pvp-arena

[versed mesa]

He is already 1000 gems down this season. If he just wants to get to CA he could just sit in 4th

[shell hazel]

it's that vesti TU atk role clearly winning every battle now

[versed mesa]

Must be, that is the only team I made any major changes to

I am 706 to his 672, so I do have quite a bit of a CP gap for the time being too.

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit I got Centi today.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-22511058

[versed mesa]

He has bought every gacha skin in the game, I have not so I dunno how I can be the whale

[shell hazel]

[humble tiger]

I don't think Centi fits anywhere in my def teams.

[tropic summit]

one step closer to unbricking

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-by-brick-gif-11895201320599332266

[humble tiger]

Can I ditch Anis now?

[versed mesa]

Anyone got any ideas to counter these? It's the C2, might try him since C3 is probably gonna camp for me to hit him back for an hour or two.

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro what is void rookie team? maybe we can beat it anyway even if +50 sync?

[versed mesa]

CP is a bit of an issue though, so if I can't make an out of deficit team I'll just hit C3, even if he takes it back immediately

[shell hazel]

a bigger 🐳 !

[oblique gyro]

with my current team it is rng idk how to garanteed win

[shell hazel]

what is he running?

[oblique gyro]

shit team just trying to cp gap as always

[shell hazel]

oh lordy lol

it is a mix of cp gap + some burst gen

[oblique gyro]

yes

[shell hazel]

cindy p1 though speeds you up

it's pretty slow

RH B2 naturally

you'd need this much cp to get out of deficit

[oblique gyro]

ok nvm i win with another draft

[shell hazel]

try this if you willing to throw a go at it

it's 2RL if your vesti has about 11% CS

[tropic summit]

indom T1
noah biscuit lib helmt noise T2
skip T3

[shell hazel]

it's funny he can still lose even +50 sync 😄

[oblique gyro]

yeah haha

[tropic summit]

ye centi instead of anis if CP doesn't go actually lower

[shell hazel]

what I sent I think should work too, vesti is deficit queen

good work though!

[oblique gyro]

it also works yeah i just removed nayuta for moran

(moran enjoyer here)

[shell hazel]

I can tell 😄

but. same! lol

actually you almost out of deficit with that so yep, though RH not doing much anymore just padding, could run someone else if you run that comp

RH was the B1 before

[humble tiger]

Ye. Higher with Centi.

[oblique gyro]

right yeah

[shell hazel]

death to void!

[oblique gyro]

sadly it will be way harder to hit him on SPA

[shell hazel]

he really cp padded it

two teams and 1 cp pad team

but you can likely beat his cp pad team with a similar strat though

[wise horizon]

whats a good comp against this? I have most Nikkes apart from Rapunzel and VestiTU @tropic summit

[eager brook]

Noah against the 3rd team and Rosana to dispel Indom against T1

[tropic summit]

they revive via rapunzel

i'd rather force misindom on biscuit in p5

[slender grove]

Any ideas on beating this team in SA?

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe I can attempt to defeat @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

run these

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-dead-stop-killing-me-cut-it-out-gif-12894224

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dead-my-honest-reaction

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll defeat you one day

[versed mesa]

I beat him, thanks champ

[tropic summit]

run these

[versed mesa]

He is gonna take it back in a few hours, maybe less, but I don't care

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-1

[tropic summit]

go easy on me

[umbral belfry]

whale

[shell hazel]

us f2p gotta stand up for ourselves sometimes

[swift mango]

Filthy f2p

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sad-gif-10692536301102666475

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dexter-42

[maiden hare]

Team 3 lost but my filler team 2 managed to win. Thanks for the help

[tropic summit]

f2p, just like us

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-morgan-bayharbour-butcher-knife-gif-13863408

[tropic summit]

oh good job, i take it T3 vestiTU died on the followup hit of cindy?
the idea was to kill noah via vestiTU and lappy, but you had a backup plan to be 2.5RL to catch cindy nuke
if enemy had no CS%, although, you probably get hit by followups and i'm thinking that's what happened, but it could also be SWHa sniped her during FB early on

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doakes-im-watching-you

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-happy-dexter-happy-dexter-morgan-dexter-morgan-dexter-morgan-meme-gif-9727654208225572611

@leaden canyon came to assist me today, I don't see any @tropic summit

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-15530372636024879885

Dair I shall visit your boat tomorrow

[maiden hare]

Yeah i think cindy got her, but i was barely awake when i attacked so i didn't really see much, i'll have to get a recording next time i attack

[tropic summit]

oke thanks

[tropic summit]

oh i might've actually forgotten about assists

gonna do them now

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit do u approve

[tropic summit]

ye that's good pasta

@shell hazel check again

[shell hazel]

do they carry over? I just signed off lol

[shell hazel]

holy shit I can read italian lol

Italian Artisan durum wheat pasta. Did I get that right?

that pasta is from Genoa

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon try making a pizza at home

[shell hazel]

out of pasta

[tropic summit]

with your cooking skills you could give it a shot

[hollow lagoon]

That’s my mom’s hobby

[tropic summit]

you've a good mum, get her to teach you the art

home made pizza are yummy and satisfying

[hollow lagoon]

[rich quail]

Quick question: Is atk useful to Rumani?

[tropic summit]

CS% and a bit of ammo is all you need

any other stat can be w/e, for min/maxing you could give her def% but won't be as relevant as on units like nero and moran

[rich quail]

Thank you

I am like only 6% cs and I want to improve her speed

Is it 11% or 15% cs that is the goal?

[tropic summit]

11% is a good stopping point, 15% is cherry on top

[rich quail]

Okay, I will aim for at least another cs then

I also need to improve bay cs but kinda cursed

[leaden canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1319335546702532708/efcad7e322991ec3d686fb4dbf635d646016a201498977bf564d7f9d72a512b9-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[shell hazel]

I went back to my ship only to find that @tropic summit had somehow tired out my Gilberta!

[tropic summit]

she took a shower after, don't worry

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-5607590126095157032

[leaden canyon]

Use my assist on her

[shell hazel]

I did she's back to life again

[leaden canyon]

[glad meteor]

[lunar pawn]

@broken lark you got attacked

[compact ore]

oh doppel youre here too o:

[lunar pawn]

I am

do I know you

[shell hazel]

red chat let's go!

[lunar pawn]

oh you're the guy I talked to in #story-spoilers from time to time I think

[umbral belfry]

not red

[glad meteor]

Noob

[placid bloom]

imagine you rank up and can't match Arcana anymore

[umbral belfry]

I swear to god

[placid bloom]

would be tragic

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

delete some posts to undo some xp lol

-# I don't know if that actually works

[placid bloom]

I assume you can't derank since the bot tracking is separate from Discord tracking

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

it's okay you can be Isabel lover when you rank up

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

Rei

[rich quail]

Echo

I see you are stripped of your rank

… and your dignity

[keen vapor]

ET, name that emote as Triggered

[rich quail]

I can’t control that, Private Echo

[clear depot]

Someone can help me to understand something? On my understanding attacker (below team) wins P1 and P5, not sure about the next ones but i think it could win also P2 and P4

But the vast majority is cheering at the player at the defence player (upper team)

Much RNG involved? or i just suck to guess the winner?

[keen vapor]

Not private

[umbral belfry]

[rich quail]

Public Echo

[keen vapor]

I missed this so much thank you

[umbral belfry]

does the def player have a higher commander level? if so there's your answer

p4 is unlikely to win though, maybe if very lucky stuns and/or top lacks cs

[rich quail]

Oh how the mighty have fallen

Rookie Echo

Use core dust cases to level up to Amateur Echo

[keen vapor]

But I need to defeat snakes :Liter sip:

[compact ore]

[keen vapor]

Oi

Pay attention to those pings

[compact ore]

demoted to the point you cant sip ?

[clear depot]

Attacker 719 and defender 744, but when you check them, attacker has more CP total on his teams

[umbral belfry]

CA brain for the audience 99.9% of the time is "bigger level? they win "

[keen vapor]

Imagine being able to sip

[umbral belfry]

don't bother looking at teams for the most part. that said your match is close due to the t2

but now you know why there's a vast majority for the higher commander level

[compact ore]

[keen vapor]

[compact ore]

[rich quail]

[clear depot]

Yeah I guess that's how it is. Pure logic

[keen vapor]

Ojou-sama

[compact ore]

[clear depot]

Thank you

[slender grove]

Thank you!

For Harmony Cubes. Quantum Cube is Lvl 13, Resilience Cube is maxed, Adjutant Cube is lvl 8, Vigor Cube is lvl 7, Tempering Cube is lvl 7.

Team 1 : ( Jackal - Quantum | Helm - Quantum | Cindy - Resilience | Emilia - Quantum | Noah - Adjutant )
Team 2 : ( Blanc - Vigor | Liberalio - Resilience | Crown - Resilience | Biscuit - Adjutant | Rapunzel - Vigor )

All good? Or better harmony cubes to optimize?

[tight finch]

Tempering

[slender grove]

Tempering for whom . Libby and Crown?

[tight finch]

Everyone loves tempering
Unless somethings tuned for all the quantums lol

[tropic summit]

helmt and noah prefer tempering
rest seem ok

[hollow lagoon]

I prefer helmT (in bed)

She is very good at burst gen

[tropic summit]

wash the sheets afterward

hygiene is important

girl... you going out wearing THAT

[raven plover]

imagine privaty gacha skin with bay skin pose

[small gale]

if Rapunzel stuns the opposing team and Siren's 50th bullet hits a stunned unit, what happens? Is the stun extended, overwritten to Siren's 3s stun, or nothing?

[covert lintel]

Better win for my credit box

[raven plover]

I voted the enemy

my 1st and 5th are both free win wtf its so bad

well I copy paste so

1st and 5th team only won once so far

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/scissors-gif-11511235885924031825

[covert lintel]

You'll win 4 or 5 trust

[raven plover]

ok like rosy said I trust the process from rakuen

[swift mango]

[raven plover]

trust the process

of losing

[upper grove]

ingrid approves very TACTICAL

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[umbral crown]

rail wheeling soon

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kopa22-anime-highschool-dx-d-highschool-dxd-new-dxd-gif-22142813

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/latom-gif-24537370

[swift mango]

0 rocks 2 days in a row. Today I even loss 70 gems reroll dispatch for nothing

[gritty ridge]

She is my favorite from dxd

I love irina

[small gale]

bumping

[gritty ridge]

Newest stun overwrites iirc

So at best youre getting like a 3.5 sec stun

[real abyss]

do i just slot in moran treasure instead of red hood

[quick lake]

Can work, yes

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-scissor-scissors-catch-gif-25285592

[rich quail]

I will process the trust

[ocean plover]

Hi yall can someone help me make a pvp team for novice arena

Top left is rrh btw

[compact eagle]

is 75% deficit winnable?

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-dwayne-johnson-seven-bucks-the-rock-fake-laugh-gif-20130201

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/konata-izumi-lacky-star-gif-anime-no-no-gif-3133155792508614447

[white compass]

Rumani skills? I just got her to max purp doll

[umbral crown]

10/4/4

[rich quail]

Keripo wants you to trust the ||gray boxes||

[crystal flicker]

If I had a penny for every highly invested VesT comp in THIS CA that I faced, I'll have 2 pennies

Which is weird, because I dont remember this bracket became so sweaty

[hoary magnet]

any team recs for my SP arena?

and arena

[slender grove]

Counter for this in Rookie Arena?

[crystal flicker]

Rosa

[gaunt pulsar]

would probably go with something like this, where team 3 is kinda the weakest but you can try slotting your highest combat power units there instead, it's not worth it trying to spread it out to 3 teams yet so just 2 competent teams might pose more challenge to your opponent.

your teams aren't that bad either for what you have, and if you tried to make 3 balanced teams, but positioning in some of them is just off, you cannot use your highest burst gen unit - Anis, in position 1, should switch places with Nayuta. In team 2 noise not gonna tank without gear and dolls and it's easy to just shotgun her down leaving you without any burst 1 unit, so she should have been at least position 2 while chisato blocks for her a little. Team 3 same deal, drake is leftmost burst 3 unit so in that team she bursts as your b3 and she on purple doll so she is better unit to stall enemy a little in position 1 instead of label while vesti and snow white shoot enemy down.

[gaunt pulsar]

anis in position 4
any b1 unit or rrh (if you not using b1) in position 3, in your case it's probably n102 or neon for now
fill rest of the slots with your highest combat power b3 units

that's the best you can do for a while until you get more levels/units

[hoary magnet]

alr ty sir, also where can i find the web shows in the image?

[gaunt pulsar]

https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck it has some pvp articles to read too if you missing info

[rain garnet]

just recently started getting serious in pvp and need some advice in SP arena specifically for defense team. any recs?

[crystal flicker]

or 3x2RL with Anis

[rain garnet]

thank you!

[restive heart]

i think bro gave up

[shell hazel]

waiting till he gets paid to buy more gems to waste

[hollow lagoon]

[upbeat dock]

Do you feel a little sad

I had someone like that who i traded attacks with for months, then he just stopped logging in one day

[tulip quest]

burnt out + stress I believe

when people not having fun, but instead adding to their stress people quit doing it not long after

[gaunt pulsar]

what if he was never dropping cash and just burning through his savings to get to CA at least once?

[tulip quest]

Feels like Last episode of a Shounen manga or something XD

https://tenor.com/view/موت-جو-gif-1070134627540518610

[restive heart]

kinda. maybe a bit

i feel happy because im not consistently opening nikke on my phone just to check if im deranked or not

kinda feel sad cuz he is not spending 30k plus gems per season anymore

[swift mango]

He is broke, like @tropic summit, @keen vapor and @lone sequoia after using their stack of 300k+ gems.

Especially Echo, bricked and if he used all his gems to hit.

[mighty haven]

@hard hatch come post in here

[hard hatch]

do i just post my inv

[mighty haven]

@swift mango please build a rookie team for @hard hatch here

Kisenix-nyan was leaning on Centi/Biscuit/Drake/Label/Rumani

[hard hatch]

Im diamond 4 in the other pvp thing is that good

[mighty haven]

For SPA? that's great if you're not trying to be competitive

Higher ranking players will either have pulled more units/spent more money/have higher sync etc etc etc

[swift mango]

Blanc+Rapipi+Biscuit+Label/Liter+Centi

Label is better but less CP.

[hollow lagoon]

Label prob better on p5

Since label is likely the link

Oh wait

[hard hatch]

so I put label?

[hollow lagoon]

No jackal

This is gambaroni

[swift mango]

CP is important is Arena

could even go

Blanc+Rapipi+Drake+Biscuit+Label

[hard hatch]

that's the best in your opinion?

if so should I like give them the yellow equipment

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369

[hollow lagoon]

Gib them yellow ye

[unique wagon]

no i didnt

[swift mango]

If teams not 15% CP different from each other, go with label option. Upgrade her s2.

[hard hatch]

to 7 or 4?

[swift mango]

7 if you had the book

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t got nuff output

You burst but ya got no ongoing pressure

Centi biscuit just stall till you melt to opponent

[swift mango]

I mean just try them all and keep whichever helped u win.

[hollow lagoon]

Blood’s comp is gambaroni

But if indom lands on rapi you are prob winning

[hard hatch]

thank you

I won my daily matches

[swift mango]

If you see the enemy having Siren/little mermaid, could use

Rumani/Centi+Balnc+Rapi+Biscuit+Label

In this case put Vigor cube everyone that's not Blanc and Rapi, I guess.

or

Rumani/Centi+Rapipi+Blanc+Biscuit+Label

[marble saddle]

@swift mango this much CS good enough for rumani?

[swift mango]

Minimum 11%, you are fine. I only go for minimum because my luck suck

fml

[marble saddle]

i just got lucky on rumani, otherwise im pretty much the same

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t even have minimum

[marble saddle]

yeah but you're zanth

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

why are you talking about yourself
i'm almost done saving for nikke 4.0.5

[tropic summit]

you first

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Only 275k? You have fallen out of Nesso and Echo league.

[hollow lagoon]

I mean I’m barely 200

[tropic summit]

ye i had to waste a bit of gems for takina and chisato, took 30-40 for both in total

bad luck i could've found both of them in a single x10

[swift mango]

But you have 1000 more in 💳

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

How did u steal this from @umbral crown?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hibike-euphonium-65

[tropic summit]

you better watch out

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t

[tropic summit]

my synchro has increased of a whopping 1 synchro

[swift mango]

You make it yourself?

[tropic summit]

you can no longer defeat me @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t

[swift mango]

So how did you get it?

[hollow lagoon]

I got invited to mid server cuz they wanted to yeet some guy at me

The guy end up not contacting me anyway

[tropic summit]

@swift mango unlike you, zant has the connections and friends

he's a man of power

[hollow lagoon]

But I do what invasive species do best

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/moro-gif-13247495123970361894

[tropic summit]

i mean he leads 3 unions of cultists

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe your leader can get me to cave and merger

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/frieren-anime-23

[tropic summit]

you're never gonna merge

you got so many elite cultists you don't need any merge

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe I’ll sell my entire union to acquire rail

[tropic summit]

sounds like a bad deal, i'm pepega f2p

[swift mango]

Merging and Acquisition. You merge your company with another one then buy out its stock and become the new boss.

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

U do pasta

[tropic summit]

and gelato

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Sanity is overrated

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hyperdimension-neptunia-neptunia-13

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[raven plover]

pepega mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/holy-gif-20136404

[jagged current]

I have a question about one of my defense teams on SP Arena. Right now, it is like this:
Emma T. U., Biscuit, Rapi R. H., Snow White Heavy Arms, Rapunzel

My question is about Biscuit. Seeing there are no "Defender" class Nikkes around, should I swap her for Blanc? To grant Indom and all that?

[rich quail]

Yes. You never want to put Biscuit out there on a team if she isn’t helping a defender survive

I am not an expert, but that is one thing I learned from people here. More qualified people here can recommend positioning as well, as that is vital for max optimization

[jagged current]

Roger that, thank you. And, yes, I've just recently joined this Discord channel, and have been learning a lot from the pros.
I'll swap Biscuit right away. Much appreciated, friend.

[tulip quest]

This RL chart shud help u also

Snow HA being 2nd to HelmT i don't have latest

Ur main goal in making comps is usually to get it to 2RL

or in this case 100%

Unless ur going for tricky comps like Rumani Blanc Biscuit Cindy Mihara

[jagged current]

Thank you for your explanation.
I get the general idea of reaching burst with my teams, but don't always have the right units properly built (like Cinderella, which I own 2 copies, but still building her).

[tulip quest]

oh what level currently

[jagged current]

At least, I've been able to fend off 80% of all attacks against my defenses, so I'm holding the fort till my units get stronger

[tulip quest]

pvp meta hp values changes and goes higher the higher your level is

[tulip quest]

That's good knowledge is power

[jagged current]

I'm a new player (4 months in), and my strongest Nikke is 52k CP (Drake Treasure). I can give you the stats about Cinderella. One moment.

I'm not using Cindy yet because I don't believe she is strong enough

[tulip quest]

no problem just go at it slowly

people here usually gives advice

[jagged current]

Here goes.
Cinderella: 1 star.
CP 29k (if you compare to the 52k from my top Nikke, its so far away)
Skills: 5/5/6
All pieces of gear are correctly associated for Missilis, but none are OL as of yet. I'm still investing in other Nikkes.

[tulip quest]

for Nikke your main priority is Campaign, Hard Campaign = levels Special Arena (Level required) = Gems then Solo raid bonus gems

[jagged current]

Yeah, the few times I've talked to around here have been really helpful so far. Great community for sure. 🙂

[tulip quest]

you can use this Blalink

[jagged current]

Thats for Helm only, correct?

[tulip quest]

it connects your Nikke so if u want to share ur Nikke stats n stuff easier

ya

applies to every Nikke

[restive heart]

i wonder if he actually ran out of gems. he alr did his dailies

sadly his resources are private

[tulip quest]

Maybe some1 adviced him to stop doing it and just play normally

[restive heart]

maybe he got sense of enlightenment

[tulip quest]

hopefully for him

[jagged current]

Great roster, friend. Hopefully I can be somewhere near your level a year from now. 🙂

[tulip quest]

nah it's normal account I just started the game 4 months late after it's release

so close to 3 years now

[jagged current]

Wow

So I'll need more than 1 year, hahahaha. 😄

[tulip quest]

if you like the game you can continue for long

[jagged current]

I'll make sure to stop by every now and then and ask for advices too

[tulip quest]

I just play it if no events like 10 minutes a day n stuff

[jagged current]

Oh I love the game. I play 4 gachas atm, and this one is still the best by a mile.

[tulip quest]

Also 1 Advise

Do not use your Gold Tickets x200 on normal banners

Wait to use on Pilgrims Meta

[jagged current]

Roger that

[tulip quest]

cause they are 1%

more value on using that for them

[jagged current]

Ok.
This last weekend I reached 200 silver mileage tickets (the regular kind) and bought the Season 5 pack in order to guarantee a copy of Moran. Even though I still do not have her yet, I'm aware she's become part of meta in PVP, so, better to start saving from now. 🙂

[tulip quest]

your past 160 level wall?

the 5x 3MLB characters

[jagged current]

Oh ye, level 225 if I'm not wrong

[tulip quest]

Don't pull for every1

just choose Meta or What you like

I don't have much advise just ask us here when u have 1

[jagged current]

I try to keep 30k gems every time, and only pull when I reach 33k, in order to keep a stash available for any future banners which are worth it. But there is no other way for me to get new Nikkes or copies aside from striking the Standard Recruit banner and fill in the "Bonus Recruit" too (little by little I'm getting limit breaks for Helm).

I'll get there. Little by little. Not in a hurry. 🙂
Being a 42 year old dad, there is plenty to do around the house and at work, so this here is just for fun.

[tulip quest]

Yea take it slow just have fun

end game is usually at level 400 anyways

and can just casually solo raid also

[jagged current]

Got it. I'll be around. Studying what you guys post here. Eventually I'll learn the ropes in PVP as well.

Thanks for the help, mate.

[tulip quest]

https://www.youtube.com/@Keripo/videos

Also I suggest Keripo for pvp compositions

he makes many interesting ones

[jagged current]

Awesome! Thank you!

[high stream]

Can you beat that team without using Noah or Blanc? My Jackal is also tied up to win against his Team 1.
Mostly curious if you can/ I could.

[tulip quest]

Hmm thats tuff it's also 2RL

I try I guess

[high stream]

Also .. I've been successfully defending my Rank 8 against everyone for almost 2 weeks now .. except this guy. I keep making adjustments, like 4 days ago .. to which he loses, but then he adjusts and keeps beating me again. Not sure what else to do. He seems set on competing with me .. although he can't maintain #8 against me. In the final last standing, I took Rank 8, he only got Rank 11 .. so he cant maintain points. But still .. he keeps attacking me constantly.

[tulip quest]

He is competitive and having I guess

[high stream]

and having?

[tulip quest]

can I use biscuit vs that comp?

[high stream]

The 3 teams I use against him .. and all pvp Nikke I have.

[tulip quest]

KK i TRY Check

@tropic summit u here btw bro

[high stream]

Also .. this is my defense. It seems to work against everyone ranking between #20 to #8 .. except this guy. But I'm also a bit wary to change it .. since it seems to beat everyone else.

[tulip quest]

Moran Scarlet Liberalio Trina LapT

Not sure bout this tho

[high stream]

I'll try it next time he takes my spot, see if I can triple him. Maybe intimidate him

[tulip quest]

Moran n Scarlet at least I know Invul for 2seconds at battle start

[tulip quest]

Nayuta is usually countered by Moran Noah Lib

[high stream]

Yeah, I got really good at using my Noah and my Blanc to win at least 2 out of 3

Been solving attacks on my own for a while now

But still .. whatever I do to my defense, he loses once .. then beats it.

[tulip quest]

OKAY i have suggestion

[high stream]

And I'm not sure if I should just accept that, since I can win against everyone else trying to come for my spot

Sure, lets hear it

[tulip quest]

89% but

2x Shotgun

to Scarlet

Nayuta also adds to scarlet counter burst gen

[high stream]

That's for attacking his 2nd team, right?

[tulip quest]

ya

[high stream]

Alright. I'll let u know if it works, once he tries again

[tulip quest]

ya curious also

[jagged current]

Sorry to butt into someone else's conversation, but I'm reading here and considering my game too...
I'm investing in this team: Scarlet / Trina / Centi / Red Hood / Jackal

Does Scarlet "still have it"? Worth investing in 2026?

[tulip quest]

cause it's budget comp

[tulip quest]

For attacking yes

[jagged current]

Oh ok

[tulip quest]

but for Defense if they have Label no

[high stream]

For defense .. Scarlet is pretty much over cause Label exists. You can still use it, but u're taking a bet on them having Label or not

[jagged current]

Right. So attacking teams only. thanks.

[tulip quest]

Label destroys fast Electric comps that attack fast like Cindy n Scarlet

[high stream]

Unfortunately we cant see what they use to attack us and what team beat which team .. so u also cant really test if they have Label or not

[tulip quest]

yea but if ever they have Scarlet is just worthless as defense sadly

[high stream]

Pretty much

[jagged current]

You are right about that.

Lazypod, would Scarlet still fit with Cinderella in a team with Centi and Jackal for defense? Or better drop Scarlet altogether for Defense and focus on better RL alternatives?

[tulip quest]

considering your level 200+ shud still be good

unless you have better alternatives sticking with scarlet for now isn't bad

It's impossible to have perfect defense attacker always have advantage

[jagged current]

I kinda do, but they are already strapped to the other 2 teams

[tulip quest]

What u wanna do is put compositions that pressures them

[jagged current]

Right

[lofty spire]

Can i get some help with my sp arena defense team? I've been rocking mine for 3-4 weeks now and some dudes have begun to snipe me (btw most of them are 20 levels above mine with the top 3 being 60-80)

[tulip quest]

u got priv Treasured?

[jagged current]

But here is an honest question, something I've always wanted to ask a Nikke veteran:

Do you keep remodeling your 3 SP attack teams to against different team compositions? I've never changed mine, but... if that's what it takes to adapt...

[lofty spire]

yeh

[tulip quest]

If you are able to then ya I do when my SPA was competitive

[lofty spire]

Instead of remodeling you should have 2 teams that counter the usual defense teams while swapping in siren for any teams that put noah/blanc on the first slot

[jagged current]

Wow, alright... O___O I've never considered changing the good old composition, but I might have to reconsider based on the enemie's different team compositions

[torn obsidian]

@covert lintel

[jagged current]

I see what you mean, and shall take that into consideration. When I get Little Mermaid, I'll start using her, then. I'm a new player.

[swift mango]

indom scarlet and rosa scarlet is still okay if the enemy is bad

[lofty spire]

gluck with pvp then. tho pvp in nikke feels more like a side quest than anything

[tulip quest]

Can I try Cooking?

[lofty spire]

hope you enjoy the story @jagged current

[lofty spire]

sure go crazy

[tulip quest]

Moran Noah Trina HelmT Snow HA, Cindy Rumani Nayuta Biscuit Label/Anis/Rapunzel/Noise SAME T3

[lofty spire]

thx for trying but i don't have label

[crystal flicker]

I lost on 32 again

[tulip quest]

Rapunzel?

[lofty spire]

ngl did 320 pulls and did not get her (saving tickets for pilgrims)

[crystal flicker]

Personal note: put Rosa on P5

[lofty spire]

i have her built

[remote thunder]

Anyone can help me make teams for arena?

[tulip quest]

can try it

I made teams based on your former team

team 1 team 2 I half added

Just take it with a grain of salt I can't make teams as good as Railtracer n Blood

[lofty spire]

nah any inspiration is appreciated

[tulip quest]

level 200?

[remote thunder]

Yes

[tulip quest]

k Itry

lemme use deck first

[lofty spire]

never thought about using trina with moran and noah so i'mma go and experiment

[tulip quest]

trina makes both scarlet n moran INVUL for 2 sec

[swift mango]

320 pulls on label banner or?

[tulip quest]

HelmT treasured?

[remote thunder]

Yes.
You have said HelmT

[lofty spire]

add in the fact that she has high burst gen makes her really viable yeah

just glad i'll get to use her again since i stopped after scarlet got thrown out of the meta because of label

[lofty spire]

320 pulls on label banner

[swift mango]

[spice talon]

these are my three teams. what am i doing wrong or are they just fine?

[high stream]

@swift mango yo rail, can u take a look at this? Have been making huge progress in the last 2 weeks, solving all attacks and even successfully adjusting defense to beat everyone. But this guy keeps coming for me .. last final standing, he was #11 in points, i maintained my #8 in points. But he still keeps coming for me. But I'm also worried changing my defense too much .. cause it seems to be working against everyone else. Im a bit at a loss with this situation.

[lone sequoia]

xd

[spice talon]

f u so mean

[lone sequoia]

yep

i will not talk about units, but position is bad

[spice talon]

i mean they do fine i am 2.1 mill with people near 3 mill

[swift mango]

I'm not rail.

[high stream]

Fk.

Y'all names are confusing. But if u have any ideas, still happy to hear them

[lone sequoia]

money

[spice talon]

yea their names. i though it was My blood sister got railed

[high stream]

[spice talon]

i heard goyim is good

[high stream]

wat

[umbral belfry]

@wild hemlock this is all your fault

[tulip quest]

IM Sorry man I tried

[lone sequoia]

• you don't want blanc dead and p1 without biscuit is ff (also... really slow team)
• no reason to go with nayuta+jackal+biscuit if you are not using one of those units p1 (not biscuit)
• noah as only b2 in p1 is a risky move (without biscuit or +11%cs for 2RL teams)

[swift mango]

Got my revenge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1483471155062112340/Screenshot_2026-03-17-21-24-30-939_com.proximabeta.nikke.jpg?ex=69bab5ac&is=69b9642c&hm=f1986996b9a8043e3faf6ef7db3d68b7041fe6e37648c969f36cc6c50487d488&

[spice talon]

gonna screen shot that Nesso.

do i move noah to the center and put noise in front?

[lone sequoia]

it will be the same, but noise can tank a bit more

[spice talon]

ill just put dog water HARD R helm t in front

[lone sequoia]

if the comps work for you keep them, if you need help, you can ask for pvp info or teams (i don't build teams)

[spice talon]

where do i go for help? i though this was it?

[spice talon]

for team building

[tulip quest]

Revised Version

[spice talon]

just answered my question

[tulip quest]

Can I try to rearrange this?

[spice talon]

i mean if sure

[tulip quest]

got Ada btw?

[spice talon]

if u need to see my whole team and those i am working on ill show them too. problem is i am working on 6 PVP units

[spice talon]

ada wong or ada bunny

[tulip quest]

wong

[lone sequoia]

nayuta/vesti, indom swha+ada? and lib noah?

[spice talon]

no i missed 4 months

[toxic cradle]

Who is Ada bu- oh, Ade…

[spice talon]

hottest character in game

[toxic cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-licking-tongue-anime-girl-licking-screen-definitesilence-gif-14377249506724985720

[tulip quest]

got Emilia btw?

[tropic summit]

defense per se is fine, although it's probably old enough for people to have finally solved it
you'd need to change a bit the archetypes and speed, could try running an offburst SWHA indom with nuke or siren or rosanna pressure, while switching vestiTU in a 2RL noise noah biscuit
the nayuta team could stay for the most part unchanged or swap to a 2.5RL cindy or even just a slow cindy to see if opponents know what they doin'

[spice talon]

no hahahahaha

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

nice team ordering skills

[spice talon]

this is what i got

[swift mango]

Did you check my video it's basically mirror.

[lone sequoia]

i see a cindy

[tropic summit]

still team ordering, good job on ~~wasting ~~investing for CA tho

[tulip quest]

you can ask blood here to revise it if it looks bad

[spice talon]

ill save that problem is ive got to build now 4 units. AHHHHH

thanks a bunch

[tulip quest]

wut units u don't have

[tropic summit]

looks good

[tulip quest]

can always find replacements

[swift mango]

And it's not my fault that he only uses Copy pasta from CN. And this time it's bad 6 RL team than none of my team lose to.

Last 3 times he also won me on ordering anyway.

[tropic summit]

what comes around goes around, as they say

[spice talon]

rumani laplace and trina are not built up

[lone sequoia]

DoT team is cn comp?

[spice talon]

and my CEnti

[swift mango]

What else.

[lone sequoia]

just asking

i saw mihara/moran/biscuit long ago, not the bay version

[swift mango]

That Moran+Midhara+Biscuit was my team from CA4 or 5. Same CA Merry made Rumani+Blanc slow Cindy.

[lone sequoia]

balance?

[swift mango]

Blanc got auto corrected

[lone sequoia]

is interesting that every old team that is "meta" shift to "cn" team

[tropic summit]

switch to these until you build more of your pvp core units
@tulip quest teams were good but you didn't account for his invested units, avoid using uninvested units but do point them out to whoever you building the teams for instead, that way they can slowly upgrade

[swift mango]

I tested Moran Bay since CA #6 but it's very slow so I never used it. Barely 6rl with the condition that Biscuit not killed.

Slower than 6rl and you lose Biscuit skill.

[tulip quest]

Yea that might be better for CP also

[tulip quest]

yea my bad didn't account for it was focused only for meta

[tropic summit]

no worries teams per se were fine

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-job-konata-1

[lone sequoia]

i killed a nayuta/cindy version like a hour ago, didn't reach b1...

[swift mango]

The Moran Bay Biscuit Slow Cindy is basically whale team because Biscuit need to survive to 6RL somehow.

[tropic summit]

blood only fights weakling or whels, no way in between

[tulip quest]

@spice talon go with Railtracers cook for more CP IN SPA

[lone sequoia]

i think my helmT got all hits against biscuit p5 (sp) crit

and who use a critical unit in p1 or p5?

[high stream]

Quite a bit of stuff in there that I'm not very familiar with yet. Sounds like new teams I haven't learned.
Noise, Noah, TVesti, Biscuit, ? .. who would be an ideal 5th in here?
For off burst SWHA .. would it be something like Jackal, HelmT, Centi, Blanc, SWHA?
Regarding the other things you mentioned .. I'm not sure at all how to build good Siren and Rosanna defense teams yet. And I'm also not familiar with "Slow Cindy" teams and how they'd ideally look.

[swift mango]

Yeah, Biscuit p5 is not copy pasta but just straight up bad build.

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

from one of the guys who lost for months against my old DEF, imagine losing against stall sanis

[spice talon]

CP? IN? SPA? i am not trying to be funny i i dont know what that is. i know what RE9 is and dude that game was insanely good

[tulip quest]

Biscuit could be the last 1 standing and win u games

[tulip quest]

combat points

[swift mango]

P4 is the safest, not 5.

[tulip quest]

the numbers of your team

[spice talon]

i might be too high dont know what that is

[tropic summit]

for noise noah vesti, aim for 2.5RL, any flex unit
for offburst swha, put a unit with higher HP in front so you burst with that one, but retain SWHA linked as actual indom target

e.g.

jackal privT blanc swha xmaiden, with privT on higher HP than swha, will result in you nuking but getting a DPS indommed (SWHA), good to throw off the enemy sometimes

slow cindy mostly comes in the following

• nayuta rumani cindy biscuit flex (blancless slow cindy)
• blanc siren cindy biscuit rumani (stun pressure)
• blanc mihara cindy biscuit rumani (most generic slow cindy, has DoT pressure and long delay via blanc to stack thoseUP)

[tulip quest]

what if Biscuit is 50% ATK 21%CS And 20% CRIT RATE?

[swift mango]

Stall Anis or Stall Privaty+Anis sub dmg?

[tulip quest]

Basically if your opponents numbers too high they will deal more damage to you and you LESS DAMAGE TO them

[swift mango]

Still bad on p5

[tulip quest]

just think of this More CP = More win Less CP = Less likely to win

[spice talon]

oh ok. i am dumb

[lone sequoia]

"SANIS"... noah/noise/...

[high stream]

Gotcha .. tyvm. Let me see what I can cook up. I guess its finally time to spend ressources on properly building my xMaiden and my Rosanna .. Gotta full OL their gear .. Skills at least to level 7 breakpoints .. SR5 Doll needed?

[tropic summit]

rosanna is expensive, xmaiden a bit less, just change things up without investing first

[tulip quest]

no problem man we start without knowledge of game just learn bit by bit

[spice talon]

so it was not a good idea when my combined CP was 2.1 mill and the others was near 3 mill. why thats not fair

[high stream]

xMaiden and Rosanna currently sitting aound 70k CP compared to my other Nikke which hover between 110k and 130k .. big CP loss there, no?

[lone sequoia]

even against rosanna "random" rng snipe

[tropic summit]

ye avoid those opponents, you stand no chance with deficit

[tulip quest]

sometimes when difference of cp too high enemy 1 shots u

[spice talon]

its BS because. they got me at 2.1 competeing with those guts just to move up 5 places. WHY?

on the leader board

[tropic summit]

don't bother investing yet, use other invested units and do what we mentioned earlier

[high stream]

Alright

[swift mango]

I mean we also have this kind of team recently

[brazen nova]

here my def team and i kinda clueless about last team, pls help 😭

[tropic summit]

s.anis is so back

[tulip quest]

How fast you level is Decided with Campaign, Hard campaign, your min maxing of core dust and credits and lastly REAL MONEY

[tropic summit]

remove all selected units and post your box with nikke ordered by strength, don't filter anything

[swift mango]

Not the most meta to play. PrivatyT still mainly combo with SWHA and not S.Anis.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-movies-rule-gmr

[tulip quest]

If you wish to level up faster you have to push Campaign and Hard Campaign faster

[lone sequoia]

i know about those teams, i don't like label and i was talking about og sp sanis stall

[tulip quest]

PVP in SPA starts there

[tropic summit]

moran biscuit s.anis?

[swift mango]

Don't like u say.

[lone sequoia]

noah/noise/biscuit/sanis/rapu

biscuit b2 was for atk

[brazen nova]

here my gang

[tropic summit]

oh wow i can almost smell the 2024 from that one

good times

[swift mango]

And he uses it for CA.

[tropic summit]

label is for go0ns like you

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

real gentlemen take arcana on a date

label you lock her in the basement and toss the key

[swift mango]

Like @umbral belfry truly a gentlemen

[umbral belfry]

i would do more than that don't lie

[swift mango]

[high stream]

How do these look? Bit unsure about T2 .. only way I can get 2.5 RL would be Centi in there .. and the fastest flex I have left then is DrakeT, since Rumani used in T3

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/scissors-gif-11511235885924031825

[lone sequoia]

re:zero rerun... i hope

[high stream]

yes please

[covert lintel]

2-10

[lone sequoia]

need a emi there or use laplace/xmaiden

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina rh helmt laplaceT
• moran noah siren biscuit swha
• jackal vestiTU blanc xmaiden lib

[tropic summit]

balance T1 and T3, move around helmT and use a different flex in T3

slow cindy can be from 3.5RL to 5RL

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

I told you @raven plover

[tropic summit]

pepega the legend

[lone sequoia]

we need more gambling frames

[raven plover]

wtf I won 5th

-6 credit boxes

[swift mango]

Why not show cheer %?

[lone sequoia]

too late probably

[high stream]

CP is 576K, 528K, 540K
Better?

[covert lintel]

Wdym
Your siren seal away his noah

[tropic summit]

@brazen nova min/maxing on positioning furthermore, just to reduce being countered by vestiTU, units are unchanged just ordering

[swift mango]

Soline did her purpose of existence here.

[brazen nova]

thank you so much !!!, from D1 back to P3 with that team

[raven plover]

team only win once on league up to top 32, must be bad

[lone sequoia]

is interesting how SU to kill 1unit, end up killing a weapon or element

soline was to counter scar... killed SGs... now label... kill half of cindy teams+ rosanna

[high stream]

https://klipy.com/gifs/soa-game-dev

[lone sequoia]

i'm sure one of the dev didn't knew how to counter rosanna and added the atk% in her kit

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 yes, T2 i don't really like now that i see it, weak to SG and to vesti a bit too much

recheck CP with these, logic sort of unchanged

[swift mango]

Idk if Soline designed to counter Scar. Too Farfetch here

[lone sequoia]

it is what it is, SGs and scar s2 are the only skills that can kill pre-burst that have low %dmg to proc soline skill, and for SG we already had better counters or ways to tank; soline too broken

[raven plover]

ok Im losing vs nerose

cus ros gonna snipe nayuta

[swift mango]

There is a stronger option than them, called Vesti.

[raven plover]

[lone sequoia]

vesti is like 30%+ per hit

[swift mango]

Vesti+Emi+SW
Or Vesti+Emma+Euhwa

[lone sequoia]

also... was vesti after the train event?

[swift mango]

Before

[raven plover]

no way fahren losing wtf, ok @torn obsidian win CA

[lone sequoia]

probably the best nero treasure will be elemental dmg reduction or immunity to the party or healers+ some extra DR

[swift mango]

SolineX still mainly counter SG because their pellets making one hit becoming 10. Scar s2 and Vesti, LapT, Emi are big hits that could down you from over the threshold easily.

SG got practically hard counter by Soline, not the other 2.

[lone sequoia]

yes

they failed to kill scar that time... then tried with label

[high stream]

I also just got my Sync all the way to 380 .. since its a big breakpoint and I'm stuck in almost all content, including Tower. My CP in Elysion for example is 10k lower than lowest clear on record .. so, now CP is: 626K, 589K, 616K .. which puts me on par with or stronger than everyone except the 5 strongest in this bracket.

[lone sequoia]

new chapters in 1 month

[tropic summit]

ye looks ok run with those for now

[high stream]

Alright. Let's see how fast they solve these ones. Can you explain to me why Noise P5 when she is P1 in most teams I see in CA and such? I'd like to understand. And what is Moran doing in T3 whe Rumani is bursting? Don't you want MoranTs burst for all the insane stats it gives? Or is she there just to taunt and die?

[swift mango]

Also, Label mainly counter Scarlet.

Rosa, you need a very specific team to half counter her.

Cindy, well, 2-2.5rl Cindy already out of meta before Label.

Label actually makes Slow Cindy stronger.

[tropic summit]

noise in p1 as the only B1 is weak to SG (bsoda + lappy eat her alive), or SG stacking in general, she can't survive 4 SG pre 2RL B1
T3 is just playing on the opponent not knowing how to take that team on, they need a strong nuker or a lib on 2RL

[lone sequoia]

imagine new scar is triple element or something like that

[cedar sorrel]

No I wont

[lone sequoia]

yep, half or the cindy teams and mainly electric+scar or rosanna, you can still dispel 1 attacker and nuke but label is just an atk tool

[swift mango]

Still, got countered by label if her man n Ele is elec.

[high stream]

Ah, gotcha. So preemptive defense. I heard the Noise P1 weakness a lot .. but gotta say, whenever I use Noise, Noah . . . on attack, that Noise never dies. So my instinct probablly went to "Noise P1 = stable".

[lone sequoia]

interesting...what about 1/2 vote and land the full dmg

[tropic summit]

showing the opponent you've noise in p1 as the only B1 should instantly trigger them dropping 4SGs against her, just don't do that

[high stream]

Gotcha, so it opens an immediate counter. All my SGs are unbuild .. I currently have ressources and even yellow books to 10 10 10 three whole Nikke .. but 3.5 coming up soon. So I feel I should stall .. unless my top 10 rank is actively threatened

[tropic summit]

i only need a broken fire code B3 and i'm happy

[swift mango]

Well, duo Ele like Rapipi is still a Fire units, anything written specifically nerf Fire dmg still nerf her. And Iron code units Dmg nerfing probably doesn't affect her.

[lone sequoia]

i think we are in the time that scar have her own blanc burst+ buff in her kit+ team buffer or something, she was a R unit and now should have a better body (pilgrim body)

[torn obsidian]

maybe not, team order not great against some top 8 players

[tropic summit]

finish any of these units if you didn't yet:

• liberalio
• SBS
• HelmT
• PrivT
• VestiTU
• SWHA
• MoranT
• jackal
• biscuit
• noah
• nayuta

[swift mango]

Rapipi and Vesti?

[tropic summit]

another RRH would be nice, or a SWHA that bathed in magma and became fire code i can settle with

[lone sequoia]

A2, still broken't but expensive

[high stream]

These are all built close to the max of my current single Nikke CP. My RRH is strongest. Most of my PvP Nikke hover around 130K .. IF they are fully built. But Biscuit for example is only 94K .. despite full OL, SR5 Doll, Cube equipped and 4 4 7 Skills.

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry who are you dating once the event starts and why is it Arcana

[umbral belfry]

i have 2 hands for both

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

but first is arcana obvs

[tropic summit]

smart girl.

https://klipy.com/gifs/gg-98

[high stream]

Original Arcana design or Alt design, which is prettier and why is it original?

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[high stream]

You lie and u know it

[umbral belfry]

it's both arcana that's all i gotta see

arcana sp's design is cuter but og arcana is (subtly)

[high stream]

Look at this and admit u're lying.

[crystal flicker]

Do you think Rosa should be P5 in SG comp?

[umbral belfry]

either way, arcana fans win

[crystal flicker]

I don't lke the original outfit, makes her looks to old

[tropic summit]

any spot that prevents her cloak from being popped

[umbral belfry]

@ mod

[crystal flicker]

My Rosa got cooked in P4 bcoz VesT comp

[umbral belfry]

[high stream]

I was actually sad Arcana was so "weak". Cause I like almost none of the Nikke designs .. a lot of them are just too much, or way too .. how do I say this .. "fetish coded"? So when a design released I really liked .. of course it's mehta at best.

[lone sequoia]

swha will hit rosanna, position don't matte

[lone sequoia]

rosanna comp? if CA rosanna p5 is fine

[crystal flicker]

If it's swha, she'll die from ele + crit anyway

[crystal flicker]

ye p5

since Nayuta P2

[crystal flicker]

You know I'm right

[swift mango]

P5 is fine in SpA as well. SW would still hit p4 even after dispelling Rosa and only hit her after p4 died.

[lone sequoia]

scar, rosanna or swha will hit your rosanna so p4 or p5 is the same, against vesti or emi p5 is better

[high stream]

Oh! Before I forget, cause you mentioned it @tropic summit and let me be .. polite here. Why the F#@&%$ is Mihara:BC suddenly PvP meta? I read her kit .. I don't get it. What exactly is she doing that is actually .. good. A slow rolling, sustain dmg, DoT Nikke .. i cant think of more labels at once that should not ever be in pvp.

[umbral belfry]

she looks nowhere near old 😭

[crystal flicker]

I said her outfit smh

[tropic summit]

she's a landmine and if you let her keep going after stepping on it she slowly kills off the enemy, as long as they don't have sustain

[umbral belfry]

i'm a meemaw i don't know how to read

[swift mango]

Against Vesti Absolute you want Rosa p4 if Nayuta p2. So your p5 B3 could burst and kill their team.

[high stream]

So .. she needs Noah or Blanc then? Cause even my MoranT gets oneshot by a Scarlet.

[crystal flicker]

Who even we use as P5 B3 in SG tho

[umbral belfry]

makes no differense if it's p5 rosa here. as long as nayu is p2

either or works

[tropic summit]

mihara combos with teams that can let her die then stall it out, blanc is the perfect example cuz you can't die for 10s after B2
nayuta serves similar purpose albeit more brief

[umbral belfry]

i run viper nayu bsoda drakeT rosa

[lone sequoia]

not sure, probably depends in the team or units, i have seen people killing p1~p4 before burst, and probably rosanna+nayuta can just kill trio if they have dmg

[swift mango]

Your p4 B3 could died before she burst and Rosa+Nayuta not strong enough to finish their team.

[high stream]

I see .. I was looking at these and genuinely wondering .. how any of these are not just instantly countered by a fast Nuke comp .. even without Blanc or Noah .. but if u wanted to be safe, u could use Noah or Blanc, just to make sure your nuke goes through 100%. What's preventing any of these teams from being completely oneshot wiped in seconds?

[crystal flicker]

You can see what the hell is that cloak, the boring white color w/o motive, and even worse it covers 100% of her feet

[umbral belfry]

from today

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[tropic summit]

you got it right, that's exactly the counter

[umbral belfry]

it's gonna be if nayu isn't in p2 though

[high stream]

Oh damn. Look at me learning and getting smarter

[tropic summit]

the benefit from running those teams is that you know enemy will need to play a 2RL team and use those resources they'd need against the other 2

[umbral belfry]

shh

[swift mango]

They weren't even strong enough to kill your B.Soda, Nayuta could as well be p3 and you still win.

[high stream]

Ah. That makes sense. Tie up important units against a team that doesnt look like it needs them on first glance

[umbral belfry]

tbf it's a max core full team

[lone sequoia]

the main problem is vesti dmg, i have seen max core vesti hitting like crow and other like cindy burst

[umbral belfry]

but this is my friend i fought. tbf the vesti was mid-ish i won't deny that

[tropic summit]

@high stream the objective of your defense team isn't winning but making your opponent trip and use the wrong cards

[umbral belfry]

but max core is max

[lone sequoia]

but still, if your rosanna have dmg, p5 should be better

[swift mango]

I guess bad investment. Core +7 doesn't do anything if your Vesti is full of hit rate.

[umbral belfry]

regardless from what my other guildies tell me who actually do use absolute, vs SGs (p2 nayu) it's regardless

[umbral belfry]

iirc his is 30-40% atk? can't check rn

[high stream]

Yes, we've conversed about this plenty like 2 weeks ago and since then, I'm happy to report that I've made huge strides in becoming the unbeaten Rank #8 in my bracket Until today, when I was fed up with that one guy ramming his head into my defenses until he wins. However .. still made me learn a lot more new stuff and new teams to use.

[lone sequoia]

recycling room diff...

[swift mango]

Well, I have seen p1-3-4 got killed then Nayuta+Rosa got stalled and lost before.
Just a matter of investment and Crit luck I guess.

[umbral belfry]

he's way above me 😭

i'm p sure p4/p5 rosa is fine vs trio as long as there's another b3 is my point

i can only attest to p5 though obvs

[lone sequoia]

i say that depends in vesti dmg and timing

[swift mango]

Yeah, it should be fine.

Even p4 Rosa and p5 drake did lose somehow anyway.

Drake nuke but still lose

I remember seeing that video.

[high stream]

Btw, do any of you guys have like a list of BayT teams? Ever since she got SS rank on Prydwen .. there are no teams showing her. Was wondering if I can use her for my atk or defense teams, but hard to learn .. since she has no comprehensive review either that is up to date with current meta.

But from what I think I understand .. she serves as staller and tank and is really hard to kill

[north brook]

for the most part she is worse noah

functions better at her job with biscuit invuln

[high stream]

yes, i heard that too .. but ive seen her used with noah together in CA teams. But a lot of CA teams are still quite hard for me to figure out

[swift mango]

Noise+Vesti+XMaiden+Bay+Jackal

Moran+Bay+Biscuit+Helm+SW

Moran+Bay+Biscuit+SW+Trina

Moran+Bay+SW+Emi+Trina

Moran+Bay+Privaty+SW+Label

[high stream]

Tyty

[lone sequoia]

depends in the uses you want from her, as a healer? tank? or weaker noah? the main use is just a unit that give some time to your team, 5~7seconds and die

[high stream]

Moran teams as well. I've been dying to use my Moran more ever since I boosted her to insane CP with Treasure

[lone sequoia]

moran is really strong alone, but bay can give her more time, something that moran likes (to stack DEF or wait for less dmg on the enemy team)

[swift mango]

Mostly Bay is used as

Moran+Bay
Or
Noise+Bay
Or
Biscuit+Bay

[lone sequoia]

i use her as flex in my DR team(healer and p5 tank)

[wintry viper]

what can beat this team?

[lone sequoia]

siren

[high stream]

Well, I've tried using her a lot recently with no effect. Mainly .. I build 2 ATK teams I'm 99,99% sure will win .. and then with the third team, I'm trying to have some fun .. but also learning. But so far .. I haven't managed to triple a single opponent that is on par with me in terms of CP .. Basically the entire top 30 in my bracket are insanely active and competitive .. and within the top 20, im defending against like 7 or 8 people

[swift mango]

You could use Moran+Nero+Bay but it's yank and not very good

[lone sequoia]

nero p1 in case someone use siren

[lone sequoia]

nero teams are not good after lib... even really weak against blanc or cindy b3

[swift mango]

Funny Siren is a detergent and people doesn't really win with her anymore but still could ruin your CA randomly

[lone sequoia]

well... the main problem was cindy bug, SU double cindy dmg

[high stream]

She's used a lot in my bracket. Almost everyone has a team with her on defense .. but I just run Noise, Noah into it

[lone sequoia]

yep, i noticed that less people use siren for the past 5~6 seasons, that is why i hated that my noah (no cs fix) was against a siren comp last time

[lone sequoia]

ATK is really easy and DEF doesn't have good options because the dmg some units have

[swift mango]

Vesti, SHWA, Libby. New hard counter.

Before, they already lose against

Cindy, Scarlet, Emi, ReiT randomly.

[lone sequoia]

no vesti, swha probably if buffer, but blanc is the important unit to reduce moran DR buff

[high stream]

But Siren on ATK only works if your opponent is .. for a lack of a better word .. dumb, no? Or at least not as well studied in pvp mechs.

[swift mango]

Well, right now

Nayuta+B.Soda also counter Nero.

[swift mango]

Vesti yes, enough investment and Ammo. She doesn't need anything but Blanc and 16+ ammo to kill Nero team at same investment.

[lone sequoia]

you have ways to play stun teams, depending on position, you can use soda if the enemy team have a taunt or attract

[lone sequoia]

"blanc" blanc+something is enough to counter DR, not vesti alone and trio dmg is weird

[high stream]

Hmm .. I see. From what I learned from Rail .. Siren mainly abuses the ignorance of an opponent. Like putting Blanc in P2 for example. But if their position is built to avoid stuns, can you actually force a stun or something? I've also heard from Retro that there is an interaction with PrivatyT and Siren .. that basically enables you to perma stun the enemy team until death, I tried using PrivatyT + Siren to that effect, but couldn't ever get it done.

[lone sequoia]

stun after stun, not much to think about it

[high stream]

Well, yeah. But at least I wasnt able to get it done

[lone sequoia]

privaty was a good way to waste enemy noah burst, but it will depend on who is the enemy b3 and if you can tank or match the speed

[swift mango]

Vesti alone how? She need to be in a team.

Moran+Noah+Vesti still win against Moran+Nero even easier.

[lone sequoia]

noah can block all the dmg, but it is 2RL?

you can make a team that counter another team and add random units

[swift mango]

Doesn't need to 2rl to win against Nero team.

[lone sequoia]

ok, what about helmT b3 against vesti?

[swift mango]

Moran Nero team is only 2.5rl, 2.5 Noah could block it easily

[lone sequoia]

even if moran take the snipe what about the dmg after noah burst?

i think for those teams are units more important than vesti as main dps

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Well, Vesti burst is strong she just needs one buff and enough investment to win against stalls. SW is stronger sure but Vesti good enough.

[gritty ridge]

Ill join your union zant, dont worry

[hollow lagoon]

I can feel it @umbral belfry bouta steal my kraken rocks today

[umbral belfry]

i am

[gritty ridge]

Ew

I forget hime is blue

[hollow lagoon]

Pink hime was sexier

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

the rizz

[hollow lagoon]

Blue hime cuter

[tropic summit]

playboy

[tropic summit]

siren found out you're rizzing other grills online

[hollow lagoon]

u know i just want the fish waifu

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/whyareyoublue-walterwhite-breakingbad-blue-jesse-gif-12242572209403578115

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/blue-da-ba-dee-1

[gritty ridge]

I think i sent that when I first noticed

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-3-3ZU5TLd37x2da

[umbral belfry]

my cat @ me sometimes

[lunar pawn]

Managed to miss all my cheers so far, will drop matchups later to gather opinions since I want the frame

[gritty ridge]

#pvp-arena message

[hollow lagoon]

u sure u wont get smitten by the mods with this?

[tropic summit]

I know @gritty ridge

[lone sequoia]

i thought you got those frames long ago, or are you playing for the imaginary frames?

[hollow lagoon]

hime is a cat person

[tropic summit]

she's about to kill you, i don't see anything that should be

[hollow lagoon]

she can kill me ill allow it

[gritty ridge]

She wouldnt even need her powers to tell me what to do

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Rail are you gonna miss me

[tropic summit]

meanwhile i'm looking for the sause

[tropic summit]

1 week is a short time, you fart and suddenly it's monday again

[lunar pawn]

Unlucky frame, never got it, always got 1 wrong and stopped trying for a long while until now

[hollow lagoon]

on no you dont, simp fish waifu is my job you go back to bready

[gritty ridge]

He wont miss me

[gritty ridge]

Alright alright

[wild hemlock]

your fault

[gritty ridge]

Bready and egg sandwich

[umbral belfry]

don't tell me you lost too

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pat-60

have a pat pookie

[gritty ridge]

My city got hit with a blizzard yesterday

[hollow lagoon]

my duties here are: Gaslight@tropic summit, Poke @umbral belfry for stealing muh kraken, SImp fish waifu

[tropic summit]

easy excuse to stay home and be unproductive, let's have one here too

[gritty ridge]

<@&1450788368702111765>

[umbral belfry]

[lone sequoia]

finally my time to get the steam? code

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/takumi-nishijou

[gritty ridge]

60+ mph winds, 8-12 inches of snow

[steel urchin]

thanks

[hollow lagoon]

got winds and snow today

[tropic summit]

easy money, 10/10 trust, also comes with a free pass to get your account hacked and stolen, stress free

[lone sequoia]

every online game store

[gritty ridge]

96 km/hr wind and 20-30 cm of snow for the non americans

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-theof-2

[gritty ridge]

I know yall dont know both

[tropic summit]

are we really that too, fk 2026 is a joke

[gritty ridge]

Im confused whats banned there

[hollow lagoon]

n@tural is a sin i guess

[wild hemlock]

Yeah I learned a valuable lesson on where to place helm in the Nay/Rh/Helm comp as I would have won otherwise but I was very confused why my Helm burst didn't target the solo enemy B3 until I realized

[gritty ridge]

Bay has big naturals

[lone sequoia]

time to make a p-rn game and call it railed academy in rails honor

[gritty ridge]

[umbral crown]

We all did

[hollow lagoon]

C@N

[gritty ridge]

Can I be in it

[swift mango]

Anyone else still in?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/akebi-chan-smirk

[lone sequoia]

ask rail, is his academy

[umbral crown]

Cn people

[umbral belfry]

@wild hemlock oh my god man STOPPPP MAKING US LOSEEEE TOGETHERRR

[umbral belfry]

take this

[tropic summit]

you, it's all on you

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

careful, some may like it in this chat, like a man that starts with K and ends with Ara

[wild hemlock]

you lost first I wasn't awake yet, your fault

[lone sequoia]

those pie union are something else

[umbral belfry]

@glad meteor

[swift mango]

No CN in my CA.
Bottom right looks like CN or Korean name, I guess

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime-girl-running

[umbral belfry]

yeah well at least i lost to a fellow friend and pie member

[lone sequoia]

you are the cn

[umbral belfry]

i pie sacc'd for a fellow pie. i have to regrets

[umbral crown]

In global all you see its asia all over the place

[lone sequoia]

playing with "cn teams"

[swift mango]

It's @hollow lagoon

[tropic summit]

yeah she still needs to get rid of the habit, but then again they say the shy/chill girls are big perverts so arcana might actually..?

[swift mango]

Yeah, I missed it.

Is it CN or Korean letters?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stranger-things-fire-1

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/friends-reactiongifs-time-11ykUODgXjAXZu

[umbral belfry]

also that's what you get for putting helm p2 so she gets taunted you knew better

[lone sequoia]

pink hair a warning, chill or shy a b-tch

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tomodachi-no-imouto-ga-ore-ni-dake-uzai-my-friends-little-sister-has-it-in-for-me-12

[wild hemlock]

No I didn't actually I saw previous Champs with Helm p2 or p3

[hollow lagoon]

helm taunts me regardless

[swift mango]

CN is inside Global.

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

and you decided to play follow-the-leader and got booped bc of it

[gritty ridge]

Hime ill be back next season btw

[umbral belfry]

now look at us. out in top 16 again

[gritty ridge]

I could spend the rest of the season in 5th and still be in CA

[umbral belfry]

OHHHHH BROTHERRRRRRRRRR

[gritty ridge]

I didnt even say anything

[lone sequoia]

cn is around the world, probably most of the jp whales are cn

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

I wont be around for it so Ill need someone to help oli bet

[tropic summit]

cn also happens to love spending money on gacha games to get advantages

[umbral belfry]

inside

[tropic summit]

[wild hemlock]

I didn't full copy any champs setup. Was a mix of a couple. I think next CA I know what the play is trust the process

[umbral belfry]

ok bye bye now @wild hemlock

[gritty ridge]

Damn, ignored by hime

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

She hates me

[lone sequoia]

i fight a cn mafia here, rosy fight in global

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

just go on vacation already

[gritty ridge]

Alright Alright

[tropic summit]

meet some hottie (possibly a woman), get laid, enjoy vacation, come back and join the grind again

[umbral crown]

With 21 days off from the game

[tropic summit]

he gon' be brick, but he laid down a plan from what i heard

[umbral crown]

Waos

[umbral belfry]

pls don't lose in pools next ca bc that means i also lose in pools

[tropic summit]

somehow he'll be able to play the game while not playing the game

clearly i don't know how

must be wizardry

[wild hemlock]

I win CA next season trust

[lone sequoia]

10minutes bathroom stop

[tropic summit]

just like keripo

[lone sequoia]

not sure what people do in the toilet but i don't go with my phone

[tropic summit]

the second one out of context sounds a tad wrong

love it, put a pg13 family friendly picture from Nikke in chat gpt and i get this

[hollow lagoon]

are u rock farmed by @umbral belfry

[gritty ridge]

No

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

[lone sequoia]

a blessing

[hollow lagoon]

she prob dont hate u

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doro-dorothy-3

[gritty ridge]

She just ignore me

[tropic summit]

she did reply to you

[hollow lagoon]

slavery or irreverence pick your poison

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

Bigboi ignored hime

[tropic summit]

a bigboi, a tinyself

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tricked-deceived-betrayed-deception-oh-the-deception-gif-5540567

[tropic summit]

time to be productive in these last 30 minutes and do something

shift over soon

[umbral crown]

Goes to take a nap

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Productive things

[swift mango]

My gemmer doesn't gem anymore

[gritty ridge]

High ammo indom scar

[swift mango]

I think I may have to put bad team for SpA for him to hit me.