pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

all the way to champ

[swift mango]

It's also about Zant Rosa being weak and unable to kill drake. So drake got Indom instead of Cindy. And enemy team being slow and couldn't burst Cindy before Soda wipe her ass.

People vote quickly this time. Just 6 minutes in and around 7-8 already voted.

My vote increased it from 13.3% to 28%

[lunar pawn]

I'm at 14% and decreasing

[swift mango]

Ofc I won't go up

[north brook]

They all just going for loss frame fr

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit 3rl noah block 2 rl lib?

[tropic summit]

ye correct

[hollow lagoon]

welp looks like i'm dead

[gritty ridge]

Congrats

[swift mango]

Nah, I don't have much chance today.

Only lack 2

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-gif-13767303

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit currently reading moran's treasure. With skill 1 she is a 20 sec burst 1 but with skill 2 she gets more cdr for the entire battle?

[tropic summit]

yes she gets CDR, the main reason she became campaign-able

and pve-able altogether

[warm monolith]

Is it continous for the entire battle time? Cdr

[tropic summit]

the other juicy addon is the atk% buff

[swift mango]

Main reason is 20 seconds

[north brook]

Hmm even with 1.5rl from lots of feed scar burst cant be faster than decent speed nayu burst

[tropic summit]

works just like other CDR units

[warm monolith]

Damn that atk buff is good on burst

[gaunt pulsar]

note that it's pve only as it activates only when raptures appear

[warm monolith]

So she no longer needs max ammo lines cuz of her treasure?

[north brook]

Sth like moran nayu could still win that

[warm monolith]

Shift up adds atk,cdr and more to moran but when it comes to Bay she gets a healing buff that doesnt even include herself and a ONE TIME self cover rebuild? rare L shift up

At least they couldve made her 20 sec burst too

[tropic summit]

considering what they did to centi, the real question is if they even know what they're doing when it comes to pvp

[north brook]

They did fix bays kit major issues

[warm monolith]

I didnt get to read her treasure yet, is it bad?

[north brook]

Moran pve treasure is left field tho

[warm monolith]

Yes, i understand she needed heal and cover rebuild but not self heal and one time only rebuild? Cmon

[oak smelt]

I think the idea of Bay treasure is more for PVE with healing but the idea of tanking is half bake with her implementation since you don't need it most of the time.
They did it correctly with treasure Moran this time round

[tropic summit]

making moran any stronger in pvp would've been downright hilarious, it's good they took the pve approach as we needed DR on deficit badly

[warm monolith]

Im not saying her treasure is bad, actually solid. I just want her to be top/solid tier meta

[swift mango]

I'm rejecting bricking my humanity Centi Railrail.

[tropic summit]

[north brook]

Moran treasure is just what happens when they give treasures to units with fine kits

[warm monolith]

Also since im here i should announce, @tropic summit i got SR 15 moran treasure and started building label

[tropic summit]

why label? build noise

[warm monolith]

I dont want to

Label hotter

Also i have jackal and rumani

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

as long as you're sure of what you're doing

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-5958854468941694453

[umbral belfry]

ha

[gaunt pulsar]

you sure you dont have alt account to send this pictures?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/brick-by-brick-1

[placid bloom]

you better not appear on my cheer

[umbral belfry]

I hope I do

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[placid bloom]

are you invincible with her heal yet

[shell hazel]

562 sync someone is cheating!

[placid bloom]

or is the shield break not consistent

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/building-brick-wall-chengis-wang-gif-1401041618501526430

[gaunt pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933801860366348/1406948227755933756/aagiphy.gif

[shell hazel]

Rail can you make my work give me a pay rise?

[swift mango]

I lost a whooping 1k CP by replacing Centi with Trina in my SpA.

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit if i build noise can you make me participate in ca next season?

[tropic summit]

make your boss call me, i'll tell them your skills in endfield

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit how dead i'm i bois

[tropic summit]

no, too much effort

[tropic summit]

all you gotta do is believe

as rosy would say, trust the process

[hollow lagoon]

i trust the rail

if you are really rail

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

looks like

[hollow lagoon]

get the predictions right and you are rail

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

get then wrong and you are Zant

[swift mango]

Wdym

[shell hazel]

hacks

[tropic summit]

instead of dealing with pvp you opted for gapping your opponent, cuz you're weak

the ol blood would never

you must be an impostor

[hollow lagoon]

and if u dont predict

then you are blood

[swift mango]

Nah you have good chance to win.

[hollow lagoon]

t5 is dead outta gate tho

t4 i have advantage i think

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-helpertimes-gif-7600982488109548138

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kanokari-anime-fall

[swift mango]

[hollow lagoon]

since you predicted, if i win you are rail, if i lose you are zant, and everybody else is blood

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

as always vote my self

[swift mango]

1RL scarlet but it's not my team.

Fastest enemy team in the game.

[placid bloom]

1 buff Scar

[tropic summit]

Pepega Scar

[placid bloom]

can't even kill Biscuit is sad

[lone sequoia]

i lost 2-3

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

oldschool scarlet would've wiped here, another silly matchup

[swift mango]

Tbf, 1rl scarlet means she only has 1-2 stacks instead of 3 when she slashes. So scarlet also got weaken.

[tropic summit]

losing 2-3 to keripo actually remarkable

[lone sequoia]

looks like i need 24%cs bay

[tropic summit]

dafuq is 24%CS bay

[lone sequoia]

scar won against my DR comp, scar nuke between moran burst cast

[tropic summit]

oh ye typical keripo

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/greatness-this-close-verge-of-greatness-gif-14972117

[lone sequoia]

to get +25%cs in p5

[tropic summit]

his teams are so insanely invested that any normal logic is out of the window

[swift mango]

Nah he doesn't have everyone 25% cs or anyone for that matter

[tropic summit]

not everyone = 90% of his units

[lone sequoia]

can't use rapu p5 in case of SG or sniper, after 21%cs, 25%cs is the next speed for 2 normal RL in DR template

[tropic summit]

Nesso is saying all these nice numbers i'll never use ever in my lineups

imagine having the rocks to spend for that

[swift mango]

None of his units are 25% CS. Bro is less invested than a bum like @raven plover smh.

[north brook]

What comp this about

[lone sequoia]

yep, it easier to win with better teams, something that i can't because i like the pew pew DR comp

[tropic summit]

those mushrooms you took today are wild

[swift mango]

You could @spiral onyx to ask if he has any unit at 25% CS.

[tropic summit]

you gonna get blocked for spamming him

[lone sequoia]

the other problem was that my nero is lb0 and died at the same time moran burst

[tropic summit]

you reached B1 at least ye?

[lone sequoia]

yep

[tropic summit]

that's sad

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-animegirl-gif-25753882

[lone sequoia]

moran burst, nero died (s2 or nuke i have to check the video) then moran die (nuke) bay burst (skill delay) helmT die (normal attacks) then bay and rapu tank some seconds

[tropic summit]

so helmT lived

[oak hatch]

The mihara blanc slow cindy version better for beating scar but both versions are falling out of meta

[tropic summit]

lived the nuke but died between B2 and B3

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

if nero+ helm T or rapu live you should win, but those 2 just died, at least i got the info against lib from the last battle

[tropic summit]

hmm

don't think there's saving nero unless you mess with positioning and scrap stacking her stacks early on

e.g. moran p1 and nero p2 or p5

[lone sequoia]

no, only dupes and better OL

[umbral belfry]

rip

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

DR comp in main main is not good because moran and nero don't have DEF to reduce dmg from counters early

[tropic summit]

ye that's reasonable

[north brook]

This first time ive ever seen these comps wow

[lone sequoia]

fake nayuta+ rosanna+trio and DoT moran

[umbral belfry]

hey that's my union mate

[lone sequoia]

if moran comp reach full burst and moran get biscuit S2 is probably a win

[tropic summit]

your union mates all seem to love pies

[umbral belfry]

🥧

[tropic summit]

what's raven purpose in there?

[lone sequoia]

filler... probably 3 target and didn't check for burst gen

[north brook]

Ya it beat the standard vesti comp seems

[tropic summit]

so they thought she'd on xmaiden burst gen or similar

[umbral belfry]

@formal quiver

tell em I don't go here

[north brook]

Hes running wack cooks think last ca it didnt work out

[lone sequoia]

i don't know what specifict team they try to beat, but that is how the synergy of that team work, try to reach full burst and stall with moran, but there is the DoT rng problem

[swift mango]

Left I have seen before. Actually, I think @hollow lagoon used sth similar last season

Right I have also seen once I think but it's just bad team.

[tropic summit]

it's all RNG anyway, what's 1 more RNG variable at that point

[formal quiver]

its just extra dot. plus theres a lot of elec units in p1s. i have a lot of vids but its a very targetted antimeta comp which honestly isnt very good if meta isnt what its targetting

[lone sequoia]

laplace is just better for that, if build correctly, the extra dot last like 5 seconds?

[hollow lagoon]

[lone sequoia]

for 1 target (?)

[placid bloom]

I don't think you want to waste LapT speed on slow team

Raven is good enough

[lone sequoia]

you don't want to waste biscuit and moran...

[placid bloom]

well yeah

but like Biscuit Moran Mihara can clear

[swift mango]

How do I test team now if my gemmer don't hit me down? Should I just make teams to intentionally lose now?

[umbral belfry]

whale

[placid bloom]

a lot of squishy team can't beat it if Moran doesn't die

[formal quiver]

ye i've dropped it i dont think its very good anymore. but if you have a setup where u want to specifically beat scar sgs and have some chances against other comps then its alright

half the ppl in my bracket have dropped sgs so its kinda pointless for me to run

[tropic summit]

maybe you shouldn't have opened your boxes and preventing ppl from actually hitting you

[worldly osprey]

what the heck did i actually win aha? i thought i was gonna lose so i haven’t even logged in to check yet 💀

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okay-nice-good-great-gif-15624141

[swift mango]

Yes you won. Win this CA for me because I'm gonna out soon.

[restive heart]

no matter the odds

[restive heart]

[raven plover]

Im trying to get 21 cs biskit, got my 21 cs besti yesterday

[shell hazel]

your nero LB0 too? I'm going to hope I get LB2 and then later we get treasure 🙂

[swift mango]

My gemmer should beat me just fine.
But somehow he chose not to.

[tropic summit]

cuz you opened le boxes

now he's no longer in range and doesn't want to play CP tetris

[swift mango]

Nah he beat me after a open my box

He is in range

[tropic summit]

make your teams weaker maybe he gets motivated

[swift mango]

He was used to gem until he could beat me but now he's not anymore.

Weird time we have here

[upper grove]

Maybe he found inner peace

[tropic summit]

no he's probably just tired of dealing with blood's sh*t

he's a padding little betch

[upper grove]

I'd not even bother except to test if both agree

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/poop-yoo-gif-9678715

[swift mango]

He could actually open his boxes too but he chose not to.

[lone sequoia]

try to get around c3, the last time i calc stats that was the lowest "competitive" investment for some teams, you can still win with synergy, but it helps a lot against max core units and high recycling room lvls

[shell hazel]

she just only appeared for me once, and lately fallen out of meta a bit

[tropic summit]

he's playing 4D chess, waiting to min/max so that he can pad aswell

[lunar pawn]

I'm at 13.64%

[upper grove]

What's f2p sync in your bracket

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

Rail I used the free pulls + 10 extra from previous banner to pull on yvonne one, used 5k gems to get the free 10 pulls and got another Gilberta ;9

[swift mango]

He won't be lazy with Campaign if he did.

[upper grove]

What a slacker at that sync

[swift mango]

Anywhere from 562 to 200.

[upper grove]

When was acc creation date for that bracket? Just for reference

[swift mango]

FEB 28TH 2024

I was one day late or two so early on I couldn't ever chase the tower ranking until those guys quitted or stop clearing.

[upper grove]

I'm not whaling for cd but get extra cd from pull bundles and stuff + daily login resource boxes from the monthly, can probably hit 561 next week Start date Aug 21st 2024

[tropic summit]

ye i actually found a 2nd gilberta from the free pulls that expire when limited banner end

i won't pull yvonne tbh, i need rossi

[swift mango]

These 3 guys right behind me in synch.

[crystal flicker]

I behind you

[tropic summit]

I'll whip your behind

[swift mango]

I put my hope on some guy, he might just try to gem me when he hit 541.

[upper grove]

• monthly should put me to 561 whel advantage

[swift mango]

[upper grove]

Highest sync in my current bracket is 552

[tropic summit]

hope he does, we can't have you go rusty from being comfy padding ppl

[swift mango]

When did you start? Can't compare if you don't tell that info.

[tropic summit]

@swift mango he can beat zizx at 541

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Do it. Prove to.me you could beat ziz.

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-gif-19997269

[upper grove]

I won't

[lunar pawn]

how's your redpi

[umbral crown]

rapipi

[upper grove]

I could check my cp vs ziz though at 541 92/48

[lunar pawn]

12.5% cheers

I wonder if I'll go below 10%

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/gherkin-pifi-deepfake-what-are-you-waiting-for-do-it-gif-16608358330765201130

[lunar pawn]

92/48 kinda pepega but max core could carry

[crystal flicker]

Dang, everyones leaving me behind

I keep rolling SWHA but no luck smh

[upper grove]

21st Aug 2024

[shell hazel]

I had to do free 10 pulls on contract, the 5 back from AIC quota, the other 5 free ones, then +10 of my own using gems lol

so it was 40 in total with most of them being freebie ones

[swift mango]

@tropic summit see, this is the real level padding guy.

[upper grove]

I don't think I survive the nuke unless my cp is high enough by 541, has to be at least 1.59m or so

[lunar pawn]

Sudden jump in my favor

[swift mango]

Survive the nuke is the least of the problem. And lowest clear use Vesti because they don't need to worry about nuke.

[swift mango]

Now open ur box and hit 549 already.

[shell hazel]

I think we do similar on these

[lunar pawn]

Use moran + manchor just in case?

[shell hazel]

you're 2 months earlier and about 40 sync higher, I'll be close to this in 2 months time

[upper grove]

Lowest clear isn't absolute on global actually

Moran broken

[swift mango]

Lowest level then, still 561.

[placid bloom]

Crown kicked, no more shield meta

next boss gonna ignore dmg reduc

[swift mango]

Anyway, you would be similar to my CN whale in my bracket. I would try to hit you everyday because you don't build arena units.

[lunar pawn]

Problem isn't survival nowadays, it's having the DPS

[upper grove]

And I wouldn't care unless I drop out of 3k gem range

My bracket is 1 551 guy, me, rest is 511 or 480s

[shell hazel]

I feel like these 2 would be in my range

I need to buff my mihara some

[upper grove]

Sounds good ch 41 and 42 should be fire weak and your vesti is good

[placid bloom]

where Diesel

[upper grove]

I'll cope with alice rapi instead

[lunar pawn]

Alice gaming in 2026?

[swift mango]

I would only be in range at 581.

[shell hazel]

nice thing about blabla I can see my CP with what I would get at 561

[tidal lichen]

[upper grove]

I use that to get me down to 400 for atk calc with miranda

[swift mango]

I could actually be 568 now if I opened all the boxes. Idk if I could reach 581 in a month.

But after 581 I probably have to hibernate and save boxes until new campaign

[tropic summit]

no need to be in a rush, let's see people clear this with privT then can copy pasta

[swift mango]

People already cleared with Moran+Crown+RRH+HelmT+Privaty at 581.

But I don't think I have that investment

So SR15 Midhara it is

[shell hazel]

not close enough but think I'm missing some cubes on 3 units so not cp is less

Moran 309325
Rapi 337083
Mihara 248841
Anchor 290689

Total 1462675```

Mihara I need more rolls on gear

[swift mango]

I have 2atk 2ele enough to clear at 581

If not enough I would fish for more Ele later

[upper grove]

Mihara the bottle neck

[shell hazel]

yeah very much so, will need to improve her rolls some

[upper grove]

Tbf if you survive with just moranT you ditch manchor

[placid bloom]

I think at that CP it is faster to raise Diesel to funnel Rapi

[upper grove]

Xdiesel is also burst gen

[shell hazel]

xdiesel? needs a lot of work

more so than mihara for sure

[swift mango]

You need maid duo or HelmT along with Moran to survive at 561.

They used Maid duo because it's more dmg than. helmT

[shell hazel]

Mihara is 7/7/7 skills too

[upper grove]

Imo they used maid duo to survive because moran might not have been enough at that cp. If that works crown is more dps than manchor

[tropic summit]

what's the investiment needed? or the CP expected

[swift mango]

I already survived with just Moran at 561.

[upper grove]

Huh why is he using manchor instead of crown then, it's weird

Oh burst gen, right

[swift mango]

For the heal. You need to heal back after you survive a hit.

[north brook]

Manchor needed for mihara ya

Mihara needs good invest to be worth

[upper grove]

Kosmiu told me 2nd nuke kills regardless of heal and mooey told me you can avoid everything else ziz does though

[tropic summit]

@swift mango this madlad clearing with absolute, 100% legit

[swift mango]

Idk, you may try

[north brook]

Tbh its new territory for u guys a bit

[swift mango]

At 581. They already clear at 561

[north brook]

Since u can do it a bracket lower

[upper grove]

I just assume it's because of burst gen and mmast cant burst alone so no crown possible

[north brook]

At 581 its actually free

[swift mango]

I mean sure, who the hell generate burst gen in that team if not MAnchor.

[tropic summit]

561 is unit and CP specific tho

you're already yourself proof that 561 doesn't mean you automatically clear

[placid bloom]

when is Moran Takina Vesti Rapi Ada clear

[upper grove]

No siren for easy gen with mg spam hurts

[lunar pawn]

I went up again, 20% hype?

[north brook]

Need precise timing to clear balls with vesti

[upper grove]

I might try hyper carry rapi with crown rapi moran helm privaty first though

[torn obsidian]

oh wow you're in the same bracket as takiyi?

[upper grove]

Burst gen issue fixed + privaty buffs op

[placid bloom]

that is what Takina is for

[swift mango]

Well, it's depending on investment but the point stand, Absolute clear at 561 just fine

[tropic summit]

dafuq.

[lunar pawn]

He's famous?

[north brook]

I mean not sure takina lines up right

[torn obsidian]

yeah he's a famous pvp theorycrafter in cn

[tropic summit]

who has absolute invested to meet that CP requirement

[placid bloom]

Takina's own true damage is actually good

she can break MC slipper alone too

[upper grove]

Absolute simps where

[north brook]

The balls only die to vesti they are kinda tanky even then

[swift mango]

Like I said, investment dependant

[placid bloom]

rich people 4 atk 4 ele Eunhwa

[upper grove]

581 but 1.47m cp only very low dupes

[north brook]

Look at emma

[upper grove]

Damn

[north brook]

Mvp

[swift mango]

Line 1 Ele only gaming.
1 line tier 1 Crown only gaming.

[north brook]

Just go to lvl 700 and use 3 units to clear at 55% defecit

[swift mango]

Yeah, Emma no OL

[placid bloom]

you know there was already strat with Ada to run no OL because caster atk diff between T9M +5 and OL +0 is not much but CP diff is huge

[upper grove]

You won't catch me investing in absolute for ziz

[swift mango]

Yeah, but no OL absolute it is.

[shell hazel]

that isn't 0 invest emma it def has more than that

[tropic summit]

how does one do damage to those balls anyway

[upper grove]

Eunwha

[swift mango]

Skill level only

[north brook]

Can only true dmg they have like overcapped def

[placid bloom]

Emma have caster Atk buff on burst, might as well T9M +5

just don't need OL line to inflate CP

[tropic summit]

i tried running 1500k vestiTU on crown + helmT buff i don't even drop them to 90%

[swift mango]

Tier 1 hit rate only it is.

[placid bloom]

what is the point of OL, you missing like 100 Atk

but + so much CP

[north brook]

Ya u need absolute to do it

[shell hazel]

my emma has like 145K cp at 561 with no OL and no doll / cube etc, skill 4/4/4

[lunar pawn]

[swift mango]

Doesn't really matter that much.

They want low clear

[north brook]

And its like 2 rotations i think(?)

[placid bloom]

yeah so you just T9M

[tropic summit]

@upper grove @swift mango @north brook is this CP supposed to let you at least scratch the balls? cuz it doesn't

[placid bloom]

it's basically same stat minus the CP

[swift mango]

Equip the helm only.

[placid bloom]

and glove

[swift mango]

Maybe maybe not

[placid bloom]

rest naked

[upper grove]

Eunwha is the eye killer not vesti, imo

[wild hemlock]

Not even close baby

[tropic summit]

ye but it's vestiTU doing the damage on balls no?

[north brook]

Needs eunwha dmg taken and true dmg buffs

[tropic summit]

oh ok so absolute combo with vesti in mind got it

[swift mango]

Nah, open your box to hit 561 already

[placid bloom]

Eunhwa has true damage on her sniper shot

[shell hazel]

I'd love to know what min invest and CP is for it lol

if it's SR-5 and some skills/OL it's not too bad

[upper grove]

Eunwha true dmg shot hits all 4 then vesti can clean up afaik

[tropic summit]

this with midhara

[north brook]

Ya its literally made for them

[tropic summit]

around 1590k

[shell hazel]

yeah we need more CP for mihara

[north brook]

Its like ultra with rh

[swift mango]

I have Euwha but not Emma, what to do?

[tropic summit]

so first eunwha debuffs/buffs, then vesti wipes the balls?

[placid bloom]

Eunhwa definitely need 4 atk 4 ele, I think you will be short on damage if her shot isn't fat

[tropic summit]

or literally eunwha B2 does that

[north brook]

Ya eunwha is 3rd dps

[tropic summit]

ye if eunwha needs invest sayonara, midhara it is

[upper grove]

Her shot is too important because aoe true nuke dmg + debuff

[north brook]

Why emma eunwha still used in fire sr

[tropic summit]

f2p here, i only invest in actually broken non situational units or i go broke

[upper grove]

Not bother with absolute

[tropic summit]

realistically, midhara option seems the more budgetable

[lunar pawn]

wdym you don't 11% cs all your units sr15 100 ele 50 atk

[tropic summit]

best i can do is x4 atk x4 ele on broken core units

[upper grove]

Mihara option is better for everyone except absolute simps. Much better unit invested

[lunar pawn]

you make it sound like pvp isn't worth your time and resources

[north brook]

I should rlly get my rapi 4th atk some point

[swift mango]

I can't even do that

[tropic summit]

specifically, you go from having to build 3 units to having to build 1, clearly much better

[lunar pawn]

I wanna build mihara for scorpion ai

[tropic summit]

not my fault someone decided they'd build label

[swift mango]

Doesn't affect my rocks much.

[north brook]

4 ele 3 atk

[upper grove]

My mihara ate so many rocks and is still 2 atk, inagine using those rocks on 3 units instead, abysmal use of resources

[placid bloom]

Label need invest?

[north brook]

Most my dps like that tbh

[swift mango]

Not best I do it 4 Ele 2 atk

[north brook]

Theres always 1 piece that is like cdmg ele blue lines nothing 3rd thats not worth bothering rolling

[swift mango]

There is 4 AtK 3 Ele though. Scarlet, but ai prefer 1 of those Ele to be Crit dmg.

[tropic summit]

no it's just blood being crazy

[swift mango]

Just 2 atk line.

And CP pad

Not enough cp

[placid bloom]

you can buy 6 more copy of Moran

[shell hazel]

genuinely gonna buy more moran copies but can't do 6

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I have enough blue tickets for 2 more I think atm

my mihara actually pretty good rolls now I just need to swap that line 1 crit rate for atk and then reset for some better phases

I'll just keep the crit rate on the gloves

[north brook]

3 ammo already enough so thats optimal anyway

[shell hazel]

yes, I need better phases because she tanks my CP at 561 compared to other units

Moran 309325
Rapi 337083
Mihara 265253
Anchor 303483

Total 1504581```

[tropic summit]

this lives the nuke, gonna be fun slotting in the damage though

[shell hazel]

those 1.6M comps have some really good rolls I think

[swift mango]

Done.

[tropic summit]

you really should've waited, why in a rush

there might be some funny sh*t with chisato/takina/privT

[swift mango]

I do what I said I do.

[tropic summit]

you brickin' a lot today already as is

[swift mango]

That's even more expensive

[shell hazel]

I think so as well

[upper grove]

Mihara worth to invest in anyway

[shell hazel]

mihara will be generally useful

[tropic summit]

ye but he can't clear anyway, no need to rush it

[upper grove]

Ziz in ch 42 again

[shell hazel]

am always building the next thing I need

[tropic summit]

what if a broken unit comes out in the next months that powercreeps her?

[north brook]

Mihara still good for fire raids for a good while

[swift mango]

This isn't done. Need 10107 at least

[shell hazel]

mihara will be in every fire raid too I think

[upper grove]

I assume next 1% units have to be iron or electric anyway

[shell hazel]

even if we get another broken fire unit

[upper grove]

Fire is in a good state pve meta wise

[swift mango]

Next will be Fire Terminator Neon.

[north brook]

Even tho neutral now is mainly swha sbs/lib teams as best cope

[tropic summit]

trigger happy chat

[placid bloom]

elec will just get more true damage

[upper grove]

Iron true dmg pilgrim surely

[swift mango]

In your dream

[upper grove]

Fire power neon surely not fire just for the jokes

[swift mango]

They don't powercreep Collab units that fast

[placid bloom]

Scarlet 3rd alt is now true damage

[north brook]

Well anniv pilgrims will be a support + dps

Has been since cindy

[swift mango]

At least more likely than your case.

[upper grove]

Dual electric wind

[placid bloom]

and so is Rapu, iron true damage B3. Don't need heal anymore

[upper grove]

Heal by killing the enemy

[north brook]

Pilgrim vesti would be meta warping but idk if they want to make another vesti

1 is already a balance mistake

[placid bloom]

well they made SWHA, that's basically Vesti

[tropic summit]

they've already made 30-40% deficit in campaign easy with SWHA moran and vestiTU

think we're way past the mistake area already

[placid bloom]

their design is just flawed

look at Label

[tropic summit]

ye very little testing was done here

unless it was on purpose because they don't give a f anymore

[placid bloom]

next Nikke is just gonna be 90% fire reduc and water reduc

[tropic summit]

just gotta sell

[placid bloom]

[north brook]

True dmg wasnt good enough for sr but it broke everything else

[tropic summit]

the main problem of SU in nikke: lack of QoL

they've never spent enough resources there and it keeps going

it's like adding workarounds upon workarounds because fixing the root problem is too expensive

[crystal flicker]

they spend it for ai slop project

dc too

[north brook]

Label was probably meant to help noobs for pvp but meta was already passing scar soon

[placid bloom]

Label was literally just:
Manager - "Goddam I keep losing to these MF Soda Scar users, anyone have any ideas?"
Overworked office lady - "How about we just give the new Nikke a passive that doesn't require you to burst"
Manager - "You get a raise! Also we will design the new Nikke after you"

[swift mango]

Folkwang treasure when?

[tropic summit]

when you install arknight endfield and give me your UID

[swift mango]

Already install

[covert lintel]

5050 @torn obsidian 🤝

[tropic summit]

go play it then

[covert lintel]

It's rare to see the cheering confused too

[tropic summit]

it's what 1 or 2 hours after previous match? china sleeps at this hour and a lot of people give 0 f*s about CA, give them time to log in at reset to vote

[swift mango]

I wanted to stop spending rock but I needed to CP pad Midhara....

Can't make decisions. At all.

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/brick-by-brick-1

[placid bloom]

I think it is best to change, keeping seem like brick

[tropic summit]

you got no self-control at all @swift mango , a very good trait for SU's customers

[covert lintel]

When i voted, it only rose about 1% so i think they place bet already

[swift mango]

I needed to stop spending rock but I keep needing to spend rocks for Campaign at least

[tropic summit]

save rocks up to at least 50-75, then you can reroll without having to do it everyday but just in one day

you're way more focused and have more leeway if things go weird

you can also fix piss poor OLs within the same day

[swift mango]

No that def line tier 1 would haunt me in my dream. I need to roll it off now since changing attribute not working.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shrug-anime-shrug

[swift mango]

Got up to here. Last time. Zap too much forgot to play

[tropic summit]

keep going

you've 40-60 hours ahead of you

[umbral belfry]

champ when

[swift mango]

When you change out velvet and the next one out as well

[torn obsidian]

[tropic summit]

if it raised by 1% it means 100 people voted, check again hours after reset

[shell hazel]

story kind of mid anyway you can prob skip most of it and be fine 😄

[swift mango]

I can't skip the tutorial

[umbral belfry]

then rip rakuen

[swift mango]

That's why I pick female mc

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Female voice in mid tutorial is better

[covert lintel]

i won't

[swift mango]

Why's story just look like downgrade of Arknight start....

Perlica basically like amiya

Endmi woke up from years just like doctor

But not jumping into war immediately

The glasses guy take off his glasses to show another pair glasses behind it lol

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/glasses-56

[swift mango]

Yeah this memeade it into the game

[tropic summit]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fEoI8ThYPsQ?feature=share

the same, but different... but the same

[wild hemlock]

[swift mango]

Oh wait I picked Asia server, instead of EU,could I even add friend you?

[tropic summit]

nope, rip

you can be friend with your other asians

[crystal flicker]

your not asian?

[tropic summit]

no i'm from the internet

[crystal flicker]

insane

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

He from mafia country

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gangsta-nickolas-brown

[crystal flicker]

Mexico?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/bruno-bucciarati-giorno-giovanna-lick-jojos-bizarre-adventure-anime-gif-17755384

[tropic summit]

the other one

[swift mango]

This one

[crystal flicker]

pasta?

Tbh Mafia exist in every country

[swift mango]

Mafia as a word came from Italy I recall

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/lappland-texas-arknights-happy-gif-9317426044800212810

[swift mango]

Do mafia control half of your economy (

[lunar pawn]

what are the odds tvesti can trigger blanc indom on cindy before FB?

attacking a p3 cindy

[unique mountain]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2028490685293465621

Kars (@KaroshiMyriad)

"IGN has asked the U.S. Customs and Border Protection department for comment" regarding the destruction of Keripo's Tsukihime Trial Edition.

Quoting IGN (@IGN)
︀
An extraordinarily rare floppy disk — one of just 50 copies of Tsukihime Trial Edition ever produced — was allegedly destroyed coming through U.S. Customs. bit.ly/4rMgTit

**💬 8 🔁 159 ❤️ 2.0K 👁️ 78.7K **

FxTwitter · Mar 2, 2026, 3:20 PM

[lunar pawn]

I saw that post long ago, it was yours? @spiral onyx

did you record the unboxing process?

[tropic summit]

like everywhere else

just slap a different name from "Mafia" and you got every modern government

[crystal flicker]

Every Business man with side gig as Politicians

[tropic summit]

this case is exploding

you'd think we could get the same kind of exposure for things that actually are relevant

[unique mountain]

Keripo needs to go on tv and tell the public shiftup doesn't ban cheaters and they are welcome to play , especially in cn

[tropic summit]

oh this would be amazing

[shell hazel]

also give us the CN things #1353582790582734901 message

[crystal flicker]

bro

[shell hazel]

like this skin for example

[swift mango]

Playing endfield fell like playing LAD tbh

[placid bloom]

[spiral onyx]

My tweet literally only has 2 attached medias: one photo of the carnage and one video of the unboxing lol

[strong hull]

None, animated border will be never

[shell hazel]

[crystal flicker]

Animated CA border when

[lunar pawn]

Never opened it on pc so only ever saw the pic

But at least there's evidence

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

I want the animated borders and the thing I linked, which you can only see if you click my link

[crystal flicker]

mid

[lunar pawn]

What happens in those cases anyway? You gotta ask for a full refund from the seller, who will ask for a refund from the mail service, who in turn will demand an explanation to customs

To which customs will reply: succ it

[placid bloom]

Customs gives 0 shit

[lunar pawn]

Yea US customs act like gods on earth, untouchable

[swift mango]

They will give him 100 yen for the product base value.

[placid bloom]

not like they even have a number you can call or a physical location you can walk into

their workplace is like a fortress that no civilian can enter

[lunar pawn]

I thought officials were supposed to decrease mass shooting chances

[tropic summit]

with the main difference that you look at girls instead of guys

[swift mango]

There are guys in the games as well, the MC could already be a guy.

[tropic summit]

who'd pick male MC

admin-chan solid 10/10

[swift mango]

I don't think I got anything good here.

[tropic summit]

avy is good at least

[swift mango]

You could costum MC is LAD to look anything you like

[tropic summit]

not sure if you're still eligible for free 6*

we got a free 6* ticket weeks ago

[swift mango]

Yes I am

But might as well reroll for 6 stars

[shell hazel]

nah not worth it

the standards aren't going to last - just pick one

[tropic summit]

eh if you got the patience, see if you can land these at least, they'll carry you well enough

ardelia you'll be given 1 automatically, the other you can 6* ticket, avy you can just find her

[shell hazel]

well you get ardelia for free presumably still.
last rite you pick with the selector

he got avy twice there

[swift mango]

Idk, I only have selector for 6 star

[tropic summit]

ye she joins later on via a quest iirc

[shell hazel]

there is ardelia event I think it still runs

you get her and her sig weapon on it

last rite is a decent pick I think

see who you get on last 10 pull though

you should get some 6* on the beginner banner

[tropic summit]

even just avy (eletric team) alone can let you clear the whole content easily

[tidal lichen]

[swift mango]

To be frank none of the units here interested me. My as well quit.

[tropic summit]

yeah not enough hot guys here for your likes @swift mango

[swift mango]

Actually the air head Chen is pretty decent

[tropic summit]

chen is waifu material

https://klipy.com/gifs/chen-endfield-1

[tidal lichen]

real

[tropic summit]

protecc at all costs

[tidal lichen]

id marry perlica.

[glad meteor]

Endfield gen

[unique mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/mika-nagisa-blue-archive-paypal-me-blue-archive-mika-gif-9870615518050540836

[tropic summit]

be f2p, never experience issues with paypal, 10/10

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

I will most certainly lose this one right? (They should be ordered)

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit i think bro realized atking me gets him kicked down from rank 1 to rank 7 now so hes trying a different tactic

[tropic summit]

yay...

[swift mango]

Change your name to "Jenkins" right now.

[tropic summit]

rookie adventures

[marble saddle]

hey i dont seek war. dont touch me and i wont touch him

[arctic jewel]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[marble saddle]

cause im always gonna be atking near reset so 90% of the time im gonna atk him after hes done

so its smarter to be rank 2 instead of rank 7

meanwhile me SPA is a bloodfest

everyone fighting for top 4 ranks
meanwhile im chilling at rank 5
saving gems

[swift mango]

Long story short you probably lose.

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit im pulling away from pvp but I dont wanna stop investing in pvp. What do I do?

[marble saddle]

make a new account

[arctic jewel]

Figures, since I'm currently just trying to Cheer for the winner

[gritty ridge]

Hell nah

I just have a guy who checks the game every 10 minutes and has a seemingly endless supply of gems

[marble saddle]

0 Life commitments

[gritty ridge]

Its ridiculous

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

I hit him at noon? He hits back. I hit him at 4 am? He hits back

[glad meteor]

Toxic game mode

[marble saddle]

i had something similar in SPA
changed his def teams every 30 mins

[marble saddle]

wait till they make Union Vs Union PVP mode

[gritty ridge]

Im beginning to think he has a code check his screen for placement atp

[tropic summit]

think you're already in a good spot for pvp in general, you've all the core units built and ready to use

a good time as any to switch your focus to PVE or any SR team

[shell hazel]

is your blabla open to the public?

if it is then they can see your hits on blabla

[marble saddle]

Nero Treasure when?

make moran + nero team comp great again

[tropic summit]

you sure you want a unit that already can reach 99%DR be stronger?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I kind of agree with Rail though may as well use your hits if you cba or just chill in a spot where you're top 4 anyway

[marble saddle]

gotta fq testi over some way even if it prob wont affect her anyway

[shell hazel]

no point worrying about it too much, you get 2 shots to take/use or not if you don't care enough to do so

[swift mango]

Last Rite remind me of Laias in King Raid... Maybe someone decided to be copycat

[tropic summit]

well wouldn't take great effort, this game already doesn't ban cheaters... what's a little third party script/tool that doesn't get detected? hell even just a macro PC side that clicks in a certain pattern

[tropic summit]

she cute.

[shell hazel]

honestly blabla data scraping is a potential thing here if bigboi didn't prevent public access

[tropic summit]

that's possible, especially if we consider it's china involved

[shell hazel]

by default it does show your sp arena hits

[tropic summit]

a bot or two for them it's like eating breakfast

[tropic summit]

he's actually being a good wingman, regularly reminding you how stupid and senseless it is to bother

play games that respect your time and your efforts instead, my good man @gritty ridge or touch more ladies with your "training"

[gritty ridge]

Ive already told you, they touch me

[tropic summit]

under threats, ofc they've to

[gritty ridge]

Ah yes, the threat of "please stop touching my ass ma'am"

[tropic summit]

they want the snake that hides in your pants

🐍

[swift mango]

Very similar.... I just like how Laias looks more, best healer in that game. Last Rite I'm not interested...

[tropic summit]

back to LADS with you then

[swift mango]

End field design has been very mid, everyone has a kiddo face. Only worked with Chen because of her personality.

[shell hazel]

see who you get on the guarantee

[tropic summit]

that's what happens when your favourite is Crow

[swift mango]

My favorite is Sora, Label and Egg.

In this game

[swift mango]

In Arknight it's Hoshiguma, Virtuosa and maybe pepe, W or hisbicus.

I already showed you Hoshi and Virtuosa

[tropic summit]

hoshi i already knew of, virtuosa i didn't

[shell hazel]

I think we will see better designs later personally

[tropic summit]

oh and W is hot

in fact W has good chance of appearing in endfield

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/condescending-wonka-gif-847279734652357950

[glad meteor]

g0ons

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kobe-bryant-gif-15223189

[humble tiger]

FFFFFFFUUUUUU!!!

[swift mango]

She is just a genius musician whose music made thousands of people kill themselves.

[shell hazel]

and when do we get her?

[shell hazel]

which is actually what we all want tbh

[humble tiger]

@crystal flicker what was it again?!!

[tropic summit]

i don't know, but i need her surely

[tropic summit]

long dark hair, noice

[shell hazel]

can it be now?

[tropic summit]

[plucky delta]

I need help for a team that can compete against this team.

[tropic summit]

can kite this probably

noah biscuit helmT SWHA RH

[wild hemlock]

[swift mango]

Her brother is an inquisitor chasing her across countries to put her to jail.

[tropic summit]

can i be her brother

i'll jail her and get answers out of her

for justice

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

he's gonna absorb your star look out

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I would chase her to pardon her for her crimes

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/allow-approve-community-gif-4686443

[glad meteor]

Simping for evil women again

https://tenor.com/view/red-role-sukuna-jjk-stand-proud-red-roles-gif-10845959139408539546

[tropic summit]

i'm sure you can relate

[glad meteor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1273933801860366348/1395892976059678750/GwDpH5FW0AEhAqJ-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

I would never

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3

[shell hazel]

I will always do that lol

[arctic jewel]

Cute

[shell hazel]

villainess is best archetype

[glad meteor]

Arch

[tropic summit]

and you can always fix them

4 SS at a time

[lunar pawn]

Broke 20% in cheers

[lunar pawn]

5 now, actually

[swift mango]

Can you?

[arctic jewel]

I just like confident women, I wonder why I like Red Hood so much hmmm

[tropic summit]

i'll beat her brother

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/go-do-it-yes-no-go-for-it-gif-17183104

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel found another

[shell hazel]

ok then if you insist!

[jade mortar]

Hello sorry could i get some help with pvp? Not entirely sure what im doing and don't have too much investment in my units for pvp.

[arctic jewel]

Arknights collab when?

[shell hazel]

shit there is pvp chat

https://tenor.com/view/escape-im-out-gif-14042189

[glad meteor]

5 now

Misinfo rail

[tropic summit]

give up, you're in deficit on multiple teams

multiply enemy team CP for 0.846, T1 and T2 are default lost

this thing:

[glad meteor]

Someone asked for change since 5 ca teams I think

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/not-stonks-profit-down-sad-frown-arms-crossed-gif-15684535

[tropic summit]

wow... and we actually got something done about it?

[shell hazel]

it was @hollow lagoon fault

[glad meteor]

I am getting closer and closer to becoming blue

[tropic summit]

blue is good, it's red when you need to worry

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

is that supposed to stop me

fine assets

10/10 should collab with arknight

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

maybe AK can collab with itself?

[arctic jewel]

It's gonna take a while for you to do anything worthwhile in PvP

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/henya-vshojo-33

[hollow lagoon]

I got a sorta spicy one of label but mods would smite me

[tropic summit]

DM

[swift mango]

A cute cockroach only exists in fiction. Real cockroach bit me and got me a week of swollen skin.

[tropic summit]

if that cockroach looked like W, she can stay in my bed

[arctic jewel]

[tropic summit]

i've witnessed it, good lord

blood would instatly wet himself

[glad meteor]

uwu rail

[hollow lagoon]

I think Tiwas a 69% chance to be smited

[arctic jewel]

👀 👀 👀 👀

[glad meteor]

Too late. Get p|apped

[tropic summit]

[jade mortar]

Gotcha seems i should look for lower deficit teams thanks

[arctic jewel]

@hollow lagoon For research purposes, my DMs are always open

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

specifically, aim for teams you can avoid the penalty, you can check by multiplying enemy team CP for 0.846, your team needs to be above that number

if you're above that number, then you can make a team that can counter theirs

at that point burst speed and archetypes come into play

[jade mortar]

Think this might be possible?

[tropic summit]

by balancing your teams a bit, quite doable

can you share your roster so we can see if you got the tools?

[shell hazel]

oh baby 👶 commander!

[tropic summit]

and 160 wall blocked it seems

[versed mesa]

It finally happened, after over 3 months him not changing them, my opponent completely changed his SP defense teams. Help me!

[grizzled moss]

is it possible to do 2 full burst in pvp in high ranks? or is it in 1 in a billion chances for that to happen?

[jade mortar]

Indeed

[tropic summit]

depends a lot on the matchup, e.g. against nero moran you will likely get into 2 cycles

[hollow lagoon]

Use team 1 for team 3 and team 2 for team 1 prob better chances

[jade mortar]

Missing one copy of TU vesti

[arctic jewel]

My personal advice would be to enjoy the main story and other events until you've reached a higher level and built some Nikkes. As for what Nikkes you should build for PvP, you can take a look at what other people here are posting, but focus on PvE Nikkes for now

[jade mortar]

That is what i have been doing as i noticed pvp is a bit of a slog

[hollow lagoon]

How are you 741 already

[versed mesa]

Those are my opponents teams

[hollow lagoon]

They no chill it seeemmmms

[arctic jewel]

@jade mortar Building Nikkes that are good for both PvE and PvP would be a good start at least, since your resources are limited at the moment

[tropic summit]

assemble these teams (you're on the left) against the respective opponent (to the right)

we want your T2 to be gapping the enemy even just a bit, so we can remove blanc early on
T1 we just need to avoid penalty a bit

[hollow lagoon]

@arctic jewel how goes the research

[jade mortar]

Thanks I'll give it a go

[tropic summit]

no don't run them yet, we need to check CP

post the screenshot of the CP of the matchup 1st

[jade mortar]

Meant putting the teams together

[arctic jewel]

Oops, let me check

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

mirror indom with SWHA T1
noah biscuit lib helmt noise T2 or slow cindy + siren
slow cindy or ros-jackal

aim for 2 out of 3 based on your invest

[tropic summit]

ok we need to push CP on T2, swap helmt with lib

[arctic jewel]

@hollow lagoon I have come to conclusion that 2026 has given us great Nikkes 👍

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

looks like we gonna need to bench brid aswell

instead of brid put naga

[shell hazel]

except elec units cindy was last really good elec carry

[tropic summit]

bench naga and put rrh

[versed mesa]

Oh man, trying to build a team before reset got me in a panic

[north brook]

Oof

[tropic summit]

ok we gotta fix the other team now somehow

and we kinda out of cards

[hollow lagoon]

Wonder if alts will get treasure

Like Maids

[tropic summit]

@jade mortar swap liter with moran and post again

box: #pvp-arena message

[north brook]

Post attempt fr

[arctic jewel]

At least Quency got a costume... if that means anything??????

[jade mortar]

Oh mb thought i posted in the wrong chat

[north brook]

Alts could but its kinda meant to fix or buff kits for some purpose or niche usually

[hollow lagoon]

QEQ feels more like the main unit to me, actually strong easier to get

[north brook]

Tbh this how it is with most alts

[tropic summit]

hmm i think is doable, let's fix positioning now

T1

• Crown lib moran biscuit jackal (fine as is)

T2

• vestiTU SWHA liter RRH helmT

[swift mango]

Btw these are Hibiscus and Pepe.
Hibiscus is a healer that obsessed with healthy food, but her food is yuck. And that's why her chuuni little twin sister called her, her arch nemesis for keeping feeding her those food.

Pepe is a royalty alchemist, well, she is just clumsy, cute and funny.

[tropic summit]

after this fix you can run those

[north brook]

Absolute, dkw, qeq, xdiesel/brid/soline

[hollow lagoon]

One day us will make Cindy good again

[arctic jewel]

Yeah, I'm just saying that it's not impossible for the alts to get something extra, we've just haven't seen anything with Treasure items yet

[jade mortar]

Thanks for the help

[hollow lagoon]

Maid Privity treasure when

[north brook]

Alt kits are sometimes new but sometimes like treasure kits like with absolute

[hollow lagoon]

Didn I post this one already @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

ya you did, i remember this thicc lady

[jade mortar]

[hollow lagoon]

Tragic

[versed mesa]

What was the slow cindy lineup again?

[hollow lagoon]

Like Blanc biscuit Mihara rumani Cindy

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit You really are a nice guy for helping everyone you know

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-ehehe

[jade mortar]

Not quite but got a better idea on what i should be trying

[shell hazel]

secretly we're all subscribing to RailSub which is a monthly subscription service

[tropic summit]

bench liter and add anyone who has a tad more CP instead, you'll kill blanc 100%

she's alive with 1% HP

e.g. naga instead of liter should do

[arctic jewel]

Where can I secretly sign up?

[hollow lagoon]

If you lost is because u didn’t use the become tastier, coochy, woochi, boning! Spell when u send your teams, has nothing to do with @tropic summit

[shell hazel]

only || fins ||

[tropic summit]

look at blanc hp, kinda bad luck

[jade mortar]

Naga brings down the cp a bit that fine?

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

no it needs to go up, anyone else with higher CP than liter? you can swap moran and liter btw

[versed mesa]

Oh man I'm gonna run out of time arggggg

[jade mortar]

Moran is also lower cp by a bit

[shell hazel]

[jade mortar]

Do have a purple doll i could put on her to boost cp (liter) though dunno if thatd ve worth

She does get murked in campaign easy without it tho

[north brook]

U can swap liter to purp ya

[lone sequoia]

is that bad or good? i told you pilgrim had more chances to win (still, i don't like low cp fights)

[jade mortar]

I can try that was saving it for potentially siren but it might be more helpful now

[north brook]

U will get enough sr dolls

Problem is usually leveling them up

[lone sequoia]

never use SR puppet before R15, it will be a waste of mats

[jade mortar]

Nvm confused myself dont have a doll for her could do this but unsure if its worth for exchange

[jade mortar]

Liters blue doll is maxxed

[hollow lagoon]

Not at ur level

[north brook]

Tbh its fine to use sr instead of blue on low prio unit ur not maxing

[arctic jewel]

Don't do that!

[lone sequoia]

then go for SR5 (if R15)

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit How these look for you? T1 and T2, gonna try to get something for T3 too but how you saying these might fare?

[jade mortar]

Sadly dont have a SMG doll for liter got confused

[tropic summit]

very misindomable T1, T2 is fine

here's an alternative, obviously assumed not in deficit

[lone sequoia]

not really, 100~200 is not a lot if you try to get SR, but it is if you want to get SR15 and for some reason you have SR0... just get the SR5 from R15

or stop at R15... it is the same cp almost

[hollow lagoon]

Just chill and wait

[tropic summit]

doll up vestiTU if you've one available, you'll need her in pve campaign and pvp

[north brook]

Better to have sr15 meta and sr0 mid prio than r0 mid prio

[tropic summit]

that will also fix your CP for T2

[lone sequoia]

better to have SR5 or R15 and SR15 meta

you get more from puppet stats instead of the dmg reduction from SR0 that in most cases, is not worth

[north brook]

Not enough mats for that

[tropic summit]

never ever go SR0, R15 into SR5 or just keep R15 instead

SR0 you stabbing yourself in the foot

[lone sequoia]

unless you are rosy, never SR0

[jade mortar]

Will do when i get a purple one currently have none for her type

[versed mesa]

Maiden and Ada so low on my end that will be 200k in deficit

[hollow lagoon]

U can go sr0 for non scaling buffing raid/tower only units like liter i guess

[lone sequoia]

tempering and done, is not like from lv15- to resi 15 change her dmg

[tropic summit]

multiply for 0.846 and find out the minimun you need, ada is flex put anyone that keeps that team 2.5RL with 85-90% to 2RL

that unit needs to be linked and more HP than SWHA

avoid wind code flex

[north brook]

Considering u get surplus sr dolls and can crunch up the r dolls surplus to minmax more meta

[swift mango]

Getting SR0 to sr5, you lose like 20 blue on average comparing to r0 to r15 anyway. It's not end of the world to just use sr0.

[shell hazel]

eventually you get surplus SR dolls but I feel like it took about a year for this lol

[tropic summit]

we're not seriously suggesting to go non optimized ways of upgrading now are we

[lone sequoia]

it is when you lose all the mats until SR3

[tropic summit]

exactly

[north brook]

U do it on units you are specifically not going to sr15

[jade mortar]

Little closer 😞

[tropic summit]

still costs less to go R15 into SR5

[north brook]

Why would u sr15 liter

[swift mango]

Sometime you need the DR asap and doesn't need Sr15. Just do it. If they released treasure for the unit you only lose 20 blue anyway.

[north brook]

Just sr0

[tropic summit]

just SR5 for less material spents

[north brook]

Sr0 is free

[tropic summit]

it's just more budget friendly

[lone sequoia]

or just stop at R15, no reason to go SR if you don't want the stats and dmg reduction is the same with tempering

[tropic summit]

sr0 is a waste

[north brook]

Sr5 can be mats into better units

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

[tropic summit]

this guy keeps suggesting dumb things today

[north brook]

Why would u sr5 liter

[swift mango]

@umbral crown show him

[tropic summit]

just don't tell people to waste materials

[lone sequoia]

for what mode you need SR0?

[north brook]

Why waste a base r doll u can crunch for more xp

[shell hazel]

I SR-5 liter, not SR-15 though

[north brook]

Sr0 is free

[shell hazel]

I did use her in various bosses though

[lone sequoia]

SR15 is free if the mats are free, no?

[shell hazel]

more recently I SR-0 some units

[swift mango]

Sr0 is much better than r0. If you don't upgrade anyway, just go for sr0 instead of stuck your unit with r0

[shell hazel]

label was SR-0

[north brook]

This the point

[shell hazel]

she's not a core dps so I felt OK SR-0 her

[lone sequoia]

yep, but... what unit want* SR0 if the only thing you get is the dmg reduction and a bit of stats, if you don't plan to go for SR15 does the unit need the stats or dmg reduction? or even the item?

[north brook]

Dont bother minmaxing doll xp on units that dont need it

[tropic summit]

ye go ahead and keep telling people how to brick themselves

wild times

[swift mango]

Yes, my sr0 Midhara got me CA champ 2 times.

[shell hazel]

helps on survival sometimes yes

[lone sequoia]

no doll is better, more free than "free"

[shell hazel]

but I'd only do it for units I never really intend to SR-15

[swift mango]

Nah, I need sr0 on Liter so she can survive

[north brook]

Again theres literally sr surplus lol

And ya it makes living sr lot easier no heal comps

[lone sequoia]

not enough with tempering? still for what mode?

[swift mango]

Yeah, you never lack SR0 for SMG at least.

[swift mango]

SR and UR, with your high research maybe you feel like you don't need it. But I was synch 400 below.

[lone sequoia]

wait, there is a lot of SR mats and puppets right now, i don't know how many items you waste but i have like all my pvp and solo raid dps with SR15

or are you trading the R puppets for mats/sr

[swift mango]

Lucky bastards don't count.

[lone sequoia]

not when you have 3 times SR14 and SR12 on average

[north brook]

U can trade the excess u save for bit more xp on new meta

[swift mango]

It's normal. You just don't build much units.

[north brook]

Obv meta u minmax all the way its not that complex

[swift mango]

SR only need DPS to be Sr15. Arena required every single unit to be Sr15.

[lone sequoia]

meta as ssrapi or meta as velvet or takina?

[worldly osprey]

i thought i’d lose tomorrow just my bad luck that i’m on atk. my sg has to fight their nyt, and their sg team meet my moran + noah. but since i’m on atk, i’ll probably lose to those 2 teams

[north brook]

It depends if u intend to sr15 unit, if answer no like velvet dont need to try to minmax

[swift mango]

Basically I rather just SR0 and not waste mats for SR5 "in case" the units get treasure. If they get a treasure I fine with wasting an extra 20 blue just for that unit alone.

[versed mesa]

Welp it was fun.

[shell hazel]

yeah I did that more lately

[lone sequoia]

extra 20? good luck sir

[shell hazel]

but I try to do so carefully

[versed mesa]

T2 won, the other 2 lost. I indomed jackal on t1...

[tropic summit]

fix your jackal HP, you know indom conditions

[swift mango]

For the record, I usually used less mats to sr0 to sr5 than r0 to r15.

[lone sequoia]

luck diffed

[north brook]

Is true only need 1 jackpot for sr5 from sr0

[swift mango]

When I needed like 400 blue to r15 and only 200 for sr0 to sr5.

[lone sequoia]

worst case against better than average, not a good comparison

[tropic summit]

nice statistic bias

[shell hazel]

it's not the right move at all if you intend to SR-15 but if you don't I think it's ok

[swift mango]

It working that way for me and @umbral crown as well.

[tropic summit]

"i didn't die from eating expired food, so it probably doesn't kill anyone else"

sure suddenly doesn't seem nice anymore eh

[versed mesa]

I don't though, with Jackal atleast...

[swift mango]

Yes, if I wanted to Sr15 from the start, I would use r0. But I don't r0-sr5 now just for "just in case"

[tropic summit]

jackal and linked unit must've more HP than your indom target

e.g.

jackal linked with helmt and SWHA, helmT and jackal must've more HP than SWHA

all of this info can be confirmed by running the team in shooting range

[shell hazel]

I know it can be expensive to SR-0 => SR-5 so it's just a weighing up of risks