pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Yeah if it's spa

[restive heart]

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-lucilfer-chrollo-lucilfer-1999-hxh-gif-6871618917807347989

[marble saddle]

i was like woah 6 mill cp
then i remembered bruh you yourself are 7 mill.
why you getting excited for 1 less mill

[hollow lagoon]

my bracket

huh he changed union

[glad meteor]

Maybe if it could help
moran survive till indom over by activating first bisc s2 later,

[hollow lagoon]

lol he got kicked out of ACEABYSS

[swift mango]

@median flare If you copied this team you may just lose easily like this.

[lunar pawn]

[median flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[swift mango]

What about you?

[glad meteor]

Femboy gone

[lunar pawn]

I died in the prelims

[median flare]

or like this

besti lacks cs

[swift mango]

This is not enough CS.

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

On RH and LapT

[median flare]

it's lapt

[swift mango]

Both of them

[median flare]

yeah, you're right. the difference is just 1-2 smg bullets

anyways, I might get to finals this season, but I’m not betting on the win

[swift mango]

You get the final meaning I don't

[median flare]

at best

[swift mango]

Less talk, more fight. 🤜 🤛

[median flare]

you better win

[lunar pawn]

wait keripo hasn't won a CA season since mid october?

[swift mango]

Idk we may have an offline fight to decide.

[median flare]

I looked through the top bracket and somehow everyone’s built to ruin my day

[swift mango]

I may haven't won since October 2024

[oak hatch]

@gaunt pulsar

People betting on someone who never won ca before

[hollow lagoon]

people bet me and i love to dissapoint

[oak hatch]

same

[swift mango]

We just need to trust the process. @umbral crown

[median flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[swift mango]

Getting Cheer makes me worry.

[lunar pawn]

higher lvl gets more cheers

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-im-come-gif-9804446336365187792

[gaunt pulsar]

early chance to clear the road forward

[swift mango]

Not always

[oak hatch]

they yeeted me to a new bracket somehow

[oak hatch]

Yeah I hope and I guess other people also pray for the zero abuse to stop

[swift mango]

But getting to top 8 was good enough this time. It was unexpected.

[unique wagon]

You are KING

[swift mango]

Just checked, 7 of us, aside from Shanoa, have won CA before.

[median flare]

maybe it's time for Shanoa

[swift mango]

That means you would lose today.

@covert lintel you got to Final once there.

And it was last Season too
You never mentioned it.

[gaunt pulsar]

global has so many that we cannot even see full list of who got Champ frame once, at this rate will have more who won twice than once soon

[swift mango]

There was also a 5th bracket last season

@mystic rain that's why you are seeing new faces.

[swift mango]

That means there isn't enough competition so the same guys keep getting champs.

Or you mean the guys that got shown?

[gaunt pulsar]

there probably alot who won once, but list goes only to 99

yeah those who shown i mean

[placid bloom]

too many bracket

[swift mango]

There are 25 guys who won once in SEA. And 18 guys who won 2 or above.

SEA only has 4 brackets, if a new bracket is created, they merge up.

____$$

So you could actually have more of a chance to be Champ in SEA.

If you started new account there at the begin of a reshuffle. Get to 201 asap in 2 months and open up a new bracket so you could fight bots for 2 seasons.

So actually if you wanna be champed in easily create a new account in SEA now, rush to 200 in 2 months with some arena investment and fight bots

That's the easiest way to get champ once.

If you rushed to 200 in 1 month since the start of a reshuffle, you would be sure to get champ in a bracket alone.

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah there crazy stuff you can do on a new account with money, outpacing everyone is as easy as it can be with so much tools compared to year or two ago

[glad meteor]

Wheling

[gritty ridge]

So I clutched the moran bay

[glad meteor]

A whale in a new bracket should technically just dominate

Their rosa didnt burst or did it go bay

[swift mango]

See new 2 and 1 times champs in the last 3 season in SEA. Can't be easier than that.

[gaunt pulsar]

if they know how to push that is, if they sleep on campaign it will take them a while

[gritty ridge]

Unfortunately, I forgot soda does this

[glad meteor]

Whel and sasuga malder

[swift mango]

Dominate against bots.

[glad meteor]

Yep

And some newbies

[swift mango]

I don't think these guys are whale. Getting newbie champ in SEA is just that easy.

[noble hatch]

Nice looking top 8, 5 of batch 4 are in the top 8 👍

[glad meteor]

sasuga seamen

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

I mean, if you created an account after a reshuffle. It automatically assigned you to a new blank bracket because the other bracket already filled with members, or face holder bots for SpA that doesn't have enough level.

So if you rushed asap to 200 you get to fight box and since SEA has less players, the number of guys rushing to 200 are less and there would be less competition

[lone sequoia]

remember that you play against bots in dead leagues

[swift mango]

Create an account in SEA and rush level now to be a free champ.

[lone sequoia]

need lv200(?)

[swift mango]

Yes

But you need to create new account at the begin of a reshuffle and rush level asap or you won't have the advantage

[lone sequoia]

how many hours?

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Right at the begin of this CA is optimal.

Maybe wait to next reshuffle to do it.

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

In 3 months

For a better golden time

[lone sequoia]

no more alts here

[swift mango]

Ofc pray to RNG god you get 5 MLB in 5-6 weeks

[lone sequoia]

i gave my pvp alt to a friend and i didn't log again in the SEA solo raid extra accounts

[swift mango]

Well, because you can't get high rank you gave up

[lone sequoia]

it was easy to keep a high rank in the alt, the problem was CA, like 15+ gemmers at the same time after the "top 4" play and the whale in that bracket target me because he couldn't beat the others with his CP gap comps (other high sync players in that bracket)

CA killed my motivation to play pvp

[swift mango]

Yeah, 4 above are high rank. 5 below are low rank.

[lone sequoia]

sleeping in c2-c3

at the time not sure what rank is that account now

[valid inlet]

@wild hemlock It's going to be rough here from top 8. Beside me, there are Eon, dpx, Radeki, KZ, how's your life in the higher bracket

[swift mango]

SEA doesn't have that much whale. Perchance you started during Anni. Or just level brick.

SEA guys does gem a lot even as F2P though

[lone sequoia]

it was NA, the SEA alts were to boost a bit the player count for solo raid

[swift mango]

[lone sequoia]

main NA account is from day1, alt NA account was from xmas same year

[swift mango]

You started on Xmas, that's why.

[lone sequoia]

campaign+pvp account, no solo raid

[swift mango]

Xmas, new year, Anni, full of whale

[lone sequoia]

that was the best moment to start the game, i can say it as day 1 player... the problem is CA and how SU doesn't know how to balance sh-t

the next point was during cindy banner...

[swift mango]

Just the worst moment to start Arena account.

[lone sequoia]

imagine, at that time we didn't have reshuffle, first reshuffle and the gems in the game dropped a lot

[swift mango]

Well, you could still be lucky and get to a bracket without whale during Christmas or Anni but chance are, you don't.

And reshuffle would move whale around anyway

[lone sequoia]

you are lucky or you don't

[swift mango]

More people, more whale, more chance of getting stuck with the few whales if you are unlucky

[lone sequoia]

it is boring to see these new meta teams that keep the same synergy and don't change compared to the old version+one of the cn guys i attack change his DEF every day or rotate, i still can get the 3 wins

[swift mango]

@coarse lake congrats

[swift mango]

Only CA meta is moving at somewhat reasonable speed. SpA meta doesn't change much.

[lone sequoia]

most of the CA teams are old teams, the newest addition was indom swha... and probably vesti/bay because units+treasure

[onyx scaffold]

me -1000 today

[lone sequoia]

now people will shift to moran/biscuit again, because moran get more dmg

[swift mango]

Nero out of meta
Moran Bay was meta for awhile.
Vesti absolute
Noise linked Bay became meta
5rl slow Cindy almost out of meta.

Meta change, you just don't know it.

[lone sequoia]

meta is cyclical... next time will be priv/sanis again

[swift mango]

ASS will be ASS until we have ASS alt.

[lone sequoia]

i hope we reach the day bay/scar get a new stall buffer

[cedar sorrel]

Are any of you guys involved with prydwen pvp tier list and know when itll be updated?

[swift mango]

@unique wagon

[lone sequoia]

or if they fix centi treasure, the heal+shield should work with bay

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[lone sequoia]

i don't use that thing

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-angel-ange-orange-gif-5468331840099331877

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I think atp its quite outdated

[umbral crown]

[cedar sorrel]

But I use it for general ideas so I know who's decent kinda deal

[lone sequoia]

i mean, i play the game so i don't use tier list because i like to test units/comps

[swift mango]

New players needs tier list to get acquaintance with the game

[cedar sorrel]

I play the game too but have extremely limited resources so don't wanna waste stuff lol

[lone sequoia]

the path of the f2p

[umbral crown]

[cedar sorrel]

Yup. Its been fine tho top 15 spa top 3 rookie could be worse

[hollow lagoon]

New players needs to:
listen @tropic summit
and
avoid @hollow lagoon

[lone sequoia]

you will have to wait for your neko-femboy of prydwen

[cedar sorrel]

I need more of my pvp units built tho for spa so I xan have 3 solid comps

[cedar sorrel]

Yea rail has been very helpful

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Self burnt

[cedar sorrel]

Devilish too

But in general this chats pretty cool

[tropic summit]

cursed cooking best cooking

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-salem-cauldron-gif-15394565

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-yuji-itadori-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-yuji-stare-meme-gif-2566228405341525362

[umbral crown]

I can confirm

[hollow lagoon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1436185330880352308/RDT_20250912_222047114482284512953402.gif

[swift mango]

Guy getting bored and decided to hit me. Maybe time to be 561

[glad meteor]

Evil blood

[swift mango]

Middle of season people started to stop fighting for top 3

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-nelson-the-simpsons-gif-14411011

[lone sequoia]

sword dp'

[tropic summit]

is that weakness i smell? giving up already making defenses and just opting for padding eh?

[umbral crown]

You all wanna keep bricking by not using boxes

[glad meteor]

.

[swift mango]

Well... No reason to not.

[tropic summit]

cook defenses first, season is ending soon he won't catch up

[swift mango]

Lemme hit my c1 then.

[swift mango]

He is c3 he doesn't need to catch up

[umbral crown]

Cook issues

[swift mango]

Middle of season no one attacking him anymore so he started attacking me

[swift mango]

Oh right I should test Privaty now that you make me remember

[tropic summit]

[coarse solstice]

Been a minute chat, let's see how cooked I am

[swift mango]

@hollow lagoon Cup is more a whale than you

[umbral crown]

The real centi brick is it makes units hit like vesti or emilia, P1-P3

[swift mango]

My team is 2rl so it doesn't matter

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

I know

[glad meteor]

Maybe he wants enemy to burst faster

[tropic summit]

with that lineup? nope, he got bricked and doesn't know yet

typical case of whale who doesn't need to play pvp and will never find out because they're winning by gap

[glad meteor]

Tbf. I dont think centi shield makes that much difference to burst gen. Most teams are already fixed to what gen they’re going to be

[tropic summit]

it does on SP arena

you can actively abuse that

CA is just RNG with added higher losing ratio because you may promote someone to 1.5RL

[glad meteor]

but its not hard to make 2rl team in sp arena now

[tropic summit]

you sure you wanna help opponents be 1.5RL?

[glad meteor]

Would need giga cs or helmt snow there in that scar jackal

[umbral crown]

Gonan share the video tonight

[glad meteor]

I dont think they can b3 before my 2rl b2 hopefully

But im not pvp go0n

[tropic summit]

not so hard with minimun feed against multiple feed

[glad meteor]

I wouldnt sr15 centi anyway

[tropic summit]

add emilia/laplaceT or 1 more clip and you go higher

[glad meteor]

That team is kinda just speed scar though

[tropic summit]

vestiTU included

[tropic summit]

ye but that's the point, 1.5RL and your B2 isn't up yet

[umbral crown]

Then you add cs

[glad meteor]

My b2 will go off surely right

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Tbf, i cant use centi in sp, need tech chars

Need buffers like ada or survivability

Jackal vesti ada blanc lapt
Moran noah bisc helmt snow

Dk what t3 to run though

[tropic summit]

stuff with rosanna and nayuta to force a noah or a jackal

[umbral crown]

Helm twice

[glad meteor]

Manga lap+

[wild hemlock]

[umbral crown]

Go run peaksolute

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

Loss-solute?

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

you've to understand, if normal plebs are to run that, they walk into indom or biscuit

[tropic summit]

you had a job rosie

why is it all chinnits again

i thought i'd be playing on global not CN

can't even bet on you anymore

https://klipy.com/gifs/disappointment-disappointed-WXb

[shell hazel]

I don't see Rosy vs asia here

[tropic summit]

RNG decided he'd get 4 teams countered out of 5

still needs to work on his team ordering skills

[shell hazel]

rookie mistake

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/toradora-taiga-aBN

[umbral crown]

Cuz you know

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Skill issues

[wild hemlock]

Think I've been the losing vote almost every single match so far I don't think they like me

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit can you teach me, I dont understand how I lost my CA match

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[tropic summit]

yes, it appears you lost

[swift mango]

12 rocks spent today for nothing

[covert lintel]

but near end of list

[gritty ridge]

Thank you rail

I won this matchup but lost to slow scar

Im so confused

[tropic summit]

vesti died very early here

[glad meteor]

100% crit

[swift mango]

Noise Noah stun then scarlet slash wtf you don't understand.

[tropic summit]

meanwhile here you likely got stunned before you could do damage

[gritty ridge]

Theyre 2.5rl at best.

I should've vesti nuked before scar

I have backup b1 and b2, the stun wouldnt stop me from bursting

[swift mango]

They are 2rl with feed, scar counter and quantum.

You on the other hand, need Vesti 21% CS for 2rl

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-ahhh

[swift mango]

Like just record a video and you would know immediately

[tropic summit]

don't worry it's CA, nothing makes sense

forget about that mode and play something fun and not RNG based

[swift mango]

You could also lose if deficit.

If spa

[gritty ridge]

Deficit?!

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

in fact CA it's just a rock sink, the less you invest for it the better

[swift mango]

If CA just record

[glad meteor]

Watch vid

[swift mango]

It's 2rl easily for scarlet team

[tropic summit]

vestiTU got stunned

no more B3, scar bursts, wiperoni, go home

[swift mango]

Also, even if it's not 2rl. Since you are also not 2rl, unless 21% Vesti, Soda would stun Noah before she burst.

[tropic summit]

what are the odds that the 2 taunters didn't get both stunned and it randomly hits vesti tho

[swift mango]

Nah

0%

[tropic summit]

he has CS% on vestiTU to hit 2RL no?

if opponent has CS% although it changes things

[swift mango]

21%? Dream on.

[fast nest]

Scarlet reflection + jackal burst gen + quantum cubes may be able to let them 2RL.

[gritty ridge]

Idk where youre getting 21% from, even at 5% id be 2.1rl

[swift mango]

Even if it's 2rl. Scarlet team also 2rl with feed and counter and quantum

[tropic summit]

record video and you'll find out either way

there's also the fact that vestiTU is delayed over scarlet instant i guess

since he's bursting with centi, no anti nuke

[fast nest]

20 ×0.135 + 3.55×2×1.0466=10.130

Then one more cube on trina will make 2rl

[swift mango]

This team only needs scarlet to counter 4 times to be 2rl.

[tropic summit]

assuming soda linked he gets feed in p1 and p2 + scarlet counters
minimun feed is 3.55% x2 he's 97-98% away and only needs 0.30x6 counters?

[swift mango]

This team only need scarlet to counter once

[fast nest]

Cube on jackal and trina

[swift mango]

Jackal with cube is 3.71 on s1

[tropic summit]

oh alright that's where you get 4 counters from

yeah sounds reasonable

[swift mango]

[fast nest]

Additional 11.4 gen. 88.8+11.4=100.2

[swift mango]

It's more than easy enough to be 2rl

[tropic summit]

just like your sister

[swift mango]

So just like you.

[tropic summit]

i'm not your sister, i'm your step-sibling

[swift mango]

Step-sis

[tropic summit]

you wish

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Also, scarlet 1 hit is 0.4

[tropic summit]

you're good at maths

comes with being asian

[swift mango]

I was

[restive heart]

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

oh? why stopped

could've become a professor

[swift mango]

Idk things happened

[tropic summit]

blood's flashback arc

[swift mango]

Oh wait scarlet is 0.45 a hit according to nikke.deck now

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

It weird. I remember she was 21 bullet at 2rl but it's 26 now. 11.7/26=0.45

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

@lusty gull did you already take into account counters for scarlet gen at 2rl or not?

Probably not. And my memory is just bad

[swift mango]

[lunar pawn]

I need to buy a small table for that doro figure

or some kind of platform

no clue where to find one

I got mine resting on her own box lol

[torn obsidian]

ofc not counter is by chance

26*0.45 = 11.7%

[lusty gull]

only hit

i think you remember the old data

[strong mulch]

guys whats privaty treasure team line up for pvp?

[swift mango]

Yeah, probably.

Need to update one of my comment I guess.

[swift mango]

We currently don't really have a meta team line up for Privaty.

Just use her like ReiT if you wanted.

Try

Jackal+Privaty+Blanc+Centi+SW/LapT

[strong mulch]

i already treasure my centi.. is there a way to untreasure the treasure effect?

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-pay-respect-coffin-burial-gif-12855021

You can help us test her out though

[swift mango]

No. But don't upgrade her to phase 2 if possible but even if you upgraded to phase 2 it nothing that bad

[spiral onyx]

See what that bug noticed meant and if they change anything

[lone sequoia]

time to run bayT/centiT

[strong mulch]

now she in the phase 2

[swift mango]

Change Centi 5% HP on burst to 5000%.

Now we have a better nero

[spiral onyx]

With how the current meta works, that probably wouldn't do anything

Unless it allows for overheal

[swift mango]

She won't die at least.

And 500% HP shield every 5s is huge

Make her burst skill last 3 minutes too.

Now we have real immortal

[fast nest]

wow

is it good?

[strong mulch]

good for atk bad for def i guess

[covert lintel]

Nice, She could speed up slow Cindy

[lusty gull]

it's about her heal, she only heal when her self shield is break or disapear, that mean no heal when the others shields are break

[strong mulch]

My current centi hp is 12880464.. so 7% is like how much shield actually?

[swift mango]

Wtf?

[lusty gull]

you want i share some replay to see yourself ?

[strong mulch]

please share i need some idea for def pos team also

[swift mango]

You mean if other units shield break she won't heal them? Then the treasure can't be more trash.

[fast nest]

oh you mean whenever shield, regardless of whose shield, is broken, hp is healed?

[gaunt pulsar]

only shield she applies herself, not other units, if you have someone else apply shield and break she wont heal

[fast nest]

but almost all the burst and launcher bypass shield.

[swift mango]

Isn't that obvious?

[gaunt pulsar]

dunno, baron asked

[lusty gull]

heal

[fast nest]

I remember this notice was related to that skill. I wonder if this was fixed ornot.

[lusty gull]

no heal

notice that laplace shield is break, no reason except if it's normal that any rl hit p3 shield

[fast nest]

Ah. that one. I also saw p3 label's shield was broken by launchers hitting p1.
It looks it is an intended feature.

[lusty gull]

yes same with label

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/4ret_cHjeKg?si=PQoxNpNA8p9D4YFH

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

So basically this comment. Centi treasure can't be more trash huh?

[lusty gull]

they will fix that most likely

[swift mango]

Fix the text.

[lusty gull]

maybe

[swift mango]

@unique wagon

Time to make Centi non treasure SS. And CentiT phase 2+ S. And add F-SU next to her treasure.

[lusty gull]

many people complain about burst generation trade, but it's not that important

[swift mango]

Like wtf, only heal if the shield on herself break? What kind of joke is that?

[lusty gull]

the real problem is the misleading description

[swift mango]

This is the worst treasure ever created

[lusty gull]

if they fix the heal, she will be really strong

[swift mango]

If I met SU CEO on the street I would wear a mask and punch hit face.

[swift mango]

They said they would fix the text

[covert lintel]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Even if she heal when other units shield break she would still be mid.

But now she is just worse

This is the first time in a game that a legacy upgrade for an old unit making it shit.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-alter-the-deal-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-gif-15971205

[swift mango]

You mean Centi would heal x3/5 on everyone at the same time when the shields broken by Vest/SW? It sound good but still mostly overheal.

Ofc SU won't give us that

[lusty gull]

that's what the description means

[swift mango]

But the notice said they would fix the text.

[lusty gull]

they said the effects and the description are different

they can fix effects or description

[swift mango]

When I first read it, I imagined one shield break, the unit of that shield got healed. But oh well. Turning out it was worse.

[swift mango]

I see

Thanks

[runic spear]

how do I counter this?

[swift mango]

Soda to stun Noah then wipe with Cindy.

Same team but SW instead of vesti

[runic spear]

what's this first comp looks like?

[swift mango]

Soda+Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+Jackal

It requires their Moran to be not linked. So maybe not.

[tropic summit]

easier solution, kill their vestiTU pre burst

[swift mango]

You could try Rosa+Emi+SW combo I Guess

[tropic summit]

or can also kill noah with p4 vestiTU and out trade

[swift mango]

Biscuit

[tropic summit]

i don't think everyone have invested soda

[unkempt crystal]

Is this team whack? My other two teams are the top SWHA and VestiTU teams from the pinned post.

[runic spear]

making Soda usable isn't much of an issue especially when I have core 6

[tropic summit]

this one is too slow, also scarlet is powercrept

[unkempt crystal]

Don’t really know who else to use on D since they all want the same units.

[swift mango]

Yes it is

Biscuit serve almost no purpose there.

[tropic summit]

i'd say take the cheap way out and out-trade with SWHA, you'll lethal on 2nd nuke

noah biscuit rapunzel swha helmt

that way you don't need to bet on a poorly built soda

[runic spear]

[tropic summit]

should also all be invested units

[unkempt crystal]

Any recs on a good Liberalio team that doesn’t use Jackal, Rumani, Noah or Moran lol?

[tropic summit]

on defense? you don't run main B3 lib on defense

can run her offburst or as battery tho

[runic spear]

most of the pvp Nikke I have are fairly invested in
I bricked my Centi though cause my brain auto piloted on the equip

[unkempt crystal]

Ah word. Okay I’ll do more research.

[unkempt crystal]

Same dawg

[runic spear]

story was nice

[tropic summit]

what do your other 2 teams look like? maybe we can give you a few tips

[swift mango]

When you fight record it so we know which 2 units are linked

[tropic summit]

or he can test that in shooting range

[swift mango]

I mean the enemy team

[tropic summit]

i'd split helmT from SWHA, also T1 you've too much batteries

@unkempt crystal

T1 in specific assuming quantums and CS%

drakeT is any clip SG burst gen tier you've invested, xmaiden is also fine

liberalio in T3 is also flex spot, fit w/e can contribute good DPS

[swift mango]

Could try

Cindy+Rumani+Nayuta+Biscuit+Midhara

[agile mulch]

Is it considered bad manners to sandbag your defensive team in PVP rookie arena so it's combat power is purposefully low? Then people will always win against you, keeping your rank low, allowing you to win all your daily battles.

[runic spear]

it works

[swift mango]

Yeah, SW is the way

[oblique igloo]

Who can I replace centi with now that she's bricked

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit
translates into

[oblique igloo]

I'm trying liberalio with cs cube + 9% cs OL

[lunar pawn]

Do I sweep or get sweeped?

[tropic summit]

he's honest at least

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

I feel like t3 with emi is somewhat abusable

emi as main nuker you want noah -1RL right?

[tropic summit]

moran is ridicolous as always

[shell hazel]

doppel you can beat the scar with any sensible anti-nuke like bay, and t3 I think you can just run similar but slightly slower and a better nuker than emi

Rail I got a bit closer with some OL but will need more levels I think, still was my best try yet, I got this fight logic down is just dps now

I gave rapi some +5

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit thoughts on this for rookie?

[tropic summit]

run dis

cindy in p3, might aswell abuse it

would be a shame if you used 2 units that hit p3

would also be a shame if blanc happens to be p1 against siren

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

dead to

noah biscuit flex swha helmt

but not a bad team per se, can also struggle against indom

give it a shot

[gritty ridge]

My idea was to rosa/siren proof

[shell hazel]

be careful running super hype rookie teams your opponents will copy you gg

[tropic summit]

sort of is

[shell hazel]

any b1 at 2RL p1 is siren proof

your noah can still taunt even at p5 though

[gritty ridge]

With moran noah, p1/p2 siren stuns noah

[tropic summit]

if somehow they manage to keep siren alive in p2 you still get noah stunned unless 11%CS team wide

they'd take a good risk tho running wind code in p2 against vesti anyhow

[gritty ridge]

I figured with vesti+snow+x.maid anything in p2 is dead

[shell hazel]

bigboi what OL lines do I want for mirandaT?

[gritty ridge]

I can just mirror and win, my rookie isnt as invested as me

[shell hazel]

as her husbant I assume you know

[gritty ridge]

Miranda dont care abt lines

If you really want to, atk/ele

[shell hazel]

what you're saying is miranda is a honeybadger?

[gritty ridge]

Hwat

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/honey-badger-no-shit-gif-11346317

[tropic summit]

what you're saying is miranda just a cheerleader?

miranda carry, atk% ele%

[gritty ridge]

Shes not a dmg dealer so lines dont matter

She can do some dmg if you p3 her

[tropic summit]

that's what casuals would say

[shell hazel]

but as her husbant surely you want her best lines?

I agree with Rail, this is casual talk

[tropic summit]

exactly, you call yourself a husband? @gritty ridge

[gritty ridge]

Her ideal lines would be standard atk/ele/ammo

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[lunar pawn]

Double jackal?

[gritty ridge]

If youre rolling lines tho, make her full 10/10/10

[tropic summit]

miranda should be on top of your box, best invested unit

[gritty ridge]

Shes close to my strongest b1

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-twin-matrix-gif-12594344

[gritty ridge]

I use her alot now

[tropic summit]

pick one of the two

w/e you're not gapped on

[lunar pawn]

One of the 2 jackals?

Jk

[tropic summit]

here 3 teams if u wanna

[gritty ridge]

@shell hazel standard miranda is 4 10 10, if youre rolling atk lines then you can 10 10 10

[shell hazel]

mine is 1/10/9 atm :9

[gritty ridge]

Skill 1 is all abt her personal dmg

[shell hazel]

but am not husbant

[tropic summit]

who's your most invested unit

show us who you betraying your waifu for

[gritty ridge]

If you mean invested as in ideal lines, then vesti

[tropic summit]

no, top of the list, CP wise

[shell hazel]

show sorted by power

[gritty ridge]

Ohh, helm

[tropic summit]

ok that's forgivable.

good choice.

10/10 would join her in her bathtube.

[shell hazel]

same!

and it's not even that close

she is 10k ahead of rapi lol

[tropic summit]

mine enjoys breaking windows

[lunar pawn]

I do enjoy sweeps

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/laplace-nikke

[gritty ridge]

Ive got a weird power list

[shell hazel]

I just stepped away but I was going to send that when I got back 😮

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/laplace-burst-nikke

[covert lintel]

According to nikketop lib will be different when she reaches 21 cs, if not don't bother it

[oblique igloo]

21%????????

[tropic summit]

ye everyone has 21%CS on lib

ask @swift mango he got 24%CS on lib

[oblique igloo]

That's like 4 blue cs

I accept the challenge

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/finger-up-then-down-excuse-me

[oblique igloo]

Torso will be annoying but such is the way

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit
should i use this team? since i assuming my HelmT Lifesteal can out last Scar?

[oblique igloo]

Should I go for 4 cs lines + resilience + privaty/ crown or 3cs + adjutant + nayuta/velvet tho

[tropic summit]

remove that jackal, you don't want biscuit stacks to go on anyone else but noah

[marble saddle]

will my noah manage to stay alive without her?

[tropic summit]

add a laplaceT or emilia or trina

[tropic summit]

dafuq you think you've biscuit for?

[lone sequoia]

swha

[swift mango]

It has been around 200 rocks since I last seen a blue line.

[marble saddle]

oh sorry you said jackal

[swift mango]

Too blue for me

[lone sequoia]

wait, too much feed to enemy scar

[tropic summit]

swha actually sucides on scarlet on deficit

laplace/emi/trina are the safer choices

[lone sequoia]

is that deficit?

[covert lintel]

Use moran and rapun instead

[tropic summit]

nah RH is fine, more atk%, more lifesteal

he wants to nuke link asap

[marble saddle]

i have no idea what bro is doing at this point

[tropic summit]

he's testing

[drifting jasper]

Evening all! Does this look vaguely winnable, or am I way off here? I won with something similar before but I think his teams are slightly different now Cheers!

[lone sequoia]

48 vs 50 team value... whale fights

[marble saddle]

i hope so cause im just using the same team but changing their positions

[swift mango]

Rail, cook me a blue line OL.

[covert lintel]

In my case it still gets wiped using rh

[tropic summit]

pick whichever

[tidal lichen]

do u have a label with high level s2

[tidal lichen]

[drifting jasper]

Unfortunately not. Haven't had chance to invest her yet.

[swift mango]

[tidal lichen]

is your rosanna built

enough to kill swha

[lone sequoia]

can you show me your CA teams?

[drifting jasper]

Very, +50% atk

[covert lintel]

#pvp-arena message if rh fail try this

[marble saddle]

why would it fail. im not deficit

[marble saddle]

mine??? are you sure you pinged the correct person???

[lone sequoia]

yep, to check cp

[tropic summit]

assemble these and show CP

[marble saddle]

lemme finish Rookie runs first then

[tidal lichen]

i doubt trina survives on t3

[tropic summit]

she's getting sacc'ed no problemo

[tidal lichen]

nvm i didnt see nayuta

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dog-dog-glasses-1

[drifting jasper]

Thanks RT, I'll give it a try. My Lib, Vesti, Maiden and Nayuta aren't perfectly built in terms of OL lines, but I'll see if it's enough! 👍

[tropic summit]

hence why i asked show CP, don't run them

if you're on deficit we then commit to 2 teams

[marble saddle]

@lone sequoia how do you show CA teams when you arent even in CA?

[lone sequoia]

rip... then try some pvp teams in AI with correct cubes+ your 2 highest cp units of that team

[marble saddle]

i havent been in CA for 2 seasons now

[lone sequoia]

something like this, or your old CA teams if you have a ss

[glad meteor]

🐧

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

is to know what cp from OL i should aim, like at 643 i need lb0 units higher than 420k cp (643 sync) and or +165k at lv400

[lone sequoia]

ty

[marble saddle]

welcome. but just fyi my OL stats are horrid

[tropic summit]

oh CP looks nice although i'm concerned for blanc

just fix T2 into

jackal vestiTU blanc centi laplaceT

[lone sequoia]

so in average i should aim to +165k each unit; cp boost is also a strat

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

rest should be fine, give it a shot

blanc with tempering for extra measure

[drifting jasper]

Great, thanks RT, I shall give it a shot

[marble saddle]

well just to get the cp boost strat across to you
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1465031639808868565/20260125-1711-11.1003491.mp4?ex=6995f309&is=6994a189&hm=312a5ecbf6404663349f8b76f3b885443121207a31264c330817fe60162fb026&||

[glad meteor]

10-10-10 sanis

[marble saddle]

i think there are MUCH WORSE choices than Sanis in there

[lone sequoia]

full10 jackal club

[marble saddle]

also thats at least 2 months old vid by now my lib and a few others have joined the 10/10/10 club

[lone sequoia]

my lib is at 7s, i hate her

[lunar pawn]

I hate her too but she's 101010 for me

[lone sequoia]

my smary is 7/10/8

[gaunt viper]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

@swift mango

thanks for sharing

[glad meteor]

[drifting jasper]

T1 and T2 wins, T3 loss, but overall win. Ty for the help!

[tropic summit]

T3 was kinda throwaway, good job

[signal hull]

When is next arena reshuffle's gonna happen? I'm sick of those two lunatics who keep throwing gems out just to beat me -.-

[shell hazel]

something about 2 months away

[signal hull]

RIP...

[shell hazel]

RIP

[swift mango]

gimme 400. Rocks first

[tropic summit]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fEoI8ThYPsQ?feature=share

forget rocks and come play this already

[tidal lichen]

try noah bisc lib lapt rumani
jack vest blanc xmaiden ada
noise centi helm swha trina
next time

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[lone sequoia]

rat?

[tropic summit]

might've something personal against you, probably ticked off you winning

weak ego and pvp arena in nikke are a wild combo

[lone sequoia]

don't forget money

[warm monolith]

Yo @tropic summit my def core dust was 92 an hour avrg, but after i cleared the latest chapters it jumped up to 102, did i miss something?

[tropic summit]

102 point comes earlier since new chapters released

[gaunt pulsar]

https://nikkeoutpost.netlify.app/ can check here if you miss any fights anywhere, top right corner for "en"

[warm monolith]

I mean like the core dust avrg an hour was 92,but after i completely clear the newest two chapters it jumped to 102, a lot that i didnt expect

[gaunt pulsar]

yes, there is a jump like that, it's normal

[warm monolith]

Also rail, i secured my place in top 4, no one beats me now

[tropic summit]

the results of your efforts

[warm monolith]

Oh okay, thanks

I kinda wanna go for ca but the top 3 whales are insane. Like, wdym 2nd guy still has almost twice as cp as me

[gaunt pulsar]

you need to be in top 4 for ca, in points

top 3 is for 3000 gems and bragging rights*

[warm monolith]

Yeah i know but i secured my place after some time that season started so i doubt ill be the 4th guy, but after this season i have a bigger chance(also theres some guys beat me but its actually starting to be rarely)

[gaunt pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230299568063647784/1445331208203403377/ezgif.com-speed.webp

[warm monolith]

Rail carried fr

But i kinda can secure my place if i win against the top 3 whales

@tropic summit no matter the team itll probbly be in deficit

[placid breach]

well didnt read post until too late, i brick my centi, what to do to replace? or rework my entire team x.x

[tropic summit]

hmm

[warm monolith]

Just say no lol

[tropic summit]

one of them is doable... the problem is the other 2 on deficit

[tropic summit]

show CP of helmt swha blanc bay rh

[tidal lichen]

thougts on
jack blanc vesti ada thelm to enemy soda noah
rumani xmaiden nayuta bisc mihara to enemy rosanna

wait nvm

[warm monolith]

You mean t3? I tried and noah/biscuit/cindy/thelm/rumani fails, might win if replace cindy with vestitu tho (i also maxed out my SR vestitu and it give her some hp and now tlap needs to run vigor to not steal the blanc indom)

[tropic summit]

T3 is easy, show CP with the team i told you

your first problem is solving T1 or T2

[warm monolith]

1.111mil

[tidal lichen]

2 not really possible i think

[tropic summit]

you're in range what you talking about

[tidal lichen]

maybe can snipe with helm but ada still bursts

[warm monolith]

Wait fr?

[tropic summit]

it's minor deficit, at least you can give it a shot

[warm monolith]

Though need to touch on cubes too

[tropic summit]

post your box we need the full picture

as you can't spend both swha and helmt realistically here

[warm monolith]

Herehttps://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

for once your bay can shine here

[warm monolith]

Wdym 'for once'

She is always shining

To me ofc

[tropic summit]

yeah maybe this can be punished

[tidal lichen]

its helmable but ada still bursts after the nuke

[glad meteor]

New infopic rail

[tidal lichen]

happened to me today.

[tropic summit]

for starters show CP with this

[glad meteor]

was there 3 attackers in the team

[gaunt pulsar]

cindy is kinda missleading

[tropic summit]

another walkable path is to indom against their T1 after denying noah with siren, assuming they don't have the CS% although it's ugly with both helmt and SWHA

[glad meteor]

Prob too complicated to make her make sense there

[tropic summit]

what's this

tierlist of sort?

[glad meteor]

Frame count for abilities

[gaunt pulsar]

frame delay on 30 fps for skills and bursts

[warm monolith]

T2 1.054mil
T3 1.075mil

[gaunt pulsar]

for nikke top it's x2

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[glad meteor]

Moran op noise poop

[tropic summit]

T2 needs 1151k
T3 needs 1121k

T3 can afford the deficit i guess

T2 kinda would like to push it outside of deficit

[warm monolith]

Yea, i aint getting that. I mean, i already got over 1 mil cps now. But it was kinda of an overkill. Thanks for the efforts tho

[warm monolith]

Nayuta the least cp

[tropic summit]

nah we're not done

you can probably beat this guy

[glad meteor]

Yeah, unlinked ada, only lap vesti killed by helm

[tropic summit]

thing is, not on the first try because i need info

[tidal lichen]

i think i actually win that if she doesnt crit on noise

[rugged wyvern]

any suggestions for SP comps using moran (not including rumani,bisc,noah,thelm,cindy) (and no emilia)

[warm monolith]

If you can beat this guy im giving you clay

[warm monolith]

I have two tries still, and afford more

[glad meteor]

Xmaiden is defender. So ada will die there, xmaiden can get indom

[tropic summit]

nah 1 try is enough, run this and record

From T1 we find out if he's siren resistance, other 2 teams are actually trying to win but let's see

oh and move rosanna in p5

sbs nayuta helmt vestiTU ros

gonna protect her cloak from p2 splash after SBS gets sacc'ed

tempering on helmt and vestiTU

in T3, tempering on jackal

rest you can run highest lvl cubes

[warm monolith]

Oke btw t1 1.115mil.

[tropic summit]

ye it's fine, just need siren to live to 2RL B2, we find out if noah is stunnable

[tidal lichen]

i highly doubt that maiden is linked btw, no max doll on maiden and max doll on ada

maybe just send snipers and shift indom?

[warm monolith]

Okee, lets go

[tropic summit]

you want to force misindom? not a bad idea in case

if anything his snipers are all high CP

[tidal lichen]

where rh

[opaque sage]

Recommendations please:

• Your order of priority for tanky B1s for PvP to make 5 teams?
• And for B2 tankers or supports?
  TIA

[tropic summit]

right below

[tropic summit]

B2 noah blanc biscuit trina nayuta
B1 jackal moran noise rumani

[rugged wyvern]

tlapace tdrake pretty low cp as well

[opaque sage]

5th B1?
And is one copy enough or should any be LB3 or c7?

[tropic summit]

moran siren swha vestiTU/laplaceT anchorIM/trina/bay

[tropic summit]

extra copies do help, but even on single copy each of those units is good enough
as for 5th B1, rapunzel is also good to have

[opaque sage]

Many thanks

[tidal lichen]

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit had to clip a bunch, sorry

[opaque sage]

Mana worth a place in the 5 teams?

[tidal lichen]

soda stunning siren on the test run is kinda diabolical

[tropic summit]

was thinking the same

[tropic summit]

nero moran team can still run her

[tidal lichen]

dont see any cs on noah, she matches naga

[tropic summit]

if anything we know SBS will die as fast in p2, which can save p4

[mystic rain]

lol mister grass lost top32

wwww

[tropic summit]

so either commit to the sniper strat in T2 or stun strat in T1

we can probably get out of deficit with sniper team

[tidal lichen]

actually idk maybe she has cs

[tropic summit]

show CP with this next

might need to remove one of the snipers to avoid lethal'ing xmaiden ironically

gotta account for nayuta landing B2 before enemy blanc aswell

unless we go for the blanc kill route actually

nayuta + vestiTU + RH + paddin' could take care of her

at that point even easier than estimating xmaiden HP

[warm monolith]

T2 1.067mil
T3 1.062mil i need more cp tbh

[tropic summit]

not even out of deficit

alrighty we going on deficit in T3 and trying to get out of T2

[warm monolith]

I told you, the top 3 whales are real

[valid inlet]

Maybe they just don't know you yet, good luck with ur new life there, maybe we will meet again few months later

[tropic summit]

CP with this next

[warm monolith]

T2 1.142mil
T3 976k

[tropic summit]

yeah you're cooked, still in deficit in T2

those are your highest CP units still can't reach

let's try one more time with minor deficit

[warm monolith]

Ok, it was more like an if you can tbh. It was kinda impossible tho

[tropic summit]

if this T2 works you've a chance, else let's give up, give it a shot

[wild hemlock]

Honestly surprised I'm even top 8 after going 2-1 in group stage, not too sure I win my next match though might be a lose

[warm monolith]

T2 1.061mil
T3 976k my nayuta has a bit less cp

Lets just give up

Thanks for your efforts man

[tropic summit]

run it for science, T2 has a remote chance

once T2 clears, T3 is easier to fix

[warm monolith]

Oke

[tropic summit]

record it

[warm monolith]

Dang it was worth recording

[tropic summit]

i don't give you teams that have no chance at all

show the 🍿

[warm monolith]

Yeah, one sec

It was kinda good @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

T2 is kinda there, need a little push in either CP or atk% on vestiTU/nayuta

T3 needs more CP nothing to do there

thanks for sharing

[warm monolith]

No problem thanks for your efforts man theres over 80 lvl diff and you cook. I need to build my nayuta better lol, good night

[tidal lichen]

ok my turn now, how do i attack this guy

[tropic summit]

48% deficit is unclearable i think

best i've seen is 36% with vestiTU/liberalio

[tidal lichen]

[raven plover]

100 levels :xdd:

[glad meteor]

💳

[slate falcon]

Do I stand a chance?

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

glass cannon against noah + biscuit archetype? kinda ded

the moment your shield is down SWHA wipes p1 p2 p3 p5

3 fire codes against SWHA is also kinda sucide

[slate falcon]

How about now?

[tropic summit]

oh indom would work nicely

fix positioning to ensure SWHA is indommed tho

jackal swha blanc xmaiden helmt

problem: your jackal isn't dolled and doesn't seem invested

to run indom you need jackal and linked unit to have higher HP than your target indom unit

[slate falcon]

My Jackal is not interested so she might get the idom instead of SW

[tropic summit]

yep

you can try biscuit+blanc indom instead i guess

blanc swha biscuit helmt rh

[slate falcon]

If only I had a biscuit

[tropic summit]

oof

moran swha helmt blanc drakeT then

[slate falcon]

Without a biscuit I’m kinda limited to what I can do

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

try this one #pvp-arena message

[tidal lichen]

[tropic summit]

give vigor to moran

[tropic summit]

she looks just like my emilia

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-1748499123257475241

[slate falcon]

I won, now I need build more characters to fight his t3

[slate falcon]

His t3 easy I’m just un-invested

[slate falcon]

Ty though

[tropic summit]

you'll get them, keep building up

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll defeat rail one day

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-cute-315

[hollow lagoon]

Is that my sister?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tomodachi-no-imouto-ga-ore-ni-dake-uzai-my-friends-little-sister-has-it-in-for-me-6

[gaunt pulsar]

that's Rail and you off camera

[tropic summit]

damn didn't know i was a term you can't use on discord

[hollow lagoon]

This is me the fish

In the process of becoming one with siren (through being consumed)

[gaunt pulsar]

cute and funny

[tropic summit]

not that one but oh well

[hollow lagoon]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-11189945124697171991

[tropic summit]

why is she so cute

[shell hazel]

it's just science

[umbral crown]

[jade rover]

Good morning PVP experts! Which team will win?

[gaunt pulsar]

if to go in order of teams R L R R R seems like, so yea people cheering seems kinda correct

t1 actually not sure

[glad meteor]

I tried rapu priv again. Its not good

Priv aoe just not enough even

I forgot how trina burst worked. But i remembered it when testing

[gaunt pulsar]

you either kill with her burst or eat enemy b2 i've counter it yesterday there like only 2 frames of action you have if she doesn't kill, then either b2 or b3 goes off, so not much room, you either kill with her burst what you need and win or you dont

[jade rover]

R has higher probability of winning?? I want a fail cheer.. so I should go left? Thanks

[ivory violet]

I feel like a lot of the time you have better odds of flipping a coin than asking discord. But teams 3-5 it looks like the guy you cheered for will win

T2 goes to left, T1 honestly no clue, if rapunzel stun then right wins, if no then maybe left?

[gaunt pulsar]

oh right, i'm blind, they cheering for left in majority, which is loser in this case so yea if you want lose frame it's left

[jade rover]

Many thanks… I flipped many times during previous seasons…. lol… think I will go with the experts in this channel

[ivory violet]

Well keep us updated on who wins, if you get the cheer wrong let's just blame Lomarion 😅

[jade rover]

🤣 no worries.. the most just try again next season

[gaunt pulsar]

funny thing btw from yesterday test, rapu is dead to nayu burst before it lands (flying cat screen shows correctly) it's so frame perfectly on the edge that game treats her as dead before we see nayuta burst land only after "full burst" yellow screen, visual "features"

[glad meteor]

Yeah pvp vfx > dmg are delayed unlike pve

[teal ledge]

Where the privaty teams at? Are we bringing back privaty and Sanis?

[keen vapor]

Nah

[tropic summit]

i'll stun your butt with privT

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[gaunt pulsar]

SR tmrw let everyone get more RL dolls

[teal ledge]

Im on the maintenance grind now 2 stars

[gritty ridge]

Please no

[arctic jewel]

Need some help with these matches

(Should be correct order)

[neat cipher]

Guys, I need help with PvP. I have all the characters except these.

I've never made it to the Champions Arena; I always finish between 5th and 9th place.

[tropic summit]

those teams are made without any clue about burst gen i think, get ideas from these:

#pvp-arena message

pick teams on 2RL or 2.5RL

burst gen to get familiar: https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[neat cipher]

What does that mean? That page puts Jackal in 3rl, Liberalio in 2, and S. Anis in 4.

[tropic summit]

i suggest you give this a read:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

in particular the section about burst generation

if you don't feel like learning tho you can just post your box with units ordered by strength or your blablalink set to public and someone can make you the teams

[neat cipher]

Okay, so what I need to do is get low RL?

[neat cipher]

Here: https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTQxOTE4NjI0MjQyOTY4NDI0ODk%3D

[restive heart]

no need to worry those numbers

im not 100% sure but those number are related to frame counting

all you need to know is that:
2rl is the fastest
4rl is is the slowest
3rl is the optimal burst gen

the number below 2RL which is 119.02% is the total burst gen of your all units combined

bruh

im still reading it….

[neat cipher]

Sorry, I thought that message didn't send correctly.

[cedar sorrel]

Cooked his defence on my own 💪

[mild lion]

Curious if anyone has any suggestions for me to fix this comp.
To be clear, despite my synchro deficit I have been beating this guy for quite a while, and even though my synchro gap has actually shortened, I guess after eight iterations he has just finally found a comp that has me stumped.

[gritty ridge]

Its indom v indom, don't do that

[mild lion]

It previously wasnt, his team 1 was running Noah for B2 so the ploy was working nicely. Issue is the SW burst needs time to do its thing.

[gritty ridge]

Sbs indom is very easy, put noah in p1 and use biscuit

She'll do 0 dmg

[mild lion]

so basically put my Team 3 to the task of beating his team 1 instead.

Question is, if my Team 1 can pull off beating his Team 3 lol

His Scarlet nuke on Team 2 is too high in CP for me to bother with so I just let that team lose each time.

[gritty ridge]

It would be great if instead of a video it was his comps

[mild lion]

ill post that in a sec. It worked, just indomed the wrong target lol. Might have reorder for it to go through

I also am surprised I can win at such deficits lol

I wish I had recorded all the previous comps I was beating him at

Some of those zombie SW wins were so beautiful, thats why I was averse to abandoning it

[cedar sorrel]

Rip centi

[gritty ridge]

Deficit isnt too bad

T1 you should be winning, t3 is really easy, try nayuta, clip rl, lib, liter, snow/helm/emi

[mild lion]

T1 does win now, I will try tweaking T3 then, is it really not worth running a Blanc zombie?

[gritty ridge]

Not needed at this deficit

[mild lion]

gotcha, so only if he started getting away from me again in synchro

[gritty ridge]

Yup

And with blanc on deficit your best friend is vesti

[mild lion]

Ill have to hunker down and finish building her to PvP standard then, does SW just end up a battery?

[gritty ridge]

I have never personally used snow on burst for a deficit hit

I always use lib/vesti

[mild lion]

What would you do for the clip RL? Since I have Centi on T1?

[gritty ridge]

Trina

[mild lion]

Aight, lets give it a whirl, not like my Scar nuke is doing anything worth the Trina and Helm anyway lol

[restive heart]

[gritty ridge]

Hi devilish

[mild lion]

Wait im dumb lol, Centi isnt on the T1

[restive heart]

noah-biscuit-vesti-tHelm-RH vs blanc team

jackal-swha-emilia-blanc-laplace vs cindy team

[restive heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315285264947613726/1457660689006202911/alice_marchen_wavec.gif

[mild lion]

Absolute giga-chad Big, thank you kindly.

Now to wait and see what he dreams up next

[restive heart]

noice

yea i forgor nayuta teams

i was focused on thay bricked centi

[mild lion]

Imma keep those two you sent in mind though, might be needed cuz he switches defenses a ton to try and shake me off

[restive heart]

was kinda hesitant to use nayuta due to enemy siren but i guess i worry too much

[mild lion]

I know people keep saying T.Centi is a mistake but, I feel like it doesnt really make that much of a diff at this level of play, only at actual hardcore PvP does it make a difference in charge speed.

[gritty ridge]

Use 2 b2 and it dont matter

[restive heart]

ik

i forgor trina exist

[mild lion]

I would rather the devs just make shields not be a throw mechanic in PvP

[restive heart]

nayuta-trina-libby-rosanna-emilia

[gritty ridge]

Rosa at any kind of deficit is a bad idea

[mild lion]

Yeah I have never used Rosanna at all, which is wild at first except my opponents are always higher CP than me, Maybe I should try to make better def teams

[restive heart]

welp just replace it with buffer

[gritty ridge]

Thats why I said liter lmao

[scarlet tiger]

Good day!
It's been a long time since I've last changed my spa's team comp
May I know how to beat this particular opponent?

I would appreciate a good generic def team too
Thanks a lot!

[umbral crown]

@restive heart once you trust the process delivering a message nobody will bother you. trust

[restive heart]

[umbral crown]

[restive heart]

skip t1
jackal-vesti-laplace-blanc-swha vs t2
t3 good

[restive heart]

heres mine

@umbral crown not a single red

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-lucilfer-chrollo-lucilfer-1999-hxh-gif-6871618917807347989

[umbral crown]

for team 1: Ein/blanc/Red Hood/Trina/Jackal
for team 2: skip it by using 1 unit or any team you wanna try
for team 3: stays the same, it shoyld win just fine

as for defense... can you show the rest of your nikkes

[vapid lake]

Normal ppl will stop once u show them u will gem them, mentally ill ppl like that alice lover wont

[umbral crown]

i do not have a dedicated player but with some reds here and there... my bracket not that active

[scarlet tiger]

These are the rest of the nikkes

[scarlet tiger]

Last page

[umbral crown]

good

[restive heart]

what def team u using rn?

[restive heart]

wish i have this bracket

[umbral crown]

SP Defense
Noise/Siren/Cinderella/Emilia/Noah
Jackal/Ein/HelmT/Blanc/Centi
Nayuta/Scarlet/LaplaceT/DrakeT/Red Hood

some notes for future investment

your top 1 priority is investing on:
Snow Heave Arms
Vesti Tactical

after that go fo these units:

Privaty Treasure
Liberalio
Trina
Rumani
Biscuit
Moran and get her treasure phase 3 as soon as you can
Bay will work once you invest a bit more on her

[restive heart]

[umbral crown]

the same i gave you some days ago , nothing hard to beat

Rail can confirm

[restive heart]

any new def team suggestions or adjustments?

this is the def team im using rn

[umbral crown]

maybe adding PrivatyT

[restive heart]

idk if this is decent lol

[scarlet tiger]

Thank you very much!

[umbral crown]

tomorrow when rookie opens gonna cook some teams with her and will elt you know but will be good to test

i did a cook before rookie season ended yesterday and privaty only lost to vesti indom, the rest won all

[restive heart]

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Im gonna be honest, that looks like a dead noah

[umbral crown]

still thinking in a good 2 rl privaty buffed but will take some time to cook something like that

[umbral crown]

some dies fast, others nope