pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Higher and my Rapipi not deal enough dmg at all and SW at least could snipe boss.

[fathom rock]

60fps and min fire is an assumption

[hollow lagoon]

people with prydwen need to explain to me how ur gonna kill a moran comp on helm with vesti not on ada buff

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-hader-eating-popcorn-keith-morrison-dateline-snl-gif-25666169

[swift mango]

Idk but she is just worse dmg to me. They have same 20% atk,

[tropic summit]

that's the thing we argued about the whole night if you remember, judging a unit situationally or for her whole kit

[hollow lagoon]

its not situationally if 1/3 of the comps in this universe runs that shit

[tropic summit]

situationally? ada can be SSS
her kit as a whole, competing with other units in all scenarios? you can't for example compare her to helmT or SWHA

[placid bloom]

SWHA cannot really snipe boss at deficit, 2 charge shot alone is not enough

[swift mango]

RH buff and 2 charge

[tulip quest]

Her main dps to begin with is not the charge but her passive skills

[placid bloom]

even that cannot snipe

[tulip quest]

press x for doubt

[swift mango]

So long as the boss die during her burst.

[tropic summit]

that's just because people don't know how to pvp

[tulip quest]

x

[tropic summit]

and keep in mind CA win ratios are excluded

[placid bloom]

I cannot kill the triple farter in base defense with her

[fathom rock]

I kid you not I was stuck on a wheel stage which is dps check, my c5 SwHA with mmast and helmT and rhb1 can't kill on time, I whip out rrh and she just works

[placid bloom]

well I can kill 2 of them but the 3rd one has like double the HP for no reason

[swift mango]

Bruh, Farter is tanky. And snipe mean only kill 1.

[placid bloom]

[fathom rock]

Sw can snipe with 1 target alive good luck

[tropic summit]

blood put on your chat, time to block him

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-pepe-think-pepe-the-frog-wojak-gif-13571840648507225174

[placid bloom]

also I cannot burst RH if I need to burst Moran to survive fart to begin with

[fathom rock]

The emote is like slightly annoying but if that constitutes a block I wouldn't be MA for more than a month

[tropic summit]

what a chad

[hollow lagoon]

just kill them

[tulip quest]

Bro Blood's PTSD man

[placid bloom]

my damage too peepee, my base defense bar perma red

[fathom rock]

Speaking of farts

[placid bloom]

if my Rapi was C7 maybe

[swift mango]

against fart specifically you burst with helm.

[placid bloom]

no I don't need Helm, Ada Nayuta Moran work

[hollow lagoon]

aye

[fathom rock]

Nayuta Ada MoranT beats helm that can't even heal herself bc she do 1 dmg

[placid bloom]

Helm is dps loss

I can burst real B3 with Ada proc

[jolly maple]

lowest clear malder best starting point actually around re collab?

[placid bloom]

and share the heal with Nayuta

[swift mango]

if you wanted to kill moran than 1 target quickly you use Vesti ofc.

[fathom rock]

I am not beating klo

[placid bloom]

Vesti cannot kill 7 farter

unless it's fire weak but this fuken base def always elec weak

[swift mango]

There is a defend stage with 7 farter at same time?

wtf?

[placid bloom]

2 on wave 1, then 3, then 2

[hollow lagoon]

lb0 units artifically lowered cp?

[fathom rock]

Lowest clear on one of these type stages was actually nayuta vesti Ada rrh mmast
Force clears before 3 farter an issue

[placid bloom]

Vesti dps too low to keep your bar not red

[swift mango]

Well, just use two dps.

[fathom rock]

Takina artificially lowered cp

[swift mango]

Only people with chest hair playing at above 40% deficit.

[hollow lagoon]

man idk

its like, i can invest rocks which i can barely buy, into some lb0

or i can just pull more of a unit and use core 3+

and get more damage by having higher cp

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[placid bloom]

klo actually do no cdr B1 for the base def, only get 2 burst

[swift mango]

some people just wanted to have their name on low clear. little did they know new nikke would powercreep their score later on.

[placid bloom]

my damage cannot even clear

[tropic summit]

doesn't mean they shouldn't try

[hollow lagoon]

that's how it is, one of my union mate tried that shit for an afternoon, i'm like u stop with that shit every hour u lose core dust

[swift mango]

only highest CP of all time is kind of eternal because whale are less than malders.

[tropic summit]

let the man mald

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

my union is not democracy

[tropic summit]

what are you, the god emperor

[hollow lagoon]

fish king of the pond

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/imperial-fist-warhammer

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Change your name to Jimmy Space.

[tropic summit]

i'll come fish you out

https://klipy.com/gifs/pain-kill-1

[hollow lagoon]

my union leader told me yesterday he passed ziz with lower cp than me using moranT, i'm like let me see, sync 621 yeah seems pertty trash tier

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

so long as he could get his name into lowest of all time.

[hollow lagoon]

nah man

@shell hazel is in the union

whatever recoard will get washed

[fathom rock]

40% or not
It's a hard counter for farts

[fathom rock]

Force clear the stage before the farts spawn

[swift mango]

you should have chest hair I guess.

[hollow lagoon]

wait

didnt retro clear mirrior container??

or i'm i delusional?

[tropic summit]

since long time ago

with massive low CP and pause strat

[hollow lagoon]

then tf is this

[tropic summit]

watching his record makes you wanna puke tho

[tropic summit]

he has several accounts tho

[swift mango]

I mean I cleared defense stage with fart this way too twice,

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

yeah for once you aint trippin'

[hollow lagoon]

i imagined my self with more than 1 account and then i had vision of homelessness

[swift mango]

then his score never seen again on leaderboard thanks to powercreep

[hollow lagoon]

not for now atleast

MC's direct counter aint here yet

tho next electric pilgrim tier might seal the deal

[swift mango]

ada made it easier

[hollow lagoon]

i know

[swift mango]

lower the cp needed

[hollow lagoon]

by the time i cleared it i didnt even have a invested mmast

[fathom rock]

MirT takina Ein Ada Siren can do 40%+ deficit on mc btw

[hollow lagoon]

deficit is something i realized

wont exist forever

when i cleared only one

so like..... i'm trying my hardest to keep some deficit

[swift mango]

Anyway, we should have sugar alt or treasure soon. Whoever appeared on Collab always had their power up next.

I hope it's treasure

[hollow lagoon]

we are long over due for sugar alt/treasure

[swift mango]

but Sugar alter who probably kill all my mileage.

[hollow lagoon]

how much u got

[fathom rock]

Quiry WA sin RE coleb

[hollow lagoon]

i have 1530

[swift mango]

only 430

[hollow lagoon]

welp if u pull eh u'll have more gold milage

[swift mango]

So not even enough for MLB. But I would try for MLB at least like Elegg, used 800 mileage on her because 0 in 150 pulls and bricked doro.

[hollow lagoon]

now i contenplate if i should try to see if i can 641 for union raid

prob wont make it

[swift mango]

you can just 💳 more

[hollow lagoon]

i rathe buy skill manuals now day

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-buy-buying-credit-card-card-gif-2322268583179634759

[hollow lagoon]

bro imagine if i 641 by the time next chapters release

and then people talk about clearing on 60% deficit

[swift mango]

just use lv1 siren

[hollow lagoon]

and me here just "sad smile" yes struggle of them mortals

[tropic summit]

60% what?

at that deficit shooting enemies probably starts healing them instead

[hollow lagoon]

in 3 more years even you wont have much of a deficit anymore

[tropic summit]

in 3 years i hope nikke has long since EoS'ed

[swift mango]

deficit cap at 40% just like in Arena.

Anymore doesn't matter. Only synchro matter

[tropic summit]

ah lovely, 90% reduced stats

[hollow lagoon]

dude just need a nikke that strip enemy def and we golden

[fathom rock]

No

[swift mango]

should be 50-60% max for Campaign

[tropic summit]

...true damage?!

[hollow lagoon]

true damage units suck and u know it

[fathom rock]

Also 54.9% is campaign max and it's sometimes doable

[swift mango]

what?

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

misinfo, time to block

put on my chat so i've a good excuse to block you

[swift mango]

Isn't this stat reduction cap? % should be 40%. I saw people talked about it on team building.

[placid bloom]

defense stripper can be used with real B3, true dmg B3 only rely on themself

[fathom rock]

40% deficit is 69.8% stat reduce in camp

[hollow lagoon]

this man gets my point

[tropic summit]

there's a lot of nikke i'd like to strip ||of their defense||

[swift mango]

isn't that the cap already?

[fathom rock]

Actually the max in campaign won't reach 90%

[swift mango]

yeah, I saw people said that before.

[fathom rock]

Max stat penalty in campaign is 81.65% at 55% deficit

[placid bloom]

40% was never max

[swift mango]

good to know.

[hollow lagoon]

i recall i touched 40% a couple times, but like

[swift mango]

maybe I remembered it wrong

[hollow lagoon]

i dont think its possible for me to have 40% anymore

unless i intentially hold back syncing

[placid bloom]

40% is like mid deficit now since pilgrim team can auto 35%

[swift mango]

just out roll your crown to tier 1 ammo x4. And use lv1 Siren.

[hollow lagoon]

my crown has 2-3 ammo

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

funny joke, the korean lad can already be seen on the horizon

he's staring at you

[swift mango]

only 1 line of tier 1 ammo on each piece.

[hollow lagoon]

why would i gimp my self, i'm not playing deficit gimmick, i'm speed run

[fathom rock]

I'm playing speedrun rn too

[hollow lagoon]

[fathom rock]

Rail san told me about ziz sadly I was of no use

[hollow lagoon]

rail is pvp

[swift mango]

your first account is month 1. You are just doing theme park play now.

[tropic summit]

no, i am shooting range main

[tropic summit]

i dabble occasionally in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

i love ziz

[tropic summit]

got some basics down

rarely help out and shiet

[fathom rock]

As a boss or as a character

[hollow lagoon]

i invited a sync 363 to union and the leader got mad at me, i'm like clear ziz then u get to talk to me

[tropic summit]

clearly as a character, cuz if he likes it as a boss i'm gonna be under his bed tomorrow

[placid bloom]

I like Ziz boss bgm

[hollow lagoon]

i cleared ziz on 3 account

[tropic summit]

clear it on a f2p account on 561-581 so you can help me and kara, forget about blood he's a booly

also he at ppl

[swift mango]

poor newbie union wanting to get higher rank.

[hollow lagoon]

idk what ur deficit

[tropic summit]

yes

[hollow lagoon]

i havent tried moranT on ziz it would be fun

[tropic summit]

fun he says

[fathom rock]

Ziz is the furthest from fun a boss can be
The gimmick is shoot and pray

[hollow lagoon]

wot

ziz is like 3rd most fun boss

1st is mirrior container

then alturia

then ziz

[tropic summit]

this is the fun

[fathom rock]

I won't argue with it I'll say goodbye

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/owari-no-seraph-sayuri-hanayori-good-bye-bye-wave-gif-12912666

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mudae-wave

@swift mango merry typed to me

he told me the reason he blocked you

[swift mango]

Well, good to know he still alive,

[swift mango]

nothing I didn't know

[tropic summit]

he told me he blocked you cuz you him

also he said your sister is hot

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/firefly-hsr-4

[swift mango]

You should thanks him.

[tropic summit]

nah he hasn't been on since end of january no news

pretty sure he's just busy or quit discord perhaps due to that privacy shit going on

[swift mango]

good manga released slowly,,.. Waited few months just for 3 chapters.

[hollow lagoon]

investing rocks on boss is just.... insanity

[tropic summit]

f2p life

either high ele atk% or go home

we don't have access to cores

[hollow lagoon]

i like how my rapi was core 2 on chapter 40

[tropic summit]

could MLB perhaps but eh

[hollow lagoon]

but by the time i reach ziz she core 5

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime86

[hollow lagoon]

and her rerun banner didnt even happen

just pops 2 of her with blue tickets and 1 from pilgrim mold

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jo-jo-gang

[hollow lagoon]

mfker prob didnt ask for machine god's blessing before pulling

like me who made that mistake

180 pulls for mlb eh instead of the usuall 80 ish

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-yeet-gtfo-kick-cliff-push-cliff-gif-9944415665032080774

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/uscpsc-falling-cpsc-consumerproductsafetycommission-P8jMxtvsBNaLqs7ja7

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/trust-fall-failure-funny-as-hell-kenzi-bo-lost-girl-gif-22594232

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/family-guy-fox-family-guy-foxtv-3o6ZtpRoYe9wbyfcBi

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25857734

[hollow lagoon]

3% crit roll on Sanis

i know its better but not this much better

[fathom rock]

Imagine if the dmg increase is you getting better cindy rng smh

[hollow lagoon]

nah

[pale knoll]

Damn swiping heavy no? Thoguht you started a year ago

[umbral crown]

Es una ballena

[pale knoll]

Como tu?

[umbral crown]

Cozmo tu

[hollow lagoon]

closing in on 1.5

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

Oh nice

[fathom rock]

Havel is dis you

[pale knoll]

Already passed my acc when it started in first anniversary

[umbral crown]

But ere famous

[pale knoll]

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

Blood me hizo una buena defensa en spa

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

Chilleando ahora

[umbral crown]

Caracoles

🐌

[pale knoll]

[fathom rock]

I wish my brackets ever did that
They just beat first try

[hollow lagoon]

check if they are in DM with @tropic summit

[pale knoll]

I mean I gap everyone a bit, sync is best defense after all

[fathom rock]

Thanks to trusting my process atleast I maintain runk

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

yes i clearly regularly help all of @fathom rock opponents in beating the teams i suggest him in the first place

[fathom rock]

Imma have to switch from that, slow cind seemed to work best

It work so well he copy my team

[hollow lagoon]

its not not impossible

[umbral crown]

Then rail says: go use libe

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

didn't i made a def comp witn slow cindy the other day?

[pale knoll]

No tengo a la noah todavía 🥀

[fathom rock]

It worked best when I didn't use biscuit or blanc smh

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-you-tell-me-david-rose-david-dan-levy-gif-20767172

[umbral crown]

Pero

How do not you have besto shieldo

[tropic summit]

blanc i could understand, if they know how indom works... but biscuit in general should always add a bit of difficulty

[fathom rock]

I'll unbrick my na and let rail run wild in imagination

[hollow lagoon]

[pale knoll]

Lil btch doesnt want to appear

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smug-smug-anime-8cf

[hollow lagoon]

all it does is force people to lib it tho, atleas the other comps are nasty

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

I would change bay for trina

[hollow lagoon]

ah, that is if some how noah dies to high ele vesti

[umbral crown]

Bay to take over

[hollow lagoon]

ye

dosnt matter either way

that comp is hard to kill

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[hollow lagoon]

either way, best corse of action is lib nuke slow cindy and messup indom of t2

i think?

or out indom t2

but then u have a life stealing vesti so u might have some life after indom

[fathom rock]

This time with Rosa and all the good stuff avail

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

Time to case abooz

@tropic summit I'm cp gapping my pvp

[tropic summit]

you're the whel now

[fathom rock]

But I'm f2p I just trusted the process

The actual whales in the vicinity

[swift mango]

Nah you don't trust the process enough.

[fathom rock]

You're right I keep doubting reshuffle

[swift mango]

When did this account start?

[fathom rock]

2nd anniv

[swift mango]

October 2024?

[fathom rock]

Yes but very late oct

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, could I hit retro

[swift mango]

So November 2024? Idk sound like you could trust the process more.

[fathom rock]

I can by actually hitting these guys on deficit

[swift mango]

You could hit c3 easy

[fathom rock]

Doing it rn

They have p1 cind and a scar comp ez

Long time no see ace

[tropic summit]

those 2 are a little bif off your strike zone

[fathom rock]

Just a Lil bit

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Wow the cs merchant himself

[unique wagon]

Time to mod abooz

[fathom rock]

Maybe... Maybe I can finally hit jwoz in rookie

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-your-best-anime

[swift mango]

Hit him

[fathom rock]

Wow a su*cide

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-you-can-you-can-do-it-gif-15313022

[fathom rock]

Is 45% deficit pvping doable

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dream-shia-labeouf-motivation-gif-12350597

[fathom rock]

If I get stable pos on ch3 I'll start experimenting

[swift mango]

Just go to sleep

[swift mango]

I mean he only needs to find their addresses for them to be in his strike zone.

[fast jetty]

is this PVP comp good as a default? Can I squeeze in liberto?

[swift mango]

Replace Anis with Libby. Vesti p2

[fast jetty]

they all want jackal rumami or noah moran

cant save SP arena, system error 💀 .

#pvp-arena message I copied this

[tropic summit]

scarlet is a bit out of meta, the other 2 teams are sorta fine

i suggest you change 3rd team archetype to nayuta one

[fast jetty]

yeah i wonder what team can i run for the 3rd team

[fast jetty]

hmmm why is mine 2.5RL instead of 2RL

[tropic summit]

change to this

[gritty ridge]

Potentially

[tropic summit]

add CS% to vestiTU (5% is enough)

[fast jetty]

I think my vest should have CS

[tropic summit]

in T3 to make it siren resistant in p1, give quantum to trina and laplaceT

ideally also have both on 11%CS and helmT on 8%CS

[fast jetty]

yay 11% CS

eh my helm is 0% CS TF

😢 which one do i reroll first

[gritty ridge]

Why is helmT 8%? Shouldn't she be 11 cuz shes sr

[tropic summit]

http://nikke.top/

[gritty ridge]

I only kinda trust top im ngl

[unique wagon]

• Love yourself, because noone will truly love you over everything.

[gritty ridge]

They have so many units messed up

[tropic summit]

[unique wagon]

I'm not sure if that's true.

[gritty ridge]

Pascal and vesti off the top of my head

[unique wagon]

More like... "Love yourself, because you don't know if anyone truly loves you over everything."

[swift mango]

Not even n Prydwen

[unique wagon]

Huh

[tropic summit]

nice try kise, now back to the prydwen cave with you

don't escape from your responsabilities

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna need you to fix this at the earliest opportunity

[fast jetty]

system error

cannot change my pvp team AHHHH

[winter kraken]

wait just noticed treasuring centi to tcenti on prydwen makes it sound like a catastrophic mistake, is it actually that bad? if so im just quitting all together perfect excuse to save my mental

[gritty ridge]

Phase 1 is fine

[swift mango]

I got her to p2 so do the guy who created nikke deck. It's bricked for SpA but it's fine

[winter kraken]

yeah im p2

[hollow lagoon]

The pieces with ammo ofc

[tropic summit]

it's bricked at phase 2, but not the end of the world

fortunately we've a ton of batteries now, if this happened in 2025 woulda been a different story

[winter kraken]

T_T

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-6

at least you got a cool wallpaper, look at bright side of things

[swift mango]

You could exploit it for CA.

🤏

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Actually, the gauntlet. It only has 1 good line.

[fast jetty]

my internet 💀

is it still worth it to reroll gear for trina/laplaceT as they are not as good as before?

[swift mango]

LapT like HelmT need at least 5% cs

I also haven't reroll my LapT yet. She is still mid. Like most of my nikke. I just don't have the rock to reroll anyway.

[fast jetty]

💀 i gues this is enough gaming for the day

yeah i haven't even really reroll nayuta and liberto and friends

[glad meteor]

Rocks

[tropic summit]

where

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/mitski-miyawaki-mitski-nobody-be-the-cowboy-magnifying-glass-gif-13023187

[fast jetty]

do i use vesti team or snow white team in regular arena?

[tropic summit]

regular as in rookie? you use both

[fast jetty]

yeah rookie

this team then
Moran Noah Helm SWHA VestiTU (2RL)

[tropic summit]

that's actually weaker than using SWHA or vestiTU as main B3

[fast jetty]

hm, then how do i use both

[tropic summit]

triple threat teams add difficulty

linked units are assumed vestiTU and SWHA

if you wanna take the glass cannon route there's this

[fast jetty]

well my helm is very high atk and my snow white is very new, not enough attack to be linked

[tropic summit]

that's fine too

p1 and p2 are sacc'able, if SWHA indom or vestiTU indom both are fine

the point is to mitigate rosanna there

[glad meteor]

You see in that pic above

[strange linden]

So I just switched biscuit with DrakeT on SWHA team and now the guy that used to beat me can't do it anymore
I guess he did cheesed it with Rosanna and can't kill my DrakeT somehow so I get a FB

[tropic summit]

T1

• jackal blanc swha biscuit ada/laplaceT/lib (SWHA linked, lowest HP in the link, biscuit optional if blanc p4)

T3

• noah noise biscuit vestiTU helmT

there's other options to solve these in case

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-anime-1

[strange linden]

I don't think it'll last though, attacking every day and he'll breach my defense

[tropic summit]

T1 lose
T2 you're using important units for a very bad team
T3 non lethal on HelmT and RH, might still win but opponent will benefit from lifesteal and stalling, i wouldn't run this

[oak smelt]

Is this a bug? Vesti missiles goes off and the game round just ended abruptly in favor of the opponent even though i have more % left

[glad meteor]

Bay cover dead

[tropic summit]

linking your entire team against an overflow tier nuke on 2 buffs... ouch

[glad meteor]

And you’re team gets cooked by helm

[tropic summit]

your team got nuked on overflow it seems

[oak smelt]

Ah

Weird, i thought bay cover prevents that

[glad meteor]

Need to time it

[tropic summit]

bay cover is 0, you won't prevent dmg

[oak smelt]

That scarlet is dead though

[tropic summit]

until cover exists you deny dmg and overflow, once cover is blown you start sharing

[tropic summit]

helmT nuke on 2 buffs

[glad meteor]

You’re too fast. So she lost cover and shared the dmg to death

[placid bloom]

Helm nuke with ele on Vesti 5 link

[glad meteor]

Rh buffed nikkes destroy cover with autos.

[tropic summit]

overflow went stonks

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

Tenty

[glad meteor]

Oi horn|

[tropic summit]

post your first 4 lines of your box so i get a clue what you can run

[hollow lagoon]

idk is it?

[hollow lagoon]

holy shit redhood boosted helm

[tropic summit]

ye that nuke was as large as it could get

on ele weak on 5 linked nikkes

helm juicy org4sm there

[hollow lagoon]

hood+blanc+helm

[oak smelt]

Yeah, was planning to use Rosa but not much point since scarlet dies so fast

[hollow lagoon]

what do u mean scar dying is good for rosa

[tropic summit]

let scarlet nuke and kite it

[oak smelt]

Yeah, but RH and HelmT will still go off right

[tropic summit]

indom scarlet B3 is easy, p1 defender with biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

cant u just like, noah it or label it

[tropic summit]

bay is fine too he just needs a biscuit

[oak smelt]

No Noah and Label but i have blanc and biscuit

[hollow lagoon]

then u can indom it

[mystic rain]

@swift mango trust da process

[tropic summit]

opponent is also on indom don't forget

[mystic rain]

also now im cooked

[hollow lagoon]

its just scar indom, stuck on p1 blanc prob

[oak smelt]

Yeah, i died on the last matchup using SWHA indom against Scarlet indom

My indom was triggered first

[hollow lagoon]

stick a ada in ur indom

[tropic summit]

don't indom duel they suck anyway

tank it with bay and a biscuit, don't kill scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

(in bed?)

[tropic summit]

noise and moran cover different burst gen, as long as you know what you doing

[oak smelt]

So is this the comp that i should use against this scarlet comp?

[hollow lagoon]

feels similar (inbed) burst gen to me

[tropic summit]

assuming you're noahless, the next thing is bay on biscuit with sustain

stuff like this @oak smelt

moran assumed linked, team not in deficit

[oak smelt]

No Moran though, does noise works?

[tropic summit]

ye noise is also fine, ideally linked again

[glad meteor]

So i was right

[tropic summit]

if not linked you're on natural 2RL anyway

@hollow lagoon union raid day soon

[winter kraken]

wait will i get banned for simply using it in CA? or i have to do obvious malicious steps to exploit? dont explain how it works just say yes or no i can get banned for for using it at all

[tropic summit]

it's not an actual explot, it's "intended" as in it's a consequence of having treasured her, nothing to worry about on that front

[winter kraken]

also i did some tests in rookie arena, i replaced with rumani and lost similar power level, but using centi i won, she doesn't appear to be that bad?

[tropic summit]

all legit and normal

[strange linden]

truly the treasure of all time

[tropic summit]

it's only bad situationally, e.g. if the enemy team doesn't get promoted to 1RL because of her, you'll be fine

that is although very abusable when the enemy is attacking you

[winter kraken]

ah gotcha

luckily baby server, no one knows about 1rl stuff, so im fine for now

[placid bloom]

well there is other stuff

like they can change from 2RL to 2RL with better B1/2 buffer

which can be the diff between being able to swing over tankier team or not

even if they don't go for 1RL

but I think for the most part if they know what they are doing they will swing over regardless

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

i'm i bening too greedy, trying to do a triple

[gritty ridge]

I like the idea of using centi on an indom team

Ensure the other indom bursts after you

[tropic summit]

T1 lose
T2 win
T3 win

[shell hazel]

I think if we get enough clip RL where we don't really need centi anywhere specific her shield could have some niche use

but for now meh lol 😄

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit Didn't take that long for an opponent to get through my defenses 😭

[hollow lagoon]

u think they have the time for swha to land the shot?

[gritty ridge]

I mean, im not using centi or anis this CA

[tropic summit]

SWHA is indommed unless your lib misindoms on biscuit

then you could win

[hollow lagoon]

p1 blanc tho i have siren?

[glad meteor]

Their teams are pretty bad

[tropic summit]

ye if they don't have CS% it's a win

[gritty ridge]

Look at all that gen i didnt have to use

[hollow lagoon]

aint hurt to try

[tropic summit]

i'm assuming they know what they doin' but probably they don't

in that case it's a triple

[tropic summit]

probably close in synchro then, not much you can do about it, the nature of this game

keep changing up your def and rotate them around

[glad meteor]

Even with giga quantum. It can’t 2rl apparently

But moran taunt

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

ye that's a variable but eh his other 2 teams are fine

[hollow lagoon]

will find out

[glad meteor]

Ye

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit here's his defenses

[tropic summit]

pvp main, rip

[gritty ridge]

Ooh looks fun

[tropic summit]

vestiTU, ada, SWHa, noah, moran, Lappy, helmT nayuta built, their utilities are at least SR5, he knows that you know that he knows

[gritty ridge]

I cant run that

[arctic jewel]

oh boy...

[gritty ridge]

Id love to be able to run 2rl nayu

[tropic summit]

you can, you've laplaceT

[gritty ridge]

Yes. I surely have her

[tropic summit]

oh.

[arctic jewel]

btw, since I haven't went up against these teams myself, what should I use?
t1: Rosanna + Scarlet?
t2: slow Cindy?
t3: no idea...

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

T1 any slower indom or jackal blanc swha biscuit ada (biscuit is optional if you wanna blanc p4)
T2 noah noise biscuit vestiTU helmT should get you to kill SWHA then killing moran
T3 slow cindy
blanc rumani cindy biscuit siren

[north brook]

Depends mainly, sync lvl, defecit, invests how those teams work

[gritty ridge]

Any indom should beat t3 tbh

[arctic jewel]

oh, right... slow Cindy on T3 makes more sense due to Helm

[north brook]

The nayuta comp is cope though

[tropic summit]

indom is exactly what that thing counters, bye bye link at 2RL B2

[gritty ridge]

Who said anything abt link

We fancy in this house

[tropic summit]

ah the blanc biscuit variant

[warm monolith]

@unique wagon good boy

[arctic jewel]

I have higher CP with everything, I think? No idea how his offense looks like

[north brook]

It only rlly defends with high defecit obtained from running rh, helm, and some of centi, lap

[gritty ridge]

The humble rapu variant works as well

[tropic summit]

you've been through a lot...

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

real deficit slayer

[gritty ridge]

Expensive but it works

Solid in rookie

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

Finally got that

[tropic summit]

ye i know, i said that myself to Retro

[warm monolith]

Worth this

[arctic jewel]

let me cook a few teams

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith

#pvp-arena message

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/girl-anime-27

[hollow lagoon]

@warm monolith now everyone wants to play with your waify

in their parallel universe that is

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

prydwen demoting cindy, Zant: welp more for me

[warm monolith]

I mean, only my perspective is the true. She my wife

[tropic summit]

don't worry she's still situationally SSS

[hollow lagoon]

(inbed)

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Also, still building my collection (i wont share any pics in no conditions)

[gritty ridge]

Prydwen didnt mention bready. When I win CA next season with her he'll see

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[warm monolith]

I didnt select the pic to show on the album i swear

[tropic summit]

oh i know what kind of pictures lurk in there

[warm monolith]

[lethal karma]

i got dethroned halp

[warm monolith]

Damn im going through the prydwen changes and theres a lot

[gritty ridge]

That is the slowest t1 I have ever seen

What is going on there

[tropic summit]

T2 is padderoni

[hollow lagoon]

t1 t3 prob ded

[lethal karma]

i havent changed it, last i used was for against slow team and won

[warm monolith]

Thank you @unique wagon and @tropic summit for making my wife getting in the place she deserves

Ill save this pic too in my collection

[tropic summit]

i didn't do anything, she just happens to be the pseudo noah and the only alternative beside face tanking with noise/moran or anchorIM

[warm monolith]

Tbf i always tell that tBay was good and needed an tierlist upgrade

I mean, she kinda deserved?

[unique wagon]

Hmmm

[tropic summit]

i like current tierlist, it's for the most part telling some good hints

may not be perfect for all situations, but it's a good grasp

especially at least from SSS to A

(which is all newbs need to know about realistically)

[warm monolith]

Im looking over it once again(soline alt in good placement?)

[tropic summit]

soline gives your team pseudo moran until you burst

[warm monolith]

What about nero?

[tropic summit]

DR stacking

[warm monolith]

Whats dr?

[tropic summit]

damage reduction

[warm monolith]

Ohh, oke

[tropic summit]

think of her as a moran on steroids

but she needs a team around her and time to build it up

[warm monolith]

If i couldve made a change on the current tierlist id probbly make ada S to SS, feel like she is more but who am i to talk really lol

[tropic summit]

@swift mango you two should marry

[warm monolith]

W blood

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit wood dis work for @lethal karma

[lethal karma]

if only i had bay treasure

[hollow lagoon]

slap noah in there then

[lethal karma]

too risky?

[lethal karma]

noahless

[tropic summit]

T1 that's asking a lot out of bay and helmT... although SWHA maybe can get to live with lifesteal, iffy
T2 win
T3 not fully convinced vestiTU lives here, not the team i'd run, iffy

[tropic summit]

you're dead to indom here

unless you misindom rumani, considered her doll it's possible

still don't take risks and change it

[hollow lagoon]

nah single buff vesti have hell of a time trying to keel swha on helm leech with moran dr

[tropic summit]

alright if you already know then should be fine

[lethal karma]

should this be fine

[hollow lagoon]

in ca anyway

[tropic summit]

iffy T1 but has a chance
T2 win

[lethal karma]

should i switch lib with vesti?

[tropic summit]

add a B1 buffer to get nayuta lethal on 2RL B2

keep team on 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

tis a personal experience

[lethal karma]

who works best?

[tropic summit]

i dunno your cores kinda skew normality but i guess that's still data

[tropic summit]

it's your box, take a look at it

label, liter, RH

[hollow lagoon]

i'm the one lost with core 7 vesti, granted my vesti aint too good

only 3 atk and 20 ammo

[tropic summit]

hmm interesting

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit Do you think these teams will work?
t1: Jackal/Blanc/Ein/HelmT/Ada or Scarlet/Trina/Rosanna/Centi/Jackal
t2: can I use a team without Biscuit? otherwise not gonna bother
t3: Blanc/Rumani/Biscuit/Cindy/Mihara

[tropic summit]

T3 is good, T1 is kinda ehhh

[hollow lagoon]

i think its fair, to assume the comp prob works

[arctic jewel]

it's weird to replace Biscuit since she's mentioned in all teams 😛

[strange linden]

my noah's skills are 7/7/7 , is there a benefit to 10/10/10 her?

[hollow lagoon]

maybe kind of not really why would you, pvp main? skill boobk rich?

if bro has nothing better to put in 10/10/10 would help

[tropic summit]

moran/noise available?

[arctic jewel]

both yes

[tropic summit]

let's go with this

[strange linden]

at the very least, I don't want to lose my place in SpA
but yellow books are really rare indeed, if it's not a noticeable change then I won't do it

[hollow lagoon]

how threatened are you

[lethal karma]

all too risky, they all drop to 2.5RL, how about this?

[tropic summit]

dead to indom? you let them B2 without lethal and it's over

considering they need 16% feed no feed team with helmT B3 might do

[tropic summit]

jackal anchor helmt trina swha

or similar with rumani and noise

[hollow lagoon]

why not just roll my set for kek

[lethal karma]

missing helmt

[hollow lagoon]

🧱

[lethal karma]

can i slow cindy against this instead

[tropic summit]

where is that slow cindy, that's never gonna burst cindy

[lethal karma]

truly cooked

[strange linden]

one guy keep attacking me, he managed to beat some of my comps before, I changed it 2 days ago and now he can't beat it since then, but I think it will be a matter of time before he beat that one as well

[hollow lagoon]

looks like ded cindy to me

[tropic summit]

extra crispy cindy

[arctic jewel]

ok, I'll try

[lethal karma]

should i just send my blabla

[tropic summit]

wait

@arctic jewel post CP and matchup

[lethal karma]

i kept charring my cooks

[hollow lagoon]

its swha burst, i think its a wet cindy lel

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime-girl-164

[arctic jewel]

hold on

[tropic summit]

change T3 to this if it's not in deficit, i don't trust the exchange with just helmt and lappy

also i just realized but that def team is probably a team i gave not too long ago

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

oh oke we in range, swap to the 2nd team i gave you

moran rumani lib helmt noah

the other can stay as is

run this

[arctic jewel]

my Lib kinda sucks now

oh ok, wait

[tropic summit]

is she 4OL

and at least burst on lvl 4-7?

[arctic jewel]

yes

[tropic summit]

then she's fine

change to moran rumani lib helmt noah

[arctic jewel]

but barely any good OL gear

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter she's lethal on 0%atk

[glad meteor]

Sw low enough and ada has vigor?

[lethal karma]

anything else i have to test before sending it?

[tropic summit]

jackal and ada must've higher HP than SWHA

[gritty ridge]

Is she now

[tropic summit]

you can find out in shooting range

[lethal karma]

let me check shooting range rq

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

ye no DR on enemy side

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

that's not the team i gave you

[gritty ridge]

No deficit must be real nice

[tropic summit]

moran rumani lib helmt noah

@arctic jewel

#pvp-arena message

[arctic jewel]

oh shit... wrong png

[tropic summit]

ye it was for the other big boi

[tropic summit]

yep looks good, roll

record if you can i kinda wanna see the benchmark on damage on p5

[lethal karma]

jackal has 80k less hp than SWHA

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Tbf, I don't really care, I just hope merry sees that I feel better.

[swift mango]

No

[tropic summit]

you don't have helmt and your jackal isn't built, are you really @gritty ridge disciple

[lethal karma]

wait actually, vigor cube helped raised jackal

[swift mango]

Good enough. Now I have 2 buddies on this chat with a chance at champ this round. @worldly osprey

[tropic summit]

there's hope

[crystal flicker]

wdym helped

[tropic summit]

@lethal karma 5 minutes to sniperoni

[leaden canyon]

[lethal karma]

doesnt matter if biscuit has less hp right?

[tropic summit]

nah only need jackal and ada HP fixed

[mystic rain]

no chance i lose on finals

[tropic summit]

jackal blanc swha biscuit ada, biscuit in p4 doesn't take enough dmg to drop low

[lethal karma]

i shouldve gone online an hour earlier to do all this

[tropic summit]

4 minutes just do it

[lethal karma]

worked

need to use 2nd attempt now

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-9

[strange linden]

I just noticed, my Jackal and blanc only have ol gear lvl1
Is it worth upgrading their gears? 2000k credit per gear is a lot at higher levels

[tropic summit]

run same teams as the counters against whoever you aint gapped

[swift mango]

I think I will keep using this as a copy pasta. Without paying Rosy Copyright fee.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1478874388597182575/IMG_1951.png?ex=69aaa55a&is=69a953da&hm=b4d0ff325dc5ee86b38c2b8135b412a37bf4b1b178bd74c12be47a023f6e53f1&

[lethal karma]

WIN?

[tropic summit]

how do you trust the process?
yes

[tropic summit]

eeeeeeeeeeeh... yeah could work, go with it

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit Lost game 1

[tropic summit]

show record, might need to fix speed on indom then

[mystic rain]

bro thats bisc burst vs indom no way u lose that one

[arctic jewel]

shit, I'm not on phone currently

[lethal karma]

WIN, 1 MORE IM GEMMING THIS LAST MF

[tropic summit]

1 minute left

@gritty ridge the other bigboi is going ham

[swift mango]

Indom on Jackal.

[mystic rain]

if jackal gets indom u deserve to lose bro XDDD

[gritty ridge]

[undone blaze]

Any changes I can make? My unused Nikkes are lower CP than what i'm currently using. Round 1 team is a throwaway, round 2 is really fast but has kinda low cp, and round 3 is basically just high cp units.

[gritty ridge]

Last day of spa?

[lethal karma]

nope not enough time

[arctic jewel]

that it's slower right?

[crystal flicker]

[tropic summit]

well a record would help

[glad meteor]

Not today

[mystic rain]

just get more units and more cp i dont think u can afford to worry abt matchups and team building at this stage

[tropic summit]

you probably got promoted to 2RL while enemy was 2.5RL... or you ran out of ammo at the wrong time @arctic jewel

[crystal flicker]

invest on batteries

[tropic summit]

synchro 160, focus on your campaign team for now, pvp can wait and absolutely break through wall asap

[mint kite]

Looking to renew my defense teams, primarily against this guy:
#pvp-arena message

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTIwMjIxODg2MTc4MjAyNzkwMDE%3D

Current team that I just tried out yesterday:

[undone blaze]

my campaign team is basically done, maybe some levels on my OL gear, but rn focusing on OL my other T9M gear on used nikkes

[lethal karma]

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit do prefer to see a record or should I make the team slower right now instead?

(because unfortunately I didn't have time to record it before reset)

[tropic summit]

run these next, 2 meta 1 padded

[arctic jewel]

or maybe I should try go against t2?

[lethal karma]

the slow cindy team worked

[tropic summit]

hmm can try fixing T1 or can take on T2... both approaches work, if anything we know T3 works

[arctic jewel]

yeah, T3 was fine

[tropic summit]

let's take on T2 for a change, less headache to mess with speed in T1 i guess

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit let's say that his t1 is slow, should I try a Rosanna + Scarlet?

[tropic summit]

that mmast really tried her best

[tropic summit]

you could actually punish blanc p2 instead

scar vestiTU trina laplaceT jackal

oh we need jackal elsewhere tho

[lethal karma]

dw she knew its a win

[swift mango]

Hasbeen a long time

[tropic summit]

scar vestiTU trina laplaceT noise, try with that for T1, other 2 teams should be fine @arctic jewel

[placid bloom]

2 rock

[lethal karma]

1 rock day

[arctic jewel]

I got nothing to lose with t1, so

[tropic summit]

yep, might win as long as we kill blanc

that team has a good chance to kill her

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit should I use Tempering on SWHA, or is Resilience just fine?

[tropic summit]

tempering

[arctic jewel]

ugh, he's in battle...

[tropic summit]

take ur time relogging might fix the bug

[tropic summit]

pvp go0n

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit both teams worked so I won all 3, hopefully Discord is able to upload my video

[tropic summit]

yeah we should've taken this route 1st i guess, indom duels are meh

[mystic rain]

oh are u gonna build rapture cube

[arctic jewel]

it's OK, I get it, I assume that my opponent hasn't properly built his indom team?

you would assume they know what they're doing, or maybe it was his plan all along?

[tropic summit]

either that or you got unlucky timing on reload, speed and reload/fire rate is what matters in indom duels

SWHA has got more kits than vestiTU in indom duels, but if she reloads at the wrong time, ripperoni

[covert lintel]

Now you can be champion again

[tropic summit]

@swift mango built tempering for the sake of clearing zizx surely

[arctic jewel]

hmmm... is there a proper way to prevent this? I assume Resilience, but do I perhaps need more Max Ammo or?

[tropic summit]

ye cubes that increase reload speed and ammo (resil and bastion) can change indom outcomes to a degree

but then again, just don't resort to indom duels in general if possible

[arctic jewel]

in other words, either skip the indom duel entirely or use slow Cindy?

hmmm, I wonder if the Rei team that I showed yesterday could come in handy against indom?

[tropic summit]

slow cindy doesn't necessarely win indoms either, e.g. against vestiTU she can still get wiped and againt SWHA is situational on their buffing

[woven moat]

anyone in NA already asked which of these 2 will win?
its the last one i need for the win streak reward

[tropic summit]

although if you do get off a blanc on 4RL, you're very likely to win as enemy will definitely run out sooner than you

[arctic jewel]

ugh... what a headache

[tropic summit]

ye you'd need to know their CS% and their speed clearly to take a proper shoot at it, e.g. if we had the records we could see ammo and reload timing

[arctic jewel]

yeah, the file size is too big

[tropic summit]

no worries, if you won all 3 i can sort of guess what happened anyway

[high stream]

@tropic summit All solved myself since days. I think I have a really good handle now on using Blanc and Noah to my advantage to always beat at least two teams. Also have been looking at teams used in CA .. some really interesting combos. Like .. full tactical squad and its actually beating legit pvp teams. All this made me wonder ..

What is a way to beat Blanc and Noah .. without using Blanc or Noah? Cause that .. I can't figure out. I keep using my Blanc to defeat their Blanc .. and my Noah to defeat their Noah. I know that Siren can outplay Blanc based on positioning .. but none of them are that stupid.

[arctic jewel]

thank you as always, I'm just annoyed that now I have to deal with a player that's gonna pester me with taking my spot over and over again

[tropic summit]

[arctic jewel]

and yeah, it's for the 1st placement as well, he's the only one who has cracked my defenses so far

I gotta find some wacky teams that work

[tropic summit]

situationally, noah teams can be weak to indoms, or as you mentioned to stuns (siren and soda)
on rare occasions you could also bypass and kill their attackers beforehand with rosanna teams

as for blanc, it depends on positioning and their B3s
some teams can be sensible to rosanna, especially if only 2 attackers, you can opt to take them out early on

some blanc teams can be kited (indoms like ein or scarlet)
strong indom teams generally have xmaiden or ada as backup B3, making rosanna approach weaker if they still land indom on those units, at that point running a slower indom is generally safer

[high stream]

But a slower indom would be Blanc again, right?
So if you can't use Noah or Blanc to defeat either of them .. does it purely depend on your opponent making a mistake in their line-up? Does a "perfect" Blanc or Noah Team always require either Blanc, Noah or CP gap? Cause it sounds like .. there are rare occassions where u can either rush them .. or kite them. But that seems to depend on bad positioning or lack of units?

Can .. Nayuta beat them somehow? What other indom do we have?

[tropic summit]

nayuta can indeed be a blanc counter, as she lands before blanc and noah and if that nuke is lethal, bye bye link or indom targets
same applies to noah teams... if their units are lethaled by rosanna + nayuta for example, noah will offer little if all their dmg is gone

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit what also sucks is that I've decided to horde boxes, so I can't level up properly until next chapters (or worse case scenario, get past Mirror Container in Hard Mode)

[tropic summit]

keep in mind noah teams can be very different from each others

a noah + biscuit is very different from a noise + noah for example

then it depends a lot of what they're protecting or stalling with, e.g. with lifesteal or with nuke or with DPS

[arctic jewel]

honestly, if it wasn't for Noah, I would have given up on PvP a long time ago

[tropic summit]

that's fine, retain ch1-ch6 range, that's more than enough gem income

[high stream]

Hmm .. interesting. My Nayuta is pretty well built. But my Rosanna not so much. Should I invest more into Rosanna?

And yeah, I'm aware. I also looked at CA, cause I was curious how they are solving Banc/Noah matchups .. but it seems almost every single time, they use either their Blanc or their Noah against them .. or it's something really weird. One of the top 16 used a full tactical team variant to beat Noise/Noah

[arctic jewel]

next chapters will be released April right?

[tropic summit]

rosanna is a good unit to have around, can punish a lot of setups and will make your life easier, if you're done with campaign team and important teams for pve, you could build her up

She can work on def teams too

[tropic summit]

depends if they keep their usual routine, you could ask in #questions if they've some clearer info

[crystal flicker]

There's no point to hoard boxes if you can't progress campaign

[high stream]

My Missilis tower team is lacking a bit .. but god do I hate that tower.
My Campaign team is perfect .. even OLs are near perfect, RRH has perfect OLs.
What I haven't invested much into .. is Solo Raid. Cause it seems even more cost intensive than PvP. Way more Nikke that u want to have at least decently built.

I arrived at top 20 deficit in all towers now except Pilgrim.

[arctic jewel]

why? I can't get past Mirror Container regardless?

(I think I need to cheese it with Ada and Maid Mast)

I'll wait when they're built

[placid bloom]

saving box only matter if you are strong enough to pass your current wall by just waiting for daily rock to fix OL

[crystal flicker]

you know you're losing resource from passive regen if you hoard boxes

[placid bloom]

if you need to up your sync then it don't matter whether you save box or not

[lone sequoia]

unless waiting for the next milestone is better than use your boxes in the moment (hours/extra dust diff)

??

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dk-nintendo-donkey-kong-gif-23203423

[lone sequoia]

you get 2~3 extra dust per hour, how many hours a month have?

[placid bloom]

[crystal flicker]

720

[shell hazel]

there is no 100 cd/hour breakpoint anyway

it goes like 94 right to 102

[placid bloom]

2 cd/h diff over a month barely make you 10 hour ahead, that's why I got lazy on push

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[placid bloom]

10cd/h diff over 1 month is a lot more ofc

[crystal flicker]

Still a loss /hr

[lone sequoia]

the true min-max core dust or boxes depends in the next story patch and how many boxes you have, there is no reason to ouse your boxes if you know you can't reach the next milestone or the next story patch is less than 2 months...

[arctic jewel]

I just don't think that I'm able to get past the boss currently, even if I use my boxes

I'll reconsider whenever the necessary Nikkes are built

[lone sequoia]

just ignore that and try later again, if you think you can beat the stage you can use some boxes, just not all you have

[placid bloom]

well if you think you will not pass at all before next story update then you can save for ch46 cd/h increase

[lone sequoia]

some stages are more of units check than cp check... if you are not a whale

[placid bloom]

but it's not gonna be that much

[crystal flicker]

I'm currently dealing 1 dmg in hard mode

[arctic jewel]

that's the conclusion that I came

[lone sequoia]

atk/def diff, just use vesti

[arctic jewel]

but I'll try again when Ada and Maid Mast are properly built

[lone sequoia]

are you new player?

[arctic jewel]

I think I need to use RapiRH/Crown/Ein at least

[crystal flicker]

Rocks are scarce

[placid bloom]

new player cannot hoard, what reason is there to hoard for 46 normal when stuck on 32 normal

[arctic jewel]

32 Hard btw

[placid bloom]

yes ofc

[lone sequoia]

if you are still pushing normal or hard mode try to check the cp % for elite/boss stage to know if you are in range to clear, right now 20~30% is easy to clear, higher than that you need good units and for bosses depends in what boss are you fighting, some stages need a specific unit to clear or just dps/cp check, if you get moranT hard mode from chapter 32 will be easier

[placid bloom]

you can wait on daily rock, see if your line become OP enough that you can think about syncing up to clear

if they don't then you just don't open your box

[spiral onyx]

Might get hard countered in the finals but if I somehow make it though... 🤞
https://youtu.be/-mfX6WOETcg?si=C7uG24FvwHztOjyy

[placid bloom]

not too hard

[arctic jewel]

that's what I'm doing atm... I still don't understand what I'm doing wrong?

[shell hazel]

what sync are you warheart?

[arctic jewel]

currently 471

[placid bloom]

nothing wrong, this what everyone does unless they need to open box to keep up with SPA sync

[lone sequoia]

looks like 1-1 then 3 for DEF, round 3 cs check (?)

[shell hazel]

in doable range, check the clears I saw people using SW to do it as well

[placid bloom]

well 471 can clear MC yeah

[shell hazel]

SW much more built than Ada usually

[spiral onyx]

I think it's trades for T1/T2 and T3/T4 then my T5 gets hard countered cause SGs on def not atk

[arctic jewel]

let me log in to Nikke via PC

[placid bloom]

471 can even do Crown Cinderella Helm Rapi MMast I think if your Rapi fat enough, Liter if not fat enough

[lone sequoia]

wrong about what?you can use your boxes if you need few lvls, like 1~3 is fine, but if you will push lvls a lot is better to wait for the free core dust per box you get from new chapters

[spiral onyx]

There's a very very low chance my Rumani can tank 3 SGs long enough to survive and burst but I doubt it

[shell hazel]

btw try it on 30 fps the last phase comes in a bit later

[spiral onyx]

It happened earlier against an uninvested SG team

[arctic jewel]

👀

that's a thing? damn

[lone sequoia]

160k is low cp for max core units

[shell hazel]

yes, on this boss even weirder things happen if you put it on like 5 fps lol

only possible with a frame limiter set somewhere

[shell hazel]

you can't speed up frames beyond the game supported 60 (or MG would go brrrr) but you can certainly limit the frames

[placid bloom]

what's your CP with Cinderella Helm instead of Ein Ada

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit rail, do i 621 tmr for union raid

[placid bloom]

hmm feel like your CP still kinda low for your sync

maybe it's just your MMast

[arctic jewel]

it's very likely that yeah

[lone sequoia]

no moranT?

[arctic jewel]

look, I just hope that I'm not doing anything stupid here

[placid bloom]

I don't think MoranT better CP than Rapi

[shell hazel]

this is what I killed it with

[lone sequoia]

my clear was like 1.07m

[placid bloom]

your CP can be fixed with just rock, your sync is more than good enough

[arctic jewel]

and 461 too? nice!

[shell hazel]

1.057M

[placid bloom]

you have decent dupe too

so it's just your lines suck

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel do i 621 tomorrow for union raid

[hollow lagoon]

or do i try to get into the realm of the insane

[arctic jewel]

yeah, figures...
but now I know at least that I don't need to level up, thank you guys!

[shell hazel]

you could, you got the crates to do it, we're 2 months ish from the next chapters so you got time to save some more but it's less efficient than waiting

[lone sequoia]

wait... his cp is better than my cp at 481, my teams were around 920k~980k

[shell hazel]

you do need more cp I think but who is the weak link here?

[lone sequoia]

then i just played cindy hyper carry with rh as b1

[hollow lagoon]

allright you convinced me to use patience

[shell hazel]

it's not going to hugely impact your score anyway

[tropic summit]

getting zant to stockpile? mad skills @shell hazel

[hollow lagoon]

ill play this

"high deficit" game a little longer

[arctic jewel]

anyway, I'm gonna do my dailies, thanks for the help guys!

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

you're 1 sync away from 621 though 😄

surely that is worth a small efficiency loss, I wouldn't sync 641 though

621 = ✅
641 = ❌

[lone sequoia]

how old is your account?

[hollow lagoon]

i crated to 620 from 619 tuesday

[hollow lagoon]

11-14-2024

[arctic jewel]

hmmm... maybe difference with Recycling Room? 🤔

[tropic summit]

zant is omega whel

but still no korean leviathan level

[shell hazel]

if you go into the compare option in the stage we can see your cp per unit

[wind kelp]

Oooh, i think tomorrow i need a full advice on who will win the finals, MO1 or the other person. All guesses correct so far this season 😄

[arctic jewel]

I'll do that later

[lone sequoia]

no, you have more cores, i had a dupe problem during all my campaign push since day1, but your cp look good for your sync, you can still boost it more but depends on what you need to compete in sp or push campaign

[shell hazel]

shows dolls and weak cp links then

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit lol, lmao even

[lone sequoia]

day 1 player sleeping in 646 sync....

[tropic summit]

just join the majority

[gritty ridge]

Uh oh, bootymen vs cheeks

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-girl-63

[wind kelp]

Yeah that's my initial gut feeling, even if that alone doesn't always hit. Looking at the teams etc also favors MO1.

[lone sequoia]

next story update is in 1 month- 3weeks (?

[gritty ridge]

I love b3 when they b1

[swift mango]

I would get Quantum to 11 next for the slot

[tropic summit]

both are former champs iirc

[shell hazel]

actually this was what I was going to try to copy

for Ziz

[wind kelp]

Last season 4 and 32. But yeah, big hitters 😄

[lone sequoia]

mirror? or gluttony?

[hollow lagoon]

no crown? fancy af

gotta be careful with the lazer tho

but thous are marked

[lone sequoia]

reload/atk/crit rate diff

[wind kelp]

In other news, after a lucky 1 pull for E.H., how's she looking for the pvp front?

[shell hazel]

ziz

[hollow lagoon]

bad

[shell hazel]

it's weird how I have very similar dupes to that guy

[wind kelp]

A very straight to the point answer, appreciated 😄

[lone sequoia]

did you read her kit? blablabla... blablabla... 430 %atk

[tropic summit]

he's trying to copy your greatness

[swift mango]

This is p2, Rosa, complete my 5 position testing of Rosa hitting 1 atker teams. To done puzzle logic from merry piece left

[shell hazel]

other way around here lol

[tropic summit]

make a new merry post now then, for everyone

[swift mango]

Well, people now could find this in my pin if they looking hard enough

[wind kelp]

Reading? In nikke?

[tropic summit]

your pin

[shell hazel]

wait, you guys can read?!

[lone sequoia]

in a "GACHA" game

[wind kelp]

Here i thought teams were built based on voicelines.

[tropic summit]

mine are made with chatGPT

[lone sequoia]

no, they are built depending on the backshot

[wind kelp]

Working on it, takes a lot of teaching since GPT is still stuck in 2024 XD

[wind kelp]

No wonder there's no snipers in pvp.

[tropic summit]

non broken teams built via chatGPT would be amazing

[wind kelp]

Very well then! Next League season!

[lone sequoia]

1st option... smg

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

let me at em

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-紅蓮-홍련-gif-5040680170440666403

[tropic summit]

@swift mango damn this reminds me that you're not actually evil sometimes

[tropic summit]

the plot twist

[leaden canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-1748499123257475241

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14770887436103544323

[tropic summit]

my dear Kara, please tell me you've found a way to beat le zizx

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pernalonga-meme-pernalonga-no

[undone blaze]

What does the handshake icon mean on the tierlist? partner unit?

[glad meteor]

601

Or morant ph3

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/no-god-please-no

[glad meteor]

Other option is spend a million dolla on standard for c7 full team

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]