pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

waos, ready to combine r dolls

[restive heart]

ill take the R doll than the SR doll

i dont have R dolls left

i have tons of SR doll kekw

[umbral crown]

R dolls are meant to be combined for kits

i did that last night, got 20 purples and 10 golds

[restive heart]

[umbral crown]

[restive heart]

i do R0 to SR5 doll

[keen vapor]

Why rail impersonates people

[restive heart]

[restive heart]

wdym impersonate

no ones impersonating here

https://tenor.com/view/agnes-tachyon-uma-musume-low-cortisol-gif-1044120754729731909

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

[fast nest]

What is the counter of moran bay biscuit deck?

such as moran bay biscuit SW label

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

usually Vesti indom do the trick

[fast nest]

except it, what else? almost no?

[umbral crown]

ein indom maybe

[fast nest]

no. as far as i know, ein indom blocked by moran.

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit got this to deal with now

[umbral crown]

rosanna

[fast nest]

fast rosanna? like scarlet trina rosanna?

[umbral crown]

yeah, that should do the trick, they will not burst so you will be safe

[fast nest]

how about fast privatyT?

hmm will it blocked by moran

[restive heart]

that wont work

priv ahve delayed burst

[umbral crown]

that could also be an option but you need some dps to secure the kill and to get to snow in p4 you have to take a bit to get there

[fast nest]

yeah. I ran trina rapunzel privT anis SW like this.

[quick lake]

Any 2RL team with enough CP should win all 3 teams

[leaden canyon]

well yeah thats the problem, cp

[glad meteor]

Team look slow. Moran seems to be stunnable by siren

[quick lake]

Defender + Biscuit, then nuke ig

[restive heart]

nayuta-trina-libby-rosanna-tHelm

[humble tiger]

Ah shit. I should check my Arena and see if someone attacked.

[tropic summit]

i'll leave the nero moran to you, the other 2 look like you can deal as usual

[gritty ridge]

Anything thats not blockable by bay lol

[fast nest]

what would it be?
I saw some videos and even lib burst was passed by tekkai.

[gritty ridge]

Well yeah

That team is made to counter lib

[leaden canyon]

round 3 actually died

[gritty ridge]

Vesti beats it, snow beats it, ein beats it, id reckon rrh beats it

[umbral crown]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/668761667873538071/1454160455885914268/nero_pawing2X.gif

[fast nest]

I saw some vids snow and ein blocked by moran's tekkai. only vesti smashed it as far as I saw.

[gritty ridge]

Ein indom should clear it easily

[fast nest]

nono. biscuit's tug was on moran 2 times and moran attracted all ein's feather while getting tug.

[umbral crown]

hitting with true damage is the way

[gritty ridge]

If your team isnt proccing at least 1 bisc protect pre burst you might be messing something up

[fast nest]

again. not my team in vid

[keen vapor]

Mine doesn't

[glad meteor]

Label is there so harder for ein indom to win

[umbral crown]

ein not gonna burst in 5 secs

usually ein teams are 2.5

[glad meteor]

Still bisc s2 trigger later

And Moran will reduce ein dmg for sure

[umbral crown]

blanc is there for something

even bursting around 4 secs, moran will not tank the initial damage of ein

nor bay biscuit

snow will surely die before burst

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

trust the process, trust your Ein

[glad meteor]

Are you saying ein nuke will be later than label dr? I haven’t checked timing

[glad meteor]

Never

[umbral crown]

ein will be during label damage red but not like it will reduce all the damage. even when we are assuming people have that skill lv10 most people do not

[glad meteor]

copenhagen

[umbral crown]

and if attacking, SRs will make label stun herself

[glad meteor]

People have tempering on moran team plus sr doll

So it adds up a lot

Even if not Max s1

[umbral crown]

it does indeed

i now wonder if blanc burst counters part of label damage reduction since blanc has damage taken

[glad meteor]

It does

[umbral crown]

like it would nulify moran burst and half of the damage reduction from label

then blanc is the way

only 35% left and ein burst hits hard, nto just feathers

[glad meteor]

Not really. Only nullify moran

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Label + moran + sr doll + tempering

[umbral crown]

boi has to test it for science then

[glad meteor]

Thats where all the damage reduction is individually coming from there

[umbral crown]

2.5 at much, if not cs involved, 3 then

[umbral crown]

if not just go snow indom ez

but i still trust Ein

[covert lintel]

Will this work?

[glad meteor]

In before Moran just says nah, I’ll win

[umbral crown]

[humble tiger]

sigh

Shall we test our luck?

I'll probably just wait for the next event for blue vouchers...

My luck is so messed up.

[cedar sorrel]

Just save for half anniv

[gritty ridge]

This is a tragic unit list

Spend 3k on pulls for me pls

[humble tiger]

My luck is ass.

Makes you wonder why I'm consistently at CH3.

[gritty ridge]

Ok, but please spend 3000 usd on pulls

It would fix your roster

[humble tiger]

I don't have that amount of money. I'm a broke ass man.

[gritty ridge]

I dont see what your preferences have to do with your financial status

[humble tiger]

I can't get what I want if I don't spend money.

[gritty ridge]

So here's what you gotta do

You gotta find John shiftup

He'll help you

[humble tiger]

I gotta go to Korea? Expensive...

[rich quail]

Processed trust

[keen vapor]

Where's Frima worm

[frank ingot]

how to win against this in sp arena?

[cobalt lotus]

What happens if your burst is supposed to come out exactly at 196f, but you are at position to get Siren stunned (at 196f)?

[oak hatch]

U get stunned and no burst then

[leaden canyon]

is that what happens? I have not run into that for a while so I forget the interaction

[oak hatch]

I guess blood talking about it the other day

I always go lower to be safe

[leaden canyon]

Noah biscuit vesti hood battery can kill round 2

Scarlet SWHA blanc battery jackal into round 3

heck you dont even need hood to kill round 2

could just do noah noise biscuit vesti battery

this is also just going by the units I see you have

[frank ingot]

I can show my box, I almost have all pvp units except label

[cobalt lotus]

I just tested to be sure, yes if it is supposed to go out on 196f, stun stops it

[umbral crown]

noah biscuit vs ein, vesti indom vs moran noah vesti

[cobalt lotus]

can someone help me how to come down from 196f for this team? Seems no RLs are a bottleneck, and putting quantum cubes on everyone doesn't help

[quick lake]

Swap xmaiden for ClipRL i guess

[leaden canyon]

Put SWHA on xmaiden spot

[quick lake]

Quantum cube is usually negligible

[leaden canyon]

And then use a clip RL instead of maiden

[quick lake]

Biscuit not a must in that team imo

[cobalt lotus]

The winrate differs quite a bit vs non-biscuit teams

[umbral crown]

if moran invested, she not gonna die

[cobalt lotus]

and I would like to put a defensive on 5

[leaden canyon]

What are you attacking or is this CA

[cobalt lotus]

just crafting for next CA

[umbral crown]

CA is over already

now that makes sense

[leaden canyon]

ah so it is CA

[umbral crown]

but if sg attacks p5, without biscuit the unit not gonna last

[cobalt lotus]

yes, that is why I want the Biscuit

[leaden canyon]

hmmm only thing that could maybe change it is getting 15% cs on the RL units, you can check to see if that changes it in the speed

[cobalt lotus]

oh dear

[frank ingot]

the moran noah vesti team can easily wipe vesti indom before jackal burst 1

[cobalt lotus]

nope 18% each doesn't help

[leaden canyon]

and then add quantums?

[umbral crown]

[cobalt lotus]

sadly, still stuck at 196f

[leaden canyon]

then yeah you need something faster in there

helmT instead of SWHA with 15 or 19% cs on her?

[cobalt lotus]

thanks for the help but I do want to keep the first four (Helm mandatory for other deck)

[oak hatch]

How about use rumani on quantum cube in p5?

[leaden canyon]

rumani or centi

But I suspect hes using them some where else

[cobalt lotus]

yeah that seems like the only option (Or Anis)

sadly I am using all but Anis elsewhere haha

[leaden canyon]

anis could work

if it actually doesn't change it see if 15% on her does

[cobalt lotus]

Anis works with no CS or cubes

[leaden canyon]

there you go then

[cobalt lotus]

thx for the help!

[leaden canyon]

one weakness covered

[cobalt lotus]

now just gotta funnel some resource into Anis in the next 4 days or so

feels bad for C.Maiden having no job 🙁

[leaden canyon]

You could check to see if rumani and centi are absolutely needed for your other teams

[quick lake]

regular Anis is a huge cp drop typically

[leaden canyon]

CA doesn't care about CP at least

[cobalt lotus]

yeah they are

and they have CS required for those teams too so can't move

[leaden canyon]

ah I see

[cobalt lotus]

hope we get another defensive unit with good burst charge in the future

[leaden canyon]

Idol anis

[cobalt lotus]

haha that would be great

[humble tiger]

We need a unit that absorbs all damage to herself, including AOE attacks.

Completely counters team nukes.

[leaden canyon]

jackal treasure

[humble tiger]

How does Cindy burst work in PvP? Since it's 10 attacks right? Does it attack each unit 2 times or it attacks a unit a random amount of times?

[rich quail]

Why you asking me?

[keen vapor]

YOU'RE ET?!

[rich quail]

MY COVER IS BLOWN

I’m outta here

[leaden canyon]

I dont really remember, I know its slightly delayed before it hits and isn't instant like scar nuke, thats about all I remember. If you're wondering if all the hits can get stuck on a single unit they cant

[umbral crown]

there bay

[humble tiger]

Cuz it said affects random enemies and attack sequentially for 10 times.

All I understand is that if there is only one enemy, it'll get attacked 10 times.

What if there are more? Like in PvP where there are 5 enemies.

Will they get hit a random amount of times totalling 10? Or will all enemies get hit twice? Like, is there RNG involved?

[leaden canyon]

#pvp-arena message

Found the info dump on her

[humble tiger]

Oh! So it is 2 times per unit. It's divided.

Nice. Thank you.

[leaden canyon]

#pvp-arena message

If you ever are wondering how a specific pvp unit functions you can always check here

its a pined message in here

[covert lintel]

Fix/rebalance centiT first

[leaden canyon]

Oh yeah didn't shift up say they were working on her treasure?

[rich quail]

They said the wording of the treasure was wrong I believe

They never mentioned reworking the effects of the treasure

https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail_m.html?content_id=18c0bbcfabbbfa4774aba59aebb3aecfc485

[swift mango]

[rich quail]

Inconsistencies

That was over a week ago

No changes since

here’s to copium

This is Shifty Up we are talking about

[swift mango]

no, she circle the team, 2 each if 5 targets, if someone died, she skips and jump to the next ofc so 1 could be hit 3 times. The randomness is in the 1st target she picks, it couldn't be taunt.

[humble tiger]

I get it.
-# absolutely doesn't understand

[raven plover]

the fix gonna be shield break other than centi's own shield finally heal the team and thats it

[rich quail]

Hoboman the prophet

[swift mango]

Good to hav a dream

[raven plover]

[rich quail]

Dreamers never die

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

[tribal hollow]

[restive heart]

guys

how was my sister recover fever in just 2 days

ehile mine took me a week?

[spiral onyx]

The fix gonna be shields are now linked and count as hitting 5 targets so you can lose even faster

[restive heart]

@swift mango @tropic summit guys any new def teams rcommendations?

looks like king is active again and he somehow learning how to defeat teams (still takes him around 3-5 attempts)

[gaunt pulsar]

have you tried any of this? considering he fights you on deficit t1 might just be the huge pain to deal with especially if it amount to a good cp, in t3 rumani can be emi i guess as you have her t2 idk seems basic but scar on jackal is also painful on deficit

[restive heart]

ill try this.

thanks @gaunt pulsar

[restive heart]

can i do scarlet-blanc-trina-rosanna-jackal?

[humble tiger]

Can't win? I don't think I have a counter.

[restive heart]

you haven blanc?

[humble tiger]

I don't.

I like how your suggestion is to just go for the mirror match and leave it 50-50.

[gaunt pulsar]

seems slow, but i guess can try

[humble tiger]

Because that's what I've been doing in Rookie Arena for the past 2 seasons. Everyone just copied my defense team.

Found my counter

[onyx scaffold]

what do u think about your sw-cindy line-up versus the sw-2RL line up that you previous ran? beside the situation where you lose to enemy blanc ofc @spiral onyx

[spiral onyx]

I like it

[swift mango]

Now my Slow Cindy can force another slow Cindy to 2rl.

[spiral onyx]

I've actually lost a lot of Blanc vs Blanc a lot in the past and it pissed me off

[onyx scaffold]

i just want to know if i should copy the 2rl snow or just use snow cindy

it is not like i will lose blanc vs blanc

[tropic summit]

slow cindy by stunning liberalio

e.g.

nayuta rh cindy siren rumani

the "RH" needs to be your sacc unit, it can be any high atk% unit, keep team 4RL or 3RL though

[spiral onyx]

General rule of thumb:
Don't copy Keripo teams unless you're willing to invest into your PvP units like Keripo

[humble tiger]

Heh. I don't have Siren or Rumani lmao.

I only win by brute force.

[onyx scaffold]

i didn't plan to copy 100%
like you know the 2RL sw team u used had no laplace
i will use laplace in case snow dies early

like your snow cindy uses label
I will use rumani still

[tropic summit]

[spiral onyx]

I don't run 2RL teams for example

All my teams are either 1.7RL or 2.2RL

[humble tiger]

Bad move for them to put their nuke in p1.

[spiral onyx]

My SW team is an exception at 2.36RL

[swift mango]

what happened, Chime?

[spiral onyx]

I guess the Absolute team was technically 3RL

[humble tiger]

What's the fastest theoretical team?

[onyx scaffold]

it is just for convenience. my team has CS as well. but just 15% per
not 18%+ like yours

[spiral onyx]

1.6RL unless you run double sac and they are all RLs

With a double sac technically you can do 1RL lol

[humble tiger]

Has to be fast, and can FB most importantly.

[spiral onyx]

Or I guess 0.8RL

[onyx scaffold]

i dont have the CS and dupes to run this team

[swift mango]

[humble tiger]

Assuming everyone has 4 black CS lines and max Quantum

Sorry. I forgot the cube names.

[swift mango]

This team needs like 25% CS on Libby. I haven't seen anyone successfully use it.

[humble tiger]

Wait. Which cube would be better for faster burst gen though?

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-dance-dancing-gif-10332344673014469963

[glad meteor]

Kara is dead

[swift mango]

Kara doesn't exist. He is just your imagination

[white folio]

Guys please help me create teams for special arena

[spiral onyx]

Fastest theoretical team would be burst at frame 58 using Neon and Product 23 sacs. Requirement is 4x black line CS + Adjutant Noah with the opponent also running RLs with the same charge speed. Neon and Product 23 will get 2 shots off before dying. Combined with Noah's 1 shot, this will give 30% burst gen. The two deaths will trigger Rosanna 's S2 passive twice, granting 73% burst gen and pushing the team over 100%.
At 76 frames per "RL unit", 58 frames would be considered a functional "0.76RL" team with Rosanna as your B1, Noah as your B2, and Liberalio as your B3

You might be able to run this in Rookie or SP Arena at lower synchros but you probably won't be able to run it in CA. Also it's very easy to work around lol

[glad meteor]

i think someone in my global ca ran this

And they won

[spiral onyx]

The B2 doesn't have to be Noah, could be Trina or Centi.

The B3 could literally be whoever you want

But only Liberalio right now is strong enough to 1 shot without buffs

I guess if you're running Noah as the B2 though you maybe use SWHA

[glad meteor]

Imagine bursting to fast so sw hits into noah invul

[spiral onyx]

But please don't actually run this, this is just a gimmick team lol

Fastest practical teams are 1.7RL, aka teams with clip RLs that have 18%+ charge speed

[tropic summit]

died by being squashed by isabel, his last words were: "totally worth it"

[glad meteor]

[spiral onyx]

You can maybe get 1.6RL team with all black/blue CS lines and Adjutant but it's not worth it imo

Actually I'm not sure if it's actually possibly

[spiral onyx]

Entirely situational. You'd have to do the math to figure out

A couple of my teams are exactly 100% burst gen so they need the quantum cubes. Others are over so adjutant is better

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh laplaceT
• jackal scarlet blanc centi drakeT
• noise siren swha lib noah

Notes

• build UP emilia
• build UP vestiTU
• get moran treasured
• build rumani to replace centi, centiT will help your enemy
• get your teams upgraded once the above are built

[spiral onyx]

I like the water bucket filling analogy.
You win once your bucket is completely full.
Quantum increases the number of cups your runner can carry
Adjutant increases the speed of your runner.
If you could only increase one aspect of your runner, which will result in your bucket getting full faster? There's no answer unless you do the math.

If your bucket requires 100 cups of water and your runner can only carry 9 cups at a time, increasing the carrying capacity to 10 will help you fill your bucket faster (because now it's only 10 trips instead of 11).
But if your runner already can carry 10 cups at a time, increasing the carrying capacity from 10 to 11 doesn't do anything (it's still 10 trips), but increasing your runner's running speed will help (those 10 trips now take less time)

That said, not all buckets are equal. 100 cups of sparkling water vs 100 cups of sewage water.

Having faster burst speed doesn't always mean winning if your team comp is sewage water

[white folio]

Ahh ok
Thank you

[frank ingot]

how to win against this in sp arena? I tried facing round 1 and I got easily wiped, is the cp for round 1 too high?

here is my box

[tropic summit]

what's your rosanna OLs and skill lvl?

[hollow lagoon]

has sanity been resored?

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

dropperoni

[tropic summit]

that's still remarkable

[rich quail]

[tropic summit]

those 100 above you are probably day 1 players

[swift mango]

Try 25b

[hollow lagoon]

I have a new mald set in the cooks (no change at all pray for the best)

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

you're on the left

(tempering on vestiTU)

[swift mango]

Have u done sr? Chime

[tropic summit]

ye easy top 100

(2 days ago)

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll defeat @glad meteor one day

[swift mango]

Show

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

This Sr boss need pause to aim for the xtal was the most annoy thing.

[glad meteor]

[frank ingot]

skill is 7/10/10

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

pause is for casuals

[tropic summit]

good she's usable in case, run the ones i gave you anyhow, should be safer as you'll just kite ein

[swift mango]

Well, without pausing only 2/5 of my team could reliably destroy all xtal shard in time.

[tropic summit]

i'd rather have lower score than resort to pseudo cheating

noway i'm ever gonna be forced into pause strat

[swift mango]

Well, your score is low even comparing to me on phone without using pause.

[tropic summit]

that was day 1 run anyway, i'll do it again once i feel like it

ran the most BS teams just to test it out

there's 3 days left

[frank ingot]

thank you for this

[humble tiger]

Goddamn so many tracers.

[hollow lagoon]

I know right

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

How would you go about beating this?

[tropic summit]

would be a shame if you were to run a siren against a non 2RL noah

almost as if their pants would be down

[cedar sorrel]

I wanted to run a mermaid yeah

[tropic summit]

they're also helping you with cindy in p2 at that

just to go 1.5RL in case you want to

[cedar sorrel]

Because of her shield allowing double hits or something right?

[humble tiger]

Damn.

[tropic summit]

decoy gives you 1.75x extra burst gen if in p2, 1.25x extra burst gen if in p3

it's even better for units like vestiTU and emilia as they'll hit 4 hitboxes instead of 3

[cedar sorrel]

Dayum

[tropic summit]

either way

jackal vestiTU blanc siren swha will melt them

vestiTU is assumed lower hp than swha

else you can flex with helmT instead of SWHA if you need to mess with HP

[cedar sorrel]

And having shwa p1 isnt bad right even into mermaid? Cuz shwa will be getting stunned and then tvesti bursts but then after shwa gets indommed and kills everything anyway Im assuming

[tropic summit]

realistically it's easier to punish with scar-trina here

you'll kill their only B1 as extra safety

[cedar sorrel]

My scar trina is super not built because I cant use scar as def so it's an expensive investment

[tropic summit]

e.g.

scarlet trina siren helmT jackal if your scarlet is siren resistant
else
jackal scar trina swha/helmt/vestiTU siren

[tropic summit]

then punish with instant nuker + siren

ideally ensure you've lethal for siren so they can't even burst

and you can make use of cindy to hit 1.5RL

nayuta + vestiTU + RH can also ensure you've lethal for siren

[cedar sorrel]

Do I even need jackal atp I could run rh

[tropic summit]

there's endless solutions to this

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah thats what I was thinking

[tropic summit]

e.g.

nayuta vestiTU rh swha jackal

this one will likely wipe their entire team leaving just noah and cindy invulnerable

[cedar sorrel]

Those are my most built units too so cp is good

[tropic summit]

you've to mess with positioning if you're not 11CS% team wide resistant for nayuta B2 to land in time btw

e.g. assuming RH and vestiTU are linked, you can put RH in p1 to be your B1, then get stunned, then cast nayuta B2 and vestiTU B3

alternatively just run a flex p1 B2

[cedar sorrel]

Ooh thats smart I was thinking put jackal p1 and hope she gets stunned lol

But this team is fast enough to get rh b1 out before stun?

50 mermaid shots is how much RL?

[tropic summit]

the reasoning here should be: take the safest approach

nayuta + vestiTU are lethal as is on siren

anything else is extra

B1 in p1 on 2RL is siren immune

moran nayuta vestiTU helmT SWHA will kick you easily into 2RL, you've 2 buffers and instant nuker

this one pretty much can't go wrong

moran buff
nayuta buff + nuke
VestiTU nuke
SWHA pre burst pokes

all of that on 2RL

[cedar sorrel]

I dont have all those units unfortunately but thats cool yeah

[tropic summit]

well i gave you plenty of ideas, have fun

[cedar sorrel]

I think Ill just run it with this squad I feel safe with the mermaid stun

[glad meteor]

Hmm

[cedar sorrel]

Hmm I didnt get burst soon enough

[glad meteor]

Your nayu gets sirend

And cindy has bisc immune

[tropic summit]

also no jackal, your only unit that benefits from cindy in p2 there is vestiTU

all the tips i gave you earlier... out of the window

[cedar sorrel]

The jackal rh b1 config also didnt get burst soon enough rh actually just died and tvesti got stunned

[tropic summit]

you need 249k CP

[glad meteor]

Vesti indom?

[glad meteor]

No cp i guess

[cedar sorrel]

I wanted to try a blanc squad but we ended up with nayu instead

[tropic summit]

actually just slap pure power against it and call it a day

[glad meteor]

Jackal vesti blanc cp pad cp pad

But needs to ensure linkeroni

[tropic summit]

indom is bad if you don't lethal siren

[glad meteor]

And hp

[glad meteor]

I think depend on vesti ammo

[tropic summit]

just jackal nayuta vestiTU swha helmt

you're effing 1.5RL on this

[cedar sorrel]

Ill have helmt in 2 days trust

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

instead of helmT put another clip RL

jackal nayuta vestiTU swha trina

[glad meteor]

Problem is cindy has biscuit s2

[tropic summit]

fine blanc instead of nayuta

jackal blanc vestiTU swha trina

[cedar sorrel]

The cindy wipe murked me pretty much

[glad meteor]

But could work if nayu has dmg after bisc s2 ends

[tropic summit]

or just biscuit it to survive

jackal blanc vestiTU swha biscuit

[cedar sorrel]

But its fine I used my other tries on def I know I can beat Ill try on reset again

This guy has been avoiding getting beat for a while now but it is defo breakable

[glad meteor]

Kinda want siren to stun vesti earlier than later

[tropic summit]

siren is dead once that team bursts

[glad meteor]

Hmm

[tropic summit]

it's a blanc + vestiTU on a wind code

[glad meteor]

My vesti can’t one tap siren with burst , midvesti

[tropic summit]

i'd just liberalio then

[glad meteor]

She has low multiplier

[glad meteor]

Delayed

[tropic summit]

he can be 1.5RL

[glad meteor]

Technically

[tropic summit]

nuke lands on 2.5RL

[cedar sorrel]

My vesti has 3 atk rolls 2 ammo rolls and a CS roll thats it

[glad meteor]

Can siren lib

No noah?

[tropic summit]

he does

this team should be solved 30 minutes ago i sleep

[glad meteor]

Noise siren lib swha noah ?

[cedar sorrel]

Dont have noah dont have helmt

Helmt is 156 out of 160 tho so literally 2 days including todays reset lol

[glad meteor]

So she’s phase 2 ?

Phase 3 is just burst

[cedar sorrel]

Nah cuz my bond is lvl 20 I may as well wait when I have all the mats and then start using my gifts

[glad meteor]

She doesnt need phase 3 for off burst

[tropic summit]

ok we understimated the amount of brick ol @cedar sorrel has i guess

post your box (next time that is)

[cedar sorrel]

Wdym?

[cedar sorrel]

Im not in a rush regardless cuz all her gears still need to be OLd as well

I do have the 4 elysion atk gears already cuz I saved them for her but Id need rocks and fodder

Idk how people do all of this btw the rock and fodder gain is so slow Ive only been able to build my rrh and shes only 10/12

[glad meteor]

Post your nikkes so we can work with whats invested

[cedar sorrel]

Ahh okay

Top 3 are 57k then its around 46k until alice then everything is below 40k

[forest zodiac]

my SP def got solved by both of my enemies and I can't figure out what to do
can someone help me with defence pls pls

[tropic summit]

post your current 3 defs so we know what they solved already

[forest zodiac]

this one got instasolved

let me find older one that was holding up well for a while

damn I can't find screenshots of previous def

[maiden lodge]

Can anyone give me some help with my pvp comps. I'm pretty sure they suck. Can give more info on other Nikke I have if needed

[tropic summit]

try this one next

• noise rumani cindy helmt noah
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi drakeT
• moran bay biscuit swha trina

[forest zodiac]

I think it was something like
jackal swha vestitu blanc helmt
moran noah lib trina centi
rumani nayuta cindy biscuit siren

[tropic summit]

post your box with units ordered by strength and not selected

[forest zodiac]

it was holding really well

shame it got solved

thanks RailTracer, I'll try yours

[tropic summit]

depends who's solving them, equal invest should solve any defense you make, underdogs may struggle if you can pad them out

[maiden lodge]

This is my Nikke's

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh emilia
• jackal sbs blanc drakeT laplaceT
• noise swha rrh siren noah

Notes

- you're synchro 394 with emilia... this is bad news, it means you're WAY behind than your competition, keep in mind you'll struggle in pvp and ranked modes

• wishlist/build vestiTU
• get moran treasured, can then priv treasure
• build up emilia

[supple plover]

@tropic summit Any ideas against this team?

[tropic summit]

deficit again...

[maiden lodge]

What kind of cubes should I be using? I haven't really done much with pvp

[slate falcon]

More rail’s how many more we gonna get?

[tropic summit]

nayuta any
centi any
helmt tempering
rh any
emilia any

jackal quantum
sbs tempering
blanc vigor
drakeT any
laplaceT quantum

noise vigor
swha tempering/any
rrh any
siren any
noah tempering/any

[maiden lodge]

Thank you

[tropic summit]

check CP

[supple plover]

My OG scarlet and trina are not well built..

CP with SBS

Also i take it if I had Rosanna with SR 15 doll and overloads it would be easier to beat these teams right?

[hollow lagoon]

not my enemy it seems

Sync is different

[swift mango]

Since when 446 synch considered ur enemy

[maiden lodge]

Yea I'm way lower level. Just chugging along as a mostly F2P player

[tropic summit]

what would help here is having CP, you're in defict

regardless rosanna is a good unit to have

[swift mango]

@glad meteor Kara is still alive

[glad meteor]

Plaplace gaming

[unique wagon]

110k 170k

[glad meteor]

My laplace has some decent cp pad

Black cs line

I could go for 4th ele. But would lose cp

Planning on sr5 chisato and takina

[swift mango]

3 units barely alive I see.

[glad meteor]

Had to cover for a bit

[swift mango]

My lap only 2 Ele.

1 Ele line 1 with nothing else often cost me 10+ rocks.

[tropic summit]

so you're telling me there's hope

[glad meteor]

[restive heart]

kinda low i think…..p

[swift mango]

.is he out of gem or you are out of def?

[hybrid fox]

I have come for help.. again

My
Old team lost as usual

[swift mango]

You could siren their Vesti or Noah.

[hybrid fox]

noah siren failed

scar trina siren centi jackal lost I tried

[arctic thicket]

hi, need help to build my pvp team (i rarely play it, but want to start focusing on it)

[glad meteor]

No point running siren there anyway, since you already outspeed noah

[restive heart]

he hasnt attacked yet

[restive heart]

trying to do right click sf

[glad meteor]

Jackal vesti blanc siren swha vs t1?

I assume t2 is ez win

[restive heart]

and it somehow worked

[glad meteor]

Not railtracer cooking 🧑‍🍳

I need a suffix to go with isabel

Something not too lewd , but not boring

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
• jackal swha blanc mmast siren
• moran vestiTU lib drake noah

Notes

• get moran treasured
• improve utilities (noah, biscuit, jackal, centi, noise, blanc...)
• wishlist/build rumani, trina

[tropic summit]

Isabel's Pillow

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

Isabel's Throne

Isabel's Bath Towel

Isabel's Personal Shampoo

pick your poison

[glad meteor]

Pillow or bath towel

[tropic summit]

a fine choice

[arctic thicket]

Thank you

[tropic summit]

[gaunt pulsar]

always so pleasant to win all 3

[keen vapor]

Not

[glad meteor]

Blanc re enter ?

[gaunt pulsar]

yes, manifesting it

[keen vapor]

How's that supposed to help her, it will literally brick her

[gaunt pulsar]

it's not ideal but think of possibilities, blanc into xanne, blanc into bisc, blanc into trina etc
you generally dont care what happens after blanc sent her indom, because you ensured safety, b3 will be pressed regardless, the bad part is that you just cut some of indom time and it doesn't really help scarlet as she gonna send her nuke slower, but you do get possibility to use two b2

[keen vapor]

Meh

[gaunt pulsar]

if only you could turn on and off re-enter or it wasn't working if there no second b2 or something but that's too huge of qol for SU

[hollow lagoon]

@keen vapor you are red again, funny you to this color when @tropic summit become pink again

[keen vapor]

Pink? He's Red

[gaunt pulsar]

dont take it too seriously just having fun with ideas

[umbral belfry]

w wife

[left vortex]

is there a guide for making pvp teams or can someone help me setup them for SP arena?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-9

life is made of many surprises

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

you can refer to any of these stable ones, prefer 2RL and 2.5RL
#pvp-arena message

alternatively post your box or blabla link set to public for someone to make you teams

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[tropic summit]

what not, she's literally broken

[left vortex]

is moran treasure required for SW teams? or normal one is sufficient

cuz im working on her rn

[tropic summit]

normal moran is ok, moranT adds a liter-tier atk% buff to the team for extra value, but her core value is intact

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Hello chat

[gritty ridge]

Isnt liter an atk dmg buff for 80% and moran is a defender caster buff for 40%

[tropic summit]

liter is clearly higher, but for what it matters in terms of pvp she's "1 atk buff"

[gritty ridge]

My moran noah vesti is abt to be even stronger

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ohayo-marin-paimon-marin-gif-25260036

[glad meteor]

Atk buff

[gritty ridge]

Btw, if label takes 1 dispel and snow or priv takes another, wont that leave 1 dps still rosa proof

[glad meteor]

Yes

[gritty ridge]

Ok, so my 2.5 nayu should win vs attacking sg

Defending is most likely a loss still

[glad meteor]

Ah yeah. I got label this week

I could slot her in ca

Stinky

[gritty ridge]

Shes kinda hard to slot for me

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-deniz-deniz-gif-23653159

[gritty ridge]

Imo she excels in 2.5 teams

If she didnt exist I wouldnt be trying my 2.5 nayu

I forget, does label stun herself when shield break or does she just target skip

[glad meteor]

Could be both

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[keen vapor]

Not railtracer

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

Wym not

[glad meteor]

Echo vs imposter

[placid bloom]

I thought everyone already got bored of it

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

https://klipy.com/gifs/rush-hour-you-and-me

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/laplace-nikke

all your house windows are mine

@hollow lagoon it's been 3 days, where's the hippo

[hollow lagoon]

He malding raid

[tropic summit]

i do seem him although regularly logging in in arknights so he's probably ok

[tropic summit]

dayum ya all pve go0ns... what happened to good ol' shooting range mains

even @swift mango tryhardin' SR

[hollow lagoon]

Bro is dead set on become raid lord

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I was just avoiding this chat as everyone was calling themselves different things and I cba to work out who is who

I just want to || hold hands || with my nikkes

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/detective-conan-magic-kaito-17

[glad meteor]

the identity crisis

Old Kara is dead, now reborn

[swift mango]

12b is normal score.

[shell hazel]

I got 17.6 maybe I can do more but I need more rolls or ele or something

[swift mango]

R.I.P. King
Dec 2025 - Feb 2026

[tropic summit]

pve go0n

[tropic summit]

wows, hippo stronk

not sure i can get even remotively close to that

[shell hazel]

if I can get last ele line on rapi maybe a little more, and some mald on same comps possibly 18 then

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-27261347

[shell hazel]

ele line 1 rapi been avoiding me taken way too many rolls

[swift mango]

Maybe enough for 3% in SEA.

[shell hazel]

that's why I play global

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102755814529306644/1429698515323584583/hsr-.gif

[glad meteor]

Definitely

[shell hazel]

I've not had less than 1% before but unsure if this is enough

@hollow lagoon you locked in 20+ yet?

[swift mango]

In before it needs 18b.

[hollow lagoon]

Do you want me to?

[tropic summit]

he needs to fart a tiny bit harder and he gets the 20b

[shell hazel]

you gotta do it you had 20 last time

[tropic summit]

feed RRH some beans

[shell hazel]

you can't get less than your last score will be divide by zero error

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

Idk man I’m a 1-3 ele account

[tropic summit]

am i hearing excuses

[shell hazel]

become a 4d chess player

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

i didn't know zant was a pushover

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/moves-money-gif-20636306

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

Sigh

[shell hazel]

we don't raise no babies here

[tropic summit]

time to do a zant and score 20b

[shell hazel]

I'm for now though

Rail get 15 and

[tropic summit]

15 eh... tall order but i shall try

if anything i need to score higher than this PoS pve go0n betrayer @swift mango

[shell hazel]

good plan give it a shot, steal my teams if you want

[tropic summit]

bold of you to assume i've the same invested units

@glad meteor what's your SR score

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

15.4b. Only did one run so far

[tropic summit]

my god you all betrayers

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

i'm surrounded by pve go0ns

[supple plover]

Dw bro I am bad at everything

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-handshake-3

i know one man who will not let me down at least

@keen vapor what your SR score

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-5835787716691240460

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yuki-suou-roshidere-3

[keen vapor]

Have no score

[tropic summit]

sassuga

[shell hazel]

trust echo to be bricked 🧱

[keen vapor]

kisama

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pat-60

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

here you go

[shell hazel]

that is more like it

[hollow lagoon]

how did you figure out i reached new break point after shifting chubes around anyway

i ddnt tell nobody

[mellow river]

hi, i wanna be a bit higher for the gems, except that i think i may be a bit stuck
i still want to keep some units like noah and rapunzel and others, but like, i feel like it can be more good

i do have moran treasured

[cedar sorrel]

If u wanna be higher first statt by claiming ur points when ur thing is maxed out

Ur essentially bleeding points if u just leave it at 100% for no reason

[humble tiger]

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit rate this team

[covert lintel]

Cheater in 2026

[gaunt pulsar]

pretty sure you dont miss any points, only tickets that you spend in shop, as long as you claimed points at least once this season you get even those that you do not collect

[tropic summit]

average?

neither bad or good

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anya-forger-spy-x-family-31

[tropic summit]

speedrun to ban any %

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-kiss-gif-6588078957197429086

[humble tiger]

Oh my god. That guy is in my PvP bracket.

[shell hazel]

not for long I imagine

[gritty ridge]

What abt this one lmao

[gaunt pulsar]

good for you, will be banned hopefully

[brazen ledge]

hi, i'm loosing with these def teams, what to change? https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?openid=MjkwODAtMTgyMDU5NTM1Mzc0Mjc1MzQ0MzE=

[humble tiger]

Idk. The fact that he's in my bracket and is still online daily means he's gotten away with it for at least 100 days.

[gaunt pulsar]

well maybe he decided to cheat only now 🤷‍♂️

[cedar sorrel]

Youre probably right honestly Itd be insane if it worked like I assumed it did

[humble tiger]

Nope. He's already done this before. Cleared MC AI and 32 a long time ago.

[shell hazel]

you need to collect at least once per season to get the points

the arena currency can cap, the points don't if you collect them once

[tropic summit]

same as last one

neither bad or good

[covert lintel]

That's good
You will have less ppl in your bracket

[gaunt pulsar]

and new whales in 2ish month

[humble tiger]

He sucks anyways. Just Diamond.

[cedar sorrel]

Anyone can help me with def teams? Im chall 10 and Ive gotten hit like 4 times in the past 4 mins

[humble tiger]

M

[cedar sorrel]

[gritty ridge]

What makes it not good

[steel barn]

Do you need to have drake in it?

Looks a bit off

[brazen ledge]

Pls?

[swift mango]

Cheater or mod APK players always exists. It's just that they are smart and only go for 3%.

Or 1% at most

Top 200 could have cheat but their account legitimately could do that dmg.

My experience with using modAPK in games before, is that, you do get ban but if you be careful with how you use the apk. More often than not, you don't.

People who said everyone who used modapk got banned is just not that knowledgeable. Unless the game on a banning campaign because reputation problem, 50%+ of the players who use modAPK won't be banned.

I just stopped bothered with modAPK because stupid competition not worth the risk.

[steel barn]

I'm no pvp enthusiast but I would try to replace noir with xmaiden, laplace or like any rl really

[gritty ridge]

It'll be x.maid eventually, but drake isnt really making it worse

[steel barn]

Have you posted the other teams somewhere?

[gritty ridge]

All of em are posted a ways back

[deep raptor]

Any suggestions for this team and defence in general. He always solves what I do. Plus I know he has a maxed out label for scarlet and Cindy. Defence is the same as attack at moment. I think my vesti sucks but don’t know what to do. https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNDg0MDU1ODcyMTA1MDM2MTAwOQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNDg0MDU1ODcyMTA1MDM2MTAwOQ%3D%3D

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit how are we beating this whale?

Still using the same lineup. Nothing changed.

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[lunar pawn]

is this a good match? or can do better?

[covert lintel]

don't add more whales

[lunar pawn]

p3 priv?

[hollow lagoon]

p2

[lunar pawn]

nice

won't have p3 myself til next SR

[hollow lagoon]

same

my privity aint even ol

[lunar pawn]

mine's hella built since the old days

[tropic summit]

try these next

SP arena

• moran swha blanc biscuit drakeT
• noise rumani vestiTU lib noah
• jackal bay cindy helmT ada

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[brazen ledge]

then i have to ol rumani... thx

i hate her face

[brazen ledge]

SR comps i believe ?

[hollow lagoon]

i could use it for my pvp def and atk

and prob win but sure

[tropic summit]

try these

SP arena

• noise siren swha laplaceT noah
• moran rumani vestiTU bay emilia
• jackal blanc lib helmT noir

[brazen ledge]

i hate the face of rumani

[lunar pawn]

I'm #2 but I still can't find the top guy

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

[gritty ridge]

Thats an interesting indom setup

[brazen ledge]

i'm expert so it will work

[gritty ridge]

Issat so

[brazen ledge]

yes

but i hate the face of rumani thats why i didn't invest in her yet

[tropic summit]

try these, don't run them if you're in deficit

[brazen ledge]

i still don't know how to use nayuta lol

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

Anyone can help me build some def teams? My current ones have been holding up fine but they should be easy to crack still

[humble tiger]

Deficit on Team 2 but I can pad to remove it.

There we go. No more deficit.

232,869 is the deficit benchmark.

[tidal lichen]

where miranda sir

[humble tiger]

I'm doing it!

[wise horizon]

whats a good counter to these comps in SP arena?

[humble tiger]

@tropic summit that whale is gonna wake up horrified.

[tropic summit]

run these

[tidal lichen]

nayuta rumani cindy bisc mihara to enemy vesti
moran noah lib helm trina to enemy scarlet blanc
jack swha blanc ada lapt to enemy sbs

[humble tiger]

Dude. We might actually qualify for CA for the next season.

[tropic summit]

i like your spirit, thing is... a core issue remains

you've less than half of the pvp core units actually ready

[humble tiger]

It's alright. I'm already happy to actually qualify.

[tropic summit]

although, there's a wild chance you can make it with 3 strong teams

[humble tiger]

Let's cook those 4 RL teams.

[tropic summit]

gonna need to consolidate into the 3 best teams you can pull off

the other 2 will inevitably suck anyway

[humble tiger]

Do you have something in mind already?

[tropic summit]

ye i've good news, you can make 4 teams

[humble tiger]

NICE!

And then I lose cuz deficit cuz no investments.

[tidal lichen]

theres no deficit on ca

iirc

[humble tiger]

Oh. Perfect.

[tidal lichen]

neon

[tropic summit]

and anis

the ultra copium yuki run approaches

[humble tiger]

Oh wait. I only have 2 slots for quantum.

[tropic summit]

nah it's leftovers you don't need em

lemme fix cubes actually

[tropic summit]

only need on jackal, rest can be natural

although if you've a spare quantum prolly a good idea to give it to drakeT and noir, just in case bsoda dies too fast

as you don't have rosanna built

[humble tiger]

When this is your box, you have to get creative.

[tidal lichen]

[humble tiger]

We promote creativity here.

[tidal lichen]

i promote hopemaxxing

[tropic summit]

hope max super cope ultra extreme mk II - renewed

[tidal lichen]

why is defending a joke

thoughts on cooking me a sp def

[humble tiger]

Would it be worse if I'm defending?

[tidal lichen]

defending on sp i mean

[tropic summit]

ye it's nearly worthless

at the end of the day you're hoping whoever attacks that def somehow doesn't know about a particular gimmic or pattern and falls for it a few times

only for you to repeat the same process over and over until you train them to just deal with anything

[tidal lichen]

[gaunt pulsar]

I suggest to do a minimal change in your teams after each def fail sometimes works
it is a endurance contest though, whoever gets tired first to solve/cook

[gritty ridge]

My favorite minimal change is to go up in sync

[deep raptor]

Thanks!

[glad meteor]

Bigboi back

[gritty ridge]

There was too little miranda appreciation

[tropic summit]

she's your most invested unit surely

[glad meteor]

Miranda g0oning but need more dmg

RH midhood

[tropic summit]

it's just that SWHA is kinda broken

[glad meteor]

Still thats neutral sw

All that ele and what

[rich quail]

bath towel

[glad meteor]

[leaden canyon]

Where is the rosanna targeting post?

[gritty ridge]

Tf is that team dawg

[glad meteor]

T5 cook

Don’t have shelm

Main problem is just not enough cores

So can’t one shot shields

[leaden canyon]

oh the rosanna targetting post is deleted?

[glad meteor]

#pvp-arena message

[rich quail]

What’s the best cube for SWHA for Arena?

Is it Quantum?

[glad meteor]

Depends. Quantum is just for is you need more burst gen to burst faster

Temper vigor could maybe help her survive

[lone sequoia]

water? tempering

[glad meteor]

Some sticky situations

[rich quail]

I will use tempering

[lone sequoia]

how much dmg can you get in solo raid?

[rich quail]

Thanks you guys

[glad meteor]

Need to test. First hit 15.4b. Going to move raven to maids. Eve to rapi team. Put in new liter chisato team

Too lazy to go full run as for now

Was trying to fish 4th ele on boda today

But no lock

[lone sequoia]

good luck

0 ele on collab or bsoda

how good is your laplace?

[glad meteor]

Nice rapi

I need shelm

[lone sequoia]

ff

[lone sequoia]

is soline better than moran there?

[tropic summit]

no, just ppl lazy to search with ctrl + F

#pvp-arena message

[leaden canyon]

I did actually try that

[leaden canyon]

guess I didn't scroll far enough

[rich quail]

0 ele dmg

@lone sequoia How much ammo does Laplace need?

I have zero

[gritty ridge]

She needs 240%

[glad meteor]

Haven’t tested. But i think i used Moran because she taunts

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit you around? we actually have a headache to deal with

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit nvm I figgured it out after I stopped being stupid

[keen vapor]

Imposter

[keen vapor]

Ah, this is me 60% of the time

[wild hemlock]

@umbral belfry

[gritty ridge]

Whossat

[umbral belfry]

it's mine now

[wild hemlock]

Vesti

[gritty ridge]

Nice piece

[wild hemlock]

back

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-racoon-cute-funny-animals-cat-food-gif-15431336

[quick lake]

This is prob my best rolls on Besti

[umbral belfry]

mine

[humble tiger]

No. That's mine.

You can have this instead.

[umbral belfry]

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/foil-arms-and-hog-blocked-reported-fah-gif-20485102

[restive heart]

[rich quail]

IS THIS A SHOWROOM?

WELL I GOT SOMETHING TO SHOW

holon it’s gon be good

gimme a sec or minute

[glad meteor]

[humble tiger]

That's good enough.

[umbral belfry]

wheres the cs

[swift mango]

Reroll hit rate for CS. HelmT needs at least 5%

[rich quail]

[gritty ridge]

Why 5?

[swift mango]

You should know Kosmiu.

[pure moss]

does crown have more survivability than tbay in arena?

[swift mango]

No

[pure moss]

hypothetically if I put them in p1 who's gonna die first?

[swift mango]

Neither if you used Biscuit.

[pure moss]

what if I want them to die

[raven plover]

whoever got unlucky fighting their ele weakness

[swift mango]

Then the one without equipment or Crown of against Scarlet.

[pure moss]

assuming both are full OL 5 10/10/10 sr15 doll

[swift mango]

Crown against scarlet
The one got her ele weak shot at her.
The one with less core.
Crown is a little more tankier at the same core. Thanks to advise.

[pure moss]

I was asking about these

so my bay is at c5 and crown is c7

or should I put nero there?

obviously nayuta is the best there but I need nayuta somewhere else

[raven plover]

put mast

[pure moss]

mmast?

mine isn't built at all

[raven plover]

normal mast, it boost crit and crit dmg for besti

well unless emi higher atk I think it aims highest atk

[pure moss]

same situation, not built

so between bay and crown

and maybe nero

[swift mango]

Bay is obviously better here for more burst gen and healing other units. Whether she burst or not doesn't matter.

[pure moss]

she'll never burst

[swift mango]

now if you bring a healer to trigger Crown kill 2.

[pure moss]

like rapunzel?

the comp will never burst with rapunzel

[swift mango]

flora

[pure moss]

same

[swift mango]

flora+crown are big extra dmg buff

[pure moss]

hmm

[swift mango]

flora give true dmg
crown give dmg on health

[pure moss]

but flora not built

[swift mango]

in that case just use Bay in the old team

[pure moss]

why not rapunzel?

[swift mango]

whatever make you happy

[pure moss]

I was asking for an elaboration. Idk the mechanic of flora and how she's better than rapunzel

[swift mango]

flora heal and give true dmg off burst,
rapu only heal.

[pure moss]

ah true dmg

[gritty ridge]

Could always use clay

[pure moss]

what does clay do?

[gritty ridge]

Nothing for you, but shes a cheerleader

She only buffs after stage 1 burst

[pure moss]

eh

then wouldn't bay better since she tanks?

[gritty ridge]

Id go flora or mast

[pure moss]

who's better

[gritty ridge]

Flora imo

[pure moss]

I might build her for the CA after this if Rapunzel works

[gritty ridge]

Could also use crown mast

[pure moss]

I can only build 1

[gritty ridge]

Do you not have crown built already?

Also I didnt see the team, im assuming this is trio

[pure moss]

my crown is built

[swift mango]

Even rosy @umbral crown has crown built.

[pure moss]

as I said my crown is fully built

but not flora and mast

[humble tiger]

[swift mango]

Good doll luck today

[frank ingot]

how to beat this in sp arena? round 1 seems I cannot burst to blanc to indom, I only reach RH b1

[frank ingot]

I could only win against the round 3, the round 1 and round 2 were a bit confusing. this is my box

[leaden canyon]

you just need to be a bit faster, you could drop hood for another clip speed RL unit

[frank ingot]

I tried scar/blanc/rumani/centi/jackal, as blanc bursts, got wiped by nayuta.

[leaden canyon]

ah you dont have then cs for it, alrighty it will have to be noah biscuit centi cindy noise

or rumani actually, let me check the speed

hmm, do you have 15% cs on noah, centi or rumani?

[frank ingot]

noah at 14%, centi and rumani at 17%

[leaden canyon]

ok with rumani at least you are 2.5RL

now, nayuta shouldn't kill the whole team here

unless you are in deficit

then it might

[frank ingot]

its in deficit, I think

[leaden canyon]

yep

17.78%

you might be able to out speed the vesti team with scar, let me look at frame speeds

[frank ingot]

do you think, the noah/biscuit/swha/mihara.alt/moran can be beaten?

the vesti team is beatable by my team rn, but if you can suggest other team I do appreciate it

[leaden canyon]

well you can out speed it but it will also probably be in deficit

because that team is slow

But moan will probably clean you up if you cant survive her after

[frank ingot]

yes, that was the case when I tried fighting them

[leaden canyon]

ok so scarlet helmT trina centi jackal can out speed blanc before she bursts

that frees up SWHA

[pulsar bough]

If i can suggest, use Scarlet, Noah, Little Mermaid, Emilia, Jackal to team 2

Little Mermaid for stun Noah so they were forced to use Biscuit as B2 then hopefully Scarlet could wipe them

I'm not sure about who's bursting first though

[leaden canyon]

and moran

[torn obsidian]

am i blind or do you not have vesti

[leaden canyon]

he does shes just low on there

below lap

[torn obsidian]

team 2 looks like a blanc sw angle to me

bring your sw from t3 to t2

jackal sw ada blanc + burst gen

do you have ada

[frank ingot]

yes, I have her

[torn obsidian]

yeah can try that

[torn obsidian]

this probably works too, but idk if your team will outlive the mihara dot

that's why blanc is better imo

[leaden canyon]

This has potential to beat round 1

[torn obsidian]

yeah team 1 is easy

[leaden canyon]

I would do this for round 3

[torn obsidian]

team 1 bring cindy don't need other b3s

noah noise rumani biscuit cindy

[leaden canyon]

Thats basically what I told him to run but he was in deficit, maybe he wont be in deficit with noise though

[torn obsidian]

oh

[leaden canyon]

#pvp-arena message

[torn obsidian]

rumani -> siren works too

i'm looking from his box and moran is higher than noise so

[leaden canyon]

scarlet team bursts before blanc goes off frame wise so this should work also