pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

It dosnt matter

[swift mango]

Well, Idk, there are like 2-3 guys on Team building with 50-60% malding, could just ask them

[upper grove]

you won't see me dump rocks on vesti and ada just to get low campaign clears, which will be beaten by new accounts who can run both of them + takina anyway

[hollow lagoon]

When I watch my deficit slowly but surely go away on natural sync atm

[upper grove]

yeah they do ada vesti takina stuff

[swift mango]

Well, I mean they know their stuff, so just ask them if Rapipi is better.

[upper grove]

imagine being insane enough to invest rocks in ada vesti instead of rapi SWHA for pve (raid)

lemme just invest in absolute trio only for ziz, good rocks usage

[swift mango]

I already saw them saying Rapipi is better than SW but just ask them again to confirm.

[upper grove]

I know she is better than SW because her dmg application is better for stages

[swift mango]

On neutral

[hollow lagoon]

It’s not a which is better, it’s different usage case based on the fights

[upper grove]

I don't have to ask when I know

[hollow lagoon]

It ain’t hard to figure out just read your kits

[swift mango]

I mean not like this is a discussion it's obvious when Rapi is SSS and SW not.

Idk why we even discussing this

[upper grove]

me neither

[hollow lagoon]

You started it

[swift mango]

I gave my example and not a discussion.

[hollow lagoon]

Ur example started it

[swift mango]

The discussion was if the top guys are all stupid and not use the best possible lines up of 5 teams when they know about it.

[strong hull]

You tell me

[hollow lagoon]

Left over bits of ancient era they still use Alice

Let me know if you are going to copy that Alice team too

On mobile cuz it’s obviously the best

[swift mango]

There are aim bot and auto clickers macro. They have optimal dmg easily.

[swift mango]

Nah I can't even copy their team, I don't have half of the units.

[hollow lagoon]

I would just vesti and raven offburst

And Cindy

Something along the lines of that

[upper grove]

because she is one of the few fire b3 available after xdiesel rapi and mihara

[swift mango]

And macro exists.

[hollow lagoon]

Breh ur not baiting me into rolling Alice

[upper grove]

ofc newer accs shouldn't use alice

mine is 1.5 years old and I had an old invested alice from early malding, she is 76% ele 29% atk, still worth using in my case

[swift mango]

Some people use Libby instead of Alice

[hollow lagoon]

U actually can’t really macro in pc anyway the client don’t let Meuse my Logitech one so I just click better

[swift mango]

That's why I said they use same 4 teams. Not same 5 teams.

[hollow lagoon]

O idk

I’ll screen shot top people teams and prove the legitimacy of Alice supremacy in reverse

Surely they know better

Thous people only using 4 of the same team surely is not running the best lineup

[swift mango]

Best is Alice version but not everyone wanted to mald with her so they use Libby. And lose a bit dmg

[hollow lagoon]

lol global #3

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-clapping-clap-applause-amazing-gif-16078907558888063471

U the boss

[upper grove]

hayde kicked helm from rapipi team to use her instead of reiF

Rei mega washed unless big invest

[swift mango]

7b is actually lower than most guy using helmt

[hollow lagoon]

He also use helm in Alice what a chad he must click frame perfect like a god

[upper grove]

same reason why I won't invest in ReiF base OL, might be obsolete by the time of next fire SR

[hollow lagoon]

I have ReiF and she’s there to exist

The days when I just pulled for collection sake

[swift mango]

I invest Rei because she is at least useful in Arena. Unlike Asuka

We aren't the same

[upper grove]

asuka and alice carried me through early campaign until chapter 25, fond memories

[swift mango]

Sugar Carried me up to chapter 17.

[hollow lagoon]

Wasuka choice is valid

[cursive rampart]

@upper grove

I think you should try switching up the mast

[upper grove]

tell me how to survive, do you kill 1st big ball?

[cursive rampart]

nope

[swift mango]

@hollow lagoon now convince this guy to use your "better teams"

[hollow lagoon]

That Miranda is OLed

[swift mango]

Instead of the "copy pasta top team but not best team."

[cursive rampart]

but i am able to kill all the balls even when mast is stunned on the first lot

[hollow lagoon]

He’s not copy pasta

[swift mango]

That's the copy pasta top team rn but Libby instead of Alice wtf.

[hollow lagoon]

Cindy and lib

[swift mango]

Yes

[hollow lagoon]

Well show me who use Cindy and lib together on top 10 then

[upper grove]

okay so she is always stunned during the small ball spawns right? I can't figure out any other timeline in the fight, delaying/doing QTEs asap doesn't change that

[cursive rampart]

she was only stunned on the first set iirc

this guy ran the same team also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPUuwWwVn8w

[swift mango]

Top 8 is SEA.

It's copy pasta

[hollow lagoon]

Different universe

Not my universe

[cursive rampart]

i'm not sea

[upper grove]

yeah I saw that one as well

[swift mango]

I mean people using it a ton

[upper grove]

rapipi not being highest team in fire weak SR is insane still

[cursive rampart]

it make sense. if your fire units are crap, don't use them

[upper grove]

I think the privaty/mmast swap will pay off for me when I get more atk on xdiesel

[hollow lagoon]

She’s not highest in mine either

[swift mango]

It's Cindy, Libby, Alice, Helm, Rei, or Mordenia for the left over.

[cursive rampart]

i ran out of good offburst so i kept modernia. she is zero ele though

[swift mango]

Still the same structure of Liter+Grave+Mordenia+2dps.

[cursive rampart]

and she helps with the balls

[swift mango]

That's copy pasta

[cursive rampart]

i don't think there will be much diversity this sr

[swift mango]

Now @hollow lagoon go and convinced him to use your unique teams.

Surely would give him better score

[hollow lagoon]

I mean xlude you could try that, or delta ninja (dmg taken+heal) since you have Cindy u can prob crash into some mechanics without covering

Since your Modernia is 0 ele it could do it

[cursive rampart]

yeah maybe

[upper grove]

main usage for me as well, 40% something ele

[hollow lagoon]

U can even try velvet to boost lib/cindy (caster atk and charged dmg up) but thous 2 don’t scale too much with charged dmg

Small Rocks shouldent be issue with grave anyway

[cursive rampart]

much of a muchness it seems

slightly less

[hollow lagoon]

So it is

[cursive rampart]

40 ele would be super worth then

[upper grove]

just checked, 45% ele mod, pulling her weight

[shell hazel]

swapping up mast doesn't seem to help me but that makes sense because my rapi is much stronger than my xdie

[swift mango]

Tell me ur Rosa skill level

[cursive rampart]

the main reason it works is because diesel really wants atk, not just during burst. not much you can do if your diesel is lacking though.

[shell hazel]

yeah mine has no atk 😄

it's a trade for me swapping them more or less, one team goes up, the other goes down, but my net is the same

[hollow lagoon]

@swift mango still worse

So yes I do know better

You may ask zant if zant will magically do more damage if zant run’s zant’s comps

[crystal flicker]

I only can 10B

[brazen ledge]

Hi guys, when do you use bayT in pvp and what is the usual team with her

[crystal flicker]

Pin for Moran Noah comp, you use Bay there instead

[brazen ledge]

That’s it ?

But it’s useless since we have blanc and Noah already that are better

[crystal flicker]

You can use them for other comp tho

[undone blaze]

Same teams but now I cant beat them?

2 days ago

This is the other team I skipped, despite the low cp it looks annoying

[noble python]

Are you not on the left?

[undone blaze]

I am

Its a screenshot

From 2 days ago

[noble python]

Did their dolls change at all

Like did they get SR 15 dolls on certain things

[undone blaze]

I have no idea, cp difference doesn't seem that drastic

[placid bloom]

what team you lost to, team 1?

[noble python]

I’d assume they lost to Team 2 since that was the closest one it seems

[undone blaze]

Is my throwaway to the noise/nayuta

[placid bloom]

they could've just fixed their Jackal link their first one didn't even get to burst with Blanc

it just look like Nayuta 9s indom

then again they are slow and giga feed so Idk if fixing link even help

I don't think Noah dies to 4 shot Vesti if Noise HP buffed

[noble python]

Show us what changed with their other teams

[placid bloom]

but maybe at this sync they are naked

so still dead

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit

[placid bloom]

only take some ele on Vesti to clap naked Noah

[noble python]

Yeah we def need more info

[undone blaze]

nvm, i see now that he swapped lib and nayuta

[placid bloom]

okay he fixed links

you can still clap him with Vesti maybe

it's full wind

but Idk if you have investment

[undone blaze]

My vesti is 5/5/5, no ol

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

she's such a closet perv

[glad meteor]

The closet is wide open

[cedar sorrel]

Is moran usable at 2ol 777 sr5?

[lone sequoia]

at your sync you can use the units you want

[undone blaze]

I guess that did it

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit damn no new privity sticket it seems

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disappointment-disappointed-WXb

[tropic summit]

depends, with a biscuit sure, without a biscuit a bit less

[hollow lagoon]

she was cute in this event as well

not as flirty as arcana tho

which imo is better

but like

the state of us is we went into the event with arcana already in the gf and privity didnt do much yet

and come out basically with arcana near waifu tier and privity gf tier

this event is a W

[tropic summit]

yes and no, i'd have actually expected a bit better

storywriting and comedy is fine, but presentation is still too oldschool

it has no innovation or no "new" systems

[hollow lagoon]

i liked it but i also dont play vn much

so its more fresh for me

[tropic summit]

ye those who played a good chunk of VN won't be impressed

we've VNs that are trying to be something more than just a VN

nikke took the oldschool approach, which is fine but also a bit bland

[undone blaze]

Took care of the other guy who also beat me while I was sleeping....how I lost to 2 "basically never" burst teams is something

I assume he used his 2 RL to beat one of my core teams then beat my -8000 RL team

[placid bloom]

early arena nobody really has time to build meta, you can even beat over meta team with campaign team if the CP gap is big enough

[undone blaze]

You say that but like most of the ppl in my bracket all have full teams of meta units

[placid bloom]

well it is normal to have like 1.5-2 teams of meta and 1 CP pad I think

3 full team at that sync should not be easy

[undone blaze]

Yeah, usually but a few do have at least 2 insane teams

[placid bloom]

high challenger is always like that

it's not like you can expect low challenger or diamond to have that

[undone blaze]

I guess so, just kinda annoying

[cedar sorrel]

And what is her use?

[noble python]

Hai Rail :3

[noble python]

To help tank damage

[rich agate]

Can I get some help with my SP arena teams? I don't usually keep up with pvp that much and I've been struggling to make a solid 3rd team. Yes I bricked my Centi. Upgraded her right when patch dropped without checking first

[noble python]

Ufff that Centi brick hurts she would be good in so many teams if not for the brick

[rich agate]

Drives me crazy that I cant use her, part of the reason im strugging honestly

I didnt play when It happened to poli so I had no idea something like that was even possible

[noble python]

Yeah thankfully I kept my eyes here before getting any of the treasures or well attempting to get them anyway

So I got to avoid the brick but others are not so lucky

[noble python]

Also what are your 2 other teams I don’t wanna try and recommend you a 3rd team of units that are already being used

[rich agate]

I dont mind fully switching things up but ive been using moran/noah/Vesti/emilia/Maiden and Jackal/ Blanc/SW/HelmT/Biscuit

I didnt know label basically removed scarlet from the meta so Im SoL for my 3rd

[rich agate]

Also moran isnt maxed yet, mostly using her instead of Noise for CP

[noble python]

What about: Rumani, Trina, Non summer Anis, Red Hood, LaplaceT for 3rd team

[noble python]

Fair enough

[noble python]

Also this might be me nitpicking but you should move Noah and Blanc to P4/P5 so they don’t get sniped by VestiTU early and lose you the round

Assuming that Jackal and Moran is P1 and Maiden and Biscuit are P5 according to how you listed them

[rich agate]

yeah they are, I was wondering thinking about that too but didnt think about it much since my main op is much lower in cp

I can try this team only thing is itll be much lower in power

Any cubes necessary?

[noble python]

Not really since the team is 2RL even without Quantum cubes

And that’s usually what necessary cubes are thrown in

And I tried making other teams but they all are 3RL which isn’t great especially if you wanna be competitive

Even with Quantum cube on those who would want it

If it was 2.5RL that would be ok but you ideally want 2RL on each team

Since otherwise enemy just bursts sooner than you and then you likely lose bc of that

[rich agate]

Yeah that makes sense, would it be worth trying to move things around on the other teams? my vesti team is 2.5 atm

[noble python]

Yeah I would suggest moving things around fs since most of your high RL units are all bunched together leaving basically scraps for a T3

Heck I’m lucky I could even find a way to make a 2RL T3

[rich agate]

What would you recommend? I usually end up sitting in the deck for a while then end up making something thats not great anyway

I def need to invest more in ada and laplace at somepoint

[noble python]

Yeah

[cedar sorrel]

Ada is so good in all forms of content

Nayuta ada has been so useful in high defi pushing too

She also let me beat MC at 30% defi with no cindy and ein

Not hard mode tho Im not there yet

[rich agate]

Damn I didnt realize How strong of a buffer she is

[cedar sorrel]

Buffer, lifesteal and true damage

With rrh as b1 u get 2 units getting the buff so when u combine nayuta with that for the distributed healing its like ur playing with helmt burst active always

[noble python]

Make T1: MoranT, Rumani, Emilia, Noah, Liberalio

Make T2: Jackal, VestiTU, HelmT, Blanc, Trina

Make T3: Rapunzel, SWHA, XMaiden, Anne Miracle Fairy, LaplaceT

Quantum cube on: Emilia, Rumani, SWHA, XMaiden, LaplaceT

I tried my best lol

[slate falcon]

Can request one of you guys to kindly build me teams for SP arena please

[rich agate]

alright ill try this out thank you, besides laplace and ada who else should I invest into?

[noble python]

Besides them invest more into Nayuta, Non Summer Anis, and PrivatyT

[noble python]

You still lack many core PvP units I would advise waiting till you get those core PvP units before making teams

[rich agate]

Damn I didnt know it was that bad jeez

[noble python]

It’s not really that it’s that bad it’s just the fact that Label making Cindy + Scarlet non viable on defense really hurt everyone

[rich agate]

just after I spent my mats too. Anis just needs 3 more skill upgrades after that it would be OL rerolls which seems like a waste. What is nayuta and Privaty good for now?

[rich agate]

I was wondering why I barely saw them anymore

[slate falcon]

Isn’t the only core units I lack are Libe, Nayuta, Siren and Redhood(and scar bs)?

[noble python]

Nayuta has similar Indom to Blanc

[slate falcon]

Can’t you build me some teams without them?

[noble python]

As for Privaty she’s became a great Nuke with the treasure

[rich agate]

Ah so she would end up as a core b3 I see. Alright ill keep all this in mind thank you for the help

[tropic summit]

@noble python there's lappyT, SWHA, drakeT, helmT, trina, noah, jackal, rumani

you can work with this

the rest use his invested B3s and pad a bit

[slate falcon]

These are I’m running currently but I’m still getting beaten

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 are way lower in CP than your other team, which happens to be also your stronger

rule n1 of defense teams: your defense is as good as your 2 worst teams

T2 is essentially ignored and skipped altogether

your defense is weak, low on CP and slow

[slate falcon]

So I should try to even out my cp? Or just make 2 good teams and one pad?

[tropic summit]

options are

(1)

• 1 CP pad
• 2 meta fast teams with high threat

(2)

• 3 balanced teams with equal or similar threat

avoid using teams that are meta but low on CP as they'll get CP diffed and become meaningless

[noble python]

Team 1: Moran, XMaiden, SWHA, Noah, DrakeT

Team 2: Jackal, VestiTU, LaplaceT, Blanc, Centi

Team 3: Rumani, Trina, Rapi Red Hood, HelmT, Noir

I think I did good maybe

Ehe 😅

[tropic summit]

T3 is very cope, other 2 would be fine, let him post CP first anyway so you can benchmark

[noble python]

Ok

[noble python]

Am curious what makes T3 cope btw Rail?

[tropic summit]

low threat, RRH takes time to wipe enemy team and you're antinukeless, no biscuit, no DR, team is with their pants down

also single B1 in p1 and team feeds heavily (SG+MG)

while you clearly can't cover for all weakness, try to reduce them

[slate falcon]

These are cp

[slate falcon]

[noble python]

Hmmm Team 2 is lowest CP by a decent margin…

[slate falcon]

In the first com I showed if swap lappy and drake and get a good cp would the team work?

[tropic summit]

fom what i see you could run 3 archetypes

2RL-2.5RL scarlet
2RL-2.5RL indom
2RL.2.2RL moran/noah/swha

@noble python see if you can arrange the above

[noble python]

Ok I can try but isn’t Scar just invalidated by Label tho?

[tropic summit]

if he has no other option, you don't have a choice

[noble python]

Fair enough

[slate falcon]

I’m low sync so I don’t a lot of people will build label

Who knows it’s 50/50

[tropic summit]

@noble python these are your main B3 options

swha and vestiTU both prefer work behind noah or indom

scarlet can work with indom or glass cannon

helmT needs a DPS team if she's main B3, cuz alone she doesn't threat enough

you could potentially have also privT as main B3, but she'll need a lot of burst gen to make up for her lack

keep in mind that you can't run indom now that i see it, jackal is not even R15

so that indom gonna need to be a glass cannon... cindy or scarlet could do in that case

[slate falcon]

Does jackal need be R15 run a idom comp? Or just by having more hp than the dps’s?

[tropic summit]

@noble python here to help you out, work on these skeletons, T3 choices are limited just slap padding and make it 3RL blanc with chance to indom either scarlet or vestiTU

[tropic summit]

she needs more HP than the DPS ye, but at least R15-SR5 to get a bit of DR on link

[slate falcon]

I see, I’ll try to get the R15 using the solo raid blue mats

[slate falcon]

How did you make this chart?

[noble python]

Team 1: Jackal, Trina, Cinderella, LaplaceT, BSoda

Team 2: MoranT, XMaiden, SWHA, Noah, Biscuit

[tropic summit]

both would look good

now ask him to show CP of all 3 and you can decide if to keep 2 meta teams + 1 cp or run 3 balanced meta teams

[tropic summit]

https://tinyurl.com/kosmiu-burst-gen-calc

[noble python]

If you don’t mind could you show us the CP of these teams in game using the same units ^^

[tropic summit]

@slate falcon this works similarly

https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

also is mobile friendly

[slate falcon]

I noticed yall didn’t use HemT so I put her in the 3rd team because I can’t use 2 trina

[slate falcon]

Ty

[tropic summit]

ye CP looks still bad, you're best aiming for 2 meta and 1 CP pad it seems

[noble python]

Agreed

Also me when T3 has no B1 lol

Indom ain’t even happening

[strong hull]

You tell me

[slate falcon]

Isn’t Rapi RH a b1?

[noble python]

Oh right

[tropic summit]

for CP pad run this, other 2 teams you've most utilities still open

make 2 teams with SWHA/helmT/moran/noah/rumani/trina/scarlet/privT

noir xmaiden lappy are also open to contribute to burst gen

[slate falcon]

I hope the game blesses me with a Nayuta or Libe to make my team building easier

Question, if I build PivyT would she be good replacement for Cindy in case someone in my bracket builds a label?

Hmmm?

[tropic summit]

this team gonna get skipped

you need to distribute your strong units

assuming the other teams are equally as strong would be a different story, but with your box if you use all of these in the same team this team gonna be skipped

[slate falcon]

I see. could I should the cp’s and you judge?

[ancient wedge]

Can someone help me build 3 sp arena teams?

[tropic summit]

to validate if your defense is good, put yourself in the attacker and search for the 2 weakest teams

@slate falcon

step 1) which are 2 easiest teams? oh these 2 are lower CP, i can even gap one of them
step 2) which is the strongest team? ok i'll skip this one
step 3) ok i go with this

[tropic summit]

ye make the teams and post them no problem

[slate falcon]

If I use centi she will drop my cp a lot because no doll same for Biscuit but she biscuit so she maybe gets a pass

[slate falcon]

No that you say it like this it makes more sense if I build one strong I myself would skip it and take out the easier 2

[tropic summit]

ye that's excatly how your opponents will think

[tropic summit]

these look decent CP range wise but cindy team is very bad

i'd turn vestiTU team into glass cannon by taking away blanc and using blanc + biscuit for a pseudo slow cindy in team 3

[undone blaze]

Isn't having an MG in P1/2 kinda bad? because it gives the enemy more burst?

[tropic summit]

@slate falcon

[slate falcon]

Yeah you right, but I’m kind of low on options

[tropic summit]

MG/SG/AR/SMG in any position is bad because they all will feed regardless

but considering his synchro and his box, he will at least need some units to pad

[slate falcon]

Ty, question would building Anis(base) and Noise help with my lack of characters?

I heard she good burst gen

[placid bloom]

if your sync low enough you can use Anis naked just as battery but she will not hold up for long

it looks like you are maybe around the sync that people are at MC, which is usually when they are walled long enough to actually work on PvP units

so Anis can very quickly become unusable

when your opponent team's CP starts going up

giving her OL + doll can delay it a bit but it's not a long term investment

just a way to get some power temporarily while you praying you pull better units

[slate falcon]

You guessed right I’m stuck on MC right now

[placid bloom]

it's not guess, this is normal account progression rate

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta naga swha siren drake
• jackal lib blanc s.doro rrh
• noah biscuit sbs trina rh

Notes

• treasure helmT asap
• build rumani, ada, centi, blanc, biscuit
• wishlist/build vestiTU

[tropic summit]

anis yes, noise she's just regular mag RL, so average burst gen

[slate falcon]

Way to kill my hype couldn’t you let me feel special I got this far without a crown it was painful

[river dune]

How to beat this?

[hollow lagoon]

indom it

i guess

some sort of vesti ada indom

[tropic summit]

swha blanc rh centi jackal

there's no biscuit so he won't need vestiTU + ada variant

[river dune]

Ty

[hollow lagoon]

oh tru

no leechy helm either

[tropic summit]

mhm

[hollow lagoon]

eazy clap

[tropic summit]

i'd clap arcana

[hollow lagoon]

i clap her too

I got caught

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/high-five-anime-3

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nikke-7bRRS9KoFWPcGKWOxM

[tropic summit]

simp

but relatable

[hollow lagoon]

privity route was good too

but had to do some replays to get the true ends so it disconnected and didnt feel as good i would need to do a rerun

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shirosaki-hana-anime-nod

[hollow lagoon]

but arcana student x student true end was 1 go and that was just blessed

[placid bloom]

I didn't even read any of it, I just look at album a bit

[tropic summit]

zant about to fall in the VN rabbit hole

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

seem too time consuming

[hollow lagoon]

i spent the weekend raiding and reading

its like theXlude winter event

takes a lonnnng time to finish

[tropic summit]

that's what sh-

wonder what part 2 is gonna look like

maybe we gonna go all the way and put the 💍 on it

[hollow lagoon]

i dont mind

[tropic summit]

inb4 we get the afterstory aswell

[hollow lagoon]

i dont mind, i max dolled her already its just another ring

[slate falcon]

I’m too smooth brain understand this event how to I get a different ending

[hollow lagoon]

u do the path mode

get items and pick the choices

[slate falcon]

So I should just replay and repick ?

[tropic summit]

when you return to a choice you did before, if you already picked it, it will have a logo

that's an easy way to tell choices you didn't do yet, simply pick those and discover the new routes

repeat that process until you explored all choices

some choices are locked until you clear certain paths

[slate falcon]

I see

[swift mango]

for you only.

[hollow lagoon]

worse is worse

[noble python]

Be glad you can even score high I can’t score worth a damn on these lol

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sleep-gif-16897328122899297146

[swift mango]

simp

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

label simp

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[slate falcon]

Is this the limit for now?

[lone zodiac]

Any recommendation for beating this?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doro-nikke-5

[covert lintel]

becoming one with arcana is bad ending

[tropic summit]

the result does not excuse the methods

too much love or too much lust can lead to failure

control your impulses and do it right

[swift mango]

depend on how strong your vesti is. Simplest is just kill their Noah so they can't burst.

[lone zodiac]

Got any good team rec? Maybe find team to buff vesti?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango watch your language

[swift mango]

control ur pen#s

[tropic summit]

indeed

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/woah-sorry

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit he got caught

[swift mango]

There is no hard counter to that team because moran DR, it's all depend on your investment

if Vesti has enoigh ATK and ele, just go

Moran+Noah+Biscuit+Vesti+LapT

or Absolute vesti team

[tropic summit]

can't blame him, he couldn't resist

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[swift mango]

send you box and @tropic summit if you wanted actual team that you can use.

[tropic summit]

send your box and @swift mango so he doesn't escape his responsabilities

[covert lintel]

Next unlock is another student?
Don't tell me rei too

[hollow lagoon]

me neither

[tropic summit]

oops we forgot who was the main grill again

[hollow lagoon]

i see that's how the zippers work

very enlightening

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-shy-laugh

[covert lintel]

She was just coping, not actually do it like arcana

[tropic summit]

she can still play the "we had a child together" card tho

[hollow lagoon]

ye that's unique

[tropic summit]

for now

[covert lintel]

through transplantation?

[tropic summit]

considered how privaty was essentially her longtime rival for SKK

this would be a massive backstab

[jolly solar]

i want to take SP arena more serious now, but just using tierlists i am feeling a bit lost. can i get some advice as to how to structure a couple teams?

[hollow lagoon]

ye rapi's story was kinda weird, privity and arcana got a lot of development

[tropic summit]

yes post your box or blabla link set to public

[tropic summit]

they gonna need to do this for several nikke, hell i'd take that kind of "surface content" mode instead

[hollow lagoon]

invest moran teasure, invest swha, invest helmT, invest vesti

[hollow lagoon]

im cool with it, make it advanced bonding and at the end of it u get a couple rocks and some base ele stats

[covert lintel]

Yeah
The child that she claimed is actually bahamut's job

[hollow lagoon]

kek surrogate mother

[jolly solar]

is this the link? https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTI5Mjg2MjUwODc2MzAzNzU3MzE%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTI5Mjg2MjUwODc2MzAzNzU3MzE%3D

[tropic summit]

ye it works, now make it public

[swift mango]

Not much there is,

The option I already listed.

Vesti team that is tanky p1 with LapT, Emi sub dmg

Bring Absolute member to boost Vesti.

Or just 4.5rl slow Cindy with Blanc it if you had the dmg.

Rapu stun to 3.5rl Libby was well.

In the slow teams make sure to get their team to 2rl if they didn't.

Or out trade with biscuit and HelmT/Privaty stun.

Privaty stun, siren, Rapu.. etc to stun Noah, or SW and reset her.

Build it yourselves whichever works for you. Since never sent you box don't ask why it worked for other but not for you.

[jolly solar]

like this ?

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?openid=MjkwODAtMTI5Mjg2MjUwODc2MzAzNzU3MzE=

[tropic summit]

yep works now

taking a look

[jolly solar]

i should have a lot of good nikkes built

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rrh sbs
• jackal scarlet tia blanc vestiTU
• moran privT SWHA drake noah

Notes

• finish building helmT (treasure phase 2, s1 lvl 10)
• build up your utilities, especially jackal, blanc, rumani, trina, centi, noise, biscuit, noah (wishlist any you're missing)
• to run proper indom jackal should be at least 4OL and doll R15-SR5
• consider treasuring laplace
• wishlist/build RH, liberalio and siren

[jolly solar]

thanks a lot. you really saved me

i am only missing Siren and Crown on my whislist, ill build RH and liberalio then

[tropic summit]

once siren and RH are up to date you'll sub RRH for RH and drake for siren

you'll want to also change T2 eventually, vestiTU is better as main indom than offburst battery, but you'll need the utilities above better built first

[arctic jewel]

Lmao

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[arctic jewel]

I think the student routes have been great so far, Privaty teacher route was also great

[hollow lagoon]

yep

[undone blaze]

Are there any improvements I can make to my lineup? https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNDgxMjUzMDI3ODA5MjQ4MjE2NQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNDgxMjUzMDI3ODA5MjQ4MjE2NQ%3D%3D I plan on working on Vesti's only T9M gear as well as getting her to 7/10/7 (since she's not the main B3 burster)

[lone zodiac]

Works already thanks! I used noise noah biscuit vestiTU lapT. Enemy got to burst but my team somehow outlast their team. I’m still new to the box thingy, how do I set them up?

[tropic summit]

teams look fine with what you've atm

finish helmT asap

wishlist liberalio, siren, RH, SWHA

[undone blaze]

I would have done her instead of PrivaT but I only have 2 copies of Helm atm

And yeah all of those are on my wishlist

aswell as Rumani, Biscuit, Moran

[tropic summit]

for box we mean your nikke roster, either blabla link set to public or your box like this #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

good, you could use all of those utilities to fix better and faster teams

@hollow lagoon https://sg-cdn.blablalink.com/standalonesite/ugc/public/image/9a4752dc-b848-4c19-8a70-3bb0cdf5b2cf.gif?height=711&width=400

assuming your rosanna is 40%atk and a bit of ele

noah biscuit helmt ros jackal

ye you'll lethal their main source of DPS

afteward your team wipes jackal and siren

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1483596490872979537/Nayuta.webp

seems correct

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-ok-14

[cedar sorrel]

@tropic summit these are the teams u made for me last time I just added moran over biscuit.

Do you think thats good enough or should I run biscuit over rumani? Or does moran existing mean I can overhaul my teams?

[gusty cliff]

hi

[cedar sorrel]

Yo

[gusty cliff]

sorry im trying to get my blabla link
but doesnt matter, i have almost all char. how should i setup arena? 🤔

havent kept up with pvp just want to get back the gems

[cedar sorrel]

It does depend on your investment still also since some chars are only usable at certain investments or CP becomes an issue

[gusty cliff]

hmm think i didnt invest in pvp chars in OL

[cedar sorrel]

Yea so thats why sharing your blabla on public is useful so everyone can see what youre working with

[gusty cliff]

i see. how to enable it? got lost

[cedar sorrel]

Like for example rosanna is a very good char u prob own but u need a lot of investment for her to be valid

[gusty cliff]

i just go to the nikkepedia and send the link?

[cedar sorrel]

Shiftypad on blablalink and then share

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 look fine, T3 at least has nuke resistance, would be nice B2ing with something that gives you more than centi B2 does... a bay or an anchorIM would be a good addon instead of centi

[cedar sorrel]

Moran biscuit tvesti centi lib?

My bay and anchor are quite weak

[gusty cliff]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTc4MDEzMTgyMTc1NzQzMDYxNzc%3D
this?

[versed mesa]

Is there any specific stats that would have value to focus on with Rumani, or is it better to just get charge speed and then the rest of the lines can be whatever for the CP?

[tropic summit]

the realistic B2 options are above

[cedar sorrel]

Why would biscuit not be effective?

[tropic summit]

she gives you nothing

[tropic summit]

CS%, rest is essentially CP fodder
situationally remotively def% because you can run her as pseudo tank, but she'll never reach the same level as moran or nero
give her atk% and ele atk% for CP

[tropic summit]

ye this works

[cedar sorrel]

My anchor is 474 0OL no doll

[tropic summit]

build her? she's needed in a few campaign bosses and in SRs

[gusty cliff]

🤔🤔so what can i do for a non pvp , pvp team
since i dont really invest in pvp rocks

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[gusty cliff]

i think its a standard layout but yeah
mainly pve/solo raid focused

[cedar sorrel]

I just passed chap 32 I dont think Ill be needing anchor before Ill be needing moranT for example so shes on the backburner

[versed mesa]

Got it, I got some def and charge speed on initial rolls, but just haven't had the rocks to get 3 lines. Her lack of CP is currently the biggest bottleneck for me to use her on defense

[cedar sorrel]

I put anchor on and the team is now 226k CP so I guess it is not a huge drop

Thanks for the help 💪

[versed mesa]

Though higher prio on Moran for now, since she has use in both PvE and PvP

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah exactly

[gusty cliff]

feel free to @me please thanks!

[versed mesa]

I have her fully treasured but rolls have been abysmal, I think the only piece with 3 lines has like charge speed on one of them

[swift mango]

2rl Nayuta is all the rate these days.

Especially when she is PvE meta and everyone has her high cp

[versed mesa]

Everytime I roll on characters that don't use it, I get charge speed or damage, anytime I roll on characters that could use charge effects, I get hitrate and defense

[cedar sorrel]

Yea she is very useful for me I like the units with double value like nayuta and swha

[swift mango]

Nayuta has 2 viable teams, 2rl Nayuta and Slow Cindy

[cedar sorrel]

Yup I use her on nayu RH

[versed mesa]

I think I should try and make something with Nayuta for my third sp defense team, get the indom and moran-noah-helmt for the other two

[tropic summit]

SP arena

start with these until you fix what's said in notes

• nayuta helmt centi rh laplaceT
• jackal liberalio xmaiden blanc drakeT
• noah biscuit SWHA siren bsoda

Notes

• build emilia, centi (you don't need to treasure her), moran (treasure her asap)
• wishlist trina
• build vestiTU

Once moran and emilia are built, get your teams upgraded
Furthermore once vestiTU is available

[tropic summit]

yeah it's very easy to make teams with her

SWHA, helmT, nayuta, liberalio, cindy, siren, moranT

these units should be well built in any box

[swift mango]

But not viable teams

There is only 2

[tropic summit]

2RL nayuta with siren resistance is more than good enough

2.5RL nayuta is still ok-ish, will force some cards from opponent to deal with it at least

[cedar sorrel]

The indom letting her sponge the p1 dmg is very useful and easy to use biggest issue is mermaid in my experience but if u can make ur def in a way that ud wanna use mermaid on more than 1 team ur kinda spreading them thin potentially

[gusty cliff]

where’s the notes btw

[vocal kelp]

@tropic summit sorry to bother again, you didnt put wich cubes I nned to use? or its irrelevant?

[cedar sorrel]

Where it says notes in the msg

[tropic summit]

just read what i typed?

[swift mango]

It's only a joke team at that point, unless you use Label to stop scarlet slash.

Oh wait, Rosa Nayuta is also viable.

[gusty cliff]

fk sorry im blind
ok thanks
i just finished moran treasure today haha

[versed mesa]

Also C3 lost 4 times trying to take it back from me today, even though I didn't change my teams at all from yesterday, no idea why when he cleared them just fine with one attempt yesterday

[gusty cliff]

trina was off guard
forgot to pull for her but ok maybe ill try to force it out

[tropic summit]

except scarlet better be 1.5RL or you'll have her deleted by nayuta

keep in mind a lot of people don't have rapunzel and soline built for that variant

[cedar sorrel]

Thats why u gotta keep track of ur atk teams otherwise u have this happen lmao

[gusty cliff]

have a good day
ill head to sleep first.
kept as a memo for my ref

[tropic summit]

oke cheers

[swift mango]

2.5rl burst 2 is after 2rl b3
And you can just siren it.

[tropic summit]

might be running RNG team

e.g relying on crits

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spellwizard-4

[versed mesa]

Oh well, he loses gems either way, while it means I don't get 3k, he is already down over 1000 gems for this season

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-heath-ledger-joker-introduce-a-little-anarchy-anarchy-gif-5390031

[tropic summit]

nayuta any
trina quantum
helmT any
RH any
noir any

moran tempering
Bay tempering
biscuit tempering
swha tempering
lib any

jackal quantum
rumani quantum
cindy any/vigor/resil
vestiTU quantum/resil
noah tempering

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/darkelfcarla-kono-healer-mendokusai-mendokusai-thumbs-up-carla-gif-2218835310988481153

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nikke-doro

[versed mesa]

I think I should level tempering next. I have Resilience, quantum and 1 level away from having bastion fully maxed at lvl 15

[cedar sorrel]

Boss

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-im-come-gif-9804446336365187792

[vocal kelp]

great, thanks

[versed mesa]

Then again... I could MLB Nihilister

She has no use anywhere, but dragon booba

[vocal kelp]

this team can bear that? or im too low on FIREPOWER?!

[tropic summit]

you need 857k CP, also try to get them to misindom instead, run:

• noah biscuit helmt siren swha

this will force them to burst with helmT B3 and indom SWHA

since she'll then attack p1 due to taunt, you'll negate lifesteal while minimizing her damage output

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/nwNSdD41EZh.gif

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-toilet

[vocal kelp]

wait, so I need to change the team again?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/mNGmUJoRupF.gif

[tropic summit]

everytime you attack an archetype you may need to

[vocal kelp]

damn!

[tropic summit]

the only times you don't is if the opponent is running dumb teams

[vocal kelp]

lol I had no idea, maybe that why I never reach challenger ranges

[vale fossil]

your burst gen is not fast enough to nuke before blanc burst

[swift mango]

Build absolute and kill everything that's not biscuit or Nayuta

[vocal kelp]

word? I love absolute team

eunwha my beloved

[versed mesa]

My Rookie defense hasn't changed in months and only my main rival who is also the C1 in my SP can beat it

[vale fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3bJOAyI8HU

[vocal kelp]

so the teams you recomend me before are for defense I assume

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/gpm0dx1SUFi.gif

[vocal kelp]

lmao

[tropic summit]

ye they're for def

they also double as general purpose but against actual opponents you may need to tweak them

archetypes have archetypes they're stronger or weaker against

your nayuta 2RL is good against a lot of archetypes but may lose against stalls and noah teams

[vocal kelp]

I only know that if they had a scarlet you need to use Noah lol

[tropic summit]

that's a good start

[vocal kelp]

and thats because I friend told me, still learning the rock paper scisors minigame of the arena

[versed mesa]

Finally cleared Elysion tower 1000 for another Elysion perfect mold. It gave me Guillotine

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/yYvdxRMZ3j.gif

https://tenor.com/kU8QlxSnpQT.gif

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/looney-tunes-dog-2

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doro-2

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/hO2cba2d1dB.gif

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/stellar-blade-doro-nikke-cute-funny-gif-15156192218722879341

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

Woah holy rng, got Rumani from SR doll lvl 10 to 15 with 20 blue ones into Super Success

Tempted to try my rocks for today but I guarantee shit rolls because of that now

Gonna just stockpile for a few days instead

[burnt prairie]

anyone know if noah's burst 3 sec invulnerability gives CC immunity as well? For example, if privaty uses her burst when everyone is invul.

[placid bloom]

no, you can be stunned during invin

only protects against damage

[burnt prairie]

ty

[swift mango]

My rock luck was shit for the whole month but at least I got her SR15

Now I can rest in peace

[tropic summit]

dafuq you really built her

[swift mango]

There is no escape DEF line.

3/5 rolls are def line 2.

[tropic summit]

told you to leave it alone

this is karma

[swift mango]

I need ammo.

[tropic summit]

the game knows and that's why it gives you def%

you need to reroll that line when the game least expects it

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-chess

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/eO1IXtbnLNq.gif

[swift mango]

Now Idk if I want Ele or CS.

[arctic jewel]

these sort of rerolls give me PTSD

I genuinely hate how this whole thing works

[swift mango]

Yeah, I think it's really how this game work

[tropic summit]

you're so easily influenced i worry for your future

[tropic summit]

told you already, leave that piece alone

either that or lock line 1 and reroll line 2

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-green-mile-gif-17328904180409510666

[hollow lagoon]

Me too

[lethal karma]

When you said build batteries like rumani or trina, basic OLs and charge speed are only whats needed right? @tropic summit

[swift mango]

Whatever I do it's zero improvement. 30 rocks already

Lock line 1 or reroll attributes or just lock like 3

It's always nothing

Now I will just half retire

Since nothing I could do anymore

See you in another another 2 CA rock

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

it means bring them to R15-SR5, 4OL and 4/4/4

the CS% is cherry on top if you can bring them to 11% or 15%

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I had this cursed lib swap with snow white but it somehow gave me a little more damage

[wind kelp]

Got label from daily, a day before team buildings, and i got lvl 5 set of gear on nero ready. Guess we're building her just in time :p

[tropic summit]

You're exaggerating—just a few rocks going to shit won’t kill you. Just start saving already

[arctic jewel]

ugh... this Solo Raid will go really poorly for me

[wind kelp]

Ah crap, someone remind me tomorrow morning to grab the winner teams. Not that i'm mandated to do so, but helping folks otu is good karma 😄

[shell hazel]

I don't pvp main anymore just build shit for SPA - shooting range main now like Rail

@tropic summit you watched lord of mysteries?

[arctic jewel]

so far I've only used it to check things such as Jackal links, are there other reasons to play it?

[shell hazel]

mocks for union raid, not perfect but it's not usually miles away from what you can do on the bosses either

[arctic jewel]

aah, I see, basically for testing purposes

[shell hazel]

yup, but yeah jackal links otherwise though I think I head into Ai for that

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll defeat you one day

[tropic summit]

he never stops growing

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll have to give up soon enough

[tropic summit]

he may be a danger to humankind

[tropic summit]

lord of mysteries? animu?

[shell hazel]

yes but it's a chinese one

but it's good production values

[tropic summit]

hmm i generally don't watch chinese ones, is it gud?

[shell hazel]

it's worth a try I think - we follow Klein who gets isekaid into the world we're set in

in this world people can drink potions to get powers, they're known as beyonders. sequence 9 through sequence 1 (starts at 9)

it's kind of victorian england vibe going on

but it's got a horror mystery thing going down too

like lovecraftian theme

[tropic summit]

graphic wise looks good

interesting theme, i'll write it down

ratings are also fairly high, sitting at around 8.5

[shell hazel]

from what I can tell they plan to do multiple series as well

[glad meteor]

🤖

[shell hazel]

oh yeah the production is good, it uses a fair bit of 3d but I think it works well

I left 300M of damage off mine lol. I didn't know how miranda worked with mihara

I won't re-run today. I'll do it tomorrow when I get last xbrid ol

still 20B inc I know I can do it now

[hoary hill]

bro i got a question are you in the union thighgap

[shell hazel]

or Ada apparently. I have some studying to do

[arctic jewel]

about Recycling Room, are there like any recommendations on what to invest on?

[finite scarab]

theres a google sheet for burst gen calculation, can someone link me. i copied the sheet earlier, and halfway working on it, it broke...

[shell hazel]

Warheart is in my CA I will hunt him down next CA

[hoary hill]

pls do so

[arctic jewel]

uhmmmmmm... yes? 😅

[hoary hill]

frick

where same bracket

never thought to see you in dc lmao

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/intrigued-annie-murphy-alexis-alexis-rose-schitts-creek-gif-5087208394393986611

[arctic jewel]

oh?! what's your tag?

[hoary hill]

1 place in sp arena uff i remember like months ago when i thought against you i think for 4th place and then you and d palading basically switched places

[hoary hill]

Harveysp currently 8th place

been slacking a bit lmao

[arctic jewel]

uuuughhhh... that guy is such a pain to deal with, he must have some kind of ego

[hoary hill]

nice crazy to see

[hoary hill]

rly didnt knew xd

[arctic jewel]

but yeah, I remember you

[hoary hill]

so random but nice to meet you ig this makes my day lmao

[arctic jewel]

same! I remember we fought many times during the early days, when I learned that you can earn 3000 gems for each SP Arena season, I wanted to start building PvP teams

[hoary hill]

yea i remember that too not bad how you went tbh with being first place pretty goodge meanwhile me i need to do some upgrading to catch up lmao

but no rush that will take some time either way

[arctic jewel]

Rosanna

[hoary hill]

he could technically go with blanc tvesti and then some other burst gen

[arctic jewel]

My personal opinion is that with the different modes in Nikke, you have to dedicate to either PvE or PvP, otherwise it's gonna be difficult to accomplish anything

[arctic jewel]

Slower indom should work as well

[hoary hill]

true well iam trying to go into pvp again so imma save my materials until new story comes out and then eynchro up in the meantime i just try to minmax some of my pvp units then i should have more of a chance i suppose

[arctic jewel]

But Rosanna is pretty good against indom, as long as she actually gets rid of the main threats

[hoary hill]

true but technically a drunkscarlet team with fast burstgen also works or a swha or tuvesti team

[arctic jewel]

This is what I have to deal with btw

[hoary hill]

lucky me i suppose

this is costing hella gems another reason i suppose iam so low

some months ago i actually tried out and used gems xd to figure out best teams instead of doing it logical but it worked for me

[leaden canyon]

The only thing I know about that is that its one of the hardest to follow stories

[hoary hill]

but now i bing chilling with my teams and focus on upgrading

[arctic jewel]

That's what you should do, no rush

[hoary hill]

yea because the problem is how you see youre probably wasting way more gems then you actually get currently

[arctic jewel]

Btw, I don't mind if you're gonna ask how to beat my teams, not gonna hold a grudge xD

[hoary hill]

two people fighting you the only way is to either get ahead with synchro or minmax a bit with lines by getting high cs lines but yea

[arctic jewel]

I'll try to help you how to beat the other guys in our brackets as well

[hoary hill]

i think i already now probably my problem it mostly lies in my lines on my chars and also that i haven't gotten the talents and dolls up 2.5million cp is a bit to low but i also fail in terms of charge speed

[arctic jewel]

I'm honestly not gonna care too much about Rookie anymore, since it's just too difficult to do well there. SP Arena however does matter

[shell hazel]

if you're here, who is flying your ship?!

[hoary hill]

rookie arena xd havent done smt there in months honestly but sp arena i try to stay atleast challenger but i can already see my progress so yea i finna try to better my lines on some chars and level up talents and dollls and iam fine

[arctic jewel]

And the rewards are hot doodoo as well

[hoary hill]

true if you only buy the second row and not first and second row youre pretty fine

[arctic jewel]

But what do I know? Dpaladin and Disto seem to care about Rupee tickets

[hoary hill]

lmao i never knew that disto also attacked lmao i always thought hes like passive xd since backthen he was always 4th place or 5th place and had like high cp but i never saw him first place

[arctic jewel]

Quite the opposite, he's very obsessed

[hoary hill]

seems so lmao well iam lucky to not be high i remember what a pain in the ass it was keeping 4th place or second place at some time i was attacked by like 4 people

no interest in dealing like 4 people but that also meant my team wasnt good enough but that was quite annoiyng since i got kicked sometimes from 4th or 2th place to like diamond or challenger 10

[arctic jewel]

It is what it is, it's understandable if it's SP Arena, but also, people love to go against weaker opponents

You know what, f it

[hoary hill]

i mean its a bit daunting i suppose to go against higher since you automatically think you wont win even tho sometimes there teams arent that well optomized its just there high synchro or bad ol lines what gives them high cp

[arctic jewel]

Sent a friend request

[hoary hill]

nice ill try to accept my list currently full

[arctic jewel]

I think it's actually more motivating, I started to pester some of the higher ranked players and look where it got me

Although, when I learned how obsessed the others where, I was forced to build teams that had better defensive capabilities

All thanks to @tropic summit

😘

[hoary hill]

mr carry just like chime

they helped me out to in the early game until i just figured it out a bit by myself even tho iam still nowhere near there knowledge

[arctic jewel]

You'd be surprised how well matchup knowledge does, even against somewhat higher CP teams

[hoary hill]

thats true but at some point its just who has higher burst gen and better charge speed no and like higher synchro

of course you can go against higher people but if there like 30-40 synchro levels ahead its gonna be a bit harder i suppose

[arctic jewel]

That's a different story yeah

It's a bit annoying how advantageous it is for whales when it comes to synchro

[hoary hill]

iam sure i can go and win against 2.9million cp people but against 3.2 million cp i dont think so atleast not currently

[arctic jewel]

CA is a bit better since there's a level cap

[hoary hill]

true

[hoary hill]

yea but you also need 5 teams and investment in those 5 teams my problem backthen in CA since i invested to much into rh backthen instead of investing into multiple units having now problems to catch up a bit

[arctic jewel]

Btw, I don't know how active your union is, but learning that you are in this server, I could ask Thighgap if there are any spots left?

It's more PvE oriented

[hoary hill]

Erolive is currently at like 0.80% in ur

used to be tho in top 100 actually

[arctic jewel]

Lmao, better than ours then 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Now I'm embarrassed

[hoary hill]

all good

[shell hazel]

zanta and I were recruiting recently but we full now :p

we were 0.66% last raid

and beholden our awesome sheet of doom

[arctic jewel]

We're like 1.2%-ish or something

[shell hazel]

I'm TAV in the list ofc

[hoary hill]

i actually tryed to be in high unions at some point if i can and my synchro gets high enough and also damage wise i would like to join syukachu so edenalliance

[arctic jewel]

Rip, I'm currently pretty happy with Thighgap, but MAYBE when I get better in PvE (and ofc PvP), I'll maybe start looking for something else

[hoary hill]

i mean tbh you could go way higher what also would benefit your pvp

[shell hazel]

will try to remember next time we're recruitin

[hoary hill]

your synchro is 489 syukachu recruits at 501 so youre pretty darn close you know and if you do enough UR damage and the search i would take the oppertunity honestly or omni unions or midnight idk what its called now

[arctic jewel]

Well, yeah, probably

[arctic jewel]

That's the only issue, my PvE performance is... OK, I'll blame the OL rerolling xD

[humble tiger]

Uh... can someone check if this wins.

It probably won't.

[hoary hill]

i see then whats your last UR damage mine was 18b iirc

[hoary hill]

i mean it maybe could but if you just go replace like anchor with blanc and then put idk centi for burstgen that should do it

[gaunt pulsar]

use helm instead of lib to be sure, lib is slower and does nothing

if you need to save her for other team to win - you still faster even with lib, assuming he has siren and vesti linked and you have vesti and lib

[arctic jewel]

and also because I need to also build PvP Nikkes as well

so crystals are limited

[hoary hill]

i see

[shell hazel]

most UR units are also campaign pieces too tbh

rapi snow white sbs crown etc

[humble tiger]

[hoary hill]

true i mean in the end of the day after you somewhat optimized your pve pvp units you can start to minmax a bit more so it should be fine

like my wind and electric team still needs some polishing same with fire technically and water but there fine

[arctic jewel]

I honestly can't remember, but I think it was somewhere around there as well, very likely lower

[hoary hill]

i see then

[humble tiger]

Oh my god it's so bad.

[gaunt pulsar]

all you need for that t3 is for vesti not to fold, but with sr15 and on low level diff without ele advantage she shouldn't - vesti gets stunned > you burst before him, because of jackal link he going to receive more dmg with his vesti, however weird it looks with your box > looks doable, but preferably to be faster still

[arctic jewel]

do I dare to show my Rapi? xD

[hoary hill]

well your dmg should lie between 20-25b if we go with the list mine is actually for 441 pretty good at 18b but will be a bit lower without core

[hoary hill]

is your rapi also max core with 4ele 4ammo and 3atk i only got 3 atk xd need to reroll 4 atk line

[arctic jewel]

same, only 3 Atk lines on my Rapi as well

[gaunt pulsar]

if centi or trina doesn't force you into deficit i would rather use them instead of anchor but we need to move them to p4 probably, away from enemy vesti as your only b2

[hoary hill]

nice

[arctic jewel]

aaaaand only 2 Ele damage xD

[hoary hill]

dayumn

[humble tiger]

260K

[arctic jewel]

SU wants me to have Hit Rate on everything

[hoary hill]

well thats mine xd i got friggin instead of 4 atk line one black critical damage line

[humble tiger]

261K is the threshold, I can move cubes around or upgrade 1 piece without going OL or give blue doll to bridge the gap. @gaunt pulsar

[arctic jewel]

your Rapi is way better built than mine

[hoary hill]

yea favorite char xd

[humble tiger]

I think Libby and Cindy are linked.

[gaunt pulsar]

could touch up skills to lv5 too if some are 1 or 4

[humble tiger]

Oh wait yeah. It's Vesti and Libby.

[gaunt pulsar]

how?

oh ok

[arctic jewel]

our union has a Rapi fanatic that has black lines on everything except one stat which is defense

[hoary hill]

But i like rh more

[humble tiger]

Sorry. I assumed Cindy would have super high attack cuz she's built properly.

[hoary hill]

Damn not bad mine isnt as good my rh actually better lol

[arctic jewel]

but he then learned that he should have a Wind team for Kraken to get more crystals xD

like a week ago

[humble tiger]

There we go.

[arctic jewel]

jeez, wish I could build my wife

but PvP says NOPE

[hoary hill]

Look at my wife rh

[arctic jewel]

aaaand now I'm sad

[hoary hill]

Better invested then my rapi xd

[humble tiger]

That's so much better than mine.

[arctic jewel]

the only thing that's higher for me is the core

[hoary hill]

Also rh still usable in pvp technically as burst gen or dps i suppose

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah way better, should be a win speed is too far apart now, you clear him before he reaches b3, not sure if your t1 works or not though, unless you already tested

[hoary hill]

Bro if i could i would have gotten her max cors tbh but i have been very unlucky with rh tbh but at her rerun banner i got like 5 copies so yea

[arctic jewel]

ech, RH's burst gen is... OK, but not amazing

her B1 is great though

and I also used her as Siren bait

[humble tiger]

I should be faster. Let's try.

[hoary hill]

Well thats true but still usable technically you could use her as dps kn like a blanc comp with idk tmoran thelm and someone else for the fun

[humble tiger]

Actually, I'll do it next time.

[leaden canyon]

[hoary hill]

Because shes still good at destroying units with her ult and she also has some healing in her kit iirc

[arctic jewel]

atta boy

[hoary hill]

Besides rh also has other usages like in sr sometimes ur and campgain if you want to use her

[shell hazel]

[hoary hill]

Only reason why i got rapipi max core is because i spent 600 golden tix on last copies xd

[arctic jewel]

oh yeah, my wife ain't leaving the center spot, EVER

oh well, it's getting late, I need to go to bed

[hoary hill]

Same but i dont wanna change profile to rh yet or maybe i do idk i kinda like them both rapi and rh but yea

[arctic jewel]

you already know my opinion on that

[hoary hill]

Pfp in dc used to be doro version of rh

[hoary hill]

Yea

[arctic jewel]

nice talking with you, what a surprise!

Nini!

[hoary hill]

True never thought iam going to meet anyone from my bracket on dc

Was nice meeting you i send also friend request in dc

[shell hazel]

it still is?

[hoary hill]

actually i thought its laplace now

[shell hazel]

I just see red hood wherever I go

[hoary hill]

my current pfp is laplace not doro version or rh

this ticker is my pfp but cropped xd

i started to kinda like laplace more but also like the short comic versions with laplace

now its back to doro rh pfp

but then i would have the same as hyper

[shell hazel]

ah yes so it is 😄

[hoary hill]

[shell hazel]

birbdoro

[wild drum]

what happened to u hyper

[hoary hill]

[wild drum]

hello rh wife

[hoary hill]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/yatta-yes-heroes-time-travel-gif-5008315

considering the sync gap the cp isn't as different as it could be

[covert lintel]

Be careful if you have an account @swift mango

Especially if your email is linked to nikke as SU is not allowing us to change email

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit sanity is overrated

[swift mango]

I probably don't have an account. I may accidentally create one? Doubt.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

snake first try and its gone

being in a era when MoranT and SnowHA are a thing is great

[tidal lichen]

where comp

[lunar pawn]

yours + more dupes

[tidal lichen]

[umbral crown]

[unkempt kestrel]

I got 15% CS on reveal on ada. Is that useful for pvp CA?

or should I RR for att/elem

[umbral crown]

it is

[unkempt kestrel]

ty

[umbral crown]

but if you can get atk and ele is even better

so she will work for pve as well

[cobalt pawn]

im currently reallocating my synchro device, do these teams look decent enough? I am not that knowledgeable about pvp and just want decent enough teams for dailies

[crystal flicker]

T1 is overkill
T2 is rubbish
T3 is too slow

If this defender, also avoid using Elec dps

[plucky glen]

can someone help me form a team for normal arena pls

[noble python]

Assuming you mean Rookie arena its not really required that you have a good defense

[plucky glen]

alr

[cobalt pawn]

ok, what are some teams that are recommended? I tried looking through pins and prydwen/nikke.gg for teams and they are all very old without new units

[hollow lagoon]

Turns out liter was holding me back

[tidal lichen]

whats nayuta doing there

i barely have any investment on shotgun team besides skills

diesel missing 1 ele

[hollow lagoon]

My diesel has 50 ele

My rapi has 60

[lone rapids]

need help teams for sp pvp def

[hollow lagoon]

My Mihara has 70

My Drake has 40

[lone rapids]

been enjoying this teams for a month they finally beat it

[hollow lagoon]

That looks like my menu A

I’m sure if u can come up with that u can work out something interesting

[lone rapids]

iirc ur the one who gave it to me

[hollow lagoon]

[lone rapids]

ye been experimenting team 1 & 2 but ye after some days of repetitive hits they beating it

[hollow lagoon]

Where is rail when u need him

Oh u have Emilia

[lone rapids]

i have all units

[shell hazel]

you're cheating though

[hollow lagoon]

Change team 3 to one of these flavors I suppose

U don’t need quantum for scar version

And hope opponent ain’t running snipers to yeet you in reverse

I emma version has taunt but there’s a chance she don’t generate nuff burst before she dies

[lone rapids]

aye tnx

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/hakari-dance-hakari-kinji-hakari-jjk-hakari-jjk-dance-gif-5087158465488164326

[crystal flicker]

The pin is updated, since the last dedicated PvP unit that we have is SWHA, after that it just PvE unit

I recommend you get the SWHA Blanc team (2RL)
Moran Noah VesT HelmT 2RL
and another 2RL Nuke for t3

Cindy / PrivaT / Lib and bunch of RLs to reach 2RL

[cobalt pawn]

thank you

[tropic summit]

nayuta vestiTU swha RH liberalio

p.s. get helm treasured asap

[tropic summit]

wow stonks in reverse

[cobalt pawn]

im really struggling, im looking over the pins and guides and like every team recommends rumani/helm/swha but like... I have 1 obviously. idk how to prioritize, and it says for defence to not use cindy/scarlet so idk what to do...

so far I have these 3 "cores" idk:

blanc/swha/biscuit
Moran/noah/helmT/VestiTu
Jackal/Rumani

idk where I should actually put the "must use" units, do I split the 3 up? do I put them together? idk

[plucky glen]

im trying... out of maintenance kit

[tropic summit]

post your box / blabla link set to public

[crystal flicker]

Rail gonna cook

If your Cindy strong enough, she can bypass Label

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

[cobalt pawn]

I have every unit in the game other than:
Reg banner:
Delta ninja
Soline ticket
E.H.
Velvet
Arcana Fortune

Limited:
Sum neon/Dorothy
Xmas Guillotine/Anne/Mica
chainsaw man, emilia

[tropic summit]

doesn't tell me sh*t, need to see your invested units

blabla link set to public or box

[cobalt pawn]

welp ok

[tropic summit]

similar format to this is fine:
#pvp-arena message

or this if you prefer multiple SS:
#pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

Im an honest person

[cobalt pawn]

im struggling to get it all in 1 like that

[tropic summit]

first 5-6 lines is fine too

[cobalt pawn]

full OL gear stops at old diesel as of now

I was reallocating is why everyone is level 1 rn

[tropic summit]

why are all of these lvl 1?

not sure if dude is trolling or you're being serious

[cobalt pawn]

im serious

[tropic summit]

how can i tell invest if everyone is lvl 1

[cobalt pawn]

because everyone down to diesel T has OL gear maxed?

[tropic summit]

ok you gonna get half assed teams not my problem, gonna take a look

[cobalt pawn]

idk I can put everyone in the synchro if you want

would be in the same order no?

[tropic summit]

no leave it as is it's fine w/e

[cobalt pawn]

even if a unit doesnt have OL gear rn im fine with building them so if there is a good pvp unit I can work on her

[crystal flicker]

it's same stuff,

Winter Rupee and Sync 459
Cooked to the bone

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh laplaceT
• moran noah biscuit swha siren
• jackal vestiTU ada blanc drakeT

Notes

• finish doll on jackal, biscuit, noah
• finish treasure on moran
• build up vestiTU and SWHA if they're not done, finish their doll

[cobalt pawn]

any differences for ATK and DEF?

[tropic summit]

these are def teams, if you've no clue what you doing use the same for attacking

[cobalt pawn]

what would you do for atk

[tropic summit]

depends on the opponent teams you facing

[cobalt pawn]

I can learn when to move them

wait like you mean I should have more than 3 atk teams ready to go? and build on a fight by fight basis?

[tropic summit]

yes that's correct, especially so above dia1 anyhow

[cobalt pawn]

good thing I am firmly stuck in d1 then huh

[tropic summit]

most challenger know what they doing, so they'll actively change def from preventing casuals to learn their patterns

but up to dia1 you'll probably be fine

if and when you wanna try pushing harder you'll need to learn pvp

[crystal flicker]

What are you talking about

[tidal lichen]

[crystal flicker]

He has Modernia skin and still 459

[cobalt pawn]

ok so since I am doodoo shitter baby I just use the same ones. got it

[tropic summit]

ye assuming there are bricked fellows in his upper ranks

[cobalt pawn]

yes she does

[crystal flicker]

That sync at most is 3M

[cobalt pawn]

3m?

[crystal flicker]

This D1 bracket