pvp-arena

[brazen ledge]

they don't even know what that is
I've been MA for 1.5 years and got a grand total of : 4 acrylic stands, some stickers and a t shirt that is too large for me

[swift mango]

But you aren't even MA.

[lunar pawn]

if they were like 100 dollars/month worth of ingame currency, or a free scale figure + shipment + taxes monthly

then MAYBE

[lunar pawn]

good riddance

[brazen ledge]

honesly, even just free battle pass and i'd be happy

[spiral onyx]

That's more than some Mods get in many games lol

[swift mango]

[lunar pawn]

yea that's still 0 benefits to me cus my country has a yearly limit of imported goods + gotta pay 50% tax on everything

so no thank you

[spiral onyx]

Give me a Golden Doro statue and I'll be an MA

[brazen ledge]

oh yes that's what i'm saying

[tropic summit]

[lunar pawn]

give me an actual gold ingot and we can talk

[tropic summit]

realistically ingame resources like access to passes would be already good enough

[spiral onyx]

https://myfigurecollection.net/item/2782257

[swift mango]

I think I could use that large T-shirt

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/parks-and-rec-its-beautiful-ive-looked-at-this-for-five-hours-now-tom-haverford

[silent torrent]

100 cp off

[brazen ledge]

Rewards are really bad yes I’m not denying that

I’ve made 13 guides and helped countless people in questions channel

[tropic summit]

you only need 593k, you're in actually range

[swift mango]

just upgrade an equipment piece or change cube,

[brazen ledge]

But look, cool doscar

[silent torrent]

it says 593726 or smth for me

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

ye upgrade 1 unit and you're in range

doll
affection
OL
cube

[swift mango]

Idk if your guide ever helped me.

[silent torrent]

is this bad luck I assume? seeing as how SWHA has hp?

[brazen ledge]

you can't make advanced guides or it helps 3 people
you started before me, you know all of the general stuff

[tropic summit]

she got killed when your blanc cast B2, during the delay to be precise

were you running SWHA with tempering?

[lunar pawn]

I just don't read guides in this server, some are factually incorrect and others straight up give bad advice

[silent torrent]

nope

how does it work actually? the whole tempering

[tropic summit]

blame @swift mango for not telling you

[silent torrent]

wait sorry let me formulate

[swift mango]

Da heck you start after me and MA for 1.5 years?

[tropic summit]

damage reduction, you live longer

[silent torrent]

Jackal links the hp of the two units yeah? if she does what does tempering change? shouldnt the two units take the same dmg regardless?

[swift mango]

why tf you make him put all the link on p1-2-3, that's basically unlink them.

[brazen ledge]

i've been ma for 1 year 2 months or smth, basically the same

[tropic summit]

@silent torrent conditions for indoms:

• the 2 highest atk% units and jackal are linked
• your indom target has lowest HP in the link (SWHA)
• jackal and linked unit have higher HP than your indom target (SWHA)
• you need to reach B2 alive on blanc cast to get indommed as long as conditions above are met

[tropic summit]

i didn't build that team

[swift mango]

I have PLAYED for 2 year and half a month.

[silent torrent]

again ?

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

who gave you that team?

[lunar pawn]

technically they make anyone a MA, you literally just need to apply and they'll slap the role on you

there are exceptions, ofc, like mods hating you or you have multiple warnings/mutes already

[silent torrent]

no one lol doppel just told me to run what was my best team and I was just trying stuff

so its probably fully wrong lmao

[tropic summit]

wait no checks at all?

[tropic summit]

oh we can't blame it on @swift mango then, too bad

[lunar pawn]

they check if you have warnings and stuff, but other than that, nope, it's free real estate

[brazen ledge]

I have played for 1 year and 7 months ~

[tropic summit]

sounds like a recipe for disaster

[silent torrent]

yeah, only my fault, I just dont know what to do against this guy's team

[swift mango]

I got muted for NSFW

[lunar pawn]

we have "expert" MAs gaslighting newbies, so yes

[swift mango]

That's not actually

[tropic summit]

i thought you were following someone advise, that team is weak to slower nukers, 4RL cindy/lib with blanc debuff on moran will generally wipe

[tropic summit]

who's that MA

[silent torrent]

is there a world where going over the deficit and running something like nayuta trina against a team like this could work?

[tropic summit]

nah your stats are nuked beyond 90% deficit like that

[swift mango]

wait a minute, this game hate me, doesn't need wait for mod.

[silent torrent]

how do I build 4RL cindy? thats a team ive never tried before

[tropic summit]

blanc lib biscuit cindy noise/rapunzel
or
blanc cindy biscuit flex noise

[silent torrent]

ah damm, I thought that maybe if the team was as bad as what hes running in that team I could cheese it somehow

[tropic summit]

you can use the burst gen calc with your CS% included to ensure you're 4RL with lib

[silent torrent]

is there a single 4rl cindy that doesnt run biscuit ? im using biscuit noah on the other team that wins

[tropic summit]

keep in mind you might go in deficit with that team cuz it uses a lot of utilities

and they're generally less CP heavy than your used units there

[swift mango]

@gritty ridge go apply for MA, you are qualified.

[tropic summit]

just change strategy

[covert lintel]

I have multiple mute for saying lewd thing

[tropic summit]

go0n

[brazen ledge]

Why would you actually want to be MA ?

[lunar pawn]

doesn't matter, already reported them before but mods know less than MAs who know less than your average veteran player

[gaunt pulsar]

if t1 is invest difference in favor of attacker then yea it's probably down to t3 to decide the outcome

[tropic summit]

damn that sucks

[shell hazel]

no it's because you didn't say enough lewd things

[swift mango]

@gritty ridge mentioned many times he wanted to be MA.

[silent torrent]

i cant do strategies if I dont know what im doing

[brazen ledge]

I know, doesn’t change the question

[lunar pawn]

best team doesn't mean your highest cp team, Idk what you were trying lol

[swift mango]

ask him.

[gritty ridge]

No

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kazuma-sato-thumbs-up

[silent torrent]

I know it doesnt mean that but im barely withing the cp to be able to tackle this dude anyway so I have to rely on cp a bit I guess

[covert lintel]

You're qualified too
Apply it

[lunar pawn]

oh btw, my re:creators book arrived

[tropic summit]

ended up making the right decision anyway

[swift mango]

I don't think I made any guide.

[tropic summit]

can you actually see Blood being an MA? he'd get banned day 1

[brazen ledge]

As MA mods verify every single one of your messages, they decide if you rank up or rank down on criterias that we don’t even know anything about
If you don’t yap enough, gg you get demoted, if you sacrificed 2hrs daily to help random people on the internet you MAYBE get some free merch

Just help people with the role atp

[tropic summit]

i've got proof that Blood has potential to be MA though

[swift mango]

You could have gotten free T-shirt

[spiral onyx]

There's engagement requirements/quota you need to meet. Previously at least, not sure if that's still the case.b Main reason I didn't want the role

[lunar pawn]

MA promotion/demotion is up for whatever mod is looking at you, doesn't need to make sense

[swift mango]

I don't make guide, I put link to comments I deemed useful.

[tropic summit]

here you can have it
features your waifu at that

[lunar pawn]

mod can be 10x less active than you but he'll still call the shots

[lunar pawn]

I'd wear it

[tropic summit]

absolutely

[covert lintel]

And MA should be ppl who can make other win at 25% deficit

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-gif-17153900052629271738

[lunar pawn]

yesn't, they don't really disclose what's expected, so you can be super active, but a random mod can go like "you didn't answer X questions, so gg"

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[tropic summit]

that depends on the opponents being 🧱 , good luck winning 25% deficit against meta team on C7

[lunar pawn]

anyway, MA might only be "exciting" if you live in the US and don't need to worry about customs

[covert lintel]

That's what i'm struggling now

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/darling-in-the-franxx-zero-two-11

[swift mango]

Well, there is no Arena MA.

[tropic summit]

there's Echo

[swift mango]

25% deficit in Campaign is easy mode now.

[brazen ledge]

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

slap vestiTU/SWHA/RRH and auto?

[covert lintel]

Echo been slacking
I don't see him cooking anymore

[lunar pawn]

make a pin for everyone to contact echo for their rookie SPA CA teams, let's see how long he lasts

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

he has a job
unlike you neet

[swift mango]

That's actually rail.

[tropic summit]

gonna implode

[lunar pawn]

MA is already a job you don't need more

[tropic summit]

that's your sister

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

Wasn't MA get rewarded sometime

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

the reward aint worth it

helpin' out when you feel like and when you want to is actually more rewarding

[swift mango]

You already doing it so mind as well apply for reward.

[tropic summit]

nah it limits my freedom

there would be rules that you'd need to adhere to

[swift mango]

Idk, @umbral crown is pretty free.

[tropic summit]

he's built different

[swift mango]

you will need to rank up to avoid poop color though.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/out-of-toilet-paper-horror-story

[covert lintel]

Yes, he's so free than you

[rich quail]

yeet the neet

[swift mango]

shouldnt be a problem with your among of comment.

[tropic summit]

meh i'm casual

[rich quail]

f2p to the

[lunar pawn]

rookie gets no rewards, only the restrictions

[tropic summit]

@swift mango drsussy more qualified

[lunar pawn]

makes you wonder why even make the role

[spiral onyx]

If mods review every one of my messages they'd probably want to mute me every few days

[tropic summit]

every few minutes

[brazen ledge]

Just by looking at the last MA roles adjustment, you can clearly see that many people went back to rookie. Im guessing that they did that to save money

[tropic summit]

probably a way to filter out the rabble from the potential

[swift mango]

actually, what's that? I only know this.

[brazen ledge]

I know, would be deserved

[lunar pawn]

trust me, mods don't review all of your messages unless they don't like you to begin with

[tropic summit]

oh hey i beat you here

weaker yapping @swift mango

[lunar pawn]

already reported some MA and the mod who took the ticket didn't take 1 minute to go over the messages

[spiral onyx]

In case a mod is reviewing my message log right now:
||deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts deez nuts ||

[swift mango]

You always beat me.

[tropic summit]

or maybe they're friends

[brazen ledge]

Reporting MAs for helping people is really sad bro

[tropic summit]

no you're better than me, me pleb

[lunar pawn]

helping people make terrible choices and gaslighting them, yes, really sad

[tropic summit]

what a chad 🥜

[brazen ledge]

Who is doing that ?

I guess you report dp every few days too

[lunar pawn]

doesn't matter, mods don't care enough to do anything about it

who

[swift mango]

Now one beat this king though, not even close. 🫅

[brazen ledge]

Just tell who did you report

[tropic summit]

he's beast mode

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

I was talking abt deepink (dp)

[lunar pawn]

who else but tech

[brazen ledge]

Idk if that is true

I think he blocked me a long time ago, I don’t even know why

[lunar pawn]

there are some other MAs who make some questionable guides and give sketchy opinions now and then but they're trying their best so I don't report them

[swift mango]

But Rail is more busy.

[supple plover]

@ancient sun After 4600 gems defense was broken. Setting up new teams

[tropic summit]

as long as they give you a reason for that opinion and they can change opinion if you point it out, i think that's still a decent person at least

some start from newb and become actually helpful

gotta give them the tools and the time to grow although

[swift mango]

deepink is no MA

[lunar pawn]

ofc, but some others just give biased opinions and get mad at you when you correct them

[brazen ledge]

So he can mislead new players ? That makes no sense

[tropic summit]

yeah that's a problemo

[lunar pawn]

yea, you gotta have the MA license for that

[swift mango]

The best yapper can't be that bad.

[tropic summit]

[brazen ledge]

He purposefully give misinformation

[lunar pawn]

forgot this was a thing, gotta PO later

[tropic summit]

you gotta catch dp in the right mood swing

[tropic summit]

if you get him in the right moment he's chill

although he has absolutely no filter, which is good sometimes

[brazen ledge]

I still don’t have 3 pilgrims on my account… hard time to be playing

[swift mango]

Am I chill?

[tropic summit]

yeah, you just tick people off in your own way but chill

[ancient sun]

bro, imagine you can spend these gems on wipe outs and eventually get more sync and maybe they would get better odds long term...

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[brazen ledge]

Personally, I don’t think I’m chill but I’m effective
Best MA is savante now imo

[gritty ridge]

I like the mooey

And the kos

[tropic summit]

good lads both of them

[swift mango]

Now go apply and make MA great again!

[tropic summit]

you first

[gritty ridge]

Im not reapplying for MA, I dont even help people often anymore

[placid bloom]

when we gonna get Sopa v2

[brazen ledge]

Make academy great again ?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-2024-trump-dancing-maga-trump-dance-gif-4661939386382039639

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

I have more important things to do than help people on here all day

I give my input if I feel its needed but thats abt it

[tropic summit]

you already train and help people IRL for money at least

which means you actually get paid

[gritty ridge]

Exactly

Besides, my pvp expertise now wont help the average player

[tropic summit]

it would be a different story either way if the rewards were meaningful

you'd attract more ppl and more ppl also means more chances of someone who will actually put effort

[brazen ledge]

We tried to get no slow mode for years, we never got it

[swift mango]

help them in question

[gritty ridge]

Never

[arctic jewel]

Just want to say that you guys helping means a lot to me, thank you!

[brazen ledge]

The fact that coop channel is not 5 fkin threads anymore is because of me though

[placid bloom]

when you gonna write your guide

[gritty ridge]

I already ditched it

Way back, I told echo

[tropic summit]

you were making a guide?

we were close to greatness

[gritty ridge]

I was working on a pvp skill guide

[brazen ledge]

Write guides on blabla and get actual stuff for it

[shell hazel]

a bible even

[tropic summit]

oh even better

[shell hazel]

pvp bible - written by god lord bigboi

[placid bloom]

write a guide on how to become motivated in Nikke at endgame

[tropic summit]

the deficit whale killer. 2026

[gritty ridge]

I dont even know how

[tropic summit]

"how i won 36% deficit" by BigBoiey

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

the guide:

[tropic summit]

difficulty level: master

[swift mango]

The bible:

[lunar pawn]

pvp and stat penalty, a visual guide, by doppel

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel gonna order a pizza

[shell hazel]

not steal one?

[placid bloom]

seem you can be next guide writer

[tropic summit]

[brazen ledge]

How to be motivated as an endgame player : raid + union stuff

[shell hazel]

just sneak in

[tropic summit]

they kinda know me

[swift mango]

Nah, I'm the priest of Hanako Nana Bible.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-lockpicking-gaming-gif-15095752

but they don't know lockpick-chan

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/khajit-elder-scrolls

[shell hazel]

pvp guide by me: || get out the credit card and you win ||

[tropic summit]

are you ready to become dating sim main

[shell hazel]

I am indeed

[placid bloom]

we will all become harem protag

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna be loyal to privaty
||for the length of the event ||

[swift mango]

not me.

[brazen ledge]

Then pvp

[arctic jewel]

good luck with the special lesson

[brazen ledge]

Have a 2nd account

[tropic summit]

i can handle a few heels

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/yuni-nikke-goddess-of-victory-booty-gif-10105351981208543361

[arctic jewel]

you will have a nice view though

[brazen ledge]

Idk why whales in midnight keep spending so much
Those 1k sync people bro…

No fun atp

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-nikke-the-goddess-of-victory-goddess-of-victory-doro-ade-gif-16819603935990438349

[swift mango]

here is how you motivate players

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-cute-awe-loli-dressupdarling

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cross-ange-anime-girl

[tropic summit]

[lusty gull]

it looks good @onyx scaffold

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

[onyx scaffold]

it does

just realized that the scarlet team i used was not 2RL

[lusty gull]

don't matter, that team should lose against all remaining lol

i quickly look and i think you have the highest chance to win

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[mint kite]

It won't be enough

[shell hazel]

then 2 vigor cubes

[blissful willow]

@tropic summit where do you think I can brush up on the modern champions arena meta

[tropic summit]

put vigor on then run in shooting range, or you already tested?

[tropic summit]

hmm @swift mango and @unique mountain have been collecting a good chunk of champion setups, you can check them here

i'd say try and use the archetypes that have been consistently making it to champ, should increase the odds of winning, assuming you put the invest

[blissful willow]

If I'm allowed to

I'd be glad for some help, I wanna improve and maybe write a short guide again

[tropic summit]

CA is all about win ratio and matrixes

as long as you cross that data, you can probably make higher win ratio chance teams

[sharp vine]

[blissful willow]

From my understanding from taking glances

• SG Rosanna team is still hypermeta
• True Damage spam works? But only if it is ultra mega super duper invested into. They can either be used as an SG like team, or not at all
• Very fast nukes or Very slow nukes are good

[tropic summit]

ye i think you're more than plenty allowed to, they don't have any restriction as far as i know

[tropic summit]

absolute team
SG team
slow cindy

are consistently keeping the top ranks atm

following afterward is moran/noah variants and indom variants

[blissful willow]

Indom is compulsory, right

[lunar pawn]

absolute must be hella invested, else I don't think it's efficient

[tropic summit]

some moran/bay/biscuit noise/bay/biscuit can also work as they counter a good chunk of those

[tropic summit]

ye this goes actually for most CA teams tbh

[blissful willow]

Could be said for any team

[tropic summit]

invest needs to be on point or those archetypes are no longer as consistent

[blissful willow]

Is the Nero thing still a thing?

[lunar pawn]

yesn't, absolute specifically has quite a few counters

[tropic summit]

there have been a few cases of winning champs running nero/moran, but it has a good amount of counters nowdays, so less win ratio

[blissful willow]

Everything is beatable

That's the foundation of pvp

[lunar pawn]

you might as well say all teams are meta then

[tropic summit]

CA is not as much about meta, but a team that can win multiple matchups, which directly increases your odds of winning

it could be a dumb ass team, but if it counters 2 or more archetypes, it may aswell get you to finals

[blissful willow]

Yeah, I mean, that's the point isn't it

Meta teams are teams that work in PvP

Work with high effect, give you enough chances of winning that you use them

For example, the SG team is probably the easiest team to win against in normal play (spa, rookie)

But in champs, the rng factor has you using it

[tropic summit]

most people were making fun of cindy 4RL-5RL with cindy in p1, until you find out it counters a good chunk of common CA teams

[lunar pawn]

Meta teams are teams that work in PvP

[blissful willow]

Yeah I cannot believe it works still, it annoys the heck of out me

[blissful willow]

It's not a lie
I didn't misspeak I think

Any team can be valid for your roster as long as it has structure and purpose

[blissful willow]

Is there anything super new I should know about? I'm sort-of clueless about Liberalio and SWHA

I assumed they were only burst gen but I heard lib is often main b3 as well?

[tropic summit]

not necessarely super new, but liberalio behind moran noah has been used more consistently to both block SGs but also deal with slow cindy, as she will 1hitko and bypasses biscuit s2 usage

absolute is also kinda getting popular from niche

then you've the usual indom vestiTU keeping her spot

SG team is still used because it can punish a lot of teams lacking soline/biscuit/jackal/moran

i guess the newest addition is soline archetypes

rapunzel + soline synergy allowing consistent stunning is wild

[lunar pawn]

I feel blanc swha cindy is more popular than tvesti indom these days

[tropic summit]

then you combine rapunzel + soline with scarlet and you get an improved scar-soda team

as you get sustain added with stun pressure and pre 2RL wipe resistant

while retaining scarlet main goal: kill on 2RL B3

[blissful willow]

I hate that Soline is usable

Did you guys see the new prydwen TL? (Thanks @fathom rock, you will be missed dearly)

I wanted your and other guyses take on it

[tropic summit]

i actually helped retro personally to come up with it

it was a few weeks back

we got some inputs from a good chunk of people too to come up with it

i think the current pvp tierlist is in a good spot atm, especially the SSS, SS, S and A

[blissful willow]

Yeah I'm not too happy with C tier and below but, I guess who cares?

[tropic summit]

kinda need to fix noir and move her among the other clip SG, i think retro forgot to fix that, rest is spot on

[blissful willow]

I was shocked about some placements but they seem to make more and more sense as you dive deeper

[blissful willow]

Should be fixed iirc

Or will be fixed soon™

[tropic summit]

oh ye it is, thank you

[lunar pawn]

centi treasure made the tier list?

[tropic summit]

C tier anyway will be mostly skipped by anyone, what matter is from SSS to A imo, cuz that's where ppl will focus on, rightfully so

[tropic summit]

you'll be surprised but she's actually useful to speed up purposedly enemy teams, especially against slow cindy

unfortunately that's a dual edge sword you don't really wanna have tho, so it's a bit cope

[lunar pawn]

that's called a niche use, so it wouldn't be fair to put her in S

[blissful willow]

Yeah, a personal but unique choice to demote her from normal version

I understand she can be useful but the rng required to make her work on champs is insanely insanely low in my opinion

[blissful willow]

Let's not forget she's a clipRL

[tropic summit]

ye tbh it was hard to come up with a "global" tierlist over a defense, attack or CA tierlist, but we had to settle in between

[lunar pawn]

but tbh I don't take any tier list seriously after they add a rank after S

[lunar pawn]

with a huge drawback that can only be used in niche situations

[blissful willow]

If it feels good, you're doing it right

The words behind how the structure of the tier list is doesn't matter at the end of the day if what you see is correct

[blissful willow]

It's not huge enough

The ability to generate that much burst gen is valued much higher than her caveat

[tropic summit]

there's some nitpicking that could be done but it would get so much into situational that it would make it just more chaotic

i think most units right now belong to the right tier or slightly above/below, but not too far from there if anything

[lunar pawn]

again, depends on what you're running

[tropic summit]

situationally some could be from S to SS (e.g. Ada) while some could be better/worse depending on side

[lunar pawn]

so niche

[shell hazel]

more TL discussion

[blissful willow]

In general though

ClipRL is goated imho

[tropic summit]

it's actually done don't worry

until SU decides to throw more units like SWHA

[shell hazel]

or is it?

[lunar pawn]

3.5 about to surprise us

[blissful willow]

I would definitely like to know them tbh, anytime you're free

I'm so out of the circle that nitpicking will help me learn what these units do today

[silent torrent]

isnt putting blanc p5 in defense indom just asking to get siren stunned? what is the point behind doing so?

[blissful willow]

Siren hits p1

[silent torrent]

(I saw a dude in my bracket doing so, no idea if it actually has any logic)

[silent torrent]

ah well p1 then srry, got them mixed up

[tropic summit]

as you stated blanc in p1, especially on defense team, is just asking to get stunned

it's a mistake, no more than that

[silent torrent]

okay so that guy is just trolling then, I see thanks

[lunar pawn]

or doesn't know any better

[silent torrent]

hes the n1 ranked guy in my bracket too, is my bracket full of bozos

[tropic summit]

don't think he's trolling but more a matter of being out of date, we used to run blanc p1 with biscuit, until siren happened...

[lunar pawn]

at high enough cp you don't really need to worry about your team setup

[silent torrent]

I cant beat N4 and N4 is like 40 syncros higher than N1 and im 10 lower syncro than N1 and I beat him

cursed bracket I guess

[shell hazel]

some people just don't care to fight for it

and would rather sit at 3-4 and not fight anyone lol

[silent torrent]

this dude does though, I'd know he has done a 30 minute back and forth with me lol he really cares

maybe he just forgot to change his defense teams?

[gaunt pulsar]

just brain short-circuit, thinking about countering one thing > forgets about how it can be countered

[silent torrent]

ah yeah, it could be that too I guess

[tropic summit]

you come at the right time cuz keripo is making an overall vid that will also include CA details and teams

#pvp-arena message

i think it will be covering a lot of good info, should be worth the time watching it

[silent torrent]

it sucks because im so close to beat N4 and if I do I can be N1 cuz I can beat N1 but instead im perpetually stuck in N5

[blissful willow]

Nice nice

[shell hazel]

just beat 2 or 3 then

if you can't beat 2 or 3 then you won't hold 1 anyway

@gritty ridge

[silent torrent]

nono 2 and 3 are whales that dont care that are 50 syncro higher than everyone else

I can hold 1 for free if I get it since they dont care

number 1 and 4 really care though so it'd be about fighting them I guess

[tropic summit]

how's your label and bay?

nvm i see both unbuilt

[tidal lichen]

looks untripleable

noahless..

[tropic summit]

the helping factor their nayuta is 3RL

meaning he can indom against it

[swift mango]

@unique mountain

Found your lost brother

[tropic summit]

as for scarlet i'm thinking we could face tank it with HP stacking

or actually

could just kill their link

his vesti is 5% and well built might aswell

[tidal lichen]

helm to jackal, blanc to lib

[tropic summit]

show CP with both teams from kricoun and mine then let's use whichever isn't in deficit

[tropic summit]

oh this one is ballsy against scarlet

you deny a good chunk of dmg on helmt via invulnerable jackal at least

[tidal lichen]

with 14cs on enemy vesti

too bad we cant ada vesti the second team

[tropic summit]

ye would be an interesting watch

[tidal lichen]

no ammo on vesti

[tropic summit]

48% ammo

[fickle furnace]

does vesti have a charge speed breakpoint

[tropic summit]

gonna need to check links in T1 but CP is fine

[tidal lichen]

are you trying to kill the link before burst

[tropic summit]

yep

i expect vestiTU + nayuta on RH B1 will lethal whole link

[tidal lichen]

[tropic summit]

this is kricoun i believe

[tidal lichen]

kinda

you can check on nikke.top

[swift mango]

Just let them burst with scarlet then Noah+Noise+Biscuit wall it. Or Moran+Biscuit wall it.

[tropic summit]

except he has no noah

both not in deficit, the 265k is barely making it (need 263k)

[tidal lichen]

go with rails

oh first one is in range?

[tropic summit]

ye of 2k-ish

[tidal lichen]

[tropic summit]

CP needed on the other is 263.6136

check links then, you want SWHA or lib indommed

don't get ada indommed or you're stuck on nayuta for 9s

[lunar pawn]

I need more opinions on this matchup, bottom is attacker

thinking 50/50 overall but Idk if I'm missing anything

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge change lib for drakeT or anchorIM so you know for sure it's lib and SWHA linked, then give lib vigor in case

burst with the unit on lower HP, in the case above SWHA

e.g. with anchorIM as flex and lib on vigor

@swift mango why are the japanese like this

[tidal lichen]

😭

[lusty gull]

agreed but it's most likely about r1, def should win, 4 sg

[lunar pawn]

yea t1 attk win, t2 defender win, t3 rng, t4 and t5 are the same basically

at least that's my take

[swift mango]

Some guys in Ehe***I said it best.

1. Self insert to the one stealing.
2. It's upgrade over ra#e

[tropic summit]

oh wow that actually makes sense

[tidal lichen]

1 depends on rosanna

she will burst faster than moran

[lusty gull]

r3, noise b1 should win

[lunar pawn]

doesn't matter if they can't FB without poli

[tidal lichen]

poli should survive no?

she has a giant shield at start

[lunar pawn]

actually no doll on that poli

[tropic summit]

it's fine both teams are fairly standard takes, i know what happened, cheers

if you won against scarlet means the 2RL B2 nuke worked

[lunar pawn]

this is the matchup

[tidal lichen]

treasureless poli on ca

[lusty gull]

def sg should win, 4 sg

[tidal lichen]

attacker doesnt fb either tho if lib dies

[tropic summit]

enjoy

[lusty gull]

but yeah it's something like 50/50 @lunar pawn , it's about investment

[willow wigeon]

Hey gamers, I've dropped the game for like half a year and now I feel like my pvp teams are outdated and in need of an update. Could someone recommend me some strong pvp teams, I got close to all nikkes unlocked, but the pictures shows my best invested units. Need 3 teams

[swift mango]

There is also the point they made about ugly bastard that often linked with NT4. "Cute girl ravaged by uggo give better stimulation than just vanilla with handsome guy." It's acquired taste, like coffee.

[lunar pawn]

I think poli dies, RH might survive, rosanna might kill 2 attackers (unsure since doesn't seem that much invested), but attacker can still FB

cheering for the defender in the hope he loses

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• moran noah biscuit SWHA drakeT
• jackal scarlet vestiTU blanc lib
• nayuta trina helmt rh laplaceT

[swift mango]

The result of this match up depend heavily on Libby CS that could make it 2rl or not. And how tanky RH is.

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

[tidal lichen]

respect.

[willow wigeon]

Yooo thx a bunch, but why does Trina go without Scarlet?

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

remind me how CS% works on libby kit in arena

[swift mango]

The "acquired taste" bit because I don't remember exactly what they said but it's something similar.

[lunar pawn]

yea the CS line was a generous addition by me, Idk his actual speed

[tropic summit]

that team is running a bait, it's a triple threat with pseudo indom scarlet, if they run a certain team they'll get vestiTU indommed instead

[swift mango]

If enemy is Rapture. m

Libby CS matter a lot in Arena above 18%

[tropic summit]

which means she's locked into this?

[willow wigeon]

Damn I would never thought of something like that, thx a bunch.

[swift mango]

It improve 2rl burst gen

[swift mango]

Immunity to skill that increase CS, not OL line.

Just put her into Nikke.top and you see

[tropic summit]

so OL and cube apply oke gotcha

[gritty ridge]

Huh

[tropic summit]

now makes sense

[gritty ridge]

What are you talking abt rail

[lunar pawn]

about you

[tropic summit]

it was for the other big boi

[swift mango]

About your long lost brother

[tropic summit]

@swift mango so this is where your gems go

[shell hazel]

are the changes to AI rewards coming with the update? should I wait to use my tries?

[lunar pawn]

nah

[tropic summit]

did it for you

[mint kite]

Already tested. Even if I drop Ein's cube completely, her being at C7 beats out RH with Vigor

[shell hazel]

thanks Rail-ai

[tropic summit]

dayum suffering from success, well you don't actually need RH buffing, put another flex that is higher HP than her

ada/privT

[keen vapor]

Ok I skip

[tropic summit]

else liberalio/laplaceT/emilia

[mint kite]

Lol

[tropic summit]

the ideal would be to keep your team 3RL either way

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

so avoid actual batteries unless you got noone else

[tropic summit]

he thanked me not you who actually provided the answer

[swift mango]

You could check pervious match video to know.

[shell hazel]

you could see what I was going for lol

[lunar pawn]

he's a defender there so no clue

[keen vapor]

Rail tag

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Harder but you could still try to gauge with special effect, ammo and when Moran Ammo become infinity.

[tropic summit]

the answer is simple

[lunar pawn]

let me clip it

[gritty ridge]

I was confused why you were telling me to use manchor lmao

[shell hazel]

no, you use bready

[tropic summit]

TAV fighting TAV, who's the real protagonist

[shell hazel]

it seems I am too powerful

[tropic summit]

died even before 4 of your units dealt damage

[shell hazel]

moran actually killed them all

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gunslinger-six-shooter-gun-flip-flip-gun-into-holster-gif-12524647873518510513

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/children-of-the-sea-kaijuu-no-kodomo-1

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon pure evil, you were right

[lunar pawn]

whoops

[shell hazel]

this still applies 😄 #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

you murdered him

[lunar pawn]

defender looks like 2.5rl? looks faster to me but I could be tripping

[lunar pawn]

to know how this goes

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel whenever someone fights against you this starts playing at that frame https://youtu.be/SxlW79tDhCA?list=RD-ONFzB_acTM&t=178

[warm monolith]

How good is 501 buff? I cant beat the behemoth

[shell hazel]

better than the 481 buff

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/getout-28

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-in-elcome-enter-come-inside-come-gif-15903675

[gritty ridge]

How good is the 381 buff

[lunar pawn]

worse than 401 buff

[gritty ridge]

Thx

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-11278654791925482718

[warm monolith]

Any team recommendations btw? Im currently running crown/cindy/ein/morant/naga against it

[shell hazel]

naga?!

[warm monolith]

Ye, heal

[warm monolith]

Need em

[gritty ridge]

Yeah uh, stop that

Use t.helm

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/skellyskelly-komaru

[warm monolith]

Thelm no heal=no burst of her

[shell hazel]

you need helm for the lightning anyway

[gritty ridge]

Crown cindy siren t.helm mmast

[tropic summit]

you need helmt

[lunar pawn]

and I need damage

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnnJv3Zi5oQ

[tropic summit]

1280...

[shell hazel]

warudo has a cleaner version

[gritty ridge]

Can also go crown cindy rrh t.helm mmast

[warm monolith]

Then ill need to use siren instead of moran to time the bursts

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith if your s.anis is invested she also can work i cleared with s.anis

[gritty ridge]

Why would you need siren to time bursts

[warm monolith]

In her first transformation i cant take down the first boulder cuz ill wont be in burst

I cant time it

[gritty ridge]

Just save the 2nd burst from the intro

Or burst asap with helm gen

[warm monolith]

Smart

[gritty ridge]

Both work

[warm monolith]

Oke

[tropic summit]

upon entering manual helmT and burst right away, upon switching to 2nd form manual helmT and build your burst asap

[gritty ridge]

Helm gen is actually pretty damn good

When you manual

[shell hazel]

you could also try SW as her burst gen is good if your cp is high enough

crown rapi cindy helmt SW

[warm monolith]

Theres around 400 mil diff btw i hope its not a problem

[tropic summit]

check clears at your synchro from f2ps

[warm monolith]

Or was it 500 mil idr

[tropic summit]

or similar core clears

[shell hazel]

what is your cp on the fight?

[tropic summit]

from clear data you can check those

[warm monolith]

Around 1.1 mil iirc

Wrong reply

[shell hazel]

I dunno wtf they removed li pass from the events tab again

[shell hazel]

1.15M to start to get comfortable

[versed mesa]

My 1280F Behemoth clear, barely managed to kill it at last second with Cindy still alive

[tropic summit]

good ol' s.anis clear

[shell hazel]

my crown survived alone on mine 😄

[warm monolith]

I dont have that i guess ill just wait a bit till 501 buff

[shell hazel]

I saw your message Rail and || I agree ||

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko

[warm monolith]

Same but mine survived on normal mode, barely

But ill need to run ein probbly cuz i accidently make her actually decent

[versed mesa]

Stuck on Only One at 1310F now

[warm monolith]

Not like any of my nikkes

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel gonna send you a clue to Last Rite's wardrobe

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/last-rite-last-rite-arknights-endfield-gif-4614804159591639324

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

I managed to get Crown so early, but just can't get extra cores to bump her stats and CP up

[shell hazel]

🐳

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998080972920729731/1436547755639308298/pimdabmeup.gif

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

We ain't smiling friends?

[shell hazel]

I believe I visited your ship earlier

[warm monolith]

Clay skin is good cuz it means there will be potentially Bay fan art too

I need more Bay fan arts

[tropic summit]

that you did good sir

[gritty ridge]

Im glad they made priv skin easy to skip

[warm monolith]

Im too poor to buy it personally

[lunar pawn]

I'm glad they made this whole patch easy to skip

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mai-sakurajima-rascal-does-not-dream-of-bunny-girl-senpai-15

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-tip-gif-11048773

[shell hazel]

20 * $60 = net worth $1200 😄

[tropic summit]

hold @gritty ridge still @shell hazel , i'm gonna grab the whip

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime86

[shell hazel]

I don't think he deserves having Priv sitting on him, we'll rake him over the coals

[warm monolith]

My biggest fear is Bay gacha skin lol, tho i bet theyd make it peak

Her current skin is kinda bad

[shell hazel]

buy crypto 10 x your money
-# this is not financial advice

[tropic summit]

money well spent if it returns as happiness

you're a grown adult that can spoil yourself

while i don't support spending money on this obvious scam game, it's your money and if it makes you happy, it's good

[shell hazel]

buy the damn priv skin I am lol

[warm monolith]

I spent more on gfl2 and zzz then nikke

[tropic summit]

feet simp

who's your favourite feets

[warm monolith]

How lol

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

The bunny?

[warm monolith]

I actually dont like it even a bit

[warm monolith]

Ye

[gritty ridge]

Crazy

Her bunny skin is great

[warm monolith]

The zipper is ruining it, take it away and its perfect

[warm monolith]

Whos yours

[gritty ridge]

Anyways, if they removed the glasses from priv skin I might buy it

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/harry-potter-alan-rickman-6RIEW15CCWRvq

[warm monolith]

A friend of mine is gonna buy solely because of the glasses actually

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Guess his favorite nikke

[gritty ridge]

It makes her drop from a 8/10 to a 6/10

[tropic summit]

didn't play it enough to have a favourite

but klukai was making my knees a bit weak

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-harry-potter-whatever-gif-12969628769964418681

[warm monolith]

theres only one correct choice

[tropic summit]

[spiral onyx]

Pro tip: the inner toilet paper roll can be flattened out to become a crude double sided wipe in emergencies

[tropic summit]

you don't speak from experience do you

[warm monolith]

Also the helen skin but itll come in like 1-2 months...

[warm monolith]

You should have, they gave out a free skin coupon

[tropic summit]

free... skin... coupon?!

what sorcery is this

[warm monolith]

Ye, it last for another 300 days or som

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Too bad for you i guess

You can buy like 80% of the skins w it

For completely free

[tropic summit]

~~unfortunately i don't think a free skin gonna save the burnout i got from that piss poor gamemode anyway ~~

[warm monolith]

Wdym the gameplay was peak

Only the endgame content is ahh

[tropic summit]

is this modded or real ingame

[versed mesa]

Needs more DLSS5

[warm monolith]

Uh

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Idk im not a klukai fan

[tropic summit]

time to become one

[undone blaze]

Is this fine or risky? Noah has 900k hp and Centi 953k, I could put Cindy in P2 but then the enemy gets more burst..

[glad meteor]

[warm monolith]

Nah, instead im making you a helen fan w just one gif

[glad meteor]

3 wind units

[tropic summit]

oh...? go ahead

[glad meteor]

Noah p1 unprotected

[lunar pawn]

either dies or gets stunned

[tropic summit]

just like your virginity if you're locked in a room with isabel alone

[glad meteor]

[undone blaze]

It's all I have 🥲

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

I bought Noah dupes to Max core her with silver tickets, top tier carry in PvP

[tropic summit]

man those are 2 big assets

[warm monolith]

Excuse my ahh internet, even this took a while

[tropic summit]

they almost don't fit in the gif

[warm monolith]

And guess what, im getting that skin for completely free

[versed mesa]

Booba okay, butts better though

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-happy-jumping-gif-26555219

[tropic summit]

whenever that comes up i always remember this mind-opening conversation

[warm monolith]

I dont have the doro my man gif but consider i send it

[versed mesa]

That man is my personal Jesus

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko

[warm monolith]

She has em both

[swift zephyr]

My 87 day streak is broken. I'm so sad, I don't want to have to pay attention to the arena again!

[gritty ridge]

Noah is gonna die

[tropic summit]

change def and make them tilt again

[gritty ridge]

Is this the other side of my antics

[tropic summit]

no the other side just logs in, looks at their rank and goes like "god, this guy again. Auto. Done, cya"

[shell hazel]

lmao so true

[gritty ridge]

Surely theyre at least kinda confused how I do it

[tropic summit]

"he's probably hacking, silly tryhard on this stupid gacha game"

9 chances on 10 they reported you at least once on assumption of hacking

[gritty ridge]

Is that where i think it is

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Accurate positioning

[tropic summit]

look on the bottom corners, it is.

[gaunt pulsar]

"mod"

[gritty ridge]

Mods

Get in here

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[hollow lagoon]

[lunar pawn]

and I'm reminded of this

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/classic-back-to-the-future

[versed mesa]

I made an interaction system in Godot over the past few weeks. Next step, add a 3D waifu into a scene and add "interactions"

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry you steal my kraken rock~

https://tenor.com/view/hamsters-wheel-mouse-pc-gif-24548286

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dexter-42

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

One of my sub leader makes unspeakable things in HS2

[upper grove]

ass easy choice

[umbral belfry]

as God planned

[hollow lagoon]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HCZGIcBaMAA6Dr2.gif

[tropic summit]

fascinating.

[tropic summit]

zant cookig

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-39

[rich quail]

cookig with zant

[rich quail]

I think I should switch indom SWHA for indom Vesti next CA

[swift mango]

You think?

[tropic summit]

no booly

[swift mango]

Yes booly

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Well, it's harder to put Vesti into 2rl team without jackal than SW. That's why people often Indom Vesti.

We have 2.5rl Blanc biscuit SW but that lose to lots of things including a random Siren

[tropic summit]

the only reason they lose it's cuz they aint trusting the process

[swift mango]

Maybe viable in a Meta centric and full of whale environment like Jpn server but not English server where people using everything randomly

[swift mango]

I mean jpn server where every whale playing meta and non whale just got research gap anyway so everyone ending up fighting mirror. So no worry of a wild Siren ruing your day.

[tropic summit]

ye you got way bigger problems to worry about

[swift mango]

And it's good night

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

trust the process

this time team copy good, got top 8

[rich quail]

I still learning a lot

Please forgive

no booli

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[umbral crown]

Where me

[midnight marsh]

[umbral crown]

[midnight marsh]

From 1 to D2 everyday

14710D2 lol

[umbral crown]

Bracket pretty competitive

[lunar pawn]

tetra mold w

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-find-you-i-will-kill-you-taken-gif-5513044

[last kindle]

How can I set up a more difficult formation for Rookie to attack in a 1v1 situation? Thanks!

edit need a new DEF team

[lunar pawn]

[shell hazel]

gz though a fine dupe to have

[lunar pawn]

[lunar pawn]

Noah can be siren stunned

[last kindle]

Because our defense has been consistently getting countered, we'd like to switch to a new defensive formation. Thank you everyone.

[shell hazel]

we?

[last kindle]

I

[shell hazel]

multiple people working as one 😮

[last kindle]

Sorry I am not English user

[shell hazel]

you can't really defend if your cp is similar to opponent cp

[last kindle]

Only one person can battle with me

The other isnt

[umbral crown]

Nope

They bust before siren stun

[last kindle]

And he was against me

[shell hazel]

you can try moran noah helmt vesti sw

biscuit not really adding a whole lot here

[last kindle]

🫨

[umbral crown]

[last kindle]

Who is helmt and sw

[shell hazel]

or maybe an indom vesti/sw variant, but it's counterable

[umbral crown]

Helm with favorite item amd sw is Snow White Heavy Arms

[lunar pawn]

stun will still land

[umbral crown]

Yeah but not before burst

[tidal lichen]

swap biscuit with trina and invest in helm charge speed

[lunar pawn]

yea moran > biscuit will be the order, so opp can blanc tvesti siren shenanigans

[last kindle]

So…this one will be improved?

[lunar pawn]

no jackal?

you could just run a blanc jackal variant

[last kindle]

I have jackl ! Is it P5?

Or P1?

[lunar pawn]

jumps to 2rl if you have tvesti CS lines, or depending on enemy feed

[last kindle]

Thx for you , I will try this one

[lunar pawn]

could work too but review positioning depending on the 2 highest atk

or if your blanc is chunky enough she could be in p3 and the unlinked DPS goes in p4

[last kindle]

This is 2rl or 2.5?

[lunar pawn]

but all teams have a counter so don't expect much if your opps know what they're doing

[last kindle]

Yeah

[lunar pawn]

that's natural 2rl

[last kindle]

👌🏻

This guy’s level is 489, I’m 483, so CP is not a problem

And my nikke’s core better than him

[lunar pawn]

nayuta bomber could be fun too

[last kindle]

But he always manages to solve it.

I’m not old player, not have EMT

[lunar pawn]

yea at same cp don't expect to defend

[lunar pawn]

replace for tlaplace

[last kindle]

I can only do my best. Thank you for your analysis.

[lunar pawn]

if you're losing constantly you should rotate teams, keeps attackers confused sometimes

[last kindle]

Okay, thx 🙏

[humble tiger]

Yeah I think this wins.

[humble tiger]

Sniping last minute.

[fallow nebula]

Moran should be 10/10/10 focus on cs and ammo?

[umbral belfry]

[versed mesa]

Lol, C3 sniped me back, so I hit C2. Saw right before server going down that C3 hit me to take C2 from me. Welp

[humble tiger]

Successful snipe.

Can you attack someone while they're attacking someone?

[raven plover]

not anymore

[humble tiger]

Will it show a screen saying that they're in the middle of attacking someone?

[versed mesa]

I'm not getting top 3 points anyway, but now I just gave C3 a free pass to C2, since I am the only one of the other two he can beat

[raven plover]

its gonna say opponent rank changed iirc I forgor

[humble tiger]

This is fine.

That whale is only in CH2 because I allow them to be.

Soon, that wouldn't be the case.

[versed mesa]

I don't gem but 2 of the 3 whales in top 4 do, so I was only hitting the one that wouldn't gem, but he has been pumping synchro like crazy, and recently started gemming too, so I am just out of luck since I will never gem, since the gems from SP is the only thing I care about.

[rich quail]

Moran is smg I thought
no need for cs

You want 4 lines def for sure

[versed mesa]

It does ease the ego that because they gem, their extra 300 gems over me means nothing. One of them is already down 600 gems because of me

[fallow nebula]

Moran and noah want def? I thought its basically meaningless?

I know moran’s skill gives her so much def its relevant

OL stacks multiplicatively?

Prydwen says OLs are optional

[quick lake]

def is pretty much useless. Def is additive

[rich quail]

They both could use def

And Moran with treasure, def is pretty much what you want for PvP or PvE

But yeah up to you

[quick lake]

more of a nice to have

[rich quail]

yes

Never hurts, amirite?

[unique mountain]

He will never escape

[unique mountain]

Peaky blinders ahh frame

Snake ma

[raven plover]

yea free from quest check it out

[unique mountain]

On mobaile?

[raven plover]

yes they make it works like a month ago

go get your 67000 orbs

[fallow nebula]

If its additive isnt def equally valuable on any unit or does adding def to moran’s high def somehow be more effective

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/7Ly8sfEuNxI?si=w7677tspk68tIBoL

Bro used my S24 comps against me

Too bad he met the OG

[fathom rock]

Dahell snake you're ma now grats I guess?

[blissful willow]

Trying some new stuff out yk

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[spiral onyx]

Go fix pins kthxbai

Or is that mod only power

[blissful willow]

Mod only but someone still needs to tell them what to unpin/pin

Don't think they know ball like that otherwise

I'll see what I can do

Definitely a mess rn

[spiral onyx]

I've already consolidated all the links (I think) in the first pin

And then there's a bunch of info which already exists on Prydwen

Or needs to added to the individual unit guides or general PvP guides if they aren't there already

[blissful willow]

Bunch of wrong info as well cuz quite a bit has changed

Need to fix that first

[spiral onyx]

Misleading all the newbies

https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268

[onyx scaffold]

shift up updates today in order to rig my CA bracket

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[onyx scaffold]

don't keep failing against your old comp tho?

not "keep" but i think it should be at least twice

[spiral onyx]

It got 2/5 wins against me so that at least means it was pretty good

But that's just matchup RNG tbh

[onyx scaffold]

tbf

u win 3/5 this matchup

just a little more rng

[ionic rose]

And now somehow Moran is the only one unit that is SSS in everything. Still cannot get over it

[gritty ridge]

Is swha not?

[north brook]

They didnt give her it for campaign for some reason

Think they mbe didnt factor how good having burst gen and damage is

Their review doesnt mention how she is basically the best solution for instant death stages

[onyx scaffold]

prydwen always hype new shit

just wait

[north brook]

Tbh id have had her sss campaign just because tier list meant for noobs/casuals and swha is way way stronger in non manual non 45% defecit play

[onyx scaffold]

"this char helps significantly for high deficit campaign clear bla bla bla"
where is my SSS campaign takina?

[onyx scaffold]

moran barely helps anything for a new fresh account heh

but whatever. she is SSS in pvp and I'm in pvp channel, so they are right about that

[wild hemlock]

I just saw the pin for the CS stuff for Vesti & Lib. Are you telling me I might not even have 21% CS on both of them this whole time and nikketop is wrong for those 2

[north brook]

They have slightly different breakpoints basically

I think it is in top though(?)

[rich quail]

Moran handles the death volleyballs

SSS for that alone

The most annoying underlings in the game

[wild hemlock]

Is it working properly in top? Cause if I'm understanding the cs stuff I would have 20% instead of 21% I think...

[raven plover]

maybe show screenshot

[north brook]

How top works is it shows the correct timeline regardless of what u input

Like swha cs does nothing etc

[wild hemlock]

21% on nikketop but idk I don't really understand the cs for vesti/lib tbh but I get the feeling I might not actually have 21% if that post is correct

[crystal flicker]

ye it's 21

[raven plover]

yea its correct, the rounding is the same with the one in pin

its 21

[wild hemlock]

huh ok guess i don't understand it, guess i don't need to either thanks

[onyx scaffold]

idk eihter but i trust @crystal flicker and @raven plover
therefore my lib and vesti both have 5% CS

[raven plover]

[eager brook]

Unless the new Arcana version has godly burst gauge generation, she's just a "stop at MLB"?

[gritty ridge]

Stop at obtaining

[crystal flicker]

Unless you're a whale, just save for Anniv

[blissful willow]

She won't have any special generation

Only go for mlb if you are a water/fire main or want to future proof your deck for an eventually good iron/wind/electric sg unit

Otherwise one copy and dip is also fine

[quick lake]

Maybe some use for Altcana in PvP, her B2 is slightly weaker than Nayuta, but has 20% crit rate. And Fire wins against Wind Noah

4atk 4crit rate 4ele

Technically also buffs +85% Atk Dmg to SG which buffs BSoda’s nuke. Can technically do

Altcana + BSoda which should have just enough dmg to nuke

Viable if anyone wants to run BSoda nuke

Will test once game is up

[oak smelt]

Yeah, but no indom hurts so can't run her in p1 unless there is protection or have to run another b2 unit

[quick lake]

yeah

[crystal flicker]

Do you think this comp can wipe with just RH Nayuta?

[gaunt pulsar]

where does 85 come from? her burst buff is self buff so it's only 55?

[gaunt pulsar]

swha charge time gonna screw you, might as well b1 b3 with rh so swha stays on 1.2s charge speed

[quick lake]

For BSoda’s nuke, 29.99 + 55 atk dmg buff

[crystal flicker]

The whole point of that comp is to let Nayuta wipe enemy team without having to burst B3

and it's 2RL

[quick lake]

Altcana should be better. Better gen + 20% crit rate and fire

[gaunt pulsar]

bsoda gets 55?

[quick lake]

Oh didnt see the affect self for s3

[gaunt pulsar]

would be cool if it was team buff, but yea, it's just self and she only gives 55 to the team

[quick lake]

Would need 4x atk on Altcana + BSoda then

copium team it is

[gaunt pulsar]

well if swha is there just for burst gen seems a little wasted but, if you confident nayuta can solo

[crystal flicker]

It's not wasted if enemy comp dies

Blanc SWHA performance has been Stellar Stellar
But I need to fix weak link on other comp

[gaunt pulsar]

not a huge fan of her being fire, but probably better than viperT in 4sg setup still

we are in

[lethal karma]

could someone explain how i somehow lost vs this team

swha received indom but she dies in 1v1 vs their somehow indommed lib

[gaunt pulsar]

I dont think arcana is clipSG

[oak smelt]

Team is too fast, its that simple. Ur opponent indom outlast you

[gaunt pulsar]

swha has a long charge time, they have time to reach b2 before you kill them, you actually can fix that by just switching places of helmT and swha position or by using different wipe unit

[lethal karma]

damn

i just realize swha burst charge time bricked the wipe timing🤦

[gaunt pulsar]

all you need is to kill their blanc, ideal would be vesti there, but swha on offburst with so many buffs could work too i guess, her charge time will stay 1.2s and you still get her self attack buffs + ada/blanc/helmt ones

[lethal karma]

thx, vesti did it 👍

[crystal flicker]

Ended up with this super comp

[small gale]

Is new Arcana PVP relevant?

[gaunt pulsar]

seems not, she isn't clipSG tier so her potential usage drops significantly

which actually looks like a huge mistake because her animation doesn't suggests that she puts a mag in there and unlike other magSG her reload is on longer side same deal as with Guilty i guess

[swift mango]

too lower on the chart.

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Well, you could make enemies deal 1 dmg with enough dmg so yeah, but vesti exists and a nuke hit is just too high dmg for def to do anything.

[swift mango]

[humble tiger]

The CH2 in my bracket added me as a friend. I guess it's truce.

Can't attack him anymore, it's gonna be awkward.

[swift mango]

eh then get c2 so he can't attack you.

[humble tiger]

Also, the guy managed to snipe me 7 seconds before maintenance. I logged in to see that I was in CH3 instead of 2.

Goddammit.

@tropic summit

I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

Last time I got Jackal from Missilis Mold.

Just a few days ago I got Centi from Records.

And now I opened another set of records and it's Trina.

[oak smelt]

Next would be Noah

Its a pattern

[humble tiger]

You can't get Noah in records dummy. And I don't trust Pilgrim Molds to drop me a Noah.

[oak smelt]

Duh, not saying its from records

[humble tiger]

I did like 50 pulls today. Nothing.

20 on Altcana, nothing.
30 on standard, nothing.

[oak smelt]

[humble tiger]

I don't wanna go all in on gems yet.

I'm gonna pull more in Day 14, then decide if I should spend gems or not.

@tropic summit new def team possible?

[lethal karma]

2 multis 1 arcana, ez

[swift mango]

0 pull 0 arcana, ez

[tulip quest]

bruhhh I wanna save but Arcana is ady Meta

not mine btw

[eager brook]

If Alt Arcana is going to replace anyone in the PvP SG team then she's going to need the core 7 treatment 💳

[tulip quest]

Haven't tested if she's clip

but fire SG hmmm