#pvp-arena
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guys
i have all units but some of them are missing chargespeed line
Label could be anything in case you don't have her.
The problem isn't if you have units but about if you don't have enough CP.
Vesti hit sw
thankyou i'll try this
nice, it worked
Nuh uh, @hollow lagoon should be scared of me getting put in his bracket
Am I reading that new girl from the collab right...
she seems like a possible unit in CA with her stun
Im like 120k cp less than them

stun after the fight is over.
She can't even buff true damage in time 
oooh, I thought maybe like soda
but ya 15 seconds, so meh
Final TL incl Priv SS and MoranTr (still SSS)
Label can be S though anyhow
Can Quiry move to A? Snake wanted it.
Any of the small icons of D can remain in C?
Maybe Raven & SElegg(?) cus wipe?
label is SS
Wide Sugar.
PrivT in ss?
share comps 
What's with the doodle dollar sign?
M.Privaty got shift down to C from A? Her nuke is quite decent though.
why is sugar really big btw?
In usefulness but niche
not really
label is already starting to replace one of the SS B1 in your list in CN
does Label stop Cindy, or just Scarlet?
her buff is big though
Ill consider S aka RH level
You play CN?
i play a few servers
Units in S dont mean they get used less than SS.
But Id assume the B1 ure talking abiut is Rapunzel
Or Rumani
I didnt find Rapu menacing back then. Maybe SolineFT changed things. But we got defenders here saying she shud be the same as Noise. Noise overheals though. And I havent seen revive being useful outside beginner bracket.
Idk I just type what people here suggested
well the shield from label functions very similarly to an overheal
because the damage that breaks the shield doesn't overflow
So what does this do
What attack does the shield block and save her
Almost all attacks are AoE
no i'm talking about general tankiness, since you brought up noise's overheal
I mean shes indeed tanky
Until her shield is gone
She protects the team better than herself, but Electric only is still niche. She is mostly used as deterrent.
And attack.
she protec, she attac
I can't sorry I've never used mine 😄
Gei
actually i shouldn't be talking about label tech too much i'm using her in CA

I know shes good in CA
i'm using her for more functions than just an electric wipe counter
Atk buff?
she does a lot more than that, that people haven't caught on yet
Winning 1v1? Tanking?
Stops any electric within 5s than its herself
Can counter Ada and Ein herself
If shield is strong
like the electric wipe counter is kinda meh if you think about it. nobody plays fast Cindy, smart players pair Scarlet with Rosanna, Ein has true damage
True dmg doesnt bypass reduc
Label has 95% dmg reduc to indirect dmg when shield is up so she counters all Electric herself
still enough to kill many teams in 10s with Blanc
Which Ig can be a niche anti unit
and how many players play Ein
rosanna can be coutered by Label.
Label doesn't really counter ein indom 
There is nothing but buff, elec counter, rosa counter and making enemy team faster.
Main label use ive been seeing is label on swha indom since she counters the teams main weaknesses
Kinda exactly what i thought would work for her, a comp that wants the elec pressure from scar and rosa neutered
Pjng
Pong
suggestion:
work on crown/rapi red hood/helm, they are meta pve. You can already treasure helm if you start investing in her and she is top tier unit for progressions and pvp, not to mention how good crown and rapi is.
continue to push campaign, pray you get jackal or flora to pass the wall, and buy last Helm with 100 points that you will eventually collect, or get her from the selection box if you haven't opened it yet - BUT! only if it helps you pass the 160 wall immediately, hold it if you cannot yet. You at 3/5 units at max limit break already so passing the wall early for you would be really beneficial.
I'm talking about campaign because you dont want to be at situation where you start investing in pvp niche units and suffer in your game progression, people that push harder than you will just outpace you in a long run, the more stages you cleared the higher your core dust income and return from opening boxes, the higher your income/return - the less chances people will be higher sync than you in pvp and bully.
Now to talk about pvp units you have:
Cindy/Jackal/Moran/Blanc/Noise/VestiTU/Trina/Helm/Rosanna/Centi all will eventually require investment in a form of a doll and Overloading their gear + investment in some skills, but seeing how you missing dolls on crown/rapi/helm they should be the priority rn. After them can think about investing more into VestiTU/Blanc for pvp, they have alot of teams centered around them, batteries like Trina/Centi or more "niche" like Noise/Rosanna are too early for you to invest
in terms of teams, can try this:
Doesnt Takina guarantee indom war victory
If she magically survives
She stuns right before FB ends

So u can Takina indom + B3 wipe

indom at 2rl is closer to 13s from the match start, she is dead right after she leaves it
Depends if their indom is bad or a real unit
And ya blanc buff isnt full fbt i think
Its purposely made so its unusable in pvp i think
Her kit
@tropic summit t1 wins but on t3 Bay tanks libe burst
She can still redirect Rosanna

Why is Rosanna becoming pvp standard
Hey ATK buff first or Jackal link first?
Her self buff? Think too slow
@keen vapor he calling your help 
Its immediate
+80% at the start
I think its made to steal Miranda's buff but
Why did rail changed his name
Hm shes still supporter would need to build team around it
because he is busted as Echo's alt.
Id use bisc with vesti and beat either t2 or 3 if 1 wins
Enemy moran lives against vestitu sadly
He maxed out her treasure
And Bay tanks again i think
maybe 3rl indom war
U can give vesti ada buff to beat almost anything
@tropic summit he was tribe tower 700+ couple days ago. and now he is at 907.
i think he ran out of gems 
also 19 attempts today. ez -1900 gems
@swift mango

He is clearly v2
that's so many conditions though, Takina isn't bursting and receiving indom, has enough dmg to keep enemy at low hp, enemy doesn't have heal/lifesteal applied to them
cannot see it possibly being a play over other options
Why did he do that 

Hmmm
Broke his spirit 
I have a gemmer who love it when he could gem
He keeps his level 10 above mine always so he could gem me when I make new def.
He just did 2 per day tho

the other day I jumped 15 level and he ended up 10 level above me still. He level up whenever I level up.
pretty sure my whale also loves when people attack him, remember him purposefully going from c3 to c2 and then back to c1
just gemmed and tested stuff on me and then other dude instead of going back to c1 immediately
Nah 44-36 harder
Once I get all my PvP units, I can probably sit at around 3-5.
He will return tmrw.
His credit card got declined due to too much whaling
True
How can I make my team better
For rookie? you can try moran noah biscuit vestiTU SWHA or jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit SWHA
Thank you, I've needed an updated team for sometime
Any thoughts for this atrocity?
but u finished it ady right?
100 sync ahead of me again you whalin'
that core6 rapi of his explains wonders
is your laplace treasured?
Yes
could give this a go
What teams could I make for the SP ARENA plz ?
My Moran is almost maxed on her treasure, I only got one Emilia, will that still be fine?
Yeah moran doesn't need the treasure but its still nice to have and one emilia is fine
Awesome! Thank you so much for the assistance
Can try this 
Ok thank you 🙂
you need vestiTU against bay+biscuit archetype, not liberalio, she's directly countered
at the same time you're dealing with SWHA + ada, which can counter p3 vestiTU
the easist choice is to deal with T2 and T1
noah biscuit vestiTU rh helmT against T2
(check deficit as always)
you don't need to report to me what he does everyday sir 
sounds like the same story everyday anyway
tell me something new instead when and if it happens

indom SWHA is fine for T1, you don't need biscuit, they've little dmg
for scar team, they've early damage on B2, run noah biscuit lib/vestiTU archetype
ye or noise is fine
swha blanc rh flex jackal is also fine, you don't die pre 2RL B2 against moran noah swha helmt rapunzel
You are wrong, Chime. There is something new today, King had to clear tower, it means his gem is almost out and he isn't about to leave this plane.

Shud Moran and Rosa be SS
Moran regular
Maybe but keep Rosa at SSS. She is at least a Rumani that can one shot and dispel. 
Ok Moran SSS then, both Moran
Yea I feel moran was already SSS tier b4 treasure
Moran is sss
nooooooooo my credits
Ah 
overdive teams are kinda classic and solid
except this one he runs centi instead of maiden.
Echo is playing 2 account, reported.
@tropic summit still think this is possible to win at 17% deficit?
I hoped the smoler guy won but he lost badly. 
@median flare
You aren't getting to final.
i guess i answered my own question huh
really unlucky on r2 and r5 was because of centi shield burst gen lol it's not important for almost all matchup but it was this time
i already couldn't win some ca because tvesti sync issue and now because centi treasure 
The answer is never treasure Centi 
lost today. At least I made it to Top 4 after this bracket change, previous highest was top 64
would have lost the finals to Frenzy in any case
Surprised I even got this far when t1 was "anti pve or scarlet" cope and pray team 
new bracket, lower levels, bots
with enough luck you a chance in it
Maybe
will fix some things for later runs. Like vesti needing more investi, and Scarlet team doing somehow worse than the cope team
quat
pent
As long as scar b3 goes off before noah its fine, depends on the speeds
Use nikketop for frame data

typically scar helmT trina centi jackal can out speed most things
If scar can still be linked you can even do scar helmT trina SWHA jackal
thats super quick
depends on the speed of the other team, even with blanc instead of trina the speed should still be fine
oh hey did nikketop change its domain again?
they lost it, wasn't renewed
not sure if another one open already or they gonna renew this one
This happened just a couple months ago too
Can still use it with http though
Nah I just get your connection is not private
There should be some advanced option to proceed, depends on the browser
huh your centi is p2 ?
yes

yeah but i can see it working if he had a 25% cp advantage over me
hard to say
well suffice to say im still not out of the game yet. plus im close to my goal of sync 701
I don't understand why my Snow White's power is so low. Most of my NIKKEs with the same limit break are around 320k but she's just 303k. Max bond, max skill, max item and cube already.
Can anyone give a recommendation on what to upgrade?
The values of overload lines change the cp
So your other units must have higher %
and or more lines
you also dont have any ele% lines, they count slightly higher than regular ones for cp
the arms are the easiest to reroll, just try to get attack or ele on the third line
PVE Wise Snow wants Element, Atk and Critical damage
for pvp she's already overflowing with damage even on off burst
charge speed doesn't affect her
For the other pieces just temp lock the attack third lines to roll for ele and you can keep that ammo third line and double lock the ammo and attack for an ele on the 1st line
for reference this my Snow HA
ok thanks
so much better than mine lel
didint work
how many rocks?
70 maybe or more
If he didn't get great luck with OL he would have been kicked out of Section.
All guys on section are this kinda of this luck or whale
wait, i got ammo and cs the other day, visor and vest didn't have 2nd line
probably 200 rocks, not sure
We are roundly the same on rock and luck I guess.
i know people with luck... full c7 and if they don't get the unit they want with their 2nd multi, they cry
I guess I'm a bit lickier
Your luck is just that bad
right now my most expensive units are helmt at 400+,
swha and alice at 200
ssrapi at 140 or something
cindy, rh around 100
vestiTU around 60... bsoda vest took like 85 rocks and 0 ele, i don't remember the other pieces
Ah it's just SW being special case
a bit, that 3rd line atk in boots help a lot
It was my turning point
Bro you literally ALL INNED on pvp I tried adjusting pve when I joined Section
minimal investments on pvp if at all possible
sometimes tho I sr15 jackal n stuff
you can't do that when you don't get ele dmg
PvE on PvP my rock roll are shit

my lib 1st ele dmg was rock number 100
SW isn't even special case
swha is 1st, 2nd best unit in the game
I just focused Ele damage all other rolls i've had are bonus
Except certain characters like helmT
and burst gen batteries like centi for CS
Same. in that nearly 200 rock I got Ele 4 times and all are line 1.
look, 100 rocks lib
Insane
on pulls department I guess im unluckier?
160 pulls no more gems
Velvet GOLD TICKET
Then I pull black free pulls
I got her dupe
on the same boat, i only have luck with molds
No SSR during those 160 pulls btw
I don't even have gem for velvet
Imagine months of stacked gems
then u get her on free black pulls
160 pulls + free tickets from events
i got takina in my 191 pull
it's so bad man
but chisato was like 2nd multi... so 1 ssr around 100 pulls
I can't pull anymore I'm gonna pull only good limited and Meta
My luck recently where okay but I skipped almost many banner, even Christmas. This is all I have left.
that is what i have been doing, only collab/limited or pilgrim
323 pulls, no xdiesel
yea I plan on doing that
mine 200
I got 3 x diesel tho on my last pull miracle
Yeah, my worst was 150 no Elegg. I never have that much pulls to be that unlucky.
she will be used btw this raid
i pulled like 120 pulls of ssr at all
I dunno man this 2% or 4% seems like a lie sometimes
feels like it's less than these numbers
i remember the time i got like 3elegg during mihara banner, didn't get mihara in 200 pulls, used ticket then got her from the free daily
It's selegg
Okay, thank you. I will do it in a min
normal elegg here, 3 times missilis
I reroll for Elegg, took 1 day and 6 account
I did it slowly
i saw some post like that, the real problem was that the ssr rate was really low compared to the % the game say
could've just bought an account with elegg for $5
but it's not day 1 anymore
u compete in SPA arena same week I believe
now is time to save rocks again, 1k for scarlet new alt or summer rh
Overspec Neon or Anis XD
Yea my plan also
neon probably, anis can't get the "true" over spec tag
I meant I started this game and reroll for normal Elegg. 
Lorewise btw Neon can't be poisoned,stunned status effect doesn't affect her basically
External stuff doesn't affect her
watch SU make her a RL that hit like smg
Hmm, jolteon left the server 
the speed guy?
The vietnamese name guy
Okay, no deficit. Thank you
“Bán nước vì em”
not sure if it is the same guy who didn't understand how bay work
This dude
@tropic summit my random ahh team worked too
I think my worst of all-time on a 2% banner was Eve
170 to get, Noir dupe at 110, Liter dupe at 150
She is still meta in event boss and daily simulation

Undisputed meta

daily sim?

QOL Quality of Life Nikke MVP
@shell hazel hey, sorry for the ping and necro but your account didn't allow DMs. May I ask how did you scrape the data? I've been trying and failing to find the auth values for blabla accounts

I still fight it 3 times on 2nd day of the week to complete weekly missions
btw how does Nero get 100% DR again?
Moran burst plus tempering plus abilities
oh okay i was missing the Nero S1 stacks
Heard that she doesn’t proc at the start of battle
She procs the stun after 15s of the battle
oh ok so useless
the day we get a b1 that stuns the whole team on burst is the day pvp will become ass. and yes I know rapunzel can do it but she needs to be low health


that's a strange nickname 
but yes i'll take your sister
you are not rail u cant legally take ym sister
Chime 
one of them is fake, clearly not me
yes it is... you running noah biscuit
confused bay noises
she really does suck in p1
idk why he just dont shove a big jelly fish nuke in there, it makes all the girls wet and slippery
situationally speaking the fact that she sucks can be a good thing i guess 

Mind you, she is a tank.
isnt bay treasure supposed to make her viable in p1?
as you can see from @warm monolith her team lost to what she was supposed to counter tho
No no no, the enemy didnt use burst so it wasnt her fault
@warm monolith you are dis dude?
you killed their noise with just laplaceT and 3 batteries?
In game name?
Erm, that doesnt mean she is bad
I mean, she is good against libe still
try running 4RL teams, see if he wins at least against those within 2 tries
if he doesn't he's hopeless
ill try when he defeat those teams above first

also asking. can a 19-20% deficit can defeat cp pad teams?

my teams are 3rl
so i think that would not be a problem i think???????
anyways we will find out
just stick biscuit+defender/nayuta p1
if we lose, theres nothing we can do about it
hello chads, I'm kinda lost how to counter those teams any advice? didn't touched pvp like at vestis release?
that's your defense not mine
but you are not rail
against scarlet
- noah biscuit cindy helmt rumani
against cindy
- scarlet vestiTU drakeT trina jackal
teams are assumed not in deficit (multiply enemy team CP for 0.846 and check against yours, you need to be above that value)
you're right, i'm you 
congrats ur now virgin autistic 34yrs old male living in canada with hole in underpants
damn you seem to know Zant very well, one would almost assume you're him yourself 
i wish you'd make me breakfast 
i did
ty very much kind sir, I'll try it out
rosanna counters tvesti?
or theres no counter against blanc/tvesti comps?
If I cheer incorrectly here Im getting the unlucky frame anyone can help?
Ive never gotten this far LOL
Looking to make a rookie arena team, and I know nothing about Arena other than that Jackal and Helm are good, and Anis is kinda alright


@hollow lagoon congrats for being red
quat
Show teams
But she needs biscuit to survive
@oak hatch #pvp-arena message
Should I ss all indiv or is a video good?
Screenshot is better
No one has time to check video for that.
more indivilia is nice
Nah both you 
More about Vesti p3 vs p4
going for frame on my second account, do i trust the masses
but the mast isn't dolled lol
very low chance but what if the rosanna kills vesti
idk prob still too slow
Idk either thats why Im asking who is losing
Maybe follow your heart
Left could win 1-3, 2-5
Right could win 4-5, 2-3
The one before "," is good chance, after "," is low chance.
i'm just briefly looking at it but i think frenzy is more likely to win
Ill follow the horde then and vote left
Thanks bro hopefully there is no upset
indom is and can be countered by rosanna, but it's the most expensive of the 3 to deal with, so i gave you the cheapest solution
Rail you've been having an identity crisis for a while first echo then zant, are you okay
The main break case is 2. I think frenzy could win. Unless
1- Scarlet more than 32 ammo and siren stun
2- Scarlet counter make Cindy trigger biscuit before Scarlet wipe. Or Scarlet unable to kill Cindy with the wipe and Cindy trigger biscuit.
- Nayuta somehow wipe
liberalio anchorIM helmT siren jackal
i'm not rail, i'm zant and i'm not ok
siren will die to scarlet counter look at her cp
when are you defeating Rail? 
@fathom rock
zant has already defeated rail, he's god knows how many synchro ahead 
What has happened here
You don't have to take it so personally be yourself 
the damage is done
@tropic summit Yeah, you should be Echo, not Zant.
But recovery is possible
things change, you gotta adapt to survive
one day you're an echo, one day you're a zant
who knows, tomorrow i could be you
Rail feel free to dm me if you wanna vent about something or discuss something 
I guess L R R R R.
For t4, check Xmaiden's cp. literally nothing.
no it's really just me f*ng around, nothing happened 
thank you tho Retro 
nice rizz
pls stay safe physically and mentally
can nikke and mentally and physically safe stay in the same sentence i wonder 
Frenzy Moran for sure could survive a core 2 SW indom.
Oh wait nvm.
she can, he catches first shot pretty nicely
that's what @swift mango sister said
Maybe atleast don't overdo the mental part
Man our finals is like so depressing in this bracket LOL. The guy that beat me lost the next match and the finals is like 2 uninvested players 
That's what @tropic summit said

That could happen but it would be small chance.
There is no nikke in his sentence so he is fine 
excellent point 


Anyway, you didn't even pull for dupe for meta like SW. I think it's safe to just get the Collab units. Or are you saving for nikke 2.0.
it worked! don't know how I freestyled that tvesti comp lol 
why stop at nikke 2.0 when you can go nikke 3.0
sexy triple gj Smusie
Nikke 3.0 would be a shoe company.
So no point to try

nikke 3.0 SU is probably bankrupt and EoS already
how much longer can they get away scamming people?
@tropic summit the def you gave me has exceeded expectations it worked once
that'd be impressive on both the company and the actual players be dumb enough to keep on getting scammed

i smell gapperoni @fathom rock
you aint defending against le CP diff
I am gonna caseroni
Nah, tbf they won't make nikke 3. And they won't be bankrupt, they are good at making money. And cut loss. Every Korean company does.

at last, the retro training arc is done, now we go from fillers to the main plot 
yeah ofc, look at how accurate of a business model they made with nikke, if anything they aint stupid and they know people bite at the first lewd you unleash
Most MMO I know that never made it out of beta are Korean games.
it's in their blood 
Mist MMO I know aren't games 
yes, they're a job in fact 
nah, korean ones are just grind for fun, endless one
Mist MMO aren't a game.
Even WoW?
You're being too generous
WoW it's not a job, it's 3 jobs

Even Minecraft?
minecraft was used in sweden to teach eletronics in universities
not a job but maybe education 
Minecraft aimt mmo
But it's anywhere between 0-5 jobs depending on you
I think my def is a lil bit outdated (worked tho for a long time) something I can also improve here? (have all units)
moran team is ok-ish
scarlet team is out dated
the cindy team is too slow

There was that anime style Minecraft-like promised by Nexon that I waited 7 years, and it was crapped during close beta. 

ohh ok thats bad, don't know why people still lost, even more bad than me prob xd
anyone can share some updated comps I could try?
If there was no korean game, then no gacha game. it would have been better environment for gamers.
slap this
Gacha come from Japan
Maple story is Korean game. Yeah, they applied gacha model in jp server first.
I can't help but notice you really like that nayu comp
your sister also comes from japan
it's monkey proof
So you are japanese.
no unlike you i'm not asian



ty man you are too kind, I wish your pillow to always have the right temperature 
is bay currently the meta for B2 for T3 in sp arena now?
i wish my pillows were summer doro ass||ets||
Noah
Blanc
Nayu

But all havw counters
bay + biscuit is ok for SP arena, as bay is the only pseudo alternative to noah
i'm not that confident with nayuta 

hi hippo

hi hime

Nayuta
evil as always
nihil mvp 
Nah, it's because my Nayuta too weak left his Helm with 2% hp
hmm..red hood to buff her slap, i see
outskilled 
~~the 100+ research difference has nothing to do with you losing
~~
so it is
both of you are f2p so i can't really tell
We have similar research level.

Yeah, his helm survive my Lap and Nayu wipe. I need to get more atk
reject pvp, return to pve g0on
But my rock luck suck
my rock luck also suck
PvE even need more rock to roll for ele
ahh yeah before I try that out, no quantum cubes? do I use smth else?
much better than mine.
PvE needs a miracle for us to compete @swift mango
Bloooood the N2O acc is sync capped I can't open my cases nooooo
one day ill have something 4 ele
rumani quantum
siren tempering
swha tempering
bay tempering/vigor
biscuit vigor
moran tempering
jackal qunatum
vestiTU tempering
laplaceT quantum
noah tempering/vigor
nayuta any
centi any
helmt tempering/vigor
rh any
emilia any
Your fault of saving 500k gem and not roll for dupes
I rolled for dupes btw
I still have 550k+
that's the day the world will end because you'll become too strong

Nah, you can't be having enough dupe. Real Synch cap is 1020+
RageBaiterV4 



i like how the numbers keep going up 
I pulled for a reasonable amount of dupes man...
u have ur title now use it
don't think we gonna corrupt retro so easily
Then you won't have 550k gem
unlike us he has his MA reputation to retain
I am retro
I've always been retro
I will continue to be retro
no
Blocked
ur just hippo doing pretend
But your main account. Was never retro
It is retro bc old
many call him Retro, but he's also woolage

never ask a french how long is their baguette
@fathom rock how long is a hippo
Chat so much more peaceful now 
yeah get muted @hollow lagoon


@hollow lagoon @umbral belfry @glad meteor which one do you think is the correct one? 
Final
am i seeing this right, centiTR is SS?
Thanks bro!
?
1 on Monday Wednesday and Fridays 2 on Tuesday Thursday and Saturdays, on sundays they cheat with Arcana
makes sense 
is. centiTR. SS?
i dont agree with sugar's width
So this is fixed hypothetical
i'll be honest, no offense
Why Zant at C?
but 1
@tropic summit why are you at C
🙁
@umbral belfry what do you think?
ask Zant
@glad meteor Get him banned pls for defamation
you are Zant
Bro wants centiT in A tier I imagine 
nah i already told kise what i think, those tierlist will never be accurate until they account the gamemode in which those units are used and the side
CA
Attack
Defense
should have their own tierlist, then you can actually attempt being accurate
Its there to farm engagement
It is what it is 
Her only use I could find is in CA, in a specific slow team that needs opponent to be fast and put her in p5 to tank SG.


And u guys prove it works

Idk, @lusty gull said he loss today because of his CentiT.
I told u
Centi is bugged. Dunno what hes doing.

Bastial believed
CentiTr Phase2+ ?
Here is a list of days where pvp didn't have a major bug :
Centi but is the mismatched shield healing effect, not her shield give out burst gen.
pascal propaganda
I thought Pascal is inconsistent af
pascal is still gen
it only matters againt really few teams and it happens 
again, the biggest problem is that her treasure doesn't work
so is @swift mango 's sister
ill take your rocks

@fathom rock What do you think
pvp chat on fire
no 


Raising pascal without neon smh 
What if rais both to match clipsg but keep pinne below em for cp diff
Also I had to keep clicking every box to find that msg
Pinne is good for sac. I got top 4 in ca with her 
But was long ago 
officer, this guy here
consequences
i couldn't win that round because of that but i couldn't win another round with like 80% chance to win or more 
Priv is justifiable hmm
brings you to me
almost as if CA dictates who wins based on team ordering 
Her stun is good now thanks to SW. But idk if her wipe good enough

it keeps getting worse each time i see this 
Stop commenting
we have enough strong off burst to justify it
Or
Needs a solid 2-3 buffers to actually work as wipe 
But it does good dmg

I trust it would be better when Sugar got her treasure. 
You keep parroting the same "you need 3 TL"
well when you've reached rock bottom, it's hard to get worse
reverted
how many ca did @fathom rock win
is it wrong tho? how else you gonna be accurate 
Sugar is still not treasure so no point. 
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Priv at B seems more approprate.
it is because of SW.
Take down scar to ss 

unreverted
SS... take her down further
If scar is not used, then label is not S
even your stepmom can defeat scarlet nowdays

can still deny fast cindy up to 3rl

I asked ppl to test priv and sw indom before privT news came out and it worked fine.
So, I prepared for it and privT news came out.
was the old TL actually better with nayuta in S
if u wanna to hit someone while you are in deficit and u need a b2 that dosnt die who would you use
Makim-
jk
Don't think so
Also don't you dare say makima
too late
hold up, i thought we weren't talking about situational 
you get people to do it all the time here
else you gonna nuke that tierlist
i would say its more of common practice
final then diesel up to B or not

Not
diesel jesus christ 
was a joke, but if you out deficit you opponent that diesel is urber annoying
fortunately we don't talk situationally
else he gonna need to bring anchorIM to SSS too
fortunately
There is a small priv diff

swha deny a lot of rosana's functions, still SSS?
SWHA is denied by rosanna + jackal, still SSS?
scarlet is denied by Label, still SSS?
Everything has a counter 
u the one that tell me not to rosana jacka onto a swha comp your self
just nuke that tierlist 
def not ss at best
ros + jackal is fine ya silly, it's ros alone that it isn't
Can't 
Won't be most accurate in atk def etc but it'll give good idea of what to invest 
plus who's this you you talking about, i'm zant i'm not you
i know your zant
i'm taking your rocks
SS is fine, move Trina up, though. She is also good with Moran stall.
Now that some stop using Scar slash.
beginners won't even know where to start from based on that tierlist
beginners just cp pad anyway
a lot of people here were against that and said "What? No"
aka aggressive rejection
how many of thous people won ca 3X+
No clue
you gotta wonder who's giving those feedback
surely ppl who play pvp regularly on deficit
idk, invalid baddies opnions dont count
Wdym 
Team-building?
Moran full hp when she burst help her survive longer and potentially stall out the match


so Trina is useless without Moran, so SS is fine
dafuq
trina is still high battery
i can't
She is good with Scarlet as well.
SHE LITERALLY A CLIP RL B2 WITH ATK DMG BUFF
trina is also not defender b2
what are we even talking about here anymore 
but not defender so no biscuit tankiness
some times u dont want defender B2
literally prevent noah from consuming an extra stack
yeah im not sure about her being SSS. SS+ is already very good
I might break my skull in the nearest wall
Yeah, make SS+ tier and put her there.



ill say SS better cus Noah and Blanc are too broken
tierlist evolves
noah without 11CS% and without biscuit?
blanc in p1?
here we go again 
we take turns
@umbral belfry
@tropic summit see i told you
Trina is SS or SSS
Rail this tl ≠ team building 
1/2 SS
New legend after 1/2 Ranma and 1/2 Prince.
SS imo

See
yeah i don't envy whoever is building this tierlist, because he's downright wasting his time
Retro, stop feeding him what he wants to hear
The best way to defend against a bully is to not give them what they want
who's rail
aka your response, so ignoring is better
if you need yes-men to just agree with whatever you say, don't ask opinions
you need to listen to people who actually play pvp
ofcourse
You kept disagreeing without giving any useful thought other than "you need 3 TL", which I already say no
and you still keep parroting that for 2 weeks+
there's no useful thought because it's wrong from the beginning
you're building an house with an hoe instead of an hammer
u asked him at lot first
Then if you don't like it, just stay quiet instead of not being helpful


they loved eachother for 19 pages it apparantlly, now its divorce time
they;re married also bc of your name your rocks are mine
Tbf you could add ⚔️ 🛡️ and 🏆 icons instead of making new tier list. Just like the $ icon.
Hey I reply to @fathom rock more
that's fine i'm taking rocks from zant
but that's you
The thing is the icon will carry Iver to other tls
we're not arguing or hating each others tho, i'm telling downright he's wrong and that's it, he's wasting his precious time 
Not like it change anything in those.
you're not hippo
Clutter 
@swift mango you can't ask for a damn thing because they can't afford customizing sh*t 
i can see why you are confused
it's either half assed TL or that's it
this is gonna get complicated soon 
mods ban everyone in this chat
No I’m Hime

It already has idk why yall hate your name


Good bye Hime, it's good knowing you


Maybe i should make tl for every seperate campaign stage
you're crazy enough to think about it
Nah, just add C1 to c44 icons.
Otherwise it'll be misleading 
i mean, if we actually were to be honest, it's actually true 
some stages do prefer certain units over others
he gonna find every multi hit shield rapture things and forced to rank mg/smg sss
e.g. volleyballs love vestiTU/lib or similar
You wrap up the PvP TL I give up
What you doing when 33-5 = 34-6 = 35-26 = 36-7
@swift mango look what you've done 
YOU MADE KISENIX GIVE UP
Add multiple icons on the same units. 
Oh wow its blood fault now 
I'd like to see the nikke itself
As wide as your Sugar. 
wow
wow
you seeing this @fathom rock
maybe my bad influence is finally spreading to @swift mango 
he had part of my name for less than 24hrs and it's already this bad


so we found out @umbral belfry is a switch @glad meteor
she can do both 
this information will be precious
can i see the latest version 

the leftover is here
@unique wagon if i'mma be honest, u need to rank centi at every stage of her treasure and differently in ca vs not in ca, and on deficit and not on deficit
i thought centi treasure bricked her, why is she still ss 
Just keep the tier list as is. Tbf. There isn't much to talk about.
sir, we don't speak the truth here
what the hell.
the moment i did i was accused of bullying 
I'm in charge now 
This is supposed to be her theoretical preformance without bug with proper heals
I wanna down her but she's bugged 
[rydwen do prydwen things

nice typo
since zant told me its nice ill keep it that way
Her text is bugged.
who's this zant and where can i meet him
just like your-


why tf is Bade even considered
rude
her buff is actually situationally good 
Su say she bugged then not elaborate
also doesn't feed 
What sigh

what's the reason for Bade
also makes her situationally bad, unlike default version
imagine being the one who has to make that tierlist

She also buff atk pre burst
that it?
When?
The same reason for all the buffers here 
@tropic summit just my luck riiight..
crown being there atleast gets a pass
Just like Crown combo buffing Vesti pre burst. Ade could too.
ade buff is preburst?
oh the puny caster atk
S2
you know what else is puny
one of the better b2 options for accounts that lack units, i've used her pre 160 wall i think
not alot though, but fine as buffer

well people who lack units wouldent be looking at tierlist
Yea yea keep laughing....
i mean, you're not seriously gonna take over this TL... right...? 
nah, they always do, especially early on when they want to get as much info as possible on what to even do in this game and who is "better"
.......... I gotta if no one gonna......
god save this man 
if i'mma be honest, Anis burst gen is higher
and u aquire her earlier
anis tanks your CP tho 
lower stats means she can't run safely in p2 or p3 
Small bgen diff, big stat diff
we arn't talkign about situations
stop using uno reverse card 
~~well done ~~

slap level 5 OL and black doll on her like a actual insane whale (not me)
🍾
Scar down to ss + CentiT in shambles what else anyway 
🍷
ask @swift mango he was actually humoring Kise
Rapi in sss
Haha funny :hmmz
Rapi-st
where rapi b1? synergy with life leech steal ada, better than liter b1
i mean...

imagine putting A rank a unit that can literally force you to not run B3 and B2 in p1 unless you hit certain burst gen CS%
or a unit in A that can turn your p1 and p5 into pseudo moran
wild times we live in

oh... who did you want instead? and it can't be isabel 
P1-5
Where is she indeed
Eh is by the use case, she can't go A for obvious reasons and liter is better for wipes still
Probably B would be her fate but the fact she not here means I need to.....


Harran is fine, or guilty 
i knew it 




