pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

i see from OLs tho that helm has 0% atk, vestiTU and RH have 20% and 30%... so it might be an RH link

[strong hull]

Im here for 3 def rail-chan

[tropic summit]

post the box

[strong hull]

Ill give you the bla

[gaunt bane]

Hmm nope, Vesti & RH linked

Yea Helm has no atk OL, just remembered that

[strong hull]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtNjM0MjU3NDYwNDE1MTc2NTQ5MA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNjM0MjU3NDYwNDE1MTc2NTQ5MA%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

ok then we just let you burst with RH B1, get her stunned, nayuta B2 and then helmT B3

[gaunt bane]

Oh so you were counting on Helm getting stunned and vesti burst earlier?

[tropic summit]

helmT prefered here, she'll give you lifesteal

you're lethal regardless at nayuta B2

link will explode once she casts RH buffed nuke and after vestiTU landed 2 or 3 rockets

[gaunt bane]

I mean for this one, wont Helm get stunned?

[tropic summit]

on paper this is what you going for

[tropic summit]

you need p1 to be linked and a unit that does not interrupt your burst chain

arguably you could run p1 vestiTU and it solves it aswell

but don't wanna deny part of her damage

run the above and you should be bursting B1 with RH, RH stunned at B2, B2 with nayuta, B3 with helmT

enemy should lose p1 p2 and p4 at 2RL B2

in fact... high chance p3 also dies

blanc doesn't like getting smithed by vestiTU + nayuta pre cast

give it a shot

[gaunt bane]

Yea I think I just cp gap him anyway lol. RH actually burst instead of Nayuta.

[tropic summit]

i'm assuming siren is linked and survives to B2 stun btw, if she doesn't you'll be in trouble

oh oke

[tropic summit]

set to private

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

[strong hull]

Let me check

[gaunt bane]

Hmm if I watch it live I cant replay. Wanna understand what happened lol. Perhaps they feed too much and RH gets to B2

[strong hull]

There you go

[tropic summit]

can make it easier and more consistent with vestiTU p1

vestiTU nayuta helmt rh jackal

will lose a bit on DPS but it shouldn't be too much of a problem

[gaunt bane]

Hmm yea something changed, RH now get to burst 3 and I obviously wiped. Also i didnt cp gap him, cp deficit only at 13.5%

[tropic summit]

yeah let's prefer this method then, feed might be kicking you into a speed enough to reach RH B2 earlier, this one ensures you'll run the intended purpose

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh drakeT
• jackal privT vestiTU trina bsoda
• moran noah biscuit swha lib

[gaunt bane]

Yep, they just wipe at nayuta b2. So the idea is to RH nayuta and kill before B3 sometimes? When do you see that you should use this strat?

[tropic summit]

whenever you see a jackal link and units that can be punished in p1/p2 yes

nayuta RH buffed alone is around 50-60% of a unit, regardless if linked

this is even more effective on jackal linked units because you'll be lowering their HP pre burst

even more so against wind code, where vestiTU hits for ele weakness

[lethal karma]

Need a def team reshuffle, tried to make my own but i couldnt balance out burst gen for each geam https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjkyMDA5MzExNDQ0OTQ3NzIwMQ%3D%3D&type=normal

[tropic summit]

what are you running currently

[lethal karma]

Lemme relog

[gaunt bane]

On this one, i havent looked at his box but these teams seem unconventional. Is he lacking key pvp units?

[swift mango]

His Rosa s1 is probably not level 7, so it doesn't rip 5 buff, only 1 or 3. So Ein had more than 3 buff and it wasn't able to rip the linked one.

[glad meteor]

Rosa got one tapped by ein nuke

Crazy

[strong hull]

[glad meteor]

Ada op

[strong hull]

Blood kun.

[swift mango]

Ein nuke got 2 buffed, it's normal

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

Ada s1 double buff so

Ein kinda has buffs coming from everywhere

[strong hull]

I am now Huyền Thoại đen jỏng kùi

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• moran helmt anchorIM drake trina
• rumani swha lib blanc biscuit
• jackal nayuta vestiTU ada centi

T3 is assumed with vestiTU on 5%CS, give her adjutant if needed

[lethal karma]

In future should i build my xmaid just so i have more battery options?

[tropic summit]

• build up rumani, trina
• treasure laplace
• get noah asap, this is your main problem atm
• alternatives to noah is getting soline and bay invested and built (or label)
• build noise

[swift mango]

[strong hull]

I know you understand it but cant prove

[candid pawn]

sir need deff special arena team too letsay i have everyone except trina can build some nikke if needed 🙏

[tropic summit]

blabla link or box

i need to see invest to make proper teams, "have everything" doesn't help

[candid pawn]

how to share blabla

[strong hull]

I have everything

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/punch-295

[tropic summit]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad

[candid pawn]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMTIwNzIxNTU4Njk3MDY2NzU5OTU=

[swift mango]

But not Makima
.
.
.

[candid pawn]

💔

oh idont have trina delta label xd

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-angry-gif-8226067456849989311

[umbral crown]

he is still new, he had to change everything, including profile pic

[strong hull]

Too useless i dont need her anywae

[swift mango]

[candid pawn]

sry my account is mess xd

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
• moran noah biscuit swha siren
• jackal scarlet vestiTU blanc bsoda

Notes

• build emilia
• build ada
• wishlist trina
• consider building up noise and rosanna (rosanna 40%atk OL ideal)

[umbral crown]

imma ask discord to remove notes to see how you will handle this

[swift mango]

Hard for him as well.

[tropic summit]

your cover will be broken because of your memes within seconds anyway

[umbral crown]

[candid pawn]

no sbs ? her cp so big hehe

moran treasure still 2star

92/110

[tropic summit]

SBS will instantly prompt enemy to run drakeT and vestiTU, unfortunately she doesn't really have a spot on def

her distributed dmg is also denied by any invulnerable defender taunter

[candid pawn]

oh defense and attack team is diferent ?

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

to put it simple: she gets cheesed too easily

[tropic summit]

whenever you attack you use specific nikke that counter whatever the defense you're facing is running

unless you know what you doing, you can use both for attack and defense

[strong hull]

I might post some AI run on it soon

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[strong hull]

[candid pawn]

emilia ada trina noise what to build ? just max the ol or find some stat for cp or there needed stat ?

[swift mango]

Charge speed >=11% , Emi only needs max skill 1 and 8%+.

Maybe 5% is fine too

[candid pawn]

okai

tysm sir

❤️

[swift mango]

About time you get back your MA status huh.

[tropic summit]

to think @strong hull was capable of working sometimes

[strong hull]

Im not going back there actually

[swift mango]

[strong hull]

Or they will give it back someday

[tropic summit]

who's your favourite waifu in nikke

[strong hull]

Goth girl

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

does she count

[shell hazel]

ok you now Rail

[tropic summit]

haha

funny joke

[shell hazel]

[strong hull]

Im into big bobas white hair actually

[tropic summit]

ok now that's a huge pair of hints

[shell hazel]

he likes grandmas with plastic surgery

[strong hull]

How you know i like liter

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/liter-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-27631948

[tropic summit]

i was thinking of this but ok

[strong hull]

Yea that

You can see her c7 in my bla

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-see-youre-a-man-of-culture-as-well

[strong hull]

Im even have that skin also

[tropic summit]

simp

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Indeed a wheel

[shell hazel]

I think I can get 19B Rail on a good set, then I

zanta wins this round 🙁

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-you-got-it

[strong hull]

[strong hull]

Mostly white hair girl my type

On point

[tropic summit]

you never stood a chance, @hollow lagoon is the god emperor himself

[shell hazel]

the curse in the machine

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-22680174

[tropic summit]

you better treat her well, she's been through a bit of shit

[strong hull]

The special about this one is i can see it black inside

[shell hazel]

as for me, where my priscilla at

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/re-zero-22

[strong hull]

Truly worth

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/priscilla-re-zero-pitelyus-gif-23181444

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/re-zero-21

[strong hull]

Yellow hair smoll girl aged i know why araragi into it

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon get top 50, do it for her

protect her smile

[lone sequoia]

do it for another event without the MC

[tropic summit]

everyday is a good day to bully overly serious rapi

although now she bullies others instead

[lone sequoia]

i prefer OG rapi over jp rapi and that rapi over the overspec rapi

[tropic summit]

imagine when she finds out what we've been doing with Arcana and Privaty

[shell hazel]

what happens in school stays in school

[tropic summit]

or if you don't remember

[lone sequoia]

mmmmm

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[lone sequoia]

i will read the vn next week

[strong hull]

I waiting some release on nh*ntai

[tropic summit]

some scenes are good

[lone sequoia]

censored?

nhentai*

[tropic summit]

sir the game is pg13

[lone sequoia]

it is censored

nhentai

[strong hull]

[lone sequoia]

bruh

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

||nhentai||

low effort

[umbral crown]

Nesso is doing the thing

[lone sequoia]

nhentai.

[lone sequoia]

i will probably have to invest more in my fire units, 17.4b solo raid is really low

looks like 4~7 skills and base OL will not work

[shell hazel]

my xdiesel half built with 7/7/7 and SR-5 isn't as good as it could be either :9

[undone blaze]

What kind of team does PrivaT slot into? She's a pretty slow burster

[lone sequoia]

pvp?

[undone blaze]

Yes

[swift mango]

nhentai

Ehentai

[lone sequoia]

nuke if you have a buffer, stun lock with siren or continuous dmg with sanis

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

blood will post all his chicken sites

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel maybe i should just watch all the cutscenes, feels like there are some good ones

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5LDXeIiUATw?feature=share

[swift mango]

ohhh

Some word isn't censored but Dyno still nuke it.

[tropic summit]

bad language

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

i wonder if they will ban you because the "N" word even if is not a "bad" word

[swift mango]

I can't be MA now ever

[tropic summit]

your life is ruined

[tropic summit]

The N of Nugget?

[tropic summit]

or is it the N for Niagara?

[lone sequoia]

i don't like nuggets

[glad meteor]

Swha is good for off burst dmg

[lone sequoia]

swha is good

[tropic summit]

swha is

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Wait, we have a Bocchi animated emote?

[strong hull]

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[keen vapor]

YOU

You're not MA
-# Finally

[umbral crown]

[strong hull]

Ascension to heaven

[keen vapor]

And we're partners

[umbral crown]

Always been

[keen vapor]

True...

[umbral crown]

But now more than ever

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Means you need to build Ein

[keen vapor]

YOU GOT A BIRB EMOTE

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

NO

[umbral crown]

Si

[keen vapor]

I already did

[keen vapor]

Kisama....

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

I think I should stay c3 so I test team? Finally they hit me down.

[keen vapor]

I miss my Challenger rank

[swift mango]

Each of the 2 guys have 1 useful team to test.

The rest of their teams aren't valuable.

My Scarlet team could actually beat both of those teams.

[keen vapor]

Then do it

[swift mango]

I mean, if I hit them down I won't be able to test team anymore so I would just lose on purpose and keep c3.

Do it the Keripo way

[undone blaze]

wow, the 3 ppl who kept getting easy wins on me, no more

Wonder what changed

Probably from beefing up that throwaway team

[shell hazel]

but you just said there is nothing to test

[tropic summit]

the bad news: RAM is expensive af
the good news: we getting this sh*t

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VStJu6Q1e4o?feature=share

[tropic summit]

blue team to force ppl to win against you is da way

[versed mesa]

I am rarely in this situation, so decided to take a screenshot as proof just once

[shell hazel]

like when I was 10th in SR briefly 😄

[versed mesa]

Too bad it won't hold

[umbral crown]

You in diamond?

[umbral crown]

The good old days for me

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

Nice

[umbral crown]

But how

[glad meteor]

If anime girls need to die so my ram gets cheaper. Thats a price I’m willing to pay

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-avengers-marvel-small-price-gif-14188934

[keen vapor]

Not enough synch

[umbral crown]

Open your boxes

Also show me your top 10

Im in a way that if im not able to be in top 3, at the very least C4 i would quit.

[glad meteor]

Did you watch anime yet

[umbral crown]

Soon after i finish lunch, when you told me was a bit late here like 1 am

[glad meteor]

Time flying

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[glad meteor]

Work in less than 24rs

[umbral crown]

Its 1:30 pm and i have to work at 8 am, less and less time to enjoy the moment

[glad meteor]

Slavery needs us

[umbral crown]

Thats how we make our waifus dresss cute skins

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-mgs-mgs3-metal-gear-solid-che-gif-793405683592836141

[umbral crown]

Especially pvp units

[glad meteor]

Im in process of pc build. But havent started. Can do a lot waifu dressing on pc

[umbral crown]

K about to do the thing

[glad meteor]

Shi long though

Maybe i go pre built

[umbral crown]

To play NFS Most Wanted

https://tenor.com/view/nfs-nfsmw-need-for-speed-need-for-speed-most-wanted-bmw-m3gtr-gif-22322138

And doing pvp like the pros

Auto and hoping for the best

[shell hazel]

I don't recommend it usually but you can sometimes buy a core bundle.
motherboard + cpu + ram that type of thing

[keen vapor]

No

[shell hazel]

can then throw in your own case of choice + buy whatever PSU you want etc

[umbral crown]

Si

[glad meteor]

Interessent

[shell hazel]

a full pre-built will cost more and eat into your budget a bit, but if you cba to do anything to build it, it can make sense

[glad meteor]

I just know the motherboard and ddrx need to match

[shell hazel]

just need to make sure it's a reasonable deal

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

I watched a couple build vids. Looks doable

[shell hazel]

well with main core bundle those parts should at least work together OK 🙂

[glad meteor]

Just kinda want to make sure it lasts long and wont feel outdated soon

[shell hazel]

don't buy cheapest stuff possible then usually

go for mid-range cpu and board etc

a mid-range pc today should last 5 years or more

[versed mesa]

Building your PC is basically like legos. If you've never done it, try and ask if you have a friend who has, who can help you out.

[tropic summit]

not the greatest time to upgrade your PC tho

prices aren't particularly good this year or last

unless your PC is a microwave, probably better waiting a bit

[faint tendon]

you mean you dont like paying more than double for RAM?

[glad meteor]

My pc is non existent

Unless you count console as pc

[faint tendon]

consoles are just outdated pcs that companies actually try to match for specs

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-6

[tropic summit]

Rosy is a racer

[tropic summit]

considering the pace at which AI has been improving, we gonna have a lot of fake-looking-real soon

hopefully we still see 6 fingers to tell fake from real

[runic spear]

what's a good counter to this?

[tropic summit]

- swha blanc rh trina jackal

• jackal vestiTU ada blanc trina (indom vestiTU, vestiTU lower HP than jackal and ada)
• ada blanc vestiTU trina jackal (indom ada, ada lower HP than jackal and vestiTU)
• blanc siren cindy biscuit rumani (slow cindy)

[runic spear]

my Centi is bricked, still good?

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit

https://tenor.com/view/poinko-gif-2217837072831501740

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

SKK liking mommy's scent eh

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/heel-n-toe-heel-toe-downshift-drift-drifting-gif-27343677

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

the 1RL

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor it's funny cuz there's actually very little feed

[swift mango]

I don't want anyone below 3rd rank to beat me.

[tropic summit]

how are you gonna test teams if you don't let them bring you down so you can attack back

[swift mango]

nothing in rookie

[swift mango]

C1-2 are test subject. I fixed my def back now. So until they could beat it, c3 is stable.

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna attack you so it's no longer stable

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/mf-ghost-gt86-kanata-katagiri-gif-17070100050553921925

[swift mango]

now that I have 2 spa test a day I won't waste it for anything else.

It was my ego that got me stuck on C1 for almost a month. The next motnh of this reshuffle I will stay c3

[tropic summit]

probably because anyone below c3 is padded out

[glad meteor]

I burst faster than siren stun there lol

32 ammo, had only spent 30

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

next CA team for sure

then runs into label

[lunar pawn]

who needs midcana anyway

[mint kite]

He finally figured out that siren was killing him

Now what do I do?

[swift mango]

Find his address and beat him up.

[quartz vortex]

leaving t moran at 7/10/10 is fine it her s1 matters a lot ?

[lone sequoia]

full 10s, SR15, and gear at 5

or just focus in pve and never check pvp again

[lone sequoia]

is rookie 1st week, just test teams

[mint kite]

Mirror + Vesti worked, although it's a super long fight

[lone sequoia]

try a different team next time

[swift mango]

bring you team to 2rl by replacing Siren

[lunar pawn]

@compact ore poked

[compact ore]

YAY

[forest zodiac]

ein being solo was a bit scary, glad that it worked anyway

[lone sequoia]

ein is probably the best unit for indom fights after MG

[glad meteor]

Scar

[swift mango]

AR and SMG should still beat her.

[lone sequoia]

yep, AR counts

and also feed enemy in case of jackal

[lone sequoia]

ammo problems, only if a lucky S2 proc in case the enemy unit is low enough

[swift mango]

Well, only if you don't know your ammo.

[glad meteor]

You can fix the ammo for indom fights. She has a good nuke and her s2 can damage p1-5

[lone sequoia]

i know the ammo of my units, but not the ammo of other people

0rocks

only 8 drops in 1 week

[brazen ledge]

hi, need help for new teams pls

[swift mango]

Replace Libby with Privaty

[brazen ledge]

i just got bayT, useless ?

i got her for the wallpaper but yk

[cedar sorrel]

Howd go about beating these teams? I threw in the 3rd team as well even tho that "looks" harder

[brazen ledge]

scarlet team : label
noah team : your indom works

[cedar sorrel]

I dont have label built at all

[brazen ledge]

either label or noah

[cedar sorrel]

I dont own noah either yeah

[brazen ledge]

just put her and let her do her magic

[cedar sorrel]

No OL 111?

[brazen ledge]

label + some high cp stuff that would not make you go lower than 15.5% deficit

[brazen ledge]

mine has no ol i use her regularly

trust the process

[limber patrol]

what are the charge speed break points for Vesti TU?
(all)

[cedar sorrel]

None existent its like 5.21 on ada and 4.x on tvesti

[oblique gyro]

@shell hazel glutto down

kinda direspect the boss playing crown/rapi/moran/SWHA/Mast and ignored all mecas

[hollow lagoon]

Evil

[shell hazel]

I tried that but didn't quite have the damage for it when I did it

grats though!

[oblique gyro]

at first i didn't had the damage but when i reached out 507 and 1B35 CP

it was enough

[cedar sorrel]

Does the speed matter?

Theyre 2RL

[shell hazel]

chapter 40 has some pretty evil stages but all doable if you got this far I think

chapter 39 has some but I think 40 was more annoying

[lunar pawn]

ah right

had to test team today

[shell hazel]

I'm tired

[lunar pawn]

close

[shell hazel]

damn not bad lol

[brazen ledge]

Put helm and vesti idk
Just try to do something decent, but you put label inside that

[lunar pawn]

ammo don't think 1-2 extra rockets might have won that though, maybe a little extra atk could do the job

[cedar sorrel]

Gonna be hard to maintain decent speed and the CP without using the units of the indom tean

Team*

Think Ill just save the attempt for when someone hitd me down instead

[shell hazel]

siren b1 instad of jackal?

put blanc to p1 if it works and you don't lose vesti to splash

i'm guessing though no it won't as you need both defenders on p1/p2 not to die to deficit lol

[lunar pawn]

yea I'm on like 32% deficit

[compact ore]

finally ;=; im not alone

[lunar pawn]

poked in rookie too, see above

[compact ore]

there i can poke you

which i did

pog

[compact ore]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GgGHEoQXQAALFdo.gif

[shell hazel]

[lunar pawn]

but yea not sure where to improve

any attempt to improve ammo/atk needs to use at least 2 rocks

[brazen current]

Damn the tempering cube made all the difference
without it moron and blanc were dead before burst

[lone sequoia]

blanc p2 against vesti?

[cedar sorrel]

I have 2 rocks what is OL priority for moran?

[lone sequoia]

pve, pvp or pvx?

you can just aim to 4 atk/ele/def

[lunar pawn]

no priority for moran tbh, def is nice for pvp, atk is nice for pvp+pve, elemental is nice for pve but way more niche

[lone sequoia]

more pvp is 4DEF/2~3atk/2~3ele/1ammo and some crit rate... specifict lines depends on the team you want to use moran in, but you can just go with the first

[cedar sorrel]

Oh hahaha I didnt mean lines I meant which 2 pieces of gear should I OL first

[lunar pawn]

her buffs don't scale with her atk/def lines though

[lone sequoia]

visor/vest

i mean vest/visor-shoes-gloves

[cedar sorrel]

Okay okay I did visor vest

[lone sequoia]

in moran case, she tanks more if she deal more dmg... he can just build for pve and add some DEF lines, but some times too much atk is bad forr the team if you want the aggro in a different unit

[cedar sorrel]

What are breakpoints for base moran in pvp?

[lone sequoia]

skills?

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah whoops skills

[lone sequoia]

aim for full 10 and SR15, at least burst 10

[cedar sorrel]

Ouch

[lone sequoia]

you can 4/4/7, then 7/7/10, then full 10, but the burst lvls are important...

[cedar sorrel]

CP wise she is now one of my stronger units. I can use her in PVP?

[lunar pawn]

that's why I said atk is nice for pvp

[lone sequoia]

if you want

[lone sequoia]

in some units i value crit rate more than atk, but both are good at the same time

[cedar sorrel]

I rolled 11.81 atk on head and
Max ammo 64.xx atk 11.81 charge damage 11.81 on chest

[lunar pawn]

that's enough

2 atk lines is solid

[lone sequoia]

at your sync is better to focus in more units

[lunar pawn]

it's not bad to OL moran though, she's the tank in high deficit campaign

[lone sequoia]

get a strong campaign team+ main dps for each element, then you build pvp core units, then you decide for solo raid or UR

[cedar sorrel]

Yea Im trying to get moran treasured but dont have her dispatch mats or the mats to sr15 yet so I was hoping I could just use base moran for now in pvp

[lone sequoia]

core units in the current meta should be, helmT-swha-vesti-blanc-biscuit-noah-nayuta-jackal

in my case i use bayT, noise, rapu, scar a lot

[cedar sorrel]

These are my units I use in campaign a lot all are 4ol some better built than others but they all come up in high defi pushing

So thats why I thought I could move on to moran investing for now

[lone sequoia]

you have the units to use meta campaign team

[cedar sorrel]

Yea these I havent built at all yet

[lone sequoia]

crown/moranT(siren)/ssrapi/helmT/swha

[cedar sorrel]

Yup theyre used often

[lunar pawn]

wait would swha be better than tvesti in the earlier comp? or nah

[lone sequoia]

what comp?

[lunar pawn]

.

[cedar sorrel]

Would any of these teams be upgraded instantly by replacing someone for moran?

[lone sequoia]

in a whale slayer? depends on the units, for a stall team vesti or lib should be better than swha

[lunar pawn]

mm issue is lib is way lower cp

[lone sequoia]

how good is your vesti?

atk/ele/cs??

[oblique gyro]

okey i'll see that soon

[shell hazel]

then you gotta beat my solo raid score 😄

[lunar pawn]

I wanna improve my own without using rocks

got a whole team doing pepega dmg

[shell hazel]

I've got the copiest team that ever did cope

[lunar pawn]

alice rei mod, they all have junk lines

mod carrying in the team though

[shell hazel]

my team 5 is named cope

it's 19.3B with this junk team 5, imagine if it was a 3B team instead, 20+

[oblique gyro]

niice

[lunar pawn]

let me bring up mine

[lone sequoia]

no modernia?

[lunar pawn]

18.7b, not sure where to improve, or how I should shuffle nikkes around

[shell hazel]

I do have her but she has no build at all (no doll, gear, skills anything) and therefore anything else works better

if I could improve my t5 a bit I'd get a better score but it was cope o'clock gettting to 2.1-2.2B on it lol

[lone sequoia]

moranT is more dmg than liter b1 in maids and the same T5 as hippo should be better than rei main dps in case you don't have elemental dmg lines

[lone sequoia]

vesti ele? you can try rh for cindy b1... but not a good unit for normal dmg (no pierce)

[shell hazel]

my vest is multi-role essentially, so she has a bit of all stuff

some atk/ele/ammo/cs etc

[shell hazel]

I think I tried it, one problem I had was being able to kill the smaller ice shards

if I don't and I eat the main big one at the start it's doom 😄

[lunar pawn]

mmm don't wanna use that t5 though

all non fire b3

unsure how to go about it cus rei is nice to have mostly cus of her shield

[shell hazel]

my poor mod it's sad

[lunar pawn]

[shell hazel]

I started later as you can see from my sync, and mod was one of the last pilgrims I got so I had Rapi by then

the better mod lol

makes it hard to want to go back and invest given how old of a unit OG mod is

[cedar sorrel]

Mod treasure soon

[shell hazel]

I do have rei as well (both) but again it's old unit :9

I'm trying to keep up with building new stuff more

[lone sequoia]

wasuka?

[shell hazel]

I do got she's OK build

[rich quail]

More likely an alt than treasure

[lunar pawn]

they don't treasure 1% chars

||they kill them||

[tropic summit]

oh very close, but i guess that's as far as you can go
if we remove siren for ada, your dmg will be higher, but you lose out on several seconds of noah shield

you're deficit gated here

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

tomorrow everyone will be working, meanwhile i'm gonna be doing absolutely nothing for the next 5 days

although i still need to get an haircut, do groceries, book some medical checkups and clean the house

i sometimes don't wanna be an adult

[shell hazel]

me too

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-yukko-yuuko-aioi-mio-mio-naganohara-gif-1414290421647555478

[shell hazel]

I did that on Friday (haircut)

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sarazanmai-anime-2

[shell hazel]

so I got nothing to do except re-up groceries

[shell hazel]

before and after accurate

[tropic summit]

ye it's probably gonna be me too

gonna cut it decently short

[shell hazel]

do that thing where the barber turns it into a wig

then have it accidentally fall off when you're in the office and gaslight all your work colleagues into thinking you always had a wig on

[crystal flicker]

I really considering to get a wolf cut

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/xmen-wolverine-gif-8080828

wolf cut? like wolverine?

[tropic summit]

oh 30 rolls, looks like i'm done till privaty
#gacha-rolls message

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doja-cat-8

@crystal flicker suichan will surely look at you like this if you do

[lunar pawn]

worth a shot anyway

kudos

[tropic summit]

indeed, you did the science 🍿

@hollow lagoon hayde's teams are out

curious usage of brid and diesel

[hollow lagoon]

terrible usage

diesel prefers units that can do good offburst damage

[tropic summit]

first guy also running similar atm

[hollow lagoon]

and scales with highe attack up

= mihara

putting swha with xdiesel is a waste

[tropic summit]

crazy how ada and midhara do so much dmg

[hollow lagoon]

not really

that comp is crap proportionally

[tropic summit]

oh so if you had equal or similar ele you could run better teams than these

[hollow lagoon]

ofcourse

its a given

[tropic summit]

darn

gotta get le zant some ele

[hollow lagoon]

my rapi comp is 5.5b

my mihara xdiesel comp is 5.7

so if this guy's rapi comp is 7

then he should be running a 8b mihara xdiesel

[tropic summit]

numbers the pleb me will never see at least for the next year

current top 3 teams are all similar shiet it seems, this is 2nd guy

[hollow lagoon]

and the funny thing is my xdiesel and xbrid are not full skill invested

You can’t convince me this does good

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

y neutral comps are 3.2-3,3

[tropic summit]

wonder why they running it in the first place, then again it could be bait and they swap it out on the last day

[hollow lagoon]

i'm using a meta fire unit and meta fire support to do neutral comp damage.... yeah

crit gimmicl is funny

but if i run my mihara with helmT i have 42% crit constantly

and with miranda my mihara crit 100% of the time on her burst? andthe other time she's?

and during her burst i dont get to shoot for damage?

bro u see any sense?

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

i can have like 80% up time on 42% crit or i can have less than 50% up time on 100

like

[tropic summit]

you've done a good chunk of testing it seems

[hollow lagoon]

yeah man i can use meta fire attacker unit and meta fire support to do 3.5b or i can do 5.7b

idk what's better

you tell me mate

[tropic summit]

i'll trust you, it seems like you already messed around enough to tell

[hollow lagoon]

not really

[tropic summit]

at this point it may aswell just be bait, else they'd run similar teams as the one you mentioned

[hollow lagoon]

i went in with this comp and got 21b and i'm sold

and then i play better and i'm 22.5

i dont see a reason to change things

[tropic summit]

oh absolutely

you run what gives you the best damage with what you got

god knows what kind of crazy OLs are on those units

[hollow lagoon]

like ok maybe ill crown mast for 6b on rapi hyper feed but then ill eat shit trying to come up with a neutral comp that cant even pull thrugh

[tropic summit]

yeah doesn't seem doable

[hollow lagoon]

hippo did it

[tropic summit]

or rather just shooting yourself in the foot

[tropic summit]

he still scored less than you so kinda supports your reasoning if anything

[tropic summit]

dis hippo?

[hollow lagoon]

yeh

he asks me how to make team 5 better

[tropic summit]

ye i see similar patterns all around

[hollow lagoon]

idk how to make team 5 better

[glad meteor]

besti

[hollow lagoon]

ferk if i know that looks like hard copium

[tropic summit]

if only besti was as good as those options

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

i used besti for my union leader's account

[tropic summit]

what was the team for reference?

(with vesti-chan)

[tropic summit]

oh with midhara and diesel

[hollow lagoon]

its not hard

xdiesel\s kit is basically

please run this unit with fire units that deal good damage off burst

it aint hard to figure shit out people just read them dam kits

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther

[hollow lagoon]

that's a no ol diesel

and no ol soda arcana xbrid

no ol privity

no ol grave delta ninja

[tropic summit]

dafuq why he no OL at least privT

[hollow lagoon]

no ol dkw

privt only phase 2

[tropic summit]

your union leader is stinky

[hollow lagoon]

u mean

he's sync 390

[tropic summit]

oh 390

then a bit legit

[shell hazel]

zanta got more invest than me or cores (or both) usually 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

u more ele

[shell hazel]

sometimes

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon the evil has spoken, he says you're cheating

[hollow lagoon]

lets see u pull up a not 4 ele rapi then

[tropic summit]

little does he know @hollow lagoon is the god emperor himself

extra passive damage buffs

[shell hazel]

need someone to post a not-4 ele rapi so I can repost it

[tropic summit]

imagine not having ele on RRH

how do you clear gluttony and zizx

[hollow lagoon]

here u go u can haz mine

[shell hazel]

I tried zanta teams they don't work for me

[tropic summit]

where's 4th ele line

[hollow lagoon]

no haz

[shell hazel]

it's how something is working I don't got

[tropic summit]

go sell a kidney and buy one

[shell hazel]

here you go! #pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

damn how u get identical rolls to me

u cheated

[shell hazel]

hacks

[tropic summit]

evil vs god emperor 🍿

@glad meteor filthy pve go0n did you already try SR?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

i explained why my comps works

[glad meteor]

||Yes||

[tropic summit]

what's your score...

although im scared to find out...

[hollow lagoon]

i have low ele so i run a lot of neutral, and because my ele is low my neutral is strong, runnning my comps is same as trying to beat me in neutral

[tropic summit]

holy mother of pepperoni

show le teams for reference

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

trying to beat me in neutral is a thing you wont get to do

[tropic summit]

naruhodo... wait modernia and cindy

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

meta fire support in neutral comp that gets diluted to the max by attack up

[shell hazel]

I get like 4.5 running this team zanta runs - and then I suffer to run other teams as a result and lose more 😄

losing 1.2B on something there

[tropic summit]

oh cuz you using helmt and midhara in there i guess

[hollow lagoon]

do u have ammo on helm?

[shell hazel]

same comp

I do have some ammo on helmT but it shouldn't make that big of a diff

[hollow lagoon]

🧱

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon are diesel, brid and arcanaAlt usable without OL

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

it does because i pump my mihara crit chance to 40%+ with helm buff

[tropic summit]

i got skill books i could throw at them at least

[hollow lagoon]

and if u have ammo on helm combined with liter ur crit rate buff up time is abyssmal

which is why

miranda will never work for me because that comp will always be inferior

i can enjoy very high up time of 40% crit and still let my mihara shot

[glad meteor]

I don’t get zant numbers, low ele but high score. I heard you only have 1 4 ele unit

[hollow lagoon]

yep

[tropic summit]

he's using the god emperor passive buff

also called min/maxing and black magic though

[glad meteor]

There for damage taken debuff

[glad meteor]

still

[hollow lagoon]

wasted, on ele neutral

[tropic summit]

ikr

wizardry at work

[glad meteor]

Mihara miranda is pumping its own team

[hollow lagoon]

ur trying to add multipliers

whiel adding additives

or u can just add multipliers

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I mean results speak for themselves

[tropic summit]

forget zant as a chef, he has a path in uni for advanced maths

[shell hazel]

but zanta also has a lot in skills and OL's and doll levels if not perfect rolls, def more than me

[hollow lagoon]

i mean

10/8/8 drake could use mroe work i guess

[shell hazel]

a lot of mine stuck on 7's still it's rare I can max stuff

[hollow lagoon]

9/9/10 xbrid last i checked

[glad meteor]

Damage taken is the multiplier

[shell hazel]

yeah xbrid I'm 7/7/7 with 0LB and SR-5

[glad meteor]

I used grave and it was lower

[hollow lagoon]

grave being lower is normal

[shell hazel]

xbrid buffs on cores due to her atk stat if I recall right

so more cores = more buff

[hollow lagoon]

yep

[shell hazel]

it's not final atk it's caster atk

[glad meteor]

So who do you mean when adding multiplier?

Instead of xbrid

[hollow lagoon]

what i mean is dont waste xbrid on neutral comp

[glad meteor]

I tried the moran xbrid comp, too maldy atm. Maybe later in the weak

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[hollow lagoon]

why mald

just crash

and ignore boss damage

@tropic summit this raid is 5 head trying to bait people into attacking the hit count rocks, i sware

real game name of the game is how to aim better to ignroe rocks

[glad meteor]

Smol Balls break my cover and die following

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

so what there are no lethal attacks

just eat it up and carry on

[shell hazel]

on certain teams you def can ignore the rocks

[glad meteor]

Until 3 of my units are dead

[shell hazel]

crown shield, nayuta heal, maid duo heals make basically anything survivable

[hollow lagoon]

u either make it so u can hard tank rocks, or u dont care about rocks being hit

like grave

pierce and make rock dissapear

my rapi team cant eat all the rocks

since i'm bursing nayuta

but rapi team is very brr it kinda dont matter

[shell hazel]

you should be able to eat all rocks with nayuta

[hollow lagoon]

the first rock i eat tho

[shell hazel]

my nayuta team can ignore them, it gets a bit dicey though lol

[hollow lagoon]

[tidal lichen]

[crystal flicker]

#off-topic message

[tropic summit]

handsome rin incoming

[crystal flicker]

Lately I've been digging Noel's doujinshis instead of Suisei tbh

https://tenor.com/view/noel-白銀ノエル-ホロライブ-hololive-vtuber-gif-15674234913401652319

[raven plover]

did someone say Noel

https://tenor.com/view/shirogane-noel-funny-move-movement-3d-live-gif-8427420617280006382

[crystal flicker]

I've read all her doujinshi on N site, do you have other recommendation?

[raven plover]

no

[tropic summit]

[hollow hamlet]

Centi still worth putting an R doll on?

[crystal flicker]

R doll for everyone

[swift mango]

In your current line up, yes

Need to rebuilt the teams to add her in.

[umbral crown]

SR

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

SW do good off burst dmg. Wdym?

[swift mango]

Midhara is best used with Miranda. It has been for ages now wdym again?

[hollow lagoon]

Idk what u mean

Yeah neutral team tier damage is totally the best

Swha good off burst on neutral? Yeah ok

[placid bloom]

you have to uncover to shoot ice ball with that team, so you are losing damage. It only works with Nayuta because you get to facetank.

[graceful grotto]

Is ur ada bursting first or mihara?

[bleak cosmos]

Which character do Mana and Privaty prefer for better PvP?

[noble python]

Mana is not that good in PvP as for Privaty you want her treasure first before using her

[bleak cosmos]

Can you help me arrange two teams for PvP

[noble python]

I can try my first question is how invested is your Anis like gear wise?

And are you using these teams for attack or defense?

Cause you need 3 defense teams

@bleak cosmos

[noble python]

You’re missing many key PvP units so I really wouldn’t recommend focusing on PvP at the moment but if you really want some teams then you can try these:

Team 1: Moran, Biscuit, Anis, PrivatyT, Drake
Team 2: Label, Blanc, Viper, VestiTU, Rapi Red Hood

Do keep in mind that with the limited amount of good PvP units you have these teams are not that amazing and won’t hold up for long but until you get better units this is probably close to the best you can do atm

I would personally wait for Rail or Blood to appear as they’re much better at this than I am but using what knowledge I’ve gained this is the best I got for ya

[swift mango]

I mean you did something wrong because other did better than you.

Not like I'm how to do better since I don't really care about it but just looks at top scorer every season.

@tropic summit Nah, I'm not reroll attribute again and will reroll line 2 until I got something usable.F this game.

[noble python]

Nothing changed tf-

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-gokabe-seikanashi-seikaverse-sei-ichijou-seika-gif-15017729563964680129

[lone nebula]

looking at the pins, these are the teams i have in mind for my arena:

• Jackal Rumani VestiTU Blanc ClipRL
• Moran Noah Helm SWHA RH
• Nayuta Siren Privaty Alice Liberalio

which clipRL should i use for team 1? is team 3 a good idea?

[noble python]

Assuming this is defense if you think PrivatyT plus Alice is killing VestiTU and you move Siren to P4 yes

[noble python]

Would also need Noah in Team 2 to be moved to P4/P5 but be before Red Hood to make sure she can’t hit Noah till Burst

[lone nebula]

Moran Helm SWHA Noah RH right?

[lone nebula]

any changes for the attack team?

[noble python]

Yes that way Noah is safe from opposing VestiTU until she bursts anyway

[noble python]

As for T1 Clip RL would be Trina unless your Anis is Giga invested

[lone nebula]

giga invested like 10/10/10 + all modded equipment?

[frigid jungle]

Anyone have a suggestions on how to counter this team?

[noble python]

All modded equipment yes as for 10/10/10 maybe

[noble python]

VestiTU?

Nuke their P1 Noah into next week

[frigid jungle]

What team should i go with or who i replace for vesti?

[noble python]

Replace Anis with VestiTU

[frigid jungle]

Ok thanks

[lone nebula]

do i need to run another different team comp for attack? or can i just mirror my defense team

[noble python]

For attack you’d need to use different stuff depending on what the opponent’s defense is

It’s very rare your attack and defense is same unless your defense teams are just so amazingly good that basically nothing can beat them

[lone nebula]

that makes sense, gotcha

[noble python]

Or you heavily CP gap who your fighting using those teams

[lone nebula]

what about rookie arena defense team, should i just run this: Moran Helm SWHA Noah RH?

[noble python]

Just use VestiTU Indom

It beats basically most things and as long as you position Blanc in P4/P5 so she doesn’t get annihilated by opposing VestiTU’s off rip you’re mostly good

[lone nebula]

like this?

[noble python]

VestiTU Indom involves Jackal, Blanc, VestiTU, Rumani, and then a clip RL Noah can be one of them but again make sure she’s in P4/P5 and make sure Blanc is in the position before Noah bc otherwise you won’t Indom and will likely lose

Other Clip RL’s include Trina, Centi, and non Summer Anis

Jackal and Rumani are also Clip RL’s but their already in the team in this example

[lone nebula]

does this work?

[noble python]

Move Blanc to P4 then yes

[lone nebula]

but this team is barely 200k power while the other one is 300k

[noble python]

Bc P1-P3 can be hit by VestiTU normal attacks

[lone nebula]

surely 100k difference the other one is way better right?

[noble python]

And since VestiTU is strong vs Wind units you don’t want them there

[frigid jungle]

Thanks for helping but can i also ask for a team comp for special arena, currently using this

[noble python]

Yeah I suppose you have a point there just make sure any wind units are in P4/P5 so they don’t get annihilated by enemy VestiTU immediately

[lone nebula]

you are very helpful, thanks for all the info

[noble python]

Yeah your T2 and T3 is Label fodder… we gotta change that

[noble python]

I appreciate it and np

[noble python]

Change T1 to: Emilia, Red Hood, Centi, Blanc, HelmT

Change T2 to: MoranT, Rumani, Snow White HA, Noah, VestiTU

Change T3 to: Nayuta, Trina, PrivatyT, Jackal, LaplaceT

[frigid jungle]

tysm!!

[noble python]

Check in Nikke deck and make sure all 3 teams are 2RL if not you may need to add Quantum cubes to make them 2RL

Ok change Biscuit to Centi

And then T1 is 2RL even without any Quantum cubes

In T2 give SWHA and Noah Quantum

In T3 changed Siren to Jackal unfortunately no way to make it 2RL unless we switch things around but 2.5RL will be good enough as long as you have Quantum cube on Jackal and LaplaceT

If you need more in depth cube stuff on like who wants what cube I would suggest checking the Prydwen website

@frigid jungle ^

[frigid jungle]

ok thanks for your help

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit #1153279507210444851 message

[hollow lagoon]

investment diff

Top player damage just looks higher because they actually OL Miranda

U ain’t catching me rolling 4ele on that

[swift mango]

More about your Ada super low dmg.

Miranda is no dps. It doesn't make up the difference of 3b, or deal more dmg than Ada.

I don't see a world where Miranda does 2b by herself.

[upper grove]

just have bricked ada who doesn't get miranda burst buff like me

she gets 100% crit during her own burst but no miranda burst buff

[swift mango]

50% AtK max core Nayuta ?

[upper grove]

30% atk but max core vs LB0 Ada yep

[swift mango]

Time to get your ada 50% atk

[hollow lagoon]

Nope Ada crits

[hollow lagoon]

lol ur delusional Miranda dps is actually very high

I played my friends’s account I know

[tidal lichen]

[swift mango]

2b high?

[hollow lagoon]

She’ll do 1b ish

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

Which make it bit better then neutrals, worse than sg and worse than rapi

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Top players do 6.5b

[hollow lagoon]

And look

Worse than sg worse than rapi better than neutral

[swift mango]

That Midhara team is basically the 2nd highest dmg team this SR.

[hollow lagoon]

Too bad should be higher than rapi

[runic coral]

henlo everynyon

[hollow lagoon]

He testing for CA

[runic coral]

I'm ngl I keep switching between 2 teams but he has amnesia, nobody tell him 🤫

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

Nice score

[swift mango]

Now go copy it down.

[hollow lagoon]

Could use better team

[hollow lagoon]

Nah I don’t wanna lose 2 billion

Are you out of your mind

[upper grove]

mine does as well but without the burst buff from miranda

[hollow lagoon]

What

[swift mango]

You have 32b teams?

[hollow lagoon]

Give me 4 ele unit

[upper grove]

miranda burst buffs nayuta and mihara, during full burst ada and mihara get the 100% crit buff respectively on their bursts

[hollow lagoon]

U saw what happenes when I roll 4 ele +2b on my previous score

[swift mango]

Everyone on the top list has 4 Ele units. You implying everyone in the game worse than you?

[upper grove]

I lose a bunch of ada dmg but it happens

[hollow lagoon]

Actually yes

[swift mango]

Woa such arrogant. People even hire other to play for them yet worse than this one guy.

[hollow lagoon]

It’s typical PoE logic

U stack multipliers better u get higher performance

[swift mango]

Not when everyone on the top list use the same 4 teams. There must be something wrong with your teams that no one is using yours.

[hollow lagoon]

Everyone copy eachother

[swift mango]

Like I said, everyone mald, if your teams are better they would use it already.

You can't see that logic?

[hollow lagoon]

Investment diffs

[swift mango]

It doesn't matter about investment, they would try everything and use the best one.

[hollow lagoon]

People are literally discussing rerunning Brid on sg team because stat difference right now

They haven’t fully figured out yet

[swift mango]

Yes, but no one use it.

There is sometime someone cause upset at the last day and everyone change their line up but the best line up always on the top of the list.

Even if it's just the last 10 hours change

People would just jump on and change their team to that one.

[hollow lagoon]

Gnom 14th global was talking about it in other discord

[swift mango]

That one team higher dmg. But that means changing other teams so you would need the whole line up to do more dmg not just one team

[upper grove]

that SG team was figured out during skyjlv test wasn't it

it's just a matter of investment on both B2

[swift mango]

Doesn't mean anything to just show one team

[swift mango]

Brid already got 7.5b here

[hollow lagoon]

Your point? People have investment diff

[swift mango]

It doesn't really matter, it's just 200m change for one guy and he doesn't use your teams.

[hollow lagoon]

[upper grove]

so far the best performing teams use mihara, xdiesel and rapi separately, SG and the last team is the usual leftover team, for fire mains it's the usual liter grave alice reiF mod

[swift mango]

And please, look tf at his Summer doro, it's fing MLB vs his BSoda max core.

He really does worse than average on the right side.

So ofc his left side would be better.

[upper grove]

83 ele arcana and 87 ele xbrid

[hollow lagoon]

Lel

I have like 30 ele

[upper grove]

my 23 ele arcana and xbrid are way worse for total dmg when I remove xbrid from xdiesel team

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's just better for his specific case. Guys on the very top of the list have almost everything max core not like him.

[hollow lagoon]

Brid and diesel are basically made to be run together and mihara’s kit prefer both of them

So u solve burst gen and there you go

Preferably a burst gen that brings something to both unit’s

[upper grove]

it's just opportunity cost and investment checks, using both mihara and xdiesel together makes my overall dmg worse, in alteisen fire weak SR I also split them up

[swift mango]

I mean, everyone of them mald a ton, surely if your team are better they would use your teams already. Not like you are hiding it and no one know.

[hollow lagoon]

Surely I know my account better and knows what to run

And you can go copy whatever too person and try to relocate

[swift mango]

I mean, something work for you doesn't mean it's best line up.

[hollow lagoon]

My line up is the best because it’s what I have

[swift mango]

Line hell, Rapipi does worse dmg than SWHA on neutral on my phone but she is still better for everyone else.

[hollow lagoon]

Swha does worse than my Cindy on neutural this raid

Also are you sure ur swha is worse than rapi? Because swha self apply damage taken on targets u need to take that damage on other teammates and add to swha and then u can compare

[swift mango]

SWHA is better in campaign neutral for me. But she is worse than Rapipi for everyone else. Idk how they compare that so you should ask 50% deficit malders like penguin and Havel.

And or those in Team building chat.

That their conclusion not mine

[hollow lagoon]

I Wouldent know what 50% deficit feels like I don’t care about temporary game modes such as high deficit gaming which dissapears

[severe dawn]

Hello 🤗 please help me build 3 Arena teams

This is my nikkes:

[swift mango]

Because even with min ammo on, MG still lose dmg on phone vs PC. While SR like SHWA generally not.

[hollow lagoon]

I also don’t do phone gaming as much

So another game state that has no real meaning

[swift mango]

Yeah, it has nothing to do with you I never mentioned you in the equation.

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

I was giving example of what good for someone is worse for another.

[hollow lagoon]

Temporarily content state that newb traps people into building true damage and device difference

[swift mango]

Not just another but the average meta.

[swift mango]

I mean it doesn't really have anything with this problem so whatever it is.

[hollow lagoon]

Then what is it you mention 50% deficit then u mention phone diff

[upper grove]

SWHA is worse than rapi in campaign but they work together really well, 40-45% vs neutral (electric/wind weak) is possible with them

rapi explodes shit while SWHA wants least amount of enemies on screen possible

[swift mango]

I mentioned my case of working for me but not what's best. As parallel to working for you but not what's best.

[upper grove]

and nah penguin is not insane and masochistic enough to push 45-50%, me neither

[swift mango]