pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

you can defeat those things up to 26%ish deficit

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit siren

vestiTU and siren assumed linked, vestiTU with lowest HP in link

if you're within 22-26% deficit run it

[lunar pawn]

yea it's rough

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

hope next raid is electric weak so I have an excuse to reroll her lines

[umbral crown]

you already have the excuse, MC

[lunar pawn]

nah, I don't really get anything out of defeating it rn

[covert lintel]

You won't
I fight a similar set up like that

[umbral crown]

100 gems, credits and experience

[tropic summit]

doppel's vestiTU is stacked, he might actually stand a shot

[lunar pawn]

didn't I run smth similar

[umbral crown]

show

[lunar pawn]

let me check my recordings

[tropic summit]

he has the atk% and ammo, lacking on ele only iirc

[lunar pawn]

mm seems I didn't try a siren variant

[covert lintel]

so it's higher than my vestiTU?

[umbral crown]

imagine having atk

[tropic summit]

what was ur vestiTU

[lunar pawn]

she's not that stacked

[umbral crown]

and ammo also

could not be me

[tropic summit]

oh maybe it was dair's vestiTU then, yours is lacking on ammo too

atk is ok though

see what kind of deficit you get with the setup above

if you're below 30% it's a good start

[lunar pawn]

oh wait siren won't be linked

she has like 100% ele but 0 atk

[tropic summit]

who's linked? she can stay unlinked you only need her up to 2RL B2 anyway

[lunar pawn]

biscuit

[tropic summit]

ye it's fine

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit siren, show CP next

[lunar pawn]

32% deficit

[tropic summit]

that's rough, but if you feel like trying once record and let's see how far you get

[lunar pawn]

got no free tries left today, can hit tomorrow

[tropic summit]

aight tomorrow it is

[lunar pawn]

[covert lintel]

Even if you make it down to 26%
You'll have a hard time killing cindy decoy in the end

[tropic summit]

he just gotta trust the process

[lunar pawn]

sales pitch

[tropic summit]

[heavy lodge]

can I get some recommendations for SP arena teams? I;ve begun to get sniped, and this is what i used to run with

[tropic summit]

can improve T3, change up T2 and T1

[heavy lodge]

im listening

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
• jackal scarlet vestiTU blanc trina
• moran noah siren biscuit SWHA

[heavy lodge]

thank you

[cedar sorrel]

How do I beat this my old team isnt working anymore even tho its the same set up

[tropic summit]

you need 265.553k

your question shouldn't be how to beat it, but what can you run that is not in deficit to beat it

[cedar sorrel]

Im not above deficit?

[tropic summit]

you're with that team, but if we change it then you'll have to address deficit

[cedar sorrel]

Hmm I see what u mean

[tropic summit]

a slow team would be ideal but then the units you'll use with that one will be lower invest meaning deficit

[cedar sorrel]

Yea and Idont have cindy for the slow cindy comp

[tropic summit]

or liberalio also works

[cedar sorrel]

Slow lib?

[tropic summit]

ye but it needs units you likely won't have built enough to avoid deficit

[gaunt pulsar]

you can try slot rh instead of centi if it doesn't break your links and indom, and just run swha p1, but not guarantee that it will work as it just relies on not popping moran stacks by getting lucky and clearing bisc right as they leave noah stun, but it's rng-ish

[cedar sorrel]

Idk what slow comps are supposed to look like

[tropic summit]

oh you've ada and RH on high CP

[covert lintel]

Even with the same cp, i don't think his swha can pierce the opponent team

[tropic summit]

now if we could get ada indommed and their biscuit stacks popped before noah B2, you can let ada solo

[cedar sorrel]

I maxed out ada doll and been investing her with my rocks

[tropic summit]

what's CP with

jackal ada vesiTU blanc RH

[cedar sorrel]

I dont wanna rng this guy got mad I broke his def and hit me 5 times in a row its war now

277k

[tropic summit]

oh that's in range

and ada is lower HP than vestiTU ye?

[covert lintel]

War gems

[cedar sorrel]

Lower than tvesti and rh yep

Lowest in general obv

[tropic summit]

@gaunt pulsar what do you think

ada blanc vestiTU rh jackal

vesti pops their stacks, ada solo afterward?

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[gaunt pulsar]

could work, we could pop moran stack before they enter noah invul which is also beneficial for this

[glad meteor]

Had a feeling its inconsistent when i watched it earlier

[cedar sorrel]

This won yday btw lol

[tropic summit]

@cedar sorrel start running that team in shooting range as i don't know if ada and vestiTU stay linked with RH in the equation

[covert lintel]

If besti is linked, she will suffer to swha first shot

[cedar sorrel]

How would RH affect it?

[glad meteor]

The moran prob just survived when you did lose

[tropic summit]

3 attackers, only 2 can stay linked

as rakuen mentioned, if vesti is linked, link gonna take heavier dmg

we just need vesti tu sudoku and pop their biscuit stacks

[cedar sorrel]

Ah ada isnt linked based off of raw atk stat

[tropic summit]

run it in shooting range, OLs are not included in the GUI pre battle

[cedar sorrel]

Do cubes affect it

[tropic summit]

as far as i know there's no cube that raises atk%, so no

[cedar sorrel]

Huh wow ada and tvesti are linked

[tropic summit]

there we go

[cedar sorrel]

I do have decent rolls on ada

[tropic summit]

guess we can fit RH afterall... question is if we wanna take the risk of getting ele weak on link

[gaunt pulsar]

rh is 0% atk you should be fine

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtNjQ1MTc4MDEwNzkxMDk0NjYwMw%3D%3D

his ada is 10 and vesti is 25

[cedar sorrel]

My man has my blabla on deck

[tropic summit]

are we gonna survive to 2RL B2 with vesti taking splasheroni on link

[cedar sorrel]

Im temperingless FYI

[tropic summit]

surely you got tempering to lvl 3 or lvl 4 at least

[cedar sorrel]

Nah I just dont own it idk when ur supposed to get it

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Jackal vesti blanc ada helmt wont work?

[tropic summit]

ada is lower HP

[glad meteor]

Vesti and helmt linked right

[tropic summit]

dunno ask him

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

imo the ada indom with vesti offburst fishing out the stacks should wipe

iirc ada is 1hitko on moran

if anything... science 🍿

[gaunt pulsar]

from his blabla he should have ada and vesti linked and vesti needs vigor

[cedar sorrel]

Yes they are

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

but vesti indom is boring compared to ada indom

[glad meteor]

[gaunt pulsar]

🍿

[cedar sorrel]

Also my ada is only 10107 idk if that matters if she is the burster

[glad meteor]

Watch moran piSSS over both compa anyway

[tropic summit]

ultimately it's up to him anyway

@cedar sorrel pick ur poison

[gaunt pulsar]

ada on 1 ammo is fine for indom?

[tropic summit]

oh no clue aint familiar enough with ada actually

@swift mango @tidal lichen how's ada indom with 1 ammo OL?

[tidal lichen]

should be fine

[cedar sorrel]

Hahahahaha yessirrr just did my AI runs rq

[tidal lichen]

my ada has no ammo lines and shes doing fine

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

then we got a 3rd option actually

[cedar sorrel]

My ada is getting kinda cracked love to see it

[tidal lichen]

ada is goated.

[tropic summit]

which one you wanna see the most @gaunt pulsar @glad meteor @tidal lichen

ada indom
vestiTU indom

[tidal lichen]

against what

[tropic summit]

dis

option 2 probably is a bit safer, option 1 is more 🍿

[glad meteor]

You guys cook. I’ll sit in my chair and watch

[tidal lichen]

i dont think ada is beating that

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

👨‍🦽

[cedar sorrel]

Bruh lemme do OC rq for lvl 8 burst

[tidal lichen]

its joever if moran doesnt die in 1 hit

[glad meteor]

👨‍🦽‍➡️

[cedar sorrel]

Oh

[tropic summit]

hmm

what are the odds she survives ada on blanc and her own buff tho

also on RH buff

surely that's enough...

[gaunt pulsar]

have no experience with ada skipped her, but we could try and see

[tropic summit]

@cedar sorrel aight you make the choice

[cedar sorrel]

I mean idc anymore this guy farmed me down to bot 11 😭 😭

[tropic summit]

option 1

• ada blanc vestiTU rh jackal, vestiTU on vigor

option 2

• jackal vestiTU blanc helmT ada (vestiTU and helmT linked, vigor on helmT)

pick one and record 🍿

[cedar sorrel]

Ill do ada cuz like it seems no one is too knowledgeable with her so maybe we can all amass some knowledge from my beating

I will do OC rq tho for 10108 ada

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/apothecary-diaries-maomao-4

[leaden canyon]

I need to watch season 2 of that, I dont think I even finished season 1

[cedar sorrel]

Also my ada has 5.21% CS idk if that does anything

[glad meteor]

They just slot her in as a off burst buffer

[cedar sorrel]

Yea thats usually how I use her everywhere

[tidal lichen]

she survived my miranda ada once

[gaunt pulsar]

pretty much nothing, but welcomed nonetheless

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/blinking-eyes-white-guy-2

[cedar sorrel]

I just kept it cux its a blue line can I roll it away then or what

[gaunt pulsar]

leave it, you already have atk there on that piece, gloves or chest could have 2nd cs line and then you would be on 11, she isn't battery but could still help having that

[cedar sorrel]

Ic ic

[umbral crown]

i can confirm

[cedar sorrel]

Why does tvesti need vigor?

[gaunt pulsar]

vesti>ada

unless your blabla slightly outdated we need less hp on ada for indom

[tropic summit]

it depends on which indom preference you going for

if ada indom, vestiTU needs higher HP
if vestiTU indom, you already have vestiTU and helmT linked, so ada no longer matters

[gaunt pulsar]

ah

[cedar sorrel]

Ah okay yeah ur right

[gaunt pulsar]

i guess his vesti doesn't have pve cube, so that's why values are skewed, lol

[tropic summit]

ye too many times those stats pre battle messed up ppl links

i only trust shooting range

[cedar sorrel]

I removed cubes from a lot of units cuz I was doing low deficit clearing

Then I put some back on to try MC

So thats why some are naked and some arent

Cubeless

[gaunt pulsar]

ic ic, still for the safety prob. would use vigor on unit you dont want indom on

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I put vigor on tvesti

Ill try it now

Like this right

[tropic summit]

assuming:

• ada and vestiTU linked (you confirmed via shooting range)
• ada lower HP than vestiTU (vigor on vestiTU)

record and yolo

[cedar sorrel]

Yup I checked and its all good

Holy cook 🧑‍🍳

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor @tidal lichen @gaunt pulsar

[cedar sorrel]

Ada didnt even break a sweat that was freelo

[glad meteor]

One taperinos

[tropic summit]

turned moran back into a mortal

[cedar sorrel]

Damn maybe I gotta make this my def

[gaunt pulsar]

[cedar sorrel]

Time to farm this guy

[gaunt pulsar]

never, just annoy him with attacks, he wouldn't be able to climb anyway if you both attack each other until he changes to even easier team

[cedar sorrel]

Keep in mind I beat his def once that win down there was him flopping my def once.

I hit the guy once I actually try to never double or triple hit cuz of manners

Ignore my 2 losses

[cedar sorrel]

Fairs yeah actually

[cedar sorrel]

Bruh Im refreshing but he aint appearing like no I dont wanna hit the guy thats easier with more points

This guy had a lot of time on his hands to keep refreshing to hit me bro like this takes so long

[gaunt pulsar]

rookie ain't worth to:
A: reveal to enemy what you attacked them with by doing it your def
B: to cook strong defense that people can test teams on and beat your similar-ish team in SPA
keep it simple and boring, makes it funnier when they dont know what you attack them with and desperately trying to change team that makes them lose to even more people/or makes it easier for you

[cedar sorrel]

I see that makes sense

[gaunt pulsar]

that's a face i haven't seen in years

[cedar sorrel]

Should I change this def then cuz its pretty similar

[arctic jewel]

Uuuuggghhh... this isn't going well...

[tropic summit]

what's that abomination for

[arctic jewel]

I want to test Rosanna and Label in Rookie... but I'm having trouble team building, it's difficult to get that burst gen

And yes, I agree, it's an abomination

[gaunt pulsar]

your ada isn't even linked there so it's fine, let him think that you sell off her for some reason he probably kills her anyway as she is outside of link

[cedar sorrel]

Yea its supposed to bait

Idk its a meme 🤣

[tidal lichen]

i miss her

this raid sucks.

[gaunt pulsar]

my rookie def that doesn't hold anything besides unexperienced players before that it was libe indom, nothing fancy

[gaunt pulsar]

i miss Dreamer kinda, not really was long time ago

[cedar sorrel]

So u dont rewlly change ur def a lot?

[gaunt pulsar]

nah, why would i want them to learn

i fight them all in spa

[cedar sorrel]

makes sense

In spa Ive been getting kinda cooked noahless is shite

Im getting my 2k gems and thats ab it

When my moran is treasured I can prob overhaul them

[humble tiger]

I'm gonna put an alarm that wakes me up at like 11 PM cuz there's some guy attacking me during that time.

[cedar sorrel]

Thanks for the help yall btw that was cool 💪

[tribal hollow]

This is what I recently changed to in rookie. Feels tough to crack, but I could just be stupid

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit my thought process was basically this:

• Use Rosanna to get rid of strong DPS Nikkes
• What if my opponent uses Cinderella, I need to protect my team from her

But after a few minutes with team building, it probably just sucks

[tribal hollow]

Coming from the attacker side, feels like any indom teams struggle to hold long enough. And if they do make it, they often struggle to finish off Moran even if they kill everyone else. Blanc edition of slow Cindy also didn't work, but again, feel like that might be skill issue

[gaunt pulsar]

I once tried to cook new def every day for like 2 weeks straight but not many was biting to feel results was doing it just for fun to do weird combinations, but it's not worth it, if anything just copy enemy def to potentially annoy them, though it would probably make them feel better because you reserved to copy their def hard to play those mindgames sometimes

[cedar sorrel]

Im honestly also just getting gapped by some people so it doesnt even matter lol

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah if I saw that Id be tinkering for a while to beat it probably

[arctic jewel]

I don't think it's that stupid to do, sometimes they don't know how to counter their own teams, because they usually have the mindset that their team has no flaws

[tropic summit]

there's no unbeatable def, the best you can do is take a route and stick with it then hope the enemy fails to use the right cards to beat it

aim for strong general purposes teams but don't expect to cover all of their weaknesses

[leaden canyon]

defense is also really weak right now, attacking has such a big advantage its kinda lame

[tribal hollow]

That's exactly what I'm finding. They may run it, but they themselves don't actually know how to beat it

[arctic jewel]

Guess I just have to accept that there's no way of being consistent with Defense

[cedar sorrel]

OSanis better be a good PVP defence unit

[tropic summit]

that's correct, defense shouldn't and can't aim to "win", but you can make it hard or tricky

a defense that needs specific cards to be solved is a good defense

[leaden canyon]

Some times you can find a defense that works for weeks and then a defense that works once, just change it every time it gets beat

[arctic jewel]

Which I'm basically doing right now

But I just need to accept reality, but then again, it's just Rookie, the rewards are kinda meh anyway

[leaden canyon]

oh yeh rookie doesn't matter

[tribal hollow]

Yep, look at the numbers and you'll realize it's meaningless. But good to experiment in for important things, AKA SpA

[arctic jewel]

It seems pretty important for some players

(One of my opponents)

[cedar sorrel]

Weirdo

[gaunt pulsar]

I find more fun in rookie by either not playing it at all or testing teams instead attacking gets tiring when you aren't seeking rivalry with anybody and also doesn't get attacked back much

[cedar sorrel]

Some people have crazy ego problems

[tribal hollow]

That is some ego, what a moron

[undone blaze]

I always get hit by the same 2 ppl who have 2x my cp in rookie

[tribal hollow]

I would be revelling every single day if I got someone to gem that much in SpA, let alone rookie. Thanks for the laugh

[arctic jewel]

I forgot to change my slow Cindy team to my usual team after the reset (because there's another guy that has trouble dealing with that team, another very similar opponent to this Disto guy), and when he saw my Cindy team... well... this happened

[undone blaze]

I actually won a defense in spa for the first time in weeks?

[umbral belfry]

it's me, fight back

jk it's likely not me. but still fight back

[undone blaze]

Ill die in 2 seconds

[umbral belfry]

believe

[arctic jewel]

Well, ok then, let's try another approach then. What are some solid or even wacky Rosanna teams? Since my annoying opponents are obsessed of indom lately, I wanna throw them off a bit

[swift mango]

Enough for 2rl indom. I don't remember trying 3rl.

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Nah 1 ammo is still good for extra 23% AtK. Not everyone has the CS that I could benefit from lowering her ammo.

[umbral belfry]

• and another clip

[tropic summit]

ye worked out
#pvp-arena message

[arctic jewel]

Hmmm... I feel like that's a bit too common, but I could try that for sure

[tropic summit]

mess with this archetype

p1 should be linked, p3 can be linked or unlinked, rosanna should always be linked

[umbral belfry]

it is common guess you could try absolute rosa

never for defending though

[swift mango]

10 ammo is barely enough for 2rl indom. Would need bastion for slow ada.

[umbral belfry]

well I wouldn't say common team. common rosa team outside of sg yeah

[tropic summit]

is ada on blanc and her own buff alone still lethal to 1hitko moran without a biscuit stack on?

[arctic jewel]

My OG Mast, EmmaTU and EunhwaTU aren't built

[umbral belfry]

alas

[keen vapor]

:pepeh: why you always want me to make misuse of my rocks

[swift mango]

Defend on Moran HP at the time if full you probably need 40% AtK or Crit.

[arctic jewel]

Oh right, I forgot this one! I tested the team on shooting range, my Snow White and Helm are linked unfortunately

[swift mango]

Well, it depends on your bracket and if you put Scarlet p1 always or not.

[tropic summit]

ok sub either swha or helmt for a unit that keeps you 2RL but puts rosanna linked

you can be down to 94-97% to 2RL, at worse 90% to 2RL

[tropic summit]

oh ok so as long as moran is around 50-70% hp should be fine

[swift mango]

Investment matter too. You can't expect a 0lb ada to kill max core max hp Moran with just blanc

[arctic jewel]

My Liberalio is kinda poopy

I'll test with her tomorrow

[cedar sorrel]

My ada was 17.83 atk and 38.54 crit dmg

[swift mango]

Well, you need to get Crit first.

[arctic jewel]

Or I just need to get better OL gear... that's gonna take a while

[swift mango]

My ada is kinda similar. At least it was cheap to build her.

[tropic summit]

makes sense i guess, adding an RH buff to the equation probably enough to make up for it

[cedar sorrel]

Noice Im not done yet with her but she is looking pretty good now

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry Arcana is very waifu, I’m not mad at you stealing my rocks no more, temptation route is scary af tho.

[swift mango]

If my Ada Crit max HP Moran would fall but

[tropic summit]

ye some routes are a bit messed up

[hollow lagoon]

The student one true end is very whole some tho

The normal end is kinda weird

[tropic summit]

someone has been doing some reading eh

[hollow lagoon]

The teacher student arcana true ending pertty nice, the normal one is bit creepy, the unhinged one is messed up

[arctic jewel]

Done one true ending for student and both the endings for teacher

[swift mango]

wasn't it all flirting story? I haven't read it yet.

[hollow lagoon]

But I got the arcana student true ending pertty nice on my first arcana route attempt so I guess it was good

[swift mango]

Can you tell me how was it creepy? Is there any element in this story that's not flirting?

[hollow lagoon]

Straight up life ruining tier

For the real dark one

[swift mango]

Still flirting right?

[hollow lagoon]

It ain’t flirting at that point

Both you and arcana abondon responsibilities (implied your and her real jobs as well) and basically go full degen

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

I like her enough to give her max doll

[arctic jewel]

The relationship basically becomes too degen. Arcana is slightly against it at first, telling the Commander to take responsibility, but after a while even, she just doesn't care anymore

[swift mango]

Auto tower a few days ago. And now my credit is still overflow after gear upgrade.

[hollow lagoon]

Depends on the path, essentially once she takes off her inhibitions she drags you back in if you try to break away

[arctic jewel]

And at the end, all they care about is basically indulging themselves in intimacy

[hollow lagoon]

The normal route is basically you trying to restore some semblance of normalcy

Which is still pertty bad

But the bad route is full unhinged

[arctic jewel]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

you were supposed to fix her

[hollow lagoon]

But the student route true end is super wholesome

[arctic jewel]

Yeah I did that just recently

[hollow lagoon]

this is student route tho, it dosnt go into the creepy weird stuff

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon~~ although maybe whatever was wrong with her was hot anyway ~~

[arctic jewel]

Although most of true routes have been great imo

[humble tiger]

😭 Arcana was too much for me.

[tropic summit]

ye i know, it's the 2 CGs that i like the most from her so far

[hollow lagoon]

I haven’t gotten Privity ones yet

[humble tiger]

I only have SxP left.

[tropic summit]

whatever you do, beware

[tropic summit]

[humble tiger]

She's such a girlfriend material.

It pisses me off. Cuz a girl like her doesn't exist IRL. And even if one does, she wouldn't me into me.

[hollow lagoon]

Unless u give in

[hollow lagoon]

Lel true

[arctic jewel]

I haven't done Privaty student route yet, but the teacher one is pretty good, mature, except one scene, but whatever

[humble tiger]

This event is just a reminder of how shit my love life is.

[hollow lagoon]

Kek lots of drinking, I don’t drink do I won’t understand

[hollow lagoon]

So what I’m single for 35 years

[humble tiger]

Still counting.

[hollow lagoon]

Yep

Praise the Omnissiah

[humble tiger]

Reminds me of my first and only girlfriend...

[hollow lagoon]

If I have a girl I prob won’t have money to spend on NIKKE

[humble tiger]

I wish I didn't fumble it. I wish I remained patient during that time.

[swift mango]

I think this game is taunting me.

[hollow lagoon]

What?

[swift mango]

Def > hit rate > DEF

[hollow lagoon]

U got ele and atk on 1 piece your luck is already exceptional

[swift mango]

I didn't even reroll for Ele but Ammo.

[arctic jewel]

What Nikke?

[cedar sorrel]

Permalock atk

[umbral crown]

rapipi

[swift mango]

Laplace

[arctic jewel]

Ugh

Shame she wasn't Moran

[swift mango]

I think I may just give up and reroll attribute on Ele.

[arctic jewel]

I really dislike the OL gear rerolling xD

[swift mango]

But it's stupid

So I was hoping something that's not def or hit rate at least.

[arctic jewel]

Anyway, GN people

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit I’m sync 625 I will defeat you one day

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-girl-tired-anime-tired

[hollow lagoon]

I wanted surface mode hex code system to even the odds but that stuff is like on the dumpster it seems

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe I’ll defeat you if I reach 700

It will be a long journey

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

i want to see the day i see zant in top 10 of SR (on last day)

[arctic jewel]

That mode had a lot of issues, it would have taken way too much time to both fix and balance things. But I don't think they will completely abandon it

[swift mango]

My luck just doesn't exist I guess. Maybe I just stop now I wait for rocks to go up.

[arctic jewel]

Anyway, I really need to sleep now xD

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t hate it Lel

[hollow lagoon]

Me too Lel

[swift mango]

@tropic summit should I keep rerolling or stop and reroll attribute for Ele line so it's not tier 2 anymore.

[tropic summit]

this lappy?

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[tropic summit]

i don't think you're CP starved, fine as is

[swift mango]

Reroll attribute for Ele would add more dmg against Moran.

[tropic summit]

and noise yeah, but not worth those extra rocks for 10%ish

[swift mango]

But it would be stupid if I reroll out DEF one day.

[tropic summit]

leave that piece alone imo

it's a rock sink to min/max it any further

[swift mango]

I mean, it's tier 2 line, improve to tier 5 shouldn't be that hard.

[tropic summit]

you need to lock line 3 and line 2 then reroll line 1

you looking at around 4 to 20 rocks based on luck

[cedar sorrel]

Off topic but anyone here know how to deal with MC

[tropic summit]

there's a whole lot of options nowdays, used to be far more specific before we had so many good SRs

it's also dependant on your synchro though

the main bottleneck is if you're able to destroy the slippers

[cedar sorrel]

This is what Im doing currently but idk if my team isnt built to break slippers or if Im mistiming it or whatever

Im trying to break it with swha but idt it has been working

[tropic summit]

try asking in #questions they've some guides and clears with several approaches

they probably have one with ada and crown iirc

ye might be doable with SWHA on burst

[cedar sorrel]

Hmm on burst then I need to time better

On burst with the big shot or on burst with reg shot is fine?

[tropic summit]

you need to be on B3 for sure

[tropic summit]

#questions , i'm not familiar with SWHA clear as i did it with Ein

[cedar sorrel]

Alrighty thanks anyways

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[shell hazel]

look at this evil guy here Rail?!

[tropic summit]

real evil

[shell hazel]

supreme evil

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon he's biting at your ankles already

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-mord-bite-bitting-gif-13860829

[swift mango]

My 2 options are

1- Reroll attributes for Ele to tier 5+. 3 rocks each. Then save rock for Emi.
2- Keep reroll until CS, Ammo, Crit rate or Crit DMG drop then reroll attributes.

[tropic summit]

don't 2 for sure

rather 1 then leave lappy alone, aint worth it

some champs aren't even using lappy anymore

[swift mango]

Those are fake champs. No reason to not use lappy

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

They probably not treasure lappy and just get lucky.

[tropic summit]

we've a lot of options nowdays, in 2024-2025 having lappy treasured was far more important

[swift mango]

Idk how much 13% def is worth on laplace.

[tropic summit]

in CA it isn't
in SP arena it is for CP

[swift mango]

Well, maybe it's around 1% dmg reduction?

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

I mean this piece was 3 x tier 11 before so if I just needed CP I won't reroll. If I stop now as is, it's like spending my rock for nothing.

🚮

[tropic summit]

pain

imo that piece is done, just can't see it worth it min/maxing further

if you ever really feel like you've a surplus of rocks fixing ele to 20% would be ok

[swift mango]

It doesn't need to be 20%, 10% just give me ocd

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Depends on their split

[cedar sorrel]

I ended up clearing with no one helping me

[glad meteor]

Nice.

Tell behemoth i said hi

[cedar sorrel]

She said die

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/sasaki-and-miyano-sasaki-to-miyano-anime-boy-smile-gif-17883348795256658808

That’s my girl

[swift mango]

I still need CS or ammo. Could use those stat.

Bastion instead of Tempering is a 10% Ele drop.

So an ammo line is equal 10% Ele.

[umbral crown]

and here i was thinking to remove one of the black ammo lines mine has

[swift mango]

It's a pain but I have another option of locking line 2 atk to fish for slot 3 Ele, ammo or CS here.

[crystal flicker]

Fishing yamada

[glad meteor]

Yamada kun and the seven witches

[jagged current]

Guys, I'd like to talk to someone in order to help me reorganize my SP Arena teams. I took some in-game screenshots of the actual teams and my roster.

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/loving-yamada-at-lv999-akito-yamada-gif-14235003754591350721

[jagged current]

If anyone has a moment to spare.

[umbral crown]

the hottie yamada?

[glad meteor]

Different

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

post them

kara gonna do the thing

[glad meteor]

MA, you must cook

[jagged current]

I am getting used to PVP, so go easy on me for putting my teams together based off what I thought was OK... XD

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?type=combat&openid=MjkwODAtNzczNzg2MzM0MTYzNTU2NDczOA==

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Dis one

[jagged current]

Oh, and by the way, beyond Poli and Soline, I haven't even touched those Nikkes. Still got a lot to invest on

[unique mountain]

[umbral crown]

looks interesting, gonna watch it later

[glad meteor]

I thought you were big anime watcher

There’s even anime you haven’t watched

[crystal flicker]

old classic

[glad meteor]

Indeed

[candid pawn]

what their effect lmao im still not unlock them

[jagged current]

You use those to level up "Harmony Cubes" to then equip to your Nikkes. Each has their own skill and atributes.

[crystal flicker]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1245498090354638989

[candid pawn]

wait im in wrong channel sry and thanks

[jagged current]

No problems 🙂

[candid pawn]

is any of them must use in pvp ?

[crystal flicker]

https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/2026/winter
I'm doing winter marathon rn

[jagged current]

Most definately. If you check Prydwen's website, there is an entire section reserved for Harmony Cubes, and which Nikke's best choice to go along

[crystal flicker]

When you're gonna level up to Amateur Rosy
Gotta snatch those merchs

[crystal flicker]

Only Quantum, Tempering, and Adjutant
The rest just there for cp mixmax

[umbral crown]

SP Defense
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Rapipi/Jackal
Blanc/VestiTactical/SnowHA/Biscuit/Liter
Noise/Alice/Red Hood/Noir/Centi

to get a better perfomance i suggest you to invest in the following units:
Moran and get her favorite item
Helm and get her favorite item
Centi with basic OL and a doll
Privaty and get her favorite item

[umbral crown]

i am but sometimes i skip some cuz lastly have not found a good one

[umbral crown]

i do not know *but i like my Ein next to my name

[jagged current]

Thank you for the analysis, Ms. Dareina. Yes, those are great Nikkes you mentioned, but brand new to my roster (believe me, I got 4 Morans just this week alone, a lucky streak), and I'm investing in Centi to tag along the others

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

give me morans

[jagged current]

I know, right? O_O

[umbral crown]

hahahha

[candid pawn]

who use thempering ?

[umbral crown]

but yeah, keep growing

[swift mango]

suddenly you name color is a good thing

[jagged current]

One of them came from a single "Social Point" pull

[umbral crown]

indeed, it was a sigm

Mau is stealing out morans

[candid pawn]

use the 200mielage for moran

and silver one for copies

[umbral crown]

i would... but missing 80 silver tix

[jagged current]

Hahahaha, I wish... 🙂 Again, it was a lucky streak. NEver to happen again. The proof is that my Moran is still level 1. I'm working on Helm and Scarlet for the moment

[crystal flicker]

Stall comp and everyone on Pos 1 (Except you're CS mixmax or running Biscuit)

[jagged current]

Do you have suggestions for my 3 attack teams?

[candid pawn]

🙏 thanks

[cedar sorrel]

Attack completely depends on ur opp defence

[jagged current]

I know there are new units there which I still didn't fit, like Cinderella

[umbral crown]

usually attack teams depends of what you are facing but..

[jagged current]

Oh, is it common to swap teams on the fly as you find new opponents on SP arena?

[cedar sorrel]

Its essentially a puzzle ur trying to solve. Find 2 of opp teams u can beat and leave the hardest one to fail

[jagged current]

Honest question, as I'm still learning about PVP

[crystal flicker]

Only if you're in their CP range

[umbral crown]

for now you can use the scar team and blanc team is uggest you, try to focus to get 2 wins instead 3

[cedar sorrel]

Yes exactly

As u play (and ask around here) u find ways to break common archetypes

[umbral crown]

cuz for 3 wins you will need more units and investments

[cedar sorrel]

https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

This website is very useful to calculate your and your opponents their burst speed. Shown in RL which is a measurement of time.
2RL would mean u burst at the speed 2 standard rocket launchers are shot

[jagged current]

Wow, there is much more work put on PVP than I thought. To me, it was just "build 3 teams" and let the show happen by itself

[crystal flicker]

Tbf, if you're a whale yes

[jagged current]

Never considered changing them to face different opponents, but it makes sense, I guess

[umbral crown]

this is when you have the cp and investments

you do kaboom things

[cedar sorrel]

Usually the fastest team wins. When you throw in other gimmicks it can be more interesting than that

[jagged current]

Roger that. So far, my best is reaching the "challenger 10" spot. I can't go higher than that. 🙂

[umbral crown]

i remember when i was new in pvp, i was just auto and hoping for the best

[jagged current]

... that's kinda what I was doing till now. XD

[cedar sorrel]

If u get 2k gems every season ur already pretty set

[jagged current]

That I am 🙂

[umbral crown]

forced my way to challenger and when i think about it ... i do not know how hahaha

but here i got lot of help to improve my cooking skills to get where i am now

[cedar sorrel]

When u invest into solid pvp units like
Jackal noah blanc helmt swha tvesti biscuit moran
And others like centi trina rumani noise

U can easily crack beyond ch10

[jagged current]

You're right.
I'll try to visit this thread more ofen, and learn the ins and outs of PVP sorting. I cannot simply go swapping my attack teams yet, because I do not have the knowledge. But I'll get there.

[jagged current]

I hope so. 😄
My Blanc has been growing rapidly too. She's just reached +1 Core yesterday.
Now I'm focusing on building Moran

[umbral crown]

when you are about to attack, feel free to ask here, everyone will help you

[jagged current]

Thanks, I shall. o/

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah thats how I got the help to beat this team

My original set up wasnt winning anymore so I needed their help

[glad meteor]

Lmk if you finish

[cedar sorrel]

And now I learned something new too

Its pretty fun honestly when ur opps arent like 40% higher in cp than you

[umbral crown]

you just need to show the teams like these pics , all 3 teams

[jagged current]

Goddayum!

[cedar sorrel]

Ada hitting 5 clean headshots love to see it

[jagged current]

You guys are too good. Look at those CPs and levels. 😄 I'm just 4 months in, but a guy can dream, hahah...

[cedar sorrel]

Im only synch 233 rn Im pretty new

[umbral crown]

[cedar sorrel]

But lots of people here been playing for a while especially the dedicated pvpers so they have a lot of knowledged

[jagged current]

Honest question, do you guys have stalkers in Rookie Arena because of your progress in Special Arena? I got this one dude who keeps coming for me 3~4 timesa day over there, because he cannot beat me and rank beyond in SP. And he's found a way to deal with my defense team on Rookie too, so I always end up dropping aaaaaall the way to the bottom. 🙁

[cedar sorrel]

This guy I beat got mad I beat his def once so he attacked me 5 times in a row with 4 wins

[jagged current]

Much respect!

[umbral crown]

so its time to change your defense

[jagged current]

This dude here has been doing it to me for 3 weeks now

[cedar sorrel]

It happens. In the end rookie arena pos doesnt matter that much in the grand scheme od things

U can change def in rookie but also gotta keep in mind u can actuallt help the people there then beat u in spa which is way more importwnt since its ab gems

[jagged current]

I know Rookie doesn't matter much, but being a new player, those sparse Arena coins do come in handy at the shop, when purchasing elemental code manuals.

[umbral crown]

yeah

[cedar sorrel]

So rookie is more casual if people wanna take it too seriously let them

[umbral crown]

i will

[jagged current]

Would you guys like to analyse my defense team in Rookie Arena to see if I can swap things around and make it better?

Or is it just not worth the hassle?

[umbral crown]

of course, share your rookie defense

[jagged current]

Ok, one moment

[umbral crown]

we are here to send a message

[cedar sorrel]

I think if u win 5 timesevery day and make ur def good enough that like only the top 4 or so can beat it then ull end up in fine positions for the resource gain

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

i just attack 5 different people every day

but just 1 boi trade 1 attack with me daily

[umbral crown]

we kinda got that agreetment without words

[jagged current]

You got your PVP etiquette on point, as everybody should be. I also attack an opponent just once per day, never twice. But this one dude, man... doing it 4~5 times in a row is rough. And he's lower level than me, so I get extra points deducted and end up falling way more

[umbral crown]

go with:
Jackal/VestiTactical/Blanc/SnowHA/DrakeT

[cedar sorrel]

This team is hella slow so ur opps will just walk over it

Generally speaking running things like MGs and SMGs and ARs are bad in PVP cuz of their horrible burst gen

[umbral crown]

its kinda because we know each other from the 160 days, when i broke the wall i was gemming to keep C1 for a really long time that just 1 boy attacks me now, they do not gem like i was doing so the message was sent succcessfully

[jagged current]

You mean my team is slow? I'm still learning about this RL speed thingie... so I want to get better

[cedar sorrel]

If u change the rrh out for a better B3 that has good burst gen the team will be upgraded A LOT already

Also usually u wanna place jackal linked units up front since Position1-2-3 take the most dmg unless if they run SGs then they hit P5

[umbral crown]

you can go with this, cp should improve

its important to send a message

[jagged current]

Roger that

[umbral crown]

other boi was attacking daily but i got his time attack and he could not hold my spot for more than 30 mins so at the end he gave up

[jagged current]

I shall change the defense team right away, on both Arenas. Thanks to all of you nice folks here. ❤️

[cedar sorrel]

Biscuit with jackal also isnt needed since jackal shares dmg with ur other 3 units so its extremelt rare she will just die.

And down the line u want them to die sort of anyway cuz youre running an blanc indom team

[jagged current]

Oh, I see. MAkes sense

[swift mango]

Or OCD reason. When I started, before SpA unlocked, I built a team to hit a guy and I was out of hit. So 100 gem or wait one day. The suspension stress for 1 day vs 100 gem. Which would I choice.

[cedar sorrel]

The team dareina suggested is already a lot better. If u get helmt or a good clip RL like centi levelled up u can replace drake for it

[crystal flicker]

Must be nice dead bracket

[umbral crown]

also this team has good win rate the one below

[swift mango]

Like the reward matter in that stress.

[umbral crown]

kinda, starf is reviving after long time without action

[jagged current]

Since you showed your chart, take a look at my stalker:

This is all while I am offline

[umbral crown]

[jagged current]

If I approach top 10, the guy pushes me down again

[swift mango]

I wished I was in same rookie as you so I coudl request Moran team

[crystal flicker]

Finally you have a rival

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

the only one hahah

[swift mango]

No one in my rookie use Moran anymore it's suck

[umbral crown]

others do not even try like him

[umbral crown]

in rookie also a team like: Moran/Noah/HelmT/SnowHA/Red Hood has good win rate

[jagged current]

For attack or defense?

[umbral crown]

get more cp

[umbral crown]

both

[jagged current]

Oh cool

[swift mango]

Like wtf, everyone use the trash jackal Noah scarlet without noise or biscuit now. They don't even use indom.

[umbral crown]

i used that team but with emilia instead snow and nobody except doro could beat me

[swift mango]

My Rookie is worthless

The only thing I could test now is timing against 2rl Noah

[jagged current]

Noah still hasn't graced me with her presence yet. One day I shall build that dream team. 🙂

[umbral crown]

invest more in pvp like i do, your life will change. i can confirm

[jagged current]

I've saved the composition here, and shall apply it in the near future, thank you

[umbral crown]

[versed mesa]

My longest streak where no one hit me was 169 days, though I think I lost the screenshot. 3 anniv shuffle though ruined it all

[jagged current]

Will do. 🙂

I have to go for tonight (its late in Brazil), but wanted to thank everybody for all the great suggestions. May you all have a great weekend.

[umbral crown]

testing some stuff and working so far

[umbral crown]

have a good night, in the caribe its 11:29 pm

waos

nix is living in the future

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-future-gif-4767605

[glad meteor]

Me at 3;31 in uk

[umbral crown]

come to DR

you gonna enjoy the moment

[glad meteor]

Don’t you have baseball to win

[umbral crown]

we lost to USA in Semi

we were almost there but things happen

[glad meteor]

Damn americans

[umbral crown]

2029 it is then

Vladdy, Tatis and Soto gonna carry

like the pvp units carry me in pvp/pve

[undone blaze]

Won't change much

I've been investing into my pvp units but people still outpace me somehow

[umbral crown]

level gap?

or your rivals also investing in pvp

[undone blaze]

Some dude I could easily take out a week ago, all of a sudden I couldn't touch him today

Wasted 7 attempts

[umbral crown]

but ... new defense or same

[undone blaze]

Same def, I even saved the screenshots of when I won against him

[crystal flicker]

You should've asked there first

[umbral crown]

he choose the hard way to learn uwu

gemming

[undone blaze]

Idk why he attacked me, we're both guarateed top 6, but he wanted spot #5 i guess

[crystal flicker]

Same def can be different CS, different Deficit, or different ATK lines

5th pos allow you to attack up to top 2

For CA

[undone blaze]

He hasn't attacked top 4 despite #4 being so easy to take out even i could

[umbral crown]

or like same defense but swapping B3s

[undone blaze]

I had a battle with #4 once, we both wasted about 2k gems in under an hour

[crystal flicker]

If you coming from lower, attacking top 4 wont bring you to CA coz the time they spend on Top 4 prob outweight your profit

[umbral crown]

that reminds me when i had a gem war for a weekend, we both spent like 12k

[crystal flicker]

People only start attacking me after I inactive for a month

[umbral crown]

starf attacked me when i was offline 2 days after maint

nix is 801

[crystal flicker]

And still winning

You're joined this server 2023 tho

[versed mesa]

It's nice to feel like an outcast everywhere I go

[cedar sorrel]

Whats your synch??

[swift mango]

[cedar sorrel]

Any of these pvp relevant?

[stuck parcel]

It's been forever and a half since I've seen that Rapunzel used.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Label to counter 2 RL scar and rosa, soline to make your units survive any P1 or P5 preassure like SGs

Also fast cindy teams

[swift mango]

Well, there isn't many b1 defender for that slot. Tia is better for Dmg but Helm would snipe Label and team became useless. Moran is good but it take her usage from another team. Ludmilla is nice but would need SR15.

[cedar sorrel]

Ahh so theyre actually at least relevant thats cool

[umbral crown]

Yeah, niche in some way

[swift mango]

Both are good in CA.

[umbral crown]

But mostly CA units , can be used in sp bit needs investment to not make you lose cp and go into deficit

[stuck parcel]

Definitely get the reasoning behind it, gives me ideas!

[cedar sorrel]

I see thanks yall

[swift mango]

spender is often called whale. In Arena, it's about whale lvl. You synch 707 is pretty whale in Rosy position but for day one player is just so so.

[umbral crown]

cuz the level mostly

like costumes and stuff

happens when we get old

do not

[lost ether]

i have a strong feeling these guys be working together to atk me

[umbral crown]

just keep checking to be ready to attack any moment

[covert lintel]

where did he troll you?
Another server?

[umbral crown]

[lost ether]

dang the pro

[umbral crown]

always reaady to send a message

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[lost ether]

[lost ether]

well, lowk kinda hard to do cuz 1 of them be hitting me like 30 secs before reset

[umbral crown]

[lost ether]

[umbral crown]

if you hold your spot longer than him its your win

cuz no point having 1 extra attack when you spend most of the time in C8 to say something

[lost ether]

the thing is, it doesnt even matter cuz me and him r in same reward tier and he be pulling ts

[umbral crown]

like..the bro is C6?

[lost ether]

yeah...

[umbral crown]

waos...

[lost ether]

clabbe is c6

the other 2 is c7 and c8

[umbral crown]

can you stand a chance against C3 or C2?

[lost ether]

uh nope

[umbral crown]

[lost ether]

2 mil cp gap

got fried after the shuffle, i was at 3rd

[umbral crown]

[lost ether]

[umbral crown]

real wheels

[lost ether]

they dont even atk each other....

[umbral crown]

if you have attack left, can you show the teams of C2

[umbral crown]

waos

C4 if you can please, wanna see if something can be made

[lost ether]

the c4 and c3 invested in pvp a lot

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

SYNCH

[umbral crown]

C4 has more cp in teams than C2

[lost ether]

yeah...

[umbral crown]

and thats without the 721 boost

[lost ether]

the whales must had some kind of agreement among each others

[umbral crown]

probably

c4 can beat till C2 but just 300 gems difference

probably no point for them

c2-c4 can fight each other without issues but they did not choose violence

[lost ether]

still, c4 invested so much into pvp he get the frame 2 for so many SR

[umbral crown]

pvp and pve. the dream

meanwhile me skipping pve units like last winter units

xbrid and xdiesel

[lost ether]

[keen vapor]

Metoo tbh

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

he skip everything

[umbral crown]

kinda

but not pvp units

this time i was lucky on arcana banner

got sbs first 10 and then arcana in 20

so 20 pulls for both units, win is a win

[lost ether]

[umbral crown]

i will hope 3.5 units are pvp, *do not wanna skip them like i did with some others before

what if we get another snowHA tier

[raven plover]

I mean echo

[umbral crown]

oh yeah, echo does

he skipped nier units and some collabs

[swift mango]

well, I can see Emi burst doesn't land 99% the time.

[umbral crown]

the plan was not emi to burst but she had some time left to do

i did a test with vesti p2 but she died and emi in p5 ended up bursting so i made it this way so if rosanna goes and do the thing, i can stilll burst with vesti

cuz the team is 2.5

[swift mango]

Yeah, Vesti need to be p4 to be safe and p2 is pretty bad.
But in you case you would still lose to SG back shot.

[umbral crown]

yeah, thats a chance but you know, CA is pure rng

[covert lintel]

Does your emma have full ol?🤔

[umbral crown]

of course

max skill also

using tempura lv15

[covert lintel]

I've seen many ppl in ca didn't build her

[umbral crown]

she also has some atk lines, eunwha as well

[umbral crown]

@swift mango that was the p2 vesti

here p5

[swift mango]

yeah, it works unless you meet SG back shot

[umbral crown]

i just need tp upgrade my odds of winning CA before it ends in S30

maybe p3 emma would be good since she heals a bit

eunwha B2 do a decent amount of damage

in last pic she does half of vesti damage

[covert lintel]

I plan to use rosanna and nayuta and let either eunhwa or emma die first

[umbral crown]

i plan to make eunwha 4 atk 4 ele and som crit dmg or rate

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

absolute for sr too

[umbral crown]

was the plan since day 1

the thing has to be done

[swift mango]

do you need to burst with Soline though? oh nvm

[covert lintel]

Why not use ada too?

[umbral crown]

not really, she was just there... to be there

[umbral crown]

can be an option

[swift mango]

I wonder if Absolute is used this season.

[covert lintel]

I lost the league to absolute

[swift mango]

I mean this SR season.

[covert lintel]

Besti still good for this sr, though idk for the other two

[wild drum]

So i dont havr noah i thought i sent a video

Pilgrim noah

And idk what u mean if helm is linked

[covert lintel]

My rh bricked now

[ionic rose]

Thats a lotta ammo

For a nikke that doesnt need ammo

[covert lintel]

I just want 4x atk, but ammo always appeared

[swift mango]

Your RH is much worse than mine so guess i shouldn't complain about my rock luck now.

for a week

[covert lintel]

Not just rh
So you should more grateful

[swift mango]

I mean we have similar atk but I only have 3 line, I also have Ele on top

[swift mango]

how much was the rocks you used on her.

[covert lintel]

I didn't count
Even in the past i used a lot of rocks on her to get rid of max ammo

[swift mango]

RH need max ammo though at least one line (pve reason)

my struggle on her was to snatch that one Ammo and one CS while keeping 3 lines

[covert lintel]

But the first roll i have x4 ammo and 1x atk 0x ED

[fallow nebula]

Tips for a moran team? Hust got her t

[spiral onyx]

No change really, she just gives the team a damage buff

[fallow nebula]

4710 is enough?

[spiral onyx]

Which is of course a good thing

[fallow nebula]

Any team works with her nothing specific?

[spiral onyx]

She used to be a universal defensive B1 pick. Now she's also a universal offensive B1 pick lol

[crystal flicker]

101010 if you have the mats and surplus for anniv
She can work with just about everyone, but her place most of the time is stall comp

[fallow nebula]

Oh prydwen said 101010

[torn obsidian]

s1 is not as important

also biggest tip is actually using tempering cubes on the rest of your team (barring some exceptions to units)

because of how DR stacking works

[crystal flicker]

Did DR capped at certain percentage?

[torn obsidian]

nope

that's why Nero can take 1 damage

[crystal flicker]

I have to recheck whether Lib ult can dmg her 100% dr or not

[torn obsidian]

Lib can't kill, i've tested it before (also i don't see why Lib's ult would bypass the mechanic)

[crystal flicker]

I know she cant kill, but does she deal 1 dmg to Nero?

[torn obsidian]

yeah

[crystal flicker]

Thanks!

Now we wait for Nero treasure

[fallow nebula]

For moran vigor or reduc

[swift mango]

Well, her buff is low, only around 26% attacker AtK. So not really that offensively good.

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-freaking-blind-willy-diggstown-101-are-you-blind-gif-23828551

[swift mango]

Wingman level 10.

[fallow nebula]

?

Oh k ill use wingman on her

[swift mango]

No, use tempering

[crystal flicker]

Hes trolling

[swift mango]

I mean the way you upgrade your cubes is rather particular.

[fallow nebula]

All good ones to 10

Thats what i wad taught

[swift mango]

Well, if you only need bastion upgrade, wingman is worse 99% the time.

No reason to upgrade

Even healing got level 10 on top of Vigor.

You could have got your Resilience to 15.

[fallow nebula]

brain hurt

so just do bastion resilience and vigor?

[swift mango]

No I mean you could just do Resilence but whatever is fine I guess

[fallow nebula]

ok i do resilience to 15 then bastion

i was working on getting destruction to 10

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Destruction is unique cube I guess. So I have no comment on that.

[whole ocean]

Not sure if anyone seen it before but two CA seasons ago my Mana was able to revive a dead unit from a Scarlet burst (Which also deleted Mana herself) Was this a bug or intentional design?

Ah found the recording

Maybe it was because Mana was stunned idk

[runic coral]

do you guys think it's worth investing into tempering now that I'm 15 on both resil/bastion

[whole ocean]

They might increase the cube levels in future updates but if you want to do Arena it is the go to

[runic coral]

was there a suggestion that they'd do this or just speculation?

[whole ocean]

Just speculation

[runic coral]

alrite, I'll give it some thought

[tropic summit]

post your box or blabla link set to public

[undone gate]

switch out Alice to P2 TPrivaty even if i drop from 525k to 497k cp? how much does deficit matter anyway?

[whole marten]

It increased to 20

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i think i got 3% maybe ill defeat you one day

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[vocal kelp]

@tropic summit RAil senseiç

do you had time to help me?

[tropic summit]

ye what's up

[vocal kelp]

so, last time you helped me to tune my pvp teams, I just asking if after this time has passes those teams are ideal or I need to replace something, because I was about to gear up Vesti

[tropic summit]

ye i see some units that would love to be replaced in there, post your units against and let's take a look

[vocal kelp]

rumani and biscuit are already build up too

k

[undone gate]

I would appreciate it of someone could check out my SP teams real quick. I know I am not rly using top of the meta units cause I am struggling to know when a way lower CP meta pvp unit would be worth it

box

[tropic summit]

T1 too slow
T2 too slow
T3 will be skipped for the other weak 2

highly reconsider lowering CP pad to gain a bit of speed on those 2

[undone gate]

so it would be worth it to drop from like 500k to 400k to add 2 low cp rocket launcher units?

[vocal kelp]

@tropic summit all righty then, this is my full roster

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt siren drakeT
• jackal scarlet lib blanc helmt
• moran noah cindy biscuit SWHA

Notes

• build asap noah, biscuit, jackal, blanc, rumani, trina, vestiTU, noise, RH

[vocal kelp]

The only unit I wouldn't want to replace, I don't know if you remember, but it's Bay, since I'm a stupid guy who likes the character too much lol

[undone gate]

alright holy sht thanks for the comprehensive answer you are a live saviour. Considering i am like rank 9 on my current level, do you think it would be enough to just half assed invest all these units to like 4/4/4 and put a lvl 5 SR soll with T9M gear on them? or do i need to fully invest in them if i want to improve compared to my current roster

[vocal kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-why-she's-the-goat-the-goat-she's-the-goat-she-he's-the-goat-gif-10589731209361127711

thats why hes rail sensei, and he the GOAT!! THE GOAT i TELL YOU!!

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh noir
• moran bay biscuit swha lib
• jackal rumani cindy vestiTU noah

Notes

• get moran treasured asap
• finish building up vestiTU
• can consider lappy treasure down the line, then build up rosanna and xmaiden

[undone gate]

i can see that yeah

[vocal kelp]

crap, my Moran its not build up, but ill start to work on her rn

[tropic summit]

most utilities are fine on 4/4/4 SR5 4OL
the more the CP ultimately, keep in mind if your team CP is too low enemy can just gap them with campaign teams, so find the right balance

[undone gate]

shes so worth it even in campaign i love her

[tropic summit]

ye you'll increase her CP naturally while you treasure her, she's fine even untreasured for the time being, but work on her meanwhile

[undone gate]

@tropic summit thank you i appreciate your help

[vocal kelp]

my stupid ass started with privaty instead of her

[tropic summit]

both moran and privT are worth building, in term of priority moranT is first just because you'll use her in a lot of content

[jagged mesa]

Guys, at 449 synchro I have achieved sr15 jackal

Can't wait for her to raise me to... The same PvP rank as always

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/late-9

[jagged mesa]

Wait until you see my r0 centi and trina

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry you seeing this

[vocal kelp]

dude I been playing this by 1 year and half and i still dont had centi

[jagged mesa]

Every time I try to work on PvP I get burned

It took me 510 blue kits to r15 rumani a couple weeks ago

[jagged mesa]

Same thing happens everytime I work on PvP units

[tropic summit]

[undone gate]

btw i noticed there are 2 THelms, what could I replace one of them with?

[tropic summit]

ye seems like there's a leftover copypasta, lemme fix

[vocal kelp]

btw rail sensei, I see youre a man of culture as well

being a fan of baby girl blanc

[jagged mesa]

Ew, blanc simps

[vocal kelp]

not simp level

I only simp a single nikke, her name its Anis

my BELOVED

[jagged mesa]

You didn't defend blanc honor, you fail

[tropic summit]

fix positioning and sub helmT in T2 with rumani

[vocal kelp]

my first max core unit and my absolute favorite nikke, I cant wait for half anni (copium) I had 2200 golden tickets ready to max core asap

jesus, Moran eated all my doll chests wtf

[undone gate]

perfect thank you ill try the new comp on reset

[tropic summit]

indeed

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nikke-doro

[undone gate]

pretty sure we will get a Blanc tressure at some point considering how much the community loves her

[vocal kelp]

what would be a good change for her treasure?

[jagged mesa]

🦶 👃

[vocal kelp]

no need of noir?

maybe a double treasure? lol

for blanc and noir

[undone gate]

nah they should doulbe tressure for sure and if u use both of them lose flexibility but they should be crazy strong then

atleast i would love to see that

[jagged mesa]

They not gonna do rouge dirty like that

Triple treasure it is

[tropic summit]

[jagged mesa]

Actually it would be nice to have a wind sg for sg team

Can't wait to have a minimum req of 4x treasure 1x limited pilgrim for sg team

[undone gate]

yeah it definitely looks that way in the long run

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

[vocal kelp]

damn I thought I had enough resources to max out Moran and Vesti, but I fell short.

at least moran its ready tho, just complete the treasure

but I cant wait for the improvemts on the anomaly interception rewards

[cedar sorrel]

R10

[grand plaza]

F, after 2 months later they finally beat me

Gotta save chests until anniv

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit maybe ill defeat rail one day

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kanna-kamui-miss-kobayashi-dragon-maid-1

[hollow lagoon]

ill defeat rail one day

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-the-house-hes-cheating-cheater-gif-8225031

[tropic summit]

zant too stronk

[shell hazel]

I think my best atm would be 18.5 ish

[lunar pawn]

I need to make teams still

[cobalt lotus]

https://streamable.com/1n886k I am the bottom deck, attack in order is Ein > Label(with skill) > Ada. Weird that Ein didn't get link removed (Ada kept link due to Label). Can someone explain why?

[undone blaze]

Is there any way I can beat this team with my bum units?

I believe I could beat the last one only because his team can't burst, with my Rapi I think?

[tropic summit]

this guy may know he's link expert@swift mango

[tropic summit]

hmm if you could manage to force misindom on T2 you'd stand a chance

post your box let's see if you've the tools

[undone blaze]

My units?

[gaunt bane]

Will this work? 🤔

Timing might be like this

[tropic summit]

remove vestiTU and use another unit that keeps you 2RL or 3RL and it will work, let them burst with liberalio as it's in your favour

[gaunt bane]

You mean going slower?

[tropic summit]

enemy team is on the weaker side regardless of which B3 bursts as long as you're on noah shield on 2RL if you let helmT burst, else you can burst with 3RL noah and you still deny their nuke

lib 2RL lands on 3RL B3, meaning 3RL noah will catch 2RL lib nuke

up to you which you wanna deal against, imo let them burst with lib and run a noah 3RL

[glad meteor]

Speed

[tropic summit]

keep in mind that to run noah against that team you need a noise taunt priority else noah will be stunned at 2RL B2 by enemy siren in p2

[gaunt bane]

Ill need to avoid getting both moran and noah stunned if I go for 3RL?

[tropic summit]

if you don't have that it may be better to force them to burst with helmT and let them hit invulnerable p1

[gaunt bane]

Oh, how do I force them burst with helmT? I dont have Siren

[glad meteor]

Scar trina vesti rosa helmt should be interesting there

[tropic summit]

[gaunt bane]

Noise isnt built either. Kinda hate dealing with indom timing

[tropic summit]

post your box whenever you asking for help if you lack pvp core units

your hand appears to be far more limited

[gaunt bane]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjk0NzgzNDI1MDUyOTc3MzU1OA%3D%3D
Here you go

Yea pretty much, Im still holding onto C2 so I dont have much motivation to invest more into pvp for now

[tropic summit]

ye let's nuke their link imo

you've nayuta helmt and vesti well invested and they've 2 wind codes in p1 and p2

this is gonna destroy their link at 2RL B2

[gaunt bane]

Which is?

[tropic summit]

run this team in shooting range and confirm helmT and vestiTU are linked

based on your box invest order it should be the case but shooting range will confirm it

[gaunt bane]

Interesting, let me check