pvp-arena

[tulip quest]

Assuming xbrid high cp

[hollow lagoon]

Skill issue then

[tulip quest]

cause no one wanna hyper build xbrid

[glad meteor]

So far mihara team doing more. But will just see when i get closer

[hollow lagoon]

My union fire raid

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-me-i-am-the-kraken-the-kraken-will-eat-you-be-careful-gif-16429975

[hollow lagoon]

What if rapi b1

Crown Mihara

HelmT

Anchor

[tulip quest]

my homies raiding kraken btw

[hollow lagoon]

Btw with anchor, you burst anchor on 4th burst

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

did you do the biscuit team?

[umbral crown]

but now morant is a thing

[leaden canyon]

If you did it jackal rrh helmT blanc SWHA then it burst too quickly for the duel

but also moran noah biscuit vesti SWHA or noah noise biscuit vesti SWHA should kill

[gaunt bane]

Nah I didnt, im not cp gapped and biscuit also not OL'ed

[leaden canyon]

ah as long as you slow the team down with RRH you should be fine

Because with all that burstgen you blanc burst before his blanc

[gaunt bane]

I see so the point is still to try and slow down

Oh well, Ill try tmr or something, out of try for today

[leaden canyon]

yeah, you dont want to too be too slow though, like if its 3RL then you will be too slow

[gaunt bane]

it was still 2RL with RRH tho

[leaden canyon]

yeah with but with jackal rrh helmT blanc SWHA, thats what you used right?

[gaunt bane]

yep

[leaden canyon]

yeah I am looking at frame data and thats too quick

[gaunt bane]

by right I should be feeding him more with rrh

[leaden canyon]

I'm assuming you also have at least 11% cs on helm?

Because that will make a difference in being too fast with that team

[gaunt bane]

oh yea.. that's true my Helm does have 15

[wild drum]

@tropic summit what up homie i got new units all these in this video PLUS siren

i need SPA team i forgot to say

[leaden canyon]

Assuming he doesn't have cs on his team yeah too fast, you are the blue bar on the bottom right and the second dot on that line is your b2, the red bar above it is the enemy and his blanc is after yours

so your blanc indom stopped before his

with rrh you either want it same speed or slightly slower

[river dune]

Can I take this one?

[versed mesa]

Is this an old screenshot, or is there a new site?

[leaden canyon]

No I just took the screen shot

its the same site

[versed mesa]

nikke top? Getting an error on my end

[gaunt bane]

I was also looking at nikke.top earlier but my result is different than yours, weird

[leaden canyon]

yeah depending on your browser you can still proceed, its just their security credentials expired

[versed mesa]

Ahh I see, got through now

[leaden canyon]

you have not linked jackal with anybody on either team

[versed mesa]

Thank heavens. This is the only tool I can make any sense of was so sure my pvp days are over lol

[gaunt bane]

oh, didnt realize I have to do that manually

[leaden canyon]

its the middle icon on jackal and then you click two other units with that icon that are linked

[gaunt bane]

yep did just that

ye this is likely what happened

next best thing is probably to swap out SWHA for lib

[leaden canyon]

Will lib be linked?

[crystal flicker]

Lib? with Blanc? really?

[gaunt bane]

she should be linked, I run vestih HelmT Lib on SPA and HelmT is always left out

[leaden canyon]

Alright then just place her in SWHA spot and if Nikketop tells you that you are slow enough then you should be fine

[gaunt bane]

16F, seems dangerously close if I'm missing any calculation lol

[leaden canyon]

you are still too fast

[gaunt bane]

I'd love to try a moran team once I get her built

[leaden canyon]

can do noise

but your biscuit is not overloaded so RIP

Unless you can still run her without being put into deficit lol

[gaunt bane]

yea pretty hard, the guy just reach 361 breakpoint so even my vesti team is cp gapped now

RRH Lib SWHA instead, 20F diff

[leaden canyon]

actually you should be fine

I looked at it wrong while playing a game

Lib should be fine

As long as your RRH doesn't reload before his indom ends

[gaunt bane]

tbh this whole ordeal is for little gain, since beating him or not I'd still get the same rookie reward
but its learning/experimental space

[silent torrent]

what is that website?

[gaunt bane]

http://nikke.top/

[silent torrent]

thanks

[jagged mesa]

are there any 2rl nukes that moran nero can tank through

im told shes nero is dropping off a bit but im still curious to build her

[leaden canyon]

Not really, when buffed enough any nuker can deal with that

[jagged mesa]

:C

[leaden canyon]

Like it can survive unbuffed vesti and this is assuming you are healing with helm too

But all somebody has to do is just buff with blanc, ada, or hood

I like moran anchor more

[placid bloom]

it's time for BayT

[jagged mesa]

speak for yourself, i have noah 😌

[placid bloom]

3 defensive tool > 2 defensive tool

how you gonna get out of CA groups like this

[jagged mesa]

im not

[crystal flicker]

Nero herself gonna survive any nuke

[silent torrent]

I know it's a futile question since I will 100% lose 5 out of 5 but I still thought it'd be nice to try and at least make some teams for CA, I managed to in for the first time so its more of a novelty thing than anything else but I'd still be happy if someone could help me build some basic teams. I'd consider every unit below jackal besides maybe moran and label to be unbuilt so there is not much to work with

[onyx scaffold]

@lusty gull did u watch this fight? how did right team win? i think it is slow

[crystal flicker]

Jackal SWHA Blanc GEN Flex
Nayuta VesT RH GEN GEN
Moran Noah Lib Rapu HelmT
SG Rosa
Cindy Mihara Bisc Flex Rumani

[crystal flicker]

or this for p5

[silent torrent]

I think I may try that, thanks

[oak hatch]

Scar on only Trina buff usually doesn’t do enough dmg vs noise Noah team, I lost scar soda vs noise Noah cindy last ca because of that

[crystal flicker]

Unless they put Rapu on P1

No one stun Noise, they got HP+, Noah reduce dmg

[forest zodiac]

could someone please help me deal with this guy?
t1 lost, enemy team has some CS potentially resulting around 2.2RL
t3 wins

[north brook]

Isnt that t2 slightly slow(?)

Guess its like triple quantum

Id try to break t2 with vesti indom using ada buff

[quick lake]

yeah, that team should work

[cinder siren]

Can anyone help me build teams for spa?

[forest zodiac]

something like
jackal blanc vestitu helmt ada?

[north brook]

Slower version fine for that team

[forest zodiac]

ah jackal busy

[north brook]

Ironic problem with swole burst is her hit timing slows down a lot

[forest zodiac]

ah crap lol, I just woke up can't think straight

I have indom blanc in t3

[north brook]

Werent u running noah for scar

[forest zodiac]

my brain is fried lol

yes

should be fine?

[quick lake]

replace biscuit with someone else like a clipSG Drake or BSoda

[north brook]

Mbe check nikke top, 2.5rl prob ok

[forest zodiac]

i was just suggested to slow it down from 2.5?

[forest zodiac]

ok

[north brook]

Was helm on it still 2.5?

[forest zodiac]

yeah

with drake its still 3rl

[north brook]

No helm makes it 2rl ya i was right

[forest zodiac]

so nikkedeck math is a bit off?

do I go for drake?

[north brook]

Depends if ur vesti has cs

[forest zodiac]

4,92 1 liner

so 5% rounded

not enough?

[north brook]

No too much with jack feed and ya even if vesti only hits once helm makes it 2rl

Can use lapT version

[forest zodiac]

I don't have lapt

laplace evades me

[north brook]

Xmaiden, lib, etc gen or so

[wild drum]

did rail ever wake up

[forest zodiac]

so like this?

[north brook]

Ya

[forest zodiac]

ada got indom

I don't understand why

vesti was almost dead

bruuuuuuuh

[oak hatch]

2lb vesti most likely has more hp than ada, need to throw vigor on Ada

[forest zodiac]

she had vigor

I guess I should've used temperin instead

just look at this

[oak hatch]

Nah wouldn’t work, they share dmg through jackal so Ada will need to have higher hp

[forest zodiac]

so ditching jackal would be bnetter idea?

[oak hatch]

Oh it makes sense, ur vesti is max dolled and ada isn’t

[forest zodiac]

crap

okay noted

[oak hatch]

No, check for any other decent burst gen units and see if they have higher hp

[forest zodiac]

but ada is here for buffing vesti

to get thru moran

[north brook]

Ur ada probably just has less base hp, use vigor

[forest zodiac]

she had vigor lvl 6

[oak hatch]

Oh I thought u were trying to get through the faster vesti indom

[forest zodiac]

I was attempting this "Id try to break t2 with vesti indom using ada buff" as enfin suggested

which seemed logical to me

shame I screwed up

[oak hatch]

Maybe u could try red hood or something since ur ada too low hp for more vesti dmg

[north brook]

With lap version ud just have lap linked

[forest zodiac]

but I don't have lap

[north brook]

Mbe u need to lower vesti hp? Use worse cube

[forest zodiac]

I think she had tempering on her

maybe because of that

[north brook]

How much lower hp is ur ada

And ya that changes it too

[forest zodiac]

sec

I was just scared that vesti would die before burst would go off

[north brook]

LapT on her own not that much pressure

Even on minor defecit

[forest zodiac]

4672428 vesti, ye she had tempering 6
4344642 ada, vigor 6

[north brook]

Ya its not that much seems tempering barely made adas hp lower

[forest zodiac]

crap

[north brook]

Could just go resil vesti

[forest zodiac]

okay thanks, maybe somehow I'll get another chance tomorrow

but wouldn't resil increase it even more?

[oak hatch]

Vigor won’t cut it for this, Ada still 12k less hp than vesti with hp buff

[forest zodiac]

so I have to sr15

[oak hatch]

U could always upgrade body gear a couple times

[north brook]

Prob cheapest would be swapping xmaiden then to an attacker with ok gen like drake

[oak hatch]

Unless u have that maxed already

[pure moss]

A scammer/bot thought I was a shrimp

Joined the server 2 days ago

[north brook]

Not bad idea to invest ada more though

[forest zodiac]

but I asked about drake and told to change her away to lapt and then to xmaiden

I'm confused

anyways ada needs some hp still that I'll work on (if I'll see that guy again)

[north brook]

Ah just its worse dmg, but somewhat assumed u could get right indom

But ur ada slightly too frail

Think with vigor 7 ud have it already

[lusty gull]

no but usually noise burst is enough

[hexed jacinth]

is swha or cindy better for rookie?

[humble tiger]

SWHA 100%.

No one runs Cindy in rookie. You're just asking to be bullied by Label owners.

[wild hemlock]

I just counted your matches, you went 6-3 with Absolute and won CA. Was it really that bad

Is 3 loses like too many?

[spiral onyx]

Is not about the number of loses but the number of potential losses

Only the last 3-4 rounds actually matter

[wild hemlock]

Yeah I mean your last 4 matches you went 3-1

In fact 2 of your loses were group stage

[spiral onyx]

And when I did the mental sim against the teams used by those top 8, Absolute lost a lot

More than the other teams at least

A lot of meta teams have been "Absolute safe" just like they've become "SG safe" or "Siren safe"

Eventually it'll just become yet another checklist in team building

[wild hemlock]

Hmm yeah I can see it. Maybe also depends on the bracket I imagine higher up is more absolute safe than lower

[spiral onyx]

But maybe I'm just talking about a future which we haven't reached yet

[wild hemlock]

Maybe I'm just haunted by the ghost of Nana that obliterated me

[spiral onyx]

I mean, that's what caused me to try it out in the first place lol

I was caught off guard because none of my teams were "Absolute-safe"

Just like how Siren caught a lot of players off guard before

But later became a non issue once people built with her in mind

Like even today, losing against an attack SG team is a "shame on you" moment

[spiral onyx]

Another thing I do is test against my own comps because historically a lot of people tend to copy my comps. And among the 5 teams I ran last CA, Absolute had the worst overall atk/def win rate:

[wild hemlock]

I would never steal your comp
|| Except that's exactly what I'm debating at this very moment ||

[spiral onyx]

Not saying it's bad of course. There have been cooks that look viable but actually end up with 0% win rate against my other cooks. It doesn't mean the cook is bad, just that the other cooks are better.

Matchup RNG is still the biggest decider on matchup wins but at least within that RNG, you can bias your odds a bit by picking the top 5 teams with the highest win rates

Mihara comp for example was sitting at 17%/17%. It's not a bad comp, just the newer ones are better and tend to beat it now.

[heady peak]

my actual pain.... because I HAVE NO IDEA EVER WHAT TO DO WITH EMILIA AND VESTI EVER... ; ;

so I just absolute and get shit on every time with the occasional win

[silent torrent]

Ive seen people run an absolute team comp sometimes thats like mast absolute squad and rossana, what is the investment that mast, emma and eunhwa want

[leaden canyon]

I need to update my CA and I have no idea what any of the new comps are

[humble tiger]

[spiral onyx]

I literally upload every one of my CA fights to YouTube and I'm in the most competitive CA group in NA. There's also plenty of others in other CA groups who do the same. Information is freely available, you just have to be willing to look

[leaden canyon]

Yeah but copying yours just randomly is never a good idea

You usually have things going on with some teams that are not obvious

[spiral onyx]

You're right, I wouldn't copy my teams, but you get to see the various other teams that other players have made and how well they perform

League x3 + top 64 + top 32 + top 16 + top 8 + top 4 + finals. So up to 10 CA setups each season including mine

That's still up to 45 other teams you can reference as starting points for cooking

We're on season 24 now, so that's probably around 200 setups shown just from my YouTube.

Or almost 1000 teams

[leaden canyon]

well yeah but lots of the old ones dont pan out well anymore, like I know some of the combinations ever sense SWHA but I honestly dont know which to stick with and if I'm just getting bad rng

[spiral onyx]

That's where testing comes in. Or visualization and playing around with Nikke.top

Sometimes you don't even need to test to know the likely result of a matchup

For example, which team would win here? Both are the same speed and both B3s are strong enough to 1 shot but Scarlet is an instant nuke while Liberalio is a delayed nuke. Easy win for Scarlet

[leaden canyon]

well yeah I do this for SPA but cant really do it well enough for CA when you're up against anything and everything, can only do as good defense as you can and my CA is cursed

[spiral onyx]

Here's another example. Bottom Scarlet is faster but top Blanc still goes before bottom Scarlet, so top will probably win

[leaden canyon]

yep I know about that

[spiral onyx]

Swap Helm with Centi and suddenly it's a lot slower and Blanc will probably not burst in time. It's now a win for bottom

You can do mental simulations like this using all the known meta team comps and build your own test matrix without ever actually trying them out

[leaden canyon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-meme-told-s3tpyHuSSr98A

I have to do that in SPA because I'm in deficit against my opponent

[spiral onyx]

This is actually how I've been making all my comps Vesti safe. And why Im moving my Trina to P4 instead of P3 like I had last season. I'm glad I wasn't punished hard for that mistake

[leaden canyon]

I cant imagine having that CS on vesti, she hits scar while trina invul is on her right?

[spiral onyx]

Only the first rocket

[leaden canyon]

Not terrible then

I hope we can get more burstgen units so I can run moran anchor helmT trina SWHA in CA

I love that team

[spiral onyx]

It's a tradeoff. You can say "oh but Scarlet survives one more hit" but I would say "killing Noise with rocket 3 or 2 before she gets to burst" is far more important

People underestimate the value of cs even for VestiT in an Absolute squad

[leaden canyon]

yeah she would shred in that

if you actually gave up ele rolls and went 4 cs, 4 attack and 4 crit damage with absolute she would melt

[swift mango]

The enemy didn't use Jackal. Libby able to survive all the assault to be Indom is just his Vesti suck

If it was my Nikke or Yours, even Blanc would be killed before she land her indom

[humble tiger]

[swift mango]

not getting her ammo mean you give up using her in anything but Absolute.

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit Finally

[restive heart]

[marble saddle]

Whale is back on the menu bois

[restive heart]

whale

[restive heart]

wow sr15 biscuit

wish i can sr15 her

[marble saddle]

i dont have sr15 centi nayuta liber and a few more i forgot so fair is fair

[restive heart]

[marble saddle]

Rumani Ada Xmaiden

those were the 3 i forgot

[restive heart]

i have them at sr5

i have few sr15

cuz my luck is so poopoo

[marble saddle]

same

[restive heart]

speaking of poopoo luck….

[marble saddle]

these are the current projects im working on

[restive heart]

imma do phase 1 centi soon just for wallpaper

[marble saddle]

hopefully that doesnt fq your pvp

[restive heart]

also i see you have been investing pvp now. welp theres nothing we do in pve content except solo raid and union raid

[restive heart]

phase 2 and beyond bricks her in pvp

my union mate did phase 3 but for pve purposes. he uses centi now in missilis tower somehow

[marble saddle]

i really dont gaf about SR so maybe just UR for me which is why velvet is there

[restive heart]

i mean aslong we at 3% we ballin’

[leaden canyon]

I know but it would be funny

[marble saddle]

i mean i got 2.74% with these teams. im pretty sure any SEA/NA Tryharder is rolling in his 3.23% grave

[onyx scaffold]

https://www.blablalink.com/post/detail?post_uuid=1491420285467797965 what did i read

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Dead scarlet team

[hollow lagoon]

Calls this bad luck

Blue doll at rank 14 is scarier

[restive heart]

brother. he 4100 gems today. and btw thats on other players since he hasnt hit me yet

[tulip quest]

that guy might be a shift up employee secretly testing comps and pvp

[covert lintel]

How can you see this

[tulip quest]

bla link public not made private

[swift mango]

what?

I can't even see this info on my own account.

There must be another different interface somewhere.

[restive heart]

imagine using 40+ attempts just to get top 5 again lol

[hollow lagoon]

Op rapi

Tf is that Ada swha team

[restive heart]

[marble saddle]

Unga bunga

[restive heart]

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Where did you check the -53 attempt. This is all I see on his blabla

[humble tiger]

You're all jumping him my god.

[swift mango]

Someone who can't def because being 40 level behind couldn't be helped.

[humble tiger]

I feel bad...

I get jumped in my SPA as well.

[swift mango]

It's an extremely weird case where a bricked guy has tons of gems to spare. Even if he saved up his gem as f2p he should be out of it soon.

And if he bought gems to hit but not level up he had some weird problem.

[crystal surge]

what team should i use for rookie arena

[humble tiger]

He spends more than he gains. It's not healthy.

[glad meteor]

Hacks

[rich quail]

[raven plover]

[quick lake]

[vapid lake]

[swift mango]

So some kind of illegal add on that's not allowed to share on maincord.

[wind kelp]

Hmm, this seems, like something. Could run with this. (3rd tem is just random leftovers :p )

[swift mango]

sth like

jack+black+vesti+biscuit+SWHA

[restive heart]

hmm idk if its illegal but im just using the nikke community discord bot

[lunar pawn]

Doesn't poli feed the enemy

[restive heart]

since it shows the attempts on spa

[swift mango]

should be illegal but doesn't matter

[restive heart]

[raven plover]

might as well swap nayuta and poli

[wind kelp]

That is actually a great point 😄

[swift mango]

could you see his nikke with it too?

[swift mango]

idk about that, team 3 can't burst either way so you made team 5 worse for nothing.

[swift mango]

do you have label?

[glad meteor]

[raven plover]

we trust in 4 sg gunning down everything

[restive heart]

nope

his nikke and resources are private

[wind kelp]

Sadly no, unless i get lucky in the next 24h 😄

I could ofcourse throw Em into team 3 instead of Cindy.

And T2 Centi instead of Mana 😄

[swift mango]

if you wanted 5 team you are force with slow cindy, Vesti absolute or 3rl team with Label.

[shell hazel]

it might be in the api data - what is their blabla link I can check it

sometimes it has info that isn't displayed in the site

[hollow lagoon]

@swift mango notice @tropic summit ain’t here again

I think his arm is having a twitching session

Based on previously established pattern that is

[unique mountain]

You have his gewning schedule

[hollow lagoon]

[wind kelp]

Oh i meant if i made team 3 poli(or nayuta)/siren/scar/centi/Em. Not sure what you meant otherwise :p

[swift mango]

I mean team 3 doesn't function in your pic, nayuta or poli.

[wind kelp]

Yeah it's the "throwaway team", the others are based on previous win-streaks and league winners.

[swift mango]

scarlet is actually pointless there.

[wind kelp]

Hmm, yeah, i'll just run some kind of Cindy team then 😄

[wild patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332018768511107083/1465557534638342165/rapidsave.com_p57sjcm7prfg1.gif

[fading ermine]

[swift mango]

My sister is burning out dealing with my shit.

[hollow lagoon]

[marble saddle]

At least he doesn't have to deal with Zant's BS.

[swift mango]

Mb that too

[acoustic light]

@placid bloom could u put up a p2 nayu sg team in rookie whenever

[swift mango]

Idk if this is good or bad thing.

I know I could make him wasting gem now but I don't really want to bother

@restive heart what's your expert opinion?

On this site, bro finally beat me good for him

[placid bloom]

Noir p1?

[acoustic light]

P4 prolly better

[placid bloom]

I guess Drake p1

[acoustic light]

Yea that’s good

[placid bloom]

okay it's up. CP is a bit low though

[acoustic light]

ive been refreshing for so long

the game doesnt want to let any testing

[placid bloom]

[umbral crown]

Good

[acoustic light]

what if its bc someone is attacking u in a 15 min fight 🤔

tbh I have no idea why its showing everyone but u rn maybe I have to fight someone else first

[placid bloom]

no sometimes list is just annoying

[acoustic light]

attacked caius once and ur back again

[acoustic light]

r u able to cp pad like 10k more with cubes or no

[placid bloom]

I don't think so, they are on lv11 cube. I have lv13 cube but that's not even 1k gain

[acoustic light]

okok

doesnt really matter

can still test

[restive heart]

wdym expert opinion

[acoustic light]

alright all done tyty as always

ill return the rookie ranking points soon too lol

[placid bloom]

nah it's fine

the rank is whatever

[acoustic light]

[lunar pawn]

Gotta prepare a new CA setup

[fair pivot]

Is there a sweet spot for Rapunzel invest to be more consistent, assuming no deficit?

Like blue doll or SR doll, OL gear or not

[slate falcon]

Could these teams work

[umbral crown]

Go

[cedar sorrel]

Is this ever beatable with a 100k defi

[gaunt pulsar]

get 1 level and it wont be 100k, should be doable on 2rl noah+lib but only if you can survive swha shots, which would be extremely hard at 28.5% deficit

[cedar sorrel]

I see then for the foreseeable future I wont be beating this guy lol

[gaunt pulsar]

can be done with other teams too at lower deficit, it's just i dont see you surviving through even swha basic shots at that deficit, so some form of protection either with noah or blanc as fast as possible is the choice

[cedar sorrel]

Im noahless too so thats rough

[shell hazel]

for 1 level = the forseeable future? 😄

[cedar sorrel]

Yes

Around a week until I get that level so the next 35 hits I do on rookie arena wont be that guy lol

[gaunt pulsar]

wouldn't try it at that deficit but your other option is to just trying to outheal through it, the problem is i'm not sure who helm burst gonna target, probably swha, and if she is dead from you might die to lib burst

[shell hazel]

it's not a week to sync up 1 level even as f2p surely

we're in hard mode now too, you should get additional crates

[cedar sorrel]

Im not popping cases for a pvp rookie arena battle

[shell hazel]

natural progression without crates should be less than a week

[cedar sorrel]

10000/63= X
X/24= 6.6ish

[shell hazel]

6.1 with wipeout free

[cedar sorrel]

Thanks for the ideas I'll give it a try when I can 💪

[shell hazel]

as it's 2 hours more per day for no cost

[cedar sorrel]

True so around a week

[shell hazel]

wouldn't bother fighting that on that deficit you'll prob die, even 1 more sync may not give you enough

it

[cedar sorrel]

That's what I'm thinking but ut sucks cuz a lot of people in my bracket are at 300k+ cp

[shell hazel]

push campaign until stuck then open some crates I guess

[cedar sorrel]

Im playing campaign at 40+ deficit

[shell hazel]

if you're stuck crate 1 level can maybe push more then

high value upgrade

[cedar sorrel]

Im now stuck at 31 boss
And 15 hard boss

And I feel like the level won't help that much

[shell hazel]

i'm at sync 521 and it's weird but I get cd naturally for sync up quicker than you do at 220 😮

[cedar sorrel]

I guess your cd rate being higher compensates for the higher cost

Rich get richer

Ignore comps just showing current defi

At most I can bring this to like 265k with RH over someone

[shell hazel]

nah it's a weird state where you sync up a bit quicker as you get higher level, until you hit other shortages I guess

[cedar sorrel]

Currently bottlenecked by cd the others for synch levels I have plenty of

[shell hazel]

31 boss is CC, 32 is MC, both need elec dps really

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I dont have elec dps beyond
Ada Jill and Xmaiden

[shell hazel]

no Ein?

[cedar sorrel]

No

I used my selector on jackal I didnt know Ein was gonna be key here lol

[shell hazel]

takes me back lol

this was like a year or so back for me

[cedar sorrel]

Nice lol

[shell hazel]

I would have cindy the 31 boss though not alice

[cedar sorrel]

I have 83k gems so I could pull for Ein but I am holding honestly cuz if new broken nikke show up I could hopefully pull her alongside

[shell hazel]

just brute force with ada and SW prob

vesti kind of mid on bosses though

[cedar sorrel]

.

I said ignore comps

[shell hazel]

oh sorry lol

tired 😄

[cedar sorrel]

All good

[shell hazel]

although I think partially valid

ada and SW kind of work on anything

what comp are you planning for CC?

[cedar sorrel]

But yeah Ive been bruteforcing with shwa ada vs the other CCs

My winning comps have been
Rrh crown shwa rh ada
Or
Lm crown shwa rrh rh/ada

[shell hazel]

no helmT?

[cedar sorrel]

I didnt have her until recently

[shell hazel]

I find she can sometimes do better than RH for b1

[cedar sorrel]

She isnt finished building yet

[shell hazel]

supreme burst gen + buffs for the team

[cedar sorrel]

Last AI s5kraken gave me 0 rocks so thats awesone

[shell hazel]

yeah I know that feeling lol

3 days last week I got like 0 or 1 rocks on S7

[cedar sorrel]

Horrid idk why thats even possible

[shell hazel]

full burst day = 0 rocks and then some random normal day = like 3 or 4 sometimes

[lunar pawn]

Where we going

[cedar sorrel]

But yeah when my helmt is finished I could run her too

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fear-and-loathing-cat-bat-country-gif-6588414663459717815

[cedar sorrel]

Aa a whole it sucks being not able to beat the CC qte

And the 15 hard boss the machine gun just shreds me alive like some minced meat

[shell hazel]

yeah I think I know the type you mean

boss insta machine gun kills

[cedar sorrel]

Yea its rough lol

[gaunt pulsar]

wish there was a way to look up what you fought stages with

[shell hazel]

if you're on PC can set frames to like 5 and then catch them easily 😄

[cedar sorrel]

I do have decent wind units I can run like
Lm nayu lib rrh crown

But still not good enough

I play on phone lol

[cedar sorrel]

Yea its silly cuz the data does exist

But yea I dont think I can beat those bosses with 1 more level honestly I milked everything I could out of campaign for nkw

Unless I go and pop like 1500 crates which I could do I guess

[shell hazel]

moranT may be a game changer for some fights when you get around to building her

but I know the game economy doesn't let you do everything at your sync

[cedar sorrel]

Currently I am getting moranT mats but Im starting from nigh scratch + I need 1 more dupe so thisll take a while

[lone sequoia]

soline alt same burst gen as sanis?

[shell hazel]

I'd trust nikke deck on the numbers I think if it says so

[lunar pawn]

Mm what should I run here

[placid bloom]

I think SAnis is worse

she has nerfed burst gen for whatever reason

[lunar pawn]

My t3 vs his t2, my t1 vs his t3? Replace vesti for cindy?

[shell hazel]

team 3 is derpy scar can just run a label team into it or bay 2RL with defenders

team 2 just similar but vesti should win

team 1 can try stuff but otherwise doesn't matter if you can win 2/3 anyway

[placid bloom]

nvm proc on shot 5 makes SAnis a bit better

[cedar sorrel]

Also could anyway help fix mt def teams a bit? I can show my box if needed

[placid bloom]

even though her shots before have worse gen

[lone sequoia]

first time using soline, i think i will check in the doc

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel it's comin'

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

one of the GTA clones anyway

I'll check it out I think

[shell hazel]

yeah ping here or send blabla with what you're currently running

[cedar sorrel]

How do I send my blabla?

[shell hazel]

Rail what timing do you need to be on noah to catch emi nuke? I've never faced her
I think I saw it was -1RL slower?

[shell hazel]

if you're in shiftypad page there is a sharing icon top right

[placid bloom]

you need to be like 0.6RL slower or something

[tropic summit]

run these

[placid bloom]

so basically 1RL if we don't count cs fractional RL speeds

[tropic summit]

1RL slower is OK, e.g. 3RL emi vs 4RL noah

[glad meteor]

Misinfo

[tropic summit]

there's a literal video right above you know

[glad meteor]

I clutch cs’d a way for 2rl emi to hit into 3rl noah

But emi mid now

[tropic summit]

@swift mango you readin' this

this pve go0n callin' your waifu mid oi

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtNjQ1MTc4MDEwNzkxMDk0NjYwMw%3D%3D

@shell hazel Appreciate you having a look! Also go easy on me these are like my first "actual" teams Ive made for def

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

you stunning at 2RL means they already indommed SWHA... denying her of around 5s... could clutch it although you still get moran lethal'ed at the first snipe unless she's with biscuit

now go clear zizx so i know i can clear it too

oh ffs

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

nooo

[glad meteor]

I cant even tank with crown siren rapi mihara anchor

[glad meteor]

You can clear it at my level

You have the cp and dupes

[rich quail]

Ziz…

[shell hazel]

moran instead of siren? more DR

tempura cubes

[glad meteor]

Can tank

But less dmg

And if i was to clear

I would be in the lowest cp clears in global

[shell hazel]

can maybe optimise a bit but your teams look OK and you're missing some OL's

but you should prio campaign progress

[glad meteor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1273933801860366348/1395892976059678750/GwDpH5FW0AEhAqJ-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[shell hazel]

so I think you should max out campaign units more first, nice if duel use like SW

[glad meteor]

@rich quail

[cedar sorrel]

Im working on getting shwa with better lines aiming for like 10/12

Then Ill invest helmt

[shell hazel]

you should base OL HelmT as well

[cedar sorrel]

Okay Ill do base OL helmt first then

[shell hazel]

is your HelmT treasure phase 1?

[cedar sorrel]

Phase 3

[rich quail]

[shell hazel]

oh phase 3 lol

[tropic summit]

upgrade to these

SP arena

• nayuta helmt anis rh bsoda
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi sbs
• crown biscuit swha trina rrh

Notes

• get moran treasured, then privaty lappy and drake
• build up noise

get teams upgraded once above are ready, if they break you can run more patterns btw

[slate falcon]

What if we all changed our name and became Rail for a day

[tropic summit]

now you can bully back

[rich quail]

Daddy R help

[cedar sorrel]

Good to hear btw

[tropic summit]

i was at work

[rich quail]

[glad meteor]

If everybody is rail. Then no one is

[shell hazel]

you need to max out HelmT skill 1 to 10

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

or your burst gen is not quite the same as on nikke deck it's less

[hollow lagoon]

abondoning your child @rich quail

[cedar sorrel]

Yea all my books will go towards her since the rest of my campaign units are practically maxed.

Yeah its why I gace her the quantum cube hoping it compensates LOL

[rich quail]

Daddy R

[shell hazel]

it doesn't quite I think

[tropic summit]

that kind of happened already actually

[cedar sorrel]

Well who would think my p3 helmt isnt OLd or 101010 right

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

10/7/4 HelmT I'd start to aim for, with prio on skill 1 to 10

[glad meteor]

Some of them got hit by the identity crisis bad

[tropic summit]

yeah one guy in particular is kinda confused on his parents

[slate falcon]

I missed out on lore

[cedar sorrel]

Thanks bro 💪

For now u'd say my teams are good enough with whats avail?

Theyve been holding up decently usually takes 4 hits in CH to then drop and then after I either dont get hit or they dont beat me

So Ive been able to get my 2k gems at least

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon gonna snipe you

[shell hazel]

could try this

but we have no real defence on anything without the noah etc

[tropic summit]

anis in p3 on an indom team? swap anis with trina or with centi

you bursting with anis 4d chess

[shell hazel]

damnit

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 look ok but i'd kick T1 into at least 2.5RL

[cedar sorrel]

"Lets get this party started!"

[tropic summit]

as for his lack of anti nuke consider HP stacking @shell hazel

even treasure less bay is ok-ish in p4

or noise + anchorIM

[cedar sorrel]

All of those have negative CP

[shell hazel]

yeah I went with units that mostly had some actual cp

we only have 3 usable B1, siren, RH, jackal

[tropic summit]

that's reasonable, if CP tanks too much don't even bother

[cedar sorrel]

Yea my rumani is weak af too

[shell hazel]

so I put one on each team 😄

but rumani should be invincible, check cp

[tropic summit]

i'd kick out anis then from T3, turn it into 2.5RL and add a higher CP flex unit

[lone sequoia]

@glad meteor i need videos of soline against SG

[marble saddle]

Funny you said that

[tropic summit]

what an evil boy you are

[shell hazel]

isn't much cp padding left to be had

[marble saddle]

mfer kept atking me for 2 days straight despite me being rank 5 so karma is a bish

[shell hazel]

Drake can enter the chat maybe but she doesn't have much more cp than anis

[cedar sorrel]

She does

[shell hazel]

can you show cp with these 3 teams please @cedar sorrel ?

[cedar sorrel]

Drake is like 30k ish

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah Im building them rn

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message assuming no rosanna, p1 and p5 are SG resistant

(watch liberalio)

[shell hazel]

but anis is 25K

it's a few k more

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I gave her blue doll recently

[shell hazel]

damn you even maxed her doll out haha

well blue max

[cedar sorrel]

Yea cuz I dont use blue unless for blue dolls and I dont have any new camp units that gotta be blue dolled so it was "free"

Cp is:
225
227
185

[shell hazel]

we got some pvp to do lol whale-kun woke up

[lone sequoia]

ty

[cedar sorrel]

Oh no

[tropic summit]

only 20 level difference

is he saving up or you just that good at min/max?

[shell hazel]

he's whaling for levels

[tropic summit]

mana and rapunzel

fascinating take on nero moran too

[shell hazel]

71 outfits and 4 chapters behind me but +20 odd sync

[cedar sorrel]

Also I think the tvesti indom team doesnt work hippos because with vigor on ada she still doesnt outhp tvesti

Thats why I made my indom team with shwa originally

[shell hazel]

it will only show that in battle though

on game screen it won't

[cedar sorrel]

I know but vigor is 7.27 up so 108* that still isnt 125

[tropic summit]

T2 looks very abusable with scarlet or liberalio
T1 and T3 are the interesting bits

[cedar sorrel]

So I appreciate you having a look but my tvesti being sr15 is bricking me in pvp lol

Until I get all my others sr15 too she essentially cannot be indommed

[lone sequoia]

can soline tank p5?

[tropic summit]

wanna try triple win?

[wild drum]

What cubes

[shell hazel]

i'm considering throwing my own try at it, wrong or rightly haha

got 2 tries I guess, and then reset

[tropic summit]

ye you should on your own first

[wild drum]

Railll

[cedar sorrel]

Rail the boss

[lunar pawn]

Cheers

[tropic summit]

nayuta any
helmt tempering
Anis any
RH any
bsoda any

jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
blanc tempering
centi quantum
SBS any

crown any
biscuit any
SWHa tempering
trina any
RRH any

[lunar pawn]

Btw are you railtracer

[tropic summit]

it takes you one click to find out

[wild drum]

So tempering uhhh what stage is that

And u said for notes to get ppl treasured do dat change my units more

[tropic summit]

sauce: https://nikke.gg/harmony-cube-guide/

[tropic summit]

treasure makes helmT from non pvp to pvp core
treasure makes lappy from non pvp to pvp clip RL battery and offburst DPS
treasure improves drake stats
treasure improves moranT buffing capabilities
treasure makes privaty from copium to actual nuker B3 + buffer

[lone sequoia]

don't forget centi...

[glad meteor]

Yes. No vid atm.

Maybe later

[lone sequoia]

ok, ty

[covert lintel]

Wasn't lappy pvp too in the past?

[glad meteor]

She tank all pos

[lone sequoia]

RL=good in pvp, yes

yuni was good in pvp too

[tropic summit]

not really, she was piss poor burst gen without treasure even before cover fix she wasn't clip RL tier but xmaiden tier

[covert lintel]

But because burst gen is similar to noise, no one use it

[lone sequoia]

it was good at the time that people didn't build ele dmg or target positions

same case with sugar

[tropic summit]

what did you end up using?

[shell hazel]

I'm posting it hold on

I'll prob change my def a bit though

I want to play a game of sorts 😄

[tropic summit]

hmm 20 synchro range he shouldn't be able to gap hopefully

[restive heart]

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-uma-musume-low-cortisol-gif-1044120754729731909

[shell hazel]

he's more 🐳 than me though for sure

[tropic summit]

still not as 🐳 as the zant

[shell hazel]

I've been ahead of em in campaign for all time

but no, not as 🐳 as zant

[tropic summit]

or as f2p as hime

[shell hazel]

nop

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel where's my sauce for my 🍿

oh there it is

[covert lintel]

I got label when CA is about to start
Not enough time to full ol her

[tropic summit]

what a bully

@hollow lagoon he's really evil

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/paramountplus-paramount-icarly-carly-CRG77bFGHprivuph1R

[tropic summit]

true evil masterplan cookin'

he has become a monster 🍿

[shell hazel]

their pvp invests were junk before btw they seem to have jumped a lot of units some

I saw what they had in CA and no one really had dolls and stuff, maybe they moved to more pvp invest

[tropic summit]

he should have leeway to invest a bit in pvp at this point

as his campaign and important teams should long be done

either he commits to SR/UR or enjoys a bit of pvp improvement

[shell hazel]

yep kind of opposite to what I did

[austere marsh]

Is Rapunzel doing that

[wild drum]

Oh jeez that's a lot.. so i get all those treasures then come back to rail tracie?

[tropic summit]

teams i gave you, you can run them without treasures, but those units treasured would drastically help

if anything you can put moranT and lappyT to good use, privT can enable a few rotations to mess with your opponents

[tropic summit]

ye rapunzel condition on burst

in this case the stun was to further delay them and more of a power move

true bully

[wild drum]

Im zooming on moran and then lappy

[cedar sorrel]

That shwa ada indom strat was hella nasty

[wild drum]

But i still cant get to challenger 10 or any higher than that consistently

[wild drum]

Also for da teams u gave which is the strongest

So i can like put strong team with to win

[tropic summit]

1. are you using proper attack teams based on what you facing
2. are you gapped? (enemy team CP multipled per 0.846 need to be lower than your team CP)

[wild drum]

Uh is 260k vs 340k a lot

[tropic summit]

after dia1, most opponent defense teams will require specific attack teams

[wild drum]

Oh man idk how to do that id have to like ask everyday

[tropic summit]

ye that's deficit, you are hit with stat penalty, you'd need 288k to avoid that

[wild drum]

I just switch teams around to what i think is good or bad

[wild drum]

Its ok sometimws tho since they put a random campaign team and i win

[humble tiger]

Best feeling to wake up on. No one attacked.

[tropic summit]

depends on you at that point, if you wanna learn and improve to hit higher ranks you can start learning and asking here
else just sit comfy with what you can handle and enjoy a bit lower gem income but less stressing

[humble tiger]

I feel like I'm the only person in my bracket that uses gems.

I get to use like... at least 500 every season max.

Last season I only used 300.

[wild drum]

I make 2k a week and its not enoughh so yeah im gonna ask u a lot of thats ok

[tropic summit]

i might not be always available, you can ask in this chat there's always someone offering their feedback to help beating an opponent
whenever you ask make sure you post your 3 enemy teams and your box or blabla link set to public

[shell hazel]

whale-kun would probably need to be 40-60 sync ahead of me to win I guess, I have the same power as them with 22 sync less than they do

[wild drum]

So post 3 enemies and 3 teams eh? Ill try

Ok be ready in 40 minutes fhen rail

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/friends-laugh-evil-ZvsIuK3ovaHoA

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/office-doro

[humble tiger]

Is it just me or the Muskat SPA rewards container fill up faster than usual?

Isn't it filled to 100% in 24 hours?

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I mean you spent time digging thousands thousands of gem out of King.
Is it worth it?

I'm lazy and don't know if I should try.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shadow-laugh-1

^ @shell hazel

[fleet acorn]

are there preset for CA comps? or i can ask help for mines? im in jp server, and didnt qualify for Ca for like 3-4 seasons? but im back

[swift mango]

Check the link in my avatar

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[fleet acorn]

not joining an epsten like cult or smth right?

[cedar sorrel]

[tropic summit]

once you click you get picked up to be delivered to an island where you'll learn how to be happy forever

[swift mango]

Nah it's just a SEA Nikke union discord

[tidal lichen]

[shell hazel]

le shadow de la eminence

[haughty mortar]

Requesting tips vs this

[fleet acorn]

ok, joined, where do i ask for advice?

[swift mango]

Some kind of women only island and you are the only male?

[swift mango]

Check bettor pic

The threads in that one if you wanted reference or copy pasta

[unique mountain]

So many peeps joining for bettor pics

[swift mango]

Show box and @tropic summit if you wanted him to cook for you.

[unique mountain]

I thought they joined to apply for guild , then i see their messages in this server and get what happened

[tropic summit]

the one and only

[tropic summit]

what else do you post in that discord

[swift mango]

You never approved Rosy's guild application.

[unique mountain]

Memes

[unique mountain]

Don't even remember if he applied he not sea tho that i know

[swift mango]

Just random chitchatting. The rest he hid away.

[fleet acorn]

Bay hates me

[swift mango]

[fleet acorn]

still waiting that dupe to treasure her

[unique mountain]

[swift mango]

200 silver.

[unique mountain]

Is that pack still in store?

[fleet acorn]

40 more standar pulls

[unique mountain]

Thought it would be replaced by new pack

[swift mango]

I don't know. Didn't check.

[fleet acorn]

its not

[unique mountain]

Oh he 686 sync gawdamn

[fleet acorn]

i could open boxes to +701 but dont feel like pushing tower right now, and didnt need more levels to clear hard mode

[tropic summit]

• scarlet archetype
• helmT 2RL nuke archetype

example attached, fix CP on your own if needed (centi is flexable, SWHA and siren are flexable)

[swift mango]

You could only count pulls since Bay started available. 601+ or not doesn't matter.

[unique mountain]

[haughty mortar]

Appreciate it!

[fleet acorn]

yeah all my old silver milleages went to c7 noah etc

before treasures

[swift mango]

I could have Noah core 5+ instead of MLB if I did that.

[haughty mortar]

I did beat them with my setup. Ran it for the lulz

[fleet acorn]

dolphin to f2p struggle, i dont even have 2 rows of c7

[swift mango]

I don't even have more than 3 C7.

[fleet acorn]

btw, if i wanna share my box for CA help? do i do it here? or what channel on that server? since i see everyone using treasure bay

[swift mango]

Here, that discord won't help

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sandiegozoo-food-3o7WIDXmgEj8rSHylW

[fleet acorn]

1 sec, i alt+f4 game instead of control + print coz no reason

[swift mango]

@tropic summit when you do.

You could also ask for cook on comcord maybe someone there would help.

[tropic summit]

it's faster and easier for him to just copy pasta a champ team

CA is boring

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

@fleet acorn BayT and investment or not won't matter much if you decide to copy pasta champ teams.

You may perform worse but there is no deficit on CA

[fleet acorn]

i thought treasure was coz skills more than cp

My deck

i have a few more ungeared levels 1 but i dont think they are relevant for pvp

[swift mango]

Avoid put bay in p1-2 if she isn't treasure that's it

[fleet acorn]

oh so just copy ca teams? i even prepared deck on 1 picture

[tropic summit]

copy pasta

SG team
VestiTU team (bay or moran version)
SWHA team (ada or indom version)
scar - ros / scar - soda / scar - siren
w/e stall / slow cindy

[swift mango]

We could help you check your decks pic to see if it's worth sending

[fleet acorn]

oh, sea s23 winner didnt use bay i see

[tropic summit]

CA is all about the stars aligning for you to get advantaged matchups

you could win with anything as long as it gets the right combos over and over

[swift mango]

Yeah, keep in mind performance varies by your OL, dupes, research level and most importantly luck.

[swift mango]

Like Vesti for example. If you don't have 16+ ammo, indom her or stall teams wouldn't be as good.

Absolute team Vesti would be better option in that case

[fleet acorn]

she has like 18 ammo

1 of her ammo lines is black

my bad, she is at 23 ammo

[swift mango]

Yeah, that's more than fine.

[fleet acorn]

a replacement for xmaiden? she isnt CS invested

[tropic summit]

clip SG

[unique mountain]

Toom is crazy

[fleet acorn]

who?

[tropic summit]

@fleet acorn namely any of these

[fleet acorn]

who might help that team more skill wise? noir, pepper or viper?

[tropic summit]

use noir if not used

contributes passive atk% at least

[fleet acorn]

ok thx guys for help, now need to adjust cubes

[swift mango]

Man, I forgot that I need 15k core dust now.

[fleet acorn]

im at 17k per level

but im more credit/battle data gated than dust

credits mostly, so many OL+5 units

[tropic summit]

and we gonna need 601 by the looks of it

you saw kara attempts at zizx?

if pve go0n@glad meteor can't clear, we goin' be skrewed

[fleet acorn]

zizx

hated her in tower 1240

[covert lintel]

Moran ftw

[tropic summit]

surviving is nice and dandy, but how about killin' it

[fleet acorn]

honestly surviving that first big AoE was the issue

it was wiping me pre 681

[covert lintel]

Need rrh and besti invested

[fleet acorn]

after surviving it, rapi and mihara did the trick

[swift mango]

I'm gonna reject my hum brick my Centi Railrail!

https://tenor.com/view/dio-brando-gif-25280711

[covert lintel]

Oh mihara, i thought besti can do it

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/what-did-you-say-3

[fleet acorn]

didnt try besti, used mihara

and no heals

crown, siren, rapi, mihara, mmast

oh im dumb nvm, i used anchor to survive the big aoe

[covert lintel]

How did you survive with that

[swift mango]

The end is near.

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown he gonna brick

[fleet acorn]

yeah i was dumb, it was maid anchor, just be lucky and properly cover the beams, with b anchor ult you can survive the big aoe

[covert lintel]

What will you cook with centi p3 treasure

[tropic summit]

enemy 0.5RL teams

[fleet acorn]

i was thinking the only reason ill p2 centi is to use her on blanc - blanc team so their burst and finish indom first

[placid bloom]

p1 Cinderella p2 PoliT p3 Label p4 CentiT

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

@raven plover

[fleet acorn]

against this guy is the only one i do blanc to blanc, thanks for pairing her with jackal, he always blanc firsts and my vesti kills his sw when FB ends

he loves changing his teams every day, i just use the same teams to atk

[covert lintel]

The opponent put wrong position so this is still pretty ez with rosanna

[fleet acorn]

i think at this point he is desperate, he moves them around every day

and i just take my position back

[lone sequoia]

a DR comp? in 2026?

[fleet acorn]

i just copy the teams of who won s23 in sea

[lone sequoia]

if you use xmaiden only helmT cs matter, she will last hit

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-pout-cute-gif-9188123745406626649

[fleet acorn]

whats xmaiden role then?

[lone sequoia]

if less than 15%burst gen you need cs in rapu (15~18 at least) or go for 21% and helmTat15%

[fleet acorn]

my helm has 17%

[swift mango]

People still won CA with that, through mostly whales.

[lone sequoia]

in DR? if you don't have the cs is to sgive the team enough burst gen for helmT to last hit, it works as 2nd b3 (2nd cycle-rotation) and to tank in p5 against SG or sniper

[lone sequoia]

i like that some of my older teams still shine

[swift mango]

Well, everyone use that team so it's not really a team you made.

[lone sequoia]

yep, i know

is like most of the people who used SG rosanna quit the game, nothing to say

[lone sequoia]

this CA will be my first time using soline

[swift mango]

Which Toom, Dizk or Harry?

[swift mango]

SG Rosa is still CA meta what are you talking about.

[fleet acorn]

im lost then, with 17% CS THelm, do i use noir or xmaiden?

[swift mango]

Rock it !

[lone sequoia]

do you remember when people used to say that rosanna was sh-t? same time when people didn't build ele or cs for pvp

[swift mango]

Noir make your team burst faster in this case. Though XMaiden is still stronger.

[lone sequoia]

i'm saying that most of the people who made or used those teams already quit before they became meta

[swift mango]

No one said Rosa was shit, they just said she is niche for Arena slave

[tropic summit]

just 8%CS helmT is enough

[fleet acorn]

i 10/10/10 my nero when the full defense or full dmg reduction meme appeared with quiry and SR15 on CA first season

[lone sequoia]

did you start playing after or before rosanna banner?

[swift mango]

The first Nero expert was @worthy knoll who is still playing.

He is also the guy who made slow cindy.

Idk if he could still get to CA now

[cedar sorrel]

If u run nayu rh on def ud always want it to be 2rl if possible right?

[shell hazel]

nayu and rh slow, it's quite expensive to get to 2RL

[tropic summit]

not only that, you want 11CS% team wide to be siren resistant

nayuta p1 is siren sensible else, which can then trivialize the team

[swift mango]

I made slow Moran+XMaiden+Midhara team at the same CA he made slow Cindy Midhara. But ofc this team you could only see in SEA lower bracket where I dew, I don't even use it now but sometime people revisit it.

[tropic summit]

it will work against the average monkey either way

[cedar sorrel]

How does charge speed affect non charging units?

[cedar sorrel]

Yea its for rookie

[shell hazel]

it means you b2 quick enough to avoid siren

[lone sequoia]

unless rh pierce all her shots

[cedar sorrel]

I understand that I just dont know why it has to be teamwide? Nayuta isnt affected by cs right?

[swift mango]

What?
You meant to reply to me?
It still beat Scarlet and SG team and doesn't require much resource so it's not useless when some guys need a filler to their 3-4 other teams.

[shell hazel]

but the generators for burst are

cs on nayuta does nothing ofc

[cedar sorrel]

So then how many units would need to be cs 11?

[tropic summit]

no it was about the 2RL nayuta team

[lone sequoia]

xmaiden is better, it doesn't change if you use noir or xmaiden, both witll be 2.5 if helmT have the cs

[tropic summit]

you don't, not worth the insane investiment

just run standard 2RL nayuta and call it a day

[cedar sorrel]

Okay

[tropic summit]

when it breaks, you rotate your teams

[tropic summit]

if you do want to commit, this is possible 2RL nayuta with siren resistance

[fleet acorn]

can i ask help with cubes now? (nikke deck download isnt working), resi is 15, tempering cube is 12, quantum, vigor and adjutant are 10

[tropic summit]

as you can see from the picture, with that CS% you can cast nayuta 2RL before enemy stuns p1

[swift mango]

Nah, since Noir shooting her 5th shot at 2.3rl and HelmT with 17% CS is faster than XMaiden with even 21% CS. 2.5rl with Noir would be faster. But Noir is still worse anyway.

[cedar sorrel]

I see thats interesting. If the team is mermaid proof howd u go about beating it?

[tropic summit]

noah any/tempering
noise vigor/tempering
biscuit vigor
lib any/tempering
emi any/tempering

scarlet tempering
soda tempering/vigor
trina quantum
anis quantum
centi quantum

nero tempering
moran tempering
rapunzel any/vigor/tempering
helmT tempering
xmaiden any/tempering

jackal quantum
VestiTU tempering/any
rumani quantum
blanc any/vigor
laplaceT quantum/any

bsoda any
nayuta any
drakeT any
ros any
swha any

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit flex flex noise can allow you to survive nuke

[lone sequoia]

for 2.5DR template helm need +8%cs and rapu+15% cs, the flex can be normal RL or units with more than 15 burst gen (in this case helm will last hit to set the speed for the team) if you use something like laplace, xmaiden or clip SG, for 2nd b3 options rh was fine but a bit rng because she need 1 pierce in 2~3 hits to helpt the burst gen (then she clean 2nd cycle with her burst chain) i use bayT in that team because help nero stacks @fleet acorn (but in that case you aim for +15%helmt and+21% rapu or bay--- at 25% both is the next speed)

[cedar sorrel]

Even with the RH buff?

[tropic summit]

RH won't get you siren resistance

[swift mango]

Scarlet team may need 1-2 quantum. Moran team all tempering if possible. Rest doesn't really that matter

[cedar sorrel]

No possible way?

[tropic summit]

you need a B1 that hits a certain burst gen threshold to reach siren resistance

[cedar sorrel]

Interesting okay

[tropic summit]

put it in http://nikke.top/ and you'll realize

[cedar sorrel]

Oh no a new website

[tropic summit]

maybe remotively with emi on 38%CS but that's unrealistic

[cedar sorrel]

Is that like 4 blue lines CS

[covert lintel]

I think he realized he need to use his 💳 to defend against me

[tropic summit]

nah it's 25% in terms of OL

[covert lintel]

From 46 to 49

[tropic summit]

the rest is from her s1

[cedar sorrel]

Oooh okay yeah I dont have emilia unfortunately

[tropic summit]

49 synchro levels

just show him the privaty you're hiding in your pants @covert lintel

[lone sequoia]

probably bastion for vesti if not enough ammo

[covert lintel]

No, she will get bullied in def

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

Now that I have helmt is it possible to beat this guy? I dont like this guy never getting hit by me

[ancient sun]

Can someone remind me how does liberalio interact with cinderella here? I think I remember that Lib will create more gen burst by attacking her decoy but I need to make sure that Cinderella won't trigger biscuit charge

[cedar sorrel]

Im also 2nd with 4 tries so I can do some attempts

[tropic summit]

show your first 2-3 lines of your box

[tropic summit]

that's a slow cindy variant, you want to 2RL lib and wipe them in one shoot

ye you produce slightly less burst gen hitting p5 with helmT/lib as decoy cancels proccs

[cedar sorrel]

Here you go rail

[lone sequoia]

the question is... does lib count as multi hit? or she still need to k-ll biscuit before her S2 proc on cindy?

[swift mango]

FR
Does Libby pierce?

Never heard of it

[haughty mortar]

I will have T3 Moran tomorrow. How can I improve my defense?

[lone sequoia]

i think sniper against decoy in p5 is rng

[tropic summit]

show CP with this

[ancient sun]

Yeah that's why I asked because I never used Cindy myself

[swift mango]

But does Libby even pierce for that RNG?.

[tropic summit]

nah she doesn't, she has reduced burst gen on decoy

[lone sequoia]

rh probably... not lib

[cedar sorrel]

229220 but I could give everyone highest cube for more CP potentially

[swift mango]

No the reduced burst gen when hitting decoy, helmT for example was a bug and fixed.

[tropic summit]

oh it was fixed?

[ancient sun]

Okay so Lib doesn't get her additional attakcs when attacking decoy. I thought wrong

[tropic summit]

@ancient sun for slow cindy run this either way

[ancient sun]

dw I have teams but I appreciate the help. I just needed to clarify that issue

[tropic summit]

SWHA can be flex with other burst gen options, just stay below 3RL

[ancient sun]

on the other hand I need help with CA teams xD

[swift mango]

Yeah, like last year

[tropic summit]

click on blood and join this discord, you've access to all champ CA teams

copy pasta the recent ones for updated meta teams

[swift mango]

Only a few

[tropic summit]

you offer a poor service then, give them refunds

[gaunt pulsar]

you generate only basic sr shot energy, so she would be missing around 14energy each shot when you shoot her at p5

[ancient sun]

yay I needed some reference because I messed up the last one so badly

[swift mango]

What yours is mine, what mine is mine alone.

[lone sequoia]

new gen pvp

[cedar sorrel]

I think u missed it but
229220 but I could give everyone highest cube for more CP potentially

[ancient sun]

You explained it to me before and I forgor

[swift mango]

Moran = Tempering.
Near 100% at 2rl or another milelead, may need add or remove Quantum.
Blanc = May need Vigor to manipulate targeting.
P1-5 maybe need tempering.
Healer may want vigor

[ancient sun]

You made it to CA too right? @gaunt pulsar

[gaunt pulsar]

5 additional shots just dont trigger, that's all

[cedar sorrel]

My moran is negative built

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, next one in danger rn as it seems more people want, but will be in this one

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• moran siren swha ada noah
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi laplaceT
• noise rumani biscuit s.anis helmT (quantum lvl 7 as for picture attached, s.anis burst lvl 9, no ammo OL, run resil cube)

[tropic summit]

you speak as if i'm your sister

[haughty mortar]

I am certain I can get into CA next time. I guess cracking all those boxes will be paying off. Went from 404 to 421

[swift mango]

Oh maybe
But I mean I won't refund.

[tropic summit]

i don't see the screenshot of your matchup showing CP?

either way you need 254k to bother

let's try pushing up CP with an indom team

[cedar sorrel]

Below 254k

[tropic summit]

oke show this next

[cedar sorrel]

Id need to include either tvesti rh or rrh to get more cp cuz those units are actually pretty high cp for me

[tropic summit]

yeah we gonna need to fit them somehow, with SWHA we can probably do

[swift mango]

Could replace Siren with any CP pad

[cedar sorrel]

Siren is my 4th highest

[ancient sun]

Well, let's do our best in this one

[cedar sorrel]

Now its 236920

[gaunt pulsar]

@ancient sun missing 2 days or 1b dmg in 2nd museum to finish moranT before this CA starts

[swift mango]

Rapipi higher

[tropic summit]

oke let's try at the highest 5

[haughty mortar]

Who gets the quant? Everyone uses resil?

[tropic summit]

look at screenshot

[swift mango]

@tropic summit why delete?

[ancient sun]

Hall 2 was not enough?

[tropic summit]

wrong box

[ancient sun]

hmm which elem?

[cedar sorrel]

264482

[gaunt pulsar]

she already 90/16 without crown though doesn't help her much there

[tropic summit]

this?

we need to include at least jackal

[gaunt pulsar]

need last bil for final score on strombringer to get 40 boxes and convert them to 8

[cedar sorrel]

260586 now