pvp-arena

[mystic rain]

oh if its helm burrst on enemy team but indom on snow that might even be worse cuz snow would have lifesteal per shot

[runic coral]

moran noah bisc helm swha loses here

[tight finch]

can just run moran/noah/helm / x/x and prob just facetank entire indom

feed moran

[mystic rain]

urr moran died to snow?

with bisc?

[runic coral]

nah my helm swha died

[mystic rain]

hows the deficit

[runic coral]

I have higher cp

[tight finch]

moran/noah/helm/trina/maiden moran just solo then

surely

[mystic rain]

or run 3RL blanc vesti

[runic coral]

smth like this?

[mystic rain]

more like jackal blanc vesti bisc ada

well as long as ur indom doesnt go to bisc then that works

[runic coral]

I'll try your suggestion

[humble tiger]

Idk anymore.

This SPA is very chaotic ngl.

Everyone's attacking each other.

[runic coral]

vesti died but ada wiped everyone lol 🤧

[mystic rain]

indom went to ada?

well that works too

[tight finch]

lb0 ada

[mystic rain]

ada good indom

[tight finch]

feels so 🧱

My ada always steal indom

[mystic rain]

just give her vigor

or r ur other units c7 compared to ada lb0

[finite scarab]

my initial impressions at cindy was she's blasting through mobs.
i should aim for RRH or SWHA only?

[shell hazel]

you'd need vigor on ada for sure

[tight finch]

vesti on c1 atm, its also 🧱 my ein/takina comp
collab spare bodies when

[runic coral]

sent a screenie above, most units core1 and below, ada being lb0

but as long as I win it doesn't really matter to me who gets indom in this case haha

[shell hazel]

Cindy is fine, there are definitely worse starts than Cindy

if you wanted to just crack on I wouldn't worry too much, just push with Cindy

if you wanted to get the absolute best roll the anni is the best time to do it

[finite scarab]

i am very inclined to settle. im not a very enjoyer of pvp

yeah ill maybe try 10 accounts on half anni MAX

[shell hazel]

main reason to re-roll is for pvp though

[mystic rain]

why is bro in pvp channel then

[shell hazel]

if you're going to do that I'd not bother with this one, you should be able to 100% get the main anni unit then

but for re-roll you still need to be pushing content to stay reasonable in pvp

[finite scarab]

sry i will take my leave

[shell hazel]

it's fine

just roll on anni for best start in any case

or stick with cindy and focus this one, I would not roll again at anni unless you're really up for it lol

cindy not really meta in either mode anymore, though decent in both

[finite scarab]

half-anni unit/rrh/swha for the start?

[mystic rain]

pray half anni neon or anis will be the crown killer

then u wont need to roll for crown

dps in campaign pushing is honestly whoever fits but ur supports r always the same

[shell hazel]

yes - I'd say you want one high value unit to kick off with

2 is even better but you should also get more pulls per roll

and pray for a moran because she's a fantastic campaign carry when treasured

if you get a copy of her you can silver mileage the others you need

[lunar pawn]

Moran ftw

@shell hazel btw didn't find an altair figure but I'm unboxing a nobu figure later, reminded me of her

[shell hazel]

oh cool, I didn't know who Nobu was. Fate Grand Order the game (or was there an anime?)

[lunar pawn]

Game, she's probably in one of the animes too

[shell hazel]

game looked a bit too involved for me to start on it lol

was already like 10 years in at this point

[lunar pawn]

JP had its 10th year anni last year, English version is 2 years behind

[crystal flicker]

Isn't Nobu that one BNHA Venom

It's also reminds me... I used to have Altair on my wishlist

[lunar pawn]

The what

[crystal flicker]

Oh Nomu

[lunar pawn]

Idk that anime

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/my-hero-academia-anime-sakuga-boku-no-hero-academia-all-might-gif-21504724

[shell hazel]

it's from my hero academia

[lunar pawn]

[finite scarab]

[shell hazel]

that is not crown

mana - pretty useless
e.h - also pretty useless

I think both are OK but investment sinks

mana would mainly work as flex healer here

[swift mango]

"NEW"?

[crystal flicker]

The real issue is WHY PULL EH BANNER

[swift mango]

why not?

[hollow lagoon]

Mana still useful (in bed)

[forest oar]

I didn’t change anything in my team, or lvls or ocs so how tf is this guy losing his atks now. Brain damage?

[shell hazel]

maybe just testing teams

it's rookie so

[obtuse dagger]

sometimes i waste my free attack like that too just to test

[forest oar]

damn. He is weirdly sweaty about rookie with the whole atk before reset thing

[shell hazel]

yeah some people just like to feel superior lol

I'm the strongest in my rookie but I'm not always top

[lunar pawn]

You did not read my name

[swift mango]

I think my first union in this game was also named Yorha. But it's SEA.

[swift mango]

Crown, Nayuta, RRH, SWHA are the 4 you want get in a reroll account currently.

[swift mango]

Not like takina needs dupes

[swift mango]

Doppel is not good, skip?

[tropic summit]

you and @keen vapor have grown up... a job... a family... a house...

we tried this already, can't even kill noah p1 or soda p2 with scar vesti, give up

they gonna need to try hard to make it better than last one

gotta meme hard

[warm monolith]

Whats the ost of crystal chamber

[strong hull]

Except family i already have all

[tropic summit]

yeah you can keep trying i've given up on that one

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

[oak smelt]

Is there some weird interaction here? I can consistently stun vesti using my Soda which is odd.

[tropic summit]

vestiTU does not taunt, but noah sure does

[oak smelt]

Yes, that is what i was wondering

[tropic summit]

noah will be 100% stunned, other target unless taunted should be random

[oak smelt]

Thats odd, i tried twice and i managed to stun vesti both times. Let me try again later

[tropic summit]

well it's 50% chance divided for the other 4 targets

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-cat-cat-lazy-stairs-slide-gif-12601928359257518609

[gritty ridge]

My work is closed cuz of blizzard

[hollow lagoon]

need me people for union

[tropic summit]

so you're not getting paid and will end up under a bridge, no more bready skins to afford

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/mocha-lazy-gif-6192833376101319950

[gritty ridge]

Im skipping priv skin at least

[tropic summit]

but her panties are showing

[gritty ridge]

Glasses

Yucky

[hollow lagoon]

do you think i can try to yoink for my union@warm monolith

[tropic summit]

they're trying so hard to motivate g0ons in buying it

[warm monolith]

Whats up?

[tulip quest]

You can have Mallmart Privaty Instead Free

[tropic summit]

you need a new union i heard, join zant, i heard he can lock you in the basemen with bayT and you can then do anything you want to her

[gritty ridge]

I prefer every other skins she has to this one purely because of the glasses

[hollow lagoon]

are yu interested in slavery?

[tulip quest]

Out of character for Privaty to be honest

[gritty ridge]

Privaty is already miku at home

[tropic summit]

kinda, but you know their marketing and lore are kinda detached from each others

[tulip quest]

Shhhhh you can't say that bruh we're at Nikke

[warm monolith]

Uh, i dont remember saying that, i also have my own union, where we are decent enough, not over the top but enough. (Also she my wife bro)

[gritty ridge]

Join my union

[tropic summit]

nope @hollow lagoon aint yoinking this one, he's already committed

[hollow lagoon]

ill take your entire union

[tulip quest]

Yea Lorewise I cannot Imagine her being That shy to spoke those words seductively

[warm monolith]

[tulip quest]

let's have private lesson commander

[warm monolith]

Im loyal to my union and my wife, sorry

[hollow lagoon]

i mean it

[oak smelt]

Yeah, i just got lucky just now. Twice in a row i stun vestiTU while testing.
I thought there was a quirk targeting with taunting units with stun and the unit to the right will be subsequently targeted despite it being random in the kit.

[tropic summit]

ye also kinda a huge leap even if we are to dismiss it as "character growth"

[keen vapor]

Thien no longer MA

[tropic summit]

MA going through a revolution this week

[swift mango]

good for him, He isn't poop colored no more

[tulip quest]

Yea it just doesn't fit the Character I'd understand if Character like Velvet

[hollow lagoon]

what even is poop color

[tropic summit]

ye makes sense, working as intended at least

[tropic summit]

generally a shade of brown

[hollow lagoon]

that's just me but like a couple months ago then

[tropic summit]

in some rare cases depending on the person health it can be green or black too

[tulip quest]

5 costumes btw

[warm monolith]

Hey rail where you were from?

[swift mango]

red as well

[hollow lagoon]

italiano

[tulip quest]

at least can they put Surface right? I don't even care if it's forever beta like C.A

[tropic summit]

Earth

[warm monolith]

Wait fr?

[tulip quest]

they can make this 5 costumes but not Surface mode hmmmm

[hollow lagoon]

is why i want him lel

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

i have a single italian in my union and he calls me racist

[warm monolith]

You italian too?

[hollow lagoon]

he wants companion

[tulip quest]

Wut

[warm monolith]

Oh so thats the reason youre trying to recruit me too

[hollow lagoon]

i'm born chinese my mom has australian+canadian citizenship take a guess

[oak smelt]

Its much easier creating new skins than completely reworking surface from scratch

[tropic summit]

zant has asian blood flowing in his veins

[tulip quest]

they can just put as Beta

[warm monolith]

Youre from where youre born in my opinion, so chinese id say

[hollow lagoon]

ill take your entire union, i have 2, stronker people go union 1 weaker people go union 2, and if you are crazye enuff ill start union 3

[swift mango]

Rail birth place

[tulip quest]

people don't really care much for it's finished version I mean LOOK AT C.A people have fun with it's BETA VERSION

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rock-and-stone-deep-rock-galactic

[hollow lagoon]

nope canadian, china dont welcome me much

[warm monolith]

There are total of 7-8 turk playing nikke regularly me included, and everyone is in my union

[tulip quest]

just repatch Nikke put it back bam not much effort

[torn obsidian]

we're not having fun 😠

[warm monolith]

You dont have a citizenship?

[hollow lagoon]

if u wanna be canadian china destroys your chinese citizenship

so it is

[gritty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-just-a-boulder-its-a-rock-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-hug-gif-17867157

[tulip quest]

My bad top 1-3 having FUN in CA then

Surface every1 can play tho I dunno why they can't just let it be version Beta

[warm monolith]

[gritty ridge]

I dont want surface back

[hollow lagoon]

ill take them all

[gritty ridge]

Keep it gone forever

[tulip quest]

why just open it once a week Like I do

[gritty ridge]

I would pay rocks to keep it gone permanently

[hollow lagoon]

i want surface back i need rocks

[tulip quest]

same

I just open it like Once a week

[warm monolith]

Add a turkish language option on the game and watch the ppl start playing

[tulip quest]

and I worked hard for like 4 hours and got 60 rocks at the quest

well worth it for me

[gritty ridge]

I hated every aspect of surface

[hollow lagoon]

ill make a turkish channel in the discord server

[oak smelt]

They can just put the rocks reward in the daily missions, problem solved without the chore

[shell hazel]

it's "you're never giving up" I think 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt hate surface mode

[tulip quest]

just ignoring it also is an option

[gritty ridge]

I did that

I ignored it after clearing the mode

Ill be damned if I increase my daily times

[tulip quest]

just once a week for me

[gritty ridge]

Still more time

[warm monolith]

Ye :D

[tulip quest]

after finishing the mode

[gritty ridge]

More time once a week is too much

[warm monolith]

Theres already a fan discord server

[gritty ridge]

The goal of nikke is to play nikke as little as possible

[shell hazel]

we being invaded by the Ottomans? I played enough Byzantium starts in EU4 to know how that goes

[oak smelt]

I don't hate it too just that the novelty wears off once you seen it one time.
After that its just rinse and repeat the same thing for rewards.

[warm monolith]

We will take care of you

[shell hazel]

[tulip quest]

I guess cause it's Idle game, but some like zant n me having fun pushing HC at deficit tho

and more rocks for us kinda welcoming

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jojo-darby-1

[tulip quest]

black CS lines 1% waiting for us

[gritty ridge]

I wanna first try every high deficit clear

[gritty ridge]

You mean the defense tier 1 lines

[tulip quest]

at least it's not RL hit rate

[gritty ridge]

Theyre gonna make a sg rl where it matters

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge to be specific the goal of nikke:

• give enough motivation to make people spend
• make the game as less burnout/chore as possible, so you can retain your player base

Nikke is a great working business model and product, cuz it has achieved the above

[gritty ridge]

Make glasses toggleable and ill spend 60 more dollars

[tulip quest]

I kinda stayed cause story is peak

[shell hazel]

how is your current union? we need more people to smash stuff with

[warm monolith]

Im not coming

[shell hazel]

[warm monolith]

I dont abandon my homies

[tropic summit]

i heard they've particular costumes for bayT

it's your only chance to see those

[warm monolith]

For example look at rail, he helped me the time i just started so i dont leave him alone now, also retro but he retired :(

[shell hazel]

is yours competitive? we doing a casual 2nd union so depends how competitive it is :p

[warm monolith]

No, we just casual gamers

[shell hazel]

the casual side would just be aiming for day 1 clear

and if people wanted to move to union 1 for trying harder they could if they got enough sync etc, that was the idea anyway

but if they want to stay casual they can just stay there

[crystal flicker]

It's him again isn't

[shell hazel]

yeah blanc/moran guy again lol

https://tenor.com/view/bored-bore-boring-boring-day-bored-kid-gif-27532765

[arctic jewel]

@shell hazel As expected haha

[bold trout]

What lines for Jackal

[shell hazel]

hey you won a match! 😄

but yep sasuga

[arctic jewel]

Lmao, the most silent yaaay

[warm monolith]

Were just doing okay for real man 🙂

[tropic summit]

CS%, rest are optional, you coud aim for atk% and ammo

[tropic summit]

your main union is full already ye? or you still looking for fresh meat?

if you found everyone around your or zant's tier you could srsly be top 100

[shell hazel]

got a spot or so for main one

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/meat-slap-that-meat-salt-bae-gif-7897765

[unreal dawn]

help me pls, can you help me build a pvp team

[shell hazel]

union 2 needs more people though, but is just casualing around

[tropic summit]

damn that's a lot of cultists already

[shell hazel]

invite open to anyone who wants to join us as well btw, either casual day 1 clear or going for top 100 with our main union - we need good players for either 🙂

[unreal dawn]

i also have 600 gold tickets, should i exchange centi by spending 200 tickets?

[shell hazel]

centi for gold tickets = no from me I think

silver mileage dupes for moran to get her to 2LB and treasure

[unreal dawn]

oki

[swift mango]

Top 10 even, the 2 of them average 50b+. So 32 of them 1600b

[crystal flicker]

Moran first

[unreal dawn]

oki

[tropic summit]

ye wouldn't be unreasonable

[unreal dawn]

Can you suggest a PvP lineup for me?

[shell hazel]

not in global, much harder top 10 in global

this is our sheet, don't think zanta mind me posting it he does sometimes anyway

[tropic summit]

if you had only strictly players that can consistently score between this lad, TAV, score and Zant, you'd be easily top 10-20 range me thinks

[shell hazel]

hard to find players though, good ones anyway

[unreal dawn]

i don't know who i should invest with:((

[shell hazel]

do you have silver mileage?

don't gold ticket centi, your trina isn't even built and arguably she does the same job/better than centi does

[unreal dawn]

not much

[shell hazel]

plenty

[crystal flicker]

Best I can do is 5B x 3

[shell hazel]

you got moran at lb0, use 400 silver for 2 more morans

[unreal dawn]

I started playing this game last year on the anniversary; I've only been playing for 5 months.

[swift mango]

Eh, global top 10 is still 1600-1800b no? Should be just right. NA top 10 is the one above 2000b

[unreal dawn]

i will try to get her treasure ASAP

but i don't have a line up for pvp

[unreal dawn]

i just simply random bllsht go :(((

[shell hazel]

and campaign meta too

[crystal flicker]

I use her for 35% deficit on Crystal Chamber

[swift mango]

Done for today

[shell hazel]

you got some good units but I can't cook you full teams atm sorry - still I say get that moran treasure and max her asap

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Will I finally win against him or continue the curse and lose for the 4th time?

[tropic summit]

you already know what you've to do to win

trust the process

[unreal dawn]

where should i place moran ?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/summoning-gif-16806659066271167689

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit arcana vs privity who to girl friend in the new event

[tropic summit]

that's a damn hard choice, but i'm a privaty starter so i'm biased in the decision

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-road-to-el-dorado-both

[hollow lagoon]

you would make a great cultist too bad ur in different universe

[shell hazel]

we just need to isekai him

[unreal dawn]

is there anywhere i can look up for the best line up in pvp?

[hollow lagoon]

aint gonna be my call dis time, prob going privity since we basically waifued arcana in her base form anyway

[hollow lagoon]

kinda experiment and learn mechanics and develop your own sets based on how your bracket works

[unreal dawn]

can i see your team building to copy

[crystal flicker]

Your best (need investment) are
Scarlet Trina (Not favored for Def)
SWHA Blanc
Moran Bay
Nayuta RH

SG also should be ok if you really into PvP and feed Rosa tons of rocks

[tropic summit]

the next MA

[unreal dawn]

Scarlet Trina and Moran Bay are currently in progress

The remaining characters have had their skills upgraded to the maximum level.

[unreal dawn]

i need a team for DEF

[tropic summit]

you could've been SEA too now that i think 'bout it

[hollow lagoon]

[unreal dawn]

i can get to top 1, but i alway get kick out in the next day

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

This my screentime for last year, now it's your task

[shell hazel]

maybe but we need more good people to throw into the fight 😄

[tropic summit]

where you getting this

[unreal dawn]

can you help me to build a def team ?

[tropic summit]

also that's a lot of time spent on studio paint

[crystal flicker]

You better deal with your investment first tbh

[unreal dawn]

i will organise a team first, and then i will do the investment

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[crystal flicker]

https://github.com/ActivityWatch/activitywatch

[hollow lagoon]

Menu C

[lusty gull]

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit do I roll the 12/12 4 atk 8 crit rosa

[unreal dawn]

Because building a team takes a lot of time, and I'm prioritizing my main team to get through chapter 32-33

[gritty ridge]

I thought id do the same thing, it doesnt work. Meta changes monthly

[unreal dawn]

should i go for the main team to get over chapter 32, or i should spent time to build team for PVP?

[crystal flicker]

You ain't gonna beat Mirror without Ein at deficit

[gritty ridge]

Clear campaign then work on pvp

[shell hazel]

prioritise campaign anyway

[unreal dawn]

i am at 355k CP now

might get to 400 next month

[gritty ridge]

Yeah huh

Just use cindy hypercarry

[tropic summit]

run these until you fix your pvp core units

SP arena

• nayuta helmt noir rh centi
• moran SWHA bay biscuit lib
• jackal siren cindy blanc vestiTU

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/animation-loop-blue-26ufbhAiPrAlyvY4g

[crystal flicker]

I've been stuck on my art lesson

[unreal dawn]

oki i will

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/katniss-everdeen-tribute

[unreal dawn]

it gonna take a lot of timeeeeeeee

[crystal flicker]

Slipper says Hi

[tropic summit]

remember us when you become famous

also share any of thoes doujinshi you drawing

[gritty ridge]

Kill it before slippers phase lol

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/onechicago-nbc-one-chicago-med-ekLh0k72K6GigUja6V

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I did

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sacrifice-shrek

[gritty ridge]

I was even in top 10 lowest clears

[tropic summit]

he doesn't have the CP for this but nice try

[hollow lagoon]

i has very small deficit and container evaoperated before i got to phase 2

[crystal flicker]

If I ever finish those I will

[unreal dawn]

Is there a way to increase CP besides leveling up, and which stats on equipment will help increase CP?

[hollow lagoon]

that's what i do now days slap a menu if they then question it, and then i answer: ask whale question get whale answer

[fair pivot]

You can use SW burst to break the slippers. I had her and Cindy as DPS and both are good for pvp so no wasted invest

[noble python]

Can someone remind me when you see the vs Screen in SPA which of their units is the P1?

[tropic summit]

8 crit? gambleroni uh

i'd take a 40%atk 40-60%ele ros over a RNG rosa... but the RNG rosa will allow you to 1hitko full HP nikke so that's a plus if you going for CA

[unreal dawn]

oki thank for your advice

[tropic summit]

left from right, they're inverted only after you enter battle

[gritty ridge]

Yeap

[swift mango]

Older account and more research is pointless if you don't have the investment. My Vesti alone still killed scarlet before burst.

[unreal dawn]

Is there a way to increase CP besides leveling up, and which stats on equipment will help increase CP?

[upper grove]

Mecha burning gum

[gritty ridge]

My mirror clear btw

[hollow lagoon]

i wonder if my opponents wisen up enough to hit me in rookie yet

[tropic summit]

in a few years

[gritty ridge]

Mirror was so long ago that I get to fight it again soon lmao

[unreal dawn]

dame bro, That's impressive.

[hollow lagoon]

Chapter 34 on 461 sync

[tropic summit]

what does his bio say

[hollow lagoon]

well i guess they did it like 8-10 months after me idk

[unreal dawn]

i dont have crown and mast maid :(((((

[tulip quest]

I think they're just memeing I got 1 guy attack me just so he can drop rank 30 in rookie

[noble python]

So in this team Siren is P1 yes?

[tulip quest]

and I can't attack him anymore

[tropic summit]

ye that's a p1 siren

[shell hazel]

it's doable I cleared MC at 461 but was close, guy in my SPA cleared it 450 ish lol

[gritty ridge]

Oh thats rough for pve in general

[hollow lagoon]

gibberish thingym but something about protecting su's bases

[tropic summit]

[crystal flicker]

It's doable witht the LINES

[hollow lagoon]

crown mast tech aint even popular back then, but my cindy was worse than she is now even tho i'm still 3 atk 3 ele

[noble python]

Ok ty Rail I just forgor how it was ordered

[unreal dawn]

that why i keep 600 gold tickets, hope a day crown rerun:((

[shell hazel]

if someone clear MC at 461 it's near top 5% of malders prob though lol

[swift mango]

My Moran finally can burst.

[unreal dawn]

i only need noah and centi, then my pvp collection dream team will be finíhed

[hollow lagoon]

my problem is the doing 1 damage thing when the whatever phase happens, maybe could hav done it if went mast but oh welll

[crystal flicker]

My PvE comp barely reaching 900K at 450

[tropic summit]

you've a few approaches here:

• SG spam to kill both siren and rapunzel pre burst (4 clip SG + ros)
• scar + vesti + trina will obliterate p1 and p2, also kill SG in p5
• moran + anchor, enemy is glass cannon, you just gotta get to burst and they lack lethal if you HP stack + DR
• slow cindy (3RL-ish is fine), keep in mind your p1 will be stunned so have a spare B2 in case

[gritty ridge]

Lemme clear at 401 pls

[tropic summit]

not so slow cindy vs helmT main B3, playing easy mode today

[shell hazel]

I'm just searching my book of spells for the one which makes that possible

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-your-best-anime

[gritty ridge]

New B2 that buffs true dmg 90000%

[unreal dawn]

is this guy a hacker ?

he only have sync 249

[shell hazel]

might be a degen

[tropic summit]

lmao the username

[upper grove]

Certified degenerate

[tropic summit]

i thought nikke had censor on the words you can use for your ingame username

[gaunt pulsar]

ch35 for 249 is fine if he has all the units required, he can reach ch36 boss even

[gritty ridge]

Whats suspicious of hacking?

[gritty ridge]

I cleared 36 lower than that iirc

Maybe

Lemme check

[unreal dawn]

do you have a team to go that far?

[swift mango]

Well, the important thing is my Moran finally can burst.

Looks at my smol scarlet couldn't even kill 2.5rl Moran. I guess I know why whale all use 2.5rl Moran in Jpn.

[unreal dawn]

since i see that everyone still stuck at chapter 32

[gaunt pulsar]

before morant black snake on ~240ish is pretty hard, it's was like lowest sync possible there

[gritty ridge]

254, my b

[gaunt pulsar]

depends where you are right now

[gritty ridge]

I could've cleared lower had i knew the tech

I was still lowest sync snake by far tho

And also lowest clear by far

[gaunt pulsar]

with moran nowadays should be so much easier doable

[tropic summit]

ye but that's what i told you about when i said scarlet may not kill moran, this is what i feared

if it wasn't for invest/research diff it would be far more reliably countering that shiet

[gritty ridge]

I used to be so good at pve

Now im just mid

[crystal flicker]

fr

[tropic summit]

become a fellow shooting range main

[shell hazel]

not cheating if they malding, maybe even easier now

this was mine

[gritty ridge]

Wtf is that team hippo

[shell hazel]

best I had at the time lol

[unreal dawn]

this guy is top 2, and the top 1 guy only at chapter 32 like me

[tropic summit]

he didn't embrace maldin' fully yet back then

[unreal dawn]

i check all 10 player in pvp, and they all stuck at chapter 32

[tropic summit]

see how little cores he has on crown and RH

[shell hazel]

well it was before we had siren, before sw etc

[unreal dawn]

so i think he hack, or he just super lucky

[shell hazel]

my RH only LB1 now lol D:

[swift mango]

You don't need to kill Moran withs scarlet wipe but you want to kill the burst 3. In my case I killed the attacker easily but not the defender

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anya-forger-spy-x-family-26

[gritty ridge]

Nah, pvp mains normally suck at pve

[upper grove]

All those new players smh

[tropic summit]

that's the problemo

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-nikke-gif-2466142649033494439

[tropic summit]

you can kill the attacker but whel moran can still solo

[unreal dawn]

i dont have crown, i hate this :((((((

[gritty ridge]

Somebody @ rosy for me

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown don't be lazy @gritty ridge

[gritty ridge]

I forgor the name

[tropic summit]

excuses

[shell hazel]

crown will one day just appear when you least expect it

[tropic summit]

rosy only changes name every 1 or 2 weeks

[gritty ridge]

Wanted rosy as an example of pvp main pve progression

[gaunt pulsar]

mirror container is a wall for many players, but you can very much push through it at 221ish sync, ch34 boss is also a wall but if you have helmT and all required dps units you can do it, it's just very annoyingly precise to do

[unreal dawn]

i can simply give up pvp for 2 months and oly focus on pve, should i tryhard to get to chapter 35, then i will invest in pvp ?

[swift mango]

Not the problem when you fight Moran+SW+Helm, they don't have XMaiden to tank you or Nayuta to add dmg as well.

[gritty ridge]

221 is abt the lowest for mc, and 241 can clear up to glut iirc

[tropic summit]

you're already keeping ch1-ch4 range no? think your pvp can wait

[gritty ridge]

241 snake was already possible before moran, moran just makes it easier

I just didnt wanna do it lmao

[unreal dawn]

i am at ch3-ch6, so i should focus on pvp?

or pve?

[tropic summit]

ch3-ch6 is already very good, focus on pve

[unreal dawn]

oki

[tropic summit]

ch1-ch2 is whel territory, ch3 is cope for dolphin/f2p

[gritty ridge]

Indeed

[fair pivot]

more campaign progress = more core dust = more levels in the long run (whales don't apply)

[unreal dawn]

try to reach from 355CP to 400CP in 4 weeks

[gritty ridge]

You can mess around and bully the whales tho, thats always fun

[tropic summit]

and ch4 is the jungle

[gritty ridge]

I hate the jungle, thats why I took c3

[tame vessel]

whats jg even mean

[gritty ridge]

Im chilling up here, its great

[unreal dawn]

i have been kick this guy to ch6 everyday so it seem fun though :)))

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

rosy is lower end of progression for pve for sure

I was maining campaign/pvp for about a year and was pushing fairly well on pve

a lot of my resources went to pvp

[unreal dawn]

or he is a smurf?

[tropic summit]

rosy actively doesn't even clear normal chapters

[shell hazel]

rosy also autos only most of the time

[tropic summit]

he's just made of something else

[unreal dawn]

and is this guy a whale ? he have 12 costumes

[gaunt pulsar]

that's a light spender

[glad meteor]

His bracket are big noobs

If we did that. We wouldn’t even make ca

Hes being sync diffed but enemy still losing

[worthy knoll]

Same, I also auto most of my Hard mode, except during bosses.. though I still haven't tried 44 hard boss still again, not like I'm in a rush to clear it

[unreal dawn]

that like 60$ a month, he seem to have more money than me :)))

[swift mango]

Unique case doesn't make good example.

Rail is just right for an example.

Strive to be like him.

[tropic summit]

i thought it was rosy outskilling his opponent

[swift mango]

Month 1 players could auto everything now unless very extremely bricked.

[gritty ridge]

Rosy is the average player

[tropic summit]

i don't think i can CP dif any of the top 4, but the top 6 i can start diffing at least

[noble python]

I’m at chapter 37 lol

And I’m also a light spender

[gritty ridge]

I used the wrong clueless

[swift mango]

For campaign yeah. Average player would bricked themselves in campaign and not making it for Arena. But Rosy made it for Arena.

[unreal dawn]

so i need 2 months to get moran too treasure huh?

that so longgggggggg

[tropic summit]

he's trying his bestest don't judge

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/baccano-claire-claire-stanfield-anime-redhead-gif-21635832

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/baccano-rail-tracer

[strong hull]

You tell me

[unreal dawn]

can we speed up the progress?

[worthy knoll]

My team for fire weak campaign back then

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[tropic summit]

damn i'm so used to not receive compliments from Blood that i genuily had to read it twice @shell hazel

tomorrow it's gonna snow

[unreal dawn]

any other way?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-1748499123257475241

[unreal dawn]

without spending :)))

[gaunt pulsar]

you can exchange helmT materials to moran ones if you have helmT, and to get them you can go to museum, actually any treasure materials you have excess off

[shell hazel]

you could assassinate them in rl?

the competition

[tropic summit]

hack their account, close it, celebrate

[strong hull]

I saw that viperT highest cp of all

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/koro-korosensei-assassination-classroom-gif-5506340

[glad meteor]

@umbral crown wiej boy just not cooking right. He need belt

[swift mango]

I mean you are just right an example for PvP main campaign progression. Not as good as Hippo or Zant.

[noble python]

Just please don’t get Centi Treasure to Phase 2 otherwise you are bricked for PVP forever 💀💀💀💀

[tropic summit]

lemme go grab the one i use for Levy

[shell hazel]

I was a little supported by the power of amex but not in a huge way I guess, I think I'd still be able to do well without any $

[glad meteor]

No ca win. = pleb in pvp

[swift mango]

Your ViperT?

[tropic summit]

yes clearly
fellow shooting range main

[glad meteor]

wait

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

well excuse me one of those two are funding the next year skins on their own

[oak smelt]

You can tell to some degree via sync level, Nikke count, campaign progress in relation to creation date in that bracket, costume in relation to time (Mission passes), CP in relation to others
Its much easier to differentiate a huge whale as opposed to dolphins who don't buy costume passes.
For this case, it may or may not be since he might just buy monthly mission passes so that makes him more of a dolphin.
Need more info to determine

[shell hazel]

f2p can still do OK it's mostly a few things:

• can still be worth wiping out free + 50 as f2p
• keep pushing both campains when you can
• prioritise campaign building
• make sure to buy the event mode hard tries and use on core dust crate stage (11)

[strong hull]

Rosy one

[swift mango]

@umbral crown really?

[tropic summit]

Rosy's noah is as invested as my SWHA/Ein/SBS

[swift mango]

You have Rosy Blabla?

[shell hazel]

do you buy the hard mode extra tries for cd crates @unreal dawn ?

[swift mango]

Send me the link

[worthy knoll]

I'm pleb now, had someone use my account on one month.. when I arrived I was at C9, they haven't touched pvp at all. Decided to just chill at C9 this whole season until next shuffle

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

your bracket probably confused to why the pvp god suddenly stays on lower rankings

[worthy knoll]

I'm gatekeeping C9 pos

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-lotr-do-not-enter-not-allowed-scream-gif-16729885

[tropic summit]

could be worse, you could be gatekeeping ch10 which is the entrance for many dia2

[swift mango]

Look at this guy calling himself pleb after winning CA.

@glad meteor
@tropic summit

Now win CA to show him

[tropic summit]

no my CA is cursed, regularly getting countered and i'm not wasting any rocks on this shiet anyway

[swift mango]

Stop saving rock and gem for nikke 3.0

[tropic summit]

nikke 4.0 mind you

[oak smelt]

Dia2 can still hit C9 or C10

[worthy knoll]

When will CA be out of beta though?

[oak smelt]

Maybe it was changed?

[tropic summit]

probably after EoS

[swift mango]

After season 30 they said

[tropic summit]

sauce?

[worthy knoll]

Also where did surface exploration go? I remember it was still there when I left but I can't find it now on the campaign when I came back from Riyadh

[tropic summit]

thank the gods it was scrapped cuz feedbacks pointed out how shit it was

[worthy knoll]

It was on campaign iirc but it was inaccessible

[swift mango]

I remember @umbral crown said sometime ago it would be done with beta after 6 more seasons.

[tropic summit]

[worthy knoll]

Oh no.. I was looking forward to those hexagons

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3

[worthy knoll]

Like, maybe could be a chance to go more than 26% CS

Or completely fill it with crit rate

[swift mango]

It's a strong buff for other game mode you know? It should be one of the reason they crapped surface. Don't want to make game easier.

[worthy knoll]

It was still an extra source of rock so I like it

[tropic summit]

i'd rather not have that extra source if the game mode i've to play is garbo for the rest of nikke

we getting those rocks now via interception anyhow

[shell hazel]

next we need to level 3 skill books to each event shop

because those are a pain

[swift mango]

I don't remember there was extra charge speed block. But extra Crit rate would be nice

[upper grove]

YES

[tropic summit]

nah they were going for it if people didn't complain in the survey, why?

• recycled assets, easy to implement, low cost
• chibi are inexpensive and already streamlined, every unit gets them
• models are cheap to implement, they can keep using the same engine they use for new chapters
• sustainable, because of the above, can keep going along chapters and updates

[nimble swan]

This, exactly.
Must tell SU in survey or something

[tropic summit]

the fortunate thing majority of this community clearly saw how budget and fillerish that game mode was gonna be, let alone how repetitive and chore-like

[swift mango]

Extra source of stat means dupes less useful and would be less pulled, so less revenue

[shell hazel]

I'll try they don't always ask for stuff though just 50th question where I found blabla from lol

[tropic summit]

blood you know SU, that's 100% the first thing they considered during design phase, money first above all, they considered it for sure

if that phase was scrapped we wouldn't even have seen surface content in beta

it would've been scrapped way earlier than that

[worthy knoll]

Still its better than just on interception. And like you just needed to wait like a week, then use it all up, it was quick anyway if you spread out the teams for them to do it. And you can also just do it on the very first area awhere the map was small. Only update they just need was to increase their movement speed.. and prolly stop like a game defense mode for the dailies, just go full eliminate then it will not be annoying now

[swift mango]

Why else you think they never applied those stat to the game during beta.
The finally checked after beta and realized it's too much.

[shell hazel]

I could try posting it in feedback I think enough people would welcome more skill book options

[tropic summit]

yes but are we, the players, fine with that? do we really need an extra chore? just add that extra source income in already existing game features, why add more chore and most importantly more piss poor content

[tropic summit]

i dunno that sounds sus and stupid... but knowing SU non existing QoL deparament, i can't shut it down entirely

[nimble swan]

Yeah, really, it’s not fun waiting 2 weeks to level up a burst skill one level for one unit, when they release meta units in batches

[swift mango]

Dev note said they will increase interception reward. Probably adding 0.6 rocks a day to fill the Surface content delete.

Or 0.5

[hybrid fox]

bloody dude copied my spvp again

[tropic summit]

sauce: https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail.html?content_id=835e7b26a7fafa4df8ab738a81b2b9f6aa3a

[nimble swan]

It should be 0.6 / day as it was for surface. But you can still do 6x 0 on fbd

[gaunt pulsar]

0,2 per run probably lol, because we do 3 runs per day

[swift mango]

Or 0.1

[tropic summit]

considered your average luck, probably 0.05

[nimble swan]

[worthy knoll]

I was fine with it by the end. It was a chore at start, but the end loop was still manageable. I just viewed it just doing like a hard mode different kind of game mode 1 time, then something like an interception mode to unlock that you can stack the attempts, no sweep but it was still tolerable. The only issue was the movement speed. But if they fix that, then it was okay for me as a end game loop

[swift mango]

Make it 0.0001 still an increase and they didn't lie

[umbral belfry]

@wild hemlock are you still in

[gaunt pulsar]

surface had potential but it was so poorly made and controls just atrocious for such game mode, it's like if you playing starcraft but with that cell movement restriction and with static enemies, and giga cheap knockoff

[tropic summit]

i dunno i don't think we should actually settle and accept such obvious cheap design for a new regular game mode, sets a very poor standard and essentially tells the dev players are fine with anything, even half-assed game modes

CA is already a bad example, i was expecting more uproar but nobody cares cuz it doesn't give rewards anyway, so you can sleep on it
but a game mode you will likely have to engage with because of rewards? i want that game mode to be at least fun or as chill as interception is

[shell hazel]

@upper grove @nimble swan and anyone else who feels like upvoting it please do so, I don't really expect much but you never know lol
https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1483125567464144956

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-doing-my-part-serious

[shell hazel]

maybe add a nice comment as well to back it up 😄

[hybrid fox]

how do I win this

[tropic summit]

right, gonna tell them how hippo is evil and that they better listen to him unless they want an army of cultist invading together with rapture

[oak smelt]

Its by design though just that its on a way worse time delay than other skill books so it kind of nudges ppl who can't wait to swipe

[shell hazel]

that is...

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-thats-correct-yes-nod-nodding-gif-10083239

[worthy knoll]

Tbf, interception wasn't chill too at the very start. Not sure when you started, but interception on Grave Digger and Alteisen was surely a pain too back then, I don't see it as fun. But they did fix it after some months with Anomaly giving decent (?but eh it still rng, but at least with pity now) rewards even at low diff clear, they could just have done the same in Surface content.

[oak smelt]

Seems like they didnt specifically mentioned Kraken, I hope that means they add shard box to other AIs which would be really nice

[worthy knoll]

I remember the time people just pause the hell out on GD just to somehow make GD hang in the air

[shell hazel]

probably but we can try :0

[tropic summit]

yes interception started off poor too, i agree, but it was a game mode that you could streamline and get used to, also served as a good benchmark to keep track of your progress and regardless was still an OK design game mode

my point is, if the needs of the players is extra resource sources, then just add them to an existing well streamlined mode
if you come up with a new game mode, it damn better be adding value, not just adding chores

ofc opinions may differ, but i seek quality from this game now, because they've all the resources they need to release actual good content, not recycled one

[hybrid fox]

help

[fair pivot]

For CA isn't it because it's a small minority that participates in it, combined with the already few people that bother with pvp? What % of the player base even cares about the mode.

[shell hazel]

they could still really do with expanding CA to more people in SPA, top 10 definitely feels like a fair cut off point

[tropic summit]

absolutely right, another very good point is accessibility

[shell hazel]

then chal 10 has more of a meaning

[nimble swan]

Done 🫡

[oak smelt]

lol, technical boost pack for a "low" price of 99.99 only have 90 pcs of burst III manual🎣

[worthy knoll]

Cmon, you know their servers can't handle it

[shell hazel]

the skill book packs are incredibly poor value for money, even if spending

[nimble swan]

This is pure bs

[oak smelt]

Yeah, so much whale bait in the cash shop lol

[swift mango]

Team 1, get 80% Ele on Cindy.
Team 2&3, hahaha no

[hybrid fox]

[worthy knoll]

Tbf, the surface content before, I was imagining it like a GFL2 turn base tile game mode. That is clearly more of a chore than what they implement. I kinda saw surface content in what they did kinda like the old Tears to Tiara gameplay

[tropic summit]

you can beat those, but you need to play CP tetris

multiply enemy CP for 0.846

T2 you can win with noah biscuit helmt flex flex
T3 you can win with indom SWHA/vestiTU

T1 is very easy, as blood suggested slow cindy

they've no anti nuke so you can run any speed between 2RL and 3.5RL

[worthy knoll]

SWHA as main B3 on sp def is a free win

[tropic summit]

the thing is, if the game mode is actually fun, it's fine if it's "longer"

[hybrid fox]

rosy? or

[tropic summit]

the problem is when the game mode doesn't do it justice for the time you spend for it

[swift mango]

Ofc you know what you should select every day

[worthy knoll]

Nah she has just the same problem as Emi, but even worse than Emi is her shot is just single target and will take time to sequence before doing all her huge damage shots

[tropic summit]

it's already funny that the game is trying to push you to play it the least possible tho, almost a paradox

[upper grove]

who needs resources

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/angry-gary-oldman-E1b

[swift mango]

[hybrid fox]

how do u form a slow cindy without blanc or noah or biscuit

[upper grove]

Leon the professional

[oak smelt]

Yeah, those are the best value packs but its on a time delay.
So if one is spending for best value, this is one of it.
The instant options are all whale bait.

[tropic summit]

nayuta p1, attacker sacc in p2 or any p as long as you know their atk% is higher than other units

[worthy knoll]

Pretty sure Biscuit is vital on slow Cindy though

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy without Blanc or Noah is easy.

Slow Cindy without biscuit is probably not functioning 90% the time.

[tropic summit]

@hybrid fox example assuming miharaD higher atk% than SWHA

[hybrid fox]

[hybrid fox]

maybe this 2 teams then idk

[worthy knoll]

That is not "slow" right?

[tropic summit]

your main problem is CP first and foremost anyway, start with seeing if you can handle T3 or T2, then see what you've left ofr T1

[tropic summit]

enemy has centi main B2

[swift mango]

Are these repeatable?

[worthy knoll]

I mean in general on Slow Cindy

[tropic summit]

no that is not slow, slower one is 4RL or 5RL to bypass noah

[worthy knoll]

Not as a tailored on opponent

[oak smelt]

Not sure, i don't spend lol

[tropic summit]

in this case enemy has centi B2, so it can be 2RL or 3.5RL for all it matters

just need to bypass helmT B3 by saccing an attacker then wiping with ele advantage cindy

an offburst attacker to help killing moran like SWHA or laplaceT should do, together with nayuta cindy and rumani

[worthy knoll]

Ah, HelmT B3

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's not. Because Noah is real time now, 3.5rl is still slow Cindy but 3RL Cindy is only slow when you put Cindy p1 along with Centi shield to make enemy 1rl

[worthy knoll]

Then yeah as long no AoE

[tropic summit]

ye we looking at this

we had a few instances where enemy survived cindy with nayuta and noise buff, but it was a bricked cindy without ele% against a whel

[hybrid fox]

dont worry my units are not that bad as in 0.85

[worthy knoll]

Just need to block with Nayuta and have the attacker be sacc sniped, doesn't need Biscuit

[tropic summit]

exactly

[swift mango]

🤏

[tropic summit]

the main issue here is just sorting CP, enemy teams are quite managable

as long as he plays CP tetris he can beat this

[shell hazel]

I just do cd crates in this lol usually

300 per month

[hybrid fox]

dont need to sort
cuz all of them is good enough

is this weird
tem 1 is random go

or maybe a bit weird?

[swift mango]

Time to change target

[tropic summit]

are you crazy

2 water codes against rosanna and blanc without biscuit against a vestiTU

[shell hazel]

no it's not I think

[hybrid fox]

I am entirely betting on my rosy to kill their water

it prob wont

[hybrid fox]

oh
RIGHT
I FORGOT
blanc is problem

[shell hazel]

240 level 3 skill books or 120 level 3 bursts for $15 is the equivalent

vs 300 cd crates

[hybrid fox]

thx for reminder I am busy in other lately

[gritty ridge]

I like your name

[swift mango]

It is what it is

[shell hazel]

[hybrid fox]

rosanna (electric) counters water bro!

[hybrid fox]

how uh do I fix I need biscuit for team 2 accordingly

[tropic summit]

T1 you're not even bursting, swha removes your cloak, you're too slow

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-peach-gif-2333310627705556630

[hybrid fox]

not even if la+ dies? I assume that

[tropic summit]

as i said play CP tetris with these archetypes or similar, pick 2 teams

[hybrid fox]

team 1 is fine, its free

[oak smelt]

No bay? If you have her then you can swap out Noah on T2 and put Noah on another team

[hybrid fox]

thx for spoonfeed
as always

[tropic summit]

those are not ready to go, you still need to play with CP
and retain the speeds https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

T2 and T3 both want 2RL

[oblique gyro]

@shell hazel hi buddy

lol, i guess he decided to put a smic in the game, otherwise i don't know how he just gapped me with 50 lvl

[hybrid fox]

their cp is fine

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/credit-card-swipe

[shell hazel]

yes he tried to beat me in SPA as well 😄

[hybrid fox]

oh oh oh

hey
there's 2 rumani @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

as i said, pick 2 teams and fix CP, retain the speed

fix units as needed

[hybrid fox]

and cindy
oh

[tropic summit]

those are archetypes i gave you, templates, use them and fill them with your units based on CP

[oblique gyro]

hahaha

[tropic summit]

important: match the speed (T2 and T3 need 2RL, via feed or natural)
T1 you can be any speed between 2RL and 3.5RL

[hybrid fox]

cannot 2RL uhh

[shell hazel]

he gapped me by +27 sync there, I think he was saving crates/spending money to boost

[hybrid fox]

unless all goes CS

[shell hazel]

I can sync 534 atm

[hybrid fox]

so go CS cube?

[umbral crown]

[hybrid fox]

nvm Emilia works
luv her

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-rezero-rambling-silly-gif-12258895905377246546

[swift mango]

From top to bottom hit 1-2-3 by same order. You never showed box so what can I care about CP?

[hybrid fox]

mihara wont get 3RL

[hybrid fox]

my cp is fine

[swift mango]

Switch team 3 position a little here.

[hybrid fox]

ok ok final check thx btw

3RL 2RL 2RL

[hybrid fox]

songs to my ear

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/0O3ZwhfhGSQ?si=PjuX6YnMrEJePNeR

[hybrid fox]

going in

[swift mango]

Good luck with 1-2.

[hybrid fox]

bad
nikke crashed

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter
Just open app again

[worthy knoll]

I'm confused.. bloods pic and the actual arrangement differs.

[hybrid fox]

lose

[umbral crown]

[hybrid fox]

ur turn

[swift mango]

That's why I told you to GL.

[umbral crown]

It was back then ViperT , but now its Helm, Noah, vesti moran blanc

[shell hazel]

these teams weren't even same ones blood said? 😄 #pvp-arena message

[hybrid fox]

it's railtracer's

[umbral crown]

Yes, beta S30 will do the trick

[swift mango]

Those are rail teams

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Do not lose

[swift mango]

And I would still not win another CA.

[worthy knoll]

I don't think it was even the same as what rail submitted though

[hybrid fox]

T1 close win
T2 win
T3 win
rapunzel 30% hp tho
@swift mango u are a god

[swift mango]

Laplace need treasure e and at least 2% CS.

[hybrid fox]

I do have treasure her

[swift mango]

Okay good thing you have treasure Lap.

[hybrid fox]

no CS tho

[shell hazel]

adjutant is 2% CS

[umbral crown]

A bit old ss

[umbral crown]

Top 5 stays the same, snowha has more cp than noise now but you can get an idea

[swift mango]

Well, CS doesn't matter if HelmT shoot SW or LapT instead of RH.

[swift mango]

Yeah, it was long ago when Viper ur highest

[umbral crown]

But there was a time noah was top 1 cp

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Did you know that if you know, then you are knowing? This is because you know that you did know how to knowing. Did you know this?

[wild hemlock]

yes are you?

[narrow birch]

Hey chat how invested does Label need to be to render scar trina teams useless ?

[tropic summit]

ask the label main @swift mango

[narrow birch]

Just got her randomly and I rememberd reading that she is absolutely broken in the Pinned Messages (against scartrina)

[tropic summit]

against any eletric nuke that is within 2-2.5RL

either way what you want to survive elec nuke is s2 between lvl 7 and lvl 10

[swift mango]

max skill 2.

[shell hazel]

probably works with low invest but you need cp on her

[narrow birch]

thxxx

[umbral belfry]

yes

[swift mango]

Another point is that CA is just extension of Arena, which was promised to players since day 1, not another completely new mode that suddenly take up more of your attention. Whether you like CA or not doesnt matter, they could change it but not delete it.

[rocky sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-uma-musume-cinderella-gray-gif-2101571392918904398

[gritty ridge]

Make it top 10

Add a losers bracket for 3rd

Gem rewards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd

With according frames ofc

[tropic summit]

don't think players were expecting only ch1-ch4 gets a spot every season tho

accessibility should be a key factor in these modes, it's also reflecting poorly on actually selling the game mode

Why should someone bother spending effort and resources to deal with whales/leviathans that will monopolize their bracket?

On the other hand the fact that it has effectively no rewards, makes it useless and people can avoid it altogether without losing out

final result: just don't release it altogether then

[upper grove]

only good part about CA is the additional credit gain tbh

[tropic summit]

this is something that, again, should get scrapped during design phase, so even before reaching beta
it's clear that this game mode was rushed and they just tried to release it in a way that it would at least work

The easist way to achieve this? give no rewards and be automated

ironically the day of release we had one of the longest maintenance ever in nikke, cuz it was still broken even with the cheap-ass auto approach

[tropic summit]

rewards that they could've given via other methods anyway, but we go back to the QoL not existing in this game

[swift mango]

At this point Gem isn't the problem they could just give anything. Skill book 3 and ele code for example, that would motivate the whales more. While not making poor f2p overly jealous.

[gritty ridge]

Nah

[upper grove]

I was content for a while but now I'm running out of game to play, I should be able to finish hard campaign by release of ch 46 or so with my sync progress

[gritty ridge]

I want gems

[swift mango]

This game is cater to whale, not f2p. Whale doesn't need gem. F2P mostly can't compete so would feel CA making the rich richer. Giving skill books is a win win.

[gritty ridge]

Im a whale and I need gem

[swift mango]

then you aren't

[upper grove]

whales need rocks and skill books more imo

even if buying all rock packs it's not enough

[swift mango]

precisely skill book 3 and elements code

[gritty ridge]

Ive spent 3.5k, im pretty sure that counts as a whale

[swift mango]

nah that's sardine

[upper grove]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-whos-sus-not-me-gif-7283757931826139493

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

3.5k could give u good whale advantage, Idk what did you spent for while still be low synch compared to other of your bracket. Maybe not very efficient.

[gritty ridge]

I didnt buy levels

I bought skins, all I was interested in

[swift mango]

3500$ is 116.6 gacha skins. There is just not enough skin for you to buy. Maybe you aren't counting in US dollar.

[gritty ridge]

Skins + pull packs

[swift mango]

That's why you aren't spending your money efficiently I guess.

[tropic summit]

ya even more reason to give us something for the medium/long term that isn't half assed

and don't say towers

[tropic summit]

there's a method, just use more 💳

[swift mango]

Try to get champ in CA or top 200 in SR for once then.

[gritty ridge]

Wdym efficiently

The goal wasnt levels

[mighty haven]

hello pvpers

[swift mango]

I mean, when I was playing Rise of Kingdom, 3500$ a MONTH is barely considered dolphin.

Whale is 10k$ a month above

[upper grove]

malding towers is just not the same without the chibis moving around

[mighty haven]

april fools time

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-gif-4582005177308983234

[upper grove]

I missed top 200 in SR thrice by less than 500m-1b because I was an idiot and tried to do it with 3 separate elements

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dorothy-nikke-doro-doro-orange-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-7754362134652070518

[upper grove]

altruia would have been easy top 200 but I refused to build that collab, true dmg slop

[mighty haven]

More like

OG SW Mald = win

[upper grove]

my SW is dead weight, 0 ele 1 atk and I can't afford to use rocks on a unit I can't use in UR

[swift mango]

So have you get top 200 ever?
Move to getting champ then

[upper grove]

how often do we get ultra in UR? once a year?

[mighty haven]

Like
nEVER

[upper grove]

next wind or water should be top 200 easily, I won't spread my resources into fire and iron this time

[swift mango]

There was an UR last year where SW was BiS for Iron.

[upper grove]

yeah I know, I posted above that ultra appears maybe once a year

meanwhile wind weak material H:

[glad meteor]

Sasuga estur

[swift mango]

@mystic rain how was it?

The result

[strange linden]

So now I got two guys beating me, the new one shamelessly copying my comps
What's the strat here now?
I honestly do not want to waste gems for it and I needs new comps as well, they're all using the same one with Vesti/SWHA/Nayuta

[mystic rain]

lost tho

[swift mango]

Yeah, you were much faster

[oak hatch]

Absolute needs better investment

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit muh entire crew ded from ca

[mystic rain]

his scar team way too fast

[swift mango]

[mystic rain]

1.8RL scar or something my vesti with 16cs only lands 2 shots and theyre already bursting

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Well, if you Vesti isn't strong enough, run Rosa instead of Mast. They are fast because linked feed.

[tropic summit]

the next strat is this:

• realise that arena actually doesn't expect you to win on defense
• it's all attacker oriented and the one who gems the most

do your 2 attempts and go play something worth your time is the best real advise

[swift mango]

Then a slow cindy team in place of SG team

[mystic rain]

4th shot lands after trina burst b2 with 16

[strange linden]

Yeah screw this 2.4 or 2.1k gems is fine anyway

[tropic summit]

a good mindset, keep the rank you're comfortably defending with and push higher from time to time

[swift mango]

if you landed all 4 shot and Scarlet still could burst then yeah, your Vesti isn't strong enough, use Rosa next time instead of mast

[mystic rain]

but if my vesti was 21 4th shot would hit before trina b2

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[mystic rain]

no with 16 cs on vesti first shot would hit while scar is immune anyway

[glad meteor]

[mystic rain]

so im still only landing 3 shots on scar

[versed mesa]

I've been a bit higher at getting the top 3 for 3k for months, but the whales I was holding myself against are now spending so much on either outleveling or outgemming that I just can't keep up, since I never gem for extra attempts.

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter, you did all you could okay? 4 shot from vesti is all Vesti Absolute could do. If you aren't winning with that you lose.

[versed mesa]

Not that there is any point as it completely negates the benefit from getting the higher gem rewards anyway

If you spend 1000 gems in a season to get 300 more at the end

[mystic rain]

ok i reroll 4th cs on my vesti 💢

[versed mesa]

Congrats, you earned -700 gems!

[tight finch]

I mean most people just gem to play CA and dont care for rhe gems

[swift mango]

or just bring Rosa so you absolute could burst.

[mystic rain]

bro if i do that whos gonna replace my sg 😭

[swift mango]

I said it already, slow cindy

[mystic rain]

im still cindyless 😹

[versed mesa]

I know, but that's the point, if you don't care about CA and just want the most gems you can in SP, just use your free tickets and land where you land at the end

[tight finch]

Its time to drop sg

[mystic rain]

XDDDD i cant man

[tight finch]

My rosa save me vs scar last round

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

this is the way

[mystic rain]

i skipped out on xsoline and label banner cuz i was broke af then and my bay still only 1LB

[oak hatch]

How much cs lines do u have?

[mystic rain]

16

[oak hatch]

Lines

[mystic rain]

3 cs

u watn exact values?

[oak hatch]

Maybe too much against scar, 11 at most to not miss

[mystic rain]

4.63 5.80 4.89

[swift mango]

This sound funny, send me your box in private chat. I would see if there is anything else. Slow Cindy isn't that needed when you have label. Coudl be slow ada, slow SW, slow libby .etc

[oak hatch]

2 cs could be enough but need to high roll both

[mystic rain]

no i was saying with 21 cs my vesti coyuld land 4th shot on trina b2

so i could kill trina before she burst b2

[oak hatch]

Yeah probably either 2 cs line or 4 cs line then

[mystic rain]

mfw im gonna get secretly box shamed 😭

[versed mesa]

I'll just show my box to whoever, no shame

[mystic rain]

showing off my box i feel like im stripping naked

kyaa

[strange linden]

I'll still put some new def though, I don't want to give free wins
But again, what is good and not really known these days
I have nero moran but Vesti just kill it

[swift mango]

I mean I'm lazy so if you sent it here I may lose it.

But yeah, you could just 3-3.5rl indom Libby (3.5rl), SWHA, Ada (SW, Ada 3rl is fine) with Label+Biscuit.

2rl 3 teams. Including 1 2.5rl team feed to 2rl with Jackal.

Absolute 1 team.

[tight finch]

Somehow survived to top 16 with scuff comps, prob getting cooked by core diff now

[tight finch]

At least youve prob got more ele than me

[mystic rain]

im not a whale bro lmao

[versed mesa]

The peeps in C5 and below are so far not hitting me at all or unable to make teams to beat mine so keeping my defense the same, though I could definitely improve it.

[mystic rain]

my investment is shit tbh

[upper grove]

yeah just try to def as long as possible ofc, no need to lose on purpose

[mystic rain]

next champs im definitely just gonna have fun and field 3 teams only and see if i get any further

[oak hatch]

Not worth it to invest hard just to try to beat a whale then, they can still probably win, better to just depend on luck

[broken lark]

@lunar pawn going to test random teams u can just hit me back if it works

[tight finch]

Gotta trust in priv carry

[mystic rain]

i dont have priv treasured yet

but maybe i should

i have nobody else i could actually work on anyway for pvp

cant treasure bay, dont have xxsoline or label

[tight finch]

My priv only lost 1 to slow cindy, so far

[mystic rain]

no cindy

[tight finch]

Better than expexted

[versed mesa]

Oh man, I have to vote in CA between the whale who locked me out of getting Top 3 in SP and some random Looking at his comps he will almost definitely win, so I would get the credits boxes, but I don't wanna vote for him when he is the one locking me out of 300 extra gems

[oak hatch]

Maybe u can try flora in ur absolute to make vesti stronger

Don’t have to give up on sg rosa then

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/0O3ZwhfhGSQ?si=iTeEwx5AvJAtBRWo

[mystic rain]

is flora actually buffing true dmg in pvp substantially

[swift mango]

Invest enough so you won't be disgusted by looking at it.

[oak hatch]

31% true damage is a good amount

[mystic rain]

[oak hatch]

Lots of champs won using mast flora absolute

[mystic rain]

skill build forr pvp?

[oak hatch]

1/10/1

[tight finch]

Does true damage cube give any value to vesti

[swift mango]

Yes, but you have the battery for it?

[oak hatch]

Yeah but probably not worth using until high level

[tight finch]

I mean if you wanna be that #1 abs player maybe tots worth
Can slap it on chisato too double profit

[mystic rain]

dw guys arcana alt will save my account

[ruby iris]

could anyone help me beat this team? I don't know what to so it's super tanky... Also, how did they make it that good, is it because of CS?

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message
@mystic rain

[mystic rain]

bro i dmed u already

[swift mango]

Replace Cindy with Libby

[lunar pawn]

sure

[tropic summit]

you using the wrong DPS to deal with that, replace cindy with VestiTU

also enemy team is actually 4RL, punish it with 2RL lib or scarlet

[versed mesa]

Holy VestiTU reroll

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

Their sasuga p2 noah also makes enemy faster

[tropic summit]

@ruby iris run this

nayuta scarlet trina swha rh

[frozen locust]

Any advice on teams to beat this SA def setup? I can't seem to crack it despite multiple attempts over a few days...
I can use pretty much every relevant unit except Rossana and Emilia

[shell hazel]

when is this skin gonna be here again?

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-deniz-deniz-gif-23653159

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

For the farters

[shell hazel]

das farterland?

[glad meteor]

Just wait till someone mods a fart into the voice line

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left

RH assumed higher HP than vestiTU, give RH vigor if you're unsure, vestiTU tempering

centi jackal quantum

other team doesn't need any particular cubes

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

Hippos has whel discord

[shell hazel]

it's because cults are usually quite wealthy

I saw granblue fantasy came to Steam recently

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

GBF too old

[shell hazel]

that was also something I thought of

[frozen locust]

You're a godsend, thank you as always! Funnily random build for T2 also snagged the win

[placid bloom]

the gameplay is alright I guess as far as turn based autobattler goes

[tropic summit]

i remember playing it a long while back

didn't last long a few weeks in and it was getting repetitive, story was ok tho

[placid bloom]

it is too grindy, getting meta team for every element

and pretty hard bottlenecked by stamina

[shell hazel]

I quite liked the recent Relink game, it's not a gacha though

[frozen locust]

I take it it's always a safe bet to go with a non-attacker build setup against any Rossana teams?

[placid bloom]

action also more fun than turn based

[upper grove]

tactical peek window

[placid bloom]

but not having to pull char is the main thing

[tropic summit]

situational but that T3 you ran counters a lot of things, can lose to indom and to DPS B3 with anti nuke on the other hand
enemy team was a glass cannon without anti nuke and with attacker pressure, as you ran helmT as flex battery and invulnerable noah, it was a perfect match

cindy obviously also doesn't get targetted as one of the few lethal B3 nukers that is not an attacker

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

I dunno what is happening, barely made any changes to my sp defense team, the C3 I took the spot from has lost 5 in a row now trying to take it back

Ah there we go 6th time was the charm