pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

Could be too late

Nvm

[spiral onyx]

I dunno what you expect with two wet noodle slaps lol

2RL means running batteries

You aren't getting buffs, they will be wet noodle slaps 🙁

Trina is probably our only clip RL that also buffs

And I guess Helm but it's a different kind of buff

[hollow lagoon]

I mean

It’s not like I can test how much buff I need for stuff

[quick lake]

Hmmm I did not know that xbrid had aoe

Kinda scuffed

[hollow lagoon]

Problem is entering full burst

Could be too late

Which mean depends on frames

Might as well wipe with actual b3

But hay it ain’t a electric aoe

[covert lintel]

Better buff

[quick lake]

zwei?

[covert lintel]

Perfect for delayed burst

[quick lake]

Doesnt buff nayuta though

[umbral crown]

No yet but gonna think in some

[tidal lichen]

IF she can survive

big if

[swift mango]

SW give dmg taken debuff with her normal attack better for dmg than helm.

[runic coral]

hello gentlemen, I had the misfortune of placing 3rd in a whale bracket and that means I'll have to participate in champion arena
does anyone have any teams I can just copy paste

[lunar pawn]

misfortune of getting 3k gems huh

[runic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-kid-happy-dog-lollipop-gif-7978029953394407722

[umbral crown]

Imagine

[hollow lagoon]

Man

Ca

My brain juice run dry

Not that there was much to begin with

[fair pivot]

What we cooking for CA

Is it worth to use sg team if sg units not very invested?

[oak hatch]

U only need invested rosanna and nayuta for it to run decently well

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

Time to see if derprooni

[lunar pawn]

scarlet sacc

[fair pivot]

I see, might try it then if I can't make some other frankenstein cope team. Not like I'm beating you in the bracket anyway if it comes down to it

[hollow lagoon]

Let the cultis do his sacc

Oh nos

I like sacc, my cultness was preordained

[oak hatch]

just make sure Rosanna is max sr doll so she doesn’t die easily to scarlet, and nah there’s always a chance to win with good matchups

[mystic rain]

@swift mango can u build me 5 teams for champs :3

[leaden canyon]

I wonder how this would do, as long as noir is above 70% health she has caster attack buff of 14% constantly. unsure if that would be better than just straight up extra AOE from brid though.

[quick lake]

Yeah, I thought about using Noir before. Dmg still slightly short, or maybe my Nayuta not invested enough

[leaden canyon]

Would probably want full crit rate on nayuta plus lots of attack and just cross fingers

[quick lake]

I was thinking some Mast Nayuta RH clip clip, but falls short of 2RL

Need some passive crit rate buffers maybe

[leaden canyon]

would velvet work at all, probably not because she needs to full charge shoot during full burst and nayuta first attack will probably hit before the full charge from velvet

[swift mango]

Better just try to copy pasta if you had the units and investment, my self-built teams are bad.

Would try to help if you lacking units like Noah or sth.

[leaden canyon]

is it possible to run label b1 on defense here or will a SWHA just break her shield easy with her passive

[swift mango]

Shield breaks but then she recovers.

[leaden canyon]

in time for her burst?

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit @swift mango happy Thursday

[hollow lagoon]

dice roll

[leaden canyon]

[gaunt pulsar]

depends on enemy, if she is badly build she might get stunned twice before 2rl b1 burst happens - causing her to miss her doing anything in the fight besides ele res. if her shield is too good or enemy is weak - she might lose it so late that she still will be in stun when b1 happens

[leaden canyon]

well hood it is I guess

[hollow lagoon]

some times u just have to trust the girlfailure powers

[quick lake]

have u seen the latest browndust2 girlfailure?

[hollow lagoon]

i dont play bd2

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

So this defense doesn't work, any suggestions as I am out of ideas

[hollow lagoon]

i post girlfilure because @swift mango supposedy likes girlfailure

[gaunt pulsar]

personally i think at p5 she is should be mostly fine, but i haven't tested her in that position much, but if she is sole b1 in team if anything you just get stalled a little cause her self stun isn't that long

[hollow lagoon]

yeet maiden for ada

[leaden canyon]

k

[hollow lagoon]

u got emilia tho

how exciting

[leaden canyon]

got it set up like this now, I moved sifted around blanc ada and lap spots to make sure ada doesn't get indom in p3 if splashed by like a vesti and emilia, unsure if I actually need to worry about that though

guess I can do blanc p3 and just hope shes tanky enough to live

[hollow lagoon]

wouldent know breh

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-aaaaa-cry-help-anime-gif-24539456

[swift mango]

Up to ur luck

[leaden canyon]

any other changes you guys got

if hood version of nayuta team is losing would rosanna version work?

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon how does emilia burst work

i dont have her

maybe some times sanity is overrrated

mm

replace dead scarlet with emma for taunt

[leaden canyon]

has a charge time like SW and hits the whole team after

[swift mango]

It's like you first spending time to push a big shit down the toilet then small shits come after.

[hollow lagoon]

looks like it aint gonnnna fly

[swift mango]

She is like SW and Ada, would die when charging

[leaden canyon]

The only time I ever got emilia to work on defense was with a blanc team and 3 b3 on it

[mystic rain]

3 times champs winnerr is copy paster>?

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon @swift mango maybe sanity really is overrated

[leaden canyon]

lol

They would just have to siren stun noah and lib burst kill me pretty much

emilia charge time sucks

[hollow lagoon]

well

put label p1 and trina p1 with rumani then

[leaden canyon]

probably wont have her shield for burst then right?

labels shield

[hollow lagoon]

well shiet

o i have a idea

u have a shield on top of label shield

how does that evenw ork

[tulip quest]

Blood is flexing that his bad teams wins CA vs our hard worked C.A teams that don't win C.A

[leaden canyon]

label has her own shield and stuns herself when it breaks, needs the shield for an attack buff

She can reapply it but if shes p1 I feel like thats troll

[hollow lagoon]

criteria is cant have siren stun noah

correct?

what's the CS on your emilia

[leaden canyon]

well label p1 has its own problems

[leaden canyon]

17%

[hollow lagoon]

okidokie

[tulip quest]

BTW I made test teams with Noise 2rl Siren stuns her sometimes sometimes doesn't stuns her

can you guys speculate what might be the problem?

[hollow lagoon]

taunt timing?

[tulip quest]

is this the legendary RL whiff perhaps?

Noise is p1

[leaden canyon]

if its against p1/p2 noise noah then its taunt timings from however much cs they have

[tulip quest]

yea she kinda always taunts Siren, Siren also p1 btw

[tulip quest]

I see does it mean Siren stuns faster?

[gaunt pulsar]

against what, in what team?

[leaden canyon]

no, siren would not stun faster

[wind kelp]

My brain: "Do not run this, it'll fail, it's half spaghetti built from random inputs."
My heart: "But...experiment!" 😄

[tulip quest]

hmmm wait I will open Nikke

[tulip quest]

I see must be RL whiff then

the stun was kinda inconsistent

[leaden canyon]

was the stun always going onto noise?

or is there also a noah

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/great-scott-great-scott-back-to-the-future-scientist-gif-5323843104746741743

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon what's cs of your noah and biscuit

[leaden canyon]

15

[hollow lagoon]

all of them?

what of rapunzel

[leaden canyon]

yeah both of them

rapu just 5%

[wind kelp]

I did tamper with it a bit, some choices were too odd, even for "let her cook" situations 😄

[glad meteor]

Centi burst?

[tulip quest]

as long as your having fun

[tulip quest]

My comp is above

[wind kelp]

When i get "guess all wrong" frame, i'll have eerything from the mode i want, so yeah, as far as current leauge goes, just have fun 😄

[tulip quest]

it stuns noise before burst sometimes it doesn't

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon 2 1/3 burst speed, mica happens after siren stun, label prevent lethal fast scar nuke, lib nuke cant make it in time most likely

[tulip quest]

is my question

why

[tulip quest]

I do different teams also every C.A sometimes hit sometimes miss

[wind kelp]

Yeah, and gotta break some ovums for an omelette.

[tulip quest]

I will focus Meta only if C.A not beta anymore

[tulip quest]

I like seeing different teams interacts with different teams

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon slap adju on emilia make it just outside of siren stun so it seems, 2 1/4 rl

[gaunt pulsar]

helm burst gen consists of 2.8% base gen + 14.31% from skill 1 + 2.8% from additional shot, when she shoots p5 cindy into her decoy additional doesn't happen, so she loses 2.8% per shot, and because you dont have slow climbing burst gen units you forced to wait until she shoots 3rd time

[quick lake]

RH pierce and a few nayuta shots and you're 2RL

[noble python]

How much CS on Noah does 1 need to be outside of Siren stun?

[quick lake]

11% team wide

[hollow lagoon]

ur batteries need to be 11%

[leaden canyon]

Noise is actually out of siren stun range before she bursts

[tulip quest]

oh that might explain it

[hollow lagoon]

@noble python note i'm not doing a noah dodge stun, i'm doing a mica cure stun

[tulip quest]

yea that's the weird thing she gets stunned sometimes thus rapunzel gets to burst

[leaden canyon]

hes probably whifing shots on you then

[tulip quest]

yea that's the only explanation RL whiff

I just find it weird

I even have noise at least 7% cs

[leaden canyon]

but actually siren p1 shouldn't be whiffing shots

[tulip quest]

Mystery Solved thanks guys

[leaden canyon]

whiffing works because of timings when a unit goes into cover to reload

[tulip quest]

yea thanks man

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon so yeah u wanna give this maddness a go lool?

[leaden canyon]

I can already tell it wont work in my bracket unfortunately

[tulip quest]

seems Meta except 3rd team

[hollow lagoon]

mica should cure siren stun

[hollow lagoon]

i guess people are too high sync and more buffs are needed to break comps

[leaden canyon]

yeah pvp in a rough spot

[hollow lagoon]

in ca only moran comps feels it can put resistace to vesti

[swift mango]

I haven't won since season 6.

[hollow lagoon]

i havent won in a long time

[leaden canyon]

so rosanna will just nuke emilia there, vesti will just kill moran team there and vesti team can just be killled by a slower blanc

[tulip quest]

exactly lol blood is flexing

[swift mango]

Not as long as me, I won 3rd time since you didn't even won once.

People nowadays use spreadsheets and win ratio shit to make their team. Not some simple test like in the early days. The meta teams are good just follow it.

[tulip quest]

gotta give your opponents puzzles so they have a chance

[hollow lagoon]

u cant have vesti killing moran team and slower blanc happen at the same time

single buff vesti is not pushing through team 1

[leaden canyon]

she can do it without blanc

at least mine can

[hollow lagoon]

no she cant

your could but

like

[umbral belfry]

@wild hemlock

[hollow lagoon]

what are the chances of other vesti could

[leaden canyon]

Bay isn't blocking vesti though

[hollow lagoon]

bay on moran can block my lib nuke, bay prob can block vesti

[umbral belfry]

nah, bay doesn't block vesti at all

[leaden canyon]

Vesti nuke is different

[umbral belfry]

moran's dr + helm does help against vesti, but eventually (assuming vesti is well-built), she'll kill them

[hollow lagoon]

only blanc vesti has no chance

[umbral belfry]

deserved

[urban wave]

Can I get help with sp pvp teams? I got noise today and these are the nikkes I got. I assume defense is 3 well rounded teams and attack is 2 cracked teams.

[umbral belfry]

too many times have a seen vesti indom lose to moran x helm bc they couldn't break through (moran last survivor)

[quick lake]

Maybe need to build 4x atk 4x def Moran to surive indom besti

[tulip quest]

whats the fun in that? Why take other chickens make ur own chicken and make it fight the META more fun

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon this is ca and i'm core 7 vesti loss

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-vs-chicken-family-guy-fighting-chicken-gif-15214385

[umbral belfry]

yeah, if the indom vesti isn't that built, it's not surprising that moran can win

[leaden canyon]

CA is different to SP though

[hollow lagoon]

yean ca units are squishier

like sure opponent can break through with vesti on ada, but what are they gonna do against your vesti on ada then?

[tulip quest]

ur ada less brotha

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral belfry]

just get 4 atk vesti without indom and win

[hollow lagoon]

learned that the hard way

[umbral belfry]

or if you're running indom, make sure you have the ammo or else you're bricking yourself

[tulip quest]

or 4 crit rate like Keripo

[umbral belfry]

absolute

[leaden canyon]

so i have fought moran bay enough that all you have to do is moran noah biscuit vesti ada it and its dead

[hollow lagoon]

my besti has 21 shots

[umbral belfry]

how does your atk look

[hollow lagoon]

3 rolls like 27-30% something like

[umbral belfry]

yeahhh i'm not surprised

and just for that? your rocks are mine

[tulip quest]

that's good actually

[hollow lagoon]

u gib me rocks then

[umbral belfry]

too late

[hollow lagoon]

ill steal ur hamster's life span

[tulip quest]

I only have 5 and you still gonna steal it?

[umbral belfry]

no 45+ vesti atk i eat your rocks

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

i have 0

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/valverde-brain-meme-stupid-голова-болит-gif-6248631993543062896

start saving .5 coming

[stuck hearth]

noise kinda one of my day 1s and she eats real food.

[tulip quest]

I mean I only start saving today myself tho

[umbral belfry]

noise more atk than sw (just like me)

[tulip quest]

bro that noise is insane

Snow white be like "Not heavy enough more firepower please"

[umbral belfry]

that just shows that sw has very little or no atk rolls

and/or noise ate them all

[hollow lagoon]

i just wanted like 1 more ele on my moran, i got 6 rocks so i rolled the helmet trying to get a ele, 3rolls of line 1 cs and 2 rolls of line 1 cd and 1 roll of line 1cs+line2cd

[forest zodiac]

can someone help me with this

[tulip quest]

Might be so that Rossana hits noise instead

[tulip quest]

we weren't even Electric raid yet

[umbral belfry]

that depends on the rosa's position / if sw is the only attacker on their team i think

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

tho Moran scarlet Trina kinda Electric Meta right now

[umbral belfry]

they just might be a noise fan so i gotta respect it

altho now they can't run rapu on that team bc sw will never get ressed until she has more atk or noise doesn't die

[tulip quest]

I remember past comps like Noise Emma Scarlet Blanc Jackal

Noise Emma are Linked btw

[umbral belfry]

that poor scar

[tulip quest]

XD lots of heal tho

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry time to start a ritual to sap life spam/rock stolen on your animal friends

[umbral belfry]

[tulip quest]

that's kinda sad to hear

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/FilmRiot-magic-black-dark-KAuMz7XC91lsqeFgSt

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/evil-BZlNhp9L5WINi

[tulip quest]

Zant's running a Cult aye Matey

[hollow lagoon]

[gaunt pulsar]

check cp.
in t1 centi can be rumani
in t2 lapt can be xmaiden/rapu
in t3 just preferably not a really weak uninvested noise obv.

[wild hemlock]

[umbral belfry]

lock in

[random field]

should i replace sbs with cindy

[forest zodiac]

does moran needss treasure? I don't have treasure on her (not lb2)

[gaunt pulsar]

no, they have no protection or def units that you need to pass through heavily, so just regular or stage 2 is enough

[forest zodiac]

regular?

[gaunt pulsar]

non treasured moran*

[forest zodiac]

yea I tought you were talking about different phases of fav item

thanks, I'll give it a shot around reset time

[gaunt pulsar]

check if it's in cp range, or might need to adjust then

[forest zodiac]

well my t2 is certainly cp gapped

I'm trying to fix it atm

[gaunt pulsar]

they are on a slower side in it so we have some room to slot in some other unit in p5

can be sbs, can be alice, idk who else you have at a top

[forest zodiac]

rapi and alice are highest but them are not enough

my cindy is super duper big

this is with alice

[gaunt pulsar]

trina can be jackal, would it fix it?

[forest zodiac]

I thin would be pretty close or juuuust enough with
moran noah swha jackal alice

if that works

[gaunt pulsar]

we need

[forest zodiac]

nvm, somehow I miscalculated

[leaden canyon]

my I am out of ideas and do something crazy build

my bracket in SP cant beat t1 in rookie, so I just did that and decided to build teams around it

[forest zodiac]

thats without quantum on jackal or noah (with resil)

ordered by cp

maybe such cp gap would be ok?

[gaunt pulsar]

ic, well it still should be doable if moran is invested even on deficit, and you can use rapi there even without any quantums on jackal or noah, better if noah on tempering even

[forest zodiac]

I checked treasured moran recommended skill investements and 10-10-10 seems to be te case so I just 10-10-10 er from 4-7-7
so close

[forest zodiac]

done some rock feeding

[gaunt pulsar]

we in range then

[forest zodiac]

niiice

[scarlet adder]

lib s2 atk dmg buff, activates in pvp? are pvp nikkes seen as stage targets?

[gaunt pulsar]

nope

only her burst 50% attack buff and 160% atk% for 3s is active

[scarlet adder]

ahh ok, thanks

[bleak shale]

r those ur def teams?

[leaden canyon]

yeah those are defense

[bleak shale]

ill send u mine

if u want

[leaden canyon]

Sure I always like seeing what people run for defense

The blanc team for my bracket works, nobody beats it

unfortunately it uses all the important units really

[tropic summit]

glad backup plan in T2 worked but jesus christ T1 is wild

@gaunt pulsar nvm it isn't consistent afterall

either lib atk% OL dependant or C7 moran dependant

@lunar pawn if you ever try this again we'll give lib 1 more atk% buff, should ensure lethal then

[lunar pawn]

let me check lib line

[tropic summit]

can sub cindy for crown

or add RH instead of cindy

as long as you're 3.5RL - 4RL it will retain the timing

[tropic summit]

ye that's not a bad lib

lomarion's was around 45% atk

crown might fix your lethality on moran, worth a shot next time instead of cindy

blanc lib biscuit crown noise

[lunar pawn]

alright will try, if he doesn't change teams again

[tropic summit]

thanks

[lunar pawn]

kudos

[tropic summit]

that T5 is gonna take a ton of copium, as long as the other 4 are those i gave you you still hold a chance for qualifiers perhaps

post your box i can take a look

jackal siren swha blanc biscuit

siren higher HP than SWHA (give vigor to siren if needed)
you can test link and HP in shooting range

[gaunt pulsar]

https://youtu.be/t3JOTHYQt5U tried a different one recently, a little tighter on lib hp because noise no longer taunts moran targeting, but double buff now and easier to maintain indom

[lunar pawn]

can't use my moran since she's busy in t3

which should be more consistent once I get out of deficit

[river dune]

Ok

[lunar pawn]

does tpoli burst feed enemies like tcenti?

[tropic summit]

ye looks interesting

[gaunt pulsar]

could die to moran though probably

[haughty mortar]

Can I bother y'all for CA teams? This is my roster. Will also provide current teams

Major changes were MoranT SSR3 and PrivaTy SSR2.

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit is there any specific rules for using rossana on def teams?

[tropic summit]

you're not the one who dictates rules on defense, it's the attacker

assuming you wanna cover all bases, she should be p4 or at least jackal linked

cuz SWHA and p3 hitters exist

[marble saddle]

true but im just trying to get used to making teams other than blanc indom and noah invul
is this good enough for a cook for def?

jackal linked units are rossa and helm

[tropic summit]

that's a weak team scrap it

[marble saddle]

what improvements i can do?

[tropic summit]

you wanna run nayuta, run her natural 2RL with B1 buffer and siren resistance in p1

[marble saddle]

B1 buffer can be rumani? or needs to be another?

[tropic summit]

nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
nayuta trina helmt label emilia

centi/trina flexable
laplaceT/emilia flexable

if running laplaceT, quantum 7 is needed on both p2 and p5 (clip RL and laplaceT)

[gaunt pulsar]

as long as we aren't promoted to 3rl territory and lib can survive either with noise or on her own we actually can use ada instead of cindy as backup b3/lib buffer also i did the first one the way i did just because cindy cp/low gen/lack other options atm but there deffinitly a room to play around
also he was so close that hp after lib nuke just to lose in the end pretty wild for lb0 lib against c7 moran

[tropic summit]

also needs 8%CS on nayuta emilia version for siren resistance p1
needs 11%CS + quantum if nayuta laplaceT version for siren resistance p1

[marble saddle]

dont have label so that reduces my choice to number 1

[tropic summit]

that's fine label is just flex if you need RH somewhere else

[tropic summit]

yeah it was actually close, an extra buffer and probably still retains lethal there

the ada suggestion sounds good, will also add lifesteal for extra indom min/maxing

[worldly osprey]

@swift mango

[hollow oracle]

I thought my Noah would block damage in time to save my SWHA but I guess not

[tropic summit]

defender team

noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani

[tropic summit]

she can die to scarlet s2 pre 2RL B2

either way you still die to rosanna 2RL B1 if water code

[hollow oracle]

Yeah that's how she died

I knew defender team would be best but putting water code into it was actually pretty dumb ngl 💀

[tropic summit]

well swha is peculiar on her own, she procs scarlet s2 a tad too much

[gaunt pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-jail-gif-6700387382824604769

[tropic summit]

emilia and helmT can live through it unless really ugly RNG

[gaunt pulsar]

go to jail pls

[hollow oracle]

Good to know. Thx

[gaunt pulsar]

wrong ping

[glass wing]

okay round 1

[tropic summit]

too late, already stuck between bars

https://klipy.com/gifs/sousou-no-frieren-beyond-journeys-end-1

[glass wing]

for vestiTU she must have max ammunition capacity o element damage ?

or both ?

[haughty mortar]

Both

She only needs 2 max ammo though, so there's that

[tropic summit]

run this

nayuta cindy rumani biscuit miharaBC

[glass wing]

im already using rumani for round 1

[tropic summit]

show all 3 teams

[tropic summit]

oh oke glass cannon scarlet

[marble saddle]

guess im fqed

[tropic summit]

check if you're before the red linehttp://nikke.top/

[tropic summit]

run these

if noise is not available move jackal in p1 and use rapunzel in p2

e.g. jackal rapunzel helmt vestiTU noah

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

[glass wing]

faaa

[tropic summit]

did you run the right teams?

[hollow lagoon]

the images be too exciting for him

[tropic summit]

instructions unclear, cindy's boobas made him arrange teams in reverse

[hollow lagoon]

[glass wing]

you right

[tropic summit]

[glass wing]

[tropic summit]

slow cindy vs their vestiTU team
noise/noah vs their scarlet

[tropic summit]

ok that's better

@glass wing just blame @hollow lagoon for confusing you with cindy's large assets

[hollow lagoon]

[glass wing]

I was focusing in other things, this definitely his fault

[hollow lagoon]

btw rail u see my ping

[glass wing]

now just hoping the defense can handle that guy

[tropic summit]

the team you cooked? i skipped it cuz it was old you probably already solved

[crystal flicker]

Pls make me team for ca, i'm noob

[hollow lagoon]

mfker sends comps like a days later

ah shit ca

i need to cook for ca too

[lunar pawn]

should I get centi, blanc or xmaiden to sr15 first

[tropic summit]

just don't treasure centi to phase 2

[lunar pawn]

won't

[tropic summit]

whatever else you do it's fine

i'd say blanc first, you want her to live if she ever meets vesti

[hollow lagoon]

prob blanc if ur forced to p3 her some times

[lunar pawn]

blanc it is

[tropic summit]

ye i'd force blanc

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-smirk-3

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel 1 more day to weekend

can we make it

also they keep showing her without her mask, how long until we see her cutiepie face ingame

[austere marsh]

Hello I was attacking someone out of spite and ended up in Champion arena. Was wondering if someone could with teams?

[tropic summit]

box or blabla link set to public

[austere marsh]

Lemme find out the blabla thing

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[austere marsh]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtODg3NzMwMjA4NjQ4OTQ3MjA3Mg%3D%3D&type=normal

[gaunt pulsar]

set to public

[tropic summit]

ye aint public as lomarion mentioned

[austere marsh]

Ok fixed

[tropic summit]

works now

[haughty mortar]

What the hottie is this?

[gaunt pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1416056290609860658/blan.gif

[tropic summit]

that is white chocolate, or blanc

[haughty mortar]

I lnow >< But I thought for a sec official nikke had an N-SFW channel

[tropic summit]

blanc cindy biscuit mihara rumani

[tropic summit]

ok got your teams

[tropic summit]

did you take a video? helps a lot in understanding if positioning wise we need to fix it

cheers

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit Let me guess what I need to use against this

I'm pretty sure I have to use at least Moran, Noah and Vesti?

[tropic summit]

vesti with x2 ammo on blanc and ada buff can take care of it

e.g.

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit ada

hmm rosanna is messing up the timing i see

[arctic jewel]

Hmmm 🤔

[nimble root]

[arctic jewel]

Let me post the rest of the teams again

[tropic summit]

@viral kite do you've a rosanna built on your own?

[gaunt pulsar]

smells like deficit

[tropic summit]

we could fight poison with poison

[tropic summit]

T3 win, T1 lose

that's well enough actually

[arctic jewel]

Yeah, I was gonna say that I just give up on T1

[austere marsh]

Excellent... Quite excellent

[tropic summit]

you can deal with it, a similar team we just cleared earlier for doppel, although it needs invested rosanna, see his latest video

@arctic jewel #pvp-arena message

[arctic jewel]

Hmmmm... how invested? I guess I could try, even if she's suboptimally built

[tropic summit]

if anything your cindy doesn't last to 5RL

but we need your team to be at least 4RL

tbh i'm still thinking

i guess we could actually sudoku into noah

and then nuke their link

how's your bsoda and drakeT?

bah let's fight poison with poison

try this next

nayuta helmt swha vestiTU ros

nayuta vigor
helmt tempering
swha tempering
vestiTU tempering
ros any

got the record?

quite interesting matchup

cheers

wow the timing was spot on

no problemo

thanks for sharing

[lunar pawn]

she's basically makima but better

[arctic jewel]

who should I use instead of Helm? just someone who can reach at least 4RL?

SWHA?

[dense kindle]

Hello I am once again asking for assistance, is there any changes I can make to my teams this season?

Here's what i have rn and here's my box

[lunar pawn]

should I change mine

[arctic jewel]

just curious, because I'm not super good in PvP, why is Rapunzel in p1 instead of Scarlet?

[lunar pawn]

stun bait

[arctic jewel]

oh right, since she's the only B1 in the team, makes sense

[lunar pawn]

no, I mean rapu can stun the enemy team

[arctic jewel]

oh, yeah, I knew that, was mostly thinking about being able to get a Scarlet nuke

if Rapunzel is in p1, then everything should go smoothly, or?

@lunar pawn

[lunar pawn]

no team is a sure win

[arctic jewel]

well... yeah, true

[lunar pawn]

and you don't know whether you'll be attacking/defending, so SG/SR can be tricky

[tropic summit]

T1 T3 and T4 are on the weaker side

oh and you can run soline tech

[dense kindle]

Whats soline tech

[shell hazel]

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit Won Game 1 and 3, lost Game 2 because I forgot to give Vigor to Ada

Thank you as always! ❤️

[nimble root]

I really appreciate it, thanks i'll mess around and try to find a sub for blanc on t4 same with cindy on t5

[forest zodiac]

look at what happened with t3

@gaunt pulsar

[lunar pawn]

same that happened to me

[gaunt pulsar]

ah, another case of just lib not being enough for future would recommend to use crown probably, but we getting good data. What your lib atk% ol?

[forest zodiac]

let me check

lib

[lunar pawn]

maybe the moran needs to be pepega for it to work?

[gaunt pulsar]

and that was against core 4 moran with lb0 lib again

[lunar pawn]

understandable, nobody wants to roll for copies of the worst pilgrim

[tropic summit]

actually getting more stable results with crown, made another lad run

blanc lib crown biscuit rapunzel

lib can afford dying this way, still got indommed

also nuke was lethal here but it wasn't a C7 moran

[gaunt pulsar]

you almost killed yours, but it definitely depends on how well invested moran is too, and how well invested lib is, lb0 lib with good atk% ol and mlb+ lib is a difference, with offburst crown buff instead of cindy being there it might be really good

[lunar pawn]

dupes shouldn't matter too much

[dense kindle]

Woah soline is pvp unit

[lunar pawn]

LET'S GO AZX

[gaunt pulsar]

more base stats stack better with higher atk% ol, same for moran, way more hp and def while you still on lower atk than you should be

[tropic summit]

soline showcase here, look at lib being immortal against ele weak SG

#pvp-arena message

[lunar pawn]

for a counter team I mean...if it relies too much on dupe count then it's not consistent

crow pvp time?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-bugs-bunny-3

[gaunt pulsar]

rapu is enough to save lib there? i'm just bad test bench to test it because moran's out there arent on that crazy OL/cores yet, but when i tried running noiseless setup moran just autotargeted her, could probably melt from good moran+swha while she climbing to ~4rl

[tropic summit]

lemme check what was speed, iirc it was a 4RL

@gaunt pulsar ye 4RL with rapun

not sure if he had CS% to kick it to 3.5RL, at that point probably safer

[lunar pawn]

I know I don't, and it's vs a c7 moran

[tropic summit]

last season champ in a global bracket

[gaunt pulsar]

this one should be 4, but 3.5 is fine, i've tested it, it's tight and you can f***k up if you are slightly faster but should be consistent on anything from 3.5

[tropic summit]

• slow cindy nayuta variant
• soline tech RNG indom
• scar-soda
• anti slow team or antinuke-less
• absolute

[shell hazel]

when did I get my soda doll to SR-5? lol

[lunar pawn]

still don't know what good ninja delta is

[tropic summit]

she's used to sacc in there, nothing else

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit time to take down da whale

Help plss

[tropic summit]

yeah that's pure hell

[shell hazel]

my absolute team not built - if I wanted to run something like t5 would it work even if emma/eunwha kind of suck?

[warm monolith]

Its time for you to cook another masterpiece

[tropic summit]

most damage comes from vestiTU anyhow, you could if you add something to it like soline or rosanna

[arctic jewel]

first time seeing Ninja Delta in PvP for me

[tropic summit]

there's not much to cook with when you're in the desert

[shell hazel]

ros is cool, I'm thinking of just copying those teams you posted lol

so soline is elsewhere

my soline OK built

[tropic summit]

well he got to win champ so they probably work to a degree

[warm monolith]

Youve cooked in harsher conditions, cmon man have some faith

[shell hazel]

science and 🍿 is fun

not sure how well my emma lives though :9

[warm monolith]

T3 is fairly duable as you said

[tropic summit]

for starters check CP against T3 if you run

• noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani

and against T1 put all of your highest CP units and see how far you go with CP

[warm monolith]

T1 is 1.209mil (w all bursts)
T3 is 1.046mil

[tropic summit]

uh you can get in range against T1

post your box

[warm monolith]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D

(is this link works?)

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/en/deck

[tropic summit]

ye it works

give me CP of

scarlet vestiTU rrh helmt naga

[warm monolith]

1.174 mil

[tropic summit]

it's doable

that's a dead soda and noah

[warm monolith]

Rail gonna cook another masterpiece

[tropic summit]

now to sort CP against T3

[tropic summit]

show CP with

jackal ein lib swha bay

[warm monolith]

1.115mil

[tropic summit]

oh right forgot you've also lappy well built

[tropic summit]

jackal bay lib laplaceT SWHA

[warm monolith]

1.080mil, tlap is a bit low

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kowalski-noted

[warm monolith]

Like 16k from swha

[tropic summit]

need 1154 or small deficit with noah in case

[warm monolith]

1.1k?

[gaunt pulsar]

glad t1 won btw, can sometimes go sideways

[warm monolith]

I can do some lvl up

[forest zodiac]

niice, soo can be something be done about t3?

[tropic summit]

hmm hold on

[gaunt pulsar]

switch cindy to crown, if it's still in cp range

[forest zodiac]

ah, I see, big thanks

[shell hazel]

might be time to snag this deal Rail

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith

jackal sbs swha ein bay?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doja-cat-8

[warm monolith]

1.132.327

[tropic summit]

you're screwed

it's minor deficit but it will be ugly

well time to yolo with jackal lib noah and flex i guess

[warm monolith]

Welp, i have a stock of core dust waiting around too

Though i can grind more in campaign first

[haughty mortar]

Actually I think nothing much has changed so imma roll with the teams I had last time

[gaunt pulsar]

noise can be Rapu like Rail tested #pvp-arena message, i guess works pretty nicely in case you lose lib before you start bursting, and if she is not dead she gets healed by rapu, but seems to work fine for you with noise so can leave her for dr/taunt

[tropic summit]

trying to see if you've some combo we can run with biscuit and nayuta since they're still open

we kinda want to use blanc somehow... we could let them sudoku against mihara sacc

oh maybe i see it

@warm monolith CP with

jackal bay cindy biscuit swha

[warm monolith]

1.087.841 my biscuit is 178k :(

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ we gotta go full sucide cannon

total yolo

[tropic summit]

jackal bay cindy sbs swha

[warm monolith]

1.143.419

[tropic summit]

11k off

[tropic summit]

alice instead of sbs

[lunar pawn]

thought you said smth else

[warm monolith]

Yeah alice is just 3k over sbs :(

[tropic summit]

ein instead of alice

[warm monolith]

Still no but with naga its 1.154.908

[tropic summit]

naga is gonna get you killed

although at least you exit deficit

well you know what, try with minor deficit and let's see how it goes for now, we need to see if T1 is even consistent to begin with

@warm monolith final draft

your cindy team will be in deficit but we've a chance to reach 2RL B3

record it

[warm monolith]

Wait lemme do da cubes

[tropic summit]

T1 1.172.556
T3 1.154.499

before running tell me CP you get on T3 so we see how much deficit you contesting

[keen vapor]

And now I'm gold

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/weird-flex-but-ok-1

[keen vapor]

It means I'm inactive MA

[warm monolith]

T1 is good but t3 is 1.089.917

[keen vapor]

Like Rosy ....

[tropic summit]

yeah unlike other MAs you've a job

[tropic summit]

21%, kinda ugly but oh well

at least you're biscuit protected and bay cover hopefully sticks

[wind kelp]

Hmm, one thing i haven't taught the assistant yet, is; how do i cube this? I guess i should go through "best pvp cube" for all and then see what i can pull off.

[warm monolith]

Im going for it?

[tropic summit]

ye no other choice

yolo and record

[warm monolith]

Trust the process

Well pretty good @tropic summit

Should i send only t1?

[tropic summit]

ok so bay actually pulls it off, 1 obstacle gone

let's see what we need to min max on T1

[warm monolith]

Ofc she does

She is the strongest

Solid hps too

Heres the rec @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

except SWHA committing sudoku as expected on scarlet

now imagine if you had drakeT built

so heavy 🧱

let's commit one extra SG to this

[north brook]

He not dying to burst tho

[warm monolith]

My drakeT is 190k

Not enough tho ig

[lunar pawn]

drake+vesti should destroy noah, no?

[tropic summit]

he's gapped beyond reason

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

can't use any of the actual units you'd usually use here

what we can work with that is not taken in T3

and potentially below tove is not letting him be hit without penalty

the other idea would be to throw doro at it

won't have a B1 at that point tho and they've some decent autos on enemy side

@warm monolith CP with

rrh naga helmt doro ros

[warm monolith]

1.123.006

[tropic summit]

you're so screwed

[warm monolith]

[tropic summit]

can't sacc, can't nayuta, gotta deal with soda, gotta kill p1 before 2RL B2 and somehow you gotta be hitting a deficit that is nearly impossible

[warm monolith]

Oh well, good play man. Thanks for your efforts

Goodnight

[tropic summit]

let's fish for good rng on scarlet

1 last attempt

[warm monolith]

Oke bet

[tropic summit]

oh

wait a min, there's siren potential here

cindy and soda might drag them down to p1 siren weak

aaaaand that's gone

typical SWHA

@warm monolith run it again and pray for good scarlet s2

scar helmt naga rrh vestiTU

edit: fixed positioning

[warm monolith]

1.177.203

[tropic summit]

give tempering to scarlet, rest give them highest lvl available cube

[warm monolith]

All? Thelm had quantum, theres a 2k diff

[tropic summit]

ye tempering vigor or any cube

quantum won't do a thing here so don't worry

[warm monolith]

K im slapping in the highest ones

[tropic summit]

just ensure you're higher than 1.172k

[warm monolith]

Oh yeah, higher

Running up?

[tropic summit]

ye

[warm monolith]

Lets goo

[tropic summit]

cross your fingers and pray for good RNG

[warm monolith]

Oof :(

At least got noah this time

[tropic summit]

oh? show

[warm monolith]

Here@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

haha... denied from B1ing and died to autos, very close

if you could only slot nayuta... but CP

[warm monolith]

Thanks for the effort man the truth of me taking down a whale is good enough lol. I just gotta invest more in nayuta ig

Goodnights, have a rest

[tropic summit]

good night, nice try

@hollow lagoon it's nikke 3.0 and they released the 10v10 nikke super champion arena, teams are now reaching -1RL, you burst while you're in the loading screen

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

How hard can I sacrifice a rosana

[tropic summit]

da fk am i running this CA

🍜

i wanted to commit to 4 strong teams but it's probably gonna backfire like everytime

SGs are gonna walk into a noah biscuit or moran

indom is gonna walk into rosanna sniperoni

sigh...

[summer copper]

still no good it seems

[warm monolith]

How @tropic summit was cooking https://youtu.be/Z9Zbu_UplYc

[tropic summit]

what joke is this

let's drop a RH in there a fk it

lemme check speed if you can fit her in there

aaaand speed won't allow it

[summer copper]

great

[tropic summit]

well let's just slow cindy it

or rather slow lib

[tropic summit]

check your CP with

Crown lib blanc biscuit rapunzel

if opponent is 2456k you need around 2078k

[summer copper]

it's not in deficit at least

[tropic summit]

awesome

record and give it a shot

cubes:

crown tempering
lib tempering
blanc vigor
biscuit vigor
rapunzel vigor

[summer copper]

hmm that was terrible

[tropic summit]

show me the timing on crown coming out of stun, might need to invert her with blanc

if you recorded we can tell

[tropic summit]

ye they've good dmg on p5, we need to swap around biscuit and rapu if anything

or could run the oldschool noise

hmm let's see

oh even better

can biscuit lock this

@summer copper

blanc lib rapunzel biscuit crown

now the interesting bit here if you come out of stun from blanc on time to cast blanc b2 and not biscuit b2

but we'll find out i guess

in case you don't we can afford slowing it down to 5RL

[gaunt pulsar]

probably wont work buffed swha on offburst is kinda when she doesn't take 3s to charge it's all lethal still

[tropic summit]

nah he was close to 4RL

blanc and crown will both be invulnerable, damage with 5 units alive is lower than 4 units alive

and he's still 4RL not 5RL

[gaunt pulsar]

[tropic summit]

but i know what you mean, kinda pushing it

the worst case scenario lib revives and doesn't nuke in time before lethal tho

[summer copper]

Rapunzel still dies before she can burst

[tropic summit]

oke crown gonna need to go afterall

3.5RL but still pushing it cuz damage after burst is pretty high

soline here would be amazing

[summer copper]

though problem with Soline is that she's completely unbuilt

[tropic summit]

yeah gonna need to take this the more traditional way i fear

[tropic summit]

how's your rosanna?

[summer copper]

decent i guess?

[tropic summit]

7/10/10 40%+ atk and some ele?

[haughty mortar]

Where does Privaty come in for PVP?

[tropic summit]

optional choice to counter indom or nuke or offburst buffer

[summer copper]

8/9/10, 38.8 atk, no ele

[tropic summit]

oh this is usable

[haughty mortar]

What about in CA?

[tropic summit]

run this team in shooting range and let me know if she stays linked

@summer copper

swha nayuta helmt rosanna jackal

we want ideally swha and rosanna linked

how to check link:

1. enter shooting range with that team
2. pause in battle
3. click on SWHA and rosanna, ensure both have buff "jumping jackal"

[summer copper]

which shooting range?

[tropic summit]

any battle is fine

[haughty mortar]

any%

[tropic summit]

CA is a bad place, it's pure RNG

she could be strong because she gets lucky matchup, she could be garbo cuz she gets straight countered

[haughty mortar]

Then I will just keep the formations you gave me last time.

[tropic summit]

there's plenty of variations just look around

[summer copper]

Jackal went to Helm and Rosanna

[tropic summit]

hmm we can still use this

try with this team next and record:

helmt nayuta ros jackal swha

thinking about killing noah with rosanna if this doesn't lethal both enemy water codes

[summer copper]

what cubes?

[tropic summit]

helmt tempering
nayuta any
swha tempering
rosanna tempering
jackal quantum

[haughty mortar]

Tempering is big in PVP ey

[tropic summit]

DR plays a huge part in staying alive

[haughty mortar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/aha-ha-ha-ha-stayin-alive-robin-gibb

[tropic summit]

also if you need ideas @haughty mortar click on this guy name @swift mango and go to this discord, it has a good chunk of champ wins for most seasons

[summer copper]

we got it, now they'll probably change it tomorrow

[tropic summit]

oh wow lemme c

[tropic summit]

sh*t you bypassed moran entirely

you've CS% on your units @summer copper ?

[summer copper]

probably? the game just closed itself on me so check in a sec

[tropic summit]

oh if you can tell me your CS% you're the best, also good job

we got some tasty feed in p1 due to moran and siren feed but damn that was way faster than their B1

i just slowed it down, you were around 1.5RL-1.7RL

helmt swha jackal together are insane

[summer copper]

Helm has 6.31, Rosanna has 2.86, Jackal has 11.76

Nayuta and Snow 0

[tropic summit]

so not even actually wild CS% at that, curious

thank you @summer copper

[summer copper]

thank you too

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit sigh tmr ca

I just ain’t excited

[tropic summit]

you've won it all imo

[hollow lagoon]

Only 3x

[tropic summit]

no i mean you've been winning essentially at anything

doing good at SR, unmatched in SP and rookie, doing good on in campaign, doing good in UR

winning everytime eventually gets you burning out or getting bored

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

would make sense CA also grows boring for you

[hollow lagoon]

I haven’t defeated @tropic summit yet

[tropic summit]

you've long since defeated me

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

didnt happen

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I just (badly) copied keripos teams and we'll see what happens next lmao

I don't have the invest or emi etc, so it's just whatever for me at this point

[tropic summit]

wow, taking notes from the king of kings eh

[hollow lagoon]

i think i'mma truly abondon sanity

[tropic summit]

time to return to your roots, the curse of the cursed

[shell hazel]

CA same for me doesn't mean much, so sometimes it's just easier to copy someone else 😄

[tropic summit]

you sit down, look at the board, and you start going like

• oh this is SG weak
• oh this is soda stunnable
• oh this is indom weak
• oh this is snipable
• oh this is weak to rosanna
• oh this is weak to absolute
• oh this is weak to slow cindy
• oh my p5 is wide open
• oh my p1 can be denied

...

[tribal hollow]

Hey guys, unsure of approach here. He had Blanc in team 2 and Noah in team 3 before, and that was easy, but I don't think this is as simple as swapping my team 2 and 3 as well

I'd like to keep Vesti on his 3RL Cindy (unless there's a better move). So what is it, pack team 3 with snipers and wipe Blanc? xd

[tropic summit]

what's your vestiTU CS% for reference?

[shell hazel]

then we clone SW 5 times and have 5 fantastic teams, and one of them has a fire weak implant so she can kill ziz too

[tribal hollow]

11.24%

[tropic summit]

the dream

[tropic summit]

oke that's good enough, let's see

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's your lucky time this season, maybe I would get my luck in Nikke 4.0

[swift mango]

I got enlarged.

[swift mango]

I don't that's why I stopped at 3 times since season 6.

[tribal hollow]

My biggest accomplishment that also meant nothing to me was getting out of groups once

Just will never have those investments

[tropic summit]

let's go with this, show CP first before submiting

[tribal hollow]

Righty-o. One second

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3

[tropic summit]

not as big as @fathom rock sugar was

[shell hazel]

totally is making plans to conquer

[shell hazel]

I do on some units, I don't have on others, I mostly building pve lately

[tribal hollow]

Mmm

[shell hazel]

I did give label SR-5 though, seems like potentially useful option for SPA if I need it

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel can't believe retro gonna retire tho

[shell hazel]

retro not retiring what do you mean?

[tropic summit]

figured we'd always have his mobile gamin' around

god fingers gonna leave

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nande-estel-gif-3078786776610237860

@fathom rock if you leave I will hire some thugs to come and find you, give you a pc, and make you play at 60 fps so you can't quit

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock you're banned from leaving it seems

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/request-denied-thumbs-down-joaquin-phoenix-gladiator-gif-12917210495678987869

[swift mango]

Nah he probably retire from something not this game.

[shell hazel]

maybe he old man and retiring in real life? 😮

[tropic summit]

copium is evil, it always backstabs when you least expect it

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/isekai-ojisan-uncle-from-another-world-isekai-uncle-isekai-ojisan-gif-26240693

[swift mango]

He need to retire fromLD union management first.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sad-WCu

[shell hazel]

Havel renamed to deity?

[tropic summit]

he manages too many things already, while helping people

[swift mango]

Then retire from MA role and writing guide

Before retiring this game

[shell hazel]

that!

also retire into my union with zanta

[tropic summit]

time for you to become MA and replace him

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

waifu? where from

I thought we agreed bigboi was next MA

[tropic summit]

gridman, she's known for being thicc

[shell hazel]

oh shit it's gridman, I did see it but a long time ago

[swift mango]

...thigh

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/gridman-gridman-universe-rikka-takarada-anime-anime-girl-gif-14541363643941250168

[tropic summit]

the irony i just found the same

when she first became famous it was mostly because of her thighs

[shell hazel]

I even have the damn thing on my shelf

[tropic summit]

get in the robot Hippo

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/live-shinji-reaction-live-reaction-reaction-live-evangelion-gif-7383571566717135386

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/asuka-live-asuka-reaction

@shell hazel imagine if they did this in HSR or genshin

you uninstalled HSR ye?

[shell hazel]

yep

not played it since I said I quit

btw this is a one per region deal - so use it wisely lmao

[tropic summit]

reasonable, surprised you lasted that long, i feel like it's both a shame but also reasonable

the story and keeping up with it may be worth it... but the effort it requires just isn't

[shell hazel]

I quit the game will like 250-300 pulls on my account too lol

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

not whaled

just didn't have anything to pull really so was building up

[tropic summit]

there were some cute grills but nothing on the level of things we getting elsewhere

[shell hazel]

no actually I think their designs were a bit lazy

especially compared with their other games like HI:3 and ZZZ

and to WuWa type designs

[tropic summit]

ZZZ is insanely creative

@shell hazel penguin-chan so cute

[shell hazel]

just too much work keeping up with too many games tbh, I'll see how arknights is over time, or if it's just a waiting time until NTE/silver palace

[tropic summit]

ya NTE is the next stop probably

[shell hazel]

this without the stupid mask on? I feel like we'll lose that in the story

[swift mango]

What's the story of HSR again? I don't think it has an end game, unlike Nikke, Azur Lane or HI3 part 1.

[tropic summit]

should, it's suppressing her powers iirc

to avoid she breaks down her body while she's still slowly awakening

[shell hazel]

the end game modes are the 3 main cycling ones and the anomaly mode

[tropic summit]

it sort of hints that you will fight eventually a war that could end everything against destruction

but you know how hoyoverse is with stories, always cliffhangers and leaving things open

[tribal hollow]

Sorry for delay, threw some investment on Ada. CP looks good

[swift mango]

I mean end game as in end point of the the story.

In Nikke, Azur Lane and HI3 they ends when the world is saved from the invaders. In Genshin, HSR, shits like WoW it just going on forever

[tropic summit]

oh ye in range, check HP in T1 ensure SWHa has lower HP than helmT, you can toss a vigor on helmT in case

once that's fixed you should be able to run those

[shell hazel]

I feel like Nikke will never end unless they EoS it some day

but I hope if they do that they can at least give it a good ending to go out on

[tropic summit]

the best move nikke could do is move into a better engine at some point and consider seriously a nikke 2.0

they've the money, the resources and the people now

[shell hazel]

I suspect their new game will get all the attention

[tropic summit]

the studio drammatically expanded

[shell hazel]

proper 3d models but similar gameplay elements could work indeed

[tropic summit]

ye their design is on point, but need to upgrade and keep up with competition

[swift mango]

Nah it could end, and restart with part 2 like Honkai Impact or filler like some other games. But they would draft it on as long as possible and probably EoS before the story ends knowing how greedy the dev is.

[tropic summit]

need innovative gameplay and to stop recycling content and assets

[shell hazel]

the nikke game in Stellar Blade was pretty fun too

[tropic summit]

one of the greediest atm for sure, most of the scam practices are still in nikke

[spiral onyx]

I am not King of Kings (Ozymandias). I am King of Heroes (Gilgamesh)

[tropic summit]

i'd hit nero

[swift mango]

I mean, I could even see an end game for LADS story of all things (the most greedy gacha on the market). It's just how the game stories are constructed from the begin.

[shell hazel]

I don't really hate never-ending games as long as the journey is fun

but I can play non-gacha for actual completed stories

[tribal hollow]

Worked perfectly. Much appreciation, as always

[tropic summit]

oh LADS is greedy?

no guarantee and low f2p resources?

[tropic summit]

ye the real good stories are mostly from SPs or actual JRPGs

some exceptions for some action games sometimes

[swift mango]

Talking about LADS they just delay to release any new main story at all and only add fillers because they don't want the story to moving to make money longer lol.

[tropic summit]

LADS suffering from unpredicted success

years back you'd never see games actually investing resources on a female mostly targeted audience

"how do they make so much money without selling sexy ladies?"

a mystery that will be studied years to come

[swift mango]

When you are successful you stop moving the story at all.

Hope this doesn't happen to nikke

[swift mango]

Nah, you should fact check what you said, female target gacha existing for over a decade already.

The company who made lads also made 2 other gacha of that kind and still running. It's just LADS was the first 3D action one.

[tropic summit]

they've been steadily moving forward with the story, aside from some obvious fillers

we're slowly fighting the original actual boss, the queen

although they've already built up a lot of other mysteries

e.g. mirror

might be the true end boss

[tribal hollow]

Turns out women were just as horni the whole time

[tropic summit]

ye but it never got as succesful or known as LADS

there were some titles trying to appeal to female audience and never got the same numbers as other typical male audience targetting gacha

we've seen an increase for example of otome games

[swift mango]

If you check monthly gacha revenues chart on gachagaming you could spot a few otome games, making more money than things like Azur Lane, PGR.

[tropic summit]

oh? got any names? maybe i've heard of them before

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit cursed enough>?

[swift mango]

It's just LADS being at absolutely top of the chart for more than a yearaking everyone know about it.

[tropic summit]

where's soline tho, bad synergy also in T5, rapunzel wants instant punish not delayed nukeroni

rest of the teams look pretty fun

[tropic summit]

ye LADS is a whole new level

[hollow lagoon]

where the hell would i roll soline tho

[tropic summit]

in a team that she can synergy with, e.g. with rapunzel

keep in mind she can also protect your noah in p5

i'd use her with your T5 or T3 or T1

the least SG weak teams you've the better

[hollow lagoon]

soline?

i can use in t1 i guess

[swift mango]

In this chart on December 2025 I could only spot 2 Nikki games. I guess other otome games fell off or I just don't know their names.

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit T3 I'M TRYING TO GET EMMA KILLED THO

[glad meteor]

Marvel contest of champs

[tropic summit]

uh brown dust pretty damn low in that list

surprising considered how go0n oriented it is

GF2 also fell uh

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit how would dis work

[tropic summit]

reverse 1999 and FeH also fell wowie

[swift mango]

Life make over is a female target audience game that's pretty high in that list. I just saw the icon so I google.

[tropic summit]

what is it about?

[tropic summit]

too slow, sub lib

[hollow lagoon]

gonna have to be like swha or helm

[austere marsh]

Rail question

[swift mango]

Fashion game where player doll up their game character

Rank 26

On the chart

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[austere marsh]

Is this 8 Temperings? Because I only have 6

[tropic summit]

not all tempering are mandatory

[tropic summit]

although you definitely want them on vestiTU, noah, moranT, bay, soda, scarlet

[tropic summit]

interesting

but still bad synergy with rapunzel

although you do cover for siren, SGs and nukes

[austere marsh]

Oooo got it got it

[swift mango]

https://youtu.be/Y_riNbZbO40?si=Uw_1G-cvsT-ou72Z

[tropic summit]

oh it's one of those sims like infinity nikki isn't it

dress-em-up

[swift mango]

Female target, don't tell me u would play it.

LADS at least you could play it for the action and story.

Like how female playing go@n games like Nikke

[shell hazel]

BD2 was never all that high

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I think it just does a few mill usually