pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

post your box without units selected and ordered by strength, or blabla link set to public

[proven lintel]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTI0MzgxNzc5MTEwMTg1NzAz&openid=MjkwODAtNTI0MzgxNzc5MTEwMTg1NzAz

[undone blaze]

Are at least my round 1 and 3 the best I can do in terms of speed? The round 2 units are basically just whatever I had leftover. The only other decent fast burst gen units I have are Trina, Drake (no treasure) and pepper, but they're low cp. Are the placements okay too? I have the rapi over noah in 1st spot because my noah is fairly fragile. For my round 1 team, jackal is sharing with cindy and noir because my noise has low attack.

[tropic summit]

try going with these next

SP arena

• jackal blanc swha biscuit cindy
• moran vestiTU laplaceT noah trina
• nayuta rumani privT helmT emilia

[tropic summit]

in this case you're best scrapping T2, it's too low on CP compared to your other 2 teams
opponent is also able to abuse T3 slowness or commit to T1 lack of 2RL (as long as they don't feed you, you're essentially 3RL)

make 2 strong teams on decently high CP and 2.5RL at least
the other team just pad it out as much as you can

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-fight-punch-you-good-night-gif-9265874

[proven lintel]

Why Cindy off burst?

[tropic summit]

it's to counter rosanna, ensures you're gonna get a B3 off

[proven lintel]

Oh right, good call

[tropic summit]

in p5 she also mitigates helmT and liberalio burst gen

[proven lintel]

Never thought of Cindy off burst

Label deadass changed the meta

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/go-to-sleep-go-to-bed-rooster-teeth-gavin-hit-gif-15114597

[tropic summit]

your previous teams are good, your opponent likely knows what he is doing, so you gotta get creative

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/slap-handa-seishuu

[proven lintel]

Yeah, I'm one rank away to get challenger 4 and compete champions

I could use my boxes but I need to save for half anni

I'm hella stingy especially nikkes like Rumani that could get powercrept

[tropic summit]

clip RL units are still a rare commodity

hard to powercreep them, especially rumani being the only B1 clip RL

plus she's a defender, which adds further value

[proven lintel]

True but her skills are just ass

[undone blaze]

Best I could do. The Ein team will still probably be a throwaway unless the enemy places a low cp team against it.

Both the rapi and cindy teams have slightly less cp but should burst faster according to this

[tropic summit]

hmm not convinced on this, do you mind posting your box or your blabla link set to public?

feels like you can get a better set of teams with what i've seen you've

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Mondays

[tropic summit]

suck

[hollow lagoon]

Bay melons

[tropic summit]

i'd suck

[tropic summit]

@swift mango cook dis #pvp-arena message

curious what you'd run

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-thats-what-he-said-gif-16399169

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/call-out-shout-out-ken-jeong-gif-13357889853313155114

[undone blaze]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNDgxMjUzMDI3ODA5MjQ4MjE2NQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNDgxMjUzMDI3ODA5MjQ4MjE2NQ%3D%3D

[swift mango]

He is deficit no? I don't see his roster. Whatever I cook for him gonna lose

[tropic summit]

oh helm isn't treasured ye?

[tropic summit]

he's not in deficit

not on those 2 teams if anything

[undone blaze]

Nope

no sr doll or 3 copies

[swift mango]

I would just 3.5rl slow Cindy team 1 and p1 defender+SW+Rosa+Biscuit team 2. You could always Rapu stun team 2 too.

[tropic summit]

ok messed with your box, you can improve to this, the logic is 2 faster teams and 1 padded team

[undone blaze]

105k, 132k, 160k

[tropic summit]

ye CP still kinda too low on the other, maybe you gotta forsake speed for now

once you've helm treasure available you can restore speed

run 3RL but better padded teams until then

[tropic summit]

how would those teams look? you're using biscuit in T2, meaning you going the nayuta slow cindy in T1? or moran?

@swift mango

[swift mango]

Now that I think about it, not biscuit team 2.

[swift mango]

This is one cook. Scarlet and Jackal need to link to deal with their SW. SW could use Quantum.

HelmT+Moran to deal with their Vesti.

[tropic summit]

oh that's a curious stall

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn check conditions and see if you can run these teams

record cuz that stall team is interesting 🍿

[lunar pawn]

hm?

was about to run the ones you sent earlier actually

are those no good anymore?

[tropic summit]

nah run blood's they're more interesting

[lunar pawn]

alright

[tropic summit]

surviving vestiTU indom sounds more fun

and the indom scarlet against the stacked moran is also curious

[tropic summit]

keep mine as backup plan or to run afterward

[lunar pawn]

vesti got cs lines, would be faster than 3rl, is that fine?

[tropic summit]

ye T2 speed is irrelevant as long as you're within 2.5RL-3.5RL

since vesti can't lethal pre FB

[swift mango]

This is another

Slow Cindy hit SW, Rumani needs some CS.
Rapu stun Vesti, could put Soline p2 and Scarlet p3 to be safer. Could replace, Soline with LapT or anyone high CP ofc

[tropic summit]

le rapu stun

let's see how your first cook goes, this one is also interesting for T2

[swift mango]

I think HelmT p4 would be safer if he didn't do it.

[lunar pawn]

@swift mango @tropic summit

yea scar wasn't linked but t2 imploded so irrelevant ig

forgot I buffed rosanna's atk lines so she stole the jackal link

[tropic summit]

@swift mango what were we expecting from moran bay biscuit

[lunar pawn]

apparently nothing

[tropic summit]

lifesteal didn't even start

[swift mango]

Yeah, should just use Noah instead

[lunar pawn]

why are we even running a moran against a blanc tvesti

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn go with mine next or this

#pvp-arena message

[lunar pawn]

that's an attack for future doppel

closer to season end

[tropic summit]

oke, thanks for testing and sharing tho @lunar pawn

appreciate

[lunar pawn]

happy to help

[swift mango]

Well, it could win but your Moran wasn't strong enough I guess.

[lunar pawn]

only thing she's missing is max core, max ol gear already and 4 def lines

not much else that can make her better

[tropic summit]

ye doppel's moran is actually pretty stacked

think synergy with bay there is just mild unfortunately, unlike when dealing with liberalio

[swift mango]

ATK I guess

[swift mango]

Was she on tempering though?

[lunar pawn]

yea

only place I use her without tempering is pve, where I really need that cp lol

[swift mango]

How much ATK she has, is she phase 3?

[lunar pawn]

ngl I don't even think she has atk lines

yea she doesn't

and 1 ele line

and yea she's p3

[glad rock]

quick morning question guys.
what is the direct counter to moran, helmT, Vesti, Noah, Jackal?

[lunar pawn]

sounds like siren shuts that team down

[shell hazel]

nah that will be 2RL. prob siren proof

[swift mango]

Yeah, she need dmg to life steal enough to with. DEF isn't very good against Vesti

[lunar pawn]

needs to be faster than 2rl though

[shell hazel]

I'd say biscuit instead of jackal likely helps

[glad rock]

yeah, thats a pain

[shell hazel]

moran noah SW biscuit vesti maybe

[swift mango]

No Biscuit, you can just 3.5rl Cindy it.

[lunar pawn]

yea gotta improve her lines at some point, but the queue is long...swha still missing 2 ele lines, rosanna has no ele lines, sbs still missing 1 ele line, midhara missing 2 atk lines, not to mention the incoming meta units

moran really is in the back burner

[glad rock]

will give itt another look.
my noise noah cindy siren jackal isnt beating it at the moment

[covert lintel]

It's still better to atk team 3 than team 1

[shell hazel]

too fast cindy nukes into noah shield prob

[tropic summit]

try with this one

[lunar pawn]

probably, but options become limited

[swift mango]

I was trying to imitate Kricoun team but it's just bad to cook.

[glad rock]

ah, didnt work. probably cp gap.
but thanks for the ideas.
will keep in the locker when i reroll stats again

🙏

[tropic summit]

ye multiply enemy CP for 0.846 before running

if your team score is higher you're not in penalty

[swift mango]

I would try this one of these days.

[lunar pawn]

vs tvesti indom?

[swift mango]

Yeah, all that buffs to Moran.

[lunar pawn]

think I once tried moran trina thelm

I think it only works if the opp has a pepega vesti

but let alone an unbuilt vesti or not, guy still has 41 levels on me

[swift mango]

Yeah, my pic has

• Healing up and ATK up from Anchor,
• ATk up and share healing from Nayuta.
• HelmT healing and DMG up, SW dmg taken up. The team would heal to full when Helm nuke. And keep healing with SW AtK.

[shell hazel]

what is the cp gap like?

if it's in deficit then yep explains a lot 😄

[lunar pawn]

might be doable if the sync levels are at least similar

[covert lintel]

Try this
Centi sac
Siren stun nayu
Rosanna bang helmT and emi
HelmT heal 4 nikke

[swift mango]

40 synch below what my over sign lol.

Shouldn't have recommended Moran stall with that difference

Was it even no deficit?

[glad rock]

huh, after the multiplier i am actually 100m higher. weird

[lunar pawn]

no deficit on first 2 teams

[lunar pawn]

that's deficit without looking at it

[covert lintel]

It's fine
I fought 22deficit with nayu

[lunar pawn]

probably more than 22

[glad rock]

Guess its doable afterall. Will try other variants

[swift mango]

Since you are 40 level below it's easier to actually force them to indom Jackal or Drake on team Vesti. Just break link with Rosa but don't burst with her.

[covert lintel]

@swift mango is decoy persist after cindy died bug or feature?

[swift mango]

How long does it persist?

[covert lintel]

#pvp-arena message
Long enough to make me lose

[swift mango]

He is 40 level below. My cooks doesn't work on that front so I would delete the other ones. You should have said so from the begin and send me his boxes

[lunar pawn]

assume I'm always fighting for my country

[covert lintel]

Cindy died at timer 54
Decoy persist until blanc buff expired

[swift mango]

It was from the days of Delta meta. I thought they fixed it along with Delta but turning out it's not.

[swift mango]

Could you send your boxes and their teams?

[tropic summit]

you never look at boxes anyway

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

glad you're motivated this time at least

[swift mango]

When I cook I always look at boxes

[cedar sorrel]

This annoying clown keeps hitting from 28 to 10

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

And cuz he dumps me to 28 I can only hit him in CH no one else

[tropic summit]

funny jokes you tellin' today but i'll believe

[cedar sorrel]

But point wise even if I dont move from diamond 3 Ill still hit top 10

[covert lintel]

That's the fate of being a challenger 10

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel when's weekend

[lunar pawn]

enemy teams and their cp are here #pvp-arena message

[cedar sorrel]

Its like one of 3 guys that can beat the def so he just keeps farming me even tho hes like 17th overall 😭

[lunar pawn]

and this should be pretty updated too I think #pvp-arena message
for the roster

[shell hazel]

isn't it tomorrow?

[swift mango]

How invested is your Ada, Miranda and Emi?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-avengers-marvel-xOC

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-15530372636024879885

[swift mango]

MirandaT but all the way down line 6. Okay NVM.

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tuesday-ahz-ahzstudio-vewaW4CbEKUh3IYRg1

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Need to know how many ATK% your helm have.

[carmine pond]

Abnormals aside, how can I modify my team to counter his?

Just trying to figure out who to invest in

I'm already working on Noah but she's 0OL, Jackal too. And I haven't even touched Moran, much less T.

[leaden canyon]

I dont remember what I gave you but you could try and do changes if you want to try and defend against the other two

could always ask rail too

Although it is hard to try and defend perfectly against 3 people

[lunar pawn]

miranda has no OL

[swift mango]

Ada max skill?

[lunar pawn]

1077

[versed mesa]

Are there any characters in PVP that get actively worse if you level specific skills too much? If you have the skill books to spare after leveling the skills on your most important units, is it worth leveling skills on less used ones just for the small CP boost?

[lunar pawn]

you can't brick characters by leveling up their skills, if that's your question

[tidal lichen]

moran noah helm swha siren
jack blanc ein/sanis bisc maiden

vesti struggles a lot with the first team

maybe swha indom wins

[quick lake]

Rapunzel burst iirc, but super old teams last time. Now Maxing skill doesnt brick

Oh I rmbed, it was not maxing rapun’s revive burst so that Indom applies to revived chara. Too much HP in revived chara caused mis-indom

It was an old Scar Blanc Rapun setup

super old and niche team. This is the only example afaik

[quick lake]

But tldr, u can max skills for more cp, no problem.

[gritty ridge]

@glad meteor here's the vid you wanted

[mystic wind]

Need team suggestion pls

[humble tiger]

Ah shit. I forgot to check if someone attacked me

WTF is static data download? Ah come on. I have no time for this.

[rich quail]

I try to build units to 7/7/7 for cp, unless there is a good reason not to max out skill/burst like Rapu’s burst

[humble tiger]

Oh thank goodness I'm saved.

[rich quail]

Take any advantage u can get, because whels will try to core+7 all units

Most of us can’t do that, but 7/7/7 is doable because you save on elemental books until you need a unit to go to 10

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Dont mind the rosa indom there

Its peak

[river dune]

@tropic summit your plan worked I was able to beat the guy with Red Hood bursting

Thanks 🙏

[jagged sedge]

Should I max tempering or boost/vigor/quantum?

[gritty ridge]

Quantum to 7, vigor levels enough passively

[jagged sedge]

Ye my vigor is good it has the level 3 health bonus

[ivory violet]

Max tempering it's op

[strange linden]

What is the counter for TVesti+blanc?

[leaden canyon]

Depends on what else is on the team and where blanc is positioned

Usually if its the version that only has two b3 attacker units you can nuke them with a built rosanna

if blanc is in p2 you can try to splash blanc to death

If its the ada version it tends to be a bit slower so you can also try to out speed with a scar nuke, you would use nikketop to see if your scar b3 goes off before blanc b2

if no ada and just vesti blanc you can also try and out stall with moran anchor helmT battery battry

Just depends on which version you are fighting and what you have avaliable

or just do a slower blanc indom

[strange linden]

Does it still works against SR15 units? Thought it was not the case anymore

[leaden canyon]

You just need more attack

If SWHA is on the enemy team she breaks rosanna conceal if rosanna isn't jackal linked

[quick lake]

Moran Noah Helm SWHA flex
Moran Noah Priv SWHA Helm
Slower Blanc
P1 Cindy + Noah + Biscuit

[tidal lichen]

how does p1 cindy noah counter vesti blanc

[strange linden]

I can't see it as well and neither the moran team I don't think dmg reduction will be enough against true dmg

[tidal lichen]

it is enough if built properly

vesti without ada isnt that lethal for moran

and with ada u can just snipe

with helm

[crystal flicker]

By making them burst faster, and Cindy comp will survive those

[tidal lichen]

biscuit immune will be wasted if u place her p1, i dont think theyre surviving a full volley after noah

[crystal flicker]

Cindy P1 is a slow slow comp

[tidal lichen]

ok that makes sense, i was assuming a classic 2.5-3rl cindy comp

[crystal flicker]

Tbh I prefer Rosa

Coz mine is built

[strange linden]

How much atk% you need against SR15 units? Mine is currentlt at 42% (and 70% ele)

[crystal flicker]

It's more about Crit tbh

Invested Rosa can have like 50% Crit R

Inc skill

That being said, I need to roll more Crit

[leaden canyon]

Or do the nayuta rosanna jackal helmT SWHA/emilia team

Depending on the speeds nayuta should be able to finish off the rosanna nuked targets

thats also assuming rosanna is jackal linked, if not have to out helm in p2 and rosanna p4

also obviously have to put jackal p5 in that case

[ancient sun]

Does 3-3.5RL B1 happen before Lib 2RL nuke arrives?

[gaunt pulsar]

3rl easily yes, 3.5 depends on if lib sends at 2rl or slightly earlier and if it's true 3.5 or not

[ancient sun]

I am trying to make a comp for a friend. Cinderella with Moran B1 with deficit advantage. The whole idea is to tank Lib’s nuke without using Noah

Any cancerous team on slight deficit is good

For defense

Also what RL difference is enough for Cindy to bypass Noah’s shield?

[gaunt pulsar]

lib can take quite a huge deficit, just moran even at burst level 10 might not be enough, depends on enemy lib ofc but eh, doubtful

[ancient sun]

I lost against those in the past. Maybe deficit was bigger I guess…

I think in the vid I sent you it happened multiple times

[gaunt pulsar]

i dont have that bad of a lib so i wont have data on what can block her

it's easier to just kill her before her nuke lands so it deals poopoo dmg instead

[gaunt pulsar]

dont remember which one

[ancient sun]

My bad, i didn’t send you

[gaunt pulsar]

4rl against 2rl

[ancient sun]

I am gonna upload the vid on disk and then send you in dms

[swift mango]

15% base + 28% 4 black lines, 43% max

[crystal flicker]

So how the hell this Scarlet burst faster, like way faster than me

Unless this mf has 25% cs

[leaden canyon]

blanc slows you and gives him AR feed

I'll put it throug nikke top though

[swift mango]

Libby with CS also different gen. His units could all have 21% plus

Nah, probably nothing to do with Libby cs

[leaden canyon]

is his scarlet going off before your blanc?

[crystal flicker]

yes

[leaden canyon]

whats your cs

[crystal flicker]

SW fixed tho

[leaden canyon]

yes cs on hood, rumani and jackal

[swift mango]

Did ur Blanc gave a fake heal to an unit as scar slash? Or the unit died by counter before scarlet slash?

[leaden canyon]

so I'm also thinking his SWHA just died before blanc indom

[crystal flicker]

No, they died because Scar slash

[crystal flicker]

RH 10, Rumani Jackal 18

They all died because Scarlet burst first before Blanc

I also putting Temp lv 15 on SWHA and Jackal

[leaden canyon]

should always have quantum on jackal

But there is only a two frame difference here and yes he needs like 24% on jackal with this

[crystal flicker]

I have Quantum on Rumani, it's 100%

[leaden canyon]

quantum affects jackal feed

I'm also looking at frames

[swift mango]

How many bullet their scarlet has? Need a video if anything.

[gaunt pulsar]

if you have a video we can count has much cs he has

[swift mango]

You could just reload bullet whiff

[swift mango]

Even with team wide 25% he isn't making it before a time wide 11%

[crystal flicker]

I beat him already tho, can't record now

[swift mango]

[leaden canyon]

Assuming its looking like this, quantum on SWHA makes it quicker

[crystal flicker]

I'm just wondering how many CS he has to outspeed Blanc 2RL

[swift mango]

More than likely they had 20 ammo on scarlet and the 18% CS units just bullet whiff

[leaden canyon]

but also hood isn't needed there

Unless you cp padding?

[crystal flicker]

Nope

Not against him

[leaden canyon]

Then could take hood out for more gen

This is what it looks like without quantum on SWHA

2 frame difference

[swift mango]

@worldly osprey had his moment where his 18% CS just whiffed on a 20 ammo scarlet and lost

[leaden canyon]

2 frames between your blanc b2 and his scar b3

[swift mango]

Rumani and Jackal is alt has 18% no? Why you only add 15 and zero?

[gaunt pulsar]

probably this 👆

[leaden canyon]

Oh I misunderstood what you said, but the jackal speed doesn't matter, 15 or 18 is the same here

[swift mango]

18 is more than 15. And 18 is much higher than 0.

[leaden canyon]

Yes, I changed the rumani one but if you go between 15 or 18 on jackal nothing changes

so his scar still beat you out at 186 frames for blanc burst

[swift mango]

Nothing changed because Rumani was 0, now that Rumani 18 everything change

[leaden canyon]

Yes

thats what I said

[swift mango]

Change both to 18%

[leaden canyon]

oh both are at 18%

[gaunt pulsar]

even if enemy is like on 24 he is not outspeeding 18 on rumani and jackal, so there external factors at play

[leaden canyon]

I mean there is rng with scar s2 but not sure how many frames he gets from that

[gaunt pulsar]

too far to be promoted even faster

[leaden canyon]

at best you blanc burst at 182 frames and his scar goes off at 206

[swift mango]

Not even team wide 25%.

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, obv

enemy doesn't need more than 1 shot on trina/centi/lib anyway, just one fast unit is enough like jackal on high cs or trina

[swift mango]

Just to note: 18% CS bullet whiffed scarlet 20 ammo. 18% CS bricked you against 20 ammo scarlet.

[gaunt pulsar]

by how much it reduces gen?

you still hit cover right?

[leaden canyon]

well its a whiffed RL shot so pretty significate

it just misses

how much ammo his scar have

[swift mango]

it just pass right through and hit nothing. That's what whiff mean.

[leaden canyon]

so assuming it is whiffing, this brings up back to the 2 frame difference

which scar s2 rng is probably making up

[swift mango]

not really, but blanc indom has a bigger delay than scarlet wipe, 2 frame making up for it,

[leaden canyon]

well the delay also yeah

[gaunt pulsar]

well, if he whiffed 2 rockets against that scar and lost ~27.2%gen, then yea, just becomes too slow

[leaden canyon]

I was thinking about that

[swift mango]

someone post a delayed chart before Scarlet is like 2 frame and blanc js like 4. I should have saved that shit but oh well.

[swift mango]

this too

[gaunt pulsar]

scar is 6, blanc is 6 too, if we talk in nikke top values, actual ones are 3 and 3

#pvp-arena message

[leaden canyon]

thats so weird, my scar doesn't look like that for speed

[gaunt pulsar]

I subtracted 27% energy at 120 frame on his team

can be any frame*

[leaden canyon]

I honestly didn't even know you could do that on nikketop

[swift mango]

well, that doesnt make much sense to me, because blanc delay is much worse, I guess it's delay for blanc Heal, not blanc indom. That's why I didn't save it, I guess.

[leaden canyon]

ah that explains why, I didn't know what that said

ok so we found out thhe problem lol

now watch him tell us the ammo on scarlet actually isn't what its supposed to be to dodge RL

could still be the 2 frame difference with blanc delay

but at least this gives another answer

[gaunt pulsar]

nah, indom is 6, it's just rare to see people operate on such tight frame timing, and when frame are equal afaik dmg might take priority over indom landing

[leaden canyon]

oh 2 frame diff still enough?

[gaunt pulsar]

should be

[leaden canyon]

interesting

[swift mango]

🤷‍♂️ As long as my Nayuta always wipe before Noah or Blanc, whatever u say.

[leaden canyon]

did nayuta burst before blanc on the frames?

or was it equal

[leaden canyon]

So the answer seems to be if his scarlet ammo is 20 your 18% cs makes you whiff against him and you lose 27% gen

so does the scarlet have 20 ammo?

The anticipation

[swift mango]

In old Kosmius and Gatrix chart, Noah and Blanc indom delay like 12+ frame.

the wipe and the heal basically counted as zsro delay.

it's counted as 6 frame delayed here.

[leaden canyon]

well I guess that could also be the answer here if scar is not 20 ammo

Now we play the waiting game

[swift mango]

not really, even with big delay, 18% team wide vs 25% team won't be fast enough

[leaden canyon]

I'm going to be so confused then if this scar is not 20 ammo lol

[crystal flicker]

I need to wait for him to attack me back, but probably yeah
His Scarlet comp is the lowest CP, so might be no ammo Scarlet

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit tomorrow...

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit this prob does the deed yes?

[leaden canyon]

you could throw centi over instead of helm, and throw helm in instead of hood to fast nuke the blanc team, though I would check out nikke top for the speeds

which frees you up to use blanc against t3

[hollow lagoon]

NIKKE deck wise their t3 is 2.5

So I’m scar nuking t3 the Moran

[leaden canyon]

you can easily quick nuke that, let me put it in nikketop

[rigid siren]

i need help building a pvp team both 3 teams and 1v1 team
im ready to also build a lvl 1 character if needed i just couldn't figured it out which one to build thanks again! (also reposted cuz i post it in the wrong channel )

[hollow lagoon]

@leaden canyon what is the best way to yeet a indom vesti on Ada buff anyway

[leaden canyon]

give me a minute

[hollow lagoon]

I feel rail gave me sets before and then I proceed to forget

[hollow lagoon]

Take this and go away

[leaden canyon]

Noise rapunzel helm trina rumani this is one of them

[hollow lagoon]

On indom Ada vesti? Coolio

[leaden canyon]

Let me run it through top real quick but I have seen that be used against vesti ada

Yeah helm goes off before b2

this is also assuming you have no cs on anything

so its of course better if you do

you can replace rumani on t1 with moran

should be fine with a slow cindy on that fight

Of course you can always wait for rail though, he should be around soon

[rigid siren]

ooo thank u very much

what are these btw and the percentages and the square

[leaden canyon]

Btw put blanc in p2 in that set up he gave you, but thats like the only fix

[leaden canyon]

the RL speeds

How soon you burst

so 2RL is the fastest and it means it should take you two RL roations before you burst

oh the ones you circled, its cs increase on vesti, so like 5 or 8 % cs

and the helm one means hher skill for burstgen is maxed

[hollow lagoon]

The mf asking me for help has a no cs vesti, drives me crazy

[leaden canyon]

Lol he probably doesn't know the icons on the sight

which is fine

[rigid siren]

what cs stands for tho

[leaden canyon]

the cs one varies for certain units

[leaden canyon]

charge speed

[hollow lagoon]

I mean the dude on another server

[leaden canyon]

Vesti for example is a unit that only needs 5 or 8% cs for a burst generation increase, 11% is another one for her

[hollow lagoon]

Remember minimum 5% on vesti, otherwise when people make comps for you and fail it’s your fault

If ur vesti is not 5% atleast it means you like to lose

[versed mesa]

Are these sort of the defacto SP defense now? Almost all of my opponents in my bracket have these teams, or atleast variations based on their CP needs.

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn

[tropic summit]

yuki CA debut approaches

[rigid siren]

ooo thanks u very much

[leaden canyon]

see rail is here to fix your problems now zant

off I go to watching anime

[tropic summit]

T1 move biscuit in p3, you can sacc her, keep cindy full HP
T2 should win trade off
T3 you might be ded if enemy is hitting B2 in time

[drifting jasper]

Rail helped me out with an SP team here a couple of days ago (T1 and T2 were wins, T3 loss). They made a couple of small adjustments to their defence now (Trina removed, Emilia moved to T1, Biscuit added to T2). Should these attack teams still work okay do you think, or do I need to tweak them? Cheers!

[leaden canyon]

Talking to rail like hes not rail

[tropic summit]

wow those T2 and T3 again we've been seeing those for at least 4 days in a row

[leaden canyon]

Unless it was one of thhe other rails

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet too late I gave him already

[leaden canyon]

Did you win

[drifting jasper]

Seem pretty popular at the moment for sure. I'm just perpetually locked in a war with this same guy though. Doesn't make big changes but just tiny ones here and there 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

I’d will find out

[versed mesa]

A bunch of the chinese players in my bracket have those or with small variations.

[humble tiger]

Please put me on a group filled with bots. It would be so funny if I actually made it to Top 64.

[crystal flicker]

Since when Rosa became so popular

[drifting jasper]

Makes sense, my entire bracket seems to be Chinese folks + one Russian guy 😄

[versed mesa]

If I can make Top 64 once (even if by mostly pure luck) anyone can

[versed mesa]

Actually broke my months long top 3 streak since I didn't figure out a working counter for several days

[humble tiger]

It's gonna be so baaaaaaaaaaaad.

[drifting jasper]

Daw! I don't even try for top 3 anymore in my bracket. Just happy to hover around 7-10.

[hollow lagoon]

Tf

[tropic summit]

can you post your box? i've 2 teams out of 3 ready, just need a fire code we can sacc in T2

[leaden canyon]

alice would be easy to just randomly guess

[drifting jasper]

Sure. here you go:

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[tropic summit]

Ah perfect midhars

[leaden canyon]

Poor midhara

[versed mesa]

I didn't even intend to, but I've somehow managed to stay on roughly equal CP with the top whales, despite not spending myself, so I kind of felt like I need to atleast try. Worked for a long time, but my main rival has clearly gotten annoyed so he started spending even more to widen the gap faster.

[hollow lagoon]

Rail saccing fire code is pure joy

[drifting jasper]

The levels will be a little out of date, was taken a couple weeks back, but haven't changed OL lines or whatever really.

[drifting jasper]

Sounds like you got a nice bracket. Mine was like that at the start but not so much now. And yeah, I'm F2P as well 🙂

[leaden canyon]

so far 8 rocks into centi btw and no cs lines

managed to get attack third line which is taunting me

[versed mesa]

I'm not F2P, but I only buy mission or event passes with skins I like, but never resources or gems/rocks

[drifting jasper]

Ah okay, fair enough. There are some in my bracket who went up like 50+ levels over night, so they deffo been splurging hehe 🙂

[versed mesa]

My main competition though it's the same and they also buy every gacha skin, which I find just disgustingly overpriced.

[tropic summit]

run these and record, CP requirements

1516k+
1445k+
1447k+

Cubes

noise vigor
rumani tempering
lib tempering
helmt tempering
noah tempering

mihara any, no vigor/tempering
vestiTU tempering or vigor
trina quantum
ros any
jackal quantum

blanc vigor/any
moran vigor/tempering/any
swha tempering/resil/bastion
cindy any
biscuit vigor/any

conditions:

T2 vestiTU and rosanna linked

[drifting jasper]

Cheers! Let me lock them in and I'll post back CP numbers before pulling the trigger 👍

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit which would you rather (in bed) Bmilk or Bade

[tropic summit]

b ade hands down

would give her 4 daughters

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-stilgar-fremen-disbelief-gif-6172544137298110943

[versed mesa]

Rail being based as usual

[hollow lagoon]

Yoink

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/ade-nikke-goddess-of-victory-ade-bunny-bunny-girl-nikke-ade-gif-12109183450767017174

[glad meteor]

booli

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Must be a Bmilk person

[leaden canyon]

lol

[glad meteor]

Pretty much. But also pvp g0on arena

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-smirk-6

[hollow lagoon]

Did me some blue tickets last night so

[broken quest]

Yo guys is moran with treasure replacing some1 rn?

[hollow lagoon]

Right next to eachother

[glad meteor]

wdf

[tropic summit]

in pvp? she still same usage, just better

[broken quest]

hmmm okay

[glad meteor]

Replacing old moran

[strange linden]

Is there even other good DEF for SP? Feels like this is the only decent DEF and it's not even that good with nayuta cope and SW being weak to rosanna

[broken quest]

I don't use moran in general so

[tropic summit]

there's no unbreakable def, but there's harder to crack defs than others

[hollow lagoon]

So ur out competed soon, good to know have a great day

[broken quest]

brooo that's why I came here. need help. I'm in top 10 usually

[hollow lagoon]

Moran treasure

[broken quest]

Current teams- picture n Noise/ Centi/ Emilia/ RH/ Rapunzel.

[drifting jasper]

CP numbers. Did a quick test in Shooting Range, and weirdly Mihara and Rosanna are linked with Jack, despite Vesti having 800+ more attack :/

[leaden canyon]

Not using moran in pvp doesn't help your defense

[broken quest]

I got both moran n priv treasure

[leaden canyon]

I can see why you would be having trouble

[broken quest]

I'm not having trouble man

just asking if I can improve my teams

[tropic summit]

ok throw away midhara and slot in dkw, check CP then

[hollow lagoon]

I was playing my insufferable alt, and I notice base Mihara is really pretty

Or maybe because that account is so cursed the only ssr thing I have is signal

[tropic summit]

base mihara was very pretty already in fact

[rigid siren]

btw what solo team should i use? or i stick with one of these

[tropic summit]

if it wasn't for her og coat blocking most of the view

[hollow lagoon]

Never got a chance to use them purples really

[tropic summit]

merge T1, T2 and T3 to obtain either of these rookie archetypes

• moran noah biscuit swha helmt
• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
• swha helmT vestiTU blanc rh

when one breaks switch to the other

[leaden canyon]

attack overload lines will affect it

so your mihara and rosanna have more att line % then your vesti

[swift mango]

I used mihara purple when I started and lack b3

[tropic summit]

post your box or blablalink set to public and is this for defense or attack

[worthy knoll]

||B Milk is better there, especially if tied up, while BAde is better on the table|| 🏃‍♂️ 💨

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-see-youre-a-man-of-culture-as-well

[broken quest]

attack, will do

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

so this is what you're attacking?

[broken quest]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list

[hollow lagoon]

Are you sure Bmilk is not better against a wall

[broken quest]

I was attacking this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1464027893251182644/image.png?ex=69b1477a&is=69aff5fa&hm=3308965c7076242b3687905107ea9fb7b5ebf18b1de1266e77955232c30d8374&

doe they are all quite whaley

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon

[swift mango]

Maybe you did it with a wall before so you could tell

[hollow lagoon]

[broken quest]

rank 8 is 700k i'm on 646

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Not running a cult

Donno what’s wall

[rich quail]

I would like BMilk against a wall

On the floor, or under a waterfall

I would like BMilk in my house

In my bathtub with a skimpy blouse

I would like her here and there

I would like her in just underwear

I would like Bunny Milk, Zant I Can’t

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/overlord-anime-soldier

[hollow lagoon]

This man has talent

[drifting jasper]

Yea, Mihara has one more line than Vesti. Did try offsetting it by re-rolling a higher number on Vesti's attack lines and removing Mihara's cube, but still no good. I need to finish sorting my Vesti's lines out, but other than 4 x attack, not sure what the others should be (searched a lot on here, and saw a lot of advice). I think currently she's 3 x atk, 4 x CS, 2 x Ammo, 1 x Ele.dmg and 2 x CR. Needs refining for sure. I'll swap in DKW for now as Rail recommended and see how we go 🙂

[tropic summit]

ye don't submit check CP first

[drifting jasper]

Will do, one momento 🙂

[tropic summit]

there's also brid and diesel but don't want to run units on SR15 if possible, need them to be fragile

and vulnerable

[hollow lagoon]

And enjoy being sacc

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-805

[hollow lagoon]

Your Mihara prob tell you “hurt me daddy”

[leaden canyon]

Rail idk if you noticed but he posted his box #pvp-arena message I would cook but I have been up for way too long lmao

[tropic summit]

oke all are in range, let's minmax positioning in T2

dkw trina vestiTU ros jackal

should expect T1 and T3 to win, T2 gonna try their besti

record and yolo

[hollow lagoon]

Modified slow Cindy against vesti on Ada? Spicy

Can Cindy live?

[strange linden]

Mine just got cracked now 😩
I really have no other idea to do other DEF comps, do you have some idea for it?

Might be last attempt and if it doesn't work I'll just cope for another busted unit or next bracket

[tropic summit]

testing out a pseudo slower swha indom with backup cindy if she's lethal'ed

[hollow lagoon]

Interesting take

[crystal flicker]

So you're really making a new union?

[tropic summit]

imo don't change def close to end of season, you'd just give them free attempts

change one at start instead

[hollow lagoon]

Old leader abdicated, but still gonna make new one for casual people

[tropic summit]

try this after reset

xmaiden is swappable with laplace that is then swappable with emilia if you don't have emi

quantum on centi and laplace in that case

ada in T1 is flexable with offburst, splashers, buffers or DPS (privT, laplace/emi/xmaiden, bsoda/drakeT/noir)

[tropic summit]

my lunchbreak is almost over anyway

doing some arknights quickly then back to the grinder for another 4h

[crystal flicker]

Grindr

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

me in bed

[drifting jasper]

Ok results are in. My Vesti team lost, Lib team won, SWHA team lost. Want the recording?

[tropic summit]

ye go ahead, need to check timing on T3 then

[hollow lagoon]

(In bed)

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

Is def running a cult

[rich quail]

bedtime cults are the best

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

fall asleep to cult leader chant

10 hours repeat

[crystal flicker]

Maybe the real cult are friends that we made along the way

idk if I'm gonna Qualify CA this time

[tropic summit]

@drifting jasper change teams to this, even T2 should've a chance now

[crystal flicker]

There's 2 guys fighting me for 2nd spot in SP lmao

[hollow lagoon]

Bmilk do the left Bade do the right, left hand above Milk’s Milk, right hand beneath Ade’s Ahh

[crystal flicker]

is BMlik actually Iron DPS?

I have her but idk if I want to touch her

[hollow lagoon]

She outputs more than redhood

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Was smiten

[glad meteor]

Got modded

[worthy knoll]

[hollow lagoon]

Could post the official one

[glad meteor]

Sometimes Discord nikke doesn’t allow in game nikke art

[crystal flicker]

L server ngl

[glad meteor]

I think they were censoring stuff when anchor was released, and delta or trina story maybe

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit def not a cult

[crystal flicker]

You're their leader

[hollow lagoon]

Nope

@quaint granite

Is now the glorious avatar of the Omnissiah

[quaint granite]

[strange linden]

Pretty similar of mine
What's the purpose of Siren in T1?

What does Ada needs for OL? I got mine, she's a bit underinvested

[tropic summit]

Mitigate indom, stun pressure

[tropic summit]

As for Ada refer to prydwen

[swift mango]

yeah cult isn't that weak

[swift mango]

Same as all other RL 15% CS. Then Ele, atk

[lunar pawn]

Variant of the first already failed before

[swift mango]

Did u run rail line up? Where's vid?

[lunar pawn]

Ran yours

Will use the last attack closer to reset

[swift mango]

That unlinked Scar? I already got that video.

[lunar pawn]

Gotta check cp

[strange linden]

CS is such a pain

[swift mango]

11%

[strange linden]

I hope for Nero treasure so my super invested Nero will make a comeback

[swift mango]

Yeah, Soline can't replace Rapu.

[ancient sun]

Is there a good team for SP defence that uses Blanc indom and can withstand both Rosanna and Siren stun?

[crystal flicker]

You need Jackal to let DPS take 1st pos

Or you can try using non-attacker dps

[swift mango]

Noise p1 help you survive Rosa but can still misindom.

3 dps or XMaiden + Blanc could help you survive Rosa but winning or not is depend

You could still misindom

[forest oar]

Hey do I use slow cindy for this comp? If so could I get an example? Tried to search here to understand but not really getting it.
This guy's full regularly changing his rookie def and logs in right before reset which is kinda cringe in an otherwise sleeper bracket

[ancient sun]

No need for slow cindy. You can punish his team by Rosanna if you have her

[forest oar]

rosanna not built so...

[swift mango]

Slow Cindy with Blanc Indom may work. But I doubt it. And just Vesti+LapT+Emi the Blanc because why not?

[ancient sun]

Rosanna doesn’t need to be built unless you have CP deficit. Because all you want is dispel the link

[forest oar]

oh wait fr i don't need to invest in skill? When is cp deficit a problem in pvp cause ill probs be a bit lower (he's at 1.27m ish) for this

[ancient sun]

Yeah you don’t need skills at all. For CP you check by (CP your team divided by 0.846). If it is higher than their CP, you have no deficit

[forest oar]

who else do I use aside from rosanna? normal stuff like moran trina scar etc?

[ancient sun]

Just show your top 10-15 units

It depends

You can use pretty much anything

[forest oar]

Oh huh cool

Anyways i shouldn't have any deficit problems so guess I'll try something

[tidal lichen]

u can just kill with a slower blanc

[noble python]

You can also multiply their team’s CP by 0.846 to figure out what CP you need to not be in deficit

[tidal lichen]

smth like this should kill super easily

can replace ein with any dps

[ancient sun]

would work as well and it seem you have some of those units invested

[forest oar]

mmm rosanna didn't work and am out of free attempts today

try the others tmr ig

[ancient sun]

what happened there?

[forest oar]

ty for the help

they bursted and sw got indom i think

[ancient sun]

interesting. Would be great if you had recording. I think sbs distributed damage was my error and some other dps like laplace would do better job

[forest oar]

yeah i shouldve recorded but the instant replay wasn't on so

[ancient sun]

you can watch replay from there btw

[forest oar]

no i mean i didn't turn on the capturing until after the fight so it didn't save. did try check but got nothing

[ancient sun]

I undestand, I just tell it for the future

you can use this team later on or just use slower blanc indom like others suggested

make sure that dps you want to indom has lower hp than other unit linked with jackal

[forest oar]

yeah i forgot to change some settings back after i got whacked by the endfield malware thing and had to reset my pc. But alr ty for the help

[lunar pawn]

@tropic summit not sure if it's worth it

Since it's t2 moran vs indom tvesti with over 40 lvls difference

Not gonna change anything I think

I mean rail's teams

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit defiantly aint a cult

[swift mango]

I guess your Moran not gonna tank that Vesti.

Maybe if she had enough buff to life steal I guess

Maybe use AR and Rosa so Blanc Indom on Jackal.

Or something like Indom scarlet to win indom war.

[upper grove]

join the cult for the 2 big arguments huh

[hollow lagoon]

Def not a religious movement

[swift mango]

I would not understand this meme if it was last year before I read a 40k Manhua where MC was a mechanicus priest.

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

Hi

Is rail off?

[hollow lagoon]

my union's new leader insisted on keeping this

[warm monolith]

Ok?

[hollow lagoon]

them bay lovers sure are many

very many

[warm monolith]

only one is her husband

Me

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

[hollow lagoon]

rail is at work

either that or his arm is twitchy again

[warm monolith]

Oh ye, he workin i forgot

Im still the youngest, uncs

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

Not having to do taxes

And not worry about my income (cuz not)

Anyways im off to playing sw till rail cames back, bye

[tropic summit]

i wonder when he comes back

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-girl-142

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

if you didn't run my latest teams give it a shot

[upper grove]

he just went outside to get some milk and cigarettes

[versed mesa]

What would you guys use against Moran/Noah/Biscuit/SWHA/Centi? This is in Rookie

[warm monolith]

Hi

[tropic summit]

milk ye, cigarette nah i don't smoke

[tropic summit]

nayuta cinderella biscuit rh rumani

[versed mesa]

I'll give it a shot

[versed mesa]

And his ship is sunk. Cheers

[tropic summit]

ye but i hate using that one

[versed mesa]

Nvm, lol tried again quick battle and lost

[tropic summit]

i need to find a DPS oriented trade off that can win instead of slow cindy

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

one of them is even their wife instead

[tropic summit]

watch it and see if he critted

then you can fix positioning to tank with biscuit

rh is flexable afterall

[warm monolith]

[swift mango]

[gritty ridge]

Hello chat

[warm monolith]

Hi

[gritty ridge]

Im not enjoying building pve

I wanna go back to CA

[tropic summit]

Hi pookie

[gritty ridge]

Hi👉 👈

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-cute-gif-398405330714114054

[versed mesa]

Clicked away too soon to watch the lost quick battle, did two non quick and won them both, but it varied, either just RH died, or biscuit and RH both died around the same time, still won with the rest

[warm monolith]

Im alone again :(

[swift mango]

I'M not enjoying building anything.

[gritty ridge]

Doro refuses to roll anything good

[tropic summit]

hmm would be nice if you could record when the team actually loses

we can put the patch needed to make it consistent if it's related to RH/biscuit positioning

or just slightly speed it up

[gritty ridge]

Rail you ever have to use endurance cube

[tropic summit]

one desperate cook used it on moran

but in general you'll have temperance/vigor

[gritty ridge]

I have to use it when theres an sbs for indom

[tropic summit]

ye that's smart, you can force SBS to target the unit you want

was way more common to run into SBS indom in 2025

especially early 2025

then certain units released and it was bye bye

[versed mesa]

Well shit, lost another one, but recording didn't save

[swift mango]

Just put endurance to p2-3-4-5 and p1 without, no need Noah

[versed mesa]

RH died first then Nayuta indom ran out and she died, then biscuit and cindy and rumani kept slugging his Centi and Moran until cindy died and then rumani

[tropic summit]

ok so it's speed issue on RH

could add ada instead of RH so we make it a tad faster

in case there's also xmaiden option

when you got 5 more attempts let's see whichever is more consistent

@shell hazel this feels so good

[versed mesa]

I will probably try with Maiden, she is just vastly better built and higher cp than Ada

[swift mango]

Did RH die before she burst or after?

If after then increasing speed probably won't change anything

[tropic summit]

sure sounds good

[shell hazel]

boy is farming on ez mode

[versed mesa]

I'm pretty sure RH did burst before she died

[swift mango]

How about Nayuta?

[versed mesa]

Yeah she definitely did

[tropic summit]

he won several but lost one iirc? my initial thought was that it's cuz of RH dying pre burst, but since he says she died after i'm even more confused

oh maybe the after shoots from when SWHA dies still hit the team afterward and may or may not kill

[versed mesa]

The 3 wins most of his team was dead before my RH died though, so I guess RH might have not bursted after all on the two losses

[tropic summit]

that's the only thing i can think of that makes it inconsistent

a record would've helped but maybe he doesn't change teams after reset

[versed mesa]

He usually sticks to his defense and only changes it every other week. I think since his previous teams I just won against outright every time, the fact that I lost 2 times he will probably keep this

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-grabby-1

more testing then

[versed mesa]

And btw I had a chance to still finish 3rd in SP, but my main rival tilted and used gems after both of our free tickets were used. Consolation prize though that he used 100 gems just to keep me from 3rd, so he only wins 200 gems over me

[tropic summit]

🤏

[nimble root]

Hey bud, need some help deciding where to slot moran atm. She's fully treasured, this is what I'm currently using. Can share the rest of my box if needed

[tropic summit]

ye box would help, we need to ideally remove scarlet

[nimble root]

[tropic summit]

these are for def teams ye?

[nimble root]

ATK and DEF if possible

I currently use both setups for ATK and DEF

[tropic summit]

for attack keep them as is especially if you've become familiar with how those teams work

for def we can upgrade a bit

[nimble root]

Sounds good, I'm pretty familiar with them more or less. I pretty much only get walled by noah noise comps

I've tried blanc indom shenanigans but I still get nuked, probs because my blanc is low cp/bad lines

[tropic summit]

that's very situational on what you facing and the speed though

[swift mango]

I guess it's wether Centi survive the Cindy burst with biscuit s2 or not.

[nimble root]

I think its a noise noah biscuit cindy and swha specifically

I do have some decent cs lines at least

[tropic summit]

SP arena to upgrade your def

• moran noah biscuit swha emilia
• jackal vestiTU blanc trina lib
• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT

any spare quantum you can throw it on trina, as for liberalio ensure she has more HP than vestiTU, else just feed her a vigor

[nimble root]

Is there anyone I can sub lapT out for atm? I have her SR15 and OL gear and full treasure mats but im missing 1 copy for BL30

[tropic summit]

rumani is unused i guess, move trina instead of laplaceT and rumani instead of trina

i take it she's not treasured yet uh

[nimble root]

I really appreciate it, thank you for your efforts

[nimble root]

Literally need just 1 copy

I've got like 350 of her treasure mats

[nimble root]

[swift mango]

@lunar pawn you could win like this too I guess, against Vesti

[gritty ridge]

That looks familiar

[shell hazel]

any snipers getting ready?

[tidal lichen]

surely doesnt bother right

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-gun-point-sniper-rifle-gif-16445332

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-sakurajima

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-seishun-buta-yarou-wa-bunny-girl-senpai-no-yume-wo-minai-rascal-does-not-dream-slap-gif-11186911391748025274

[tidal lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-wake-up-cute-gif-6816834191075266872

[tropic summit]

i'm about to hit this guy, he thinks he's the protagonist and gonna get laid with shadowheart, not on my watch

[versed mesa]

I used my free tickets already for last ditch effort to get the top 3 score, so no sniperino for me. Going to tone down for real next season anyway. Too much anxiety for 1 extra pull every two weeks

[nimble root]

Been like this for awhile for me, I have no idea when i'll get another lap copy

[shell hazel]

shadowheart? no sir. priscilla

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-road-to-el-dorado-both

[lunar pawn]

Which ones are your latest

[lunar pawn]

I thought we established moran won't work

[gritty ridge]

My lap is also dupe 1. I got the dupe from new years. I will never have t.lap

[tropic summit]

oh ye it still had moran, this is likely to fail

#pvp-arena message

let's go with slow cinderoni

[lunar pawn]

Can run jackal redpi blanc xmaiden thelm on his tvesti indom, it always worked

[nimble root]

Lowkey feel the same, I'm never going to pull another copy of her atp. Didn't realize how important she was back when you could buy her dupes with silver tickets

[gritty ridge]

I could never buy her dupes

Account too new

[nimble root]

Don't feel too bad i'm like 3 months behind on my entire zone

[tropic summit]

oh if you wanna retain that indom team then we can free up xmaiden

[nimble root]

Lowest cp in the top 10 by a massive deficit

Everyone at 3.4m im at 2.8m

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn record and yolo 🍿

[lunar pawn]

Missing 11k cp on t1

[tropic summit]

anyone higher CP than rumani?

e.g. laplace, emi

or higher CP than moran

[lunar pawn]

Everyone

Rumani is among my lowest cp

[tropic summit]

ur box is here let's see #pvp-arena message

[lunar pawn]

Even centi is higher

Yea it's mostly the same

[tropic summit]

nayuta cindy rumani biscuit noise do you get out of deficit?

[lunar pawn]

Cindy in p2 is fine?

[nimble root]

Well at least you get 3k gems every 2 weeks, I can barely hold top 4

[tropic summit]

ye they'll be still 2RL

[nimble root]

Top 1 and 2 4m cp top 3 3.5m

[gritty ridge]

I need that emote, where you get from

[nimble root]

This server

[gritty ridge]

The crying one, i know someone who would like it

[nimble root]

Oh

[lunar pawn]

Yea

[tropic summit]

hmm like it less than before but it will do

[nimble root]

Its from an invite only server, infinity nest

Modded version of Dragon Nest

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok

[tropic summit]

2235k vs 2256 you in range

[tropic summit]

for T3 sacc drake and save noah

moran drakeT swha vestiTU noah

[lunar pawn]

25k under deficit in t3 anyway

[tropic summit]

oh ye you're ded

[glass wing]

Help
First team all good

[tropic summit]

is ada built?

oh won't need actually

[glass wing]

not yet

[tropic summit]

run this

condition for T2: helmt more HP than vestiTU, you can give her vigor

cubes

moran tempering
rumani tempering
lib tempering/vigor
swha any/vigor
noah tempering

jackal quantum
blanc vigor/any
vestiTU tempering
biscuit vigor/any
helmT vigor/any

[glass wing]

let's see

[tropic summit]

check CP as usual

[supple plover]

What's minimum investment for OG soda for CA?

[glass wing]

seems good only problem is that the cubs not all of them are upgraded

[tropic summit]

ye CP is good on this one

[tropic summit]

depends where you placing her

p4 she can be 4/4/4 with barely any invest, even OL-less

p2 needs invest (4OL, R15-SR5)

[supple plover]

Hmm I see.. What about Label? Will SR5 suffice?

[tropic summit]

depends where you using her

[tropic summit]

and in which team

[tropic summit]

did you check CP? not killing a single unit while indommed is kinda sus

[glass wing]

is this one lol

[tropic summit]

[tidal lichen]

no ammo?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

[keen vapor]

Snipers

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ginjirou-nezu

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/獅白ぼたん-ホロライブ-shishiro-botan-shishiro-botan-gif-25933696

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sniper-32

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/zaku-i-sniper-gif-16856670108110308877

[lunar pawn]

@tropic summit @swift mango

[tropic summit]

wasn't T2 supposed to win

then again T1 surviving noise and nayuta buffed cindy nuke is something else

[lunar pawn]

I moved thelm from p5 to p3

should've left blanc in p3

[tropic summit]

oh oke at least you know what to do for next time

[rain thicket]

how do you counter pick this ?

[frank zephyr]

Swipe to CP gap them

[tropic summit]

blanc cindy biscuit xmaiden rumani

[rain thicket]

did not work

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy team CP for 0.846

your score needs to be equal or higher

[rain thicket]

not a CP issue either

[tropic summit]

did you get to cast cindy nuke and wipe helmt and swha?

[rain thicket]

yup, Cindy and XMaiden survived the initial onslaught but the Moran soloed them both (Cindy on indom)

[small gale]

is EH meta to the arena?

[tropic summit]

no you can skip her

[rain thicket]

in fact it's always the issue, i kill everyone else but Moran but she then makes a comeback in a long game

[lunar pawn]

nobody reads my name

[placid bloom]

it is time for PvE units to take over PvP

[tropic summit]

oh that's a lot of dmg

[placid bloom]

maybe Helm better instead of SWHA if you want extra atk dmg on FB

[small gale]

try taking out the two attackers with Rosanna

[tropic summit]

if rosanna is built mind running

nayuta swha helmt rosanna jackal with rosanna linked?

[rain thicket]

she's built but HelmT and SWHA linked

[tropic summit]

hmm that's a problemo

[tropic summit]

nayuta helmt laplaceT rosanna jackal, check links with this instead
or
nayuta helmt emilia rosanna jackal

[small gale]

is there etiquette for hitting people in rookie arena? I only usually attack people once a day but there's a guy who been hitting me 5 times in a day for several days

[tropic summit]

sort of, in general people will hit a person once or twice per day but it's not an actual rule or anything

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

what you can do in that case is let them hit you 5 times everyday until last 2 or 3 days, then you take all your points back on last day

[tropic summit]

the 4D chess master plan

[shell hazel]

or if you're on near reset just hit back then lol

after they hit you that day already

[lunar pawn]

[rain thicket]

link worked with LaplaceT but not enough energy gen, Ros ult hit Noah ult

[tropic summit]

oh you weren't supposed to run it yet just wanted to know link, we need feed with lappy

[humble tiger]

Yup. Some guy attacked me and dropped me to CH5 tho.

[tropic summit]

@rain thicket

if we know you're linked, we can arrange to get feed in p2

[humble tiger]

Someone's gonna die with hammers today. I know exactly who did this.

[tidal lichen]

[tropic summit]

@rain thicket this should promote you to 2RL, although i've a feeling moran will still taunt 1 shot from rosanna

[nimble root]

The top 1 and 2 in my zone attack me 5 times each, they're guild butt buddies. I don't believe in RA "etiquette" as a result lol

[rain thicket]

there's 2 Rosanna so prob a mistake lol

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[tropic summit]

ye forgot to copy paste

ros jackal helmt laplaceT noah

[severe nimbus]

for Rookie I just hit whoever has the highest points that I can beat. if that person happens to have enough points where they still have more points than the next guy and causes them to get hit 3-4 times...well sucks to be them i guess lol

[rain thicket]

still didn't work, pressed the wrong button so i only seen the replay once but it seems like it hit Noah again given how it did no dmg

[tropic summit]

do you've the end result screenshot at least?

assuming natural 2RL on both sides, at the very least you should lethal the first attacker to the left, while the second shot goes to moran/noah

[rain thicket]

no i pressed esc twice by mistake
but no one died on opposite team

[tropic summit]

and no emilia on your side right?

@swift mango does ada buff affect emilia nuke btw?

[humble tiger]

I'm scared lmao.

[hollow lagoon]

sync more

https://giphy.com/gifs/tophermcgee3-star-wars-more-kylo-ren-iv80ZwyJ0ep0GU9jap

[humble tiger]

No... I'm final qualifying for CA.

[rain thicket]

you mean if i do have her ?
yes i do, link still works if i use Ros/Jackal/HelmT/Emilia/Noah

[tropic summit]

hmmm

[lunar pawn]

I wonder if I should keep the same CA team or change it

[hollow lagoon]

me know not

[lunar pawn]

last setup got me as far as top 16 for the first time

[tropic summit]

1 more attempt with this

emilia and jackal quantum 7 for natural 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

me tooo but

[lunar pawn]

guy who defeated me was allegedly a famous CN pvp dude who was a 3x champ

[hollow lagoon]

I’m 3x champ i ain’t famous and I lose all the time

[lunar pawn]

might keep the same teams ngl

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit if i want to participate in ca i must beat one of the big 3 whales, so can you help w that? pls

[rain thicket]

Rosanna doesn't seem to work that great, maybe mine isn't good enough ?

[tropic summit]

SR15 atk 40% ele 40%?

[lunar pawn]

[rain thicket]

NOPE lol
30% Atk 10% Ele SR5
4/4/7

[tropic summit]

skill wise not quite there, 7/10/10 is recommended so you're suffering a bit from multipliers

the OLs aren't too bad

but ye she's not usable here it looks like

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t think ur winning period

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-jujutsu-kaisen-12

just wait a month or two for the reshuffle to happen

[warm monolith]

Theres 3 guys in total like this and 2 guys and i try for 4th place every season i never won

[warm monolith]

Theres no reshuffle.

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz u can’t

[tropic summit]

maybe one of them quits...?

[warm monolith]

Beat this yourself then

[hollow lagoon]

Ur not beating that deficit

[warm monolith]

Even if he quits i cant still win

[tropic summit]

if he quits for a few months you can

[warm monolith]

Anyways i got 2 SSRs in ordinary banner, take yall guesses

[warm monolith]

Maybe

[hollow lagoon]

169 gap

[tropic summit]

bay and bay

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/takagi-san-anime-smug

[warm monolith]

Sadly i took her off my wishlist

[hollow lagoon]

@hollow lagoon and I thought I gapped my bracket hard

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Got pilgrim :D

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon you accidentally pinged @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

I think I’m going delululu

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[warm monolith]

Yay another siren

[silent torrent]

what'd be a good counter team to this team?

[tropic summit]

#gacha-rolls

[warm monolith]

Cmon man

[silent torrent]

#gacha-rolls

[warm monolith]

[noble python]

Bad boy

Go to Gacha rolls with that

[upper grove]

@tropic summit @swift mango @shell hazel

[warm monolith]

These arent gacha rolls so i dont need to go there

[upper grove]

no mihara no helm no manchor, overrated

[warm monolith]

Time to redo my wishlist ig

[lunar pawn]

tmoran

[tropic summit]

so the privaty version afterall and without anchor

take notes @glad meteor @swift mango

also do you've the video uploaded already @upper grove

[upper grove]

my best try when I was 7k cp lower, just that tiny bit of deficit decrease was enough

[upper grove]

no I have to sift through my recordings first

[tropic summit]

doing god's work, lemme know when it's up i'm preparing my 🍿

[rain thicket]

@tropic summit
thoughts ?
will try after reset i'm not geming just to try this lol

[tropic summit]

hmm siren unfortunately won't help and the other one is going to be a full mirror

worth a shot for full mirror if you can invest diff them i guess

[tropic summit]

try

noah biscuit rapunzel helmT SWHA, should be able to misindom on biscuit, record the match so we can doublecheck the dmg on p5

you need 559k CP minimun btw

[ashen kite]

does anyone have a team recommend against a noise/noah/swha/siren/helmt? ive tried a noise/noah/biscuit/swha/helmt and it ends up being noah in a 1v2 noah siren

[tropic summit]

moran blanc cindy biscuit rumani

[ashen kite]

ty!

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit have a ca set?

[tropic summit]

to copy pasta from you mean?

[hollow lagoon]

Other way around

[tropic summit]

this was an interesting cook, aside soline team that is not reliably landing indom

[hollow lagoon]

Soda scar

Sigh

[tropic summit]

you don't need to copy all of them

[hollow lagoon]

The dual taunt is interesting

Oh wait Tis a single