pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit can i get away with this

[tropic summit]

blanc in p1 in 2026 on sp arena? what you smokin'

T2 is ok
T3 label kinda useless, put a siren in there

[hollow lagoon]

haz biscuit

[tropic summit]

won't do sh*t if blanc is stunned

it's not unprotected blanc you need to worry about, it's stunnable blanc

[hollow lagoon]

shiet i forgetz

[lone sequoia]

then move jackal

[keen wolf]

Could I get an assist on building a SP Arena team when someone's got a sec? Note that Centi is only T1 and not bricked, and I have resources to build someone up if they'd make a big difference (And I think Ada is so far down she's not in the roster pics, but I do own her)

[placid bloom]

remember he is 100-200 sync above everyone, I think he takes 0 damage even if Blanc stunned

[hollow lagoon]

label have chance to save my water units from rosa?

i need to read rosa targeting again

[rustic sandal]

Mine has got to be the worst box to work with.

[placid bloom]

dispel 2 highest Atk, hit 2 attacker

so if Label fatter than Helm or SWHA then you save 1 at least

since the other one won't get elec reduc dispel

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh emilia
• noise siren swha laplaceT noah
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi lib

Notes

• invest in vestiTU, blanc, emilia
• you've a few other variations open in case with moran and biscuit, but run these for now, when they break ask for new teams

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit label should protec helm no?

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, run these

[lone sequoia]

label atk buff, 1 dispel

[tropic summit]

it's meaningless, that team doesn't need to worry about rosanna

[rustic sandal]

Noice.

[tropic summit]

you've already moran and SWHA directly countering rosanna, they'd need to spend a jackal + rosanna and it wouldn't even be the proper counter

[lone sequoia]

but the things is... you can attack with a different element

[tropic summit]

put a siren and it adds way more difficulty

label is just there cheering

[lone sequoia]

vesti comp is easier for rosanna than helm comp

[hollow lagoon]

i told people to still poke moran + water units with sac rosa tho and they usually keel it

[tropic summit]

SWHA will deny rosanna

[keen wolf]

thank you kindly

[hollow lagoon]

i'm the maddness that tell them to jackal the rosana

[tropic summit]

then that team takes away a rosanna and a jackal, but they also need a B3 that deals with moran and noah

rapidly goes expensive counter, served its purpose

[tropic summit]

noah in p5, siren in p2

siren p5 has little threat

[hollow lagoon]

man u drive hard bargin

[tropic summit]

T1 is too slow, bench ada

either biscuit or ada, not both

[hollow lagoon]

do u know if lib charge speed sticks on vesti if lib is keeled?

[tropic summit]

won't be relevant, that team won't need charge speed

just hit indom then it has served its purpose

[hollow lagoon]

but my 10 trillion ammo vesti could use more dps

[tropic summit]

won't matter, its counter will deny vesti entirely

[tropic summit]

still kinda slow T1, 15% feed needed is huge leeway

but it's better than before i guess

[hollow lagoon]

got clip rls left for slotting anyway

could just lapt

[tropic summit]

91% is generally the decent spot, 94-97% is generally safer

[tropic summit]

ye that'll do

also better splash pressure on p2

[hollow lagoon]

why are u so evil

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smug-face-10

[hollow lagoon]

hopefully the anis dies at just the right speed

[tropic summit]

she needs to hit twice then die ideally

[hollow lagoon]

idk need to try it out

@tropic summit wouldent label make the thing some what slow cindy resistant?

or is 4rl cindy way beyond the 5sec range?

mmmm sry nvm

3rl cindy is in range 4rl is not

[small gale]

how does Privaty's Burst damage work? Is there a bit of a delay for the damage after it activates or is it instantaneous?

[hollow lagoon]

keripo said slight delay

[cedar sorrel]

I cant beat these people no matter what cuz of CP right? Highest I can go is 262k with best units

[tropic summit]

need 284k+

[lone sequoia]

stats penalty

[tropic summit]

both being decently fast teams with pressure don't really help you

[cedar sorrel]

Tough. I cant reach that and they have good nayu insurance with mermaid too

[placid bloom]

Team 1 I think you just die to SWHA procs, team 2 maybe beatable

[cedar sorrel]

This other guy Ive been able to beat easily by just running mermaid myself against him. Do you think running this mermaid squad would be better on defence as well?

[placid bloom]

Just depends how fat your Vesti is

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I was thinking it could be possible cuz theyre running rrh as b3

[cedar sorrel]

Shes my strongest unit in CP but not like shes 12/12 or anything in the slightest

[placid bloom]

It’s just a matter of if you can kill before Nayuta invin runs out. RH will dead cuz she will B2 taunt after Nayuta is stunned

So you are missing a B2 buff

It’s just B1 RH buff and Vesti self buff

[cedar sorrel]

Atp cant I change my order and go like jackal shwa or something akin to that in p1 p2

So then they end up getting stunned / killed

And my nayu b2 resolves hopefully

[placid bloom]

You will die through Jackal shared HP at deficit

Without Biscuit

[cedar sorrel]

My biscuit is weak so she'll drop cp by 20k

Too bad I guess I cant fight these guys yet

[placid bloom]

You can drop Jackal entirely and put someone like Crown p1, Nayuta p2 Vesti Biscuit RH but probably still CP issue

Also it might be too slow, maybe you die to their Nayuta burst

[cedar sorrel]

Only 214k cp

[placid bloom]

Yeah I think their Nayuta burst anyway and you dead

[cedar sorrel]

I swear when I get enough rocks to OL all these units itll be over for them 🤣

This one should be possible right? And if not I can run the mermaid team to stun their nayu

[tropic summit]

this one allows you to try indom vestiTU

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT

[cedar sorrel]

My blanc is so weak

I dont own helmt yet either

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter, can be 26-30% deficit and still wipe

helmt is flex unit, can be swha

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit swha, vestiTU lower hp than SWHA and jackal

5th unit can be flex that lets you hit 2.5RL or 3RL and doesn't steal indom

[cedar sorrel]

My vesti has most HP of all my units

Except RH

[tropic summit]

use a flex unit that has similar hp and boost it with vigor

jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit RH is fine

[cedar sorrel]

Ouch

[tropic summit]

30% deficit cope, give it a shot

[cedar sorrel]

Should I doll blanc up

[vale panther]

hey guys, just wondering if there could be any upgrades to my teams with the new pick ups, mainly swha - happy to invest in chars if i need to

[tropic summit]

jackal and blanc are core units, absolutely both need SR5-SR15

[gaunt pulsar]

probably not enough damage to survive rh buffed nayuta post indom, she gonna be full hp at that deficit

[tropic summit]

blanc indom is longer than nayuta indom, take your meds

[gaunt pulsar]

it is, but he not gonna deal enough to kill her

[tropic summit]

he needs to enter indom then wipe, nayuta runs out while he's halfway indom

[cedar sorrel]

I can take her SR 5 now

Lemme do that

Used 130 blue

[tropic summit]

jackal needs to be higher HP than vestiTU btw

ensure conditions are met

[cedar sorrel]

Jackal is 2k below. And Ill be honest I havent been doing lost sector so I dont have vigor

[tropic summit]

fix your jackal and blanc first before you wanna consider hitting enemies on deficit

[cedar sorrel]

I usually beat them with nayuta cheese honestly

[tropic summit]

they're 4RL or 3RL at best, you could try pad a 3RL instant nuke with nayuta

pad it out in p2 and p5, ensure vestiTU is your main B3 and nayuta and RH are core for the dmg needs

you can check speed here https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I won very easily with
Nayu tvesti rh lm shwa

I didnt consider their burst gen isnt actually that good

[tropic summit]

scalet rrh rh and nayuta are all kinda poor burst options

helmt is doing all their work there

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah...

I swear idk how everyone in this pool is casually 90k+ cp ahead of me

[tropic summit]

a mix of p2p and progression maybe

[cedar sorrel]

It doesnt matter tho

I guess Ill need to play lost sector for the cubes though

My blanc is also decent cp now Ill just need to get 2 more OLs on her to be able to put her on my teams

[glad meteor]

8 rocks. Is a good day

[tropic summit]

until you find out those rocks came from @shell hazel and @hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

2 rock today

[tropic summit]

yep they all went to Kara

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

they did I got 1 rock today lol

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-kiss-gif-6588078957197429086

[shell hazel]

🇰

[high lava]

How does PrivaTy handle in pvp?

[tropic summit]

on attack can be useful
on defense still abusable and weaker

either way she's optional, not core

[ivory violet]

Does anyone have videos of phase 2 Centi treasure? I've only seen what hoboman posted yesterday and it didn't look like it was as bad as people say

[tropic summit]

treasure her yourself then

[ivory violet]

Well I wasn't gonna that's why I asked here

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[cedar sorrel]

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

don't make me do it Centi

[tropic summit]

i'm used to red dots

f2p gets used to it quickly

[umbral crown]

Im.not used to

[shell hazel]

I built my raven some Rail

[tropic summit]

pve g0on

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

dunno if i'll build any iron code tbh

3% life anyway

[keen vapor]

Me fr fr

[shell hazel]

she usable

I MLB her with SB colab and spent all this time being unable to build her, finally had some resources so thought screw it lol

[tropic summit]

time to kill gluttony

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-8420764283949913509

I don't have the CP I think - have you done it yet?

[tropic summit]

trying with 541

noway i'm building midhara for this

[shell hazel]

mine is OK built wouldn't take much to boost cp a bit

I mainly need to bump her doll from SR-5 to SR-15

I will try gluttony properly at 521 sync and will probably bring SR-15 mihara to it

[tropic summit]

i might've the damage now

MGs still hitting for 1 dmg

[shell hazel]

did you clear everything else? I left one fight in 37 (clone of the annoying one I was forced to do in 38)

I'll go back to that later

leaves me here

[raven plover]

this is prolly the 4th time someone said its my house

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

gonna need to try without moran and see if vesti does more than alice

[shell hazel]

moran good and all but yeah if you don't need the tankiness I imagine siren does better

[tropic summit]

siren could contribute half of alice

that could be what i need

[shell hazel]

this is warudos clear on a copy

so about 90k cp less atm

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

he's bad reference for me

[shell hazel]

moran tanked it like a champ

[tropic summit]

his clears aren't even close to my synchro CPs

[vapid lake]

he has max core nearly everything his units just have higher stats

don't use a gigawhale as ref

[tropic summit]

ye absolutely

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

they playing easy mode i can't reference to

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

it doesn't matter all the top clears last 1 month have similar comp and cp

all that changes is the sync you can clear it at

which give you the cp you need as long as you built the dps OK stat wise

[vapid lake]

it does matter, he cleared at a lower sync because he whaled for cores

so his cp is higher than the people who didnt

[shell hazel]

yeah I know, it's a ballpark for the cp I need though

I don't have that cp either and will need 521 I think

how much cp do the doll upgrades do actually?

apparently priv can work good as support here instead of mast too, my priv is OK but needs a bit more overloading and skills

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

alice dps :9

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake who's gonna do better than the above assuming no midhara

[shell hazel]

what is your cp on this one Rail?

307K alice is pretty chonk

[vapid lake]

alice does 0 dmg tho u're making rapi solo carry

[tropic summit]

would vesti actually do more?

[vapid lake]

nah same tier

no core no parts alice does no dmg

[tropic summit]

who among these ladies shall i use then

[vapid lake]

helmT, privatyT, xdiesel

[tropic summit]

helmt as main B3?

[shell hazel]

screw it if you haven't tried it yet, snow white lol

[tropic summit]

she's weaker than alice iirc

[vapid lake]

to buff rapi even more

[tropic summit]

hmmmm

gonna give helmt a try

[vapid lake]

swha too

[tropic summit]

swha has been pepega on off element for me

[vapid lake]

[glad meteor]

No mihara

[tropic summit]

stop asking me to build boss specific nikkes

[glad meteor]

Build boss specific nikkes

[glad meteor]

Red dot on centi

[vapid lake]

what's this? a pvp player didnt build mihara?

[glad meteor]

If I ever sr15 centi. I dont think I can leave her at phase 1

[tropic summit]

she's CA unit

i don't give a f about CA

[glad meteor]

@umbral crown correct him 💢

Oh

PrivatyT waiting room is over

[vapid lake]

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/86-eighty-six-anju-emma-angry-lash-gif-12649077435200485289

💢

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake not enough

[vapid lake]

wait more cp or build mihara/diesel

[tropic summit]

oh come on

[vapid lake]

it can't be helped, this big pile of shit has so much hp that rapi can't kill it alone

at high deficit

[umbral crown]

Where MoranT

[glad meteor]

Did you mmast burst

[shell hazel]

mihara is bossing unit but eh, not like you won't get to use her on basically every fire raid

[glad meteor]

Shes neutral strong too

We use her on ziz if I’m not mistaken

Prepare for the futurue

[tropic summit]

i did, x3 rotation

[noble python]

@tropic summit Can you help me make new defenses for SPA? :3

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake what's bare minimun mihara invest to clear this pile of sh*t

[vapid lake]

same stats as rapi

[tropic summit]

she doesn't need 90 ele i hope

[vapid lake]

try kick siren out first for moran to raise ur cp more

[tropic summit]

ignore death at the end i committed for DPS at the end

best run so far so that looks like more optimal than siren's

guess i gotta fish for crits

[covert lintel]

Change crown to brid

[tropic summit]

oh yes the brid ofc, look how well built she is

look at this first
#pvp-arena message

[covert lintel]

Did you try change helmt to besti?

[tropic summit]

getting closer

[vapid lake]

u ain't critting ur way to 400 bars of hp

[tropic summit]

then what else can be arranged without increasing CP

[glad meteor]

3 10 pulls

Max core rapi and crown ez

Since helm is doing like negative dmg. Just need someone that does a decent dent

[tropic summit]

so back to alice

[glad meteor]

But i forgot what healerless is like there

[tropic summit]

it's fine moran tanks it

[glad meteor]

There’s nothing to pierce or core to take advantage of if I’m not mistaken

[gaunt pulsar]

change mast to alice and burst with her instead of helm? more cp and helm still gives buff and cp to team on offburst

[glad meteor]

Losing atk buff and crit is big though. Mast buffing rapi is where he’s getting a decent amount of dmg from

[gaunt pulsar]

but his alice is like 306k or how much was it, over 248 mast, + alice deals more dmg surely it's evens out to better results

dunno

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

hmm this might be worth a shot

[glad meteor]

Could try rh b1

[tropic summit]

over mmast i take it?

[glad meteor]

Ye. Cant mmast if rhb1

[shell hazel]

think RH over mast has never given me more damage especially with RH not getting ele advantage or anything

[coarse lake]

I used liter as b1

for the cover

[glad meteor]

Sasuga rail has weak cp liter

I got her high core, one of my first mlbs

[coarse lake]

play better

[glad meteor]

Maybe we cope casters atk

[coarse lake]

what burst phase you at going into qte wall

[vapid lake]

is kicking mast out for alice really the answer tho, alice does no dmg against this boss

[lone sequoia]

how much ammo your vesti have?

[vapid lake]

maybe the real answer is jsut wait 20 levels

[glad meteor]

That’s why we wait AliceT

[tropic summit]

RH/alice p5 didn't help much

i actually drop in damage without mmast

best run remains

crown rrh helmt moran mmast

[vapid lake]

told u

[tropic summit]

i could try liter instead of moran, survival is no issue

[vapid lake]

alice is 🚮

it's 2026, just let alice go

let her live in her wonderland isekai

[coarse lake]

your units survive snipes?

or do you still cover for them

like the snipe that happens at the very start

[tropic summit]

i can either cover or survive them as needed, just gotta time shields

[tropic summit]

this one is lethal unless covered

[coarse lake]

moran should be able to facetank those

just ignore everything and keep firing aside from first one

see if that helps squeeze out dmg

[tropic summit]

ye moran survives snipes with over 40% hp

[coarse lake]

minimize the time spent covering rapipi

[tropic summit]

eh i think i'll record my best comp so far so you guys can get a better picture

liter attempt was similar to siren's anyhow

[coarse lake]

are you covering rapipi at all aside from first few seconds

and what stage of bursting are you going into qte wall

[coarse umbra]

Looking for some help to build some pvp teams (for both rookie and SP arena). I basically haven't touched pvp at all since starting the game but I'm trying to get into it. Any help is appreciated, thanks

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake @glad meteor @gaunt pulsar

[lone sequoia]

are you still there?

no mihara?

[tropic summit]

QTE part could be improved if i commit and yolo at QTE

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[lone sequoia]

cindy?

[coarse lake]

rapipi burst got wasted in qte wall

[tropic summit]

how do you suggest dealing with it?

[coarse lake]

I would delay, also hard to tell, are you just doing crown crown mmast

just stall it and clear it without bursting

[tropic summit]

ye can do once crown crown mast, then once crown mast, then twice crown crown mast iirc

[lone sequoia]

test with cindy, no mmast

[tropic summit]

what team?

[lone sequoia]

same team

[tropic summit]

crown rrh cindy moran helmt?

[lone sequoia]

video*

[tropic summit]

u said no mmast so helmt instead of mmast?

[vapid lake]

[lone sequoia]

yep

[tropic summit]

[vapid lake]

try turn on simple cut-ins to save more frames

[coarse lake]

then just delay the rapipi burst until qte is over

[tropic summit]

oh no... i saw this before

[coarse lake]

or adjust timing so that you go into it with helmt burst

might have some qtes you can delay beforehand, I don't remember

also control helmt for faster burst

[tropic summit]

QTE is clearable if off burst? i haven't tried cuz i assume it isn't

[coarse lake]

it should be doable

[vapid lake]

idk what i did differently but i managed to full burst 1 more time right before entering the fade qte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1dc_FxBIW4

[coarse lake]

or squeeze in bursts fast enough before with helmt control to rapipi burst before qte wall

[vapid lake]

so i had 0 downtime

[wild hemlock]

Oh hey that's the boss I'm at. Moran was letting me straight tank those shots

[vapid lake]

pffft kids these days with their morans

[coarse lake]

yeah with helmt control, you can def squeeze in most of a rapipi burst before qte

[wild hemlock]

That's me about snake boss now because I cleared it right before new SW came out

Now you kids have your snow whites and morans for snake

Back in my day...

I had to invest in bready and everything smh

[lone sequoia]

@tropic summit how much ammo your vesti have?

[coarse lake]

just run it with sbs manchor lah

bready ain't worth invest

[tropic summit]

cindy slightly improved it

[vapid lake]

also doro cursor is +10% dmg hidden passive

[coarse lake]

squeeze in bursts faster with helmt control

[coarse lake]

you should be bursting within 2 helmt shots

insta release already full charge right after fb ends, charge another, maybe a tap right after to finish

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

then spam to get that cr if you wanna further optimize

[tropic summit]

yeah i could squeeze 1 more burst rotation at least

time to turn on the 30 fps strats

[vapid lake]

pretty sure 30 fps doesn't slow this boss down at all

turn on simple burst anim to save a few frames, manual helm like he said, maybe there's time for 1 more fb

[wild hemlock]

I had to SBS was just too inconsistent for me

[coarse lake]

speed up pre-qte wall as much as possible

preferably so that you can even helmt burst in qte wall

[umbral crown]

Been saying to use morant but you decided to use when pinguim told you

[glad meteor]

[coarse lake]

so you waste helmt burst during qte wall, so you exit with another rapipi burst

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/tricked-deceived-betrayed-deception-oh-the-deception-gif-5540567

[coarse lake]

or cindy burst if bursting with her, snapshot, same deal

[vapid lake]

[coarse lake]

enter qte wall with rapipi already just finishing bursting, exit it and have rapipi burst again asap

[glad meteor]

When c7 Moran

[lone sequoia]

you are in crit range

[glad meteor]

Also share your sasuga ca cook

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-byebye-goodbye-good-bye-see-you-later-gif-2640588240743403753

[tropic summit]

375hp bars

i'll try to maximize rotations

[vapid lake]

dont give him false hope crit rng is like <100 bars

[lone sequoia]

you have to believe

[lone sequoia]

around 200

[vapid lake]

u aint critting ur way to 400 bars of hp diff

[tropic summit]

time to go ham

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

we killing this tonight

[glad meteor]

Rail op

[lone sequoia]

that look like enough dmg boost

[vapid lake]

where does this guy get his luck from, can i have some

[tropic summit]

the pile of sh*t... is dead.

it was an honor

@vapid lake @glad meteor @lone sequoia @gaunt pulsar @coarse lake

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

fk midhara and fk ada.

[shell hazel]

Rail: I just spend 2 rocks and we got this

[vapid lake]

Couldnt be me, takes me 100 rocks to get a black line

[tropic summit]

the only real addition was 9%atk and 20%ish ele

[lone sequoia]

it was in crit range

[shell hazel]

I wasted 21 rocks on trying to roll ele for rapi line 1 yesterday, got crit damage 4 times lol

7 x 3 rolls for nothing

[tropic summit]

also a bit of extra CP from resil lvl 13 and the blue line of rapi

[vapid lake]

20% ele is big

[glad meteor]

My job

[tropic summit]

now let's see the horrors of chapter 39

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smug-smug-anime-8cf

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ada-wong-remake-gif-16836517371551384156

[shell hazel]

I think if you can clear gluttony you can def progress 39

[tropic summit]

it's water weak

finally swole white can do her dmg

maybe i even get to play some doro

[vapid lake]

U can make it all the way to ziz and be walled until 581

If u passed gluttony

[glad meteor]

Rail going to 561

I believe

[tropic summit]

yeah i can 561 with my current boxes

[shell hazel]

oh so actually not insanely far off

feels like 561 for me is a while away

[tropic summit]

this at zizx

if i've a chance anyhow

[coarse lake]

you do

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

crown/rapipi/helmt/moran/mmast

[glad meteor]

There’s going to be some annoying volleyball stages coming. But passable

[coarse lake]

I cleared it 581 with 30 sec left

[tropic summit]

wow not a midhara or an ada for once

[vapid lake]

Ziz one shots my entire team at 1.56m cp still

[coarse lake]

but depends on your cp

you need to be able to break 1 of the balls each set for it to be comfy

[lone sequoia]

who use ada in pve?

[tropic summit]

but eon is a dolphin so i'll take it with a grain of salt

[coarse lake]

or maybe just tempering on everyone

I start burst with helmt so that I have rapipi burst for first set of balls

[glad meteor]

A lot of people. I see her in deficit campaign clears

[tropic summit]

most low clears in latest chapter was with ada

in fact retro has the lowest clear on snek with ada iirc

time to do arknights dailies then back to the grinder

[coarse lake]

endfield or og

[tropic summit]

arm and hand pains are gone, i'm in the zone

[vapid lake]

Nah do endfield dailies and sleep

[tropic summit]

the first

[vapid lake]

Nikke jotmang game

[tropic summit]

i'm home tomorrow and it's just 1AM

[coarse lake]

aww

oh first meaning endfield? or the first arknights

[tropic summit]

endfield

[coarse lake]

na/eu?

[tropic summit]

eu

[coarse lake]

that works, what's uid, I'll send inv later

[terse abyss]

overloaded ada but cant fit her in any team in champions arena

[lone sequoia]

new lost sector is great, but i miss the old one

[lone sequoia]

flex p5, id you don't know what to do... just p5

[tropic summit]

SP arena

nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
siren noah swha biscuit rumani
jackal scarlet blanc centi sbs

Notes

• build vestiTU
• get moran treasured
• wishlist trina
• build rumani and noise

get your teams updated once moran and vesti are available

[tropic summit]

sure post your box

[tropic summit]

oh sure, here you go 6354860686

figured you were NA Eon

[tropic summit]

she combos well with SWHA or vestiTU teams

[coarse lake]

na eu should share servers I think

[lone sequoia]

work in blabla?

i think brazil is closer to EU than NA (?)

wait, rail is italian, i don't know why i thought he was from brazil

[shell hazel]

I can tell Rail is Italian because he lives in a pizza restaurant

[coarse umbra]

Ty, some questions:
I have trina mlb, do I need core on her?
Is centi treasure important?
Is charge speed the most important OL line to be looking for?

[tropic summit]

1. trina is useful in many situations, but no need to specifically increase her core, she's an utility
2. centi treasure at best phase 1, but you can avoid treasuring her altogether
3. for batteries and some units yes:

helmt 8CS%, vestiTU 5%CS, other batteries hit 11% or 15% (centi, rumani, jackal, noah, biscuit, trina)

[coarse umbra]

kk ty. What should the teams be with MoranT and Vesti? I think I have enough resources to get both up.

[tropic summit]

those units can fit in a lot of variations, will be easier to tell you once they're fully built and we can crosscheck with your available most built/high CP units

in general moran is used together with noah or bay
vestiTU can be used as indom, offburst, on absolute team or on noise/noah or moran/noah teams

[lone sequoia]

both in the same team? probably bayT comp

[leaden canyon]

btw does bay block priv stun?

I dont remember how that interaction works

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yurucamp-laidbackcamp

[tropic summit]

damage yeah, iirc it's single hit nuke
stun won't

[terse abyss]

i guess my problem is i rather have a faster unit than ada, all my 3RL teams instantly lose to 2RL teams lol

maybe i can get away with a 3RL label team i guess

[lone sequoia]

why you make 3RL teams that lose to 2RL?

[terse abyss]

i dont know any 3RL team that doesnt lose to 2RL

that said i havent had much practice other than in champions arena, the regular pvp dont have much challengers

looks like people below me are happy where they are

[tropic summit]

keep in mind ada can work in 2.5RL teams with nuke resistance

namely noise and moran teams
alternatively 2.5RL with 91% to 2RL indom is also OK

[lone sequoia]

or a stall that can tank in 3RL, but probably all the 3RL teams are 2.5 now

[terse abyss]

you have to be in 2.5 to have burst 2 activate before their burst 3 right?

[lone sequoia]

teams from some seasons ago are fine, like bay/vesti/ada or indom+dps+ada

[lone sequoia]

depends on the enemy b3, some have delays... different timings

b1 will cast before b3, b2 is cs check

[coarse umbra]

moranT and vesti relative to other nikkes. I havent invested any rocks to rring most nikkes besides my main campaign roster, who would be the top prio for rr?

[tropic summit]

moran phase 3, as you'll use her for both pve and pvp
vestiTU to SR15 and 5CS% with 2 ammo, 2-4atk%, 40-60% ele

[coarse umbra]

Ok, sound good. Should I slot in moran/vesti in any of the teams above or stick to those for now?

[tropic summit]

bench scarlet with vestiTU as she's directly upgrade to that team

moran you can keep her around for different defense teams once those break

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-shima-rin-spaghetti-kazumaozk-italian-nightmare-gif-15808421987992268724

[coarse umbra]

kk, ty for all the help

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/yuru-camp-shima-rin-1

[coarse lake]

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i cant beat final boss

saddddddd

[tropic summit]

did you try hitting it harder

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tantrum-sad-baby-13AXYJh2jDt2IE

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-6

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/mai-sakurajima-11

[hollow lagoon]

i'mma 641 it in 2 month

[tropic summit]

that's a long time

you could get hit by korea guy several times in 2 months

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

holt shiet

he's actually syncing faster

he was 441 range?

now the gap is only 140 sync

[tropic summit]

aren't you 140 synchs ahead

[hollow lagoon]

it was 180

[tropic summit]

you only need to start worrying when you're only 60 synch ahead

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

until then you'll gap too hard to bother

[hollow lagoon]

i'm scared rail

[tropic summit]

don't be scared, he needs a year to catch up

enough time for you to play something else

[hollow lagoon]

i'm bored of warframe kind of already

kek

same old meta except some health tanking viability but otherwise meh

[restive heart]

its different king tho

[tropic summit]

you're way beyond burnout range with the amount of time you played

it's a miracle you can still touch that

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit you didn’t believe me when I said I’m autistic

It ain’t even my longest gaming time game

I played guild wars 2 well into the 10k

[tropic summit]

[dim sapphire]

can i get an idea where privaty nuke's level at scaling between two nikkies?

just got her to phase 3, want to use her for pvp

[umbral crown]

O really but has same profile and atuff

[restive heart]

@tropic summit @umbral crown @swift mango make me new def teams

[keen vapor]

😭 beautiful

[restive heart]

im thinking of like privaty def

with swha

with nayuta rosie nuke

[keen vapor]

Uuuuhhh I rather Vesti/Laplace

[keen vapor]

Ok, you're already cooking yourself

[restive heart]

[hollow lagoon]

Le Quat?

[keen vapor]

Go on but use Nikke Deck website to cook

[ivory violet]

I was running this for laffs I think it needs phase 3 to really have enough dmg

[keen vapor]

The PFP 😭 uwoh

[lunar pawn]

does soline generate any burst if her heal passive is triggered?

[tropic summit]

lethal on single buff, stronger than pmaid and reit

[ivory violet]

I don't think so she's just like a lite indom so my weak rapunzel doesn't die before burst

[keen vapor]

Doubtful

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/anchor-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-anchor-sob-sob-nikke-gif-13693512009955774441

[lunar pawn]

my setup this CA is so experimental

[ivory violet]

What'd you run?

[keen vapor]

Rei treasure doesn't exists add the N as well

[north brook]

Only 10k?

[lunar pawn]

you in keripo's bracket?

[ivory violet]

Nope I started 1st anni

[lunar pawn]

mm

[hollow lagoon]

Idk man I played like 8k warrior 4k guardian 3k necro 1k rest of the classes

[restive heart]

[hollow lagoon]

Idk looks pretty standard to me

[ivory violet]

I've tried something similar in the past, first time running mast absolute?

[lunar pawn]

I built 3 characters from scratch the night before

[hollow lagoon]

Standard scarlet standard sg standard absolute indom swha, lib nuke Moran Noah

[tropic summit]

quantums on T3 are optional, you get feed from p2 and you only need to be 97% to 2RL

[ivory violet]

That's always fun I treasured my bay last night

[lunar pawn]

btw how does emilia 25% work? never understood it

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-punch-7

[restive heart]

ooooh thanks!

[keen vapor]

Naaaandeeeee

[tropic summit]

[ivory violet]

She gives herself a charge speed buff after her first fully charged shot so then she can get 3 shots off in 2rl I think

[keen vapor]

That's not a valid reason

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor you don't work tomorrow right

you didn't sign up for a job that makes you work on saturday right

[keen vapor]

I mean, not but I've been 3 days without electricity at home so uh, don't expect me chatting for long

[hollow lagoon]

Tmr I have Tetra 580mw, Missilis 580mw, Elysion 580mw

[tropic summit]

wut what happened

[vapid lake]

rail im finally experiencing pvp moran

[keen vapor]

Forgot to pay

And electricity company forgets to reinstall

[dim sapphire]

any buffer? ada/helm?

[tropic summit]

prefer B1 or B2 buffers, not sure Ada and HelmT apply to her B3 nuke

[vapid lake]

i don't think she even needs blanc
her hp never dropped anywhere near 1%

[tropic summit]

outlived le vesti

ironically her defensive capabilities didn't really improve, you'd have survived probably pre treasure too

[keen vapor]

This will happen again I'm sure

[vapid lake]

nah she wouldnt because she'd stay 1/1/1 if she didnt have a treasure, i don't build anything that's only used in 1 game mode

she's god now so she deserves it

[tropic summit]

a wise man

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

casual

[vapid lake]

mihara whip rng is stupid tho

[keen vapor]

69

[vapid lake]

if mihara fails to whip one enemy unit i have to wait 45 second for moran to 1v1 the last enemy that didnt die to DoT

[hollow lagoon]

Converted to Privity phase 2 by accident

[tropic summit]

perv

[hollow lagoon]

Cus both are bottles

[restive heart]

full tempering on t2? then nayuta rosanna moran?

[tropic summit]

"accident" eh

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

ye sounds about right

T3 is sort of glass cannon

[restive heart]

link on rosie and swha right?

[tropic summit]

ye rosie is a must

[keen vapor]

You love Glass cannons

[restive heart]

yea dw my rosie is stronk

imma cannon my glass

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/one-piece-ohm

the point of those teams is preventing an indom and stripping a noah

if opponent is careless they'll play their cards wrong

other 2 teams will then have a way easier time

[north brook]

Due to innate 13% cs after first shot, she can get a third rl in around 2.3ish rl timing(no cs)

Can make a team fast enough 2.5rl that the b1 bursts before siren

She does have decent cleave gen like LapT, depends on team if u need her with that much cs

But it doesnt actually get her to 2rl speed its slightly slower

[restive heart]

also for confirmation. 25% cs is from charge speed alone right? not including 13cs on lvl 10

so total of 38% cs

[north brook]

Ya its just as much as possible

[restive heart]

okay thanks

[north brook]

Highest breakpoint

Less cs just means the third hit slower on timeline, her first hit doesnt get the skill cs bonus

If it did she would be able to 2rl

Tbh it only matters for a team that is close and really needs it

[lunar pawn]

just that I hear different opinions

people saying emilia needs 4 CS black lines + maxed skill to reach the alleged 25%

then people saying it's 25% total including CS and maxed skill

[tropic summit]

i'll be honest, you don't need to max out emilia that way at all

unless you really want to min/max for CA higher win ratio

as long as your purpose is using emi in general, you don't need her that high in CS%

[lunar pawn]

Idek the CS breakpoint so

[tropic summit]

keep your rocks for stuff that can get you better gems, namely SR units

[lunar pawn]

don't let the pvp folks hear you, they'll freak

[vapid lake]

Dont trust rail he is now a pve shill

[tropic summit]

once you're comfy in SP arena around ranks ch1-ch3, or even just ch4-ch6, you don't need to commit more to pvp

[tropic summit]

look at my box and tell me what's pve of this, shooting range main at best

[lunar pawn]

redpi not top of the list, indeed

[north brook]

5~8% breakpoint already fine for most use

[vapid lake]

dont make me search ur match history to find all the times u called pvp trash game mode

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[tropic summit]

i'm not wrong am I?

[north brook]

And u dont need 4 black cs lines, just 4 blue or black lines lol

[lunar pawn]

again, I don't understand how her CS is calculated so alleged breakpoints mean nothing to me lol

[north brook]

Due to rounding

[tropic summit]

look at how much s1 gives you, then add your CS%

[lunar pawn]

is that how it works?

[tropic summit]

you can use your fingers if it helps

[lunar pawn]

wouldn't 25% be piss easy then

[restive heart]

no need 4x black cs

4.63 + 5.51 + 5.8 + 5.8

4.63 round to 5
5.51 round to 6
5.8+5.8 = 11.6 rounds to 12
total of 23% cspeed

23 + adjutant lvl7 (2.12 or 2) = 25

25 + s1 10 (13) = 38% cspeed

[vapid lake]

4 black lines can easily cost 400 rocks, even if pvp or pve can't justify sinking that much into 1 single unit

[lunar pawn]

see this guy is doing another math

[north brook]

Cs is rounded to breakpoints, like blood post in pins

[tropic summit]

[north brook]

More cs is more

[tropic summit]

25% via s1 and 25% without accounting s1 are 2 different things

[vapid lake]

At some point u have to stop, the returns are too garbage for too much investment

[tropic summit]

the 25% devilish is refering to for example is actual 25% via OLs only

[lunar pawn]

mostly referring to the nikke deck breakpoints

[wild hemlock]

If you check nikketop you can see with 0% CS that Emilia compared to other RL's will shoot her 2nd shot faster which means the skill is already factored in. Same with Nikkedeck as the blue book icon implies skill level 10, so yeah you do indeed need 25% from OL's/Cube and skill level 10

[tropic summit]

don't bother going for the 38%

[restive heart]

like this?

[tropic summit]

@vapid lake i can hear 300 rocks scream out in pain

[vapid lake]

On crow of all people

[lunar pawn]

let me check how much CS she has

[north brook]

More important to use nikke top and check actual frame timings

If its fast enough its fast enough

[lunar pawn]

[north brook]

Nikke deck is easier to show teambuilds but its not as exact

[wild hemlock]

But yes Nikkedeck is pretty bad for checking how Emilia CS affects the team, much better to check Nikketop as majority of teams I've tried only need like Emilia 15% at most majority of the time, sometime 18%, usually never 21%

[tropic summit]

ok so you've 14%ish + 13% from s1

[north brook]

Tbh thats alr good, unless u need emi25 for a team thats fine

[restive heart]

emi25 is good if you really invest into pvp

[lunar pawn]

the team I'm running her in this round is natural 2rl already so should be fine

unless I lose ofc

[wild hemlock]

Probably fine for most setups, 15% may make you slightly faster depending on the setup and how fast your other RL's are

[tropic summit]

emi 15% is way more than enough

[wild hemlock]

I think the major thing is how much CS you have on other RL's in the same setup, that's actually more important

[tropic summit]

let's keep the 38% warriors below 1% of the community

[north brook]

Ya what matters most is slowest rl

[wild hemlock]

^

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

le wild 102 /h

[north brook]

Emi25 just matters if the team doesnt quite hit full gauge without emi third hit

[wild hemlock]

If even 1 of your RL's is really slow, making Emi faster won't change anything since the unit is slowing down the entire burst anyways

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

now push

[umbral crown]

just doing hard mode

[tropic summit]

unleash the moran

[north brook]

Emi at 8% is alr going to outpace 2nd hit of like 15% cs i think(?)

[wild hemlock]

Only matters if like all other RL's have like 18%, then yeah 8% may be too low

maybe idk it would be close

[north brook]

Ya its about exact 8% emi = 15% bisc

[umbral crown]

i did that since MC

[north brook]

2nd hit timing

[tropic summit]

good, now join me in chapter 39

[restive heart]

[umbral crown]

in few days, trust the process

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta ros jackal trina helmt
• jackal vestiTU blanc biscuit laplaceT
• moran noah lib swha noise

[noble python]

Ty

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock there's no longer volleyballs

god bless 39-x

[noble python]

You got Jackal twice chief-

[north brook]

Theres always volleyballs though

[wild hemlock]

I wanna copy this for fun but I don't have privaty treasure who else would you put there

[north brook]

U just havent found them yet

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/office-no-2

[noble python]

Lol

[tropic summit]

add siren pressure i guess

moran siren vestiTU emi noah

becomes a vestiTU main B3 with splash pressure and anti nuke and partial stall

[north brook]

Think theres one demonic stage in 39 or 40

[noble python]

Rail I think your lack of sleep is getting to you cause the teams you sent me have Jackal in them twice-

[tropic summit]

there fixed

[lofty spire]

i've been playing for 2 years now and i still don't know what rl means. can anyone like give me an explanation for stupid people?

[noble python]

Now two Noah’s

[tropic summit]

i mean i'm trolling you

you already know those archetypes

put your own head and use your units

[noble python]

XD

[tropic summit]

1 indom 1 stall 1 early aggresion

[tropic summit]

here's another

use any of the patterns here or from before and make your best balanced CP teams

iirc we used your indom vesti often enough so consider switching it up

[tropic summit]

describe demonic

[noble python]

We only used Indom Vesti on attack not defense

[tropic summit]

oh if your bracket is unfamiliar with it run it

[noble python]

Kk

[tropic summit]

might get you some def wins until they figure it out

keep in mind they'll use it against you afteward

[thorny ember]

brooooooo

i bricked my centi

does the insta shield really give extra target to hit for enemy burst gen?

wtffffffff

[north brook]

Instadeath volleyball spam

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor@umbral crown oi you MAs... how about you pin to not treasure centi to avoid brickeroni in pepperoni?

[north brook]

With flier oneshots, jellys, and volleyballs ofc, floods the screen

[thorny ember]

fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[keen vapor]

I can't pin
-# :Crown Cooked:

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kotonoha-akane-kotonoha

who designed that stage and why

[north brook]

Idk i just remember it for reasons

Think tribe tower 1079 has that same enemy layout

[thorny ember]

dude wtf. why would they do this? are they aware that they bricked a pvp unit thats only used in pvp with treasure update? are they working on a fix? this is bs

[tropic summit]

1. SU has proved they don't care and don't seem to put any specific thoughts for arena, they tend to be coincidences
2. viperT and poliT already experienced this, ppl told them, SU did nothing
3. centi is the third "incident"

[thorny ember]

to the feedback / issues thread i go then

im going to riot

[umbral crown]

the ones who can pin things are mods

[tropic summit]

what do MAs even do

[umbral crown]

help the people

[restive heart]

[restive heart]

i did a mistake on viper too and now she is sitting in the dust

[slate falcon]

He’s back at it again, Our Almighty King🔥🔥🔥

[tulip quest]

Guys Centi bug is forcing shield on everyone?

does that mean that every has cindy1 extra shield and can make opponent into 1rl scenario?

[quick lake]

I hope they fix bricked centi

[tropic summit]

if 99% of the community complains or the 1% highest paying customers do... maybe

[umbral crown]

can you link me that message

nvm i found it

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

@real ocean hello, hope you are doing fine. i would like you to pin this message since it will help the community here about the new treasures that were added this update

[umbral crown]

thank you very mucho

[umbral crown]

Much Appreciated

[quick lake]

surely they’ll fix centi

[umbral crown]

but till then we are holding

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/copium-cat

[brazen salmon]

@noble hatch, when you plan to use gem again

https://tenor.com/view/ganbare-jujutsu-kaisen-sukuna-ganbare-ganbare-jjk-gif-21760652

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

bro is cooking trusting the process

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

[brazen salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/satoru-gojo---correndo-gif-3542481902885275990

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-gojo-satoru-gojo-silly-gojo-chip-gojo-yippie-gif-16786776734118469908

[tropic summit]

or he's getting cooked

[thorny ember]

is anyone else going to riot about centi? this is bs

[umbral crown]

thats part of the process

[tropic summit]

i've been rioting ever since i started playing, don't give them money

the clearest message that gets to them is when people suddenly don't buy sh*t

[umbral crown]

[thorny ember]

im afraid ive been using that card fro a while now... i guess the survey will be our best bet

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[thorny ember]

"How satisfied are you with the recent treasure update for Centi?" "Very dissatisfied"

here's 300 gems now f off

okay sire

[tropic summit]

pretty much

[thorny ember]

but seriously whos the main guy to talk to here? isnt there a cm?

[forest zodiac]

getting 2x bullied today, I've won one against other guy but this one scares me
please elp

[tropic summit]

there's nothing scary

[slim hedge]

I sent him back to 5th place, let's see how long that keeps him busy today

[north brook]

Priv eats slow comps for breakfast

[forest zodiac]

treasure item?

[tropic summit]

just another 1hitko nuker

[forest zodiac]

thanks, you're awesome as usual, I wish you today a good day

[forest zodiac]

lapt replaceable?

[forest zodiac]

moran needs to be treasured?

[tropic summit]

no

[forest zodiac]

sorry, these two evade me
I got 1 copy laplace when event was released, still one to go
same with moran (kinda) because I don't have 400 silver mileage atm

[tropic summit]

non treasure moran is fine

laplace is just flex high burst gen splasher

[spiral onyx]

Bold of you to assume anyone at ShiftUp cares about PvP

[tropic summit]

you've swha/emilia/vestiTU/laplaceT covering the same role

[vapid lake]

[forest zodiac]

thanks, worked nicely

[coarse lake]

sent

[forest zodiac]

any new treasures doing something for pvp?

[spiral onyx]

Great, we have a noble sacrifice who can tell us when they fix Centi treasure

[tropic summit]

another victim of a great indie game

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-anime-1

[tropic summit]

moran is good to have as a small upgrade but huge addon to pve
privaty is an additional 1hitko nuker if you don't have many, but non core
rest is forgettable

[forest zodiac]

I guess moran > centi > priv > zwei then

[tropic summit]

centi...?

[forest zodiac]

yah?

[tropic summit]

check latest pinned message

[forest zodiac]

danh

[tropic summit]

[forest zodiac]

I wanted treasure centi just to inflate her cp at least

she is kinda on lower side for me

[coarse lake]

treasure doesn't increase cp

[forest zodiac]

really?

[umbral crown]

yeah

[forest zodiac]

wow haha

didn't know that

[tropic summit]

we just got crushed 2 of his dreams in a few seconds

maybe we're the baddies

https://klipy.com/gifs/mitchell-and-webb-are-we-the-baddies

[umbral crown]

Villian Arc is on

[forest zodiac]

its fine, hah

much better than ruining centi

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shadow-laugh-1

[last kindle]

Any help to improve my DEF team please 🙏?

[umbral crown]

for now she is just waiting to be fixed

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

T1 split vestitu swha and helmt
T2 change main B3 in moran's team, add swha or vestiTU, keep it 2RL
T3 slow cindy could stay, but i guess opponent figured it out, change it into a 2RL or 2.5RL stall

[gritty ridge]

Just phase 1 her rosy

[vapid lake]

Bold of u guys to assume SU care about pvp enough to fix her

[last kindle]

@tropic summit Now, it is that, how’s your feeling?

[tropic summit]

T1 switch to vestiTU indom
T2 laplace? draket? avoid using 3 utilities
T3 too slow

[last kindle]

Okay I reproduce

[raven plover]

ayo?

[last kindle]

Thanks I will test near days

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel 2 cancer stages so far in chap 39

actually had to use jackal, unreal

3 second in and you're dead, 10/10 experience

(39-29)

[covert lintel]

Rail pushing campaign

[quick lake]

I’ve yet to do the latest chapters

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

i'm gonna stop at zizx

[covert lintel]

You've lost 500 CD

[quick lake]

[tropic summit]

i can almost smell her

https://klipy.com/gifs/aim-he-virtuoso

[covert lintel]

Why not use blanc instead?
Low cp?

[tropic summit]

nah that was situational to get cover repair against a few sniper units behind shields

i'm here now

[livid marsh]

The goat back

[vapid lake]

Yes hes a 🐐

[tropic summit]

[livid marsh]

How your pull?

[limber anchor]

How do I improve my DEF team in the Arena and Special Arena?

[tropic summit]

aint cooking it's 5:50AM

just giving a few shots against zizx then im off to bed

[livid marsh]

What's that team 3

[swift mango]

If this got broken, try label instead of Siren.

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

Figured it out, night

[umbral crown]

some people are built different

[leaden canyon]

well his team is just cp gap and mine still kills it lol

[onyx scaffold]

am i winning, chat?

[umbral crown]

Only if you trust the process

[swift mango]

I'm at map 40 though.

[tropic summit]

i'm still 541

[swift mango]

same.

[swift mango]

is this the 1+3 glass stage?

[tropic summit]

nah that was obelisk, i cleared that one with team 4 MGs

i'm here now

[swift mango]

I wished I had 4 able body MG. Cleared it with crown+moran+rapipi

[wild hemlock]

Is there any gimmicks in this fight I ran it like once yesterday and got to the end but didn't have dmg but I know a lot of my dmg was doing 1dmg and idk if there is something you have to do or that's just what the boss does

[tropic summit]

no mast?

[tropic summit]

obelisk? just DPS check

[wild hemlock]

I see

[tropic summit]

you can cover its 1shot laser

if for w/e reason your cover burns too fast bring a liter or naga

[wild hemlock]

Pretty sure moran let me live it straight up

[tropic summit]

ye could be

[tropic summit]

40-17, almost there

[swift mango]

very low cp. 3ol 1 line each, sr0, no dupe.

[swift mango]

you have pc which clear and load stage faster

[tropic summit]

how you playing on such deficit on mobile

[swift mango]

but we both gonna stuck on ziz anyway

[tropic summit]

nah we clearly clearing on 561

[swift mango]

just use the right input I could do. And not try hard what I couldn't

[swift mango]

we probably could 561, but I don't think I clear it at that point.

GL to you though

[tropic summit]

you saw my struggle on gluttony, noway im clearing 561 as f2p

[neon kelp]

please help defeating these teams thanks! im 20 sync behind

[swift mango]

clearing map 40 doesn't give more coredust btw

well 0.5 more I supposed, so 1 more when you open 2h boxes

[tropic summit]

T1 is throway
T2 and T3 should be wins

multiply enemy teams CP for 0.846, your teams should be at least above that value
don't bother running the match if you're on deficit in T2, T3 can win on deficit

[neon kelp]

worked like a charm thanks!

[quartz canopy]

any ideas on how to beat this?

[tropic summit]

try these

vestiTU tempering
multiply enemy teams CP for 0.846 and ensure your value is above that, else don't bother
T3 is throwaway

[quartz canopy]

how well built does my vestiTU need to be? just got her recently and am still building her

[wild hemlock]

Should I be getting credits from events now instead of core dust at level 580+... It kinda feels like it

[quartz canopy]

yea that's what I'm doing too, core dust from event shop feels too little

[tropic summit]

2 ammo, 2-4atk%, 2-4%ele, 5%CS

10/10/7, SR15

[wild hemlock]

I don't even mean the shop just the daily story runs on events

[swift mango]

this had to be the hardest stage in 40 for me

I need to use RH b1 instead of CDR.

[quartz canopy]

must be exactly 5% CS?

[tropic summit]

more is fine, less is bad

[quartz canopy]

ok

[wild hemlock]

Did they already do the Centi "fix" that probably did nothing and she's still bricked or did that not happen yet

[north brook]

Dont think so

[wild hemlock]

The #'s look different to me... But maybe I'm insane

This is hilarious

[ivory violet]

Personally I've spent the last month getting credits from the 30-day supply box since you get 30x per day

[north brook]

Yeah imagine her getting a kit

[swift mango]

maybe it's max hp ^500% and she instantly good enough

[north brook]

Nah give her 5% max hp

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

you should start getting flat creds instead of flat core dust yes

[wild hemlock]

5% can't be real lol

[swift mango]

nah make it 50000% and she would be immortal

That's how you do a fix

[swift mango]

yes

[wild hemlock]

Like in the shop? I been doing that. Was more curious about the story though

[swift mango]

should have done that since 501

[coarse lake]

oh story, I still get the dust

[wild hemlock]

Understood

[coarse lake]

but my cred wall is 50+ sync away at all times, so I'm not in rush, I would use a progression calc to see where your cred bottleneck is atm

[north brook]

U can mostly swap between core dust and credits in events

[swift mango]

you mean 4 credit box in story sweep? f no

[north brook]

But ya from the choose boxes get credits

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-pBkKz7grDSULWfeUqH-TmU4BfGwupYpjCTAByHvr0Q

use something like this, see at what sync your cred line intersects and drops below core dust line, that's your cred wall

[wild hemlock]

idk what you mean by story sweep, but like yeah your 5 daily story quickplays during events each day

[coarse lake]

if it's fairly far away you don't have to do drastic measures

some ppl hit cred wall super early and end up gated by creds, personally I've never gotten close to hitting mine

[north brook]

Just do credits from event when needed

[quartz canopy]

got cp diffed for team 2, vesti died shortly after noah burst ended with tempering cube at lvl 9

[swift mango]

20 credit boxes very low value. just buy the resource monthly instead if you f up that hard. And buy the coop raid credit as well.

[north brook]

Really depends both how much campaign exists(normal chps are big freebies for newer ppl) and how many units u raise

[coarse lake]

not sure, gear exp cred cost is gated by.. well gear exp, and my peers campaign are similar to mine anyway

idk what I did differently, but either way I'm in a good spot, so only minor adjustments needed

1k 1h excess exp boxes, 4k 1h excess cred boxes rn

this my graph

cred wall approx 76 away sync away (679)