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Only doable on blanc and Noah and even then it’s hard
bro did not do the thing uwu
cindy p1
Is there a way to invalidate Rosanna on all defense teams or can they find a team to attack that requires no real other effort?
I feel like some people just look up "Meta pvp Nikkes" and then just leave it there and throw them in
Can’t u just slap swha instead of lib and use ur team 2 on his team 3
Assuming u win team 1 already
I havent done so, guess i was just too fixated tdying to read their cindy team
sadly
Same vibe
The blanc swha team won vs cindy team 
Jackal blanc swha kept living even after cindy nuke
you burst with blanc at least, boi does with RH
188k privaty, waos
wheres her gacha skin
Don't mind it
My priv stat is def
I purposely didn't change it cause i want s.anis or besti get indom
sanis will get indom cuz privaty is c7 and sanis mlb
and people looking at your privaty: waos, thats a 4 atk 4 ele 4 crit privaty
@onyx scaffold how can i know when im attacking or defense base on the group i am? now im in 35 but no idea how that works

assume u will always win
35 will attack 36
then 35 will defend (33vs34)
then u will attack until final
it is better to show a drawing
lemme ask gpt
nvm gpt too dumb
thinking someone made it on blablalink but i forgot to save
I just pulled Biscuit from standard; is there an obvious reshuffling I can do with my current defense teams to utilize her well? She seems to always be paired with Noah in the pinned message, whom I don't have
There are 64 guys from 64 leagues. Splited into 8 group by same order.
You would be in group 5, no.3, positioned on the top right of the group. ATK in your first match.
then DEF > ATK > ATK > ATK > DEF.
i see, will have to pay attention to those details

so thats how it works
why not jackal p1? 
Does Nero Moran win against Moran Noah
It feels like I change them in the wrong time 
It's depending on the Dps and team speed.
I guess nero moran would burst with HelmT
So you don't nhave good chance in this meta
To make sanis burst when meeting siren
ASS burst is actually worse. 
Wdym
Double buff sanis worse?
Vesti with enough Ammo, Libby, SW all could kill your team clean then slowly chip down your moran and nero
She isn't even indomed.
Nah, she will indom for sure cause i make it that way

If Ass indom then it's still bad because SW burst is better anyway.
Linked SW actually worse in my group
Many scar has 80+ ele
My linked priv and emi died before even burst in the past
linked ASS is actually worse than linked Emi against counter. And Privaty p1 is worse than jackal p1 against Ele as well.
You just hate anis
it's just how SG works. 
wut u running this C.A Blood
anyone able to help with arena/sp arena teams? the new treasures are really throwing me off
@tropic summit
hey he put Label in P4 now
changed T1 apparently
and no dont tell me to Rosanna SG that Vesti team cus I dont build Rosa
They only have 1 b1, prob don’t even need rosa 
so the guy swapped out Red Hood for KitVesti
Im using this team and occasionally they lose because burst didnt go off in time
but Tvesti will cook me
That’s why nayuta p1
Nayuta 4 SG?
could but there’s better options
like what
bro's writing an essay
Siren stun is slower than their Noise B1 though
oh wait
Lib vs moran
Swha vs vesti

yeah about Jackal in P2 I dont have her dolled lets see if she kills herself again

not hitting their T2?
@tropic summit inb4 it will only last a week, maybe even less
I didn’t check t2
Lib Scar Blanc Jack Trina
That team should be beaten by noise noah helm cindy rumani i guess
Which B3 burst
helm bursting in that team
Against indom lifesteal cindy will be impossible to kill in that team
Against post burst scar or lib anyways

Would SWHA Blanc RH Jack work against Moran
HEY HES ONLINE HE REMOVED LABEL

not dolled the best pvp b1 in the game, crazy work
PvE main
Can I just throw an SR 0 there
just SR-5 it like normal
if you care at all about pvp (which you must if you're here) she would warrant eventual SR-15
even pve mains would want to invest core pvp units for long term
jackal isn't a niche one time use unit, she's core in SPA and rookie
also presumably you have jackal on defence team? so missing out on that + the cp it provides by her at least having a reasonable doll
Depends if swha can kill the whole team, sometimes she’s iffy against killing moran in biscuit team
he lurk
Yea could be me also
Or you for 1

run it in shooting range so you don't have to guess, see if it links with siren or not
from what it looked like, biscuit and cindy were linked, cindy took damage all the way from distribution
ye good shiet
I should be starting soon was just finishing off some other stuff
and I got racing day to watch yet
did someone say to run priv? 😮
How to beat Moran Biscu Noah Sanis SWHa
is that really the order? they bursting with biscuit?
if that's the order
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
secretly trying to make sanis lifesteal.. for nothing
SAnis carry
no
Noah burst Sanis burst
so it's
moran noah biscuit s.anis swha?
Moran Sanis swha noah biscuit
or tvesti noise blanc centi jackal
which one is easier to beat Ig
oke, run
blanc noise lib biscuit crown
I hit and I lost cus I forgot they burst with SAnis
Ill try tomorrow
2nd team is Nayuta Helm RH Rapu Emilia
jackal blanc ein biscuit flex
moran rumani lib helmt noah

betting on Lib surviving and getting indomed?
it's s.anis, she can't kill within 4RL
what did you even run?
Retro's comp but I forgot they burst with SAnis
was it 5 RL
but Cindy died at 4 RL mark
ill just hit their T3
what is flex bru


Thanks
I didn't even edit 


gotta be grateful for every scraps you get if your competing vs whales in SPA
I keep forgetting to do it lol
in a month if I am lucky I'll hit 21 days 
the li pass shortcut was removed in game so I now forget that basically all the time as that was how I used to find it
This u?
I'm still C1
my main rival hasn't even attacked to take it, even though he easily could. He is just staying in C3, only attacking before reset. I was logged out for over 14 hours too and he is from china so he definitely has had plenty of times to do it
I don't even attack my C1+2 this season even though I could beat them easily.
YO I won Yey
I tot I was gonna be 2-1 2nd to be honest
these guys are like 120costume+ whales
They are clutching while I am comfy
wao 1-2
my watch is over lol. Beat 2 guys 5-0 then lost to the winner due to attacking instead of defending 😛
yep
@arctic jewel I'll have to kill you next CA 

its ok i lost too see u next time
rin won?
Though then again now that I think about it, in the past when I could hold C3 without anyone able to hit me, I too would usually not hit C2 or C1, but it was more because I knew I couldn't beat them
so wanted to save tickets for defending. But my main rival has the highest synchro and cp, and I'm the only one able to counter his defense, so he doesn't really need to worry about anyone else.
@crystal flicker
Found you opponent 
bro literally full counters me, if i had lower cp woulda went 0-5
funny win
Went better than I expected tbh lol. Didn't even change teams at all, more than shuffling positions.
😭
@shell hazel @tidal lichen 2nd place gang! 
I lost today and it's not even close. 
Main rival who got top 4 last season made it. Tbh he has been getting through advance like 6 seasons in a row now.
Mana revive skill working on the same frame of getting wiped is what makes her very good to complete the burst against Scarlet
Nikke keep asking me to quit for a whole week so I didn't even edit my teams. 
Can someone explain how Noah taunt stunned from Siren even if she is in p3 and not p1-2?
I didn't expect SG to lose against Noah tho
lost
that SG really stronk
Your cindy too weak
More like really weak 
Siren is linked in shooting range, not biscuit. Siren has the most attack, so her Jackal link gets removed by the enemy Rosanna
eeeee
OL lv0?
BSoda buffed by Poli
101010 5555. His BSoda is Iron. 
Just need to crit
Considered he couldn't kill Biscuit
noah taunts on her burst I think?
so it would have been after she b2
Anyway I should have fixed my team order so Moran burst. It was my desperate this season with rock that I forgot to fix teams
Atp you should p1 cindy instead 
Ah right how could I forget. Thank you!
Like I said I just forgot to fix anything at all. Because Nikke keep telling me to quit

what you pulled arcana and got her but without school uniform instead?
I'm curious explain yourself brotha
The team i made for a joke have won
yeah me too, like i said if my cp was lower ur shotgun woulda nuked the noah and if i had slightly lower charge speed my scarlet woulda lost too (soda stunned noise and jackal so i had no b1)
CA doesn't take cp into account 
u still cant nuke a c7 noah with lv 13 cube with a low cp shotgun team
CA doesnt have CP penalty but pure tank team and shotgun teams benefit a bit from cp
diff base stat
well if ur cp comes from hit rate and max ammo...
Rosa also fail the Crit rng lol
right and rosa didnt nuke vesti with burst lol
Wtf are you talking about. 
2 weeks of rocks just def and hit rate 
seems normal rng to me
I wasted 20+ rocks on moran for at least 1 Ele
but....
That's like 10 times better than my case. 
you got hit rate n def
I just wanted 1 Ele
your case is 2x better than mine

As they say 2 rolls is better than 1
50+ rock just for hit rate and DEF. When I gave up and rerolled attribute I got tier 1+2 3 times in a row.

But today I got Crit rate so I'm okay now


you got 2 rolls tho Ele never visited me
and it was my Birthday
unlucky
VOSCOFF REVERSE
🙃

I have 4 units at 4 Ele.
200+ rocks each... Oh wait, aside from SBS. Only cost like 100.

your late Reverse ady have Centi p5 SR 15 PHASED 3
I could have her phase 3 long ago but I don't want to exchange. 

Save it for July
not april .5 anniv?
July treasure. 
are we still alive by then?
Yes
Tomorrow and she is built
whats the comp commander?
I FORGOT TO CHEER
You can't forget if it's just start. 
Will cheer 
Oh wait thats disrespectful mb
Life is tough X.X
Nikke Champion Arena Season 26 - 28 March 2026
Same team as Season 22 to 25 with some rotations
I'm not sure either, still in test phase
Not working very well. 
92% Dr can still die to normal attack. 
Oh wait that's 15s done and she came back to low Dr and died
That reload was bad.

I wish I have 2 Label
why does bro have the exact same loadout as me
Why do u have the same loadout as him 
no idea
auto and hope the best. That's you both's campaign team.
I won, duh
am sori. I only came back fairly recently
RIP Tataru
Sure but I don’t really care about pvp anymore tbh
Also is the sign in button kaput again or just me
Not just you
I can't login too
Is Centi treasure upgrade fine for PvP if you just leave it at treasure 1st stage?
I switch back to absolute team and get sh on
You in the 2nd place advance gang too!
Welcome aboard, we already have me, Hippos and kricoun
From what I hear yes, but so far I've opted not to even get stage 1
The red dot keeps taunting me, but slowly getting ok it being there.
Never trying anything fancy again 
Wasn't too happy with the Nayuta-VestiT team last season so trying out Rosanna-Absolute this season. Not expecting any spectacular results though, probably need to wait till 3.5 anniversary for any major changes. Also swapped Rapunzel out for Bay+ as the flex for the Moran-Nero-Helm stall team. Both have their pros and cons, just wanted to see t...
Little help here.
flexible unit, generally mean any unit that doesn't steal core part of the chain
let's say you're running a moran noah archetype
moran is in p1, noah is p5
flexibile is p4
means any unit that doesn't steal B1 or B2, ideally doesn't feed and gives you burst gen to retain or kick you into the fastest available threshold
Everyone changed their def teams and now I'm having a hard time.
@tropic summit finished them routes
box/blabla link
This is gonna be my worst season yet.
Ugh...
@umbral crown we both passed
yours was a jungle 
@wind kelp
this is hell 
Indeed. It wasn't like this yesterday.
I can't win against anyone anymore.
- can't run slow cindy
- can't run indom
- can't run noah
- can't run noise
- can't run scarlet
- can't run rosanna
- can't run moran
you're not playing pvp in elden ring hardmode
you're playing elden ring in sekiro hardmode 
dw, I just went with CH4.
He’s playing mine sweeper on extra small touch screen with fat fingers
But u know it ain’t hard
He can swipe and just win
oh maybe i can see it
So easy to say
@tropic summit im ded
yeah it was
With how bad my luck is, even if I swipe with all the money that I have, I won't get anything.
try these
well in a few rounds maybe
surely not straight up dead
just reach tenshi and then yolo
oh hi rail how's life
I want to run PrivatyTr Trina SWHA Jackal Makima but I don't have the CP
Makima just for 1v1 indom against this def
it's saturday evening
I don't even wanna bother...
Modern problems require modern solutions

if only we could be stuck in saturday evening for a long time 
Makima vs TVesti Indom 1v1
the broken privity ending was rough too
oh i just read you finish em all
you've done well surviving the PTSD routes 
i did
now you're ready for actual true crazy routes in other VNs if you ever feel like it
arcana bad end she takes your everything and privity bad end she gives you nothing
how very oppsite lel
it's even sadder when you realize those things may have happened IRL to someone 
yeh
felt like some were based on true stories
arcana student route is my favorite route
Shud I doll Centi and Jack Trina just for CP smh
jack yes for sure
Sigh
lul
all my utilities are around SR5-SR15 so kinda ye
especially jackal anyway for indom sake
how much CP does Doll give at SR 5 @tropic summit
I think them not having OLs is a more CP loss

jackal having that DR goes a long way tbh
You might be asking: no one uses Defender gear, why are they not OLed dont ask me
that i dunno, my checkpoints are generally:
4OL lvl 0
R15-SR5
2-3 lines per piece
4/4/4 or recommended
the above should always give you enough CP to be usable, assuming you aint gapped of 40 synchro levels or more
does 7 7 7 TVesti work in PvP
does she have 20-40%atk and at least x2 ammo?
7/7/7 is usable, although you want 7/10/10 or 10/10/10 because that's how strong her multipliers are during FB
prob gonna reset absolute when anni hits lel
didn't stonks this time?
not worth using in raid
oh you meant for pve
and my vesti is not enuff for that set
The what now?! O.o
are you still running AI made champ teams?
Nah, this setup(in different team order) that i cooked up/borrowed/spaghetti'd together 😄
oh naruhodo 
some are kinda peculiar 
I'll see tonight what teams actually did stuff, assuming with the opponents, it's a 1 win finish, or 3 wins on all.
🤔
Arcana in PvP sounds interesting
Centi is "bricked" as well so
@umbral crown keep trying enough and eventually RNG will finally be on your side? i'm not used to seeing this 
@tropic summit How good is Summer Doro in PvP?
terrible, don't use
good for saccing like viper against scarlet if anything
😭
I see, I currently use Noir for that
default SG team is enough decent as is, viper actually tanks a bit of its potential
wind code, fire code and iron code are a bit more important than elec code and water code in SG teams
poor guy 
each single one of his teams met the worst matchup they could, wild 
Do you think Viper is better than Noir?
if you're against scarlet yes, if you're not against scarlet no
is this the correct way to go about a stall team for defense? or does a team like this still get one shot by the big hitters
A 50/50 then... ugh...
move privT away from p2
moran rumani privT trina helmT
You probably need Noah
that's a pseudo stall though, you'd need a bayT
it's half decent anyhow, you could run it
yeah, I just want to be a little annoying with my rookie defense, not necessarily win lol
ye give it a shot 
I get what you mean, I kinda wanna do the same
Waos
Yes
Clean
This is you right?
Help :c
run these, you're on the left
the moran team needs to have at least 1300k CP
the vestiTU team needs to have at least 1315k CP
Thx
I 5-0'd 2 people yet still didn't make it through #pvp-arena message

a classic

well maybe in their defense those 2 were just bad and you lost against the only good guy in that group 

then again RNG arena, i've long since lost interest in it
I somehow made it into champion arena, the brackets are all set, if i upgrade their OL gear/ fav items or cubes now will it sync?
it will not no
What's the counter to a "Lib - Blanc - SWHA - Helm - Jackal" team? I'd assume Noah, maybe something like "Moran - Noah - SWHA - Helm - Bis" ? 🤔
Okay thank you
Looks good
My only worry is, isn't Lib burst delayed? Would Noah shield still be up if they both 2RL teams?
Its delayed. But only 1 second
2RL lib is caught by 2RL noah up to 3RL noah
let lib burst and run a 3RL team that wipe them then just stall against lib autos
Alrighty, so 2RL Noah would work, but 3RL would be better?
both serve the same purpose
e.g. a noah biscuit cindy helmt rh
okay great, cheers 🙂
Can you tell me why my bestie died? 
Helm burst 
No, helmT goes to emi cause she is highest atk
Yep, interesting 
Aww, snipe failed. C3 managed to hit me back before reset even though I attack just a minute before
Oh well got to keep C1 for almost the full 3 days straight.
Though one of my teams I used to win with didn't win, so he did something to that one not readily apparent, same Nikkes and same order and used the exact same counter but lost
1 proc enough to take 75% of besti life?
Full burst bonus + trina buff 
Also C4, he didn't hit me at all yesterday, not even with his free tickets. I wonder if my defense teams are truly too far enough ahead now that he didn't even bother a test hit
I focus on it mainly now, and pve more than pvp, but I still build new pvp stuff it's good
I want to build PvE Nikkes... but my server doesn't allow me to do that 😡
Just have to take a few short cuts by upgrading Nikkes that are used in both PvP and PvE
++1 rock, looks like i will get less than 40 rocks this month
drop pvp and live in peace
I guess I'm a masochist (getting 3000 gems is pretty nice though)
My PvE upgrades lol
Quantum, Resi and Bastion now lvl 15
I could now either MLB Nihilister for dragon booba, or start leveling vigor and temperance 
sync lvl? if you focus in pve early you will get the sync advantage and you don't need to waste rocks in pvp units
490
I finally got past Mirror Container, but now I have to deal with DVD logos
I wish I had started minmaxxing earlier than I did with outpost and stuff. For like the first year plus, I always used boxes right away 
snake/ziz are the next walls... behemoth is easy
Yeah, Snake is not gonna be fun
that only help against f2p, not against whales that still buy lvls
Need heavy healing and Distributed damage right?
I always used boxes right away tho
The whales in my bracket aren't as crazily leveled as other servers. Their main whaling goes to skins
i have been min-maxing core dust/campaign since day 1 and i'm not near those lv800+whales...
Rip
We are all Day 1, so if I had saved boxes for outpost levels I could probably be much higher
here is like 800~950, at least not a lv1k for the moment; probably next reshuffle
What lv are you now?
Thank god I don't have ridiculous whales in my server
actual lvl or using boxes?
Your current lv
651 right now, probably around 740 with boxes
Go use it
i'm in the last boss and i clear those 1 or 3 days before new chapters
I only started playing this game as a goof after seeing that Volume shooting pose gif on reddit
Had no idea I would still be playing it every single day 3 years later, so I didn't even care about minmaxxing or what it even looks like in gacha games.
no reason to use my boxes if i already have the max outpost lvl
i also have another problem like mlbs
For me it was during the days when I still watched Sinder the vtuber because I got hooked by the writing
low dupes and not many mlbs to increase my max lvl
My Crown has only gotten 1 dupe in 2 years. Still a stable in campaign, but cp so low compared to my other characters.
I'm only 714 as day 1 player 
Well i skipped a lot at year 1 and have fun pvp gemming
probably most of my teams are like 10~20/50 on dupes
there were many ways to min-max before
like to not use your boxes when the outpost max lvl was 100, aroundchapter 16hm
and wait for more chapters to get free extra core dust
I am the exact same level dude
or well I would be if I used my stockpile I currently have. Waiting on new chapters now though
and the campaign push at 45% deficit
Yeah i didn't do that
I just focus on reading the main story
Check it
Rakuen you are actually way ahead of me technically, if you actually skipped days in first year. I haven't missed even a single day of dailies and I'm still the same level as you 
you can spend a bit to reach the next syncrho/cp boost instead of using all your boxes
like if you are 674, spend to reach 681
Yeah but starting year 2 i wipe out dailies
because about cp and damage lvls between boost is not a big increase
Ah that explains it
I only wipeout occasionally
And only 2-3 extra per day, after the free one
My bracket's lv is so high, so I can't afford to save boxes
i have problems defending and against whales that gem is not a good experience
for that reason i have been sleeping for years in pvp, can't defend against cp gap
I wouldn't even bother if I had to keep up with synchro level super aggressively to stay competitive, since I don't even like pvp, only doing it for the gems and trying to get as high as possible without gemming at all
is not even a good mode, but the only place to get decent amount of gems
Still somehow been in Top 4 range for over a year
ok i just heard that lib has worse burst gen against cindy in p5? was it always like this? a bug? a feature ? 😄
depends on the units, not sure about lib because i hate her
but sniper have different angle to hit units in p5
I'll keep nagging anyone who's gems so he'll support the game more
One of the whales in my bracket actually has some honor on that front, he almost never gems, been in the same bracket for 5 months now and he has only gemmed for an extra SP attack twice. Been more of a who blinks first or who gets the snipe before reset with a freebie fight
Even my bracket's C1 in the past nearly retired when i saw him last login
But when i attacked him, he constantly checked his account now
Same here, the guy who usually sits in C3 since no one attacks him, he used to only log in once a day for dailies and then be off for 24 hours. The last few seasons that I've attacked him, he now checks multiple times per day too
they get baited by the system
Actually pushed him to C4 before the start of current season, and he hasn't managed to counter my new defense teams for 3 days straight. Usually he would gem until he does, only used his free tickets to test.
a false threat to encourage the purchase of resources, cp gap or you can't defend
mmm you can't even denfend with the cp advantage
some of my hits are around 30% deficit and is still easy to beat decent~good teams
you probably need like 40%+ cp to defend
Yeah the C4 currently is 30 synchro levels lower, but he used to be able to find a counter for mine even with the cp gap. I assume one was against my Scarlet team, but now that I finally switched away from it, I think he doesn't have enough tools or CP padding to get the 2 out of 3 he needs
30 sync is not a lot, but for cp around sync 400~500... probably not many good flex units
i think my highest team diff for a win was like 200 lvls (1/3) for a sp win was like 150 lvls (2/3) and deficit for a hit like 35%
He is only 4 levels away from the next CP breakoff point, so he will probably be able to beat me again easier, until I get to my next one.



Save boxes? He even gem claimed 7 times a day. 
As f2p
just average* pvp experience
you have to remember that max core units and100+ skins are whales, or you do think a casual have the last 2 or 3 pilgrims max core?
Oh shit my Discord server is deleted? Do we need members after creating the server or it would be closed down after awhile?

you didn't pay the bills
Wtf? 
it is what it is
You just trolling now. 
I need to know the rule of creating server not "it is what it is" 
I checked google and it said the server can't be deleted without any notification unless hacked or something.
This as well.
your account is in danger
maintenance or something
I haven't personally seen a Discord server dissappear unless it was deleted by the maker specifically, so don't really know. As far as I can tell I don't think there is an auto delete, I still have some super old group project servers from school that no one uses, just haven't bothered leaving them for whatever reason 

Yeah, it's weird.. maybe it's this one and the discord data somehow corrupted.
Check it again sometime later, if it is still missing make a support ticket I guess.
Or I assume Discord has support 
Guys i got my beloved on single social point pull
but the audio got bugged out
Also ive got these too but whatever cool
I wanna go for mlb libe but ive got 1lb of her so far
Liberalio dupe huh?
Ye
that ss have more body labels than my account
You dont have her?
I do, but I need dupes man
Same, i didnt had luck on her banner and just used mileage, wouldve loved to get her mlb
I have like 5-6 so far, privaty and one or two is cb6
I spent 1.200 gems on ordinary banner, worth it

hmmm so you had 6 blue tickets?
Yeah
I also spent 2.100 more, i cant save up
i would wait for 10 or open one by one 😄 but if it worked then it worked i guess
I just couldnt wait and wanted to do some pulling, the first 10 pull was worth it (libe one) but my second try was empty which was expected and greedy of me
after 160 wall i didn't spen a single gem on ordinary pulls
I sometime spent 150 gem when depressed.
nahh not worth it, gold mileage too good
When I depressed I have no reasoning.

i am like that but when pissed of xD
I dont spent 150 but instead rely on multis
Same thing
Also what happened to your nickname
he had bad luck i guess
Idk, I'm more lucky with this username somehow

i started covering part of the screen showing how many rocks i got from kraken now i am happier 😄

I got 3 today and 2 yesterday
genius I don't disagree though sometimes not knowing is best
i just take my hand lift it to not see and easy i don't know anything xD
same with doll mats cases
if you spam click it real quick it flashes up and goes as well
The feeling of upgrading in the first try with a blue mat is so good, it give me SR lvl 10 doll for my trina
doesn't really happen for me 🙁
always need 1-2 levels before I get the super success
recently SR5 to SR10 is torture like last two i think got to SR 8 at least
to SR 15 it was less bad
It succeeds whenever you dont expect fr
Still a bit miffed that my rival managed to snipe succesfully, after whiffing the last two days, but on the other hand, I am so far ahead on points now that C4 would have to pull some literal magic to outscore me by the end for me to not get my 3k gems.
And that is assuming he can actually counter my defense today
new comp new problems... my team doesnt get the burst off in time before theirs wipe me
Try nayuta/thelm/swha/rosanna/jackal if you have
dont have Nayu raised
Im not experienced much on pvp and dont trust my skills :( but you can still use her if: youre not getting on deficit, she had at least some proper built, and does have little skills invested
I'll jus copy their comp and keep raising my level till I mon par
Bastard is literally winning cause of deficit
Thats...one way to win it i guess?
yeh. and it pisses me off that I have to fall this low
Whats your ranking?
was 1 but now I fell down to 2

You can also try to snipe noah quickly but i dont have the knowladge of who will rosanna target
@shell hazel can i get help
Trying to make a better PVP team but not sure what a good setup would be for my three teams
main issue im facing with the team before is just Im melting too fast to the damage
its like a 75% of me losing or winning
Nayuta has 9 seconds of indomability at the start if im not wrong OR you can use a burst 2 defender and biscuit, defenser at p1 and get indom too
no I'm going on an adventure
Send your kit please
My current PVP team or all my Nikkes?
Okay, ill try to keep here alive, bye
All please
ugh ill have to raise Nayuta after all then for pvp
One second
Why would you not at the first place
Like i said, you can also use Bay or noah/biscuit too
this channel? I don't cook much here anyway only sometimes if I feel like it
I raised Bay & Noah & Biscuit so thats y I dont
Rail hard carrying things usually 😄
In my mind youre the big ones in the channel, alongside rail and many others tbh
oh not lately for me anyway tbh
Are you in deficit in noah/biscuit/thelm/rosanna/jackal team?
the deficit would probably go lower if I use rosanna
If I know compositions I will assuredly just start investing in them over time
Im assuming you want def teams right?
I just want to go back to winning in Arena 
build your jackal and noah more - your SWHA is also meta for pve and pvp
You should raise both your nayuta and rosanna, also you can wait for a someone else to reply too for another comp but i'd say theyll also say you should raise your nayuta and rosanna
if you build the key units you have more options
From what I understand I heavy load my last team and middle team since most people front load their first team
it doesn't matter because people can just swap teams
people will generally target the two weakest looking teams
Like I said if I have a team compositom/roster I will start investing them, I know Jackal, nayuta and Noah are three I need to invest in
it's not like it's randomised, most people who attack should be constructing attack teams to work against your def teams
Rosanna is built just not nayuta. Ill give it a while its not like im gonna lose much when im 1 rank lower
cart before the horse, invest at least jackal or noah then return for advice on how to use them, they will be useful
I’m really not sure enough of the pvp meta on this game to be crafting teams on demand, I know certain units are better for PvP than others but I’m not sure what teams to build
Okay so what generic teams should I have built right now?
pvp units are not usable until you raise their CP, for stuff like jackal or noah you typically want at least SR-5 with 4 OL and 4/4/4 skills, actually not that expensive
if their cp gets close to your pve units you're on the right track and they're usable then
I can invest those units no problem, it’s just having good teams ready to go
jackal usually goes with blanc for an indom option
noah with moran or noise and a good b3 dps behind it like SWHA or Vesti TU
T1 sbs/blanc/arcana/centi/jackal
T2 vestitu/noah/swha/liter(or dkw)
T3 nayuta/naga/anissw/rouge/noir
(I tried to cook with my best)
@hollow tulip
you don't want SBS imo weak to biscuit, placeholder only
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for 😭. I can invest in all them and build off that and tweak with advice as teams get harder
She carried me back in my day
the problem is some of those units aren't really what you want to run long term
it's why I suggest you invest jackal/noah/swha then come back for more target advice then
Built up your crown and tove for pve/bossing and privaty/noise/Bay for pvp btw@hollow tulip
Scar instead of sbs?
best pve / pvp unit you could build is SWHA she is an absolute monster
works in both modes
Vesti tac or normal and SWHA?
Im believeing he has somewhat investment on her, i suggested based upon his second set of photos
no doll
Vestitu=vesti: tactical upgrade
Snow white= heavy arms
Slow Cindy Actually made them 1.5rl instead of 2rl and Libby landed before my b1 which isn't possible normally. and Ofc too fast Cindy wasn't able to trigger biscuit. 
He could got her new, she has no doll on ein too
But @shell hazel is right, build her too if you still havent @hollow tulip
also no helm treasure here 
MoranT
HelmT
SWHA
Vesti TU
Jackal
Noah
all of these should be in a build queue of sorts - last 2 are pvp only
first 4 have good use in other modes, vesti TU sucks on bosses but bosses campaign stages on deficits
From this: Shotgun team(3) and nayuta team(4) got taken out on two fights, and shotgun also lost on third fight. Figures, it was a bit weird, ah well, 3 wins on 3 fights, all that matters 😄
If two teams have holes in them, then next round just patch those holes, and fly again.

@hollow tulip link your blabla we can tell where your investment lies then because it's not easy to see that on your images alone
I could not x5 everyone like before but i did my watashi gamabari masu
you die too?
damn you won on a tie-breaker
I wish i had at least a single gacha skin too
a threesome tie-breaker!
Was crazy hahaha
you can too for the low low price of (probably) $60
Yeah no, maybe after the elections
The current party and the current president is in the seat for over 20 years now
ah pulling the old putin?
glorious leader forever
I wanna go out of turkiye so badly tbf :(
I'm from the UK we get a new leader every few months 
I believe you guys had some strange laws too recently?
You know its bad when within 5 years it skyrockets from 8 to 44
Fr? Lmao
realistically how bad is that? like is that a weeks wages for $60?
yeah, to "protect the children" :9
Omg they got roblox and discord banned on us with that
discord I can still use without anything special just can't see the nsfw stuff
but yeah that chart you show is only going in one direction
Yeah you can get 30k tl (675 usd) for monthly rent in ankara(the capital) a 2+1 apartment
the capital not istanbul?
No lol, the capital is ankara, near the middle but slightly to the left
Istanbul is just the highest populated city
it's on the anatolian side right?
Yeah
but close to istanbul I think?
Quite affordable, though idk the wages there
Heres on the map
@lunar pawn
oh yeah not that close 🙂
I used to live there, it was quite good actually, me and my buddies used to wander of so much lol, one second
Almost 
I remember going up to this castle with my buddies, no joke
It was mostly empty whatever
should just live there for free 🙂
What's the average
Haha yeah. Sadly life changed unexpected and im in a random city now lol, i want to study university on there if i can
Got it, what about a def team?
Or are you currently earning the lowest?
I looked up on the google but its random nonsense but i think its around 50-60k to say boldly, which translates to 1.2k usd, which is good if you know how to save it
Its for the def team?
you can use for both
Im at highschool rn
Nice
So how old are you
78 personally
Yeah, though its the point where families want their children to move up to around where i live, which is sad tbh
I'm in the hospital rn so take a guess
Also what’s the fifth on t2?
Get well soon, what happened man?
D: killer wife
And you mean sparklinganissa right?

I'd not spend resources on s.anis tbh when you got better stuff to build
Alright I’ll start investing those attack teams, what about def team?
Theres a saying in turkish "geçmiş olsun" which translates to get well soon but i think its stupid and doesnt hold up the value of the original care, but i hope you get well soon man
You can use them as def teams
Alright and you also meant sparkling Anissa right?
Also you should take this tip
Yeah
I’ll build her last then
Bless you 
Also how do i link this?
Privaty Treasure maxed out 
Alright did some initial investments, I’m guessing rookie arena is just as much CP as you can put out right or is there a meta team for that too?
There is a meta team for everything, but pretty much any team can also be countered if opponent has the tools and CP. Unless you are so far ahead of everyone that you can keep them at a deficit against you, which is unlikely unless you spending or heavily min maxed f2p
if you setup https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad then there is a sharing icon top right that lets you copy link
Remember.
Bones are temporary
But a waifus love is eternal
Hit my head, and I kinda need it to love waifus

If I start typing gibberish, get worried
sniperoni
GL to your tomography bro
I got sniperoni too. Hit rival 1 minute before reset, he still had time to hit back 
change ur comp before hitting
change ur order
I did, either changed too early, or he was fast enough to reshuffle his attack.
oh that was fast alright
he prolly used to it then
Doesn't really matter, held C1 for almost the entirety up to this point. The guy who was stuck in C4 is so far behind that won't take much for me to get the last bits of point lead I need for 3k gems
Even if he manages to finally figure out a counter for mine and gets back to C3, where I am now
I did lose with one of my teams when I hit him, used to win with all 3, not sure what he changed since the 3rd team was still the same Nikkes and order.
Also main rival is almost 50 synchro ahead, so could even be that he just had a versatile enough team to win against more than one specific defense of mine, even if he just pressed battle button as soon as he refreshed and saw I took it back
HelmT?
yes the lady with the good looking blue hair
But doesn't her burst go to my emi
And How can she aim my p3 besti
oh it's scarlet s2
emi indeed caught le nukeroni
then your vesti got s2'ed
this effect is from scarlet?
the blue smoke/effect is from helmT for sure
Yeah
But idk why that scar s2 is so lethal with just 1/2 proc
Trina skill too fat
buff counter damage at unlucky timing
yeah those are pretty fat ticks 
the only things left at that timeframe that can reach p3 is just scarlet s2
helmt, trina and scarlet autos are stuck on nayuta p1
Only 132 but it feels like a nuclear bomb
you only got unlucky that counter proc at that timing, if the counter proc before Trina B2 you live 
Which trina's skill that makes scar s2 became like that?
skill 2
that Scar seem to have ele dmg stacked too, unlike standard PvP Scar with just Atk + crit
Does biscuit invicibility remain if biscuit is knocked out?
if it already proc then yes, the only skills that are turned off are the ones that don't specify duration like Noir buff
if biscuit cast the stack yes, if biscuit dies she no longer can apply invulnerable
keep in mind she also won't procc against 1hitko nukes
your unit needs to be alive with at least 1 hp to procc it
Hmm alright thanks, I'll see if this works vs a high deficit opponent.
was your rosanna jackal linked?
SWHA removes rosanna cloak which tanks your dmg output unless she's linked
try this next, this assumes rosanna stays linked, you can check links in shooting range
if you having trouble to keep rosanna linked with the above, run this instead
in that case she's linked, but if opponent is bursting with noise before you deal damage, you may no longer be lethal because SWHA and helmT both have their HP increased
you can try the nayuta + ross approach, it adds nayuta dmg to the equation and may deny noise saving them, as nayuta applies before noah shield is applied
Nah, that's probably noise's doing
She burst first so he can't kill 2 water
ye likely
he can always run slow cindy in case
It worked but... I was betting on vesti burst killing blanc, so I would probably lose here even if scarlet didn't misindom (that's 28% deficit
)
in case options with rosanna and nayuta fail, you can always run slow cindy instead, make sure you're 5RL so cindy pops when noah shield is down, you'll lethal both water codes
Is it soda lib time 
slow cindy it is 
Noise prob helps tank rosa
they've also CS%, nayuta didn't even land
also where's your jackal?
rosanna lost her cloak
if you give rosanna link she probably lethals, your damage is good, look at helmT HP and noise doesn't apply in time
2 RL 1 clip RL and 2 highest speed against smg and mg
ensure rosa is linked you can check in shooting range
except he didn't run with jackal but with vesti 
they're not so different, it's 12% off and neither is gaining feed
you didn't lethal at B1?
CS% difference must be insane if noah is on B2 while you didn't B1 on both teams being 2RL
oh i know how
taunt 

just slap slow cindy and call it a day

noah biscuit helmt ros jackal tomorrow if you feel like probably solves it
ros is linked and away from tauntable position
This wins yeah?
I think I just forgot what teams of mine worked last night that's why I lost twice in a row.
It's still in the threshold so we're okay.
I'm back to where I belong.
Ah... so yesterday's issue was just... me getting too emotional to think properly and organize my team.
Man...
I really have no control over my own emotions. It's honestly embarrassing.
Thing had to be done
I end up doing things on impulse without thinking over the consequences till it's too late.
Me everytime I played PVP
Goddammit. I didn't realize I spent 300 gems on attempts yesterday.
NOOOO! WHY AM I LIKE THIS?!!
You have to embrace the zen of never gemming 
I did. Last season I played safe and didn't use gems.
I ended up wasting 300 last night out of deep seething hatred, jealousy, and emotional trauma.
XD

Oh sign in seems to be working again. Go do it if you need it
I managed to press yesterday about an hour before the reset for new day happened and it broke again
I wonder if it will keep breaking every day now

Thats normal, rest assure
This sucks so much.
@tropic summit can we go back to fast def teams?
This is pissing me off.
My old def team can actually hold itself.
just do whatever works, im just sad nobody's hitting me 
You're probably titan whale or your bracket lazy.
no im just a normal whale... but everyone else in my brackets dolphins
I think it was this.
put some resources in privaty shes op now
ur Rank 8?! 
also u have a blanc? blanc goes well with heavy white and besti
I AM RANK 3.
That's where I belong!
Gee I wish.

you got a long way to go, take it easy lol
Just 30 pulls...
I want to cope. I want to feel.
I'll still have 130K left for 3.5
Tsk. Nothing...
400 pulls in standard without SSR.
i mean depends if u wanna focus on raid or pvp, for pvp u dont need to save much. I always had 0 rocks, 0 equips and 0 gems
What is this game?
thats really unlucky tbh
Now I understand why I left this game 2 years ago.
did u finish reading the story? when i started there was no story mode and i whaled for progression to read the story. That should be the main focus of ur game experience. pvp is for pure Entertainment
I'm already done. I'm stuck in campaign somewhere in Chapter 36.
yeah then no need to stress too much about pvp, just know which nikkes are meta in pvp and work on them and u'll get strong enough with time
and by time i mean like a year for a basic CA team to be completed. For a fully invested CA team takes about 2 years
and dont even worry too much about CA power diff, rng diff makes a bigger diff
also technically im not even a whale at this point, the 2 monthly login packs are more than enough. like $20 bucks a month
Still a lot more money than I can cough up.
well having some spare money is the privaliege of a salaryman. the downside is that i can't be a real NEET
still booboo 
Oof
Honestly true. I should just delete my account and make a new one in 3.5
how many rock do u have?
Idk, feel like you won't keep C3 if you make new account.
Wouldn't know unless we try.
anni bracket are often with more whale. So harder to keep c3. And your luck could be the same.
Retro quitted game probably because he played 4+ accounts.
while being MA and vice leader of try hard union. 
right now just 1
but the pack in shop is looking at me
Can you show your Vesti blabla stat?. 
do u have ada?
sure
Hmm, Idk if 1 atk to 1 ele worth. Would you lose the ability one shot Noah? 
Anyway, I guess you next goal would be full reroll the boots
i will remove all ele lines for attack but i still think i should do fine against noah
Nah, i think he starts around 3rd anni. Its just that he got really lucky with his bracket that the whales somehow just don't care or don't read about how pvp works and that is why he can stay around his current bracket otherwise he will get pushed out pretty quick into diamond
yeah, boots already have saved 1 atk 1 crit rate but waiting for more rocks
cuz the lines are low % and would affect my cp
line 3?
crit line 3 and atk line 1
just need to get cs on line 2
im going for 4 atk 4 crit rate 2 crit damage 2 cs
This bring me some trauma. Maybe if you got crit or ele you could consider settled.
Yup. I started during 3rd anni.
first role on armor i got crit rate in line 2, i should have taken it uwu
but that will change the cs and ele for atk and crit rate
This is weird why would you want CS is you already have 3 and only wanted 2?
i will just have cs on helmet and boots, will remove the other
right now i have 4 cs
The others are line 3 CS. 
yeah hahah things happens





