pvp-arena

[restive heart]

i somehow forgot the meaning of RL

its just rocket launcher…

[magic dust]

For charged speed, is it that it needs to be between 15 and 25%? Or does that mean that I need to have at least that on each gear?

[north brook]

More cs improves one units speed slightly

[lunar pawn]

a lot of people lost their bets

[north brook]

But u need to see which unit on the team is slowest usually if u want more speed

[glad meteor]

snipe was too close

[north brook]

Tbh dont worry about cs much until it comes up

[haughty mortar]

I think I've seen this lineup but can someone give me some advise?

[lunar pawn]

tvesti indom, watch out for who you put in p5

[restive heart]

that cp gap

[still storm]

@tropic summit need a new defense, got pushed down to rank 5

[haughty mortar]

So replace RRH with Vesti? The gap will increase

[restive heart]

whats the jp stall team again?

morah-nero-??-??-??

[ivory violet]

Well when you mark a unit as having that charge speed in the bottom left in nikke-deck that's what it means, one of those percentages. Not necessary but it can make some 3RL teams 2.5RL and stuff like that

[north brook]

Scar

[north brook]

Nero moran helmT rapu mana/lapT/quiry/flex

Requires maxed nero and moran

Or close

It could wall someone who doesnt know what they are doing but notably with vesti, swha, and lib its usage has gone down since all 3 can break the supports before they stack dr enough

[shell hazel]

nero seems out of favour lately I don't think I'd build her now

[north brook]

Slow cindy comp was also made to beat it

Ya id not really, would need a 2nd HelmT unit to bring its speed up and still have another healer slot

That team mainly just dunks on fast cindy/scar/sanis teams that lack durability/sustain

[noble python]

Tell it to me straight is it even worth it to try or am I cooked chat?

[north brook]

U could try his comps are garbage

Likely just need a nayu block and bisc defender block with good enough speed

[glad meteor]

Off burst blanc

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/gov8Qe6PvKg?si=hpe7cAoXZg44MD3C

[glad meteor]

What’s your vesti ol , i thought she woulda killed noah or lib

[north brook]

Think hes mainly atk cs not as much elem? Idr

[spiral onyx]

4x CS + 4x ATK

Elemental is unreliable imo

My VestT-Emilia-Laplace team isn't strong enough to kill in 2RL time, especially against a Noise team. And Noah just blocked VestiT's burst

[umbral belfry]

ele would've killed em

talking from personal experience though, i'm 4 atk 4 ele 2 cs, i personally care less for a lot of vesti cs

ele is more valuable to me for killing noah/lib

[gritty ridge]

Thats why you go the proper route

4 atk 3 ele 3 cs

[spiral onyx]

Gimme 500 more rocks kthxbai

[gritty ridge]

Ill just let you borrow my vesti

[spiral onyx]

I'm more interested in rolling 4 CS 4Atk 4 crit

I'm surprised how hard his VestiT hit even with all my units wearing SR15 dolls

[gritty ridge]

Going the rosy route i see

[spiral onyx]

My SR15 doll + Tempering cube Moran did not survive shot 4

Helm and Lib died on shot 2

[gritty ridge]

Well I mean, absolute vesti hits like a truck

[spiral onyx]

Yeah but I did not expect it to hit that hard in CA

I'll consider it after we see how the new Treasures look

Cause it's quite an investment

I don't have enough resources atm

[shell hazel]

I got 1 rock today, zanta stole all my rocks

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry gib rock when?

[hollow lagoon]

I deserve the 2 rock I got 0 yesterday

[umbral belfry]

mine

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

no Hime those were our rocks 🙁

[umbral belfry]

[hollow lagoon]

Take from your real husbando @tropic summit

[shell hazel]

[haughty mortar]

Will try again later. Target was shoved back a few places, out of my reach

[umbral crown]

Indeed is, and if you have high ele things would be hard for wind units

But its mostly how well invested vesti is

Also remember vesti has true damage, that means moran defense not gonna do much

[lone sequoia]

no, cindy is older than helm treasure for like 1+month, blanc/cindy is an older comp and mihara is just a safe there, DR team was double taunt team and it was to counter sanis, there were other options for more generic stall comps that used biscuit for nero/moran for those teams were to fight slower comps, helm treasure changed the team to current DR comp because the speed and free stacks for nero
also... most of those teams or the ones people use right now are older teams that became popular, but they keep the same synergy, only swha or label teams are "new"

[umbral crown]

Absolute giving vesti more true damage and buff and ada to buff Ein, in my bracket Ein indom with ada is making a come back

[lone sequoia]

time to stack more HP

[umbral crown]

When Keripo s Moran could not survive against Absolute means we nned to hope MoranT will make her tankier

[haughty mortar]

My Centi will be ready for her T come next week. Doubt she'll be worse than now. I need 1 Moran copy.

[umbral crown]

And few people notice but Eunwha burst really deals decent amount of damage

[haughty mortar]

Come on, now. We all know the squad is Absolute copium and only Vesti is of use.

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

i don't think a burst gen unit can get worse... now imagine moran get a soft nerf because SU think something will make her better

[haughty mortar]

I wouldn't put anything beyond SU. They don't know how to code, let alone how to make things good. Just look at Milk treasure.

[umbral crown]

Check Eunwha Damage

[lone sequoia]

2 years waiting a DEF fix

[lone sequoia]

+2 years waiting for CA and less than 0.1% of players can play

[haughty mortar]

Musta been investing in her and have nothing better.

[lone sequoia]

normal attack/ele diff?

[umbral crown]

Shes already max skill with 4 crit rate( which one of them is black) 1 blue atk

[lone sequoia]

my helmt hit for like +2m neutral (normal atk at 641 sync)

[umbral crown]

But the pics are from CA, 2nd pic was neutral since she eas hitting Laplace

[lone sequoia]

that is what i was saying, good dmg but neutral in that ss

[umbral crown]

Oh yeah

[hollow lagoon]

Speaking of neutral

[lone sequoia]

time to fish for higher crit rate tier

[hollow lagoon]

I managed to swha+helm neutural mirrior container interception to stage 7

Only electric unit was naga

My current helm is bit low on the ele but Eah whatever

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

gz

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t roll my eunhwa but seems ok

[umbral crown]

Nice

[lone sequoia]

i did each boss 2 (first day mock + 1 time for title) times, indivillia 1 (1st day mock) but it is kraken farm everyday

[umbral crown]

Im still working on eunwha lines for 4 atk ele and crit

[hollow lagoon]

I’m getting low on gear

But I’m also low on rock

[umbral crown]

Did not you get the pack with 30?

[hollow lagoon]

Where’s the pack with 30?

[umbral crown]

Was on new years for like a month

[hollow lagoon]

I prob did

[umbral crown]

Ended before velvet banner was up me thinks

Or label

I think was before label

[hollow lagoon]

Wouldent matter I’m always out

[umbral crown]

I ran out of free locks

[lone sequoia]

time to save rocks, set the floor to 1k

enough for 2 ele lines and 1 atk if you ask SU

[fast nest]

I need crit rate and crit dmg

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

Go invest on her

Besto waifu

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-bochi-bochi-the-rock-pink-hair-gif-27013265

[hollow lagoon]

[umbral crown]

Good thing keripo has them C7, its just some investments in ol and dolls

[wild hemlock]

Wow can't believe even Helm died on the 2nd rocket I've never seen absolute comp hit that hard before

[spiral onyx]

We about to get 4 new treasures and collab units, so...

[umbral crown]

But at least 3 of 4 from the treasure units are max doll .. Moran,Centi and maybe Privaty so no much to worry about

[spiral onyx]

Privaty needs SR5 -> SR15 doll but that's it. Moran and Centi are maxed out

[umbral crown]

just the collabs

[spiral onyx]

Who was the 4th again

[umbral crown]

just some luck with 20 blues and you are done

Trust the process

[umbral crown]

Zwei

[spiral onyx]

She would need a full kit rehaul for PvP usefulness

[umbral crown]

indeed

do not think SU wanna force pierce damage meta

[restive heart]

oh dayum. anyways thanks

[restive heart]

im thinking which unit i sr15 first.

centi or priv?

[ivory violet]

Wait for kits

[restive heart]

aight

anyways theyre alr both sr5

[fast nest]

New museum will open at the next update. Maybe 2 SR15 could be obtained.

[restive heart]

oooh

[primal charm]

can nayuta nuke with rh b1 buff work chat?

how that run against noise/moran pretecting

[umbral crown]

Good, gonna SR15 Ada with those kits

[spiral onyx]

Privaty could be a complete miss btw

So no guarantee she will be worth it

Cent and Moran are already PvP meta

[umbral crown]

I will just go with safe route, Moran and Centi

The rest can wait

[spiral onyx]

So unless they do something like re-enter burst, they are likely going to be upgrades

[umbral crown]

[spiral onyx]

Centi might just get a buff to her shield skill but maintain the same cooldown, which would make her skills useless for PvP still

But we'll see

[umbral crown]

Moran probably tankier

[spiral onyx]

If Privaty got a burst gen increase and damage increase that would be good enough for meta I think

[umbral crown]

i think so, i have never used privaty so can not really tell

[north brook]

Ya think moran more likely to just be still good but better

Centi could get something in her kit to actually make her a real b2 consideration, or could be like bay/poli where its something but not much

Priv mainly needs numbers, her kit is good but dated

The thing that made priv drop off was no burst gen + no damage

[stuck pike]

Privaty has damage but its single target and stun conditional aka doomed for bosses

[north brook]

She has at best chip dmg, even in pvp when her skills work

[stuck pike]

Its nearly 1.1k% final atk when last bullet hits a stunned target. Thats not really chip damage at all, but its also her only reasonable damage.

[north brook]

She gets enough stun time for 1~2 procs at best, its really pathetic when 10kish is just average

[restive heart]

[stuck pike]

Most ar hit around 14%.
14 x 10 = 140.
140 x 3s = 420%

As I said, almost all of her dps comes off of that last bullet. I wasn't lying that its decent but she does no other damage besides it basically

[north brook]

No its always been barely existent, never even decent

[restive heart]

[stuck pike]

Its st

[restive heart]

did 30 gold, nothing
did 20 purple, nothing
did 10 blue, sr5 to sr10

like bro...

[wild hemlock]

When do we get the new treasures?

[wild hemlock]

oh...

Got all excited for nothing

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

[raven plover]

its next update

[umbral crown]

just trust

[umbral crown]

but the news of the new new treasures

[tropic summit]

next update better be next chapters so i can actually play the game

[umbral crown]

you already play on everyones account doing pvp

Auto and hope for the best is part of Trusting the process

[tropic summit]

right... if only...

[umbral crown]

meanwhile sp bracket is chill, pelg already settle on C4 so back to log to collect chips and thats it

[tropic summit]

noone would want to mess with the Rosy anyway

[umbral crown]

C3 knows the way but pelg kinda forgot and went to try his luck, even copying my defense exactly looks like he could not do the thing anymore

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

casuals, they can only mimic a fraction of your strength

[tropic summit]

run 3 among these:
#pvp-arena message

try comps you haven't ran yet and that involve SWHA and VestiTU, also use only teams that are 2RL or 2.5RL with nuke resistance (moran/noise)

[umbral belfry]

[wild hemlock]

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit look, we have Rail Treasure

[tropic summit]

RailT

[swift mango]

redo, this 10% wont hold

[slim hedge]

@restive heart He's here finally, the teams you mentioned are holding for now

[umbral crown]

i know but we still have 3 days

RailT is a thing now

when BloodT

[manic gate]

Is liberalio and sbs good when paired up in pvp?

[tropic summit]

no

[manic gate]

Too slow?

[tropic summit]

lib is standalone nuker, SBS can be situationally used as optional indom

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-16110706635095326137

[restive heart]

@slim hedge

i think jhasu ranked down you LOL

[tropic summit]

player 3 joins the game

[slim hedge]

Nope it was still King and then the other guy got him I guess

[restive heart]

LOL

[restive heart]

jhasu is waiting for a right timing

spoke to the araeru guy. he did hit 661. so KING will struggle due to cp gap

@subtle sluice is this u?

[slim hedge]

I mean his CP is like 100k below everyone in the top 5 but he'll just keep refreshing until an attempt works lol

[restive heart]

[cunning crown]

Back in the trenches with this relentless alice

[tropic summit]

i'd use a different adjective

for someone who'd rather spend 10k gems than learn how to 1+1 there's a more fitting one

[slim hedge]

Anyone has some suggestion about what my best 3 defense teams could be? I'm only missing Velvet basically, can upgrade some Nikkes if needed too

[upbeat dock]

I feel like I’ve seen this exact image multiple times this past week… what a bizarre being

[restive heart]

@tropic summit cook him teams

[upbeat dock]

Surely that money could go into buying coredust packs instead

[tropic summit]

he's in your bracket, all yours

[restive heart]

[restive heart]

i think he doesnt know those things existed

if he reach enlightment that spending money on pvp instead of buying coredust packs is not profitable, its the end of the world

[tropic summit]

imagine when he discovers he can surf the internet to learn about burst gen and counters

https://klipy.com/gifs/mind-blown-shocked-2

[restive heart]

imagine if he can read LOL

[subtle sluice]

yes, hi everyone
Hi nigth

[restive heart]

OH LOL dayum hello! ❤️

[tropic summit]

half the top 5 is here of that bracket

[restive heart]

you dont have rosanna right?

or im just blind

[tropic summit]

she's right here... the wrong one tho

[restive heart]

the top 2 guy. is on the blabla. but i dont think he has discord

[long chasm]

Counter?

His moran always survive

[subtle sluice]

I've known King for 18 months

[slim hedge]

I have no interest in the top spot so that's all Devilish, I just want to be a better roadblock for King since he likes to waste money

[slim hedge]

You a little blind yeah, I'm only missing Velvet

Or well Rosanna is not in the pictures I guess, but she's down there somewhere

[restive heart]

jackal-vesti-tHelm-blanc-emilia or laplace

hp cube on tHelm blanc and emilia or laplace
tempering on jackal vesti

[tropic summit]

that guy has way too many enemies

[restive heart]

holy f-

[slim hedge]

What's up, yeah I've seen you around for a long time now. Not as long as I've seen King though

[long chasm]

Fail

[subtle sluice]

I just want my fourth place, but King keeps attacking me.

[restive heart]

@slim hedge

[slim hedge]

I've been happily maintaining 6th place for the last year or so and hardly anyone even attacked me anymore until recently. That's how I ended up in this chat since a few days ago and discovered that I'm not the only one that's very familar with KING

[restive heart]

just get 3rd or something. araeru is set at 4th

[tropic summit]

noah siren biscuit vestiTU helmT

[restive heart]

[long chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/trickal-speaky-trickal-speaky-cry-gif-6807327247121439836

[long chasm]

Random cube?

[tropic summit]

you should be lethal on noah, if they're B2less they're screwed

noah tempering
siren tempering
biscuit vigor
VestiTU any
helmT any

vesti is assumed 5%+CS

[lone rapids]

help rookie def team

[slim hedge]

I assume you meant to use the charge speed icon on Emilia not the treasure icon? How much charge speed does she need

[tropic summit]

run this in rookie

[long chasm]

🥰🥰🥰

[tropic summit]

yep bye bye noah

[long chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/trickcal-revive-嘟嘟臉惡作劇-柯米-kommy-gif-3605852677268932117

[spiral onyx]

So I did some testing

Absolute squad is meh in SP Arena at my synchro

meaning its pretty much CA scaling in effect that makes it so strong in CA

this checks out with my previous assumptions where at higher synchro the relative strengths of different teams start changing

[tropic summit]

isn't that team main strength true damage? higher synchro means higher base HP and thus less scaling of true damage perhaps?

def% iirc also scales better on later synchro

[spiral onyx]

Yeah, its mainly the higher base HP. Not sure about true damage scaling

But part of the reason why I dismissed it first, my initial tests in SP Arena were not impressive to me

[north brook]

Ya lvl 400 still relatively low bulk meta

[spiral onyx]

But seeing it in action in CA with the lvl 400 synchro is changing my mind

I might not even need to go crit spec, just the raw non-crit dmg may be enough, we'll see

I have a slight recycling room advantage

But a pretty huge core count advantage

So I might be able to get away without needing to respec my Vesti for crit

[fast nest]

489

[torn obsidian]

just a slight recycling room advantage

[nimble root]

[swift mango]

When I get makima.

[swift mango]

That's good advantage but I think I have seen bigger.

if only your Vesti was pilgrim.

[spiral onyx]

my Pilgrim is capped

I'll probably start dumping into Elysion now

[primal charm]

Can anyone explain bay linked?

Why

[north brook]

Theres a cap???

[primal charm]

I mean bay linked jackal

[north brook]

How does that work, is it level based or sync based?

[spiral onyx]

its capped based on your middle

which is capped on your synchro

[north brook]

So like it cant go to 490 because that is the cap on it?

[swift mango]

Relatives to his own synch level

If he got higher synch level it could go higher

[north brook]

Ya so hp recycle upgrade always limits the others to being lower level than it

Weird it doesnt cap them at the same level, 490, but 489

[swift mango]

Oh so that's what you are talking about, nice find.

[north brook]

Thats what i was asking about

[restive heart]

[glad meteor]

Number 5 union name

[runic coral]

help on beating this guy

[brazen salmon]

hi all want to ask does this JJ guy has infinite SP entry count?

[rustic sandal]

Buying attempts using gems.

He's whale and wants to be at the top.

[brazen salmon]

thanks guess i wait next day 3.59 am to keep attacking him and forced him to spent more gems

[rustic sandal]

Making them spend that much gems is already a win.

Oh lEMme sPeND 2000 GEmS to gEt tO cH1 aNd wIN 3000 gEMs InStEAd.

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit the korean is catching up bru

456 already it was supposed to be 160 gap and now its less than 150

[brazen salmon]

yea this season i cant get 3k gems but if i let him wasted that much gems feels good for me also

[rustic sandal]

Definitely. You're doing aight.

[bleak shale]

If you want an example, see exhibit A of this

138 million defense....

[shell hazel]

isn't this guy in your union @swift mango ?

[ruby iris]

For defense too

What team could I use to counter this? SW manages to kill cindy at the last second of the burst

[bleak shale]

Max your tactical vesti

[ruby iris]

She's pretty good but the team needs to survive till the end of blanc's burst rip

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit helmt ros jackal (rosanna 7/10/10, 40%ak, 20-40%ele)
noah biscuit helmt siren vestiTU
jackal scarlet laplaceT blanc centi

[tropic summit]

he's about to whip your butteroni

finally time to dust ch1 throne

[ruby iris]

Wow that 1st team slaps thx, I had completely forgotten about rosanna

[tropic summit]

whenever you see jackal and water codes, rosanna is already salivating and getting wet

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-your-best-anime

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nikke-fa8eQmZ4GXde7trWRK

[tropic summit]

this is not SR, your rank can actually go higher here the more ppl play, mine actually improved since the last 8 hours

sauce: #1413033483542073404 message

[runic coral]

help beating this guy?

[tropic summit]

your teams are on the left, teams assumed NOT in deficit

[runic coral]

my vesti team is in deficit 😭

[restive heart]

@subtle sluice @slim hedge king is on attacking spree

[hollow lagoon]

The #2 is being lazy

[slim hedge]

Looks like it took him 4 attempts to break the latest changes

[foggy light]

Could I get any good team lineups for SP arena?

[swift mango]

@shell hazel

Bro join recently and was on this chat often before that. @noble hatch

[swift mango]

@glad meteor So you are fake . The real K has appeared.

[swift mango]

Maybe only in global

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Sometime it's about sending a message. @umbral crown

[dim escarp]

[swift mango]

Good luck next time

[glad meteor]

I used to be nihilistic about people spending gems on sp, but I think its whatever now.

[swift mango]

People just wasted their game if they already can get to CA.

But whatever make them have fun.

[glad meteor]

Some people just want to be at the top, they dont even care about CA

[swift mango]

It's more about luck and money, you can't gem if you are F2P and broke

[raven plover]

@covert lintel

[glad meteor]

Yeah, if F2P and broke just gotta deal with it and focus on PVE if in bad bracket

[swift mango]

I spent 1680 gem per 2 week to gem claim already. My earning from SpA is less than C10.

[glad meteor]

I used to think I won if I made my opponent gem. But at the end of the day I lost my position. So it doesnt really matter

[swift mango]

They gem the dev win. You lose position, you lose. You aren't winning anything.

[glad meteor]

Exactly

[formal quiver]

@valid inlet ggs was close I think the camera was a little silly I can't tell if I crit Rosa or not

[covert lintel]

i told you Ziegler is super strong

[swift mango]

[lusty gull]

[glad meteor]

Another win

[swift mango]

pretty normal. The cheer rate I mean

[raven plover]

[lusty gull]

explain

[swift mango]

Unless you won 5/0. The other guys higher level and CN

[swift mango]

yeah, no 5-0

[lusty gull]

[glad meteor]

Bro lost CA because his scar couldnt kill

Soda didnt stun noise either

Though I feel like noise would burst after just after her stun ends

[daring gust]

Finally all win cheer frame after 100 beta seasons champion mode. Ty shuya

[swift mango]

First time I'm glad to fail a cheer that's not cheering my opponent.

[glad meteor]

@umbral crown @rich quail

Its a ghost 👻

[swift mango]

Now time for you to win CA once

[daring gust]

Nah no gem reward no party

[hollow lagoon]

i get canceled by rng

[primal haven]

Can someone help me with building teams to beat this guy?

[valid inlet]

Congrats I think it was not close, I won't win unless I have a different setup, congrats for your first frame!

I hear your union is betting about the result

[onyx scaffold]

ty for 6h credits

[covert lintel]

This team win rate is pretty high
Only lost 2 time

[swift mango]

Be me, lost to no burst 2sg twice

[covert lintel]

That 5 sg?

[swift mango]

even 4+ tove

[covert lintel]

if he has viper non treasure, it would be stronger

[swift mango]

I think next CA I will just fix the shit teams this season out of all the bad arrangements.

[swift mango]

I lost to 4 b3 or 5 b3

[shell hazel]

damn the label in t1 was a killer 🙁

[covert lintel]

I also need to fix the moran team
That team is always backstabbed by sg

[shell hazel]

unlucky jaw it was a good effort!

[dim escarp]

tyty

[shell hazel]

we get CA shuffle now I believe could have a whole new set of people but unsure how much will change

tenshi is a tough customer though and 3-2 was close!

[ivory ore]

Finally getting higher even tho idk what I'm doing really 😭😭

[hybrid fox]

is it possible if I move Besti to team 2 and try if I can win there and use another burst gen in team 3
but would that lose because I cant kill in time w/ Besti's autos? (I alr win team 1, 3) just asking

dam rakuen rank 2

[ivory ore]

Why is ya Scarlet not with Trina?

[hybrid fox]

trina is there for burst gen
and team 2 is a random bullcrap go

[swift mango]

this isn't attribute reroll

[lone sequoia]

gz

[onyx scaffold]

congraz

[swift mango]

I should have locked the ele line 1. And got that line 2 atk. would have been perfect

[onyx scaffold]

who

[swift mango]

Laplace, she doesn't really need Ele aside from killing Biscuit and trina p2 but I wanted atk line, Crit, crit dmg, ele would be fine instead of charge dmg. It was ele slot 1 before I reroll

[supple mantle]

You’re getting out combat powered bad

[onyx scaffold]

Nah

[supple mantle]

Your teams are good, you just need to doll up Rumani, Jackal, Noah, etc so they don’t instantly die

[onyx scaffold]

Oh shit i didn't see the 2nd pic

[primal haven]

in that team, Cindy’s burst couldn’t do any damage somehow

*major damage

[gaunt pulsar]

you in severe deficit on that one

[glad meteor]

Stat penalty

[primal haven]

didn’t know that is also a thing in pvp

[onyx scaffold]

Goodluck
But u need to cool for me a set that can beat Bas7ail

[primal haven]

dangit

[supple mantle]

Yep just doll up the other units and you’ll start winning

You should at least

[primal haven]

alright then

[swift mango]

it's mostly just luck.

[onyx scaffold]

Nah I doubt I could win with even best luck

I dont invest in pvp enough to deserve a win

[swift mango]

You could actually cook to win 5/5 against his champ team if you are allowed to pick what you fight.

[tulip quest]

improvement

i took me like 20 rocks just to get a random 3rd line for SNOW H.A

improvement is always good

[swift mango]

nah I need crit crit dmg or ele

[tulip quest]

I see 20 more rocks then I guess? XD

[swift mango]

I only roll line 1. Statistics wise it only take 9

[tulip quest]

IF only my gacha luck was that

I pulled 150 velvet gold ticket

now COLLAB comes 3k gems im screwed

[swift mango]

I did 150 no Elegg

[tulip quest]

u mean water elegg?

[swift mango]

ofc

Elegg I rerolled for her. Took 6 accounts

[tulip quest]

boom

[tulip quest]

u wanna test comps that bad? for pvp?

[swift mango]

I started this game on elegg event. I liked her so I reroll for her. The reason I'm chatting here is thanks to Elegg

[tulip quest]

woooo didn't knew

I started nier auto

saw 2b n a2 got Pascal

[swift mango]

Gimme your bracket champ guy teams btw.

[umbral crown]

Soon, trust the process

[umbral crown]

Indeed, sometimes we need to spend more than 3k gems

[shell hazel]

tenshi won on def (right)

steals Jawdrops homework

[umbral crown]

Uwu, its sad how besto besti left us without a word

[shell hazel]

besto besti

https://tenor.com/view/vesti-nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-9933780726711905127

[umbral crown]

But glad he is still around doing well

[glad meteor]

:oldge:

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

You are not alone

[shell hazel]

you trying to add atk?

[umbral crown]

Yes

[shell hazel]

I've actually saved some rocks but I'm waiting to see how treasures and colab etc is

and what next solo raid is

[glad meteor]

Apparently collab is electric right

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[shell hazel]

electric needs a lot of help

[umbral crown]

Thats pve

[shell hazel]

I'm shooting range main now

[umbral crown]

Like rail

HipposT

[shell hazel]

exactly

[glad meteor]

When CN Rosy

[shell hazel]

I was under 2% solo raid last time

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

Next CA , trust the process

[umbral crown]

I would never

[glad meteor]

Hippos going to be top200 soon

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

top 0.5% if I can get there

[glad meteor]

Put your hands up if you love pve

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

btw don't forget co-op is up

[glad meteor]

Oh ye

I forgor

[shell hazel]

no froget 🐸

[glad meteor]

They dont compensate bones for people that spend all of them

[umbral crown]

Do we have FBW today?

[shell hazel]

yeah that was dumb

[glad meteor]

Prob nah

[umbral crown]

Uwu

EmmaT needs books

[hollow lagoon]

I wanna be in 3%

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

Sus

[glad meteor]

Sus indeed

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[supple mantle]

Cheer frame obtained

Now to get an arena winner one in the future

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

[still storm]

are these bad?

[glad meteor]

T3 is sus

[still storm]

I was trying to focre 2RL on all teams

[glad meteor]

Better to burst helm prob

[still storm]

I n that case use RH instead of noise?

[glad meteor]

RH/rosanna maybe

[covert lintel]

Vesti water?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/always-has-been-among-us

[still storm]

rip now I have oine 2,5 RL team and 2 RL

[tropic summit]

2.5RL is fine as long as you've a B1 noise/moran

[still storm]

nvm forget to consider 15% cs on tvesti

[glad meteor]

It’ll be 2rl if its the jackal team you’re referring to

Jackal feed

[still storm]

Anything I'm missing? went Drake for power padding

[tropic summit]

T1 only vestiTU as your main B3 and she's p2, very rosannable
T2 is looking rather weak, lib main B3 is bad
T3 overcommited, SWHA would be a better B3 in T2

[restive heart]

[shell hazel]

cheating with emilia I see

[restive heart]

dont like that t1 and t2

someone will use scar + rosanna nuke that t1 and t2 using indom vesti + siren

[still storm]

What If i don't have a 25% cs emilia

[restive heart]

you dont need to force all 3 teams 2rl

[shell hazel]

time travel!?

https://tenor.com/view/delorean-time-travel-back-to-the-future-marty-mc-fly-gif-11295533

[onyx scaffold]

Seriously, though, are you EVER going to improve Arena? Fortunately, the reward for Rookie Arena don't matter, but it's still frustrating to daily rank below people who could never beat me, just because the few people above me attack me repeatedly. Have you ever even looked at the systems in any other games? Normally, fights are random, and rankings are based on the overall records. People don't just attack the one person they can beat five times in a row.

Special Arena actually matters, so it's even more frustrating. In my bracket, #2-10 or so would be more or less tied in any normal system. But here, it matters who attacks you and when, especially since in the top 10 you can only attack three spots above them.

And overall, the attacker has such a massive advantage that you just can't defend against someone with a similar power level.

Arena is so ridiculously bad, it really seems like your goal was to make it bad. And if you're not going to care, you should just take it down. It's pretty much just a dumb source of stress.

[shell hazel]

I'm fixing it as fast as I can!

[tropic summit]

best i can do is release a unit that removes them from meta when used on defense, but god forbid nerfing attack

[shell hazel]

Rail

[tropic summit]

Tav

[shell hazel]

how is it going fellow factory employee?

[restive heart]

you want to have an optimal build that balances both teams and burst gen

forcing yourself to do 3 2rl team while sacrificing some units are not optimal

[glad meteor]

SU Nerfing attack is just introducing op pvp unit to give whale advantage through raw stats

[tropic summit]

just scrap arena and remake it altogether in an actual fun and interactive mode?

[restive heart]

union pvp mode

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/laimu-vtuber-limealicious-gif-18083357063565355288

[restive heart]

bro keeps deranking LOL

[shell hazel]

they could do more with it but I don't really mind it being essentially an unimportant side mode

[restive heart]

he came back from top 9 to top 1 6hrs ago and now he ranked down to top 13

[still storm]

@tropic summit @restive heart wat about this

[restive heart]

i think this king guys spends atleast 100k to 150k plus gems per year in just pvp alone

[tropic summit]

for you sitting on ch1 for months in a row yeah, some other ppl actually gotta put a bit of effort to retain gem income from that

[shell hazel]

if they make it too good then more people will want to try on it but then whales just win anyway

[high stream]

Can you set up notifications when u're defeated in SP Arena?

[shell hazel]

I'd rather they put more effort into other areas of the game

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 look better, T3 why lib again? also that's little threat, add rosanna or rh with nayuta

[shell hazel]

but half the team moved to project witches so nikke feels a bit like it's in bare minimum maintenance mode

source: i made it up but could also be true

[still storm]

trying to force 2RL on that, maybe centi and rumani are enough

[still storm]

also is t2 very vulnarable to Label?

[tropic summit]

what's label gonna do against SWHA?

[still storm]

hope this is finally good enough

[tropic summit]

looks good on all teams, fix positioning on T2 and T3

T2 moran noah trina swha noise (resistance to p3 dmg dealers, SWHA stays full HP)
T3 nayuta centi helmt rh rumani (you don't need centi so far back)

[restive heart]

im kinda bit skeptical on t2 but ehh if it works it works

[tropic summit]

neither yours or his are undefeatable teams, because in this game such thing doesn't exist unless CP gapped

just make them as hard as possible with what units he has invested

[still storm]

speaking of that will chapter 43/44 change that? I'm 28k core dust away from 681

[restive heart]

did a bit of editing. imma try this when i get defeated by king again

@tropic summit what do you think?

[tropic summit]

he's gonna struggle with these, give the man some slack

another 10k gems worth of attempts incoming

[still storm]

for me do I wait for reset to get my p2 back

[tropic summit]

dunno depends on your rivals progression

[swift mango]

what effort

[tropic summit]

if they keeping up, as long as they stay away from cp deficit range, they can hit any team you make

[tropic summit]

effort in dealing with gemmers and whels

[still storm]

they're at sync 657

[swift mango]

what if they don't exist.

[tropic summit]

assuming they pvp invest, 30 levels difference is still doable

they get their cp boost at 661 either way

[tropic summit]

then you've a blessed bracket

[tropic summit]

but i heard rapunzel doesn't come to people with those brackets @swift mango

[swift mango]

good, I'm not in one of those

[tropic summit]

oh you're all in range of each others, welcome to the jungle

[tropic summit]

[still storm]

so uh wait for reset then?

[tropic summit]

not gonna change much

you're stuck with those ppl one way or another unless they quit

[swift mango]

just spent 120 gem a day to gem claim

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aplausos-we-got-everything-you-want-gif-5952675

[still storm]

meant for hitting p2

[tropic summit]

ye sure, sniperoni always helps

[still storm]

ie not worth wasing my gems on

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel snek is utter bullsh*t

[swift mango]

open you boxes

[tropic summit]

easy 521 clear

but 508 i'm getting murdered

MF just needs to sneeze and someone dies

[swift mango]

gimme your mlb anchor

[shell hazel]

here's me hoping to clear after 501 lol

[swift mango]

good luck with that

try max core everyone and 100% ele SW

[swift mango]

maybe you could clear at 508 hippo, your account is better than rail

[tropic summit]

he's ultra wheled up for this

legit could have a chance he has more CP than i do with 20+ levels behind

[swift mango]

so much with editing, numbers is burry .

[odd lantern]

Hi I've a question about this champ arena battle, why didn't noah get revived?

[tropic summit]

what's there to hide

[tropic summit]

rosanna removes iron from mana, your revive is no longer gonna happen

since iron is considered a "buff"

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/rajini-jklkulfy-rajinikanth-thalaivar-superstar-gif-16091473

[swift mango]

what CP swapping Mast with crown?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/how-paapabutterfly

[shell hazel]

just do it

[odd lantern]

Thanks. that mechanic's lame though lol

[restive heart]

using this weird ahh team rn. welp goodluck to me tommorow cuz i need to sleep now

[tropic summit]

yeah bad luck on your matchup, that's CA

[odd lantern]

I just lost 6x credits that's all lol

[tropic summit]

he's gonna attack you now that you go sleep

[swift mango]

Darn probably the only time I have much lower cp than you at the same level.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hatsune-miku-skill-issue-1

in your defense, my SWHA is ultra swole

[glad meteor]

Technically you could roll atk ol on helm sw so mana doesn’t get dispelled, but mana also has atk buff in her kit so its hard. Mana needs to have lower atk

[restive heart]

he is offline now hopefully he wont be awake

[tropic summit]

he actually sleeps

[restive heart]

he is generating money passively and whales when he wakes up

[shell hazel]

crown instead of mast may just work

[tropic summit]

i still get murdered

[placid bloom]

he should be paying someone to babysit arena for him 24/7

he didn't learn the technology yet

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bitconnect-scam-bitcoin-gif-11287942

[odd lantern]

Thanks - that's not my account though, I didn't invest in CA haha

[restive heart]

[placid bloom]

damn such dedication

[odd lantern]

Did you photoshop the name out?

[placid bloom]

one day we will have the final showdown between Crow and Lilith

and you will do us proud

[shell hazel]

game be like: take a photo of the kid
me: OK you want another pic of last rite got it

[tropic summit]

simp

just give me rosetti already

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/that-what-a-simp-would-say-pewdiepie-simp-gif-20150978

[restive heart]

no its not…

[swift mango]

is there still 6* selector available if I made an account now?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3

[placid bloom]

tbh that Crow have too much hit rate, she might actually kill someone with her shot one day

[swift mango]

is the game fully 1 person or have coop, pvp, ladder?

[shell hazel]

I do believe so yes

[odd lantern]

one day crow will merge with the queen and be mega crow

[shell hazel]

it's single player

become as factory man

[glad meteor]

[odd lantern]

endfield is single player? Really? can consider then because I'm too lazy to do pvp stuff on another gacha

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel hold on, i made progress i can live the double spray if i've tempering on (crown and helmt didn't have it)

[swift mango]

lemme check if there is any character I like

[restive heart]

bricked helm no cs

[glad meteor]

@umbral crown competition

[tropic summit]

i see hope

i can see the urn

all i need is le tempering

[glad meteor]

Imagine having a dps with + 100 ele. Couldnt be me

Max i got is like 90 something

[tropic summit]

behold my whel powers

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102755814529306644/1429698515323584583/hsr-.gif

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/everknight-evernight

[shell hazel]

yes so far 100% - even if they did add another mode pvp seems last on their list of anything

not even co-op yet and that feels like more what they'd want to do next

[glad meteor]

Have you seen bla bla reccomended page

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I've been enjoying endfield enough as f2p

[odd lantern]

hax

[restive heart]

ele build noah

[glad meteor]

Wot in the hackermans page

[tropic summit]

i just rerolled now, easy x8 black lines

[glad meteor]

We have label cosplayer

[shell hazel]

1192%

[tropic summit]

[odd lantern]

blabla can access banned accounts?

[tropic summit]

ok this is probably enough

[restive heart]

[swift mango]

Okay none.

[tropic summit]

enough to wipe earth, the moon and mars with a SWHA B3

[shell hazel]

people not taking my dispatches as much anymore Rail 🙁

[odd lantern]

low ATK, bricked account

[tropic summit]

they still do with mine

[shell hazel]

last one took some hours to go

[tropic summit]

imagine having to walk from A to B everyday, multiple times a day

what is this, genshin

[shell hazel]

they need to make this system better

[tropic summit]

i dunno i earn so much credits passively already as is anyway

[shell hazel]

let me do some drones or something

[glad meteor]

Sorted by ele

[placid bloom]

I already know I'm not playing Endfield when I see I gotta put 2 guys on my team

[tropic summit]

pve main account

[shell hazel]

if people won't take them I won't do them lol - I think I get enough passive to get what I need anyway now

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Not that good though

[shell hazel]

dw will go full female fan service eventually all gachas do

[tropic summit]

it's simple, you don't run meta, you run waifu

atm arknight doesn't have content you strictly need meta teams for anyway

[placid bloom]

this shit is like when I had to use Bennett in Genshin, it was so ass

[tropic summit]

don't remind me, dark times

[shell hazel]

no husbando in my team

[tropic summit]

simp

[restive heart]

whale account

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[tropic summit]

where's chen

one does not simply bench chen

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-operator-mad-gif-4553098702845494171

[glad meteor]

[restive heart]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/private-foxes-private-foxes-raid

[swift mango]

Doesn't really matter for me on that front but I don't like the character design of those male.

[gaunt pulsar]

your rock printing machine in the basement need to be confiscated sir

[tropic summit]

males in my waifu gacha game

all i need is yuri

[shell hazel]

then welcome to lycoris recoil

[tropic summit]

takina approves

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lycoris-recoil-chisato-takina-hug-spinning-gif-26347730

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

I'd definitely make the same mistake 😄

[tropic summit]

oops

[shell hazel]

it's like a magnet

[restive heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301382235513159772/1465534922029666346/6EAFBB44F72C8F882E551A67D4E95A63.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1037759340607717496/1409248025213407455/axszQ2w-l11bXrT3cSdc-dc.gif

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-is-coming-to-save-you-no-one-will-save-you-warning-threat-advice-gif-12784896

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death

[shell hazel]

if anyone hasn't seen lycoris recoil actually pretty good anime not that long - time to watch it before colab

[restive heart]

https://tenor.com/view/f2pbtw-counter-side-gif-22954857

[tropic summit]

could eat so many more episodes of that solid duo

[restive heart]

anyways time to sleep

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel sakanaaaaaaaaa

[restive heart]

gn chat

[tropic summit]

KING attacks

[placid bloom]

the lore accurate snack to eat while watching LycoReco

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lycoreco-lycoris-recoil-takina-chisato-sakana-gif-27011716

[restive heart]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-yuuka-hayase-yuuka-pajama-gif-6149536134618806522

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

These guys are my one of my earliest 6* in Arknight. While they aren't my waifu or anything I like their design.
Endfield design are boring.

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ i forgot this one existed

[restive heart]

he needs to spend 10k gems first

[shell hazel]

we'll get some cool designs in endfield I think

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

for now I have my freakishly strong yet clumsy last rite

https://tenor.com/view/last-rite-endfield-endfield-sticker-arknights-arknights-sticker-gif-18321520449194825197

[placid bloom]

I don't remember the last time I appreciated male design in any game tbh

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/final-fantasy-x-auron

peak male character design

[shell hazel]

for male designs if I have to run one, I just want a full on like viking unit lol

I saw the 4.0 livestream for HSR earlier and I'm not really sure I'm that interested in it - might be time to pack it in we shall see

[swift mango]

not even male like Son Goku?

[swift mango]

final fantasy?

[tropic summit]

i'm more surprised you sticked around so long

i've long since burned out on that one

[tropic summit]

ye FFX

[glad meteor]

I got gemmed on again

[swift mango]

yeah, I remember controlling that guy.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-game-6

[swift mango]

gem back

[placid bloom]

actually this guy is okay. Not design wise but his face

[tropic summit]

kiryu is beast

[swift mango]

you have very weird taste.

[shell hazel]

was fairly low maintenance

dailies were quick

if it was more time intensive I'd have dipped ages ago

the long term issues with gacha games is the daily grind - if you can get those quick enough the rest is just optional

[placid bloom]

but like design-wise Idk, it's hard

[shell hazel]

I'll probably boot in for 4.0 launch grab my free pulls - check if I'm feeling it or not - if not then I'll dip and save them for later in case they fix it

[placid bloom]

well daily is only an issue if you play too many

[shell hazel]

which I prob do lol

[placid bloom]

I don't pick up new games often

[shell hazel]

endfield may suffer this issue eventually as well

on that one we shall see

[tropic summit]

endfield is ananta/NTE/silver palace waiting room anyway

[shell hazel]

I do want better waifus than endfield currently offers

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

and tbh HSR waifus are kind of mid as well

[glad meteor]

I ady broke for collab

[tropic summit]

don't listen to him, he's the evil

just look at his current gems anyway

[shell hazel]

what gems?

[tropic summit]

the ones he threw at label

[shell hazel]

who?

[swift mango]

it's only minimal 90-100ish pulls.

[shell hazel]

rail has all the gems

the gem king if you will

rail send me gems pls

[glad meteor]

Me first

[swift mango]

this is chen in Endfield?

or other games?

[shell hazel]

that is chen in endfield

I thought you already checked for waifus

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor use your attempts, we brickin' today?

[tropic summit]

it's not the actual chen, but someone else

[shell hazel]

@keen vapor empty your outpost

[tropic summit]

where do i get this birb

[shell hazel]

by playing endfield (unlike blood-kun)

[tropic summit]

silly blood-kun

i already forgot we even got to hug

now lemme hug at will tho

[glad meteor]

[forest zodiac]

will this work? rosanna in t3 makes me scared

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Arknights: Endfield is not a direct sequel to Arknights
https://endfield.gg/arknights-endfield-related-to-arknights/

I guess there is still hope to find cure in the future of the original game,

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Who wants to ping

[swift mango]

<@&1450788368702111765>

[lusty gull]

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[steel urchin]

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

I F*ED UP

but at least it's doable

[glad meteor]

I F*ED

[tropic summit]

if only i didn't skill issue myself

praise be the tempering

[glad meteor]

Sasuga pve malder

[swift mango]

I just tank this hit so the burst timing align for the next poison spray.

[glad meteor]

I lazied it till 541 lol

[tropic summit]

the run all 5 live double spray is gonna be fun

[shell hazel]

pvp malding coming in clutch

[swift mango]

Problem with SW is that she doesn't kill the extra 2 heads easily because no distribute dmg

[fleet flame]

Hi, can you please avoid going off-topic ?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[tropic summit]

yes @swift mango why you go off topic

[placid bloom]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

sasuga @swift mango

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

Pinging mod eventually led to his demise

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

indeed

[shell hazel]

I always ping @modernia instead for that reason

[tropic summit]

not only he was the only one pinging the mod for the spam, he even got the blame

this is how villains are born

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-batman-villain-gif-14723556

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

one minute you're larping as a clown the next you're a villain indeed

[tropic summit]

so close to live this but jesus christ

1 or 2 always keep dying

[shell hazel]

and who is to blame for that?

[placid bloom]

fire vs water boss

[swift mango]

Then you don't have the dmg

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

but the CP

[shell hazel]

the cp looks good enough

become as my pve malder SPA guy

[swift mango]

It's actually fire Boss

[tropic summit]

i'm on HP+, lifesteal and tempering, still getting murderoni

[placid bloom]

oh yeah I forgot water boss is fire ele

[shell hazel]

this guy sneks at 484

just gotta core max SW

[swift mango]

Rapipi is the only viable b1 on the boss unless you have distribution dmg

[placid bloom]

believe in Doro PrivaT

[swift mango]

Need enough hit count to kill the 2 clone heads

[placid bloom]

Doro have dist dmg

only question is if PrivT buff better than MMast

[swift mango]

Ah, I don't have her

I need the union raid reward badly so I could equip level 15 tempering on my whole team

[tropic summit]

MF who did he have to 1 shot this time

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

just kill it

[placid bloom]

what if you use Rouge become Rouge griefer

[glad meteor]

Rail just got rouge this week

[swift mango]

Not enough hit count if he used rouge

[shell hazel]

rouge is a good shout if she has the cp but not if she's weak :9

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

"Character is good if the cp is high enough." I had never though of that

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

I'm glad you had a valuable lesson today 🙂

[tropic summit]

now i got too good with the patterns i ended up killing the clone sneks too fast and he sprayed my butt

[shell hazel]

we need to be careful or blood-kun may send us off-topic again

[swift mango]

Products 23 is good if you 10 times over CP requirements

[swift mango]

Too fast mean bad, not good

[tropic summit]

OK I LIVED

now i don't know what to do

yolo and pray for the best

[swift mango]

Then die the next spray or next next spray

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-alive-gif-11205409

[swift mango]

You beat it?

[versed mesa]

My main rival started actually changing his defense teams for the first time in over a month, despite me not being tryhard anymore and just hitting him whenever I happen to log in. Still beating all 3 teams

[tropic summit]

not enough DPS, 521 it is

[shell hazel]

let him dream

[swift mango]

I was surprised you have the dmg to but it was a lie

[tropic summit]

the spray part and clone part kills a bit of the DPS

[swift mango]

I couldn't kill it even after the 2nd double spray

[tropic summit]

521 will fix that because then you can commit after the first double spray

[swift mango]

I couldn't survive until the third double spray

[tropic summit]

DPS check boss

~~whel check boss ~~

[versed mesa]

I have similar situation with Ziz in Tribe Tower 1240, can finally survive the first aoe, but missing way too much damage to kill in time, not to mention the second aoe close to the end still kills me. I think it does more dmg than the first.

[lunar pawn]

frames

[shell hazel]

just max core SW simples

[tropic summit]

just gonna 521 like a normal pleb

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-mfw-patrick-bateman-willem-dafoe-christian-bale-gif-15222385828987752987

[shell hazel]

it's so simple if you think about it

more cores = more power

[versed mesa]

The math checks out

[shell hazel]

that it does

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel i was looking at retro's clear, it's almost unwatchable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJZugcQlUZc

the amount of pause strat is sickening

[forest zodiac]

I wish pause buffering was removed from the game

[tropic summit]

it essentially feels like cheating

in between greyzone of bug abuse and cheating

[lone sequoia]

naa, it is okay, the only problem was around behemoth solo raid

[swift mango]

1+1 rock today plus 1 left over. Barely enough.

[forest zodiac]

no its not

watch and high cp deficit or any SR vid

[lone sequoia]

there are only 2 bosses affected by the pause (bug), behemoth was 1, the other i think it was the DEF debuff boss

[forest zodiac]

there will be pause buffering

[tropic summit]

watch retro's clear #pvp-arena message

it's sickening

[swift mango]

Pause still stop jumping.

[tropic summit]

rather than playing that way i'll take extra 21 CP jump

[lone sequoia]

that thing is what happen with the 2nd boss

[shell hazel]

check warudos clear

@hollow lagoon and @umbral belfry stole my rocks today (0)

[lone sequoia]

you didn't watch my early clears with alice

[tropic summit]

ye his is clean

but he's ultra cored up, so a different kind of cheating

albeit at least it's normal looking compared

[shell hazel]

retro is basically a human egyptian hacker

[lone sequoia]

not a real problem for the game, the difference between pc and mobile was bigger

do you remember how you used to get extra 25%dmg boost in pc compared to mobile

now is like 8%dmg diff, depending on device

[shell hazel]

speaking of hacking I'm miles ahead of my opponents in the towers now

not far off 200 floors ahead on missilis 😄

[lone sequoia]

my whale is like 100 floors above, i don't mald tower

[shell hazel]

only opens every x days at this time I can usually keep it in blue cp

[lone sequoia]

new chapters next week? i have to clear hard mode boss1 day before the update

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

zant i need some of your cores

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel got 3 rocks went into lib and got nothing

[shell hazel]

you ate my rocks and wasted them 🙁

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/completly-normal-phenomenon-chernobyl

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator2-your-clother-your-boots-gif-27492677

[swift mango]

Day 1 hoarder problem

[lone sequoia]

bad luck aura