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it's a sacc on any side, as taunt priority is on p1
you then get further sacc from vestiTU first kill in enemy p1
(if p1-p2-p3 is killable)
But ye speed up opponent team by using delta, kinda redundant
Been running shaved ice
Yeah, congrats
what is that 
Moran Noah swha Ada Trina
oh oke
Yes, some long as Ada survived into FB
hmm so 2RL
emi blanc rh ada jackal
would've emi on blanc + rh + ada buff?
assuming team reached B3 alive
I'm not expecting anything so not disappoint in anything. 
Not if something like Scarlet just slash Ada out of existence before FB.
Need to reach FB to activate FB bonus.
that's B3 cast no?
thanks sir 
It's full burst cast.
how many frames after B3 activates and emilia start charging?

So how do you beat Moran(T) teams
Kill em
Yeah but with what
It's just if there is no wipe ada would sure, that's it.
Vesti, snow
ok so upon B3 cast but at least after B3 instant nuke timing frame
Like I said, cast when entering full burst, and affecting B3 unit that already cast their burst.

From B3 to FB is like less than 10 frame.
B3 units including Rapipi serving as B1.

ok so essentially what i said earlier
You have Team 3 won you I could easier cook you team 1 or 2 though.
you'd need an instant nuke to wipe your ada before you've completed B3 and entered FB
No, it's few frame after b3 is casted, it's a FB buff, not b3 buff like Cindy s1. 
would be interesting to see a triple buff emi if she can 1hitko a moran noah team

If you wanted to buff Emi, use Miranda. She is worth Blanc+RH by herself.
less than 10 frames is nothing tho it's like saying right after B3 is cast, just not same speed as B3 instant nukes or instant effects

miranda doesn't apply DR debuff though
think you still kinda want blanc in there
It's different, it won't affect sth like Scarlet cleave. And won't trigger if a Scarlet cleave you out of existence. Or Even Rapi, HelmT, Xmaiden one shooting link units if Ada is linked.
no problemo the example i'm thinking about is SWHA anyway
thanks for the explanation either way, i've a good understanding now 
I mean, Miranda is much stronger than RH for Emi one shot. I tested the number before and Miranda alone is about as strong as Blanc+RH combine.
Ofc Miranda also need to survive to FB to trigger her guarantee Crit skill 2.
So against Sth than kill her during burst stage 3, RH is better
t2 is doable, just that both b3 next to jackal take too much dmg from vesti
t1 gotta change though
Well, the problem is if Rapi could even kill Vesti buffed by Ada life steal right when FB end, before Vesti shot hit you
just gotta wait 
@upper grove save me lol
can
older matchup, ofc
@swift mango we had very mixed results today and yesterday against this
so far the only ones who won were cindy with blanc on 3RL-4RL and blanc + ada buffed vestiTU
any other actual reliable counter you know about, assuming noah is siren resistant?
let me check I got cubes on all
If you confident your Rapi can kill with just Blanc buff alone, you could get Rapi to survive with linked Noise as p1.
Or use Biscuit, the common way.
Max core rapi
how's your privT 
rapu?
cubes added

why would I change t2 though 
You said Rapi can't survive normal attack. 
I was talking if Rapi can kill, and you sent video that she can kill, no?
If Rapi could survive as is, then why did she died in your other video? 
check positions
Did you put all 3 linked units in the p1-2-3 in the other video or StH? I'm lazy to rewatch. 
yea

they all went poof
Okay good luck on your next attack. 
It's easy when Rapi could win
just need to remake t1, since t3 wasn't a win I was counting on lol

The same team but flip SW and Helm I guess.
so turn it into a trade off with lifesteal involved

you still gonna need to deal with moran B1 tho
the scar-soda version is a glass cannon, does it actually make it?
the scar-soline-rapunzel i could understand a bit better due to sustain if anything
You long as their b3 is death and you still have 5 units, Moran aren't solo. Even getting through Rapu alone already a challenge that take her whole FB to kill
that one is clear, but scar-soda can live too or could lose to solo moran on B1 alone?
Soda is weaker than Rapu for sure but if you have like HelmT and/Or LapT off burst Killing Moran isn't impossible
You could also linked Rosa+Nayuta 2rl and hope the best.
hmmm... it's all teams that the average joe won't have, minus the reversal mirror 
tried it earlier, wasn't lethal although the guy rosanna was pepega
also moran catches 1 of rosa shoots, so either helmt or swha stay alive
Rosa need like 60% Ele to counteract Moran even if linked. Nayuta nuke before Noah also add up damage.
2RL rosa vs 2RL moran still doesn't land both shoots on the 2 attackers tho right? 1 is taunted by moran (assuming same CS%)
Yeah, I forget their HelmT too not just SW. mB.
oh oke
ye i think the nayuta ros approach is kinda mild against both water codes present
Scarlet Wipe also need ELE. And better put her p3-4-5 to avoid Noah atk reduction
we've got recapping:
- scar-soda (needs offburst laplaceT or similar)
- scar-rapu-soline (this contains 2 units that most ppl won't have fully built)
- moran noah biscuit helmt swha, going for the long run trade off
- slow cindy (hasn't been very consistent)
- jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit ada (needs invested vestiTU with also enough ammo)
ye makes sense
You don't need Soline.
oh? how do you know rapunzel will make it exactly into the HP% threshold?
Normally she would against that team specifically, the only fear is if she died before she burst but it's only possible if she is pepe.
gave me an idea 
I always was always failing that with swha, even rh buffed
https://youtu.be/kiqgt2lEEqg
that actually retains lethal? surprising 
figured at least moran would live it
Soline only help her to not die, not helping her taking dmg. Rapu only possible because SW+HelmT just hit hard enough to get her there and not too hard to kill her normally
my lib might be a little better than average, but should be better than any cindy there imo, even just blanc buffed
what's her atk% for reference?
43%
hmm data from a lib on 15-20% atk would be even better
also can't see if it critted or not, is it consistent?
@tropic summit Slow Libby is also a choice. So does Slow Ada.
same rules like against any other moran should apply, if you know that lib with blanc buff can pass moran buff on 15-20% should work here too, it's just about timing
for ada i suppose you still gotta prevent them from proccing biscuit so you can 1hitko each unit
oh oke gotcha
we will probably run into more of these teams from ppl seeking help, we could collect data by suggesting similar team
Yeah, you Ada also need to be strong enough so her first big charge shot one shot Moran

again, dunno about the average joe having that
She would hit 1-2-3 with that shot. Noah maybe biscuit but not Moran and p3 Biscuit who would die with that one shot
realistically, budget wise, the reverse mirror with helmt and swha or the lib team from Lomarion seem like the most available counters for anyone
gonna be hard to assume ppl have soda or soline-rapunzel built
question will be if 0%atk - pepega libby is still lethal
Well, people did run slow ada in CA and won against Moran. You could also buff Ada with RH
or let's just go and assume 10-15% atk libby with at least budget invest and SR5
Same to Libby you could buff her.
so instead of noise a unit like rh or similar
Or instead of Cindy, bring Crown
to pass 2rl noah with lib you need to be not faster than 3.5rl, so as long as you meeting that she should work
2RL noah covers up to 3RL iirc, so 3.5RL onward makes sense
that gives you a lot of leeway even for padding purposes
actually turns that enemy team into quite abusable at that point
ironic... a stable general purpose team turns out to be cheesable by slow teams 
Back
So back
now I need to think of something for another variant that's getting popular
||same with helm b3||
About out trade With helm life steal use Bay instead of Noah, Noah does not block the SW nuke at all, but BayT link and healing mitigate lots of dmg.
you meant this one?
yeah

since it's an helmT main B3, i guess you'd want to punish it with slow cindy + midhara?
some use helm p3, so she gets taunted by noise
similarly annoying fight
although you still have to deal with moran
doesn't help also that taunting probably mitigates midhara DoTs
to counter it?
Yeah that too.
moran bay biscuit helmt swha?
Yeah, better than Noah in a mirror
hmm
so helmT nuke lands on bayT cover and deals no dmg, then their lifesteal is negated
Makes sense since hp share
but then on your side also your lifesteal is mitigated
once both invulnerabilities run out... you've a moran bay archetype on same DPS vs a moran noah archetype
i guess you slowly out dps at that part?
would probably be a long match to watch 
I’m under the impression u win on bay because helm sw takes a unit out with enough pressure while other team can’t take it out due to bay hp share
you're still shooting p1 and p2 for a long while
Way moran works is worse against charged hits I suppose
@gaunt pulsar you got anyone you can test this against? (you'd be the one on bottom here)
On hp share the weakness is mitigated?
the main difference is that opponent has 1 HP pool per nikke, you have a HP pool of 5 nikke
also you've a bit more accumulated DR
Bit more sustain
ye that too
DoT heals from bay add too
crazy matchup honestly, you could run out of popcorns
🍿
don't have bay invest at all 🫡 even if it wouldn't matter - on huge cp deficit
that's reasonable
at your synchro it makes sense don't worry 

at best my rookie has moran noah helmt jackal swha but i'd gap them on most setups
if only my asian boi would put a moran instead
still killing this one with helmt ros
don't even need siren, you bypass with ros, she's lethal on both water code
they'd need a noise or a moran to mitigate rosanna
set your profile message to ask them to do it

he has never changes his bio, he's online once a day lately
he's become super chill
remind him of his duty
or sold his account
how is your SPA lately? chill still?
ye no action aside me trying to bully ch1, which just opened as many boxes as he could to prevent me even trying
sudden english from kr dude 
Is def not a cultist
waiting for your union to be top 100 next month
reply with "IM WATCHING ME TOO"
we haven't fought in a while, and probably never will, he is 60lv above at this point 
oh i feel ya
living the 60-80 synchro diff life since a while
we just gotta get more cultists
I hear cultists have an easy time recruiting in general
if you find another 20-30 ppl like you and zant you srsly could top 100 
I worked out last raid top 100 basically needed 35-40B from everyone on average
I remember I won with this but Idk if it was agaisnt SW off burst but I figured it's the same regardless
we're not miles off it, some do more ofc
oh i barely scratch 35b, glad to know that's a somewat acceptable range
you may have some hard carries in your union
as rosy bless him not exactly pulling even my or your figures 😄
hmm SWHA B3 isn't lethal on moran bay linked without cover left on bay?
first nuke i can understand, but second you won't have cover 
@umbral crown you didn't see that
oh but he's been steadily improving
you teaching him to be shooting range main
he used to be bottom 25-30, he's now around the middle

you did your best
they look high enough to be in our cult
SWHA doesn't do much by her charge attack, how many time must I say it and biscuits exists. SW dmg is split into 15 hits. Not concentrate on one attack like Emi.
hippo is on the hunt 
That don’t look like a thing I make
Her charge shot isn't even half of emi charge shot
it's not hunting it's recruiting
except her B3 can solo moran if buffed, but ye without buffs it's probably not
and the more cultists we have the more zeal points we get each turn
wrong game 
She can solo Moran but not one shot Moran in share dmg.
ummm
ye i get it 
nah this isn't a game, it's a cult
You only need to survive long enough for SW to die to your SW
And then you win
i'd like to see that matchup maybe we can get @versed mesa to run it, iirc his enemy had a similar setup
oh I better watch out fury might report me for being in a cult 

and inciting others to cult like activities
Cultists being in a cult? blasphemy

I remember to told him to do something like that between my comment... Or was it someone else.
here have a nice party image instead
steadily becoming a better shooting range main and graduating from pvp go0ning

That team looks like one of yours
ironically that it is
think i suggested it yesterday or day before
just take the credit and get em in our cult union
for someone's rookie def
I tell people stuff and they become @tropic summit ?
well copy pasta travels far anyhow, share it once and it gets reshared over and over
oh shit giant rabbit
did not see that coming

oh wow I am truly blessed

the greatest forward of all time
guess we aint too far away from easter

@shell hazel i'm smart working tomorrow again
gonna be absolutely the least productive i can
waiting to be on smart working
I am dumb working tomorrow
unsmart working
as I have to go into work
desmarted working
stupid working
imagine working in the office in 2026
actual working 
instead of playing gacha games and getting paid while you work
and then spending the money you earn on gacha games
good thing none of our bosses will ever know 
I am not working tomorrow 
the true circular economy
neet life 
If i got paid while playing gacha. Id prob go insane
technically you also can get paid by working from the bed
which is lovely in winter
The best job is a job that allows you for WFA everytime
zanta used to working from bed I think
I seen his status sometimes saying he is there
zanta works in the bed, with his harem
Isn't Zanta a damn ceo
he's rich but not succesful, let's put it that way
no zanta makes the packaging
No
That's what ppl with high status said
in the actual kitchen
See
should i start calling you, Zant-dono
No
He's more than a ceo
I played enough 3 kingdoms to know lu bu is the real one to watch out for
1 man army
Hes a Governor 
effectively 😄
China kinda weren’t into the make kid with immediate family member thing too often
unlike the habsburgs
But I think at one point they were big into the cousins getting together
imagine going like "damn my sister is hot, gonna have an heir or two with her"
"gotta preserve the pure bloodline"
We're going back to ancient era with this one
they were just trying to be chads
Bro’s genitals we’re straight up not functioning apparently
shortcut to chad
well can't blame them, they didn't yet know hot asian grills existed a bit far away
The autopsy said as much
ah that's what you meant ye
someone probably playing fortnite from a certain country just like any day

The royals weren’t into the interbreeding thing but the common folks were
In China anyway

U can sort of tell the kind of weird face

That interbred people have
Wdym, hes a noble, ofc hes the expert of his people
Would be if Mao didn derp out Lel
Not running a Cult, but running a region instead

Greatg Grandparents were in the noble range, Mao happened and my grandparents gen got destroyed and had to climb from poverty, got around poor-mid tier by my parent gen
Now pertty solid middle class

now you're Zant class

Sure we believe you
Zant class almost sounds like a battleship class
made money from gambling, spends money on gacha (gambling)
the circle of life 
It’s how my great grandfather got rich actually, won lottery, but I got mine with lucky investment over like 7 years

I own a house, that’s all I got and my mom had to help me pay for half of it
at least you own a house, i'm still on rent 
1.14mil Canadian dollars it was
although i could buy an house if i wanted to
Depends where now days
i can afford a 50-55 square meters house in a village or small town (italy prices)
Ur in Italy?
but i don't really feel like settling

but how will you walk downstairs to the pizza place then?
yeh that'd be a bit of a trade off
you can't if you do that 😄
Rail is spaghetti 
buy your own brick oven
@vapid hemlock PvP guru is Italian
Do we try to merge with genevis 
nah i'm from Earth
Ah crap the flat disc planet
do we even have spots open 
although if you actually wanted to join we can probably find spots
How much I’m I willing to spend to acquire me Italian #2
we just want to steal Rail
for our ~~cult ~~union
recruit @glad meteor instead he's true pve go0n
Kara cheats :9
I’ll trade sync 600 for rail 
Casino owner, Restaurant owner, and a CTO in #pvp-arena 
wait till you see retro's clears

yes ban!
Is Kara Italian?
Im helping the chinese 
kara also happens to be from earth
wait isn't Zan on Han dynasty origins
I have cn sp fren in the alliance
Nay
alliance with a chinnit 
you could help the ~~cult ~~union with Han roots
No want
@glad meteor what are the odds that chinnit is actually an hot gamer grill? 
in that case i'd forgive 
also 0


56b last union raid, sasuga
sweaty tryhards 
I'm hunting you down I got 40 😛
return to your roots of shooting range main, reject pve go0ning
I not sweat 
@shell hazel this is how we do this, we propose a trade with rail union, trade me for rail, i stay then for a couple raid and then leave due to made up reason. Then I come back to cult
I rmb there was this cn erp person though. 
your shirt has sweat stains 
nooo we just steal Rail
that is sweat right
In a chat with collection of unions
Im doing politically correct stealing

@umbral crown mr rail is getting robbed
if genevis gets @hollow lagoon and @shell hazel me and @umbral crown are gonna be in danger 
Rail is f2p (free 2 phaseovertous)
and then you've the perfect 4D chess plan to recruit us into your cult @hollow lagoon
it was all a master plan 
naruhodo 
Yep
we just need to start a revolt
the genevis civil war: arc 1, episode 1
and have everyone join our ~~cult ~~union
So we're becoming French
Oui oui
U know we have like
3 baguette in the cult
Well 3.5
Vietnamese also like baguette
that's a lot of baguettes
La fête va enfin commencer
Sortez les bouteilles, fini les ennuis
Honestly binary was better
Def not running a french cult? 😄
can you recruit at least an hot grill in your cult @hollow lagoon
possibly a goth hottie with daddy issues
they do pretty well in 2026
Seeing weird symbols on alphabet makes me spasm out
easy poster girl to get more cultists
My cousin is one
your cousin surely is a she?
Too bad she sold her self to prostitution in Australia
since you never know in 2026
ok that escalated quickly 
so i looked at prydwen and thought i was being trolled when i saw soda in S tier
what happened!?
plot twist: it wasn't a lie
she stunneroni and killeroni
Her daddy issue be severe (very)

She's an Idol
And (S)oda
now i have to read what she does
i'd drink soda
she stuns
then your scarlet is like "oh hello there"
and then you get the screen saying you won
i assume shes a champion arena pick?
nah she's fine in SP arena situationally
she loves to be taunted by noah
and then scarlet joins the fun and DP's her
and emma and eunwha tactical too
that's absolute combo with vesti, lots of damage
i didnt think they'd be decent at pvp
except they are
whoever you put in p1 p2 p3 better be a nayuta/moran/defender + biscuit or you can already start digging their grave
also bay got promoted
guess i'll consider her in my defense teams again, i actually finished her treasure and everything
@tropic summit btw, my mom’s side of the family are weird, they like to make a lot of daughters, this is how the pattern works, usually 2 daughters and 1 son kind of deal, so far the only person who did not repeat this pattern is my mother, she had me and apparently she become no longer cable of making offsprings after
.
Also, the trend is: eldest daughter always is the crazy one, the middle daughter is the Normal one
zant's sisters 
So if you every shome how end up with one of my cousins
Make sure it’s not the eldest
maybe someone can/will fix her
No u can’t

how can a perfect sane and healthy person like zant have a twisted sister 
cousin*

Me mom’s like you little shit was suppose to get out later but you were adamant you wanted Halloween

And so it was 31st of October I got out

Could I ask you assistance on a good team for arena, I just put my highest in there but I think its time to actually make a team.
post le box or blabla link set to public
I should use blabla more lol
Not allowed
run this, should be around similar CP but way faster
helmT is assumed phase 2 s1 lvl 10
although you can keep her phase 2 s1 lvl 7 for a while
ok until then sub helm for vestiTU
change positioning to this
you are the best! I guess while I am here maybe to a 3 team set up too.
No biscuit or I’m I blind?
Looks like no biscuit
SP arena
- privaty mmast lib naga jackal
- nayuta rrh viper bsoda rumani
- siren bay vestiTU drakeT liter
Aww man I was gonna have him sac Mihara into rosana
Can't thank you enough! Both of you!
sadly no biscuit
ask for upgrade as soon as helmt is phase 2 s1 lvl 7
you can then fix one team to 2.5RL or the slower one to 3RL
What is this place
PvP place
Hell
Buonasera al compatriota
Sad universe
first one I found in 3 years ffs
I saw a Italian union tho
wait there is no 1 burst in this is that normal for pvp?
Just the knowledge is enough to grant me solace

RRH is either B1 in absence of another B1 or B3
Name? 
oh nice, I thought someone had to die for that
I won't defect dw
sweet to know
do i really want to build soda in the big 2026
Ain’t expensive

in p4 you can slap her with bare bones
results will be better if you build her and slap her in p2 although
hmm
Problem is getting her to live so basic ol tempura cube and doll and cores
Very spicy to fight scar p1

And if ye ask me? I didn’t build
You didn't spread the tentycat here?



i'll leave soda in consideration
you could straight up build scar-soline-rapunzel variant instead
U didn’t notice I didn’t run soda for the entirety of CA
same logic of stunning, less risky

Can rapunzel version even pull off 2rl without helm/swha?
Oh damn does need helm
we all need helm in our life
(In bed)
Gonna need to prep for the sleep session my self
Normal Soda? in Vesti and SW meta? Probably not.
I just pulled EH and Coco idk if that changes anything.
neither are for pvp i fear
neither are useful
Surely use cocoa to dispel blanc debuff and tank vesti indom 
its a shame I do not even know what have the nikke do because they are simply not used
Soda for RNG Blanc stun 
tomorrow clear zizx surely 
F2P. Legit free tix 

or just rapu to stun whole team while help you survive SW, emi,vesti as well.

SP arena
- moran noah siren swha laplaceT
- jackal vestiTU blanc centi bsoda
- nayuta rumani privT helmT trina
damn that must be a thicc bsoda 
She was like one of the first units I got when I started, just stayed at the top somehow
Also LaplaceT isn't built yet is there a sub for her?
First time in a year or more
give those a shot, T1 and T3 can be improved further but i'm not revealing your cards too early, if they break ping again to bring them to the maximun
she's used as a battery there, as long as treasured you're fine
I'm missing a dupe for max bond 
oke then switch to this
better CP and slightly less effectiveness
we can remove stun pressure for biscuit stalling instead
Alr thanks
But also, do I only put quantum's on the one listed here, I built mine to 11 for pvp reasons so I have like 8 slots 
Cubes:
moran tempering
noah tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering
lib quantum
jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
blanc vigor
centi quantum
bsoda quantum (vigor if bsoda has less HP than vestiTU, you can check in shooting range)
nayuta any
rumani any
privT tempering
helmT any
trina any
clip SG on high CP are useful
they can work as DPS + battery, they add p5 pressure which may annoy underdogs
the best clip SGs in particular are drakeT and bsoda due to their codes
fire code eats units like noah, iron code can penalize a lot of eletric units, for the most part noise
I managed to get drakeT just for spare mats for MoranT and PrivatyT but didn't end up building her out yet
drakeT is used in CA, SGS teams and situationally in SP arena
you could build her but i wouldn't call her a priority
fix lappy to get yourself another clip RL tier battery imo
will help you build 2RL nayuta def teams
Gotta gamble for another dupe 
Either that or use the selector, but was keeping it for collection purposes which is a tough choice
take the time you need, as is you've already a well built box with a lot of variations possible
most core units are ready and built from what i've seen
unless you're badly struggling in pvp or want to improve yourself you don't have to, take ur time no need to rush 
I was holding challenger 3 but people kept finding weaknesses in my defense 
I'm so bored that I'm gonna start sharing my weird teams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMXUy1kfOu0
So I decided to ask for the new reset
Thanks for the help tho, hope it's enough for the next season 
once defense breaks you're best changing things up, even small things can make it usable again
you welcome
Rei's decoys are really good for Cindy.
my pvp units arent that good so if i could start invest in one unit to beat this guy what team would it be?
U need more synchro levels, ur units die in like 3 seconds with this current cp gap
for now forget about this bois cuz you have 90 levels gap and 26% deficit which will make your units die really fast. you would need 1.786m team to stand a chance but still the level gap will make things really hard for you
aww man that blows. ok thank you guys
Indom Lib is probably like awful right, would I be better off just using indom Ada I would assume
5RL
It works man lol
Keripo, you know slow Cindy is a thing
I know it's a thing. But it's also really easy to break
I’m about to break 601
How you doin’?

Goodbye Nikke, I'm off to play a better game
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Not another connect game....
Is this a puzzle game?
Hey hey quick question, who would my best PVP teams be? trying to refine special and regular arena teams
XDD
And I thought nothing could shock me
What counters this team?
As a side note, what counters Moran in general? A screen wipe burst?
Your options early on are going to be limited, but try to keep your focus on rocket launcher, shotgun and sniper nikkes
Your jackal, blanc, and Poli will help you a lot
Atleast they ain’t bursting helm so you can indom it

- jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit ada
- blanc lib biscuit rh vestiTU

@hollow lagoon@tropic summit WE BALLIN 
What's some pvp teams recommendations for singles and Special arena?
u aint in a position to run good teams at the moment
but they could run evil teams
It was one 10x pull

PvP over
They have Lyco Reco tho, might be coming back for the collab

Lyco Reco saves us all
Other than true damage support and good iron true dmg dps
Not much changed
Maybe low clear people can copium on true damage more but for chapter capped people ain’t much of a move in the needle
Account has rapi though I guess, so it depends if they care about pvp gems brick 
I have gems for good releases
What's the point of starting over when I'll have less gems 
To match players with same starting date, can’t compete for this acc cuz of sync dif
You can ignore PvP then, until you have like 200K CP each Nikke
Ok
Time for resemara
No thanks 
<@&946725432554836008>
That's something a cultist would say 
he does not

I actually lost to this moran sustain team.. how to counter? No siren 🤔
341, but does that matter
At lower sync. I think can swap in ada buffer for vesti indom. As long as she doesn’t steal link
Ada Wong
Hmm let me see if I can still 2RL with that
But that will still leave vesti 1v2 moran and swha at the end
Maybe
noah Biscuit sw rh helmt coulf work
Hoping ada buffer is strong enough to for vesti indom to kill
or run the lomarion approach
blanc liberalio cindy biscuit noise
or
blanc liberalio crown biscuit rumani
Just finished favorite iteming Moran, how should I adjust my comp?
you can fix your vulnerable solo B1 in p1 in T2
Indom liberalio?
nah just DR debuffed moran with lib 1hitko
Noah will block right 
I see
I understood none of that lmao
So replace jackal?
noah 2RL does not block 3.5RL lib
the cindy version is 4RL
the crown version you need noise for 3.5RL or 4RL, rumani kicks you into 3RL
Maybe ada buffed vesti will just out damage helmT heal
Or I could try indom swha cos thats a bigger hit perhaps
indom swha will get stuck on moran and noah
since you're not hitting p1 or p2 to pop biscuit enough
I see
if you've Bay built you can also run the blood's approach instead
moran bay biscuit helmt swha
dang, I just finished building noise, too
should I move noise somewhere else or shelve her
this one is supposed to outtrade with DPS
you'd need to rethink your current archetypes
noise is useful and can be used
ada DLC for re9 is what they cooking, calling it now
thanks man. Got any tips on building a decent team for standard arena?
post your box or blabla link set to public
Auto and hope the best
I feel like a real noob, don't use blabla and have no idea what a box is, but posted my nikkes here
Btw would helmT kill off lib at 3.5RL?
I also need 
box would be screen shots like that yes
Speaking of which i should build biscuit next...
Need someone to take the hit yeah. She could survive if SW burst but not HelmT
run these 2, if one breaks run the other
when that one breaks too run this one
@bitter spruce is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP1zdd85098
@tropic summit @shell hazel @swift mango
I also have the failed runs with helm and mihara lineup uploaded as unlisted in case you need footage there, vid description has all the strats 
Privaty always performed better than my 10/10/10 Maidmast for me, she is also slightly higher in power. Identical team at 1664k cp died when boss was at 145 hp bars left, very close. You should always try to finish Ziz before her 2nd nuke hits, after each nuke she gains a 360% buff for 12 seconds anyway, we just do 1 dmg during that time.
Alway...
stalling elemental QTE worked best for me, lower cp is definitely possible

looks like waiting on building midhara was a good call if privT clears easier
thanks sir!
might just commit to privT at this point
I didn't mind maxing my mihara a bit, she good anyway
with big mihara and qte stalling lower cp is faster with that team I think even w/o burst gen
define big mihara for a f2p 
4 ele 4 atk 1 ammo or so
always have to take with a grain of salt these suggestions cuz not all of us have access to insane cores or OLs
Look like I could clear it at 1800k easily


@swift mango and his 2 ele lines gonna do just fine
my mihara is LB2 so I can relate with her at least 
ah yes, the relatable LB2 
some random dupes over the course of a year 
imagine getting random dupes for core pve units 
pulled one on winter banner 
it’s not just 18% cs. even 21% cs gets dodged. i ran noise noah vest lapt xmaid (noise 18%, noah 21%) and 20-ammo scarlet still dodged both
i uploaded a clip to some discord group to ask about it. but that was quite a long time ago, so i’m not sure if the game mechanics have changed since then

18% p3-4-5, 21% p1-2 I guess.
Rail what is your cp with the same team Warudo cleared with?
you gonna have to ask that question when my privT is actually built
no. noise 18% in p1 still dodged. noah 21% in p2
i can give you an hypothetical if anything @shell hazel
@shell hazel my doroS is a good average of decently built with 0 cores
assuming my privT fully built and around C2, this is probably more correct
then we'll add those 20 or 40 synchro i'll have available in around 2 months
maybe it will well touch 148k+
probably around 155-160k+
(doing a bit of maths here and there)
sort of matches the generic CP average i'm seeing from similar synchro clears
My PvE so washed
without high ammo on rapi manual reload (+ mihara reload if using) during fb with privaty also improves dmg 
How much CS % for vesti ? Mine really sux she lose even with slower indom
minimum 5%, next is 8% and then 11
if you are crazy with CS then there is a 25% cs you can do but thats only if you are crazy
Min 5%, max 25%.
11-15 is good stop point
I only have 9% though.

I'm looking at the different absolute comps. How is Crown not a better option to Mast? If base crit rate is 15% and base crit damage is 150%, then the flat 21% attack bonus of Crown is better than the extra ~24% crit rate from mast, no? Is damage computed differently with attack or does running Mast assume you have optimal crit damage OLS?
I'm no expert but mast also gives crit dmg with skill 1. And I imagine since you want to win in the first 4 rockets that increasing your chances of landing a crit is pretty important
Crown's buffs don't trigger until full burst. OG Mast triggers at start of battle.
there are very few Nikke that buff as soon as combat starts, and most of them suck
emma triggers heal from start of battle, which triggers crown s2

not sure then, maybe someone tested, should be easy to test in shooting range, cannot do it though without crown 
But yeah Mast's s1 does make it better after all, forgot to account for that. Probably because my mast dies in 1 second 
I can check, give me a few min 
Isn't it the same thing with nayuta and biscuit heal not working on crown s2
also yeah helm heal
It has to be a direct heal
If that's the case then Crown is just useless for that comp. But I remember a CA champion using her
i remember her being used with flora only, wonder if flora heal activates it 
oh flora has hp restored
I think thats the one that works
the hp recovery im pretty sure is the one that doesn't work
Does Flora trigger at start of battle for her true damage boost or does it have to heal to full HP?

actually nvm recovery works
yes at the start
it does have specific wording though of affecting self and 2 allies on both sides
oh thats what it was
kek

in pvp thats good enough
HoT? 
The only thing come to mind for me was Herrscher of Thunder. Which is ofc wrong. 
there is damage over time, so opposite is heal over time 
@tropic summit feels good man thanks for your service
Nuh uh
most of the credit goes to yourself @fathom rock , a job well done good sir
next step securing ch4-ch6 range somehow 
but you may need a god roll reshuffle
Nah I wanna quit before next season ends 

Glazing Bay is the reason to keep living btw
What can i say, she is better than crown, arguably the best b2 ||on pvp at least||

there's probably more qualified people than me, me pleb
No
He trusted u with TL
so I trust u more because he trusts u

Me
Whats TL
tier list
if we describe Kise as aggressive, then we never seen someone actually aggressive 
Wdym
i never saw you aggressive, just arguing about infos or opinion, which is totally fine
Me?
ye you totally aggressive, real bully
I can share you some black tea
🍵
haven't had black tea in a long time
i kinda forgot how it even tastes
last i had i think it was green tea
I never drinked green tea but drinked more black tea than water probbly
Turkiye moment
black tea is your water eh
Yeah pretty much
wonder if this is right
Also ive been playing since Bay release and there werent a single day i havent logged in, so good luck
What does this imply
I dont intend on leaving the game, at least not soon. But university is coming soon
Hi, could I get some feedback on my current SP defense setup? Mostly copied teams from the pins but was wondering if there were better setups I could be running with my units. Any recommendations/advice would be appreciated! 
be like @keen vapor , he has a job and still plays just fine
T1 and T3 are decent, T2 is a bit on the weaker side, let's see what you could run instead
I mean, i intend on working in summer break. My buddy said theres a job paying 1000 dollars a month (but not the safest lol)
I'm probably 95% black tea at this point
true British culture
this is probably not the same black tea as your turkish black tea though
or maybe it is I dunno, I got the impression turkish tea was a different beast 😄
this could be an improvement, especially for your 3rd team, way more pressuring than noise centi lib
check links in T1, you want vestiTU and ada linked, bsoda will be your clip SG burst gen that also helps mitigating rosanna
if you can't establish links with bsoda in that team, throw back xmaiden in there
I think ive heard it actually is, tea is farmed mostly in rize (a city) in here. and i also heard,which is probbly true that we make the tea in different type of dried leafes of it? I dont remember that exactly, but the tea world drink is called "kaçak çay" in here. Which translated to contraband tea lol

look at these 2 fine gentlemen discussing tea types
meanwhile i drink the very occasional green tea just when i feel like 
our black tea mostly comes from india I think
strong english breakfast is my go to
but I don't mind a nice earl grey
Taiwanese green tea > all other tea, come at me 
So much
still loses to matcha, according to the totally reliable AI 
We drink tea everytime lol. I drinked this morning and night just 2 cups alone
I mean, theres a chance i get zapped
Macha probably only ranked higher because of weebs 
Ah, is those medical tests










