pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

Stop going to sleep and wake up

[tropic summit]

but mom i wanted to sleep

[umbral crown]

Real.no fake?

[placid bloom]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

ye it's up

[umbral crown]

Outspot at 0.33

What you gonna claim?

[tropic summit]

gonna story

effing penguin

[placid bloom]

so uh can anyone tell me why Moran is now PvE B1 cdr

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/moran-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-15958302663300684403

[sudden drift]

@tropic summit go treasure we will fill you in on story 🫡

[tropic summit]

you got it the opposite way, ya all test sh*t i'm gonna story then sleep

[lone sequoia]

because she is broken in pvp

if someone don't push campaign, please test centi

[sudden drift]

Story take too long, test treasure la

[umbral crown]

Imagine, you will see me finishing chap 44 in 2 moths maybe

[umbral crown]

Cuz besto Queen

[fleet acorn]

people saying centi treasure is bad for pvp coz the shield helps enemy burst gen faster, is it true?

[shell hazel]

#gacha-rolls message

[gritty ridge]

Shiftup broke pvp again

[sudden drift]

They updated EH’s design = removed her codpiece?

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

[lunar pawn]

Someone tldr the fav items for me please

[gritty ridge]

Good pve, bad, maybe good, good pve

Moran, centi, priv, zwei

[fleet acorn]

i already had sr15 moran, centi and privaty ready to treasure

but now im scared since i read people saying centi treasure is bad for pvp

[north brook]

Moran pve treasure lol

[shell hazel]

just wait a day or two for more info no drama 🙂

[fleet acorn]

i wanted the background day 1

[gritty ridge]

Its actually pretty good for pve, its crazy

[fleet acorn]

just centi is the hot one

[versed mesa]

When you say Centi treasure bad for pvp, does that mean that it makes her actually worse, or that it just doesn't increase her usefulness?

[gritty ridge]

She increases enemy gen it looks like

[umbral crown]

Just go

[fleet acorn]

people saying the shield is bad since makes enemy burst gen faster

[shell hazel]

trust the process

[umbral crown]

Its what i do

[placid bloom]

any p5 Chisato believer for blocking SG?

[fleet acorn]

im lost on why the screenshot

[north brook]

Ya and for pvp does have additional atk now

[shell hazel]

I can't post the words they're not allowed

[north brook]

So centiT doesnt understand how pvp works?

[gritty ridge]

We dont have conclusive evidence yet

Could be crown style

Please be crown style

[fleet acorn]

oh i see, yeah i was hyped over centi bg from when they got announced with the backgrounds , but i still use centi on my atk teams, so im scared of int myself

[placid bloom]

her shield was never Crown style

[fleet acorn]

[lunar pawn]

Anything meta you'd say?

[gritty ridge]

Moran for raids, zwei for raids

[placid bloom]

Priv okay, I would take her before Zwei

[north brook]

Guess privT makes her kit work on bosses

[gritty ridge]

Yeah well treasures change things man

[gritty ridge]

I was talking to kos abt using her with snow

[north brook]

Plus dmg

Seems playableish

Ah so designated target is just aoe atk down

Mbe sth like priv snow could work

Snow fixes gen and shes a bit more reliable/faster off burst

[versed mesa]

Centi red dot is just taunting me, but I don't wanna if she actually becomes worse for PvP since it is the only place I still have a use for her

[restive heart]

do we have kit on treasures? just woke up

[north brook]

Guess zwei at least gives a decent chunk of pierce dmg now as b1

[tidal lichen]

called it.

[north brook]

Tldr

Moran is pve treasure, adds enough cdr vs raptures and an atk buff, real solid tho

Centi apparently is supposed to be pvp but instant shield makes opps gen burst faster like cindy but to whole team, bricked

Priv treasure makes her kit work on bosses and adds a solid amount of dmg, should even be decent for pvp due to the dmg bonus

Zwei got a lot of extra pierce dmg buffing, is it enough to make her worth using though? Still no cdr, and its all atk dmg buffing unlike miranda who buffs multiple brackets in dmg formula

[gaunt pulsar]

attack buff on moran burst appreciated too

[tropic summit]

so you can use centi in p4 and p5 for added shielding, just have to avoid p1 p2 p3 like cindy?

bricked maybe only situationally on positioning then

[north brook]

Centi activates shield at start of combat and its on whole team

[tropic summit]

oh wow that's horrible

tell me SU doesn't think of pvp without telling me SU doesn't think of pvp

[north brook]

Like poliT p much ya

Least half of poli kit worked

[versed mesa]

Can I just start the mission for it and just not complete it? That red dot is going to drive me nuts

[covert lintel]

ig not even bay survive this

[versed mesa]

Why does the shield increase enemy burst gen anyway?

[shell hazel]

an extra target to be hit

[covert lintel]

Nah, moran is pvp treasure thanks to the atk buff
Her team composition usually lacks atk buff after all

[shell hazel]

I'll wait on treasure centi for now, I think moran is safu treasure

[north brook]

Hoping my opps who dont jnow better get centiT

[onyx scaffold]

does anyone know if aoe shields can buff opponent's burst gauge?

someone told me aoe shields dont do that

[north brook]

Ya it still good for pvp, but focused pve

Has 0 defensive changes

[wind kelp]

Hmmm....how we thinking about Chisato fast team, where she's invul in p1, then burst her 3 into another invul 2 sec?

[onyx scaffold]

poli shield is SELF

[versed mesa]

Oh well, the new minigame though. I love rhythm games. (First try btw, full perfect )

[covert lintel]

Cdr also helps for 2nd burst in pvp

[gaunt pulsar]

new museum seems easy enough

[umbral crown]

waos

[onyx scaffold]

step 60?

[umbral crown]

whos top 1 right now?

[gaunt pulsar]

nah, just initial clear to get all rewards i meant

[umbral crown]

i see

[north brook]

Its only active when there are raptures

[gaunt pulsar]

like 7-8bil dmg per boss

[versed mesa]

Alright the minigame seems to be super forgiving if you are even remotely in the correct spot to get perfects

[north brook]

Then she gets 20s cdr on her b1 and 7.8s on team

[wind kelp]

Just was wondering since i have saved up some stuff, so i could "PVP out" Chisato, just wondering if it'd work out as a self-invu. Hmm, have to see tomorrow 😄

[umbral crown]

tetra is saved with moran as main b1

[covert lintel]

They make half assed moran

[umbral crown]

if this part would work on pvp, things would be crazy

[wind kelp]

I'm just treasuring Moran out of principle, because Moran 😄 As long as it doesn't brick her.

[lunar pawn]

So centi got bricked?

[umbral crown]

nothing can not brick moran , go for it

[gaunt pulsar]

didnt even had to start working on Rouge can just pvp my way through it

[grand plaza]

Does anyone sacrificed their Centi to test yet

[umbral crown]

[wind kelp]

lifts paw I probably will, because i'm silly. At some point 😄

[versed mesa]

Sucks that the one they had to brick with treasure is Centi, literally the only one I have max doll and could get right away

[umbral belfry]

[restive heart]

what happened on centi?

[umbral belfry]

nothing gonna happen if you treasure centi trust i promise

[restive heart]

also moran treasure worth?

[umbral crown]

of course

[umbral belfry]

she shields the whole team = more burst gen to other team

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

30%atk buff for moran treasure (pvp)

nothing more

[umbral belfry]

granted we don't know how bad it is. poli treasure had the same thing

[grand plaza]

I don't think she is bricked tbh, but not sure. I mean its not like Poli shield, small amount. Possibly you can ignore its feed?

But again if you are just going to use her for pvp, why bother

[umbral belfry]

but this time it's the full team shield so

[restive heart]

[umbral belfry]

[wind kelp]

Oh, meant to ask; can you swap old treasure items to the new ones?

[umbral belfry]

thank god my moran was already 10 10 10 sr15

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[versed mesa]

She literally only has use for me in PvP. So if the treasure actually makes her worse I will have zero places to use her

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

[restive heart]

wait centi treasure bricks pvp?

[umbral crown]

[lunar pawn]

So best treasure to go for first is moran's?

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[lapis field]

Moran or privaty? Dinosaur all the way, right?

[umbral belfry]

not just for pvp but pve too

[wind kelp]

looks at own plans to treasure everyone Yeah, don't listen to me.

[restive heart]

so treasure gonna be moran and privaty?

[versed mesa]

Apparently the shield for whole team makes her feed burst gen more to enemy

[restive heart]

shii imma check her out

[lapis field]

1st dinosaur, 2nd priv, 3rd zwei, 4th centi

[grand plaza]

Yeah thats kinda the issue. You can say she is bit better for pve, I am not sure but I think she can work with Naga now?? But still... idk if its worth it

[restive heart]

wait how to check favorite item of the unit?

[umbral belfry]

she's cdr with a big attack buff on burst now, so imo moran is likely #1 followed by priv

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/moran-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-15958302663300684403

[umbral belfry]

[grand plaza]

Nikkepedia

[restive heart]

so her centi s2 bricks pvp?

[grand plaza]

Bricks? Probably no. Hurts? Probably yeah

[versed mesa]

Has her shield always counted as an extra hit? And it just didn't matter since it was only shielding herself?

[tropic summit]

centi pre-treasure does not give extra burst gen to the enemy

[restive heart]

@tropic summit lets see how much gems he will spend this season again

[glad meteor]

The treasure does pretty much nothing for her in pvp

[tropic summit]

why stop at 10/10/10, just 20/20/20 her instead

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

[umbral belfry]

moran is best girl so by default i'm treasuring

altho the atk buff on burst does do something pvp-wise. just not the cdr

raptures in pvp

[versed mesa]

Just wait until they make a pilgrim that summons Raptures to attack for her

[restive heart]

welp gonna treasure moran anyways

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit yo rail moran t or centi t?

[tropic summit]

don't ask me just read above

moran t is ok, centi t is a dual-edge sword, go moran

[warm monolith]

K thanks

[swift mango]

Privaty off burst buff is pretty good now. I could see her be used in combo with SW.

Privaty stun then SW kill.

[grand plaza]

But her current shield is totally different mechanically

[swift mango]

If Privaty didn't kill them outright with her nuke.

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel living the dream

[grand plaza]

More Like Crown shield now?

[umbral crown]

@umbral belfry @tropic summit i Trusted the process

[umbral belfry]

me next

[lone sequoia]

centi shield changed right? (still in campaign)

[raven plover]

I wanna know as well, is it no longer 1 shield for everyone, so its crown like shield

[lone sequoia]

nero/centi time

[grand plaza]

If its a crown like shield, is it brick?

[swift mango]

Moran, what the heck is Fevor status, how will she have it???

She is basically the same except being ATK buffer means I don't have to get ATK line for my HelmT.

[raven plover]

no thats way better

[limber patrol]

anyone tested Centi's treasure yet?

[lone sequoia]

campaign push, can't test

[lone rapids]

centi gives more shield no? wont that make enemy team burst faster?

[swift mango]

The datamine can't be real.

Centi skill 2 basically comes from 6.38% to 7%. What the actual f?

[limber patrol]

that's what I was thinking

[swift mango]

No extra effect but number improvement also doesn't exist.

[lone rapids]

ig ill just start moran for now

[grand plaza]

Don't forget the huge burst buff

[swift mango]

Datamine used to be wrong a few times so I face my bet on this change to Centi s2 is just fake

[limber patrol]

it better be phase 3

[swift mango]

This is still okay. But that change to s2 is either wrong or SU is full of shit

[grand plaza]

Ofc

[grand plaza]

How is that ok man, its the same aura as 6.38 to 7

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit privity seems very lethal

[limber patrol]

it is phase 3.
I can leave her at phase 1 for now, wait until her shield is tested to go for phase 2.

meanwhile I will be getting Privaty's treasure mats

[swift mango]

It's a new line on top.

[tropic summit]

oh? elaborate

[gaunt pulsar]

what new cube does anyone already know?

[versed mesa]

Doing campaign still

[swift mango]

There was never a treasure where they just changed numbers and not even a good change.

[tropic summit]

oh multiplier skyrocketed uh

[hollow lagoon]

She’s like new Ludmilla with damage taken on skill 2 as well

[lone rapids]

also has atk debuff

[grand plaza]

Its literally lvl1 vigor cube

[swift mango]

Datamine was wrong before. I used to read datamine skill when the version is on and give wrong advice because it wasn't their actual in game effect.

So I'm holding some hope at least.

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

At least, 5% HP is still 1 extra line

It's about principle

[leaden canyon]

So priv still dead for pvp I guess?

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[swift mango]

Big Nuke and strong off burst buff. He treasure make her more viable than Centi one.

[swift mango]

81 to 132 is almost double.

[grand plaza]

Lets just agree its shet all around

[leaden canyon]

true, probably still cant run her for defense though because rosanna will just nuke her easily with her being water

[swift mango]

6.36 to 7 is just 10% increase

And it's actually a bad thing to increase it

[grand plaza]

Idk maybe if she can activate Naga without hurting her pvp performance then it can be a ok-ish Missilis tower buff?

Because I pretty much hate Tia

[swift mango]

At this point, if it's how her skill actually it when the game is online, Centi s2 would need to be reset ro lv1.

[limber patrol]

I think more alive than Scarlet but I will have to wait and see

[swift mango]

The change in s2 is actually a minus.

[leaden canyon]

So moran phase 3 and then either centi or priv I guess

[grand plaza]

Lol fair, I guess thats why its pretty much same number

[umbral crown]

go privaty for now

[swift mango]

It's a minus

[limber patrol]

can also save for july's treasures

[leaden canyon]

true

[grand plaza]

Bricked already

[keen vapor]

WHAT JUST HAPPENED

[keen vapor]

WHAT

[leaden canyon]

Nothing seems insane right now, and I already had moran at SR 15 so just work on getting phase 3 of that

[limber patrol]

(I got all of them and Miranda's today, except Zwei's and ran out of treasure mats after upgrading Miranda's and Moran's to max)

I will have to wait a long time to do privaty's and then Centi's

[grand plaza]

I won't bother Zwei at all, I can live with weaker SW team

[leaden canyon]

is Zwei better than miranda for that team now?

[grand plaza]

Tldr Centi treasure is a joke

[keen vapor]

I got scammed

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1441497155465515008/1026322546934698004.gif

[swift mango]

Like I said, datamine was wrong a few times so we still have hope

[grand plaza]

[glad meteor]

Tia and centi have different shield

[keen vapor]

I didn't base my expectations on Minecraft data

[limber patrol]

I wont either Pierce team with Liter/grave/RH/Alice/support does 1B-1.5B on raids (struggles to survive too), 130% pierce damage at the cost of losing Liter and bringing a cdr wont make it reach my off element shotgun team (3B)

Zwei just not worth at all with current pierce nikkes for me

[grand plaza]

This is not datamine tho? We are looking from the game

[leaden canyon]

You know moran treasure not terrible for some bosses in PVE

[glad meteor]

Oh wait treasure diff

[leaden canyon]

ones that you have to live a lot of damage from

[grand plaza]

Wait I kinda remembered Zwei as b2

[keen vapor]

Moran finally the best option on MW?

[swift mango]

Maintenance is over?

[keen vapor]

An hour ago

[glad meteor]

Centi naga

[umbral belfry]

blood you're like a hr late 😭

[grand plaza]

Yeah everyone in the game

[real abyss]

fav items for moran seem underwhelming

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

i'm almost done reading and playing the new chapter

[limber patrol]

I will use her for behemoth and ignore the rocks mechanic

[glad meteor]

[leaden canyon]

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

My wifi shit. Still need to download

[raven plover]

with crown centi maybe youre immune to lasers on pve

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hatsune-miku-skill-issue-1

[umbral belfry]

her cdr is useless for pvp, but still a good atk buff on burst

[glad meteor]

[leaden canyon]

I bet she also lets you live mirror container

[umbral belfry]

she's not broken, but considering she was already a great b1 anyway it's still good

[leaden canyon]

and snake

[versed mesa]

I'm literally at the same spot

[limber patrol]

cdr on moran would be useful on pvp. but you don't get the cdr on pvp, only when there are raptures

[keen vapor]

My fav part is when ||Rapi kisses SW or something, idk I didn't read the chapters||

[leaden canyon]

maybe even ziz

[grand plaza]

Idk maybe for some kinda of RH/Bmilk/Alice/Asuka team etc. then? Cope level maximum tho

[real abyss]

yea the 1st 2 skill upgrades are pve focused

[glad meteor]

Yuri

[umbral belfry]

yeah exactly. no cdr in pvp

[tropic summit]

jien lack of JPN voiceover bothers me so much

[limber patrol]

I didn't have problems surviving mirror

[keen vapor]

[umbral belfry]

but either way she's still a top pvp unit so you're gonna be treasuring her either way

[leaden canyon]

snake and ziz then

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-blush-anime-smile-3

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anime-girl-running

[limber patrol]

I'm not there yet, but surely I can beat Behemoth with this now

[grand plaza]

Maybe I can use her for SPA now, with Helm I guess

[umbral belfry]

[radiant storm]

So S1 Privaty is the Choice? Already Done with Moran

[glad meteor]

Moran s eggs

🥚

[umbral belfry]

[radiant storm]

Dunno about Centi's Treasure

[leaden canyon]

at the very least priv can be used on water weak raids now

[swift mango]

There is a problem with getting Centi treasure now. It improve enemy burst gen on attacking your Def team in Arena.

While it open synergy with unit like Nero in CA it's could be just a minus in SpA.

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

moran op

[shell hazel]

moran op indeed 😄

[tropic summit]

yeah i'm not treasuring centi that's 4 sure

[keen vapor]

Oh, I like this

[glad meteor]

Need to measure moran opiness

[umbral belfry]

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

But it's still a plus in CA. Help the team survive longer against SG

[limber patrol]

if my Moran had elemental dmg, she would do more dmg than SAnis

(I was testing phase 2 moranT on Alteisein Museum)

[keen vapor]

Oh I get it
Nitroless trick

[tropic summit]

you know CA is worthless right

[limber patrol]

I kinda want that frame of winner once

[leaden canyon]

same

[umbral belfry]

you're in my ca bracket

[swift mango]

Wdym? I champ frame is shiny. And I could just gap my spa

[radiant storm]

So is it Additive to the 4/4 Element on OL Stat?

[limber patrol]

people mald for 3% on a raid for an ugly frame. I would argue CA worth it under the same logic

[grand plaza]

DAMN Moran will just save my azz against triple farter level

[leaden canyon]

Casters attack buff on moran is effected by attack overloads? I never remember this @tropic summit

[leaden canyon]

yes

[shell hazel]

nitro at home 🙂

[upper grove]

No it shouldn't

[shell hazel]

Vesti + Ada + Nayuta also

[leaden canyon]

k

[shell hazel]

life leech and heal is no joke

[swift mango]

Centi actually only need treasure s1 and done. Hope it's step 1.

[grand plaza]

We sure?

[limber patrol]

if it says caster's FINAL atk. yes. but I don't think it does say that.

[tropic summit]

jesus christ story mode jumping from outer rim to eden is something else

[upper grove]

Casters atk = gear OL lvls, dolls, dupes, bond lvl

[swift mango]

Giving enemy burst gen can actually be a plus in CA

[lone sequoia]

wait, the shield give extra burst to the enemy team or only laplace/vesti?

[grand plaza]

Nah its too much. Already tried

[grand plaza]

I am 10th last 3-4 season

Its just so peaceful

[tropic summit]

@swift mango you gonna get a new favourite soon

[umbral belfry]

[limber patrol]

mustang missed

[swift mango]

Zwei treasure though. Miranda exists, why make another unit to take her role?

[umbral crown]

Were not yoy going to read story anf sleep

[tropic summit]

i'm reading the story while sleeping and playing

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chess-explosion

[versed mesa]

Multitasking while sleeping? Rail truly is on another level

[shell hazel]

multitasker supreme

[tropic summit]

2AM warriors incoming

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

at this pace hopefully done with story by 1AM then museum then i'll just jump into the bed and watch cute anime gurls to sleep

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/she-looks-back-confused-but-smiles-softly-and-blushes-abit-gif-13715862161963574275

[grand plaza]

Can you try her with Naga, I am curious how she works

[umbral crown]

Rememeber bois, CA is a thing

Prepare your cooks for this nee shuffle we gonna get

[gritty ridge]

Shes not going past phase 1 lol

[shell hazel]

snek fight btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vefogEEHSs

[versed mesa]

Game crashed

[tropic summit]

they cleared it with moran instead?

i guess she does help you survive

[umbral crown]

Moran is meta pve now

[shell hazel]

that was the idea, no tempura cubes 🙂

[umbral crown]

Cdr 30 atk b1 20 sec

[shell hazel]

that is my fight btw Rail

[gaunt pulsar]

from 5 to 9 to 10, from 10 to 11, from 11 to 15 at least Moran didnt wanted to torture me more

[shell hazel]

am prob one of the first to moran into snek lol

[grand plaza]

Its like ez mode

[grand plaza]

Wait Phase 1 is enough to try

[swift mango]

I check the comcord and saw Gatrix saying treasure make Centi spawn 5 shield instead of 1. Is it true?

[keen vapor]

Moran good on Snake?!

[grand plaza]

@swift mango you know what I just realized?

Its not %6.38 vs %7

Its %6.38 vs %35 actually. Since now it gives seperate shields to everyone instead of one single shield for everyone.

[shell hazel]

🐍

DR innit 🙂

i'm 501 sync so in range probably anyway but nice and comfy

[glad meteor]

Maybe I use on ziz?

[umbral crown]

501

[swift mango]

I mean if it spawn 5 shield then it's a reasonable treasure change.

That I could approve

If it's just tiny number then it's crap

[grand plaza]

BUT it hurst her pvp I think so...

[shell hazel]

trust the process 🙂
bonus besto tanko

[swift mango]

Well, give RL burst gen extra 50%

[umbral crown]

Gonna do museum then story for some credits to level up

[lone sequoia]

that is what we asked before...you can get 20%hp every 5sec, a true "healer"

now, the shield really give extra burst to the enemy team or only vesti/laplace?

[grand plaza]

Every RL except few

[umbral crown]

Would have to be tested

[swift mango]

There is no reason to single out Lap/Vest.

[grand plaza]

Looks like they trade her pvp for pve but your pvp loss is bigger than your pve gain.

Problem is even if you want just the wallpaper you gotta do this

[swift mango]

If anything LapT / Vesti break shield too fast thus reduce the shield benefit

[oak hatch]

Could you share your teams for stormbringer?

[shell hazel]

[gaunt pulsar]

haven't done it yet, prob tmrw

[gaunt pulsar]

first 2 was easy, but no time for sb rn, bedge soon

[oak hatch]

Yeah sb is kicking my ass rn lol

[gaunt pulsar]

oh, well just mechanics probably mod and train didnt even need to use element to pass anything. SB does?

[swift mango]

If you get the treasures alone it only change her s2. Her s1 still won't spawn shield at start of the fight or heal

[oak hatch]

Yeah need fire for qte

[grand plaza]

Oh yeah you are right, best of both world then?

[swift mango]

Get her treasure for the heal tbh good for ca

[lone sequoia]

phase 1 shield?

[grand plaza]

I only once become 4th spot right before CA, but with CA everyone went crazy and now I am chilling on my 10th spot

[swift mango]

Then it's won't matter if centi make you team worse because you only hold C10 anyway

[swift mango]

Yeah

[grand plaza]

I mean I am staying on 10th spot with no pvp-focused investment so who knows

Its not like making her treasure tier 2-3 makes her a pve monster anyway

[swift mango]

Mixed feeling about how they make Moran PvE meta.

On one hand, everyone would have her max so the range chance for you to lose in CA RNG just become bigger.

On the other hand it mean, my roster less PvE bricked

[tropic summit]

CA has always been about RNG and about copypasta the highest win ratio teams

[shell hazel]

seems basically only her burst helps for pvp right? the 1st 2 treasure things seem to do nothing for pvp

[tropic summit]

it won't get worse or better, just more copypasta will go around

[swift mango]

Everyone and their mother having Moran 101010 mean more chance for RNG to screw you over.

[tropic summit]

cuz you really think the other 4 teams aren't copypasted high win ratio ones? won't change a thing

everyone and their mother as vestiTU, SWHA, HelmT, jackal, blanc... and the list goes on

[swift mango]

It chance lots of this between winning their Moran when they soft counter you or not.

Sr0 447 and Sr15 101010 are world different.

[shell hazel]

I built moran mainly for pvp so I guess more people will do so now for pve but the top CA teams all had moran anyway

[swift mango]

Now you have more chance to RNG lose to the non pvp whale.

Thus lower you chance in CA altogether

[shell hazel]

it's kind of whatever I guess not much we can do

[swift mango]

You teams could perfectly counter the champ guy but you won't even meet him

[tropic summit]

doesn't seem much different than it already is

[swift mango]

Now it just easier to happen

Tbf, I don't like Anis new design. She looks more stupid

[gritty ridge]

No

Phase 2 is what puts it up

[lone sequoia]

|| #pvp-arena message ||

[vapid lake]

Rail its happening

[tropic summit]

what is

[vapid lake]

Im actually gonna build moran to 10/10/10

[tropic summit]

cuz of pve?

[swift mango]

Who aren't

[vapid lake]

Yea i dont understand why shiftup decided all of a sudden to turn her into a pve god but that increased her value significantly

Building unit that has dual purpose in both pve and pvp is the best return in investment

[tropic summit]

maybe they saw my struggle at snek

[vapid lake]

She might be the key to passing ziz early too lol

[glad meteor]

Thiss is why they did it

Also people will buy dupes with silver mileage to c7

[vapid lake]

[lone sequoia]

who?

[vapid lake]

I already c7 tove

That where all my silver mileage went

[lone sequoia]

wait... new treasure means dupes in the shop...

i was about to buy some noah dupes

[glad meteor]

Moran

[swift mango]

Papillon is still alive and kicking but Harran died

[glad meteor]

Pla-ilion

[lone sequoia]

.

[swift mango]

With Zwei treasure being zwever I could safely MLB my Noah

[lone sequoia]

"i hope" the new scar-rapu-noah alt can use og units gear or new system that work with other versions, skill or stats boost

[tropic summit]

finally read everything

[swift mango]

Now go clear snake.

[tropic summit]

i need to get moran treasured first

[swift mango]

Just clear with rapipi

[tropic summit]

it's easier with moran, didn't you see?

[swift mango]

But just clear with rapi

[tropic summit]

i can't clear with rapi dafuq

[swift mango]

Open ur boxes

[tropic summit]

nope

gonna try with moran first, ez

[rich quail]

Is Moran the pve destroyer?

[eager mountain]

didnt expect moran not only got buffed in pvp but also seems to replace rouge in tower now

[tropic summit]

moran clears popping up on snek

[rich quail]

I wish I had more Moran dupes

[shell hazel]

damn he had to have less cp didn't he 😄

[versed mesa]

Holy hell there is a lot of story in these new chapters

[shell hazel]

silver mileage

[rich quail]

A capital suggestion

I will have to use those silver tix

[shell hazel]

very possibly one of the best uses for them now ol moran

[glad meteor]

🐳

[rich quail]

WELL LOOKIE WHO IT IS

IT’S THE WHALE ACCUSER

[glad meteor]

Ara

Ara

[covert lintel]

Let's see if she can make me champion

[rich quail]

Bro is she good in pvp now?

I already did the treasure thing with Moran

I think all my treasure mats are gone now

[shell hazel]

moran used most of mine, I'll probably work on PrivT next

[primal charm]

Silver tix can be exchanged to moran soul now?

[short plaza]

Moran treasure makes her good in pve right?

maybe useable is the better term

[shell hazel]

for her soul? I dunno lol

https://tenor.com/view/anime-magic-magic-circle-spell-gif-8657546

[covert lintel]

For pve i think zwei is the most priority
She's b1 slave for swha

[short plaza]

what about pvp

[shell hazel]

nothing looks pvp about really any of these kits, even centi

[rich quail]

Hmmm

I could use her for Campaign

Finally got to Hard Chapter 40

[shell hazel]

well, centi adds more shield but shield also feeds burst gen I'll let the analysis settle in on that

[rich quail]

I just hope people can confirm whether or not Centi Treasured bricks her on pvp

[covert lintel]

For pvp of course priv is priority

[misty finch]

Does moran treasure change how stall team is built?

[short plaza]

it's small but the atk buff on Moran is something right?

[shell hazel]

oh yeah I suppose but I was running moran anyway as mine was 10/10/10 before I even saw the treasures 🙂

[raven plover]

ayo 3 digits, did you get chitato

[shell hazel]

oh maybe? I didn't see the details much my priv in the gutter atm lol

[ancient sun]

How did people max today‘s treasures so fast? Xdd

[short plaza]

curious if centi gets worse with treasure I'll wait for your testing

[shell hazel]

you can swap extra material from completed ones at a poor ratio

[covert lintel]

Fortunately i got 2 copies with just 30

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[shell hazel]

won't be me testing this prob I'm waiting for others to test 😄

[short plaza]

oh I see

[covert lintel]

Her burst won't feel like poking opponent anymore
She hit hard

[shell hazel]

I used most of my material for moran figured it was a no brainer and got me smoothly past snek

[covert lintel]

I think the only counter for priv is noah

[short plaza]

the damage got that helm treatment with the inflated damage numbers lol

[floral kiln]

so any thoughts on moran and centi

[raven plover]

is it

[placid bloom]

Priv burst hit about as hard as old Scar before Trina

actually is Priv burst slow enough to get FB buff

[rich quail]

10/10/10 Moran here as well

https://tenor.com/view/zebros-zootopia-buddy-romanreigns-cmpunk-gif-5358513987621976258

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[ionic horizon]

General question, would an emilia comp be more viable than a scar one?

[covert lintel]

Oh wait her s2 became like this
So most likely will trigger

[placid bloom]

yes if they are not dead

I don't think you need extra damage if they are stunned for 3s and you are not

[covert lintel]

Moran will not die

So that s2 will help

[placid bloom]

I think Priv still lose to Moran even with s2

[shell hazel]

[vapid lake]

Whats ya'll verdict on centi ?

[placid bloom]

I will say she is actually viable for water OC

[vapid lake]

The extra burst gen for enemy worth it? For the benefits she gets

Or is it 100% pvp slop

Just to fill the quota of 4 units a cycle

[placid bloom]

hmm

feel more like PvE shield tbh

it's individual shield but weak as hell

and damage overflow in PvP

[keen vapor]

I'll Kisama you

[keen vapor]

You mean one heal?

That's all I can read

[vapid lake]

It's 5 heals

[placid bloom]

it's 5 heal if they break 1 by 1

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

1 shield per unit, 5 shields

[placid bloom]

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

Is individual....

[placid bloom]

she needs to do 5 shot to get shield cd low enough to use again?

[covert lintel]

I think she's like soline
She'll heal to prevent anyone from dying
Though she'll buff opponent burst gen

[placid bloom]

so you get another 5 heal at 5RL

[keen vapor]

Stall comp sounds like Moran Nero gaming

[shell hazel]

[keen vapor]

Marciana

[placid bloom]

do you believe Moran can live

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/damian-lewis-bobby-axelrod-certainty-not-uncertain-billions-gif-11427386

[umbral crown]

if you trust, she would

[shell hazel]

back to Rosy!

[vapid lake]

Naruhodo

[umbral crown]

was about time

[placid bloom]

well the heal is weird

because if they break the shield with normals without overflow damage you are not getting heal

[keen vapor]

Nah

Too much feed

[placid bloom]

but if they do half your HP overkill at once you get fat heal

[keen vapor]

What

[placid bloom]

what

the heal is on shield break, so if you are already close to 100% you get no heal value

I guess Vesti do 20% HP per shot or more so maybe 1 shield heal wasted if 3 break at once

[coarse lake]

Vid where, need to see multiple shield break heals

[leaden canyon]

do any of the treasures change burst gen or has that not been tested yet?

[keen vapor]

Right

[keen vapor]

Centi gives burst gen... To enemy

[coarse lake]

Min s2 lvl

Minimize gen giveaway

Needs to test it against strong vesti (first shot breaking 3) to see if heals happen right after first shot

[leaden canyon]

Good thing I didn't get it and my opponent did

Why is that btw

[keen vapor]

Shield = extra individual to hit with RL

[lunar pawn]

attack everyone with centi treasure, got it

[leaden canyon]

Oh right

[lunar pawn]

devs can't cook a good story or a good kit these days

[leaden canyon]

oh new lost sector

[coarse lake]

Test if centi counters lib gen

I think it should, assuming the shield isn't already broken when lib fires

[lunar pawn]

whatever gen they lose from lib they'd regain from their other RLs anyway

[placid bloom]

Lib hitting p5 so unless there is multiple SR Lib team then it shouldn't break

[leaden canyon]

oh my god, new cube is true damage increase?

[coarse lake]

Lib runs with Helmt most of the time is the problem

Lib aside, throw label into centi team, then it ain't too big of a deal

[leaden canyon]

Probably wont give you enough true damage to be better than temp though

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[placid bloom]

it has similar value to pierce cube I think

so like 13% true dmg at max?

[coarse lake]

Lib needs to hit target for procs and gen

[leaden canyon]

yeah thats like nothing

[tropic summit]

@swift mango @shell hazel complete BS, thanks moran

[leaden canyon]

yooo she really was good for snake

Should be good for ziz too

[tropic summit]

what's ziz clear synchro range?

[lunar pawn]

what can moran do

[leaden canyon]

I do not remember

[tropic summit]

survive the nuke while giving you cdr and atk%

[versed mesa]

Yoo, finally a way for me to beat Ziz in tribe tower?

[lunar pawn]

40s b1 is cdr now?

[tropic summit]

read her treasure kit

[lunar pawn]

can't, rushing hard mode rn

[worn ridge]

What is better for pvp moran or privaty?

[severe dawn]

What is Laplace Treasure’s advantage in pvp beside providing burst gen? @tropic summit

[leaden canyon]

Priv is a nuke now but it also stuns, moran just gives team attack damage buff

[keen vapor]

Extra damage from her normal attacks

[pure moss]

Priv in pvp again?

[pure moss]

Moran

[lone sequoia]

2026 is the year of priv/sanis again

[pure moss]

priv maybe, not sanis

[lone sequoia]

sanis already counter most of swha teams

[pure moss]

but idk, vesti hwhite and lib are still stronger than priv

[lone sequoia]

for some reason it is the same as with emi meta

[pure moss]

she can't counter my slow hwhite cindy

[severe dawn]

I dont understand 😅

[lone sequoia]

my scar can, S2 black magic

[pure moss]

I put Label there as well

so nah

[keen vapor]

When she charges a shot

[lone sequoia]

ff, time to go stall vs stall

[keen vapor]

That's a rocket launcher attack, wouldn't you say?

[pure moss]

that might work but none of the electric nuke or normal attack will

my cindy comp is hella stacked

[lone sequoia]

so... vesti or lib

[pure moss]

maybe...?

[lone sequoia]

can play the indom

blanc reduce the stalls that work

i'm not sure about my bay/scar

[pure moss]

scar ain't working cuz Label

[lone sequoia]

i would like to see the fight

because the amount of swha hits against bay shared dmg

[pure moss]

in this comp, hwhite would most likely die first

and cindy burst

label and cindy will wipe out the enemy with normal atk

[lone sequoia]

the things is there are 2 version for that old team

[pure moss]

I used to put mihara in p3

[lone sequoia]

the 2RL(jackal) and one that tank more but is slower

time to do dailies before hard mode push

[pure moss]

I'm too lazy, maybe I'll do stories in 1 month

[versed mesa]

Almost done with hardmode

Not sure if new boss has any bs mechanic though will have to see

[lone sequoia]

probably shields+immune+oneshot

[pure moss]

I know I'm blue for the 44 hard mode but I'm lazy

[versed mesa]

I'm not there yet, but only like a 200k-300k deficit. Might be blue for early hm whenever the next chapter update comes

[deft pelican]

So centi treasure will int pvp ?

[pure moss]

int?

[versed mesa]

Dunno what it is short for but I think int is like throwing/bricking

[deft pelican]

intentional feed the other player for burst gen ?

[pure moss]

huh

[versed mesa]

Ah right that's it

[placid bloom]

[glad rock]

so just get the treasure but dont raise the phases?

[deft pelican]

idk i just saw some people talking about centi treasure feeding

[versed mesa]

Haven't seen that term in a long time though my friend used to say team was inting in League when I played with him like a decade ago

[glad rock]

i just want the skin

[pure moss]

you were born in the 1900s?

[versed mesa]

decade is 10, century is 100 Unless you doing a little tongue in cheekage there

I do feel like I'm a hundred years old though

[pure moss]

if you were born in 2000s you wouldn't be talking about playing league a decade ago. Assuming you start league at 15 yo

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/getting-old-aging-soldier-soldier-boy-regret-gif-14387205934344123937

Oh jfc... I think it is closer to two decades ago...

[pure moss]

born in the 1900s indeed

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/my-back-spiderman-spider-man-tobey-maguire-bully-maguire-im-back-meme-gif-24569145

[pure moss]

oh, a retro movie

[quick lake]

Any pvp treasure analysis? Centi and Moran probably best 2 pvp treasures

Maybe Priv + SAnis meta come back as Nesso mentioned

[leaden canyon]

centi is bait dont get it

[tropic summit]

1. moran (pve + pvp)
2. privaty (mostly pve, good pvp upgrade)
3. zwei (pve)
4. centi (consider not treasuring)

[quick lake]

really, isnt her heal + shield pretty decent for Centi

[tropic summit]

problemo is burst gen feed from multiple hitboxes on all nikke

[leaden canyon]

You give your opponent more burstgen because of her shields

[quick lake]

[leaden canyon]

Also the shields are nothing crazy so you basically are just buffing the enemy

[quick lake]

confirmed? wasnt this not a problem before treasure. After treasure there’s a hit box?

[ivory violet]

Anyone walled at mirror container rn? Did you guys get the 93->102 core dust jump without beating MC?

After finishing the latest chapters

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown he was MC walled, i think he can check CD

[umbral crown]

i am still at MC, have not done main campaign yet

[quick lake]

should check coredust benchmark guide

[umbral crown]

finishing musseum now

[versed mesa]

You can use this to check https://dotgg.gg/nikke/tools/outpost

[ivory violet]

Doesn't have the latest chapters yet

[tropic summit]

appearently the 102/hr cd got pushed down

[versed mesa]

I know, but you can just add stages into hardmode, where you get the fills doesn't matter

Until it's updated

[ivory violet]

I was asking for a friend I'll get him to do that then

[versed mesa]

So if you cleared for example 30 stages in new chapters on normal, just add 30 into hardmore

I hope you understand what I mean

[placid bloom]

you only need to get about 2/3rd of the way through ch32HM to get 102cd/h if you cleared 44 normal

[ivory violet]

These new guys have it good

[placid bloom]

which is fine because 32-23A-2 and 32-32 are pretty rough to clear unless you omega mald

[ivory violet]

Yeah I getcha I've done that before. I'm at Ziz but I was just curious bc a friend asked

[umbral crown]

so whats the stage now

[covert lintel]

Should get it to phase1 only
Don't ever go phase2 as she would activate her s2 at battle start
Felt like viper

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

The what

[keen vapor]

Ah yes

[tropic summit]

you're an MA you should know better than me

[keen vapor]

That's too logic to even call it

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

But i think centi can make p4-5 safe from screenwipe

[quick lake]

really? centi that bad they butchered our girl

[covert lintel]

And p3 if the opponent is not vesti

[cursive storm]

Guys, is this Chisato for PvP?

Her skill kit

[raven plover]

tanking ros nuke?

it doesnt block nukes right

so what safe

[covert lintel]

ros will have a hard time killing non water atker if someone uses phase 2 centi

[versed mesa]

Alrighty, new final chapter boss on HM has some stuff. Don't need a kill for outpost level up so gonna leave it here, but doesn't seem as impossible as others. Though my deficit is much lower now than for like Ziz etc.

[vapid lake]

so centi worth?

[cursive storm]

Chisato worth to pull for PvP?

How's her vulnerability work?

[coarse lake]

Wot

[versed mesa]

112 cd/hr

[vapid lake]

Why u ping me, idk shit

[keen vapor]

Nah

[vapid lake]

WHy do u think im asking questions

[coarse lake]

TF is centi doing against Rosa

[vapid lake]

Hoboman should i treasure centi

[sudden drift]

is moran 7/10/10? and is the update bugged for anyonew

[raven plover]

he thinks the shield gonna block / reduce rosa snipe dmg

[keen vapor]

what if 7% extra HP is enough to survive

[tropic summit]

moran is 10/10/10, no bugs as far as i know

[sudden drift]

ive had it crash a few times, anti-cheat quit on me once, and got the gacha skin for 30

[placid bloom]

what if your Centi shield is the extra buffs you need to have more than 5 buff so Rosanna don't dispel your invin

rely on RNG

[raven plover]

but thats execute button

[coarse lake]

I don't think Rosa even hits shield

[placid bloom]

shield is getting dispelled

[coarse lake]

It should just ignore it

[covert lintel]

Is rosa dmg skip shield and inflict hp directly?

[placid bloom]

for sure

[raven plover]

yes

[placid bloom]

only question is what else is getting dispelled

[vapid lake]

if i press it theres no going back, the treasure needs to be worth and not brick like poli

[coarse lake]

Will depend on application order

[keen vapor]

Ah...

[placid bloom]

though Idk how many char can even have 5 buff to keep some buff after Ros dispel

[raven plover]

unlocking wallpaper and done

[keen vapor]

I don't Rosa enough to remember

[coarse lake]

Shields in nikke pvp are useless... At best

[placid bloom]

[sudden drift]

centi only treasure p1?

not wasting kits for her wallpaper

[coarse lake]

Why would you p1

[raven plover]

besti with trio absolute buffs and label.. and centi shield fuiyoh buffs x500

[coarse lake]

You p2 and maybe brick or you do nothing

[sudden drift]

i just scrolled up and saw that's what @quick lake said

[placid bloom]

unless like, against attacking SG team shooting p1 you get heal when p1 shield break then 2 more heal when Ros dispel 2 shield

maybe your p1 can live in that scenario but still unlikely

[coarse lake]

Sgs will just murder them

[sudden drift]

or maybe i cant read... ive been playing half asleep all night

[quick lake]

is it confirmed that centi’s shield provide opponent gen? kinda sus

[coarse lake]

Excess dmg from sg volley go straight to hp since pellets

[sudden drift]

just need to finish museum for the maintenance kits and ill do the badges later

[covert lintel]

Need someone to sacrifice their centi

[vapid lake]

oh centi treasure only need p1 to turn it into crown shield

[raven plover]

I will do museum and maybe let you know.. in a week

[vapid lake]

P2 turns it on at the start forcibly

[coarse lake]

TF is the difference between p1 and no treasure

[vapid lake]

The text "affects all allies" and "affects self"

[sudden drift]

crown shield? so need a healer on the team? sounds like it would limit team comps

[coarse lake]

That'll do nothing

[vapid lake]

good enough for me, i can use it in missilis tower by keeping it at p1
I wont p2 because i'm afraid of the extra feed in spa

[placid bloom]

difference is your opponent see orange doll so they have to predict whether you are feeder or not feeder

[sudden drift]

this guy playing 4D chess

[placid bloom]

they don't know if you are feeder until they attack

[vapid lake]

Damn so smart

[covert lintel]

It might help when she is in stall comp

activation in 9s

[coarse lake]

Minimal diff

Anyone tested priv nuke

[keen vapor]

More %

[sudden drift]

moran wallpaper vs mast? mast always showing off panties

[tulip quest]

Moran pve Meta now also XD

[covert lintel]

I tested against cp deficit noah and lost

[tulip quest]

Better than Dkiller

[cursive rampart]

in pvp or pve?

[coarse lake]

Pvp

[cursive rampart]

in PVE it doesn't do that much damage in itself

haven't tried pvp with her yet

[placid bloom]

does Priv nuke fire slow enough to get FB bonus

[covert lintel]

[vapid lake]

I thought priv nuke is instant in pvp

[keen vapor]

Well don't burst into Noah

[slim hedge]

@restive heart King is on his way to you I think, took him 18 attempts to get past me

[raven plover]

wheres s2 nuke lands during noah shield?

[covert lintel]

47lv diff and cp deficit
What can you expect

[covert lintel]

It got immune

[tulip quest]

Noah n privaty together kinda beats the purpose

[vapid lake]

replying to someone who say priv nuke got delay

[covert lintel]

But the second one on poli proc

[vapid lake]

That dmg pretty good tho for 0 buffer

it's half their hp

[raven plover]

ye I think it also did on noah at the very end, hard to see

[vapid lake]

In deficit

Maybe feed her blanc or rh b1

[covert lintel]

Yeah you're right

[coarse lake]

[covert lintel]

No, the first one gets mitigated through noah invul

[coarse lake]

Hmm, can't even soda it

Delay where they can cast in-between

[unkempt kestrel]

I unlocked centi treasure without reading

[coarse lake]

How far you get

[raven plover]

unlocking is fine

[coarse lake]

Don't read again and go p2

It's good trust

[unkempt kestrel]

isnt unlocking skill 2 shield?

[raven plover]

the 2nd one 3rd one on poli

[coarse lake]

P2 is the s1

[raven plover]

but not s1 force shield so you good

[unkempt kestrel]

ohhh so it takes 9sec before u get a shield? and s1 treasure gives it to u right away

phew

i saw her treasure wall paper and clicked unlocked

[covert lintel]

Oh you're right
So priv can make 3 times s2 in full burst

[raven plover]

yes

[coarse lake]

Meh

Indom priv should still lose to Noah team

[placid bloom]

it's less than 9s, she gets cdr from full charge shot. But earliest should still be like 4RL before you get shield or something

[raven plover]

get walled by biscuit

[covert lintel]

How about indom priv ada?

[placid bloom]

[coarse lake]

You still kill 3 units

[placid bloom]

unless your entire team live until end of indom because of stun I don't think it will matter

[coarse lake]

Also rip gen

[placid bloom]

yeah I think unlikely for Priv to live against SAnis proc if you don't Blanc burst early enough

[pure moss]

@leaden canyon isn't centi's shield active after 9 seconds?

[quick lake]

Priv SAnis meta come back

[coarse lake]

I don't see priv living to burst against good scar straight up

[covert lintel]

Should i put this in CA

[pure moss]

lmk if you win with this comp cuz I might use it next CA

[coarse lake]

Dies to.... Everything

I think you just play priv by treating her as yet another regular nuker tbh

[leaden canyon]

Treasure phase 2 makes it happen right away

[coarse lake]

Unless you trust in rapu enough for a double stun setup to bypass all b2 blocks/indom

[pure moss]

so I should stop at treasure phase 1

[leaden canyon]

Pretty much yeah

[pure moss]

at least she'll have the bp buff

[leaden canyon]

but its a treasure you shouldn't SR 15 her for, if you already had it at SR 15 then yeah just stop at phase 1

[pure moss]

I'm at phase 1

and I sr15 every single one of my pvp nikke

well besides 2 currently at sr10

[north brook]

Wonder if they might attempt to fix it

But idk its just designed by someone who doesnt understand how pvp works

[pure moss]

priv sanis instead of scar seems plausible

[north brook]

Like it could be usable if it was 3s cd or 5s cd at start of combat

[coarse lake]

Priv sanis still a meme

[north brook]

Is priv gen still same? Assuming so

[keen vapor]

Always...

[pure moss]

watch my makeshift scar comp get destroyed

[lone sequoia]

speed scar

noise p1

[pure moss]

trina buffs and invulnerable scar

[lone sequoia]

noise p2 taunt

[pure moss]

hmm

[lone sequoia]

scar p2 for 1RL range or p3 to avoid noah atk debuff (still a cs check)

[quick lake]

Is Moran stonks now. 4 ele 4 atk Moran

[pure moss]

why need ele in pvp

[lone sequoia]

cp boost

[pure moss]

atk crit moran

[lone sequoia]

to me perfect pvp moran was 4DEF, 2atk,4crit rate, 1 ammo and 1 ele--------- 2~4atk work, but now need more ele if you use her pve

so... less crit rate

[pure moss]

moran pve

[quick lake]

Scary moran. Maybe with her B1 buff, Moran’s dmg is better

[keen vapor]

40% attack buff sure, she can life steal more

[lone sequoia]

30% because defender stats

[pure moss]

testing weird comp this season

[keen vapor]

On herself*

[lone sequoia]

no need to heal back if the enemy only deals 1 dmg

[keen vapor]

For your general DPS maybe it gets closer to 20% attack buff

[pure moss]

what do you think

[lone sequoia]

??

[pure moss]

weird Chinese comp

[quick lake]

Needs like 8 crit 4 atk

Gambling on crit chance mostly

[pure moss]

nah I'd win

[lone sequoia]

if you can stall nayuta i'm sure you can stall rh

[pure moss]

that comp is mostly anti sg comp

I lost to mirror sg comp last CA

[lone sequoia]

atk priority or position atk/def diff?

[pure moss]

idk wth I just read but I had more bp

[gritty ridge]

She is now

Meta for raids now

[pure moss]

she's now 20s burst?

[gritty ridge]

Only in pve

Also has 7 sec cdr

And 40% atk buff

[pure moss]

hmm. Imma test that out

does she go well with cindy comp?

[gritty ridge]

For pve?

[pure moss]

ye

[oak hatch]

Moran is insane for pve lol beat ziz easily first try

[gritty ridge]

Shes not replacing rouge for cindy

[pure moss]

then which comp should I use for Moran?

[gritty ridge]

Anywhere you would use dkw

[pure moss]

ah so like fire comp?

[gritty ridge]

Dkw and volume are both gone

[gritty ridge]

Not particularly

[pure moss]

well volume's been gone for ages

[gritty ridge]

Volume was better than dkw

[pure moss]

I use dkw in fire comp in UR

still 29b per hit

[lunar pawn]

considering we got CA now, is moran still the best choice for treasure?

[gritty ridge]

For pvp go moran or priv

Pve its moran/priv/zwei

[umbral crown]

whats your sync frennzy

[oak hatch]

324

[gritty ridge]

Hmmm, thats on the high end for ziz

[umbral crown]

i see isee

[oak hatch]

It’s the second ziz

And I thought 320 is on the low end for ziz

[gritty ridge]

No

Ziz is 301 standard

Can go as low as 281 with absolute

[oak hatch]

Different case for me anyway I had to run this cope team

[gritty ridge]

The humble noah tech

[umbral crown]

besto shieldo indeed

[floral kiln]

So centi treasure is useless huh

And privaty treasure is good in pvp!?

[slender radish]

I can see centi's having use in pvp (which is where she is most viable anyway)

[gritty ridge]

No

Her treasure is actually detrimental

[slender radish]

in what way?

[gritty ridge]

Phase 1 is fine, phase 2 increases enemy gen

[ivory violet]

Has that been confirmed?

[gritty ridge]

I was told yes

[north brook]

yes pretty sure its always been the case

[slender radish]

wish i had known that before i immediately phase 2 her and moran

[gritty ridge]

Oof

[slender radish]

shitup and their treasures lol

[floral kiln]

Good thing I only phase 1 her

[north brook]

things like crown shield/centis skill before didnt matter since the shield is only up when both teams are bursting already

[ivory violet]

So with the enemy splashing shields on p1 and p2 that means an effective 1.5x burst gen for enemy RLs?

[slender radish]

I'm gonna cope and ask for verifiable information on this

[gritty ridge]

The other 3 are good

[north brook]

ya i mean u could test and see how fast u die in rookie with it

[gritty ridge]

Moran and priv shine the most, zwei is gonna get iron raid use for sure

[slender radish]

fml

[gritty ridge]

I will say tho, priv nuke is weaker than expected

[north brook]

shes still weaker than scar without trina by a bit

[gritty ridge]

Outside of fire nikke

Shes a solid nuke for fire nikke

[north brook]

but dmg enough of a chip i could see some comps being able to utilize it

[floral kiln]

Guess build Moran and privaty then sheesh

[gritty ridge]

She counters slow cindy

[north brook]

ya her stun still can disrupt anything on a timer, like indoms or slower teams, so theres potential

think shes still bit too weak to solo carry tho

but her dmg gone from nonexistent to decent

[gritty ridge]

Well she instakills rumani so unless they have p1/maybe p2 rumani dies

[rapid nacelle]

Got this ideal pvp comp mockup from @leaden canyon , but just pulled Scarlet. Where should I slot her in?

[gritty ridge]

Nayuta

But it would require a whole rework

Dont use her

[rapid nacelle]

o7

[gritty ridge]

Shes not worth using in spa anymore

2rl cindy is also kinda obsolete but thats fine

[floral kiln]

Ouch

[gaunt sentinel]

oh no i need help to make team for this

[umbral crown]

@umbral belfry @tropic summit @shell hazel MoranT is the best thing that happened this year...

[restive heart]

[umbral crown]

now phase 3 moran

[hollow lagoon]

MN