pvp-arena

[whole ocean]

I know, I saw something similar but blanc died before buscuit invuln so I could not use it as example

[arctic jewel]

Lel, Rumani built different

[whole ocean]

All good found it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFo1lQ-bpo0&t=96s

[crystal flicker]

Ammo issue from VesT lol

[glad meteor]

My boy

[unique wagon]

How to beat Noah Biscu TVesti Rapu SWHA?

Moran Lib Blanc Centi Jackal

Idk how fast that second team is, Moran might aggro Helm's Burst...

And I can't tell who's gonna get linked

[crystal flicker]

Moran Lib linked

[unique wagon]

Says who

[crystal flicker]

Defender all has same stat, Moran is more likely to link since ppl started build her ATK ELE for raids

[unique wagon]

More likely isn't an assumption I want to make.

[gaunt pulsar]

@whole ocean https://youtu.be/ZAfjtdVG4uU the best I could do to get 2nd stun as close as possible to burst timing with added advantage of making them slightly faster, so there is a chance with that against just solo noah, but it was against moran too and on deficit so my swha could die though relying on those chances to get stun like that in CA is a little

[unique wagon]

My plan is to Blanc the Noah team, but what's the best comp for it?

[unique wagon]

@tropic summit

If I do SWHA Blanc RH Jack will I win?

Hmm, risky cus Blanc is Wind hmm...

Is Jack Blanc SWHA Jack Ada?

Biscu*

[whole ocean]

Thanks this could work as you said vs Noise noah comps

[crystal flicker]

@arctic jewel

[arctic jewel]

Yeah I was just gonna say

[unique wagon]

Is Noah Biscu TVesti Rapu SWHA 2 RL guys?

[arctic jewel]

I'm honestly baffled how my Noah team can win against Scarlet/Soda

[unique wagon]

Surely someone rmbs and I dont have to Nikke deck it

[crystal flicker]

I would've won if I use Moran Nero smh

[unique wagon]

Ig no one remembers

[arctic jewel]

Where? On T2?

[unique wagon]

Id assume 2 RL

[crystal flicker]

It's RL whiff

[unique wagon]

And Moran Lib Blanc Centi Jack shud be 2.5-3 RL

I will consider using Privaty

Or u know just Scar it lmao

[gaunt pulsar]

looking at shot timings, and with no quantum on team there is chance that label with get stunned right on the mark of 3rl shot hitting, probably slightly earlier due to cs on units, but ideally for that you need p2 label so smg/mg etc dont reach her and alot of but getting hit like that at p3 is impossible, vesti shots dont align with timing

[crystal flicker]

T5

[arctic jewel]

I honestly don't have anything to say, but I completely understand if you're frustrated, I kinda feel that I robbed that somehow

[crystal flicker]

Nah

I get used to this lmao

[unique wagon]

I need Soda

[unique wagon]

That team 1... I just wanna Soda it

[whole ocean]

Well CA is mostly rng so that's a risk I will have to take

[quick lake]

what a sweep

[unique wagon]

Good job whale

[arctic jewel]

Like, ofc I'm happy that I advanced to Top 8 for the first time, but it just doesn't feel right, honestly

[unique wagon]

(nice Drake pfp)

[gaunt pulsar]

also nikke top assumes that label shoots without interruption (stun is energy gen loss), so that team might be even slower than 2.5 anyway

[whole ocean]

Thanks, I am actually looking into being dolphin now so gonna skip the rock packs

[unique wagon]

I see

But once a whale forever a whale sorry request denied

[arctic jewel]

@crystal flicker Next time you got this! 💪

[whole ocean]

Ok it was a cute skin for Vesti how can I say no

[unique wagon]

I never asked u to say no

I only said once ure a whale u cant be a dolph-

[whole ocean]

True, I might whale again once the new Matis units come

[worthy knoll]

Just Siren stun Noah then nuke them 🤔

[whole ocean]

Oh I was joking I should of added an emoji for context sorry

[crystal flicker]

Nah, I probably need to build VesT absolute if I want to win CA lmao

[arctic jewel]

Maybe? I dunno, I'm thinking the same thing, but I need to know how much I have to build the necessary Nikkes before I make any decisions

[crystal flicker]

same

[crystal flicker]

Also whats your Noah comp cs

[arctic jewel]

9.55%

Why do you ask?

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Don't worry even if you built it you would still lose.

[umbral belfry]

@dense kindle

[arctic jewel]

If I'm allowed to say anything, I'm not exactly the best PvP player here, but I think the best thing for us low level players to do, is to try increasing the CP and stats for key Nikkes and make small changes for your current teams

what I noticed with PvP is that it's so incredibly hard to spend resources on so many things

[swift mango]

The best thing you could do is whaling.

[arctic jewel]

well yeah, that's a given

[swift mango]

[arctic jewel]

Shift Up wants us to spend money after all

[swift mango]

Whaling and they will give you match up luck buff as well.

Ofc you need to whale more than everyone else.

[lunar pawn]

and I'm not even trying to get the loser frame

[crystal flicker]

My Scarlet dies before burst, so they clearly whiffed and making the gen < 100%

They all have 18% CS

[brazen pilot]

ur supposed to root for me >:(

also there's a loser frame?

[lunar pawn]

changed my vote to you then

[crystal flicker]

The good thing about being a loser, I can enjoy this song and feel like a Villain

[lunar pawn]

lucky and unlucky

[brazen pilot]

pretty sure ive got this one 👍

[lunar pawn]

[umbral belfry]

blue better

[hollow lagoon]

@arctic jewel

[hollow lagoon]

Arcana hime is superior

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

Hime did you see the good news?

[umbral belfry]

what's up

[umbral belfry]

the end of an era of no lapT

[gritty ridge]

I pulled her and noise last night

Game told me to go back to pvp

[umbral belfry]

bigboi back in ca

[quick lake]

new pvp update wen

[lone sequoia]

2 more weeks... probably (to get the same old meta since cindy banner)

[worthy knoll]

When April 1 hits the player's timezone

[swift mango]

Unlucky and less unlucky

[undone blaze]

Is Vesti strong enough to be the main burster or should it still be Rapi until I get more attack on Vesti? Or is her AOE good enough to surpass Rapi?

[arctic jewel]

I watched game 2 recently, and yeah, that's what happened

Anyway, new season, new mindset, better upgrades, you'll get me next time!

[lone sequoia]

AoE better than snipe, but depends in what team synergy you want or what are you attacking, finish OL and skills first...

[undone blaze]

Vesti is 7/10/9, working on her OL, but...rng

[arctic jewel]

I appreciate the cheer, but... do you really think I'll win? xD

[hollow lagoon]

bro cheer

shrug is shrug

[arctic jewel]

[austere marsh]

Oh well. At least I made it to top 16

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/yw5RfxLfg1Y?si=pJLsqsQNHDJLuNiT

[umbral crown]

Strong

[unique wagon]

Nice pfp

[restive heart]

[gaunt pulsar]

well at least he still whaling for something better than place in spa and permanent

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[unique wagon]

:arcana

Oh no theres no Arcana emote

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

mine now

[hollow lagoon]

How did you know I’m small

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

just for that

kiss your rocks goodbye

[hollow lagoon]

Didn’t have any

Take them all u want

Arcana is cute anyway

u cant hurt me if i enjoy the pain

where's @tropic summit

i need professional opnion on voting with the crowd or vote @arctic jewel for bro support

[candid knoll]

[radiant fox]

guys, I need some defense team inspiration.
this is my current team, it managed to hold them of so far but they finally cracked the code

[hollow lagoon]

[candid knoll]

[hollow lagoon]

that team 1 needs work

team 2 blanc p2 yikes

team 3 noah p2 rough

[radiant fox]

your suggestions sir ?

[hollow lagoon]

have u emilia?

[radiant fox]

assume I have every nikkes

[hollow lagoon]

u have emilia then

[radiant fox]

yes

[tropic summit]

they're probably from your mom

https://klipy.com/gifs/laplace-nikke

you won 2 fights, you already did well enough

[tropic summit]

keep testing things out

[tropic summit]

under your bed

[gritty ridge]

Im so happy to have her now

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-anime-1

[hollow lagoon]

try dis cursed tech

[arctic jewel]

Jackal/VestiTU/(XMaiden or Centi)/Blanc/Ada is pretty strong

[tropic summit]

moran noah biscuit swha emilia
jackal vesti xmaiden blanc ada
nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT (quantum 7 on centi and laplaceT)

[arctic jewel]

Oh, ok, I was a bit too slow

[radiant fox]

thank you, kind sirs, I'll try all 3 of them

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon i ate sushi at lunch, i'm still thirsty hours later

good shiet tho

takoyaki are to die for

[hollow lagoon]

[arctic jewel]

Sushi is somewhat salty, or at least you become thirsty, especially if you used soy

[tropic summit]

ye soysauce is one of my favs

inevitable with the harumakis

[shell hazel]

and where is mine?

[arctic jewel]

Ye, I love sushi

[hollow lagoon]

i like sushi

[arctic jewel]

Although, I have started to prefer Poke Bowls

[tropic summit]

gonna have some ramen probably end of week or start of next week

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[arctic jewel]

Or not prefer, more like current preference

[tropic summit]

i'm half tempted to make my own but they'll never be as good

[arctic jewel]

Ugh... bad grammar xD

[hollow lagoon]

sushi?

[tropic summit]

bet @hollow lagoon can make some ramen

[shell hazel]

it turns out Railtracer was evil all along and was witholding all the food

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

u sort of buy soup base and just do it kek, it aint hard

[tropic summit]

if anything i ate so much at lunch i may aswell skip dinner or just make some soup

[arctic jewel]

Rail is secretly Snow White

[hollow lagoon]

if u feel fancy u can boil some pork to enhance the flavour

[tropic summit]

yeeee but i feel like the meat and noodles won't be as good

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

the real good places you cant beat it

but that place me and my friend have a year cool down on that shit

we literal only go once a year

[arctic jewel]

I feel like getting the soupbase or the broth is the hardest part

[tropic summit]

there's a place around 15-20 min car drive that is fairly decent

but a bowl of ramen you pay like 15-20 euros

still worth the price at least out of quality but dayum

[lusty gull]

[tropic summit]

been to some other ramen place with my brother in milan and that one was damn fine quality

[arctic jewel]

pvp-arena -> cooking-arena

[tropic summit]

chefs were actually japanese

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/castorice-honkai-star-rail-7

[tropic summit]

those were the ones you ordered?

[hollow lagoon]

ya they dont look much but thous are some of the best i had in my life lel

1 year cool down tho

[tropic summit]

they look very filling at least, that's a ton of stuff in it

[hollow lagoon]

its super greasy but the soup is very very rich kek, i go with my friend every first snow fall of the winter

[arctic jewel]

I was just gonna say, I prefer when there's a bit of green colored veggies there, but that soupbase looks really good, especially the one on left

[hollow lagoon]

oh we order greens on the side

[arctic jewel]

👀

[hollow lagoon]

prob die from the energy density if ate in summer lul

[tropic summit]

sounds about right

but ye i'm still filled af, gonna make some soup

aint seeing fish for a while

[arctic jewel]

You can basically say that about almost any dish, except something lighter like salad xD

[arctic jewel]

Soup is very underrated

[tropic summit]

my go to meal when i'm lazy or not too hungry

[hollow lagoon]

For reference this looks better but don’t taste as good @arctic jewel @tropic summit

[arctic jewel]

Yeah that looks way better

[tropic summit]

@arctic jewel simple and good enough

you can add a bit of cheese or veggies to it

[arctic jewel]

Oh? Pasta?

[hollow lagoon]

like 7/10 vs 9/10 level of difference in terms of taste tho

[tropic summit]

ye it's called minestrina

[tropic summit]

oh looks nice

@hollow lagoon when/if you make your own ramen take a pic of it

[arctic jewel]

Although I have to say that the previous red-ish soupbase looked really good

[arctic jewel]

Oh right! Forgot the name. Honestly, there's just so many different names for each pasta I just keep forgetting

I only remember spaghetti for... obvious reasons

[hollow lagoon]

soup noodle wise i\m kind on the not do it often kind of deal

it dosnt go with my hand-pulled noodles as well

[arctic jewel]

Tonkotsu? Or what meat is that on the left?

[tropic summit]

surprisingly doesn't look cursed? actually looks good

[arctic jewel]

Yeah it looks great!

[radiant fox]

@hollow lagoon is it better if my team is on 2.5RL instead of 3 ?

[hollow lagoon]

When I hand pull noodles I don’t make it soupy

[hollow lagoon]

scarlet dies making u 2rl

[tropic summit]

you need 30%ish to sacc to 2RL, looks perfect, you hit burst as soon as scarlet is sacc'ed

although emilia as main B3 kinda sucky for that

you'd want instant nuker or something that punishes as soon as you procc sacc

sacc emilia instead of scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

yeah but

scar dies better with the sucidal ness

[radiant fox]

ye, I guess witch's plan is for Ros and Nay do the whole things

[tropic summit]

sort of, but not punishing enough

scarlet + ros + nayuta, now that's punishing

[arctic jewel]

What are you against?

[tropic summit]

emilia as B3 just stops attacking and charges

kinda goes against the logic of snowballing via sacc

[radiant fox]

how about this ?

[tropic summit]

still too slow, lib takes 1RL to land

[radiant fox]

dang

[tropic summit]

just invert emi and scarlet and it's decent

[radiant fox]

it's for defense

[arctic jewel]

😋💦

[radiant fox]

I'll bet on my ros and nay first, If I still lose then I'll try your suggestion

[tropic summit]

if it works all the better regardless

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1

[river dune]

This isn't working

[tropic summit]

is that an indow swha? make them misindom with

noah biscuit helmt siren swha

[river dune]

Thanks

[tropic summit]

need 1685k CP with the above

[glass wing]

Hello, need help

[tropic summit]

run these

[versed mesa]

Do any of you guys ever alter your attack teams, or do you just keep the same, if opponent hasn't changed their defense, other than maybe synchrod up a level or two?

So only changing if the counter you have doesn't win for some reason?

[gritty ridge]

I run what works

If it stops working I change it

[glass wing]

Thx

[scarlet adder]

do you think scar outspeeds that bay in 4th and wins?

[coarse lake]

outspeed bay yes, win? no, xmaiden sweeps regardless

[scarlet adder]

won't she just die to scar burst?

[coarse lake]

she'll have moran dmg reduction

would need a crit

[scarlet adder]

she will also get hit by ros before that

and swha will hit everyone

[coarse lake]

sw might not die to rosa, but will die to nuke that happens after rosa snipe

regardless she's not bursting

which one is attacking

[scarlet adder]

bottom is attacking

aa wait maiden is defender so she might not be hit by ros

hmmm

[tropic summit]

if the enemy team hasn't changed, unless you want to test something, run the same team as long as it's a consistent win

in general what you want to change is defense, attack only if you actually need to match the right counter

[versed mesa]

Yeah that's what I've been doing, just wondering if others try other stuff

[tropic summit]

think they will if they need the experience

they probably won't if they're fairly seasoned

[versed mesa]

Btw Rail I've been running this, sometimes Biscuit dies before Noah bursts. I tend to win but have also lost this match up occasionally. Any tips on moving Biscuit, or is there a chance that Lib dies?

My other two match ups win, but I always try to go for the full sweep if possible

I think the rare loss here or there was probably more of a lucky crit though than Biscuit dying.

[scarlet adder]

she is 107k cp 😄 does it change anything?

tbf scar is 135k

and blue doll

[coarse lake]

then moran one more likely to win

[scarlet adder]

maiden is blue doll and 107k to be precise

[coarse lake]

surely that blue doll scar isn't properly ol'ed and skilled...

[scarlet adder]

no no no

[tropic summit]

noah moran biscuit lib helmt

you only need to hit B3 to win, keep noah and moran invulnerable and remove noise imo

[scarlet adder]

scar is 135, rest is about maiden

[tropic summit]

moran will still mitigate nayuta enough for you to land lethal B3

[coarse lake]

then idk, harder to tell

[scarlet adder]

scar has SR15

[coarse lake]

sw chip + scar might be enough to kill maiden

[versed mesa]

I'll give it a whirl, cheers

[scarlet adder]

ok i will risk it with scar winning this and will let you know after who won

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit Much cleaner match 3 with Moran I promise one day I'll get a vid

[shell hazel]

replay button bottom left bro :p

[arctic jewel]

I'm pretty sure I'm the Attacker (and my teams are below)

[versed mesa]

I only have it on quick battle, didn't think to film bro

[shell hazel]

even on quick battle replay bottom left exists

no excuse!

[noble python]

Bro made the no 1 PVP mistake always turn quick battle off in SPA so you can learn what happened if you fail

[versed mesa]

No I did normal battle this time, there literally is no replay button for me on that

I have no idea why

[hollow lagoon]

i dont research its bro moment or cash moment

[arctic jewel]

but what if you're in a hurry? 😛

[versed mesa]

I don't have obs just on all the time

[shell hazel]

nvidia app has record on demand

[arctic jewel]

maybe I should learn from you and have the same mindset 🙂

[noble python]

Then you shouldn’t even be doing SPA if your in a hurry XD

Bc your more likely to fail from time pressure

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-dangerously-gif-20939086

[arctic jewel]

goated movies

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-austin-powers-dr-evil-mini-me-thug-life-gif-19285555

Rival was last online 3 hours ago, reset in less than 15 minutes, bets on if he will log in right around 5 minutes before and snipe me?

[hollow lagoon]

what's the point of sniping right before reset

as if people dont just o u attacked cooooollll......

like yeah he can make u waste a try i guess but it means u milked him for 3 hours

[versed mesa]

Neither one of us gems, whichever has the higher rank after reset gets to save tickets for defense

[arctic jewel]

using gems in Rookie... cringe

[hollow lagoon]

i gem in rookie

once in a while

[versed mesa]

There was a time in Rookie that I gemmed, until I realised it's dumb and stopped

[arctic jewel]

oh? to see how a matchup works?

[hollow lagoon]

like today when i hit the top 3 people

but 2 guys got hit 2x one guy only 1 x

i'm like mmm ocd demands me violate all 3 of you the same amount

usually i just hit top 5 once each

but some how i cant this time

i only get the top 3

[shell hazel]

time to gem

[hollow lagoon]

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[shell hazel]

you're not zanta though, zanta would gem it

[hollow lagoon]

there is this 38X dude that hangs around with the 46X-44X bracket of mine, i try to hot hit him

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-mario-time-to-restore-balance-infinity-gauntlet-balance-gif-26286803

[versed mesa]

Are you sure? What if Zanta and I are the same person?

It's all been a ruse all this time

[hollow lagoon]

now

if u and i are the same person you would be in my union

[shell hazel]

you not enough sir

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I can tell

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-14822447985008832319

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/death-note-keikaku-dori-keikaku-dori-death-gif-19559967

[hollow lagoon]

rapid fire indom or rosa poke

is of my opnion

or a biscuit boosted moran set with life leech?

[tidal lichen]

mirror but swap helm with ada or smth

[tropic summit]

water codes, rosanna breakfast right there

[oak hatch]

Did u make top 8? @arctic jewel

[lone sequoia]

vesti alone win if you kill blanc

[tidal lichen]

@tropic summit how would u triple this

ada linked

[hollow lagoon]

vesti indom on ada for t1, rosa poke for t2, noah 3rl with defenders wins t3

[glad meteor]

Im not rail san but
Jackal vesti ada indom vs t1
Rapu scar soline vs t2
Noise noah vs t3

[glad meteor]

There’s 3 b3 in t2 tho

[shell hazel]

how do we know you're not Rail san?

[tidal lichen]

i think moran survives vesti cuz bisc will be after noah

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-403140411062093680

[glad meteor]

Rip

[forest zodiac]

vigor, tempering and enduring are all 6 level
which cube help survive longer?

tempering?

[hollow lagoon]

gamba gamba, wonder if its possible to sac rosa into a privity stun for good measure, prob too hard

[versed mesa]

Yoo April fools is agooooo

[tidal lichen]

ada gets indom if vesti and helm die no?

[hollow lagoon]

ye

[glad meteor]

With jackal blanc vesti ada lapT. Can trigger biscuit s2 pre burst. But depends if you have dmg later

[shell hazel]

[tidal lichen]

my ada is built enough to 1tap

[tidal lichen]

trina prevents that no?

[versed mesa]

🍌

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

mine aint

[glad meteor]

Second LapT shot + vesti shots shud go through right

[tidal lichen]

it's my def and it's holding for some reason.

[hollow lagoon]

i just dont interact with that team

[glad meteor]

But depends on cs

[shell hazel]

[tidal lichen]

ayo what the hell

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

Yes I did, although I feel liked I robbed Rin

[shell hazel]

[arctic jewel]

She's so unbelievably hot

[tidal lichen]

would.

[glad meteor]

Too beeg

[shell hazel]

would.

[arctic jewel]

Btw, when I said "using gems" I meant spending 1900 gems one day

[lone sequoia]

i really hate this events, 0 rocks as always

[shell hazel]

damn the banana

🍌

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

i do not...

[glad meteor]

My innocent shifty, stop

[hollow lagoon]

where 's the shifty feet pic when you need it

[glad meteor]

In my head

[hollow lagoon]

[oak hatch]

Congrats! I only took a quick look at the matchup and I guess u proved me wrong

[arctic jewel]

Yeah, my well built Noah and somewhat defensive Laplace (she does have at least 1 Def line) carried me

[hollow lagoon]

@glad meteor @shell hazel whoe does she have nihilister vibes

[oak hatch]

I hope u win this ca, u so close

[glad meteor]

i dont see nihilister, this shifty kinda too thirsty

[shell hazel]

warheart for champ!

[arctic jewel]

don't get my hopes too high 😭 ❤️

[gaunt pulsar]

i was completely sure it's someone's quick edit until i pressed

[shell hazel]

it's bananas isn't it?

[surreal fable]

Will this work?

Heres team 1

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe I’ll defeat @tropic summit one day

[brazen ledge]

hi guys, i'd need new def teams pls old ones don't hold anymore pls

[hollow tulip]

Maybe just having a tad bit of trouble on mobile

[tropic summit]

T1 jackal-vesti-ada (indom vesti)
T2 ros to misindom jackal, must not lethal jackal
T3 any 2RL nuke / anti nuke

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/get-away-from-me-my-dress-up-darling

[tropic summit]

T2 your noah is very dead in T2, unsure if she reaches B2
T1 you generally don't wanna run swha against scarlet, although this one could remotively work

give your noah biscuit and run jackal indom with a non water code indom to fix both teams

[shell hazel]

Rail where is my pizza?

[tropic summit]

11:25PM pizza?

pretty wild

[shell hazel]

bring it

https://tenor.com/view/im-ready-lets-go-jog-excited-kanna-kamui-gif-14525315

[surreal fable]

Their t1 is 2.5rl burst

But it was weird, they didnt even burst

[shell hazel]

execution squad retro style

[surreal fable]

I hit before I saw your reply

[shell hazel]

noise is their only b1 so if sg's kill it then gg lol

[surreal fable]

Like an hour ago

T2 is easy if t1 cp gap isnt too high

I literally had to try to keep cp deficit low

T2 i got lucky ig, it was like this before

Then I tried moran cos if both moran live then I have extra dmg from blanc and vesti

Replaced vesti with sbs cos she has higher cp, then I just died lol

I underestimated ele advantage

[arctic jewel]

you know what the worst part of this event is?

That Mekami Shifty isn't recruitable

🍌

[shell hazel]

🍌

[tropic summit]

ye ele weakness on high damage dealers is fearsome

[raven plover]

you guys have ele?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-572

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-spy-x-family-anime-anya-crying-crying-crying-anime-girl-spy-x-family-gif-25998648

[surreal fable]

Not sure if it wouldve changed if I had vesti in stead

[surreal fable]

Worst part of this game is syuen and shifty are not playable

[tropic summit]

🍌

[shell hazel]

🍌

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel now this is the surface content we needed

[arctic jewel]

🍌

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel feels like we had this topic not too long ago

[arctic jewel]

She ain't wrong though

[tropic summit]

aye

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

this is legit the most impressed i've been with SU

why they put so much effort in nonsense and it actually turns out better than most of the other gameplay available

pure comedy gold

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-gif-22919457

[arctic jewel]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

you know that i know that you know that i know

[glad meteor]

My innocente shifty defiled

[tropic summit]

you can(t) fix her

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor take the chance to clear zizx with chibis

[glad meteor]

It went away after one go

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

I missed a mmast burst again

It’s do able but its shit

Slight timing changes

[tropic summit]

believe in the kara

[glad meteor]

My moran only ph2 as well

This bum can’t cover

[shell hazel]

+1

[glad meteor]

Cost me

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit I gave laplace her base ol

Guess the rolls

[glad meteor]

4x hit rate

[gritty ridge]

Close

[tropic summit]

black line hit rate

[tropic summit]

actually half decent

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Im becoming a cs merchant

Apparently

[shell hazel]

these are all lucky initial rolls 😄

[tropic summit]

you can have my CS%, i'll take the 🍌

[umbral crown]

Like last time durint interception like 1 or 2 years ago

[shell hazel]

🍌

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Second hit blocked by trina against scar. Be the reason you lose ca. trust

[umbral crown]

I was able to get stage 9 back then

[tropic summit]

make chibi permanent or toggleable

[umbral crown]

Lets goo

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shirosaki-hana-anime-nod

[gritty ridge]

Hehe

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

what's that T3

[gritty ridge]

You made the teams rail

[tropic summit]

ye but swap centi and blanc

[gritty ridge]

Ah, good idea

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

while waiting for april every year 😄

[tropic summit]

the only thing that sucks about this event is that we need to wait another 365 days for next episode

[shell hazel]

and mekami shifty not perma 🙁

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/punya-gw

also pretty wild what they made her say

[gritty ridge]

We also did it to helm

Canon

[tropic summit]

🍌

[gaunt pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/iroha-bust-blue-archive-gif-1719083090359870067

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Bigboi wanna get dynoed

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

Dyno is my friend, and ao are the mods

You can ask em

[umbral crown]

[tulip quest]

wtf?

K

[carmine pond]

Thank you guys

[tulip quest]

5 Rock day yey

[tulip quest]

shooting range is pure chaos

[carmine pond]

yOUR OPEN TABS ARE PURE CHAOS

Sorry, caps

[tulip quest]

no problem

I'am forgetful so I just stack Tabs of what I wanna do next otherwise I just forget about it

[raven flume]

i get the feeling u then forget about what they're there for

[tulip quest]

to be honest I have no idea what some of them are anymore

[raven flume]

[swift mango]

You can still reset 2 for free

[tulip quest]

ya ady did that

Mekami shifty hits like Nayuta but faster

on burst

[swift mango]

Dayum that's 1203k gem saved

They should make chibi toggle perna

[tulip quest]

nikke 2 registration 2036 lel

[swift mango]

On the spirit of April fool I spent around 20 rocks on Nayuta and got back 2 ATK. I should have spent 30+ rocks on her now.

Now she is stronger in 2rl Nayuta but bricked for slow Cindy against Rosa. If only my biscuit is still 40% atk

Losing 1 Ele though

At least her CP is okay to use in SpA now

[tulip quest]

that nayuta looks chaotic

[swift mango]

I'm not spending 200 rocks on her.

[raven plover]

spend 300 then

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[tulip quest]

Rock RNG is Skill issue

[swift mango]

Got 3 1-line on first roll so I had to spend rock to CP pad.

[umbral crown]

1 more level for the boost

wonder if cp gonna be 4.1 or 4.2

[strong hull]

[covert lintel]

My scar won't escape from max ammo no matter what

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Scarlet? She wants 50-60% anyway.

48.9% is 50%

Commander was too spineless, could just slap that ass at the end since it's already done.

[swift mango]

I don't remember but was it scarlet? It's kinda late to start rolling for her now. Might as well just save rock. But slot 2 ammo at 50% is better if you wanted to keep rolling

[covert lintel]

I have one other line that has 60% but in the middle

[onyx scaffold]

cook 3 teams please

[lunar pawn]

what can the CN girl do

and is she a clip rl

[onyx scaffold]

she is bad in pvp

[lunar pawn]

siren isn't out yet right?

[onyx scaffold]

not yet

b1

b2

i think b2 is the issue

team 1: blanc
team 2: noah
team 3 ??

[gritty ridge]

What does that fox thing do

[onyx scaffold]

idrk

[lunar pawn]

you can run scarlet xanne in one team

[gritty ridge]

X.anne cooking

[quick lake]

we need the fullscreen

[swift mango]

What's 3rd line? ATK as well?

[swift mango]

The counter already left, he could lock the door and slap her full screen with his stick.

[covert lintel]

Yeah, same as yesterday
That was scar's ol line

[swift mango]

I mean you have 2 piece with ATK slot 3, Ammo slot 2?

R.I.P.

[covert lintel]

No, the other one is crit rate ammo and ED

But ammo is in the middle

[swift mango]

Like I said, it's too late to roll for scarlet now. She is about to drop to S tier. But you could either keep ammo and Ele for PvE. Or reroll and drop them.

[covert lintel]

I just want another crit or ed for the boot

[swift mango]

Keep rolling I guess. Only that piece is left.

[swift mango]

And don't hope for quick success of 2 line at once.
If you got good line 1 or 2 just get it. Especially line 2.
If you don't need to discard Hite rate you could actually lock it too. So more chance of not getting ammo

[unique wagon]

Scarlet is still insane for ATK ngl

instant wipes are so underrated

even SAnis wipes faster sometimes

than SWHA or Lib

I think SAnis still deserves S

[crystal flicker]

SAnis worst enemy is taunter

[unique wagon]

3/3 baby

Lets see how long I can survive without PvP units

You see, I just need TVesti and my PvP feels ok

I have everything I need

Might be forced to OL Laplus for Missilis Tower but maybe Neon is Missilis?

We'll see about Rosanna

Seems like a key def unit but... Well she needs too much investment for my liking

I wonder if 7 7 7 random OL will work lmao

[raven plover]

what the helly 82% ele

[unique wagon]

Normal if u do electric SR

[unique wagon]

Investing in electric SR = investing in PvP

Bro Nayuta 45% atk is wild

My Nayuta is like a wiper on her own

SS deserved tbh

[covert lintel]

What's hit rate for
Ammo can still be useful for pve, but hit rate?

[unique wagon]

Free indom P1 that actually buffs and damages

[covert lintel]

To fight off label's protection for water

[raven plover]

[crystal flicker]

Ma man

[gritty ridge]

Why would neon be missilis

[unique wagon]

Label protection for what

[swift mango]

Help you core hit better.

[gritty ridge]

If she changes from elysion I assume they'd make her a pilgrim cuz its a DEEP body not a missilis body

[gritty ridge]

I dont like this scar

[unique wagon]

Investing in Scar in 2026?

I also realized Scar burst gen is what makes her the best instant wipe

[swift mango]

No ammo and too much Ele.
Kinda usable but can't be called good.

[crystal flicker]

She's still Elec DPS for me (Ein Cindy no Ele)

[unique wagon]

Does TVesti have instant wipe or its just delayed hit

[gritty ridge]

Kinda both

[crystal flicker]

VesT with absolute is just instant wipe form basic atk

[swift mango]

Cindy should still deal more dmg on Elec weak boss even with no Ele.

[covert lintel]

People will use label and B3 water to fight scar, but it won't work on my scar

[unique wagon]

that makes TVesti very important for my attack kit

[crystal flicker]

It's for PvP
Unless I found a way to not use her on P1 in a Jackaless comp

[gritty ridge]

Why use label when you can use bay

[unique wagon]

Label + Doll is 95% DR though, are u Blancing?

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

There is a way

Also you still need ammo for pvp

[spiral onyx]

Meanwhile my Scarlet just be like:

[gritty ridge]

I dont like your scar either

[swift mango]

Well, no ammo could actually win you some match up.

[covert lintel]

No i use trina

[gritty ridge]

Better to have 60% for more dmg

[crystal flicker]

Yes, but I'm also trying to take advantage vs 18% cs

[swift mango]

Well, in your smol bracket it's probably better to have ammo. Because I doubt your enemy has 18-21% often.

[covert lintel]

It's rare for you to not have black line

[spiral onyx]

What are you talking about, I rarely have black lines, let alone blue lol

[crystal flicker]

Last night my 18% CS whiffed against 9% Noah

[gritty ridge]

[spiral onyx]

Y'all 1000% overestimate my OL lines

[unique wagon]

What match up? Siren match ups?

[swift mango]

His research level and max core are black lines.

[unique wagon]

Yeah I know you use the power of WALLET and SYNC

and MAX CORES

[brazen ledge]

hi guys, i'd need new def teams pls old ones don't hold anymore pls

[spiral onyx]

I have many units with the right OL lines but few units with actually min maxed OL lines

[covert lintel]

So that's the secret of having 200k cp in ca

[swift mango]

Nah, RL with 18-21% CS would bullet whiff on 20 ammo Scar sometime. Ended up making the team no longer 2rl to block scarlet slash for example.

[spiral onyx]

VestiT is probably the only properly optimized unit

[unique wagon]

bro sort it descending by CP

[covert lintel]

I thought it was blue or black line

[brazen ledge]

2 screenshots are just inverted

[unique wagon]

oh wait second pic is first pic

[brazen ledge]

If you prefer lol

[gritty ridge]

Thats a really specific range to build for. They could just have 22%+

Like my laplace

[unique wagon]

TVesti Blanc shud be a comp cus thats annoying to win against

[crystal flicker]

You dont see 22% everyday Like my VesT

[swift mango]

21% is the highest without CS cube. And 23+2%, the next tier is just crazy hard while needing CS cube too.

[unique wagon]

So TVesti Blanc Jack, something with Noah, something

[gritty ridge]

21% isnt the highest without adjutant lol. 24% is the highest without adjutant

[unique wagon]

Probably Privaty

[swift mango]

21 and 24 is the same

[raven plover]

its cus 21-24 just the same frame reduction

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

Different numbers

1 and 2 are not the same number

[swift mango]

Check pin. I won't explain again.

[spiral onyx]

These are my highest CP units. Only VestiT and Emilia are optimized for PvP. SWHA, Cindy, Scalter and Raven are all optimized for PvE (union raid). And then there's Liter lol

[raven plover]

true

[unique wagon]

I want invested Emilia for some def comps

[brazen ledge]

28% ele Cindy is not optimized for pve bro

[covert lintel]

I want my emi to be like that

[spiral onyx]

My SGs have high atk + elemental but I don't even use them anymore

[crystal flicker]

I've been rolling SWHA and Rapipi, still nope

[swift mango]

And Why should he care about that?

[spiral onyx]

Oh lmao yeah I rerolled Cindy for lots of atk and dropped elemental. My guildies hated me for it

[raven plover]

[brazen ledge]

He said she was invested for pve are you slow ?

[swift mango]

With your synch you won't be lowest dmg of you Union at least.

[unique wagon]

Shud I reroll this hmm

[spiral onyx]

I hit at the equivalent of -100 in synchro lol

[swift mango]

He may try to invest a bit but he doesn't need to go all the way. Because his research level and synch level are much bigger investment than your 100% Ele already.

[brazen ledge]

Nah only 5 not worth

[unique wagon]

how not worth

[brazen ledge]

I don’t remember exactly why I think you posted the maths somewhere

[swift mango]

I don't see your union all having your synch -100 above. So you won't be the worst.

[brazen ledge]

Doesn’t justify bricking his acc
Im pretty sure nish did not brick his Cindy for UR with 23% atk because he was high sync

[unique wagon]

There is no black and white rule about it though

[swift mango]

Ofc his score would be many times higher than you 110% Ele Cindy.

[brazen ledge]

I wouldn’t do it personally, lower than 6 is not worth it imo

[brazen ledge]

? Im trying to figure out what you are trying to prove here lol

He does more dmg than me in UR, no shit Sherlock

You got other ones like that ?

[swift mango]

I trying to prove that you are bricker than him.

[brazen ledge]

That makes absolutely no sense especially since this wasn’t even what we were talking abt

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

Stop sucking his dihh

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

[swift mango]

Only plebs like you and me need 4 Ele lines.

[brazen ledge]

??

[spiral onyx]

My current synchro is 1047 and my union average is 913. At -100 synchro, that puts me around straight in the middle

[brazen ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-bait-or-low-iq-bait-or-low-iq-call-it-call-it-bait-or-gif-11665902714889208022

[swift mango]

Good enough. Probably better than @raven plover in his own union.

[gaunt bane]

I should win this yea?

[unique wagon]

Maybe

have u thought to just Siren their Noah or something

I think 2nd team wins though

Idk Lib shud die

Wait let me check if ur team is 2 RL

[surreal fable]

is there any tool that let me see how much cp would be affected if I take certain lines?

[unique wagon]

it probably is

[surreal fable]

for example this is jackal, how do I calculate if rolling 4% cs, 3% def will increase or decrease cp?

I need to roll some pvp OLs to increase cp

[unique wagon]

Idk if Lib P3 will die to your TVesti

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/true-gif-21006811

[unique wagon]

Meh they're 3 RL

u shud be ok

shud kill Lib

[whole ocean]

This may be the closest and luckiest CA match I had

[gaunt bane]

Maybe, if I have Siren

[gaunt pulsar]

3% def roll doesn't exist

Ol go from 1 to 15 tier, find table that says what tier of roll you getting and compare sum, so you have 4+6 rn, new one you getting should be higher to gain cp, especially because ele% rated slightly higher for cp increase

[unique wagon]

thanks to Soda having ammo u won

0-1 ammo Soda would have lost

[whole ocean]

Oh I thought it was because Rumani was reloading, good call

[unique wagon]

Both

Rumani not reloading, u lose
Soda no ammo, u also lose

its a funny match

[whole ocean]

Yeah, it's also a good example why MiharaBC is falling out of the pvp meta

[tropic summit]

you could run glass cannons with brid or poli or xanne
alternatively you can run a rapunzel-soline-scarlet team and aim for stun pressure

CP probably would suck with the first option unless it's brid, so the latter seems more doable

[tulip quest]

Rip me I guess im currently using Mihara comp

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-6

[tulip quest]

I want Rail to pat me in the head instead

https://tenor.com/view/fern-headpat-stark-fern-headpats-stark-fern-headpat-stark-frieren-anime-fern-headpats-stark-frieren-anime-fern-frieren-gif-3222101298275163204

I just like Mihara

cheap comp biscuit + blanc

put rumani for burst gen Cindy mihara

doesn't matter who gets indom just not mihara

high winrate for a cheap comp

then I get to make 5 good comps instead of 4 good + shotgun comp that I hate

It would be pretty interesting for me

if they make C.A 7teams instead

I wanna see how most players would cook their comps

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-dorothy-doro-dancing-gif-5368242873039800586

just 5 not enuf

I just find it interest seeing different variants of comps that may or may not work

[tropic summit]

you've to look at it on the other side:

• things work because there are things that get countered with it
• what you can run/should run is based on win ratio matrixes for matchups

look at slow cindy... a team that'd generally suck balls, but it works because you can't pinpoint a team just for that one, you've to account for another 4 possibile matchups

now what happens if you make it 7 teams? you'll get a jungle, because realistically you'll have to start betting you can counter 6-7 teams, good luck

game is already gamble-ish, but people can still try making 3 well rounded teams for a wild chance of winning
make it 7... may aswell just say "jesus take the wheel"

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/desktropolis-puttler-bean-juice-bean-juice-studios-anderson-gif-11581288968222899718

More room for team innovation

[tropic summit]

or just pure chaos

[mighty haven]

@tropic summit beautiful

HelmT Phase 1 already smacking in CN PvP

[tulip quest]

C.A has no good rewards anyways

more fun to make ur Nikke's chicken fight more

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

~~i'd scrap and remake pvp altogether but if you're having fun that's all good ~~

[tulip quest]

also people will 100% adapt as time pass

[tulip quest]

they can't tho

they focus PVE too much I mean look at C.A what a season are we as BETA?

[tropic summit]

30+

[tulip quest]

HIGHER THAN MY age

[tropic summit]

But yeah, you're correct—there’s nothing that really warrants them investing in a mode like that. The community doesn’t care enough, so the developers don’t need to either.

It just keeps the whels motivated to spend gems for silly ranks, appealing to players’ egos in the right way and pushing them to spend to close the gap—that’s about it.

and since they'll want to keep their ranks, they'll spend to have higher progression, win/win for SU

[mighty haven]

...pepper....

[tulip quest]

yea that's why to min max this game have to do both pvp and pve

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1

[tulip quest]

cause if pvp has good rewards like SR I would prolly just focus on it

[mighty haven]

I lost focus after Three CA seasons

Now I just chill in C10 on my main

[unique wagon]

CA?

[tropic summit]

aye

[unique wagon]

If SpA it depends on what units ur rivals have

The best def is the one that requires niche units

Cus not everyone will invest

[gaunt bane]

@tropic summit 👆 some pointer pls

[unique wagon]

Off

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit yay i did it again :D

Mmast is really good

[tropic summit]

looks good, notes:

• must not be in deficit (multiply enemy CP for 0.846), T1 could afford small deficit, T2 can't
• T2 vestiTU is assumed indommed, confirm linked unit and jackal have higher HP than vestiTU and vestiTU is linked

if the above are met, you should be fine, vestiTU ammo recommended at least x2
if you can't indom properly, consider non jackal indom against scarlet and noah-biscuit archetype against T2 instead, don't kill liberalio before enemy reach B3 in that case

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/my-deer-friend-nokotan-bully-maguire

[warm monolith]

This was the moran i was using lol

I still cant get a helmet piece

Werent they gonna increase the loots?

[oak smelt]

For rocks only iirc

I did get more rocks than usual

[gaunt bane]

Ah crap idk why vesti is no longer linked. She used to be with this setup, and I didnt reroll their gears. Even drakeT will steal her link now. What about SWHA as indom unit? I imagine swha should have no trouble clearing that team while indommed as well

[tropic summit]

there's a biscuit, SWHA will get stalled out as you don't pop their stacks early enough

[gaunt bane]

What did you suggest for the other approach again? I didnt quite vision the team in your suggestions

[tulip quest]

that meme looks like your favorite

[tropic summit]

T1 indom with biscuit to ensure you don't get blanc killed
T2 a noah-biscuit archetype on DPS oriented B3, ensure you're 3RL so throw a slow flex in p4 (cindy/crown)

[gaunt bane]

No siren whoops

[tropic summit]

rapunzel/noise

rumani

you need to ensure 3RL in T2, you want to catch lib nuke

[oak smelt]

Main box

Is there a better team combination for SPA that i can build?

[gaunt bane]

Lemme see if i can match cp.

[tropic summit]

they're all pretty bad teams

you definitely can make better ones with those units

if you can't make 3 proper teams, make 2 strong teams and a pad one

[oak smelt]

I am lacking some key units though

[tropic summit]

1. don't use blanc in p1
2. don't use lib as main B3
3. don't use helmT in a non 2RL team

[tropic summit]

if you can't make 3 proper teams, make 2 strong teams and a pad one

your defense is as good as your 2 worst teams

keep in mind speed is meaningless if the team has no threat or is exploitable

same goes for CP, low CP will be meaningless

[tropic summit]

you can slot RRH if she's well built, any DPS B3 will do

just ensure that if you let them burst, you're either 3RL or 4RL noah archetype

noah can catch lib nuke up to same speed or 1RL slower

[gaunt bane]

I just realized their blanc is unprotected

[oak smelt]

I can't have a pad team since my only PVE unit that I am not using in PVP are Crown and RRH atm

A lot of my opponents in my bracket are like this 1 PVE high CP padding team and 2 somewhat mid CP team with a mix of non PVP unit.

Most of my defense losses so far are due to gapping as I can easily attack those that gapped me and take back my position.

I am still planning to hold out my boxes worth around 25 levels

[tropic summit]

remove cindy for vesti in there

also you need survival in p1

moran/nayuta in p1

[gaunt bane]

Oh ignore the team, thats an auto team

[tropic summit]

oke

either way yes, that's a very punishable team

account for the fact they'll still burst with centi in p2 and helmt in p4 if you're to kill p1 and p2

use noah or indom here

or ensure you've backup B3 if you get helm sniped

else make sure you've an instant nuke for 1hitko wipe

[tropic summit]

oke, commit to either 2 teams and 1 cp pad or 3 teams but with decent threat

don't try to take a mixed approach as it will be just worse

[gaunt bane]

Maybe something like jackal vesti swha lapT blanc
Indom but lapT wont steal link. Cant run this team against the other cos cp gapped.

[tropic summit]

swha hits p5, that doesn't give you pressure in p1

blanc and jackal are low hitters

jackal vesti lappy sg blanc would be ensuring you lethal p1

e.g. drakeT or arcanaAlt

they feed you so you're 2RL regardless

ensure drakeT or vestiTU gets indommed, although even lappyT indommed will likely followup wipe

[oak smelt]

1. I put her there just to counter Siren since there are quite a handful of my opponent have her so blanc is in p1 with a lock from biscuit in p4 and Jackal will be a battery at p5
2. Okay, switched out
3. I am using Noise as a sacrificial comp though so that Rosa gets triggered, my noise is not that built atm

Is this better?

[tropic summit]

1. again, blanc p1. don't use her p1, you're giving free sirenable p1 to enemy
2. glass cannon vestiTU is not lethal, that's a very cheesable team
3. too slow, again helmT in a non 2RL team

make 2 teams 2RL and 1 CP pad, don't take the mixed approach

also don't expect to sacc noise here, enemy will pop rosa cloak in p2, making her pepega dmg

rosa on defense without being jackal linked is furthermore cheesable with SWHA who can pop her cloak within 1RL

[gaunt bane]

Got pressured back
Would drakeT in p5 make a difference?

[tropic summit]

that's why i said you should indom vestiTU

read above what we discussed

change strategy if you can't afford running proper indom

#pvp-arena message
#pvp-arena message

you're given more than 3 options to run here, sort CP as needed

[gaunt bane]

Vesti is indom target tho? Just that she died before blanc burst?

[tropic summit]

you're running your 3 linked units all in p1 p2 p3

you distribute 0 damage that way

at B1 half your team is already dead

because you didn't use the biscuit indom variant i gave you

[gaunt bane]

Yea thats when I realized I fked up and asked if drakeT in p5 would be better

[tropic summit]

biscuit:

[hollow lagoon]

Why not kill the easier to manage t2

[tropic summit]

this was given to you already in #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

he already has 3 options

we extensively discussed about it earlier

[gaunt bane]

You didnt suggest biscuit here tho

[tropic summit]

read above please

it's literally one of the first suggestions

[hollow lagoon]

In other words he ask you but does his thing

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[gaunt bane]

Ok sorry will read again. I had issue with cp on regular burstgen units

[tropic summit]

that's fine you learn from these mistakes anyway

fix your indom team to have biscuit or better damage distribution

biscuit is the easy fix here

[crystal flicker]

How to win against RNGod

[hollow lagoon]

I have cp issue with my generators too but kind of whatever it’s only like 1-2 units a team

[tropic summit]

you learn to pray for the right RNGod

[hollow lagoon]

Huh

When did I get 11%

[candid knoll]

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

My Ada is almost 15%

[candid knoll]

"roll hell"

[hollow lagoon]

2 ele 1 atk

[humble tiger]

Man. It's so hard getting CS on PvP units.

[hollow lagoon]

That’s just life

[arctic jewel]

Or in general

[humble tiger]

In general yeah. But CS is the most important line for PvP units that don't do damage. Aside from maybe Def or Atk if they're scaling.

And ammo.

[arctic jewel]

I know xD

The only time when I actually wanted Def is probably Moran xD

It's funny how often you get Def or Hit Rate on Nikkes that don't need that

[hollow lagoon]

I had a 3 def Moran and I traded it for 3 atk Moran

Sad

[oak smelt]

Same here, 1 rock reroll and i get black line attack on 3rd line on crown lol

[arctic jewel]

Rip, although Atk on Moran nowadays is pretty good, right?

[hollow lagoon]

Leech better

[oak smelt]

Haha, that's not i was targeting but game likes to mess with you by giving you good lines on unit that you are not focusing on atm

[hollow lagoon]

@arctic jewel I have a theory, treasure nikkes that got skk seed is stronger

Helm Privity Moran

Maybe even Drake

[arctic jewel]

I was just joking, but yeah, I get what you mean xD

[arctic jewel]

🤔

[quick lake]

Atk moran is better

[humble tiger]

Now I'm no longer wishing for Epinel Treasure. You ruined it.

[hollow lagoon]

[gaunt bane]

@tropic summit T2 kinda struggled a bit, won in the end. T3 auto team actually won vs their indom.

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-laugh-laughing-gif-10107777875102130969

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-anime-1

[gaunt bane]

now im at deficit in term of win/lose vs this guy and need to come up with better def team

[tropic summit]

if you're in deficit or borderline deficit, you can give up expecting to defend

unless he's a monkey

[gaunt bane]

as in I spent all my token and he still has 1

[humble tiger]

What's the slowest team that can win against a standard 2RL nuke?

[gaunt bane]

if I won on my first try I can keep my position without caring about def team lol

[tropic summit]

elaborate

what is this 2RL standard nuke like, cuz there are instant ones and delayed ones

[humble tiger]

Oh. Then the instant one.

[tropic summit]

moran noah 2RL
moran bay biscuit 2RL

situationally slow cindy or slow lib on 4RL-5RL

[raven plover]

7 RL label biscuit team prolly still win vs scarlet

[quick lake]

Like Moran Noah SWHA/vesti/lib

They’re like 2.1-2.2RL technically

[tropic summit]

ye vestiTU and SWHA can get you 2.2RL-ish anti nuke

[humble tiger]

Should work.

[tropic summit]

still need to beware that if too slow and enemy is on CS%, noah/bay can be too late to activate

[humble tiger]

Man. I'm glad my bracket has calmed down.

This one particular day was so chaotic.

Spent 300 gems, then an additional 200 gems to maintain CH3.

It's worth it.

[oak smelt]

That's my bracket life at the moment lol, luckily i don't aggro to much so more or less quite calm.
So far the ppl that attack me all has way more CP in total than me but I can easily attack back with no CP deficit penalty despite the gap
Maybe i am hoarding too much materials atm so i am kind of sandbagging my PVP teams atm

[tropic summit]

dolphins/whales have natural advantage in pvp

while f2p will both be able to attack and unable to defend against each others

this mode is dumb because it has realistically noway for you to "win" unless opponent plays their card wrong

[humble tiger]

I think my team can beat that CH1. But if they went to 281, they might gap me till I reach 261.

[humble tiger]

The only real way to win is to just gap everyone.

[oak smelt]

Yeah, a lot of spenders in my bracket and i have yet drop a dime on my account.
Somehow there are some ppl that spends a lot and can't break my sub optimal defense team lol.
I think some hold back from attacking me since they know that they can't defend against my attack despite having way more CP so that can't hold that position anyway

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jojo-darby-1

[humble tiger]

Who cares about this full MG team?

You're 30% deficit. You auto lose.

[tropic summit]

there's also casual spenders, they log in once or twice and call it a day

some ppl can't be bothered min/maxing arena, because those 300 extra gems aint worth the headache

[humble tiger]

I saw giga whales putting a team of fully built R units and still winning defense.

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon he's talking about you

[quick lake]

I recently gave up and put an easy SPA defence. Somehoow they cant win it wth

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t think I can do it