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server? you have like +100m more than my last run and think it will be between .9~1.3% (NA) if you are global... probably yes
global yes
1+reset more(? it could be in range for sub-1%
yeah, I can't push much more on the score but maybe a little if I retry some
but will look at last day I guess, if I fail then I think it would be near


Whats the best way to work on sync? Do you just buy the 50 and 70 daily?
drop $100 daily on coredust
push campaign 
alternatively is, wipe out yes, or reroll dispatch more aggressively
noah/biscuit/vesti/helmT/noise
how do i beat this?
I did hit the 102 core dust hill thanks to new chapters 
Filthy pve main
not a priority at all. Ammo or crit are nice to have. Ammo higher priority than crit
lmao he changed his team @tropic summit
Thoughts on beating this comp? I dont have built Vesti, Lib, or Rosanna. T2 only won
Are tou winning t1 or is rosa soloing
had to ask because someone in a different server told me to get crit attack lines, and im like? doesnt most character want ammo?
now i just need to roll 1 attack line and can stop spending rocks on snow white
Cindy wants ammo more than crit, maybe like 2 crit 2 ammo if u reallyyy want to min max. But not worth the 12/12 unless u’re a electric main
3RL
2RL
3RL
Who am I beating here?
good to know, i need 2 attack lines on cindy 🙁
Cindy low-key kinda outdated. Mostly for CC/MC/Behe bosses
yeah its crazy what a year does to a queen
Not even mc anymore

Ein, ada, jill
Man. I can't make 2 2RL teams...
I lack the units needed...
Guess I won't be attacking AGNIE anymore.
jill over cindy in MC?
wouldnt ada be ran with cindy?
oh wait true damage zzzz
Better to ask for MC help in #team-building all the pro low deficit malders there 
pvp chat just wait till blue cp and auto 
i mean i beat mc months ago but i just thought jill was a wild drop
Im a low deficit malder lmao
I have my fair share of lowest clears
the classic reason pvp prog gets stopped

I recently cleared mc. What do you need?
Did it with 27% deficit.
nah im fine on mc
what i need to clear it is more attack lines on helm and cindy
for AI at least, for story its done already
being new and getting into pvp is hard i commend you
Oooh. I thought it's 32.
Yeah. AI MC is bogus.
I have the most f'd up PvP box but can still stay at CH3.
Id reccomend getting all your campaign invests done before you go heavy into pvp at least
with your wishlist like that i say you got it good
Campaign progression will put you at an advantage due to higher dust acrual
hard agree
Yea. But it's nice to actually have PvP units even uninvested.
@shell hazel Idk how I made it to CA last time, coz my acc has been afk on C7 for weeks lol
Bro is every fav item like this why am I ||dating helm out of nowhere||
Are you complaining
Indeed it is 
It just was random af I even watched her bond story to prepare and it's just like completely unrelated
might be lore from the 1st summer event story iirc
cant really rmb. maybe it did jump straight into it
The ||inneundo's talking about her first time|| was also not it imo but hey I guess everything is possible
Yeah I wasnt there for any of that so maybe 
Well helm:aquamarine is basically when they start dating
oh thats true yea
So if you don't have that version you don't have the bond the sets up the treasure
I guess so Ive never been here for a summer event yet
The same thing happens for ||Moran treasure||
I see
Most end the same way
Even with like Poli?
They look like not adults to me 
Anyway my pvp teams are saved now 
I said most
One of my favorite is exia because it's really... Intimate without the confession
Interesting
can anyone help me build spa teams?
Brick
@tender mason Lanboy from Nikkei clan?
It's a good thing for you
You don't have to count anymore of his gems
Didnt u have lvls on him? Need to go back to stronger cp pad comps prob
Jank comps can only hold so long
After hundreds of teams sacrificed.
I like how he deliberately pulled you to Rank 3, then lets himself get pulled to Rank 6, so he can pull you down there as well.
That's the type of scheming I like.
Our glorious King is starting to adapt
yea but it wont work
he has max core units that can compete against cp team
Doing that will only make King’s wheel spin

i mean instead of running jank can go standard issue comps
im doing this team rn
i can imagine him hitting my t2 and t3
my t1 too strong he wont be able to beat it
what about this?
your t1 was also used by most of the players here in my bracket
I can only defeat the ones who doesn't have a deficit to me 
cubes on t3 can go bastion resilience right?
and t1 t2 full tempering?
yeah
quatum on snow will make the team 2 rl but since snow is water, usually tempura
Why is vesti always in P2?
because she is likely to burst in most teams
and she tends to be one of the most invested units
so couldn’t the formation go like Nayuta, Rossana, Vesti etc( asking because I really don’t know)
nope, you do not want rosanna p2 cuz she lose conceal and he rnuke gets weaker
rosanna is usually P4 or P5
Chat i found my new favorite indom counter
Share it with the class
1rl scar lmao
Wouldn’t it be bad if they run like a tanky stall idom comp?(if there is even such a thing)
Label is a counter though. You don't usually reveal counters.
I need turn autoCorrect off it keeps messing me up
Why should I care if somebody counters it
Or else it'll be "Oh there's a Label. Lemme use anything else apart from Ele nukes."
Theres no such thing as an unbeatable team
Only cuz you dont impart your wisdom
thanks!
@glad meteor @tropic summit yall had a kid?

Can someone explain to me in simple terms how Nero teams work?
And are they worth building/ pursuing?
Nero has 100% damage reduction dolls, Tempering + Moran skill 1 in most comps
but 1 Problem Snow White joins the battle harder to utilize her before her dying
and HelmT built with Ele hit's her hard also
not to mention Emilia, also other character WIPERS lIKE liberalio hard to use a Single target tank when all your other members can potentially die from wipe
Thank you for explenation @tulip quest May you evo into beautiful butterfree
I'm Harden by your praise
Make her deal more counter dmg, and ofc more dmg red to negate Blanc's
We were this close to perfection.
Darn, I think it's the first guy on this discord who made use of lazypod avatar pic.


Hello there, niece. 
Mini tracer?
Time to implant cursed thoughts to haunt your growth so you end up twisted and warped



Ayo

Damn. Railtracer and Kara have a kid? That's ao cool.
nero is an st wall but needs healers to keep up her dmg reduction
shes fallen off because most new dps destroy her backline healers and make her unable to get full damage reduction
ya all lib vesti swha can break nero moran team
After getting helmt I made 3 def teams for spa it's been working pretty well 💪 
in the before times nero moran was alright as there were less direct ways to overpower it esp in ca
I will replace mermaid with rumani when shes not a complete CP tank and I also dont know how I can make the nayu rh core 2RL without shwa tbh
well as long as they are working but put jackal in p1
At least prevents your p1 b3 from getting siren stunned
yeah the only b3 u would put p1 is scar because of trinas damage immunity
If jackal gets siren stunned I dont even burst?
jackal cant get siren stuned
She cant?
you will burst in time
as long as ur team is fast enough its fine
siren feeds jackal burstgen a lot so its bait
Ahhh okay
a 2.5rl jack team could need a small bit of cs but 2rl has no issues, and ya siren feeds a lot
Ic ic I changed it around
that team is actually 2RL believe it or not
And honestly I tried to made the def teams in such a way ud want to use lm against all my teams cuz everyone has her built in my bracket
as long as they are working its all good, if it gets broken those are really easy to fix up into stronger teams
Like jackal vesti blanc team and nayuta hood team can stay
Yea I tried to do what I could whilst keeping CP even as well theres only a 10k CP swing between all
if you ever need to change it you can do jackal vestiTU blanc trina ada, nayuta centi helm hood anis, and for a third team I would have to see what else you have
Vesti indom doesnt work for me usually since she has way too much HP
Like to the point vigor doesnt even help but maybe in your suggestion I coukd have ada still overtake
does she have more hp than SWHA?
and vigor doesn't fix it?
My vigor is lvl 3 so nope
then jackal blanc vesti centi biscuit might work, biscuit is a support so her HP is natrually high
I see interesting. I was trying to have like 3 teams with sorta strong core ideas and from what I could see I could only make an indom team with shwa but after it gets broken I can try this out
Using shwa on indom kinda sucks tho cuz it forces nayu rh to be 2.5rl from what I can see
Can do nayuta anis helm hood SWHA
this can counter a rosanna
sense SWHA breaks rosanna concealment
My helm I got today so she only has some investment s1 and s2
Unless rosanna is jackal linked but not many people even know about this
And no OL
ah
But soon tho she's top prio
Yea I dont think my bracket is that smart lol Im able to get top 8-11 at 200k total cp deficit (850 vs 650)
Hello friends, could you send me the 5 teams of the champ of your CA bracket?
@leaden canyon 
if you have xmaiden you can use her instead of biscuit for the vesti team just fyi, you would have to order it like this though jackal vesti xmaiden blanc centi
💰 30000. 
I spent like 60 pulls getting her for it to not see any play so hell yeah I have xmaid 🤣
Thank you. 
those are the 5 teams, name in the first screen shot
well if you ever do overload her she will for sure have more health than vesti
So there is that option and you can use biscuit for what ever the third team ends up being
I see I see
I think pvp prio as is currently is:
Helmt
Rumani
Xmaid
Then since my b1s are few and far between
Well helm for sure makes a difference, rumani is nice to have. A big meta changer would be moran
also noah
Moran is next to get treasured but Im starting from nigh scratch and still need a dupe for her too
So thats definitely a big wip
if no noah you can do moran anchor helmT trina SWHA
that team is digusting for stall
Yeah Im very noahless 
Then get Noah
Okay bro
Also moran treasure not needed in pvp, its nice to have the phase 3 but its not make or break to use her
the treasure if more so PVE
Too late I phase 3 this Sunday
Yea Im aware I just want her for pve as well but I guess she can be pvp ready earlier then yeah
I mean phase 3 is really nice to have still
Are you on your game rn? Could you send me your champ guy's 5 teams? 
Just to let you know this team can survive vestiTU even if shes buffed by blanc and an ada at the same time
Well, it helps, more dmg mean you win faster. 
It's extra 2 blue line ATK for all your attackers.
Nasty work
Thank you. 
yeah nice to have, just doesn't mean if you dont have her treasure you cant use her is all I was getting at
So dair ud say OL and lvl moran b4 rumani?
For sure
Cuz rumani would help me have another team hit 2rl idk if moran has good burst gen
She actually can change how a fight goes
@zinc lion hay man any chance we can have attach limit upgraded to 5 for PvP channel? Having to post twice for champ arena 5 teams is kind rough, just a suggestion
Well lets say you do that vesti team and the moran team, thats a pain in the ass to deal with already. For a third you could do rumani cindy nayuta biscuit mihara, assuming you have the units for it
And if you're bracket doesn't know pvp things that third team is cheese
Yea definitely not but thats good to know as well 
When I get cindy maybe I can progress 31-36 at 39% defi
Im so stuck bro like what am I supposed to do
Idk Ada Ein
I guess since helm isn't really built and full treasure yet you can do rumani for more burstgen
Shes p3 just not 777/101010 and 0OL lol
yeah no overload hurts 
Soon tho Im getting (rocks) and fodder today
In like a week shes hopefully 4ol
I saved my t9m elysion pieces for her
nice
Jill?
Test...
Hmm. @hollow lagoon can you try sending 5 images so I can confirm something.
Because last time I saw someone able to post 5 images.
Could you test it by sending me 5 team of your CA champ guy? 
Rail only cooked 4.
I'll probably auto for 5th.
Oh wait, nvm, you should be in SEA #4
Jill is like actually BiS in really high defi CC apparently lol
Ye. They probably changed it a few days ago.
CC? Your only road block in that time would be MC 
Im already stuck nroski LOL
It's some dude I saw on Grinder dw
What does ST mean? Stall?
How can I beat this whale? I won against his team yesterday and he changed it.
who is good b1
single target
What’s the context
for pvp
Moran treasure phase 3
all i have lol
Label 
Dang. I don't have Noah for T1
I can probably 50-50 the T2. Both teams are 2RL. I can probably remove Nayuta and put her in T3.
T3 is 3RL but my current team is 4 RL. I need to be faster.
Rapunzel
I didn’t say Noah for t1
Oh—
Depends on your team
rn is liter nayuta swha sbs vestiTu
Noah to counter T2
3RL indom for T3
Aaah. I can only win 1 team no matter how I try.
My current boxes, suggestions on sp arena teams with what I got rn?
I will return and fight that whale someday...
Sounds rough buddy
their name? I too can't pronounce it
Both
ye this one was an ugly mofo 
not in those team yet, if they get defeated you've new rotations open with her
when the dual boss shows up I killed the weaker one to see if I could tank the main one with anchor + helmT + moran but nope, one taps

did you go far in 40 yet? I stopped at the entrance malded a whole chapter so I was 
T2 you need siren or noah or indom... aaaand you lack all 3
T3 you can nuke link with helmT here
T1 this team is somewat slow, you could punish p2 and p3 wind codes with double buff vestiTU, you need to kill moran in particular
hey all what is a good team for t.moran to use in Arena?
yes, you
my waifu is female, K probably isn't 
And we can't do any of those.
GODDAMMIT!!
I was thinking of 2.5 RL indom for T3
Then 2RL nuke for T1.
We rely on Nayuta to kill everyone.
Wait that's not gonna work.
she fits in many archetypes, generally you'll want to combo her with bay and noah
to give you a few examples
moran siren swha helmt noah
moran bay biscuit swha helmt
moran blanc swha biscuit helmt
whoa i have build all of those, TY. think i will be able to do a nice team

ET had another identity crisis
Check his profile here

problem is i dont have noah rip

Show box. 
Same old shit. I'm surprised you guys haven't memorized it yet.
Maybe Rail but not me, never me. 
i see too many boxes every week to remember each single one 
that's fine run her with bay
if you've no anti nuke run her with anchorIM and trina
Maybe I'm bind because I don't see Blanc. 
This my afk setup, surely you can do the same
BSoda is replaceable by Siren or other if you're not willing to build her
I don't have her.
Nor Biscuit.
But do you remember your daughter ET?
i am using trina on another team with Scarlet though. currently my teams are:
scarlet/trina/centi/rh/jackal
bunnysoda/tbay/ttove/summerdoro/tdrake
siren/blanc/noir/thelm/tlaplace
these teams kinda suck nowadays though I need to make them better
Mostly u need to skip mediocre new units and pull more standard
Libby+Vesti+Crown+Label+Jackal hit team 2.
Nayuta+Manchor+Helm+RH+SW hit team 3.
Check CP and record
Later. I'm busy with SR.
lol
In an hour.

I see a chubby girl there just because she is your favorite

Nah. Idk who else to put.
Why scarlet there
Because it's either her, Isabel, Harran, or Rapunzel
Why not? 
She's still PvP G
I still use her to slash my whale everyday

scarlet is fine on attack, it's just on defense 
considering yuki ultra brick situation a scarlet would actually be a godsend
NaH
Well, he could get to CA unlike you. 
I might actually go to CA.
I'm still chillin' on C7 coz of her
It's either 4 or 5.
Could be. I stayed in 3-4 the longest.
im stuck on d6 cos i am returning player ... 🧱 🧱 🧱
Doesn't matter. I give my union 9K tickets. The new ones will need that.
Just 🐳
lmao nah man my acc is day1 and I started playing like 2years later... i would have to be ultra rich
Arena ticket(s) kinda worthless ngl, unless they add the Skill Upgrade Manual to the shop
Where'd you get C7 picture 
I need one for myself where I'm just sitting in CH3 despite having one of the worst PvP setups.
ingame it's easy 
Then just make new account
could do that but would lose all my gacha skins lol.
We'll go all in soon.
Send me your in game CA champ guy teams too thank u. 
i was thinking to make a new account but decided i either keep or quit the game so I kept
I thought you know my uid lmao
everyone says pvp is the worst game mode, doesnt feel right to reroll account just for pvp
that's true, you don't need to do well in pvp at all if you wanna play nikke on a more casual approach, less headaches to deal with
Probably not yurionly at least. 
One of the regulars in the rookie arena just had a growth spurt and I am trying to find out what I should change to get the upper hand again
You dont reroll for PvP, you reroll for gems income
change your main B3 to something that deals AoE
e.g. VestiTU
You meant to put normal Soda in that setup?
else run indom emi
emi blanc rh centi jackal
You could have done that when u started playing and saw ur 2 year behind.
Soda beat this no diff
i like pvp in gacha games but not enough to whale, so I am basically just like a f2p in pvp. just kinda sad I could reach d2 with the investment I have
lmao yeah, i never knew how brackets work until it was too late
I use Soda yes
Like this?
The trenches.
usual copy pasta sh*t
I can still Q for CA, but meh
looks good, you can further improve it if you've vestiTU on 5%CS+ and moranT
if you don't meet conditions above keep rumani in there
I will have to T Moran then
For now Vesti wrecked the other team
i had no doubts 
thanks 
I'm lazy 
i did it for my sister 
Since it's 7h to go, might as well try to grab 2 😄 Mid fight is ok, should work, buut, what should i run on 1 and 3? 3 i THINK is doable.
Nikke could never
Ty sis. 
Actually, the past 3 days was quiet. It was just me constantly bothering the CH2 player. Last time I was fighting 4 players for CH3. If I didn't do my Master plan of juggling them around I would've been sitting in CH6.
It is doable
Any 2RL
Soda 2RL
Moran Noah
run these

Nikke has no weapon banner so never ofc. 
I dont even remember when the last time I win 50/50 B2B in Nikke
Third didn't work, everyone dead, leaving nayuta barely alive vs 2 :p
You never got 2 uprate in one 10 pulls? 
third? what do you mean
Oopsie 😄
I went with 1 and 3 since that's what i asked, didn't look close enough :p

when will we ever clear the myth that nikke players can't read
Nope, instead I did ~500 pulls without rate up
Well, doesn't matter, too biggy for britches (not that it matters anyway as said, 7h to go 😄 )
you can pad
nayuta flex vestiTU helmT pad
i have not read a single word in the game client in over 13 months of daily play
you only need to kill noah in p1 and they've no B2
Yeah, gotta try next season.
Just toss one of the big guns in there, like MAna XD
sticking true to the myth
probably why i never knew about brackets LOL

this looks better, the other team is gonna have to deal with indommed SWHA in worst case scenario
what counters a noah biscuit noise sanis team?
depends on their speed and the rest of the team
Yeah T1 ended up losing couldn't outheal swha
scarlet trina siren helmT jackal (scarlet and helmT assumed linked)
or
noah biscuit vestiTU siren helmT
guess I need to get around to upgrading vestiTU and scarlet
noah biscuit liberalio siren helmT
or
noah biscuit lib siren swha
or
noah biscuit cindy siren helmt/SWHA
or nayuta lib helmt siren swha
does lib get around noah taunt or something?
it's siren the core part of that, lib is just one of the many nukers
noah 2.5RL in p1 is siren stunnable
this is enemy team speed:
assuming high CS% on all their batteries, they can get to 2.5RL at best
meaning, noah in p1 remains stunnable, if you stun her, they lose their anti nuke
they'll have nuke resistance via noise, but lib can still make short work of that
cindy retains lethal aswell for the most part in this specific scenario
your objective is to kill their only dmg source, p4 s.anis
scar-trina-siren would also situationally work here, albeit mitigated by noise, because s.anis proccs scarlet s2 heavily, meaning she takes a lot of dmg pre burst and will be low hp
i thought he will do another 40k this season 
slacking last few days
The more he learns the less gem he’ll spend
Por bro used all his gem and about to quit next season. 
Ayy.
Showing this for anyone to give suggestions for sp arena.
@swift mango fell asleep and just woke up lmao. But here you go.
No deficit in T2.
Alright. I'll send it.
Welp, T2 lost.
Could only B2.
Nayu just wiped all. Ah well. Try again next time.
Nayuta+Centi+Helm+RH+LapT
Moran+Noah+Privaty+SW+Rumani
Scarlet+Rossana+Blanc+Trina+Jackal

Do you have Noise?
Nah lmao.
Probably need to check ur box again.
Yeah, nothing to work with.
T2: Nayuta+HelmT+Label+Cindy+Libby
T3' Jackal+Manchor+Vesti+SW+Drake
Check CP. Do you know if Siren linked? If their siren linked, swap Drake and Libby in the 2 teams.
@glad meteor
no T1?
Only need 2 wins. Did you look at his box? 
nop
Defense worked?
Open it, you would at least get 2 Noah. 
or like me 6 pilgrim molds = no pilgrims
Hello Ms.Dareina, how is Rosy today?
He has 24.
24 x 0 = 0 🙁
Rosy is fine, living the life i heard
i think i got 2 noah already from the molds
it work
Time to get 2 extra
yes but where is your rapunzel 
are you trying to get me to find emilia before you find rapunzel 
next attempt's the charm
, surely I win the next one
i think you have a problem
Send their teams and ur box. You tried enough by yourself.
one day, if SU want
I asked the other day and I was told I was mostly coping by trying to win so im not expecting anything, this acc is pretty rough with pvp units and ive only now been tyring to get it built, give me 1 sec and I'll show u the teams but I dont think theres much to be done xDDD
Surely she is hiding in your 24 molds
depends on what CP deficit you facing, once you show us we can tell if it's really hopeless
these are the teams I think railtracer gave me, wait theres 2 of you?? well one of you two gave me these teams, I also asked and I was given the aproved to swap Bsoda for Drake but its pretty hopeless to win rn
someone here told me that I should next build
ye those are likely my teams 
Ada and vesti so after moran thats what I was gonna do but for now Im lacking those main ones
but we need to see your enemy matchup teams and CP against your teams first 
guy is like synchro 363 and im synchro 360 so I think i could have a chance if I got to 361 but I doubt it before that
There were 4 railtracer yesterday, you came at the wrong time. 
*only 4? think i saw more *


What's his team?

give Fayx time 
these are the two teams I was trying to beat, indom SWHA does win like 80% of the time I found so thats nice but I have no idea how to even begin countering that Vesti Noah team, what I did was like removing siren and liberalio and put in Thelm RH and try to burst with ein and that was my closest attempt but I must say I have 0 clue what Im doing since I'm still learning
show T1 aswell for reference
since I was only running 2 teams I basically ran no team here since I took RH and Thelm out
what sucks is the 2nd team is like 15.52 deficit or smth like that, isnt the threshold 15.4 lol?
T1
- 640,654 × 0.846 = 541,594
T2 - 620,685 × 0.846 = 525,900
T3 - 619,438 × 0.846 =** 524,845**
this is what you dealing with ^
you 100% gonna need to slightly pad them
the good thing is that it's a SWHA indom, you can run a slower indom
You should be able to with this one easily, move HelmT to p2 and make it 2rl.
Team 3, indom Rapipi should do the trick.
sorry for my immense ignorance but what should I do to make it 2rl? like does just moving helmt to T2 make it 2RL hows that work?
he's on lifesteal
Nayuta+Helm+RH+SW+Flex
@tropic summit
What was that other team with noise you suggested? this is getting too rng for me to be secure 
SWHA on lifesteal against fire code you want SWHA to be 100% hp 
Buff rapipi
really wild crit rate and crit dmg 
Well, could do lower indom witbSBS
or atk ele and cr
so like this?
no what's hitting you in p2-p3-p4-p5 is just s2
This should win but you still need another team
noway ele and atk can hit THAT hard alone
yh thats been my issue lol my indom team wins but I lose with the other 2 no matter what I do lmao XDD
even less convincing but i'll let you cook 
so use this team?
realistically the alternatives are getting you insane amount of DR and sustain
you said I did this? or is it meant to be done differently?
No don't
alright, any unit I could put in place of rapipi, ein maybe?
@marble saddle see if this is not in deficit
and invert noise with rapunzel btw
the other team with noise was this anyhow if you wanna try it first
keep in mind you remove RH buff from HelmT, if you don't nuke lethal link you're in trouble
give up on that, check with lappy
YOOO
lappy in place of rapunzel?
noah biscuit helmt laplaceT noise
I'd never ever reached 1st in arena
ye you're screwed
I still dont make it to CA since season ends in 2 hours and I spent the whole season in N4 but im still mega happy
your alternative is to either jackal link rosanna or stun with soda/siren scarlet to force misindom
thanks a lot guys
@swift mango did everything 
Check CP this team against vesti
he already won 
I cant I won already your teams worked mate

Nah, your credit. 
dafuq i did nothin' 
can I ask a question about something I dont quite get? why did my indom ein team win? the way I understand it agains his SWHA who constantly fires missiles a missile of her shouldve hit my ein first before my ein shot at her no?
Did this win or? 
well thanks to both regardless, unrelated but who is railtracer? since you both have the same name 
ein has something cheap in her kit... namely her drones still shoot after FB ends, can out trade other indoms, especially if on slower indom
I did ein since u told me to not do Rapipi, I'd read somewhere that ein could work in indom and she barely had enough cp
Okay 
ein supremacy 
so ein wins against slow indoms due to her fire cadency?
situationally speaking yes
Yeah, Ein is good.
I see, thanks 
ironically ein as indom on defense instead is rather weak
so again, it's down to attacker advantage as usual
Why is that?
can be kited and get stuck on invulnerable p1
namely noah biscuit
ill suck it up for a few days
im already 698 sync
3 more levels then ill be able to counter him.
plus hard mode will give me the resources i need to reach 701
what does kiting mean? like taunted? sorry im still learning pvp lingo
essentially keeping an attacker at bay, make them waste time attacking a wall
i call it kiting because your p1 won't be actually tanking her, as the defender class is downright invulnerable
What nikkes can kite other nikkes? to get a reference I mean, or is it more like a team interaction rather than a nikke by nikke case?
seeing it's easier than explaining
p1 defender class
biscuit is present
p1 gets invulnerable once condition is met (HP threshold) via biscuit
p1 taunts, enemy is attacking invulnerable unit
= you kite them
defender class units (ideally also taunters) with biscuit can pull off the above
typically moran and noah can do this with added taunt (either direct or attract)
other defender units can do similar things, but without taunt you'll need to be careful who you dealing with
Ohhh i see i see
@silent torrent
nayuta can do something similar, although you're on just 9s indom and she does not offer invulnerable status, meaning distribution damage can get past it

could a unit like noise "kite" another with biscuit as well if im understanding correctly?
noise is a supporter, not a defender
interaction with biscuit requires target unit is a defender
ah youre right I got confused while looking at her gear my bad 
a common mistake, we often times saw ppl running noise with biscuit... and on the assumption noise would get invulnerable
@tropic summit what happened to snow here
They should bring back pre nerf Noise as treasure. She will just fit right in.
And not OP at all.
Yeah I think I'd seen it somwhere before so maybe thats where my idea came from, thanks for the clarification
you ate scarlet in the face, too slow

Change Centi to Label
regardless swha is a bit of a risky choice against scarlet, she can procc her s2 a bit too often
Dawg both bisc and centi were immune no?

Noah had burst

centi ate the nuke too before getting invulnerable, watch it again
they're bursting before you, the problem is your choice with SWHA
replace with a liberalio or cindy
They cs g0ond you to ohlivion
@gritty ridge
@gritty ridge CS diff I guess. Just use siren to stun scar then.
I swear its the only team they work on, its cp goes up literally every day
ye he got CS% diffed
@gritty ridge Or Move Noah to p1
Unrelated to what we were talking about but I still wish to know if possible. Right now I'm building MoranT and after I'm done with it I was kind of unsure as to what unit I should build first, I was thinking that either Ada or TUvesti were my best choices with someone like Trina Scarlet Rossana Noise right after, is this correct? I'm also trying to kinda build for both pvp and everywhere else which is why I think giving a bit more priority to ada and vesti makes sense
moranT
vestiTU
will be your first 2 priorities
right after noise to SR5, rumani to SR5
ada after is an alright choice?
oh yh rumani is basically done besides doll but cuz moran came out I sidelined her doll for now
alr, does scarlet and trina take more priority than her then?
scarlet can be benched for all it matters if you've vestiTU swha cindy and liberalio built
Moran then Vesti or Rosa.
Burst gen units like Centi only need OL
trina can be used, SR5 4/7/7
ah well I do have the others built so i guess she'll be benched for life then
Blood, I like how you don't need TVesti to win SpA.

So bad for SR, I don't bother investing.
@unique mountain was right u know, Scarlet isn't really useful these days anymore. No without all in investment at least. 477 Trina? Just use other units instead.
you don't invest in vestiTU to win SR or CA... you do to hit people on deficit in SP arena 
Just don't be in deficit.

You need her to win def Prydwen. 
"All DEFs are crackable."
@tropic summit I just remembered I have rosa, why havent i been using her
Yeah, but not if they don't have the CP and investment. Vesti requires them to have more CP and investment to beat. 
there's a scarlet, you better link her with a jackal
I also have an alt account where I just copied the teams I used to my main account but I have different units built in this one so I was wondering if any units I had built here could directly slot into one of the copied teams so that I dont waste much of any of you guys time(main different ones are I suppose Ada TUvesti and scarlet who are more built I guess)
Same team as always but 20 level higher cost him a few gems. 
- moran siren swha lib noah
- nayuta anis helmT rh drakeT
- jackal vestiTU blanc centi ada
centi and anis are interchangable with rumani and trina, fit as needed
Idk If I should pull a devilish and start draining his gem until he decided to open his boxes.

Do i have to move RH and rumani order if I replace anis with rumani since my rumani is built and my anis isnt in order to burst with RH or is bursting with rumani fine?
burst with RH so move up HelmT as needed
e.g. nayuta helmt rh rumani drakeT
ah yh was just gonna send a screenshot that said "like this?" in that order u read my mind, thanks mate hahaha
Rail im considering a moran nayu helm team
for what
that's great and all but weak to slow cindy
Is it?
helmT main B3 on def is kinda bad choice

unless you've huge DPS to back it up with
e.g. vestiTU or SWHA offburst
you wanna go helmT and moran B1 route, you'll want a bay biscuit
then you negate slow cindy
What abt the humble moran noah stall
piss poor choice of B3 and little to no DPS
utter trash
Moran is my dps
work around this archetype
Gonna fatten her up with atk lines
What if I said I had a humble cook with both youre gonna see in CA
It beats slow cindy
It also beats scar and sg
It can sometimes beat absolute
I say sometimes cuz absolute has alot of variants out rn and its confusing
you're dead set for champion then

Bullying hime is ezpz when youre me
Bigbooli 57
Right @umbral belfry
@tropic summit would you mind cooking a spa setup
For someone who's not me
go ahead
i'm making dinner i got time
me when i lie
Is bigboy in your union
yes
No I bully you ezpz
2 pies below
Gonna be 1 below soon
- nayuta centi helmt rh bsoda
- jackal vestiTU blanc centi xmaiden
- noise siren swha bay drakeT

Ive been losing to this archetype lately. Is there a clear answer to it?
it's a strong general purpose team with good sustain and defense properties while retaining lethal and DPS
it is although not unbeatable
namely strong indom carries on double buff can take care of it
e.g.
swha blanc rh centi jackal
vestiTU blanc rh swha jackal
Mmm I will test these
another alternative albeit more riskier is noah biscuit archetype carries
although you'll be trading for a while and need to kill SWHA asap
probably a 2RL jackal-rosanna can also take care of that
Hey rail did you know 2.5 priv beats 2rl noah snow
e.g.
nayuta ros jackal swha helmT (rosanna assumed linked)
My Rosanna is OL'd but sadly very weak
4 atk is her baseline
How important is 30 ammo for Scarlet for s1 to trigger 3 times? Currently have her at 28
60% ammo OL is enough to maximize on scarlet ammo count buffs and also render her siren immune
being short an Atk stack can end up being not lethal if you're running just Trina buff
like if you want to use a stun B1
Ι see. Welp better reroll for that 60% and hope it doesn't mess the atk line then
I ain't got the rocks for locking 
could someone help me with this guy pls-pls 
rosanna available?
yes
- nayuta rosanna jackal helmT laplaceT (rosanna must be linked)
Cubes
nayuta any
rosanna tempering
jackal quantum
helmT any
laplaceT quantum
- noise rumani lib swha noah
Cubes
noise vigor
rumani any
lib tempering
swha tempering
noah any/tempering
teams are assumed not in deficit, you can test links in shooting range
let me check linking in shooting rangge
I thought bay was meme in pvp
the only pseudo option to noah, with biscuit she can do half the job
Hmm
vesti can do the job, assuming 5%CS+
4,92 not enough?
that's from a single OL ye? if so you're rounded to 5%
yes single ol
privaty phase2?
No
then we get to see you top 50 in final rankings maybe 


Projecting @shell hazel beating my scores in 3 months
i'm going to try for 18B then I can maybe get under 1% 
and whose fault is that?
Idk
what do you mean 3 months, 3 days
True
hippo is going ultra ham
3hours
he's gonna be the zanta
just need to spend a bit
Rail how far you get on chap 40 good sir?
With Moran rail should be thru ziz by now no?
50 to 60%
Sth like 48 or 62 should be fine too.
When you clear it at 562 show vidz
Nah I'd win
valid valid
Only you. He can never get my Emi.

I win!

t1 lost
I get it now
You're an Evangelion fan
what's your rosanna stats? you're non lethal with a vestiTU poking p2
Why use nayuta under 2rl 
he's 2RL
nvm i see the problem, blanc already cast at 2.2RL, they've CS%

watch screen above
CS% diffed, he can't run vestiTU in this
That's still slower than 2. 
obviously, it's a vesti
he lethalled at B1, but blanc already cast B2
that's why i suggested laplaceT at beginning
Don't do fake 2rl on Nayuta. 
Just don't.
ask his box
thanks for helping anyways, laplace just evades me, I need 1 more copy
if opponent didn't have CS% it woulda been fine
do something else. 
go ahead all yours
@swift mango #pvp-arena message
Doubt. 2rl without cs. And fake 2rl (2.3rl) are miles different
he lethalled at B1 2.2RL
they're already on blanc B2
I only had one attempt, just informing
he can cook for your attempts tomorrow
season ends today no?
what is Label's skill investment for pvp?
tomorrow reset time?
unless you plan to hit the day after pre reset i suppose
I mean season ends in 10 minutes
I don't think his team is even 2.2rl but 2.5-2.7 
tomorrow new season starts at reset time
yes
yeah he's screwed
although i dunno if this takes in account properly feed in p2
it's always iffy in these scenarios
adding links kicks it past blanc B2, which means vestiTU shouldn't get indom, but they did
@forest zodiac did you equip quantums as i told you ye?
dis
because if you didn't, you likely ended up in scenario above
jackal and vesti quantum yes

guess we can't use vestiTU for nitpicking burst gen in this specific matchups, RIP
@swift mango what teams did you use for SR
#team-building chat already going tilt if you tell them you don't have some iron code invested 
ALMOST MADE IT.
Goddammit.
Next season I'm going to work extra hard to maintain CH3.
@tropic summit i have a new problem now
easy to solve, just copy pasta it
what team counters this
depends on what you prefer, indom, stun, sustain comp, vesti
i'd opt for killing noise
privaty/sanis win
oh that works
they fixed attract taunt so s.anis would keep getting her rockets taunted by noah and noise
Oh holy shit
privaty is a different story though
Wait that makes sanis so much better when did they fix that
regardless if you wanna kill noise:
vestiTU xmaiden laplaceT RH jackal
Aight thanks 👍
attract taunt got fixed around when trina or siren came out iirc?
Huh
18B achieved was more than I could have hoped for tbh, no more mald this is what I stick with
privaty phase 3?
yes

I had a lot of spare material from trading old treasure surplus and some stuff from the museum, so moran + priv p3 were both done pretty fast
plus that's some wildly buffed RRH, helmt + privaty in same team
yeah her dmg was above 3B odd

@hollow lagoon if i were you, i'd also be scared of hippo
this guy is freightening
noah/biscuit/vesti/helmT/noise
how do i beat this?
try
noah biscuit helmT SWHA siren
I gib up I’m too righteous to do @shell hazel things
maybe @shell hazel wasn't a human all along? maybe it's really an hippo behind the screen? @hollow lagoon

ez pz, thanks bro 
me eating rocks
Vile fresh water aquatic mammal, I’m salt water aquatic mammal, we are not the same

Tho why should I be scared of @shell hazel getting stronker, he’s in my union, the stronker the better 
I don’t need to hide my seller comps and weird cooks from him anymore 
I can't match your destro cube atm
Just the normal SWHA team, SBS team, Rapi team, RH team, Raven team. 
define normal 
i've just witnessed @shell hazel and i'm still recovering
What?
watch what that man achieved
That's like the most common SR teams this season.
so where's your 18b 
Gimme 1000 rock so I could get 1 Ele per 50 rocks.
excuses 

And new pc
right, mobile gamer afterall 
rail you see yvonne is out? I
need dragon lady from wuling
yes i will also 
i need that cute waifu from wuling too
I will log in soon and boost your ship
i want to violently ||protect ||her and then fill her full of my ||love|| 
I need to redo my raid
23b? top 50 let's go
20.5 
make it 21, round numbers always better 

That's why Rapipi < SW for my account.
buy a PC already 
instead of throwing money at hoes 
U put too much confidence into 1 level cube upgrade
I have a laptop but it's 10 years old. Usable but not much better than my phone.

Sure I could get higher score on it but not bother
pvp go0n 




