pvp-arena

[shell hazel]

I have crates for 533 atm, but 561 is +27 more needed, that will take longer than a month

[covert lintel]

I'm surprised you're not private your profile
Most ppl i try to peek at are shy

[swift mango]

I guess penguin did better than u then

[shell hazel]

I dunno depends when he started

i'm on similar path to warudo probably who started about 2 months before me

[gritty ridge]

I never go in there

[swift mango]

I mean penguin maid at 50%+ deficit.

[gritty ridge]

I think I did when I first joined the server

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[covert lintel]

I wonder if the new arcana is good for pvp

[shell hazel]

think about 40% was highest my mald ever got lol

and it's painful there

[tropic summit]

mine is private for the units which is all that matters

[tight finch]

We hope not because sg bad

[swift mango]

If u can then do it

[tropic summit]

i could but i don't see myself clearing 100% with 581

[hollow oracle]

Can someone explain to me why the bottom team beats the top team. It works but it is mega scuffed and SBS dies before getting indom, but any other team I try doesn't work.

[glad meteor]

Record t2. Interesting cook

[swift mango]

Just do it

[forest zodiac]

should be juuust enough I guess? (from my calculations *.0846)

[tropic summit]

multiply for 0.846 and see that your CP is higher than that value for both teams

[forest zodiac]

it is, by tiny margin

[glad meteor]

Could record fight to properly analyse

[tropic summit]

then yeah no penalty, could give it a shot, ensure ada has higher HP than SWHA by running in shooting range first, give her vigor

[hollow oracle]

I recorded it

[glad meteor]

Send

[forest zodiac]

yeah, ada vigor

[glad meteor]

Oh wait. We in same al discord

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

[hollow oracle]

Chiv brother XD

[tropic summit]

but new chapters in a month and a half

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/yesterday-gif-25442530

[tropic summit]

but mom...

[hollow oracle]

Oh that didnt work

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/sandal-hit-throw-chancla-slipper-gif-16961199

[hollow oracle]

Maybe too big of file size to send in disc

[forest zodiac]

moran death was intended?

[lone sequoia]

probably because enemy team have vesti and fire have more dmg against wind units (?)

[brazen ledge]

clearly not lmao

but it still worked

[tropic summit]

hmm shouldn't die but that's why i gave you rumani just in case, good thing we did

[forest zodiac]

my moran not treasured

[tropic summit]

she's actually built or you don't have her OL'ed?

[forest zodiac]

no copies

she is 10-10-10

ols kinda ehh

[tropic summit]

eh interesting, guess their lappy and nayuta are well built

[lone sequoia]

21%+ hit to kill moran (?

[tropic summit]

either way good job

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor

[hollow oracle]

But if I move SBS middle she dies anyway and the team wipes

[forest zodiac]

thanks for helping

[lone sequoia]

slow team, helmt snipe and moran+biscuit+helm b3

[lone sequoia]

is just a way to stall her team synergy

[hollow oracle]

I tried to do a slower team but I couldnt egt it to work

[glad meteor]

Not playing for me. But can just read nesso analysis

[lone sequoia]

you also got a missindom against swha team

[hollow oracle]

Idk what that means 💀

Is indom bad against swha?

[brazen ledge]

when i see indom, i skip the team and do the 2 others lmao

[lone sequoia]

how the enemy team works, swha is main dps (b3) and the synergy wants to give blanc burst to swha so she can fight for 10seconds without dying, but the skill target lowest HP unit at the time of the cast, in this case was vesti

[hollow oracle]

Oh i understand what you mean now

[lone sequoia]

is just one of the ways to fight some indom teams (blanc burst- the bunny girl) if the enemy team doesn't check for p5 (position 5) link or HP priority

[hollow oracle]

So the only reason it works is cuz helm is shooting at vesti

[lone sequoia]

and because moran target highest atk unit when she get her weapon change

well, in that video happen many things, not enough dmg from your team to proc enemy biscuit S2 on moran, enemy moran burst in time to keep the HP above 50%, your helmT snipe her and the missindom+ your moran kill enemy swha

[hollow oracle]

I think SBS is dying before the burst happened

[hollow oracle]

Lol. Too much for me to understand fully

[lone sequoia]

i'm not sure about how sbs work against biscuit S2 now, i remember something about a change, but that patch had many bugs so i don't know

[lone sequoia]

but you are sync 701+?

[hollow oracle]

Ya

I havent done pvp is like 1.5yrs now

So so much stuff has changed in that time

[rich quail]

Dinosaurs are coming back to life

[hollow oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-5370892371537113608

[tropic summit]

this is the reason, you're forcing misindom on enemy and you're then killing SWHA who's casting B3, effectively preventing their B3

[lone sequoia]

the main thing was that your helmT snipe enemy moran, if that didn't happen it could be your team attacking enemy moran with biscuit S2

[tropic summit]

since it's a vestiTU offburst, she doesn't have damage then to solo your moran, who's on lifesteal

which results in you outstalling

[hollow oracle]

There is probably a better team to beat it but I guess it works so I wont change anything XD at least i understand now why its winning

[shell hazel]

are they trying to indom moran or something? 😄

[lone sequoia]

not sure... if moran didn't kill swha her burst should be enough to kill p3~p5

[tropic summit]

well ironically your team is effective here, it counters theirs to a T

[lone sequoia]

and his team was faster than enemy team, so the weapon change can't skip the new attract buff

[tropic summit]

think the strategy here is just to throw off the opponent

the result although is that that team is incosistent and more RNGy

[lone sequoia]

add mihara for better odds

[tropic summit]

vestiTU in p5 is also a bit of a bad choice

considered we've 2 water code insane snipers

[hazy shore]

how do I change up these sp defense teams with treasured moran?

[arctic jewel]

let's say that you're using Noah/MoranT/Biscuit/HelmT/VestiTU and you want to burst with Helm, you would have to change the team like this?
Noah/MoranT/HelmT/VestiTU/Biscuit?

[lone sequoia]

probably moran p1 and noise p5 (no siren)- noah p2

[arctic jewel]

or maybe it doesn't matter since Noah (and Moran after Burst) are Taunting?

[lone sequoia]

it looks the same

moran over noise because biscuit, but both teams are in stun range and i think i can beat both versions (with the same teams), probably try to make that team 2RL or just go for the change if you get more cp

[arctic jewel]

oh? are you talking to me?

[lone sequoia]

wrong ping, my bad xd

[tropic summit]

change to what nesso suggested if that team already got broke through by same or lower invest opponent

#pvp-arena message

[lone sequoia]

dps p5 in case enemy have snipers, the thing is that if the team is 2RL, doesn't look like they can kill p5 in time, but vesti can tank a bit and heal back with helm b3... the problem is enemy helmT and swha are snipers

[tropic summit]

avoid noah in p1, unless you've siren resistance

keep B1 in p1 as long as you're 2RL

[hazy shore]

I think my vesti team is weak and slow, will quantum cubes help?

[tropic summit]

put your team here and add the cubes, see if they help you hit the next threshold
https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

if you've vestiTU on higher than 5%CS add the flash icon too

[hazy shore]

that works

[umbral belfry]

@hollow lagoon it's time

[arctic jewel]

Was just an example, but thanks for the answer 👍

[hollow lagoon]

0 rock today

[umbral belfry]

deserved

[hollow lagoon]

your hamster lost 3 micro seconds of life span to me

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-right-back-at-ya-kirby-anime-kirby-eating-a-watermelon-gif-17530449855967863291

^eating zanta rocks

[lone sequoia]

was 11 or 10%cs?

[umbral belfry]

[arctic jewel]

Ait, good to know, so Moran/Noah/Biscuit/Helm/Vesti?

[tropic summit]

most teams 11%CS

[arctic jewel]

Also good to know xD

[tropic summit]

hmm looks like an ok team, not sure what you using it for tho

[lone sequoia]

i think 10% if p5, but not sure about some units

[arctic jewel]

Was just an example for the discussion, it's my Rookie team that currently no one can break through

What's weird is that they used to break through, but not anymore, I don't know why either

[lone sequoia]

they can stall... play the indom... or stun your team...

i would like to see a bay/scar test against the swha b3 version... not sure about helmT b3, probably scar lose against both teams

probably snipe if enough cs...

[arctic jewel]

What's even funnier is that 2 of my toughest opponents actually uses Blanc indom... I have no idea why it doesn't work for them

[lone sequoia]

indom is fine if you can just kill the enemies pre-burst but if you go for the indom fight is really easy to win (against enemy indom)

[arctic jewel]

And whenever I use SWHA instead of Vesti, one of the opponents starts winning (my guess is that they have a Rosanna)

Just not invested enough to kill Vesti???

I have no idea

I just don't think they're that good in PvP

[tight finch]

I mean if its rookie they could be just throwing random stuff at it to see what can win, and when you swap it just becomes easier to beat

[lone sequoia]

first week in rookie arena is not important, you can use those hits to test comps and probably get a good rank the last 3 days

[arctic jewel]

It's been several weeks though, haven't lost in a while

And since nothing is happening, I'll just keep using that team

SP Arena is different though

Different opponents

[tight finch]

Rookie is like you can try 5 comps per day but your limited by opponants all running 2rl noah

[lone sequoia]

sp is easier... the only problem is that you can get gems there and people is just too competitive or have ego issues...

i still don't know why some people gem a lot, but they are in dead unions

[arctic jewel]

Ugh... tell me about it, some people just can't mentally take an L

One guy lost maybe 1100 gems to get nothing but losses

There's probably worse examples

[hollow lagoon]

union 2 opened for my clan, time to get another cult running~

[shell hazel]

we had someone in here losing thousands of gems to spa tries

[arctic jewel]

Oh no

That's the time when you need to realize that you need to sign out from Nikke and do something else for the rest of the day

[shell hazel]

if someone wants to gem for SPA 1 instead of me I'll make them do it, but I won't gem to keep it

I think I only did it once or twice for science, I probably gemmed more in rookie by mistake

[arctic jewel]

probably because Noah is the easiest way to gatekeep most players

Siren is another

[tight finch]

I mean people just set and neve rlook at rookie again

[swift mango]

Now you are back to Arcana.

@hollow lagoon u simp

[hollow lagoon]

wait

@umbral belfry is arcana?

[arctic jewel]

oh that, well... yeah... I should sooner or later do the same, whenever there's too much competition

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry blue hime is better

[arctic jewel]

SP Arena is way more rewarding anyway

[umbral belfry]

i had no choice

arcana sp is coming out. ✂️

[swift mango]

Now Zant is your simp.

[hollow lagoon]

tbh the velvet was sexier

[swift mango]

Simp in self denial

[hollow lagoon]

but ill never be fully satisified anyway

[vapid lake]

I started a week before crown banner

[eager brook]

Went from reaching top 8 to losing the first round, sad, but nothing you can do with team ordering

[oak hatch]

What server ur name seems familiar

[hollow lagoon]

normal

i died in prelims

and i won it a couple times before

[upper grove]

then your sync progress is more realistic @swift mango because hippo is still in the 520 or 530s range iirc

[eager brook]

Global, started after the last anniversary

[hollow lagoon]

@upper grove atleast i murder killed the one that killed us before i went down dis round

[upper grove]

you avenged us

[shell hazel]

yeah, 526 now can sync 533
crown banner is 1.5 anni so 6 months before me

[oak hatch]

U in my bracket I think

[hollow lagoon]

now u can go win it fer greater good

[vapid lake]

core dust buyer 🐳

[upper grove]

I won't win shit

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

not much really it sometimes comes with packs

but like Warudo I don't go out of my way to buy cd

some can attributed to that, some to the fact I wipe out a few times a day

[hollow lagoon]

i dont buy cd anymore

[upper grove]

wdym you don't want to push tower?

[vapid lake]

hop on endfield the factory calls

[hollow lagoon]

i'm chilling on 1200 atm

[shell hazel]

I already did it all my shit done today 😮

[upper grove]

your deficit for next hm chapter release should be low enough to breeze through the stages right

[hollow lagoon]

donno i cleared alturia on 615 average should be 621 no?

and right now i'm 623

[vapid lake]

i just woke up and the worst part was i was dreaming of conveyor belts

[upper grove]

the factory must grow

[upper grove]

idk I'm not there yet if only one is in the 580-600 range give or take that's probably true then

[hollow lagoon]

only one should be 581 ish range with moran now

[upper grove]

still just a part kill check

[hollow lagoon]

just use destruction cube

[upper grove]

even moran didn't help me survive the part kill

[upper grove]

waiting for SR to end to cope with more destruction cube parts

[hollow lagoon]

what are u using

surely not swha

[upper grove]

should die with destruction 7, mine is still 4 and I only used res 15 so far

[upper grove]

sdoro, 25% hp left on part

[hollow lagoon]

swha is no good

[upper grove]

I know, I tested

not for the part, anyway

[hollow lagoon]

i cleared only one 590

[upper grove]

me 563

[hollow lagoon]

but that was pre moran

my sdoro is only 60 ele tho and like 20 atk?

pertty bad

[upper grove]

my sdoro will clear part pretty sure with destruction 7

[hollow lagoon]

[oak hatch]

Doll mileage box came through

[umbral belfry]

mine now

[oak hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-space-run-pepe-gone-pepe-bye-bye-gif-20984604

[tropic summit]

true factory man
are you ready to become a GTA anime man end of april on NTE?

[vapid lake]

if the game doesnt run like shit

UE5 game

[tropic summit]

oh no...

fingers crossed

[glad meteor]

nte? Nt-

[vapid lake]

I quitted wuwa because its unoptimized pos and takes up so much space

if NTE is the same i will eventually just quit even if the game is good

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

here's hopes it can actually bring something fresh to the saturated gacha usual pattern

[swift mango]

Ohhn my bad

@upper grove

@tight finch

[swift mango]

I see

[vapid lake]

[swift mango]

I wish I could say that about my CA. Really hope I could win against the guy who beat me 3 times already. Last 2 time I saw I could beat him he lost before I met him and other way around.

Now I won't bother to check.

[tight finch]

DOes wuling use more than one base now 🤔

[vapid lake]

If u're good at factory spaghetti u can squeeze everything into the main hub

It actually all fits in there

[swift mango]

How much did it take? HI3 is about 40gb

[vapid lake]

My outpost is still empty

Wuwa 150gb now

[swift mango]

No longer a phone game

[hollow lagoon]

[tight finch]

I lost motivation once I started hitting near caps and you could have max wuling in like 1/4 main base
When we get trains

[vapid lake]

Doubt it will ever get to factorio levels of complexity

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

Thats too hardcore for the kind of audience this game targeting

[shell hazel]

the factory game is pretty fun but with limited/finite incoming resources you are basically forced to make certain things unless you don't care about min-maxing it

but I like that people who don't want to care about the factory game can get blueprints

[tight finch]

I had fun for a while with spaghetti till you start hitting all the limits
Then just back to factorio

[shell hazel]

I was enjoying the main core game again anyway actually exploring stuff in the maps which I hadn't done in a while

[glad meteor]

[vapid lake]

[rich quail]

N-E-E-T

[shell hazel]

[rich quail]

[swift mango]

3 defender helms that I have no use for and zero rock.

This pass week has been 1-2-0 rocks and no good gear.

What I lack the most is actually Abnormal attacker gear.

Next Collab will really end me.

[lone sequoia]

farm other bosses

[swift mango]

What boss? I'm farming gear for 3 weeks now.

[swift mango]

And only got 1 piece of abnormal attacker gear.

[lone sequoia]

i changed my DEF teams to test rail random teams, almost 2.5 years without new DEF

[lone sequoia]

keep farming...

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

or buy the gear from the shop, some bones or 100$

[swift mango]

Not if I lack all 4 pieces.

[lone sequoia]

ok, 400 then

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-dorothy-pipe-bomb-gif-4643514375044855612

[lone sequoia]

do you have gear boxes?

[swift mango]

I have but 800 piece to build 1 nikke suck

F Nikke dev only make abnormal attacker units.

F them

Even Pilgrim isn't that bad

[lone sequoia]

i still have like 10+ abnormal sets for defender and support

[swift mango]

Like Abnormal attacker gear is the hardest to get when I farm.

This is on purpose.

[lone sequoia]

i will have problems for pilgrim attacker gloves... only 2 left

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

but 5+ of the other pieces

can buy with bones

[shell hazel]

I farmed MC for the last week and mostly got Defender gear too, we got like 5 good defenders in the whole game lol

[austere marsh]

My Moran is being really stingy with Defense lines

[swift mango]

I mean it's not just about defender gear but about when they drop attacker gear it's never abnormal

[hardy bison]

@tropic summit So I got stone walled again by the same player in SPA 🙃 https://prnt.sc/n4oCA3muFz0B https://prnt.sc/ouFTO_Az3N5w

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

noah, moran, bay, cindy, jackal, blanc - rumani-centin't -, yep 5

[hardy bison]

I've gotten 6 rocks this week, pretty low for my luck

[glad rock]

Er, anyone knows why i am losing to someone with a lower cp using
Noah biscuit vesti helm jackal?

Was not having problems using slow cindy until today

[shell hazel]

I was exaggerating but you get the idea

what would solve a lot is a way to convert any 5 t9m to the 1 t9m piece you want

[lone sequoia]

i confirmed that we have like 5 good defenders

[shell hazel]

or at least something like that

the bones do help a bit but needs a lot to kit out just one character

[lone sequoia]

i have to full reroll my moran/nero because it will be expensive to fix lines... need like 3 3rd lines

[hardy bison]

We all know Shift Up will not let us do that. Only band-aid "fixes"

[shell hazel]

i'm parking moran rolls for now. I need to roll for new stuff

and anni in particular will need rocks

[lone sequoia]

.5 in 1 month

and 1 week

[swift mango]

I have 15 SSR Abnormal units and 11 are attacker.

[lone sequoia]

we don't have good abnormal supports...

[swift mango]

The guy who makes Collab units can eat shit.

[hardy bison]

Who was the last Abnormal Defender? 2B?

[lone sequoia]

i hope we never get 7ds collab

[swift mango]

Well, we have 17 SSR Abnormal total

12 Attacker
2 defender
3 supporter

[lone sequoia]

probably

[swift mango]

The guy who makes Collab units can go eat shit.

[tropic summit]

looks beatable as long as you're not CP gapped

[lone sequoia]

this is my collab rank
stellar blade/nier
RE
eva 1/reco/eva 2
re:zero
csm

[hardy bison]

I would flip RE tbh

[hardy bison]

I might be gapped, Only one of my teams is doing good against all teams.

[swift mango]

12

This is not counting Ludmilla and Tia

[lone sequoia]

i forgot rapu alt, my bad

[swift mango]

Wtf

[tropic summit]

i'd go with this, you've huge leeway against enemy liberalio team, as you can noah 3RL and still catch their liberalio nuke

ada you can flex with any offburst buffer, you'll be 3RL no matter what (privT or noir or drakeT or similar)

for T1 you can exploit the fact that blanc is p2 and they're on the slower side

a vestiTU + nayuta on 2RL will likely kill blanc pre burst

alternatively a scar vestiTU trina laplaceT jackal

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/exaggeration-you-know-what-too-much-go-too-far-dramatic-gif-20365059

[tropic summit]

that's a lot of defenders

[lone sequoia]

i forgot mori and soline

[tropic summit]

@hardy bison needless to say but don't bother running those teams if you're on deficit, check first by multiplying enemy CP for 0.846 then confirming your teams are at least above that

[swift mango]

They are supporter, are u drunk.

[tropic summit]

well mori is a defender, soline sure as hell is a supporter tho

[lone sequoia]

it was poli... both water both boring units...

[tropic summit]

they did poli dirty

my cope B2 buffer

[swift mango]

We also have quite a bit of potential useful and subpar defender. But mostly for arena.

[tropic summit]

i still remember merry using DR stack with ludmilla

[lone sequoia]

kilo main

[tropic summit]

and the pseudo blanc cope with folk

[lone sequoia]

bricked centi should help kilo to keep her shield

[tropic summit]

new CA strats

[swift mango]

You don't need DR stack with Ludmilla. We could survive to full burst easily now in currently meta. She would be 85% Dr in 15 seconds and taunt. Enough stalling. More useful than Nero.

[tropic summit]

go get her built and show the world

[swift mango]

After I'm done with Soline. Sr12 and a half now.

[lone sequoia]

the problem as always is the burst gen, weapon and water unit

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy doesn't care

[lone sequoia]

the 20 mats help alot there

[tropic summit]

would diesel realistically ever have an actual chance to shine?

[swift mango]

When?

[tropic summit]

although unlike units like ludmilla she gives nothing to the team

[swift mango]

She need to burst and that's bad

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anya-forger-spy-x-family-25

[lone sequoia]

when re:zero new season?

[north brook]

She (was) good for mother whale in elysion tower

[tropic summit]

oh at least she served some kind of purpose

[lone sequoia]

diesel mihara biscuit

[placid bloom]

there was DieselT infininte ammo tech with bastion cube but ofc it's not that good

[north brook]

DieselT and dkw combo would have been a lot better in elysion tower if they ever released a pierce unit for elysion

[tropic summit]

yeah i remember seeing it... until we get some sort of buffer that increases damage based on amount of bullets shot without reloading...

[placid bloom]

it's because Maid duo is better

[north brook]

But they never did so ely tower was awful until rapi

[placid bloom]

Maid duo was only like 1 month after Rapi

[north brook]

It was like xmaiden who finally gave it 1 dps and then we got rapi and maid duo and the entire original team was gone

[placid bloom]

we got Helm favorite item almost the same time too

[hardy bison]

Don't forget Treasure Helm

[placid bloom]

kicked everyone except DKW

[north brook]

The classic cope dkw(one semi good unit) marciana/shelm/mastOG/diesel + VestiOG + guillotine/phantom + privOG

[lone sequoia]

i still see people saying x new elysion unit will save elysion tower, but for more than a year helmTssrapi+maid is the elysion team

[undone blaze]

Is this worth the drop from 169k to 163k cp?

.5 faster burst

[tropic summit]

you're almost natural on the one on top, the one below needs at least 1 AR (in terms of feed)

[lone sequoia]

pepper?... time to go with ssakura

[swift mango]

We have 3 SSS burst 3 for campaign in Elysion. And Maid duo almost SSS when go together. Elysion is actually easier than Pilgrim. /Jk

It's true before SWHA I think.

[undone blaze]

Issue is I will most likely have to move Cindy to P2 and won't have Noise taunt and Pepper ult not as good I think.

[tropic summit]

why need to move cindy in p2?

[undone blaze]

Because Jackal and Pepper are my only B1s

[tropic summit]

jackal cannot die pre 2RL

she has x3 HP pool cuz linked

you'd need to take enough damage that kills 3 nikke

let's assume your cindy and noir are linked, noir is out of range unless they run snipers, cindy is behind decoy, they can only hit jackal and she'll use x3 HP pool instead of x1

[north brook]

Tbh since them ely tower been 2nd strongest after pilgrim

[lone sequoia]

yep and people keep saying that, but some of them probably don't have maids or ssrapi

[north brook]

It actually went from worst to best in like 3 months

[lone sequoia]

to me the worst tower for like a year is missilis

[north brook]

Ya missilis just too old

[upper grove]

who do you want to OL

[placid bloom]

when we get non-ramping Missilis cdr

[lone sequoia]

missilis, tetra, elysion/pilgrim

tetra is like 50+ units and missilis less than 20

[placid bloom]

waiting on cooldown on 2nd burst cycle in 2026

[tropic summit]

just give me a new broken fire code unit to kill zizx and possibly within 1 month and a half

[undone blaze]

Yeah, you're right

[north brook]

Main problem with missilis is theres not been a new unit usable for it since ein/quency(?)

[swift mango]

Right now I lack 4 body and 2 arm, 1 head, 1 leg for units I already built.
Next Collab they would bring another 2 attacker.

[tropic summit]

so ye that upgrade is pretty gud imo, they'll easily kick you into 2RL unless they run absolutely 0 feed teams

[lone sequoia]

yep, kill lib and make her fire

[placid bloom]

Arcanalt burst will be weapon swap to machine gun with true damage

[tropic summit]

[lone sequoia]

laplace treasure

[north brook]

Tetra mostly decent but their wave clear still sus

[upper grove]

the attacker spam is real, I'm also out of attacker abnormal with just building eve, asuka w, asuka f, raven, ada

[tropic summit]

i actually saw some ppl running a pretty good lappy + takina at least in last SR... that gave me some hope

[lone sequoia]

SG to MG?

[placid bloom]

yes, gotta get Tove buffed MG normals

[lone sequoia]

we have SG to sniper (sdoro) SMG to RL (nayuta/takina)

[north brook]

Mg on sg team would be funny

[swift mango]

And she will be attacker again

[lone sequoia]

swah is sniper to RL

[placid bloom]

well I think chance of her being B2 healer for SG team is not that low either

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

but who knows

they have no logic for how they do kit

look at Sora

shit made by team of AI

[north brook]

Dont rlly need another new fire sg unless its dps

[swift mango]

This whole game is made by AI.
Half AI game.

[tropic summit]

hey she's good for... for... for........ what is she good for again

[north brook]

Mbe 2nd arcana alt will be another old pilgrim treasure?

Modernia treasure unit to hyper buff extended burst

[swift mango]

If only she isn't Wind.

[placid bloom]

Arcanalt buff Crow dmg

[tropic summit]

you're an AI too, impersonating blood

[lone sequoia]

yep... they use AI in the correct way, but still too much AI and no real progress/content

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/office-no-2

[lone sequoia]

surface is dead

CA beta for more than a year

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/they-got-me-anime-dying-anime-gif-1761379066486606081

[tropic summit]

i'm so glad it is, imagine if that thing passed feedbacks

[lone sequoia]

no liberation units...

[tropic summit]

we'd be stuck with one of the most boring and stupid re-used assets mode

[north brook]

I miss the balance changes from surface mode

[lone sequoia]

it was just a worse version of the blabla missions with a cheap and laggy map

[tropic summit]

they almost got off with using chibis and repetitive dumb ass gameplay

[north brook]

Extra rocks/gear xp, and flat elem/atk bonuses to lessen burden of perfect OLs

[tropic summit]

they could just pick one of their best minigames and slap "surface content" on them, i'd be ok with it

[lone sequoia]

they can just go with a city builder and add more loading screens/stage to avoid the lag in the game

[swift mango]

It good game mode for extra rocks.

[rich quail]

I want the Suica Game ripoff

[swift mango]

Minimal time to play

[north brook]

They still not given those rocks back

[tropic summit]

ye but give me a fun game mode to earn those rocks else just give them free in the first place without wasting my time

[hardy bison]

I miss the rewards 🥲

[rich quail]

In there

… like swimwear

[tropic summit]

i'd rather not be stuck with that mode than have extra rewards

[swift mango]

Remove stamina system that thing suck for a side game inside a game.

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/running-fast-shield-captain-america-gif-4358613762330982553

[raven plover]

swimsuit crow ?!

[lone sequoia]

yep, they nerfed the rocks from AI because surface mission had some mats daily... and we never got a good amount of rocks back

i get like 0~1 rocks every day

[tropic summit]

not just stamina, the whole walking back and forth cuz side missions kept changing locations slightly

[swift mango]

Walk is fine, that's where movement skill come to use.

[north brook]

We are just back to normal and it hurts

[raven plover]

with gigaluck on rolling what you want

[north brook]

Cant afford to invest much again

[upper grove]

selling us stuff and being hot

[tropic summit]

are we really accepting those kind of minigames as standard?... have we fallen that low just for the sake of gaining rocks?

[upper grove]

the latter is not anything special in a game like this though

[swift mango]

From a guy who got 25% Emi in 20 rocks

[tropic summit]

more like a requirement to sell during banner when the unit comes out

[raven plover]

yea just once never again 😭

[swift mango]

There is nothing bad about killing rapture.

[tropic summit]

you know i meant the minigame itself

[placid bloom]

imagine SPA gave rock, we would all be bronze

[tropic summit]

it makes sense lore wise but it's adapted so poorly that a gameboy game is more fun than that minigame

[swift mango]

The puzzle was fun.

[tropic summit]

damn we coping hard on this one

[upper grove]

I'm not a huge arcana fan (I don't dislike her), but her getting an alt this early doesn't surprise me at all, she has a fun personality + is hot. Same like why ppl like velvet, just that one is way more direct and seductive

[swift mango]

Well, ofc not fun if you can't solve it yourself.

[tropic summit]

also happens to meet the CEO personal preferences

[upper grove]

his wife created helm after all

[lone sequoia]

100 rocks for first ele line on lib... never forget

[tropic summit]

i've a feeling you'd sell yourself for any minigame that offers rocks as reward, regardless of how much it sucks

[swift mango]

maybe CEO is secretly Hime simp too

[upper grove]

surface mode

[lone sequoia]

is hime hair red?

[tropic summit]

except hime is an arcana simp

CEO and hime both arcana simps

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

but i agree she's cute

[upper grove]

cute and fun, bubbly

not like doom and gloom label

[swift mango]

Her squad is actually the best squad artistic wise. But she isn't the style I favor.

[tropic summit]

label is the type you do a lot of things with, while arcana is the type you take out for a date

[tropic summit]

yeah she doesn't need to be fixed or wants to murder you or is thicc

[swift mango]

What's about Sora.

[placid bloom]

Label is the one that dream about doing things and thinks it's real, you were actually on date with Arcana the entire time

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[upper grove]

that sora event lobby screen though

pushing skk to the ground

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are

[lone sequoia]

the best about sora was the theme song

[upper grove]

I still like Mana's more, that angle

[tropic summit]

if nikke could get pregnant we'd probably have more than enough to have 2 football teams

think i remember someone sharing how many nikke actually got theoretically laid with SKK

[undone blaze]

Is double taunt viable? My Noah has pretty low hp and gets killed easily most of the time.

[tropic summit]

put your noah p5 or with biscuit, don't bother p1 or p2 until she's invested

[undone blaze]

and move anis to p2?

[tropic summit]

no because you'd be bursting with anis

to run noah p5 you need only B1s and B3s in front

you can use her as a clip RL battery for a glass cannon, but she'd be a tad wasted

[swift mango]

That including Label

[tropic summit]

did we get laid with her already?

i didn't even read her event story

[upper grove]

no in her advise she faints before even doing something

[placid bloom]

she thinks a lot of stuff happens

[swift mango]

I think so in one of the advise

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

but nothing happened

[tropic summit]

so just delusions

[upper grove]

iirc in her advise last part she wants to go to the hotel with you but then passes out before even getting there or something along those lines

[placid bloom]

her imagination too intense for her body to handle

[swift mango]

Well, we need some resource that record all the advise. Most of her advise was delulu yeah.

[tropic summit]

ye i'm looking i found a few older reddit posts

[placid bloom]

do you believe Google AI

[tropic summit]

shikikan been busy

[swift mango]

Idk, I just remember in one advise she asked to stay the night and I replied yes.

[placid bloom]

12+ game

[tropic summit]

a few more

[upper grove]

Mustang masterplan using his tetra nikkes to be majority of skk harem

[tropic summit]

[upper grove]

that's what I call entertainment

[tropic summit]

last 4 i didn't mention

[upper grove]

Velvet best seductive girl in nikke for this purpose

[tropic summit]

didn't know bready gave us oral tho

[upper grove]

bready advise story is just some weird lick fetish tbh

[swift mango]

Yeah, maybe I remember it wrong and it was Velvet

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

All well and good until they put Soline, Rei and Crust to the list.

[rich quail]

Chadmander

the best pokemans

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1470493035912630428/1470857157099655352/1770749985587.jpg?ex=69b85379&is=69b701f9&hm=9b80afc292a26dd7a494e635a1606bdc54354d58edf42804b8d223d5eefcefb0&

[upper grove]

[rich quail]

[strong hull]

None

[upper grove]

thien no MA?

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Rookie does not get merch

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

work harder

[umbral crown]

Imagine losing Ein role

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-gif-10054675685696503316

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Echo got demoted and Thien got erased.

[tropic summit]

MA are going through turmoil this week

[swift mango]

Well, merch getting expensive now so you should try to earn some.

[tropic summit]

what are you suggesting? i care 'bout my freedom

if i became an MA i couldn't keep mocking you and your sister

[swift mango]

Just do what you are currently doing. Maybe a bit harder for the merch.

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-hitting-yourself-nelson-muntz-gif-20467312

[glad meteor]

Become MA, and send me the merch

[tropic summit]

nah freedom is better, help when you want and disappear when you want

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

I prob wouldnt even be able to use the merch. Too goom

[swift mango]

MA doesn't help people every day so don't worry.

[upper grove]

freedom and being able to diss ppl > merch

[tropic summit]

wydm retro helped peeps all the days regularly , wrote guides, made videos

that's a true MA

[upper grove]

retro is one of the few good MAs

[glad meteor]

Ye

[swift mango]

Just need to be @haughty mortar and @leaden canyon level to get the merch

[upper grove]

many slop guides or misinfo by rookie MAs

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

if not the best

[glad meteor]

Make a guide 10 years before the event comes out

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Make a guide 10 year after

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jail-right-to-jail

[tropic summit]

will be useful for when they'll re-run nikke private servers

after EoS in a few months

but no this game can't EoS, you all go0ns gonna keep buying skins

[glad meteor]

Privaty servers

[tropic summit]

I'd serve privaty

[upper grove]

can only pull privaty there

[lunar pawn]

@broken lark can I grab 2nd and you grab 3rd?

Kendie now attacking me again

[upper grove]

how can I resist that privaty one

[lunar pawn]

What can I run here anyway?

[vapid lake]

1 more day

[upper grove]

feed her the final super glue

[glad meteor]

[haughty mortar]

Wasn't retro a higher level than me?

[swift mango]

Yes

If he isn't high level then no one is

[haughty mortar]

Then he would've qualified. It IS sad that great ones have left our MA ranks

[swift mango]

@fathom rock

Oh he isn't MA anymore

[maiden hare]

Hi guys, could I get some help with these teams, I have most PvP units built thank you

[tropic summit]

2RL indom DPS against T1
skip T2
2.5RL DPS noah-biscuit archetype against T3

e.g.:

teams assumed not in deficit (check by multiplying for 0.846 enemy CP score against your team)
vestiTU assumed 5%+CS
centi flexable with helmT if you check links and ensure SWHA is linked and lowest HP in link
laplaceT flexable with bsoda or drakeT

[vapid lake]

this pose getting memed on

[lunar pawn]

thoughts?

[tropic summit]

lib in T2 can be any DPS flex

ein/ada or similar

[glad meteor]

Rapi

[tropic summit]

try keep it 3RL or 3.5RL though

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-thinking-council-peepo-pepe-gif-11419901161593509716

[lunar pawn]

they're singing golden in the oscars

cheers

[quick lake]

looks good though

[leaden canyon]

I mean I also got demoted from expert, which tbf I wasn't around a lot for a little bit

[tropic summit]

they need to do this for everyone, looks good

[vapid lake]

[leaden canyon]

I still cant believe mooey got demoted again

that mf is on more than me these days

[vapid lake]

Clearly mooey doesnt write enough chatgpt ahhh slop guides

[tropic summit]

ok maybe not everyone

[maiden hare]

Thank you, I will try it when I'm home

[small gale]

Little Mermaid's stun from bubble status is a one time thing right?

[tropic summit]

that look

[tropic summit]

nope can re-apply as long as she keeps reaching ammo count over and over

that is relevant for example to mitigate indoms

stun during FB sucks balls for indom

[small gale]

what's FB?

[lunar pawn]

mm those won't push me to 3.5rl

[tropic summit]

full burst

[lunar pawn]

4rl at most

[tropic summit]

add in CS%

[lunar pawn]

still won't

[tropic summit]

change nuker in T3

[glad meteor]

She needs to enter the field again to add the debuff on the enemy to stun them. Through siren being res’d

[lunar pawn]

vesti in t3, lib in t2 works?

[tropic summit]

ye vesti is also open if you wanna on T3

ein/vestiTU is fine

[glad meteor]

Can only stun while debuff is up. After enemy is stunned i think its removed

[tropic summit]

i saw siren stunning multiple times on long battles

but i dunno maybe i'm wrong

[glad meteor]

Maybe she got res’d. She can stun each nikke once

[tropic summit]

oh could be

[glad meteor]

Unless she somehow enters the field again

[tropic summit]

no it was with rapunzel in it

if i find the vid i'll share

[glad meteor]

the cuprit found

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn ye double checked, with vestiTU even without CS% you retain natural 2RL

record as i'm testing HP on cast on rapu 3RL-3.5RL when dealing against SWHA

should be around 30-50%

[lunar pawn]

@broken lark all done you can hit kendie

I'll drop vid in a sec

[tropic summit]

cheers

[lunar pawn]

cheers to you as well

[lunar pawn]

scarlet hitting those counters though

[tropic summit]

your opponent rosanna is pretty well invested, still lethal without cloak on, guess it was a good call to put cindy as backup plan afterall

other teams went sort of expected, their indom ended up happening on biscuit because lib poked her

lovely

[lunar pawn]

[upper grove]

Thanks

[upper grove]

Wtf

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

MAs smh

[lunar pawn]

legends say MAs get demoted if they don't write a guide every 24 hours

[tropic summit]

there gotta be a way to cheese it, e.g. editing guides or making multiple part guides

or you could update guides and re post them updated

[glad meteor]

Make a guide about a guide

[quick lake]

version changelog every 24hour

[upper grove]

Guideception

[small gale]

the speed of siren's stun is constant right? there's nothing that can speed up the 50 shots?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1

[tropic summit]

nothing exists at least up to today that increases shooting speed pre burst

until siren can shoot faster, her stun is locked at 2RL B2 time frame

[glad meteor]

Just wait till 3.5. 60fps arena

[upper grove]

Looks like MA need to get dorowhipped to write more guides

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

MA rankings so weird

[lunar pawn]

the trick is to answer a question in a non #nikke channel once every 24h

doesn't matter if you answer correctly, the mods don't know either

[tropic summit]

is that how they fish exp?

[glad meteor]

Age restricted

[small gale]

Thanks

[lunar pawn]

mods are too active there, no point

[small gale]

sorry, what does 2RL b2 mean?

[upper grove]

So just yap and misinfo?

[lunar pawn]

it's in the rank name

[quick lake]

Misinfo Acad anyways

still dk why pvp chat is on slowmode

we have been drama free for a long while

[lunar pawn]

nikke and questions are both at 15s, here's 5s, not that bad

[tropic summit]

it's a unit we use to measure timings

[quick lake]

thats truee

[upper grove]

What drama caused it

[quick lake]

idk, just know that something happened and pvp char became slowmode

[tropic summit]

@small gale to help you understand, see this graphic red line, it's when siren stun happens, on a team without CS% that's slightly before noah B2 on 2RL would go off

[quick lake]

I still rmb pvp chat being super dead and empty. Now its a yap chat

[upper grove]

Not as bad as team building

That one is real yap fest

[quick lake]

both are nice yap channels

[upper grove]

I just know now when to avoid tb channel

[tropic summit]

probably because we tend to gang on the toxic ones rather fast

keeping the streets clean here

[upper grove]

Just like my TCG locals

[visual willow]

@tropic summit

I have made some upgrades and both noah + biscuit are at +16% cs / Jackal has SR 5 doll / MoranT / Rosanna is medium/somewhat built
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTUxNTU5NjcwODEwNDc3NDU2MTE%3D&type=combat

Here is my blablalink if it helps. Could I get some updated SP Defense?

[lunar pawn]

I have more msgs than expected in tb

[tropic summit]

oh no...

[lunar pawn]

must have used the channel thinking it was questions or smth

[lunar pawn]

that's more than me in this whole server

[upper grove]

Useful yap

[tropic summit]

set blabla link to public, looks like it's private

[lunar pawn]

did you guys see my unboxing pics btw

[upper grove]

What did you unbox

[small gale]

I think I'm using the same calculator. Is there a way to beat the B1 of an opponent with a 2.5RL team? Here's the gen each tier estimated:

85.61188
109.99766
146.94264
156.20505
193.15003

[lunar pawn]

#questions message
#questions message
#1244507173862510675 message

[small gale]

Is there a team with a B3 that is faster than the B1 of this?

[quick lake]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1153017654332883055
For learning purporses

[upper grove]

Nice thanks for the scarlet in particular, I'm still waiting for mine to be shipped

[quick lake]

Oooo the scarlet one is nice

[upper grove]

I just have 8 small doros so far

[tropic summit]

if enemy B1 is 2.5RL, then it is siren weak, unless SWHA is present

[lunar pawn]

that scarlet was a steal ngl, 19k, when it's being resold now in amiami for 30k+

mandarake ftw

[upper grove]

My scarlet was supposed to arrive in January

[small gale]

what's SWHA? Sorry for all the follow ups

[lunar pawn]

I like that she came with that illustration board

[lunar pawn]

what's the hold up? customs? or sketchy seller?

[lunar pawn]

snow white heavy arms

[upper grove]

Did you also get the sbs one from goodsmile?

[small gale]

thank you x2

[lunar pawn]

thinking of getting the one that's coming out january 2027

[upper grove]

Idk I purchased directly from goodsmile Europe

[lunar pawn]

other ones are too expensive, like 35k+ yen

[upper grove]

My small doros from amiami arrived 1 month after release

[lunar pawn]

nice

[upper grove]

The matis and shifty doros are also cute

[lunar pawn]

I wanted to get them but didn't like you weren't guaranteed all of them

[tropic summit]

for T3 a few notes:

• run that team in shooting range
• confirm vestiTU and drakeT are linked (enter battle, pause, click on the units, check "jumping jackal buff")
• in particular, vestiTU and whoever is the other linked unit, the other unit that is not vestiTU needs to have higher HP, equip vigor in case it isn't without it and recheck (repeat process above but check HP instead)
• linked unit should be p5, unlinked unit p4, ideally vestiTU or liberalio need to be the indom target, prefer vestiTU out of the 2

[upper grove]

Huh all 6 were in my box

[lunar pawn]

think the doro face was pretty much a lottery

didn't sit right with me

[upper grove]

I knew you could buy them as a lucky draw but if you purchase the box all 6 are included, iirc just the mischievous doro was lottery yeah

I sadly missed the doro action figure, after I saw a review that one is so good

[lunar pawn]

I don't like figmas/action figures

and the review on modernia's figma didn't do my opinion any favors lol

[upper grove]

Yeah that one was

Doro was funny enough to make me regret not purchasing it, 2 figures and they have the plastic bags with the meme oranges and mop

[lunar pawn]

yea looked pretty good

isn't it in stock in mandarake though

[spiral onyx]

1/12 scale Nendoroids
1/7 scale Figmas
1/3 scale Dollfies

Go big or go home

~~1/1 scale customized s3x doll ~~

[lunar pawn]

it is in stock in mandarake

Idk how much was the original price

[lunar pawn]

kurumi doll by prime studio?

[upper grove]

It is?

[lunar pawn]

pic above

[upper grove]

Oh didn't load for some reason, now I see it

[lunar pawn]

original price seems to have been 4200 yen though, so more expensive

there's a lot of doro merch going around, this one could get a rerelease?

[spiral onyx]

Not posable

Need a jointed one for... Action poses

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Doro doll exists

Is cursed

[upper grove]

[swift mango]

Well deserved

[visual willow]

Liberalio and DrakeT are linked, I don't think my vesti has high enough Atk

[tropic summit]

that's fine until she's built use indom lib with vesti as offburst and battery

turn the team ordering into this:

jackal lib vestiTU blanc drakeT

ensure drakeT is higher HP than lib, give drakeT vigor cube if it's not

[tight finch]

How does lib indom do? Ive always felt she does not much outside burst

[crystal flicker]

There's better unit that wants Indom (SWHA/VesT/Scarlet)

[tight finch]

Yeah im just curious to using her on indom at all

Unless its keeping up gen for specific acc

[crystal flicker]

It's gonna be like Slow Cindy, but faster

[tropic summit]

on attack teams it can be good, on defense she's milder compared to SWHA or vestiTU

less threat overall

[tight finch]

Oh and i saw this earlier so was curious

[tropic summit]

situational team for attack

don't bother using this on def, very abusable

[tight finch]

Its ca team lol

[tropic summit]

ye i figured, but CA is RNG based, it could do well it could go sh*t

the objective of that team is trying to bypass bay and noah teams by being 4RL delayed nuke and ofc biscuit lock directly counters SGs

[upper grove]

I just had to get the doro now, thanks

Dev notes?

[tight finch]

Yeah i wasnt sure if was some tech or its just random in general , im not even using blanc this run cos

[tropic summit]

it's trying to counter specific archetype that are common in CA

it's all mind games to increase ur win ratio against teams you expect to deal with on a certain %

[quick lake]

https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail_m.html?content_id=835e7b26a7fafa4df8ab738a81b2b9f6aa3a
New devs notes out. More rocks yay

[tight finch]

Hitting 9 actually worth

[upper grove]

Time to clean

[tropic summit]

omg

god save us

[lunar pawn]

only important thing in the notes: more rocks

[tropic summit]

expecting nikke players to actually read large amount of text

[crystal flicker]

AK player:

[lunar pawn]

expecting nikke players to actually read

[upper grove]

Gacha players and reading

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[quick lake]

Will probably be like the xlud/xmica event, but more yap

[upper grove]

Just spring themed huh

[tropic summit]

jesus christ

the only good thing in these patch notes, aside extra rocks

[quick lake]

200k??? thats alot. R99 was like ~50k

[upper grove]

How are they gonna top mecha shifty this year

[quick lake]

Having more voiced events are nice

[lone sequoia]

re:zero rerun

[strong hull]

Im out atp , focusing on my job is priority

Still gaming but not yapping sequence

You can see im not alway 24/7 chat on tb anymore

[crystal flicker]

It's Andersen Nikke

[umbral crown]

then... Matis Pass

[tight finch]

[small gale]

I don't want him using my shower ever again

[umbral belfry]

[wild hemlock]

[umbral belfry]

let me have this

[rich quail]

Could be April Fool’s event

Hopefully will be a return to really funny

Only good thing about last year’s April Fool event was Mecha Shifty

[ionic rose]

Bro arknight is the only game where i really want spoilers, like i just watch a lore video instead of reading a textbook

[spiral onyx]

Meanwhile FGO at 5mil+ words
https://fate-go.us/howto/story.html#:~:text=The main story of Fate,in excess of five million.

[crystal flicker]

I rather read fate doujins tbh

[spiral onyx]

"read"

Id be impressed if all the Fate doujinshis combined even contain 1 mil words

[crystal flicker]

It's not just the words, but also the expressions

[compact eagle]

I might have missed it while reading the pvp mechanics articles, but what do clip RLs and SGs do exactly that make them better in pvp? They just reload more often?

[vapid lake]

They have higher burst gen

[compact eagle]

Oh that's it? Just a higher value per shot? Anti climactic

[rich quail]

What kinds of doujinshi?

[spiral onyx]

The plot heavy ones of course

Very big and heavy plot

[mystic rain]

s/o ankoman

[rich quail]

two big heavy plots…

… of land

… mass

[warm monolith]

THEYRE GIVING US FREE CLAY SKIN :D

[gaunt pulsar]

where the info from haven't seen anything about that

[fast nest]

[gaunt pulsar]

oh, it's in patchnotes, didnt noticed they are out

[warm monolith]

Yep, heres all the skins

[worthy knoll]

Imagine if Chatterbox was actually Oswald. And Marian was actually Freesia, that was why Chatterbox was so fixated on her

[shell hazel]

have we seen the vesti one yet?

[warm monolith]

Nope, only priv

[hollow lagoon]

I need my Privity teacher

[warm monolith]

Im getting my clay one for free

[hollow lagoon]

(Would love to have helm teacher tho)

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

(2nd Bay skin when shift up)

Give her a swimsuit skin and my soul is yours

[hollow lagoon]

Idk if swim suit can beat her current skin Tbf

It’s already so exposed

[warm monolith]

More skin≠better
More content=better

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

A wholesome swimsuit would be way better than one revealing

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit almost 500 lvl no more deficit

[raven plover]

why open box now new chapters soon

[warm monolith]

(i got stuck on tetra tower and i cant take a lose i know its dumb)

[gaunt pulsar]

well that "soon" is like 39days away still, might as well pvp like a normal human for a while

[warm monolith]

This is the guy i wanna try and go against, @tropic summit will cook the teams i hope :D

[shell hazel]

80 sync gap pointless

also you may get 501 but look how close they are to 581

they just do that and you're gapped again

[warm monolith]

Yeah ik, still i want to beat him even if at least once

Hes the weakest whale

The other guy is 600 som

Behemoth looks doable

[shell hazel]

501 yes should be

snek is also doable at 501 if you got a good SW and MoranT

I was 501 here when I did it, actually used anchor but didn't try without her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vefogEEHSs

need one of those new razer mice to get me a nikke skin and fix my deathadder dying issue 😄

[warm monolith]

Im currently 498 ran out of mats :D

But yeah ill try it, thanks

Do you have a team recommendetion for behemoth though? I plan to run crown/cindy/ein/siren/thelm but they die if i dont use thelm burst in some time

It looks doable with this team though im open for a better stable team

[finite scarab]

started rerolling after advice from the goats here. is this a settle angle? first multi pull

[shell hazel]

cindy is a great start, crown is the best start unit but.... small chance

Crown > Rapi RH > SWHA > other pilgrims prob

[oak smelt]

Cindy is a good unit for mid to late game bossing for electic weak but not that great for early to mid campaign pushing.
You definitely want a unit that can carry you for campaign pushing.
For mobbing she is just not good.

[mystic rain]

reroll for crown and ur campaign problems r solved

still best b2 support in game

[shell hazel]

chance of actually getting crown though is super slim

1/200 pilgrim on average. we have what like 20 pilgrims now?

[mystic rain]

rerolls r infinite

just a matter of how dedicated u wanna be

[shell hazel]

so 1/4000 (or less if we have less than 20)

you'll get very few early pulls though, I think a re-roll now starts with very little

[oak smelt]

Proabaly don't have enough rolls on rerolling account to unlock wish list, without wishlist pilgrim rate is around 1/3200 iirc

[shell hazel]

if you wanted to actually get a re-roll going I'd do it in the upcoming anni, likely more tickets per roll and you can start with the top tier anni unit as a primary goal

[mystic rain]

yea the extra pulls from events helps a lot with rerolling

[shell hazel]

plus you have a good banner to roll on

[mystic rain]

issue is u need to time ur rerolls with those..

[shell hazel]

when I started playing I made 5 accounts and picked the best of the 5

didn't want to burn out on re-rolling

I'd limit how many times you do it and note what each one gets to compare

[mystic rain]

last time i rerolled for a crown start was during bready event with the extra apology pulls

like 50 pulls per

now i think its like 20 with no extra tickets

[shell hazel]

yeah my cindy roll was about 50 rolls per try, which is a much more reasonable number. I don't think you'd get more than 10-20 now?

[mystic rain]

yea really need to time rerolls

[shell hazel]

so @finite scarab I'd probably suggest to make x accounts for re-rolls and prep them just before the anni

you can add them a few days before, I wouldn't do it now

[hollow lagoon]

[scarlet adder]

who wins this? up is left, down is right in vs screen

[shell hazel]

up is left down is right? 😄

https://tenor.com/view/action-drama-inception-hallway-running-gif-3309864

[scarlet adder]

i no longer know who atk or defends xD

so there you go

[shell hazel]

bottom/right defends

top/left attacks

apply that to your logic

[hollow lagoon]

Is that scarlet on top even 2 rl

[mystic rain]

id vote down

if that sg atk can kill link fast enough

[gaunt pulsar]

they also on huge invest difference

[mystic rain]

i meant round 2

[shell hazel]

69K rosanna, nice

[mystic rain]

round 3 also down

[mystic rain]

zero ol jackal or what

93k blanc but sr15???

[gaunt pulsar]

like 2piece ol maybe at our sync

[mystic rain]

tf is this

yea if we're just going by raw cp that sg team definitely should dumpster jackal

[hollow lagoon]

Looks like down out invest top

Other wise shit goes either way

[gaunt pulsar]

sg on def there, i just flipped screenshots, but still not looking good for vesti

[mystic rain]

just from first 3 rounds bottom wins

[hollow lagoon]

Slow Cindy could lose to sg no?

Happened to me before but dis is Moran version

Could end up bursting Mihara

[mystic rain]

yea rosa nukes mihara or someshit and sg kills itself

[hollow lagoon]

[mystic rain]

while moran and cindy just immune to autos

[scarlet adder]

ok thank you guys

[hollow lagoon]

Unless the soda is huge

But it ain’t huge so sad life

[mystic rain]

scratch that rosa wont even tickle mihara lmao

69k rosa thats literally 0 OL

wheres ur dmg xd

[gaunt pulsar]

and no doll

[hollow lagoon]

Gonna burst Mihara

[runic coral]

how to beat this team, rookie

[mystic rain]

slower indom

rosa

absolute vesti

ur own moran noah bisc helm

[shell hazel]

siren would likely screw with the indom on sw as well, if used in a good team that covers for her lack of burst gen

[mystic rain]

hell even scar s2 should kill blanc p2

[shell hazel]

blanc p2 is very risky though, and is killable with vesti + some other stuff

[crystal flicker]

Siren + taunt

[mystic rain]

blanc p2 with no jackal or bisc tells me the guy doesnt know pvp

[tight finch]

Blanc feels kinda redundant with moran anyways

since she gonna last till indom pretty much over anyways

[mystic rain]

siren wont work cuz blanc doesnt taunt so siren wont hit p2

unless u kill snow p1 fast

that team also 2RL so even if moran taunts she would have already bursted

so stun is useless

[crystal flicker]

Stun SWHA, let HelmT burst hit taunter, rest just wipe

[mystic rain]

stunning snow doesnt do anything, indom would probably go to snow still

and snow would wipe u with indom 2 shots

[runic coral]

👶

[crystal flicker]

She's not bursting, all projectiles got taunted

[mystic rain]

whos taunting?

moran?