropic summit]

rip void-kun, not even on the radar

[shell hazel]

was just a misclick, went 530 => 545 so wasted some

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

void kun is 556, and I think I only faced him twice in the last few weeks

so wasn't causing me issues there

[tropic summit]

he sleeps

[versed mesa]

I've been managing to save my boxes for a few weeks now. That guy in C4 will probably be able to hit 681 today with the hardmode boxes, unless he opts to save.

So still over under if he will be able to beat me again with the boost from that

But even if he does, my lead is large enough now that he won't keep me away from 3k gems

[shell hazel]

lost 2-4K cd with that error lol, depends how much we gain on new chapters

last time it was only +1

[tropic summit]

even the hippo makes mistakes, @hollow lagoon he's no longer pure evil, he's silly evil

[shell hazel]

I make mistakes all the time 🙁

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-pat-anime

[shell hazel]

I'm evil baka

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/waifu-alya-alyasometimeshidesherfeelingsinrussian-anime-girl-anime-girls-gif-18253224721276285488

[tropic summit]

need 2nd season of this

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

need more of that epic sister moments

[hollow lagoon]

I knew he was hiding juice

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/suou-yuki-sister-2

[hollow lagoon]

That bruh I could only sync to 535 act

[shell hazel]

I'm not hiding juice, you are lol

[tropic summit]

wow, so evil

[shell hazel]

show me what you can sync to zanta

[tropic summit]

he can sync to keripo's sync surely

bet those aren't all his boxes afterall and it's all fake to make it seem like he's not the god emperor

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-did-the-thing-leo-did-the-thing-leo-the-thing-gif-12336321566385221824

[tropic summit]

clicks enchance

[shell hazel]

445 was my max, so you're still +112 sync

[versed mesa]

Dunno if there are Saga of Tanya the Evil enjoyers here, but new season finally coming in July

https://tenor.com/view/tanya-smile-evil-anime-saga-of-tanya-the-evil-gif-22994710

[shell hazel]

last season was so long ago but I enjoyed it

[hollow lagoon]

Oh well I guess I’ll push 661 for union raid then

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon well it was fun

[shell hazel]

the scary thing is that +112 sync gap also cost more resources than the last 112 sync did, so it's super far ahead lol

[versed mesa]

I was hanging out with a friend who had never really watched much anime outside of Ghibli movies. I decided to watch a few eps of Tanya with him. His watched anime list is now longer than mine I corrupted him

[tropic summit]

let's just hope RRH never finds out what we did with these 2

[hollow lagoon]

I Wouldent know what hit arcana in the head to make her go for harem ending but Okiedokie

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/frieren-smug-face

[tropic summit]

we gave her the 🍌

[hollow lagoon]

Seed of life bro

[tropic summit]

my god that line

[hollow lagoon]

With out seed of life more 🍌 can’t be grown

[versed mesa]

I love 🍌 s

[hollow lagoon]

I usually make 🍌 pancakes

[tropic summit]

🍌

real 🍌

[versed mesa]

Shift Up wants people to get more potassium

[tropic summit]

bet whoever localized/translated was just waiting for this moment all of his career

and at that moment "finally, i can do this"

[hollow lagoon]

Who ever did it was a man of the culture

[arctic jewel]

that joke was wild, both here and in an earlier scene

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-see-youre-a-man-of-culture-as-well

[tropic summit]

unhinged, the way it should be

[hollow lagoon]

U can’t be cultured without cult

[arctic jewel]

[hollow lagoon]

Some one quit the cult tho gonna need to discover another

Back to recruitment

[arctic jewel]

... why am I not allowed to recruit her?!

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz robot not NIKKE

[arctic jewel]

neither is Ada

[hollow lagoon]

Ada version is a NIKKE shifty made for us

[versed mesa]

It sucks that her menu screen already went away, even though the missions are still available for 2 more days

[arctic jewel]

😭

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon when are we getting cindy and RRH next

[hollow lagoon]

Oh boi

[tropic summit]

or siren and cindy i'm also fine with that

got plenty of 🍌

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[hollow lagoon]

Bunny Siren and Cindy event comes with Noir Blanc treasure and Noir gatcha skin where she only ware pants but top half is less clothed

[versed mesa]

Noir... 🍫 🍌

[tropic summit]

you want the community to go broke i see

[shell hazel]

@arctic jewel will join us

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/zoltan-fingers-cult-bubblewrap-members-gif-5179588

[hollow lagoon]

If he wants to it be great

[arctic jewel]

my head is currently between the Thighgap

[hollow lagoon]

I’m aware

[arctic jewel]

maybe some beautiful day, just not right now

[hollow lagoon]

Dude they have low boiz but their high boiz are higher

[shell hazel]

that is why you need to be sync 1000 zanta

[arctic jewel]

man, imagine having that high synchro

[hollow lagoon]

Problem with cult is, we got bunch of 400-500s that play well, but some of our 600s plays kinda ass

[versed mesa]

If I actually spent money just to climb to super high levels, I would probably have quit really early. Nothing to do when you already have everything. That is why spending doesn't make sense to me, even beyond the cost.

[tropic summit]

you're talking with at least 2 f2ps here

i don't think your message will reach them 🍌

[shell hazel]

such as Hime

[hollow lagoon]

Well with solo raid museum there’s always something to do

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

like dying and failing to reach even the first tier checkpoint

[hollow lagoon]

When I’m bored I just go beat the shit out of black smithy for corrupting Marian

Oh eternal torment on that bugger for poking his tentacle into my waifu before I did

[tropic summit]

oi, your real reasons are coming out

[hollow lagoon]

A cult leader always speaks the truth

[arctic jewel]

A man of culture, with a golden heart

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[tropic summit]

this is probably how arcana looks at you after you're done in 20 seconds

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

Btw what are the main stats to aim for with Ada? I don't really have the rocks right now, but down the line when I can try to get her better lines?

[arctic jewel]

My guess is Atk, Ele and CS, maybe 1 Ammo

[versed mesa]

I have max ammo on 3rd line on one piece and ele on another, missing second line though. CP suffering from that

[arctic jewel]

very relatable

I would keep the Ammo

[versed mesa]

One of my subleaders been away over 10 days now I hope he didn't quit. losing people who have been in my Union for years

[shell hazel]

then you become a cultist 🙂

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-gif-975489253273843974

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-1748499123257475241

[tropic summit]

10 days? 🧱

it's bayover

[shell hazel]

10 days is 🧱

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

Kara please kill ziz for me

[glad meteor]

601 soon

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

But i can fix ziz

[versed mesa]

I keep switching my cheer between my main SP rival and last season winner. No idea who will win, since both their teams seem pretty even, order wise too

[glad meteor]

Maybe she can fix me

[shell hazel]

I just cheer for the one who has highest % cba to work it out

[humble tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/baron-bananas-kamen-rider-gaim-gif-21069304

[versed mesa]

My rival has the most votes but so many times I've voted for the one with the lower percent and they end up indeed winning, so I'm at a loss

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Does ur people tell you if they gonna quit

[undone gate]

@tropic summit thanks to your advice i am finally rank 3 in my arena with the lowest CP in top 15 ur a life savior

[hollow lagoon]

Hard part is hold it

[versed mesa]

Nah, I don't even have a discord or anything. Just send a reminder with the ingame message when new UR is open

[undone gate]

i beat this guy in rookie arena a few times but now he just copied my team and beats me with CP deficit is there a counter to this comp i can use?

[hollow lagoon]

I mean I guess ur the type that prefers them quieter communities

[hollow lagoon]

Blow it up with indom vesti on Ada buff

Or maybe u can try Privity but u need sustain on it

[undone gate]

didnt build vesti yet but ill save the comp for later thank you

[undone gate]

oh priv i do have on P3 in 2 days

[versed mesa]

Chatting here is like the most I do, outside of my channel with my irl friends

[raven flume]

based

communication is overrated

[versed mesa]

Well I am Finnish, so that also is part of it.

[hollow lagoon]

The yoink only works if the union leader I’m trying to yoink is in a dying union and does not enjoy being in a dying union

[raven flume]

i didnt wanna say it, but i did see that in the profile just now

bro has that 1-meter distancing at the busstop vibe

well, prolly more like 2-3 meter

[versed mesa]

Could easily sit in the same room for hours and no one says a word and it is a good time

[gritty ridge]

She doesnt need fixing

Neither does behe

[hollow lagoon]

That’s mid, need to get to my tier, get other people to distance you

[raven flume]

my excuse is usually "i rather listen"

[versed mesa]

I have that ability but only with women

[hollow lagoon]

My ability is not sexist

[raven flume]

[hollow lagoon]

[sick gulch]

is centi's treasure still bad?

[lunar pawn]

yes

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

Ziz was perfect when we first met her, she's a cutie

[gritty ridge]

Just give me behemoth

[hollow lagoon]

Nobody wants bahamut now that we have Privity

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[hollow lagoon]

that was fast

[arctic jewel]

For the record, I like Behemoth too

[gritty ridge]

Mine

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-i-am-fast-snake-mongoose-panther-rainn-wilson-gif-25505022

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna show her how words arent the only way to have a conversation

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[mint kite]

Here's a weird request;
What would let me stall the longest when attacking these teams? (I'm assuming I don't have something to beat them)
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTIwMjIxODg2MTc4MjAyNzkwMDE%3D

[inland crow]

Hello, maybe someone has the big brain to make a team to defend against this?

[tropic summit]

T1 indom on deficit is generally rough, also the highest CP in enemy team so don't bother
T2 scarlet team you could do with a noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani, still need to stay around 22-24% deficit
T3 this is actually sensible to scar-jack, see if you can pad a 2RL-2.5RL scar-jack against this, you'll need to not be in deficit, although minus s.anis they're all small hitters, you could do up to 18% deficit

recapping:

T2 noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
T3 scar flex trina flex jackal (scarlet needs to be linked, one of the 2 flex being RH would help, other can be SWHA/vestiTU or similar)

[tropic summit]

to defend against? you're close in synchro so unless opponent fumbles, you generally shouldn't win defense

it looks like poorly built teams although, not sure if on purpose, they're not even running indom

change your def to attached SS

• emilia/laplaceT interchangle
• rumani can be subbed by emilia/laplaceT
• nayuta trina and emilia/laplaceT should ideally run quantum 7
• jackal quantum 7
• vestiTU is assumed linked and indommed
• moran ideally treasured, but not mandatory

[inland crow]

Thanks, anyway, i apreciate the help.

[tropic summit]

water codes and linked, they're begging for you to run cindy or scarlet nuke against it

noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani (safest pick, direct counter)
or
noah biscuit lib helmt noise (similar logic to above, will wipe everyone minus nayuta)
or
scar trina helmt rh/liter/label jackal (this one is risky as nayuta will/may hit link before you do, only run it if you're high on CS%)
or
moran noah cindy swha helmt (a bit riskier depending on nayuta dmg output against noah p2, but should do)

pick w/e keeps you within range to not be CP gapped

[undone gate]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-cool-6

[tropic summit]

it's over @hollow lagoon , i've the lower ground

[hollow lagoon]

[gaunt bane]

side question, for pvp who should I work on next https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjk0NzgzNDI1MDUyOTc3MzU1OA%3D%3D&type=combat
working on biscuit atm, im guessing next one would be between centi, trina & rumani

[gritty ridge]

Crow

[vale fossil]

That was funny ngl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szQhJ6ROrJI

[tropic summit]

wishlist siren, bay, rapunzel

build trina, rumani, biscuit, centi, lappyT, xmaiden, noise, soline, rosanna

priority wise fix biscuit, trina, rumani, noise first
medium term soline and rosanna
lappyT would be good if she's not finished yet

[gaunt bane]

lack of siren is blocking my 40% deficit progress

centi is not in that priority list? 🤔

[leaden canyon]

welp, this worked once. RIP I dont think I can try anything else to trip up my opponent, hes too used to any of the normal teams that float around

[umbral crown]

[glacial hatch]

How good is Bay in pvp?

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Fairly

[umbral crown]

171k cp increase in sp

[gritty ridge]

Arguably 3rd best b2

[glacial hatch]

All i needed to know. Ty

[gritty ridge]

Blanc and Noah are the 2 best, and then bay is fighting nayu for 3rd

[humble tiger]

Sorry. You getting denied. Leave me alone. I check my PvP every 10 minutes.

I really need better units so I can make better teams.

Thankfully, he's the only one attacking me.

[gritty ridge]

Any of yall know when next shuffle is?

Im comfy in 3rd but I wouldnt mind another shuffle

[humble tiger]

I want NCC to be shafted to another bracket full of whales.

[umbral crown]

should be this month

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-scared-holding-breath-terrified-gif-5049853410287167077

[umbral crown]

so the wheel can come back to where he belongs

[hollow hazel]

are new def teams possible with my current nikkes? (m.anchor is fully OL that's why I use her)

these teams are my current def, but been getting bullied lately hehe, would appreciate the help, thanks!

[real abyss]

new def team worked finally

[silk wing]

One day I'll be smart enough to figure out PvP teams lol just not now haha

[quick lake]

Just copy teams in pins

[quick lake]

This is arguably one of the best defences imo. T1 and T2 especially

[real abyss]

bless treasure moran for enabling bay 😭 👌

[crystal flicker]

One day that Rumani gonna get Indom

[restive heart]

ligma got him

[unique wagon]

Bro my rival in PvP is C1 we cant hit him now

This is sad

[silk wing]

more just figuring out how to counter teams

[unique wagon]

Hmm

Yeah Blanc TVesti is oof

There is a way to counter that but it uses both Jack Blanc Biscu

Def is simple, 2 RL Noah, BlancTvestiJack, and Moran with at most 2.5 RL

Team 3 is blockable by Noah though and T1 too

Might wanna use Priv instead

[humble tiger]

Super close ngl. If that enemy Nayuta's hand actually landed I would've lost.

[slim wing]

Anyone got advice on how to defeat this team? The Red Hood team still didn't have enough damage to knock out Moran before Blanc invulnerability wore off, and the Siren team stunned the enemy Noah, but not before she got her shield up. Not really sure what else to try.

[leaden canyon]

I use SWHA blanc hood noir jackal

works every time

[slim wing]

What does Noir bring that Helm doesn't? Does it just slow down the burst generation so the Blanc invulnerability lasts long enough?

[leaden canyon]

shotgun procs biscuit sooner

on attack helm hits p5

so no wonder you getting out stalled

could do drake also if you want instead

I just use noir because I have no ammo lines on my SWHA

all snipers hit p5 on attack

so you just need something to proc the biscuit on moran sooner

[slim wing]

I'll give it a try, thanks!

[leaden canyon]

good luck

Just make sure swha is still linked and if you are using drake and drake gets linked I would just use noir because you are fighting a swha

[brazen salmon]

bruh why this guy everyday hitting me instead of going top 1 spot?

[torn obsidian]

you hit the first then

[brazen salmon]

@noble hatch your rival now was obsessed with me

[lapis galleon]

Guys need all ur help with champion area - any recommendations for all line ups?

[brazen salmon]

i had truce with the jj guy and i only want stick to number 2, pretty sure he still went after me even i took 1 spot

[oblique ridge]

Sounds like he doesn’t want to mess with the jj guy

[quick lake]

Blanc VestiTU Ada, can sometimes win against biscuit opponents too. Ada too OP

[brazen salmon]

he will get wrecked if he choose to attack either way

very smart, knew how to snipe before 4.00 reset either

[radiant fox]

imagine someone come here asking for a def team > succeed
then the guy who lost also came here asking for a team to counter that def team > also succeed
then it became a vicious cycle of attacking and defending

[scarlet adder]

how good of nayuta you need for her to be slapping away like 40% hp with each slap with RH buff?

[glad meteor]

Moran anchor biscuit swha helmt?

Temper on whole team

[glad meteor]

Thats the team I’ve been using against that comp

[coral ether]

Should I replace someone in my team?

[quick lake]

The one that gave the help must be super busy

[mighty haven]

Imagine if we had this in Global

[mystic rain]

enriched

[hollow lagoon]

Truly enriched

[swift mango]

What's this?

[scarlet adder]

any thoughts? other pvp nikkes that i have are like vestitu, tmoran, liberalio, rumani. Don't have noah and other popular ones that i didn't name.

[tropic summit]

what's the other team? both those enemy teams could use a 2RL or 3RL noah to trivialize them

if the other team is just a CP pad, nayuta and lib/vestiTU can take care of it

[scarlet adder]

ehh nope

[tropic summit]

oh indom vesti

[tropic summit]

play CP tetris as needed, keep vestiTU team on 3RL to catch lib nuke, other team jackal indom with biscuit variant will ensure you hit indom safely, siren will also prevent nayuta to begin with

SWHA, RH, DrakeT are all flexable

[scarlet adder]

like i said i dont have noah

[tropic summit]

then you gonna need to indom and stun noah

how is ppl noahless at 352 synchro tho

[scarlet adder]

by being unlucky :D?

tbf i have like 170 blue tickets on me

and gems for like 900 pulls

[tropic summit]

T3 too slow, T2 too slow
T1 has tia slowing you down, as your stronger team it will anyway be skipped

post your box so we can take a look at what you could fix

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit is there a point in trying what i have on screens? or this will not work probably?

i feel like cindy is super gamble, and swha will not kill of those defenders and die personally

[coral ether]

That's my whole storage

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta helmt liter trina laplaceT
• jackal swha blanc mmast rrh
• moran anchorIM biscuit vestiTU lib

Notes

• build trina
• build centi, rumani, biscuit, blanc, noise
• get moran treasured

get your teams upgraded once units above are better built, can replace some CP pad for better burst gen and reduced feed

[tropic summit]

the SWHA will struggle, because she can't pop biscuit stacks early enough, you'll die attacking invulnerable, you need a vestiTU variant to deal with moran noah biscuit

the other team is probably gonna be fine as you deny nayuta, just need to reach cindy B3 alive to wipe

[scarlet adder]

i can switch swha with vestitu

[humble tiger]

You can just put your device on landscape and take 1-3 screenshot that covers everyone.

[half garden]

What's wrong with my defense team? Dropped from 4 to 10th place

[scarlet adder]

i would probably switch rumani and vesti spots, there is chance to ruin indom

3rd one is abomination xD

trina in p1 will melt so fast

siren in defense probably not a good choice unless you lack pvp nikkes lik me

she feeds jackal and people will easily set up teams that her stun will do nothing

[half garden]

The only PVP nikke that I'm missing is probably Emilia

Should i switch the 3rd team to Scarlet Trina team?

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh drakeT
• moran noah siren swha biscuit
• scarlet vestiTU s.anis blanc liter (CP pad)

Notes

• get moran treasured
• can consider laplace treasure
• i don't see jackal? build her up asap
• you're lacking on invested/available batteries, get jackal, rumani, centi, trina up to speed, can then fix T3

[tropic summit]

T3 is on the weaker side, scrap that one, other 2 teams are ok-ish but would prefer a biscuit over an RH in there

[tidal lichen]

or trina

with some cs on helm

[half garden]

Am I cooking or did I burnt it?

[hollow hazel]

Thanks! I hope this new setup will do better

[arctic jewel]

you're the Attacker right?

[half garden]

I'm trying to make the 3rd def team

[arctic jewel]

aah, I see

honestly, using Scarlet for Defense is a bit iffy nowadays

[half garden]

Any recommendations fory third team?

[arctic jewel]

since the opponent can just counter by using Noah pretty easily

there's other methods as well ofc

[oak hatch]

For third u could use 2 rl nayuta or if u really want scarlet u can play Rosanna with her

For nayuta u would wanna steal helm from other team and use different dps or just use Snow White

[arctic jewel]

Replacing Centi with Trina makes the team even stronger

unless you really want to use Trina elsewhere

[oak hatch]

Why is that? Just curious

[arctic jewel]

not really a big difference between using Trina over Centi, it's just in case Nayuta gets stunned by something like Siren, then Trina's Burst is pretty great. But I can definitely be wrong about this

or am I lost in space? xD

[oak hatch]

Nayuta can’t be stunned there because everyone who use that team needs to know what they’re doing so by having enough cs on ur nikkes, nayuta would be faster than siren. But I think Trina gives a tiny bit more burst gen than centi which can free up a quantum cube in some situations

But yeah since he have Trina why not go for it

[arctic jewel]

oops, I forgot to mention CS

[half garden]

Like this right?

[oak hatch]

2nd team seems a bit slow

[oak hatch]

Lib is not too great for b3 on defense too, use sw

[oak hatch]

Looks good

[oak hatch]

Also in addition to what warheart said about team 3, make sure to use vigor cube on Ada so ur vesti gets the indom

[half garden]

you mean switching trina and centi?

[tiny scroll]

How come I never see Privaty.T used in Def comps? She nukes harder than Libby right and has a stun.

This is what I been using, and it seems OK. But you guys can probably crack it easy.

[glad meteor]

I will crack privaty

[deep raptor]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNDg0MDU1ODcyMTA1MDM2MTAwOQ%3D%3D any recs on a defence team? Was doing Cindy long burst and switching up the other two but it gets cracked eventually. Is Rossana and Nero invested enough to try? Does my Emilia have enough CS?

[ancient sun]

If Helm and Noah burst at the exactly same frame, would Helm’s hit land before Noah’s invuln had taken effect? I believe both of them have 6f delay. I know in case of Nayuta she has priority over Noah but with Helm I have no clue.

[glad meteor]

Noah invul is delayed by 3 frames

So helm would go through

[oak hatch]

Nah my mistake I meant team 1, the teams are fine as it is. Ada needs to have more hp than vesti so that vesti gets blanc buff, this is why u want vigor on Ada

@ancient sun my teams somehow won zero with incredibly bad matchup

[ancient sun]

LMAO

I even betted against you

He might be malding

[oak hatch]

My first time betting against myself too

[whole ocean]

Only whales and those who want the frames care about CA, the rest only Cheer on commander level which has no impact on the battle

[whole ocean]

Congratz! 👏

[oak hatch]

Thx congrats u too

[oak hatch]

Bet against me again cuz the last guy counters me

[ancient sun]

This is why invested BSoda is the goat. Also he shot himself on the leg running Blanc Privaty indom team like that

[umbral belfry]

@placid bloom this is your fault

jk I knew I was gonna lose anyway

[oak hatch]

Yeah I had 0 hope in my sg winning that

[ancient sun]

Looks rough but not completely hopeless.

[placid bloom]

I voted Ace, Idk how you lost to Ace from across the bracket

seem his power so strong he can beat you even without fighting you

[umbral belfry]

[scarlet adder]

blanc burst lvl 10 worth it? right now have it 7

[glad meteor]

For pvp yes

PvE want it at 10 as well. But blanc in raid sometimes a dps loss

[scarlet adder]

i have enough resources for six 10 lvls i think, potentially lib, nayu, blanc, priv and i gues anni nikkes would drain me.

for now i will keep 7 but if i feel like it would make a diff i will push it

[glad meteor]

I mean half anni in a month

Could be triple banner

[scarlet adder]

nahh no way xD

[glad meteor]

[scarlet adder]

next tripple will be matis, but with their hate of missilis i think we will wait more than a year for them

[glad meteor]

Not a big fan of matis

[scarlet adder]

i want anything good for missilis, their tower is the worst

[north brook]

Neo neon going to be missilis hyper dps prob

[scarlet adder]

you can spoil me but isn't she elysion?

[placid bloom]

the first rule of being a spy is to have a fake background

[undone blaze]

This guy in my bracket is #2 but low cp (587k)

Pretty easy, but I need 2 Noahs to win

[north brook]

In her story in chp 44 it was mentioned since she was refitted by missilis she will technically be afilliated to missilis

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/MoiUoJojA_w?si=XGt0jEbC4LN_i6sn

[arctic jewel]

I've had the complete opposite experience xD

Tia/Liter/LaplaceT/Ein/Naga was the team I used against Mother Whale

All the others are either weird or I simply couldn't build them properly

Most trouble with Tetra

[arctic jewel]

We'll see what happens in the new chapters, maybe she'll be associated with Missilis from now on, or maybe Elysion and Missilis has to sort things out

[undone blaze]

If only Noise was a bit more tanky, she died like 1 sec off burst

[crystal flicker]

66 sync diff, done.

No one touches this guy, it's insane

[heady peak]

Who wins this?

[formal quiver]

@wild hemlock

idk baldy's @

[umbral crown]

Imagine missing besto laplace and maxwell

Maxwell gonna be next SnowHA

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mujikcboro-seriymujik-1

[arctic jewel]

Holy schmoly, nicely done!

[wild hemlock]

Pretty sure I win on the right but haven't put anything into nikketop yet

[heady peak]

It looked like a coin flip but maybe im reading it wrong.

[tropic summit]

ye looks passable, run that over the other

[formal quiver]

1 baldy rapu stuns
2 baldy noah blocks
3 boop
4 boop unless the label stuns make timing bad. kinda hard to tell
5 baldy prob again unless label stun timings

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dexter-42

[lavish lintel]

Need help simply cause I am on CP disadvantage, Team isnt strong enough to survive to get all skills launched

[tropic summit]

you've to fix ordering and unit synergy in most teams

T1 what's biscuit doing? nayuta isn't a defender, also team is very slow and punishable
T2 blanc p1, unprotected?
T3 unprotected noah in p1?

[tropic summit]

you need to slot biscuit here, swha on blanc buff should solo that, else you can run with ada

• jackal blanc swha biscuit ada

if you're gapped with the above

• jackal blanc swha biscuit flex

need 1354k CP and you're fine

also don't run treasured centi, you're actively helping enemy team burst faster

lastly, assuming you've a well built vestiTU, she can also be used as indom if she has higher CP and you can then run SWHA as battery instead (or helmT)

if you've ada available, that's suggested as flex

[lavish lintel]

I see

don got ada raised sadly so ill hafta use Vesti

okay lets pray

Darn

[umbral crown]

Jackal got indom?

[lone sequoia]

vesti need more ele dmg to kill noah pre-burst (?)

[tropic summit]

remember to check your links and HP requirements, it looks like you had jackal taking over indom

jackal and linked unit need to have higher HP than your indom target

say you wanna indom vestiTU, SWHA and jackal need to have higher HP than vestiTU (you can enforce this with vigor cube if needed)
you can check links and HP via shooting range

[lone sequoia]

dead vesti probably

[gaunt pulsar]

biscuit looks sus too

who is linked in there

[tropic summit]

nah there's biscuit

he needs to check HP and links imo

[lone sequoia]

mlb biscuit or mlb swha... imagine his vesti doesn't have atk

[lavish lintel]

uhm gonna be hard to try get Vesti hp more than Blanc

[tropic summit]

not gonna

in your case, jackal swha and vestiTU are assumed linked
you need your indom target (vestiTU if you B3 with her) to have lower HP than jackal and SWHA

alternatively use swha as main B3, and use vestiTU as linked unit in p5

then same rule applies

[worthy knoll]

Blanc is not targetted by her own indom, and.. you actually want Vesti as the lowest hp in that team

[tropic summit]

fix HP as needed, use shooting range to test links and HP

blanc is biscuit protected so you don't need to care about her HP regardless

jackal will also stop losing HP after biscuit stack pops on her

your only concern is your indom and link

[worthy knoll]

Even without biscuit, she doesn't indom herself

[tropic summit]

don't confuse him one step at a time

[lavish lintel]

ye this tech is new to me

[tropic summit]

here's a practical example:

• SBS helmT and jackal linked
• helmT and jackal on higher HP than SBS

the above is a biscuitless standard indom, in your case biscuit will ensure p1 and p2 stop taking dmg after biscuit stack makes them invulnerable

which will make only your p3 take dmg in p3 and your p5 distribute dmg with p3

p1 will no longer receive damage as invulnerable

blanc ofc will not share and will be invulnerable

[worthy knoll]

Though there is kinda one worry

Even if Vesti got indomed, will she still have enough damage to outpace HelmT lifesteal?

[tropic summit]

lifesteal is denied, invulnerable unit in p1 won't let them lifesteal until it runs out

[worthy knoll]

With deficit it prolly already run out the moment Noah shield is down

[lone sequoia]

against p2~p5 should be fine (weird cs range is bad news/helmT) moran can be a problem

[tropic summit]

he's not in penalty

[worthy knoll]

Oh I thought he was, I kinda rememeber the statement he was in deficit

[tropic summit]

nah we made sure he's not

[lone sequoia]

no, dead blanc

[worthy knoll]

Still feel it would be like that

[lone sequoia]

the "penalty" was enemy team killing p1~p3 fast

[worthy knoll]

HelmT lifestealing on indom Vesti

Since he has like 2 units that will put Jackal and Blanc into S2 too quickly

[tropic summit]

he can run slow cindy if you wanna mess with CP tetris

[lavish lintel]

Sorry guys but this sort of stuff is too advanced for me

[lone sequoia]

it will depends on vesti dmg after noah burst

[tropic summit]

no it's very simple, just merry making it sound complicated

fix your link and HP then try again

it's literally taking 1 minute of your time to run the team in shooting range and check HP and links (jumping jackal buff)

if you can run vesti you run vesti indom, if you can't you run swha indom

[worthy knoll]

Aye, I hope to goes well then, I'm out

[lone sequoia]

how much ammo vesti have?

[worthy knoll]

Just gonna shut up

[tropic summit]

it may not, but he aint even tried a proper run

give him a chance

[lone sequoia]

i have to keep reading the vn... i hate it

[wild hemlock]

I'll have to check it later on nikketop

[crystal flicker]

Right
Left
Can Nayuta RH wipe both attacker?
Left
Right

[scarlet adder]

RH can't get lib CS buff, can she? i think i heard somewhere she isn't seen as any burst unit

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah she cant

[scarlet adder]

asking cause i wanna put vestitu lib and rh together

[scarlet adder]

thank you

[wild hemlock]

I'm winning 1 for sure. Even if we assume 21% cs on all his units I'm still going to Noah burst before Rapu even if it stuns me

[scarlet adder]

Mary?!

[wild hemlock]

It's soline

[hollow lagoon]

[gaunt pulsar]

they added soline btw

proper one

[wild hemlock]

Yeah wasn't showing on mobile

[crystal flicker]

I've tried similar match up, Rapu aint gonna stun even with burst

[gaunt pulsar]

even without eye icon she is there

[wild hemlock]

Idk didn't show wither way same Gen doesn't matter

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, just saying

[gaunt pulsar]

[wild hemlock]

Mobile isn't showing it but I know it was there on my pc before

[gaunt pulsar]

probably needs update, idk

[wild hemlock]

Yeah probably

[glad meteor]

[scarlet adder]

so nikke top doesn't take into consieration reloading ever? i see this base vesti with 8 ammo doesn't care here ;D not that i say they should, just something i saw for the first time

[versed mesa]

No one has attempted to attack me in SP

What is this sorcery?

[tropic summit]

lemme hop on and change that

[versed mesa]

My main rival failed me! He lost his top 4 match

Rip my credits

Should have gone with my gut and vote for the winner of last season

[gritty ridge]

Lemme in👉 👈

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/bedtime-chander-friends-come-here-gif-26487587

[gritty ridge]

Im a very nice fellow in spa i swear

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-are-u-sre-abt-that-discord-gif-19727169

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tobiichi-origami-anime

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-gif-24189318

[deep raptor]

Better? How does the Lib team improve, I know the others pretty template.

[unique wagon]

What are you doing @whole ocean is that u

[whole ocean]

Yeah that's me, one and only

Oh I am watching Twitch streams if that's what you are asking

[versed mesa]

I always wonder how some people are several levels higher in commander levels, even if we all started on the same day

I know it doesn't really affect anything progress wise but just an odd thing

[tropic summit]

the SWHA team:
ok team but remove RH for something actually useful in there (biscuit/siren/trina)

the noise team:
to be scrapped, solo noise B1 in p1... centi B2 which is really bad and a liberalio B3 which take 1RL to land and without anti nuke or indom... there's no synergy at all in this

the vestiTU indom team:
add at least a backup B3 (ada, xmaiden, laplaceT or similar)

refer to these to make it easier for you to build:
#pvp-arena message

[whole ocean]

Whaled to push hard campaign early and skipped all of the story

[versed mesa]

Oh wait do the outpost levels also affect the commander xp? That would explain it then

[whole ocean]

But I like the story so I am ok with that

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit thank you for vesti suggestion, i also added lib for her to get CS buff and it worked like a charm.

[versed mesa]

I didn't really push outpost levels properly in the start since I never expected to stick around with the game beyond like a few days or maybe a week. Yet here I am 3.5 years later

Didn't even really think about it or know that the outpost levels would be such a boon

[whole ocean]

I think it was the Overzone that was the turning point that prevented mass quitting

[versed mesa]

I like how people consider Overzone such a good event, yet I didn't even really pay attention to it when it happened

[silent torrent]

Is there a more "recent" team database for arena? I was trying to get a better idea for some more comps than the few ones I do know about but sites prdwen and nikkegg seem decently oudated when it comes to this specifically

[tropic summit]

keripo is working on a new video that will showcase a lot of updated info in 2026 and recent meta, up until then you can refer to this

https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist

it doesn't cover SWHA, liberalio, nayuta, vestiTU, but it covers all of the other pvp core units

as for prydwen, the pvp tierlist was updated recently and it is for the most part accurate, especially from SSS to A rank

as for when it comes to teams, meta hasn't drammatically changed, these are the "new" teams you should know

#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

it's updated version of stalls, early pressure, indoms and unique variants (absolute, slow cindy, soline-rapunzel)

scarlet, cindy and ein 2RL got mitigated/nerfed when used on defense due to label

[silent torrent]

woah, thanks a lot for the detailed reply mate

I'll check the video out when it releases

[lunar pawn]

1st successful this season

keripo about to be the 1st player with 10 wins too?

Idk how it is in global/sea/jp/kr/cn atm

[lone sequoia]

i remember something about someone with like 13 wins

[gaunt pulsar]

jp had 10 for a while i think, like literally first, not sure who was second global or sea, but global has 2 players with 10+ at this point

[lunar pawn]

From day 1 servers too?

[gaunt pulsar]

nah

[lone sequoia]

probably not

[lunar pawn]

Figures lol

[gaunt pulsar]

day 1 on global is full of 🧱 i would imagine

[lone sequoia]

global have many whales in newer brackets, they win because recycling room lvls, some have interesting teams

jp is full whale, hard to tell if a day 1 player have that many wins, unless they are really lucky to be in a league where people is pve main

[fast marsh]

Hi I’m a pretty new player still well it’s almost been a month I was wondering what should my composition for rookie an special arena should be

[compact ore]

@sturdy peak i have a proposal for you in our pvp bracket

[cobalt lotus]

@oak hatch Where did you get that picture? I'm a bit surprised because that is my CA deck and all numbers are exactly the same in every digit lol (in : #pvp-arena message)

[lunar pawn]

could make a SG team with like drake ether neon etc
moran team
high dps team, could protect a defender with biscuit in p1

[fast marsh]

Ah thank you thank you what about Special arena?

[charred quail]

Spa cook?

[oak hatch]

I have an NA account that I haven’t used since Doro banner, was curious how difficult the CA bracket on it was compared to global bracket so I recorded and sent to a friend

Are u the player that runs the ein indom team?

[cobalt lotus]

yeah

[oak hatch]

Ah I took pictures of ur team because I thought u were the strongest one there

[lunar pawn]

was talking about SPA, for rookie you can throw smth like moran manchor biscuit drake anis

[oak hatch]

I don’t think the others have much chance lol

[cobalt lotus]

haha