pvp-arena

[north brook]

wouldnt be any point to leveling in pvp if they matched u with ppl similar lvl to u

[fair pivot]

We did it chat, I got the #2 whale of the bracket at %25 deficit on attack and defense (for now)

The #1 is 35% deficit, not gonna bother

[tropic summit]

who the f loses with 25% deficit advantage attacking

@shell hazel would you look at the time

[shell hazel]

factory time?

[fair pivot]

Yeah it was weird. But they had mostly pve units and a Scarlet team, probably bruteforcing it

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hp-harry-potter-OmW

[shell hazel]

btw Rail we get a free 6* selector tomorrow

from the standard pool

[tropic summit]

finally i can get last rite

[shell hazel]

so you too can get Last Rite

[tropic summit]

great minds think alike

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/last-rite-last-rite-arknights-endfield-gif-4614804159591639324

[tropic summit]

i'm still not sure if i wanna roll sutr (laeva)

[shell hazel]

only if you got 120 pulls due to how pity works

the 120 pity does not carry over

[tropic summit]

i do but that'd be using all of my stored resources

[shell hazel]

i'll wait I'm happy with last rite as my core dps for now

I just got her to 90 and her weapon was super expensive lmao

[tropic summit]

and i kinda want these 2

one must protecc, the other will protecc me

[tropic summit]

yeah if they're running random auto teams into a nayuta p1 or biscuit locked i can see them losing to 25% deficit advantage

[shell hazel]

kinda want mi fu but I feel she'll be a bruiser and a support is a better initial roll

stunned my noise and noah with rng soda

@dim escarp I reviewed our matches and I think you deserved the win but happy it was only 3-2 loss 🙂

your moran/noah with better dps was clearly stronger than my moran stall with helmT

my cope team 5 had less than no chance

and for 4 I was heading SG's into biscuit locked team so was doomed to fail 😄

[tropic summit]

match breaker was caused by a soda stunning your noise and noah without you actually taunting her?

true CA experience right there

[shell hazel]

no it wasn't I won that one

just funny happenstance

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[shell hazel]

my vesti deleted trina

so no b2

[tropic summit]

5 splashers with 1 being ele weak against trina

trina screaming in pain there

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

full matches if you want to see Rail my top 8 with Jaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_i84yMmdh4

and my final results of experiment number 2 with no scar

SW indom done some solid work lol but it's obv expensive

s.anis with lapT and SW is a strong dps trio behind that noah on t2

[swift mango]

Idk why, I just woke up and it happened.

Not exactly dislocated but my left leg hurt at the joint near the hip/ass when I moved it.

So I just lying in bed waiting for it to heal itself now.

[unique wagon]

No

[shell hazel]

Rail these look like one time quests to me

[dim escarp]

I got hope for once to win, but I might not win for top4 sadly

[vapid lake]

Free 6* selector today after update entire page of QOL fixes nikke devs could never 😱

[shell hazel]

I wanted to vote for you on next but I got tenshi match

tenshi could be your finalist opposition if you beat the giga whale

[dim escarp]

most likely I lose

[shell hazel]

you're defending right? normally I'd put top on right

[dim escarp]

ah yeah

I def

[shell hazel]

1 I guess it may depend on soda stun
2 those SG's could murder moran your only b1 then it snowballs
3 indom vesti vs non-indom vesti 💀
4 I think you can win as SG's chomp centi
5 I dislike your odds due to your SG's getting stuck on label

pray your vesti nukes blanc or forces mis-indom

[dim escarp]

Sadly I started to invest pvm around vesti's release

so she's....

[shell hazel]

sorry wrong on 4 lol

not sg's

[dim escarp]

Let's say she exist

[shell hazel]

slowish cindy vs scar soda

it can win depends how you survive the nuke

I don't love your chances looking at that :9

[dim escarp]

Nayuta can beat the whole team (happened few time)

but dude is whale

[shell hazel]

true, you could yet take match 4

if his scar has 33 ammo or more your siren stuns as well

but most serious pvp players moved away from high ammo scar

[dim escarp]

imo he's not that serious for pvp

[shell hazel]

check his prev match scar ammo count

[dim escarp]

they are big whale

[shell hazel]

that sync though

started after me +160 sync

[dim escarp]

yeah insane lmao

[shell hazel]

bigger 🐳 than zanta

[dim escarp]

started after me too lmfao

anyway they prob never rolled pvp unit I guess

and got carried by core

[shell hazel]

yeah big big spender

funnily enough I think I'd beat them with my team positions on def

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

would be crazy if you killed me then lost to this guy but I would have beaten them 😄

[ancient sun]

Rosa targets Moran instead of Liberalio?

[shell hazel]

you gotta win jaw just full send it

[dim escarp]

rng god exist, I trust

[shell hazel]

high atk moran low atk lib?

[dim escarp]

soda will trust Noah (trust)
my vesti will kill blanc (trust)

[shell hazel]

we believe

[fast nest]

Thankfully R15 blanc.

[gaunt pulsar]

moran b1 attract, so she takes 1 hit to herself

[ancient sun]

Lib is full OL purple maxed dolled and has 30% attack, Moran is only SR5 and has only one gear

[shell hazel]

so it is

[placid bloom]

Moran taunt before Ros burst

their team too slow

[shell hazel]

thought moran was last bullet taunt but guess she does on b1?

[ancient sun]

So taunt rekts Rosa? Good to know

[fast nest]

I think 2, 5 for L.
1 is RNG by soda
3 is RNG by vesti's crit.
4 is RNG because of scar's counter.

[placid bloom]

that is assuming you are faster. There is very few ways to taunt p3-5 Rosa without bursting

if they dumb enough to p2 then you can taunt with charge shot taunter

[shell hazel]

indom vesti with enough ammo and right indom will beat non-indom vesti sadly

[gaunt pulsar]

it's weird type of taunt, it taunts but not over noise/noah basic shots, because she has "attract" and they have actual "taunt", different mechanics in SU glossary probably

[ancient sun]

Noah taunts p1,p2 meanwhile Moran p3,p4,p5?

[fast nest]

for all.

taunt by noah auto is higher layer so that's why p1 p2 to noah.

[gaunt pulsar]

when noah b2 she does the same so everything goes to her

[north brook]

whatever taunted last is considered usually

just depends on frame timing

[forest zodiac]

may I ask for help? my attempt was so bad I'm ashamed to show what I was trying to do, all three lost

[ancient sun]

Oh this happened because Noah didnt taunt before Rosa shoot

So Moran had prior

[north brook]

noah/noise will overwrite morans taunt effect when they shoot again around b2 timing

[ancient sun]

That’s a rare ass interaction

[gaunt pulsar]

if siren is p1/p2 and you b1 before her stun with moran, moran doesn't taunt siren to stun her, siren still stays on noah/noise, so it is kinda with it's own quirks 🤷‍♂️

even though noah no where near to shoot in between moran b1 and siren stun

[north brook]

it depends on cs of the team, if noah/noise are fast enough they hit again before siren stun

[fast nest]

taunt is higher priority over attract.

[gaunt pulsar]

thats what i'm saying

[ancient sun]

So for example if their rosa was in p2 and my moran bursted shortly before their Rosa, Noah would still attract Rosa like with Siren?

[placid bloom]

you double taunt both hit

[gaunt pulsar]

should be, someone might test it

[placid bloom]

[ancient sun]

Is that a thing tho?

[gaunt pulsar]

or it will go to noah moran true

[placid bloom]

yes

that is why Noise Noah can take both Soda stun

[ancient sun]

Hmm I need to test this

[placid bloom]

guaranteed

[fast nest]

yes like soda.

[forest zodiac]

please elp

[fast nest]

if soda p2 and moran p1 noah p2 and moran used b1, then soda will stun moran and noah for 100%.

[ancient sun]

You talk about bunny soda or an ordinary one?

[gaunt pulsar]

basic one

[fast nest]

bunny soda doesnt cast stun btw. original one.

[shell hazel]

team 3 2RL siren stun the noah and nuke with lib or similar

team 1 it's lapT just noah biscuit they'll get stuck on p1

have defender b3 to avoid ros nuke

[ancient sun]

No one ever used her in my bracket

[gaunt pulsar]

good, like rail once said dont use her in your teams if you dont want your bracket to get ruined, because people copy each other

[shell hazel]

for team 1 xmaiden main nuker is good

[gaunt pulsar]

and it's pain if everyone will start

[forest zodiac]

I want 2rl?

[shell hazel]

you want to nuke before noah wakes up yes

it shouldn't be hard to run 2 x 2RL teams on attack now with all the tools we have

[ancient sun]

Let’s go gambling

[ancient sun]

Noted. I will try for CA tho

[gaunt pulsar]

attack good too, just not def, unless people start to use her on their own

[north brook]

soda mainly better if u have cp advantage

since she doesnt buff ur nuke

[ancient sun]

Are there more hidden Nikkes that are like that?

[gaunt pulsar]

some counter ones i guess, like basic ade

[north brook]

it really just soda and nero who had kits that got better in future

[forest zodiac]

no?

[ancient sun]

I saw someone use Nero in my friends’s bracket but I have no idea how she works in PvP

[fast nest]

in CA?

[ancient sun]

Okay I was rereading ada skills for a bit

[forest zodiac]

ah

[ancient sun]

No in SP defence

[forest zodiac]

I'm cp gapped

I'm dead

[north brook]

nero has kindof fallen off again though, vesti, lib, swha all can kill her team and prevent her getting 100 dr

[forest zodiac]

please help, reset in less than 10

[fast nest]

Not bad for ur friend. It is blessed. Ur friend can test his deck.

[shell hazel]

add more cp xmaiden not on max doll etc here

you only need 1,058M

[forest zodiac]

she is on of the higher ones

[terse abyss]

Defense holding

[forest zodiac]

and you said I need defender b3

[shell hazel]

for team 1

not team 3

[forest zodiac]

then I can't get 2rl

[shell hazel]

xmaiden instead of cindy t1

see if you can get to 2RL ish whilst keeping cp OK

[forest zodiac]

okay but cindy int3 slow

[shell hazel]

use higher cp units for t3

[forest zodiac]

2.5rl

[ancient sun]

Interesting

[forest zodiac]

I can't even with cindy

t2 isn't cp gap

[shell hazel]

you have too much cp on t1 and not enough on t3 it should be possible to readjust a bit

vesti also works fine at a small deficit

[forest zodiac]

instead of whom

even with cindy I don't have enough cp

[shell stone]

A bit off topic, but how did you manage to give Nero 100% DR?

[forest zodiac]

and cindy is one of my highest cp units

[shell hazel]

send 3 with vesti instead of sw as main nuker and use SW instead of centi

you got like 3 mins anyway no time to fully adjust

don't waste gems for this

wait no b2 lmao

[gaunt pulsar]

basic ade for stun immune, but it's extreme niche that you might use for attack once
emmaTU and Delta ninja as taunt units for rosanna sacrifice setups
sakura as niche wind counter, same mechanic as label, just reduces dmg severely but on b1 not from the start of battle
i guess those that you've might never heard of some other stun/revive nikkes exist too

[shell hazel]

i'm ill/dead gomen 🙁

sw instead of xmaiden

you could blanc/indom it as well for t3

[north brook]

man kinda annoying, updated my def to no scar and its kinda mid but still holding, except ambitious guy keeps hitting it

had new cook in mind that seemed better but no point swapping if he cant beat current comps

[shell hazel]

wait until you lose yeah

[north brook]

but i need to still monitor it lol

[ancient sun]

No this is very new for me. I only knew about Delta since I used her when I made (people made for me) first teams. But that’s very good to know! Thanx

[shell hazel]

I have like 50 defs I can cook if someone wants to play lol

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-season-1-salesman-recruiter-would-you-like-to-play-a-game-with-me-gif-12930014035273960483

[forest zodiac]

I lost, instructions were confusing

[north brook]

ya think ideally the def is so strong that they hit once, get discouraged and never again

then can sleep

[shell hazel]

you had no time before round end you may as well have used your tries

new day was like 10 mins out

[forest zodiac]

new day juuuuust started

https://iili.io/fDxA6bI.png

[shell hazel]

but you were asking for help super near the reset

[forest zodiac]

I thought 15 minutes would be enough

[shell hazel]

did t1 or t3 win?

at least we have science for that

[forest zodiac]

t1 win t3 wasn't fast enough I guess

[shell hazel]

most people cba to cook anymore I'd not be surprised if no one replies 😄

[north brook]

think mainly we need to see if they give centi burst something defensive of value and/or priv enough damage or gen that she becomes an issue

[shell hazel]

4 rocks today I successfully stole rocks from @hollow lagoon

[forest zodiac]

@shell hazelso what do I do

[shell hazel]

show me what you sent please

[forest zodiac]

mayb scarlet p1 to speed up?

[shell hazel]

who links in that? check who links

also vesti should be main b3 not sw

vesti better on deficit

partially the issue here is we don't kill them so I think noah just b2's and you lose anyway on a deficit

you need to one tap them and nuke noah out of existence which means you need more cp

[forest zodiac]

hold on a bit

I'll try to fix cp

[glad meteor]

[forest zodiac]

I'm inch away from 501

event hard mode opened

[shell hazel]

we're almost the same sync

[glad meteor]

The 500s oldge

[shell hazel]

indeed feels like it

[forest zodiac]

the more I care about nikke the more losing in pvp hurts

also hurts that I'm bad

[glad meteor]

time to wheel so no more cp deficit

[shell hazel]

that was before? deficit hurts, siren hurts a lot on indom as well

[forest zodiac]

yes before

[shell hazel]

team 1 looked fine

if you 501 maybe we can craft a better t3

[hollow lagoon]

Why is everyone so mean to me

[shell hazel]

don't worry I'm sure you'll be stealing them from me tomorrow

[forest zodiac]

@shell hazelsame team on 501

so what should I do

[shell hazel]

only reason to siren stun the noah is to insta-nuke otherwise no point and you should just do normal indom

but note what I said siren is annoying for single indom target

[glad meteor]

This is interesting

[forest zodiac]

hmmm?

[shell hazel]

I fear t3 would be at cp deficit

unlikely to have bsoda built

[forest zodiac]

bsoda unreasonably cp padded

in top row of nikkes

[shell hazel]

s.doro?

[glad meteor]

Soda gonning

[forest zodiac]

sdoro lines are meh, but mlb

[glad meteor]

Plan is to kill noah before she bursts

Good if Drake has ele lines

[shell hazel]

you can try kara teams if you got the cp

[glad meteor]

This was another option for t2,

May need quantum though on vesti

Actually p1 Cindy

[obtuse dagger]

i think better P1 jackal and switch snow white to vesti? since vesti is getting the indom?

[glad meteor]

They give gen

[glad meteor]

Siren stunned sw so vesti got indom and burst in the actual fight

[forest zodiac]

so do I try this one?

[shell hazel]

it was because before it was on deficit

[glad meteor]

It should work

Could try the second pic too I’m thinking

[shell hazel]

I'd trust Kara with my children so no harm in trying it

[forest zodiac]

@glad meteoror 2nd one?

also about t3 cp

[glad meteor]

I’d say try the second one

[glad meteor]

Drake have ele lines?

[shell hazel]

new chapters soon

[forest zodiac]

just atk

[glad meteor]

Well, 3 sg should be more than enough to kill noah

They’re also siren bursting

So dont need to worry about sasuga rapu

lol. Does this mean their t3 is sirenable

[forest zodiac]

what a t2 fight

wow

[glad meteor]

Win?

[covert lintel]

Noah might die if you use miranda+ instead

[forest zodiac]

that was awesome

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

this is why we trust Kara with all the important things

[forest zodiac]

do I dare to ask for one more?

[shell hazel]

Kara Kooks youtube channel idea

[forest zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-meme-yeah-boy-gif-19319988

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[forest zodiac]

I'll put these here, I hope it is okay

I kinda know what to do with t2 (just a tad slower indom?)
but t1 seems very bad?

whats is this super duper defending team

t3 bay scares me a bit, and helm bursting I don't know what counters that either

[glad meteor]

Put ada on vigor cube. Make sure snow and drake are linked

[forest zodiac]

victory, thank you so much

saved my sanity

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit I dont remember what we used on round 2 before, I think you suggested a drake and vesti comp to kill noah quick? I dont remember if it worked or no, couldn't find it

Nvm

[wild drum]

Hey

I dont know who i should upgrade for pvp or if theres someone i can replace and if these r the best teams i can have

[oak hatch]

Noise rumani Noah can be used in many teams

[wild drum]

Ok so who do i upgrade

[oak hatch]

Wdym from your picture?

[wild drum]

@tropic summit halp

No from my words

Rail where r u

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-run-gif-24042545

[shell stone]

What's this website called?

[fast nest]

nikke deck

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/0jR2R7DypSo?si=Xkw_Oc39Gsx7lhu8

[lunar pawn]

can a 17% noah taunt SG before their 2nd shot?

[fallow bramble]

Can anyone form a sp arena attack and defense team for me? I have label

[wild hemlock]

@valid inlet I only skimmed the other teams but I feel like you have a free CA win here. Feel like you have the most meta setup with invest and everyone else has random stuff

[past fog]

What do the %s represent this looks cool

[valid inlet]

I feel I may lose tomorrow tho

[covert lintel]

Rosanna it

You can go for all sg+rosanna too against unprotected blanc

[fickle furnace]

thanks, this worked with swha instead of drake

[chrome basin]

i am scare, my opponent havent counter in the last 23 hr. what is he plotting

[real abyss]

centi and moran fav items already

[raven plover]

looking forward for 20 seconds privaty stun

[upbeat dock]

sometimes you break them and they quit.. happened to two of my pvp rivals already, its actually a little sad

sometimes i tap on their profile to look at their last login date

https://tenor.com/view/pxin-gxng-zxdiac-lunar-divine-gif-22544952

[green dawn]

Can someone help me counter his teams? I was thinking of blanc team1 and noah team2 but I'm having trouble with cp diff

https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTQ0Mjc2NjE5NDIxODAzODk3MzA=

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

run these, CP should be matching, you can see below requirement

T1 needs 838k
T2 needs 850k
T3 needs 717k

[gritty ridge]

Rail is that a misindom i see in t3

[tropic summit]

there's no such thing as "attack teams", because you'll be building those depending on the opponent
if you don't know what you're doing, use the same teams

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh drakeT
• jackal swha blanc biscuit rrh
• noise siren lib sbs noah

Notes

• build up emilia
• get lappy treasured on the medium term
• build up vestiTU to replace SBS in T3 once she doesn't tank CP
• build up utilities (rumani, centi, blanc, jackal, noah, biscuit, trina)

[tropic summit]

that noah isn't gonna live against early aggresion teams ye

scarlet vestiTU drakeT trina jackal
or overcommit with
nayuta vestiTU/scarlet drakeT SWHA jackal

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 look good
T2 seems to be a somewat padded team, you can speed it up and add anti nuke if you've noise/moran/noah/bayT

[tropic summit]

that team has 2 approaches in same place

1. kill p1 and p2
2. indom self anyway and slower than the enemy will, even if lib is to stay alive

[gritty ridge]

Its funny seeing anis on indom teams

[tropic summit]

that team is trying to lay a trap

anis is meant to die and get you to whiff, but it kinda goes in constrast to get self to indom slower

kinda meme team

[gritty ridge]

Kill anis, use rosa, profit

[tropic summit]

ye that's also very rosa punishable

[green dawn]

Thanks for the help, the teams worked perfectly, (t2 was 800k and everything lived with a scrap of life )
I've been running the teams in my screenshot as my defense, still looking to build up soda over redhood, do you think that's fine for now? I don't really expect to defend with the CP diffs but any advice is appreciated

[nimble knot]

I'm curious is Ein usable in PvP at all or would I just be gimping myself to use her?

[tropic summit]

she's usable but there are far better choices

[wild drum]

you know when i asked you to make me a team i had all of those except noah and bayT

[tropic summit]

scarlet is a poor choice on def due to how common she was and how many tools now are available to deny her
laplace as main B3 is also a poor choice due to being a rather mild B3 and that can get p1 locked
T3 is ok, decent team

consider reworking t1 and t2, add vestiTU as main B3 if she's available

[wild drum]

😭

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sakuta-azusagawa-mai-sakurajima-6

[crystal flicker]

G'day pvp peeps

[wild drum]

ok anyone else i can replace to improve t eam

[tropic summit]

shooting range peeps*

[wild drum]

or am i good to start CP padding

[nimble knot]

That's fair, she's my wife and that's the only reason I wanna use her thanks though

[tropic summit]

as i said only that team with crown could use help, until then you're fine as is

[green dawn]

I used her for quite a while since she was my favourite nikke and at the time one of my most invested. If you want to use her I found she mandates a buff nikke (I used jackal/blanc) since her multiplier is lower than other b3s but is quite consistent since she does true damage. Her drones can be taunted which is annoying so watch out for super tank taunts if you expect the drone chip damage to help finish off units

[nimble knot]

I feel like my friend helped me draft some solid teams but I just keep getting knocked out of 4th and it's really annoying cause I had an 'auto' whale hogging it for half a year and when I finally start qualifying I now have to compete

[nimble knot]

The three teams I'm running, any advice is welcome

[long chasm]

Need counter

[tropic summit]

T2 change it altogether, scarlet is no longer effective on def
T3 too slow, fast cindy suffers from the same

[tiny scroll]

So many people in my bracket still running scarlet teams. i'll take the free win 😄

[crystal flicker]

Are you getting trimmed medal in endfield yet?

[uncut umbra]

Could someone advise some pvp teams? So far it's just my campaign team and some throwaways hahaha

I don't have scarlet or Rapunzel or biscuit unfortunately

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left, T2 is throaway

CP requirement

T1 1888k
T3 1912k

[nimble knot]

Could you possibly help me draft a new T2? And is 2.5rl really too slow for Cindy?

[tropic summit]

i dunno i never actually looked at the medals so far

[tropic summit]

post your box in this format:

#pvp-arena message

or provide me with your blablalink

[nimble knot]

Ah lemme find that two secs

[thin abyss]

Maybe
-Rumani, Nayuta, Biscuit, Mihara and Cinderella
-Scarlet-Blanc-jackal
-the same Moran team from your opponent

[nimble knot]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTQ0MzE4OTA5MTI4MjA4NjU5NjE%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTQ0MzE4OTA5MTI4MjA4NjU5NjE%3D

I may be too dumb to find the blabla

[crystal flicker]

It's like peak AK content

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• naga liter rrh anis SWHA
• jackal lib blanc centi alice
• noah crown diesel WS solineFT noir

Rookie

• rrh swha jackal noah naga

Notes

• get helm treasured

finish PvE campaign team, afterward you can start building core pvp units:

• noah, biscuit, jackal, noise, vestiTU, SWHA, nayuta, blanc, RH, lib, cindy

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[hollow nebula]

someone with slightly higher cp is running a carbon copy of my teams on def.

i am using 2.5RL indom vesti team to counter my cindy team but for some reasons vesti is not getting indom.

the vesti team usually has no problems killing other 2RL cindy teams, can someone please explain to me what might be happening here?

[uncut umbra]

Thank you very much!

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt ros drakeT
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi lib
• noise siren swha bsoda anchorIM

Notes:

for T2, run it in shooting range, enter battle then pause, click on vestiTU and lib, confirm lib has more HP
if she doesn't, exit battle, give her vigor, re-enter and check again, if she does that team is on vestiTU indom priority

[tropic summit]

to get indom working properly you're best using jackal links, that's a lot of copium to hit the right indom

[nimble knot]

Thank you mate, I'll have to do that when I get on my pc

[long chasm]

Why there 2 biscuit hahah

[tropic summit]

forgot to edit,

that's T3

[long chasm]

It all win lol, thank rail 🥰

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1

[glad meteor]

How much of the burst gen meter is filled

[hollow nebula]

Thanks for the quick reply, my vesti has the lowest base hp on the team so it always worked for me until now. do you think moran’s hp got too low and indom went to her instead?

their carbon copy vesti team was able to hit indom on my team, just trying to understand what might be happening here

[tropic summit]

p3 is only exposed to emilia and vestiTU pre burst, getting your p3 to indom means moran needs to have low enough HP for vestiTU to be your lowest HP when blanc casts B2

realistically speaking, you don't run those kind of teams with blanc, you'd rather run jackal linked indom archetype

change strategy altogether and approach it differently

[hollow nebula]

Thanks, that makes sense! jakal is currently on my og scarlet team so I will need to come up with another team

Do you have any suggestions for some new teams? i have almost all pvp nikkes minus emilia. these are the 3 teams i run right now

[tropic summit]

these are for defense? attack is based on what you facing, so it's situational

[hollow nebula]

yes this is for defense but i usually use the same teams for attack as they have worked well until the higher cp copied my teams haha

[tropic summit]

for defense teams, they're sort of OK, although fast scarlet and fast cindy have both became quite abusable

i'd suggest you bench both of those and rework them with main B3 being vestiTU and SWHA for starters

3rd team you can get creative with stalls/stuns/sustain

[restive heart]

[hollow nebula]

Thank you a bunch, i will go work on some ideas

[stuck hearth]

fighting this Lil sht for a week just to take down a day 1 wall.

[slim hedge]

I was like wait a second those names look familiar, looks like we're on the same server cluster

[wild drum]

so how to replace

[restive heart]

OH WOW LOL

this u @slim hedge ?

[slim hedge]

Though I think you might be a little more recent to this cluster because I don't remember seeing your name much or maybe I just didn't check the first place often

But I'm familiar with King and Lucis for a long time now

[slim hedge]

Yeah

[restive heart]

i think king spends 10k gems this season alone now

[slim hedge]

King is the main reason why a long time ago I just stopped caring about trying to rank higher in arena and just happily stayed at 6. Because for a long time I had a huge back and forth thing with King that just grew tiring for me

[restive heart]

check this @slim hedge

[slim hedge]

Since as you said yeah he just keeps buying a lot of refreshes all the time

Yep as I said I'm very familar with him from back when I was actively trying to stay in the higher ranks lol

[restive heart]

first time meeting him he did 20k gems plus

this is the second meet up with king

[fickle furnace]

lmfao

usually spenders are better at breaking defenses

like they'll go ask their discord union buttbuddies for a team after failing 5-6 times

you cooking some blackmagic defense or does he suck?

[restive heart]

some blackmagic and he does suck

[slim hedge]

Probably both yeah

[restive heart]

i did put a worst def team. and still cant break it

wait wrong ss

heres the worst team i did

[fickle furnace]

lol

if he couldnt break this then he really sucks

[restive heart]

this is my "blackmagic" team

[fickle furnace]

damn 25% emilia lol

[tropic summit]

1. don't get informed
2. throw things until something works
3. endless money
4. refuse to learn

= KING

[restive heart]

im now trying this new def team.

a worst team too but lets see

[wild drum]

but how idk what to do

[tropic summit]

you don't need to do anything until you unlock those units

[wild drum]

i have noise and moran

do u need any other units (no noah ig)

[restive heart]

https://tenor.com/view/king-king-baldwin-king-baldwin-4-rikoamv-riko-amv-gif-8479237540916603760

[wild drum]

i said it here too

sorry i'm not trying to be rude railtracer im just like i jus need a team rn for dailies

[slim hedge]

I can confirm that KING guy is awful because my PvP knowledge is terrible and back when I bothered to fight him he needed multiple daily attempts just to clear my awful teams too

[tropic summit]

post your box or blablalink

[restive heart]

i think i did a pve teams as my def team and he still lost KEKW

hmm should i put rosie on p5

like this?

or

this

[tropic summit]

assuming he knows SWHA pops rosa cloak you'd need to- oh nvm he doesn't

[restive heart]

[restive heart]

he gonna use biscuit + p5 defender... or does he

[wild drum]

uh leme show u

[slim hedge]

I don't even know why he bothers trying to fight for the top ranks. First time I try attacking him in probably over half a year, didn't even have any strategy when attacking him because I have no clue what I'm doing and he fell from first attempt

[restive heart]

@slim hedge can you try this team if this still work on king

[slim hedge]

You mean on defense?

[restive heart]

yes

[slim hedge]

Can I replace Ada with someone else because she's the only from the list that I don't have built

[tropic summit]

poor guy gets no chill @restive heart

[restive heart]

laplace or emilia, which has higher cp

[restive heart]

man im stalking everywhere finding this guy

even on blabla and other nikke servers

icant find him LOL

[slim hedge]

Okay I'll put up those teams and give you an update, I'm sure he will attack whenever he sees me

[tropic summit]

he's probably the average gacha gamer with a lot of money who doesn't hang around social media and/or reads guides, doubt you'll find him

[restive heart]

he is now at 7th place LOL

bet he will attack issac and then get you LOL

[slim hedge]

lol I'm surprised he got attacked again right after me

[restive heart]

kinda weird he has "Youtube" as his description LOL

[tropic summit]

maybe he streams a channel where he showcases how often he gets beaten in his bracket

[slim hedge]

That Issac guy is also a funny one, he attacked me like 15 times earlier this week

[tropic summit]

holy f you guys brackets are filled of these

[restive heart]

rich filthy guys who has nothing to do with money

wish they give the money to me so that i can upgrade my scooter

[restive heart]

he attacked me too but he only do his daily use i think.

anyways im guranteed rank 1-3 rewards

altho i did use -100 gems so i only get 2.9k totals

anyways kamui passed me on pilgrim manu rankings.

theres nothing we can do. im super unlucky in pilgrims

[slim hedge]

I don't even try competing with him on the character upgrade rankings lol, but I'm first in the rest

[green dawn]

Hi @tropic summit is there a standard 3 team defense for SP arena that I should be working towards? I was thinking of doing 3 2rl teams with blanc jackal, moran noah trina, noise bay rumani and sort of mix and match units to make it work

[restive heart]

dayum. thats rough... i really hate that guy but also i love teasing him in pvp LOL

[rustic sandal]

[restive heart]

[slim hedge]

Yeah since he's on the same server as me I've been dealing with him both in PvP and other rankings ever since I started playing lol. For you I assume he's a more recent experience

@restive heart He's not going to have a good time whenever he logs on, down to 9 now and I took 3rd place from him just 15 minutes ago

[restive heart]

his all time lowest. at rank 17

this was like 2 days ago

[slim hedge]

If he can drop that low that fast just imagine that he's buying all these refreshes for most people he has to go climb through

[tropic summit]

yeah i don't see anything that can upgrade your current 3 teams

for starters, raise CP on noise, trina, swha, biscuit, jackal, centi, blanc (priority on SWHA, blanc and jackal)
get lappy treasured to improve T1 and subbing SG feed

[green dawn]

I tried to cook something up, any advice is much appreciated

[tropic summit]

T1 lib is a poor choice on defense reconsider
T2 decent team
T3 single B1 in p1 is very abusable, the idea is good but rethink by adding multiple B1s

[tropic summit]

you can grab ideas from here
#pvp-arena message

aim for 2.5RL or 2RL teams, don't bother with 3RL

[green dawn]

I tried reshuffling a little with those ideas in mind, would these teams be better?
May I ask why lib is poor on defense? sadly I think I'll probably have to run her anyway since she's the only one who can meet the burst gen requirement for 2rl
https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTQ0Mjc2NjE5NDIxODAzODk3MzA=

[tropic summit]

indom teams don't need to be natural 2RL

aim for a team that is 91% to 2RL (or higher)

[tropic summit]

T2 and T3 both look ok, but sub anis for centi or trina, after you've fixed T1

[north brook]

indom being 2.3ish is all thats necessary, u want the indom to last as long as possible

but still not have it die before then

[green dawn]

I think this roughly fits the bill

[tropic summit]

bad B3 choice in T1, T2 is ok, T3 is ok, rethink T1

[green dawn]

Feels like liberaio is the only half decent choice out of my b3s then, I feel like everyone I used to use has been invalidated by label

[tropic summit]

indom s.anis and ein offer way more threat than indom sbs and liberalio

[tropic summit]

this is looking way better

[green dawn]

Thank you so much for walking through and helping me learn about what to use Railtracer, I really appreciate the help and explanations

[tropic summit]

can further min/max on positioning

T1 blanc in p3 assumes you've built her enough to survive vestiTU pre 2RL B2, else move linked unit in p3 and blanc in p4
T2 moran bay trina vestiTU helmT offers vestiTU p4 over p3, p3 can be punished by vestiTU and emilia
T3 noise noah centi swha rapunzel, same logic here, p4 is the safest spot, in fact you might be able to also survive enemy rosanna by having SWHA full HP in p4 with a noise B1 on 2RL

[tidal lichen]

[slender radish]

Can i get some feedback on these defense teams? I'm debating slotting in a Cinderella team instead. My def teams haven't been saving me much and i rely on just logging in frequently and being offensive for my position. I have all PVP-relevant nikkes with most of them invested with at least full OL gear

[tropic summit]

slow cindy at synchro 622 is meaningless, opponents should be well aware of how to deal with it

in fact at that synchro most defenses, unless you're gapping the opponents, are probably meaningless

[tropic summit]

either way

• B3 and B2 in p1 are siren weak, unless you've 11CS% team wide (this affects 2 of your teams)
• your lib team is running no nuke resistance or immunity, on a delayed nuker (liberalio), that's a deathwish against any 2RL nuker

[slender radish]

Good point about the nuke resistance. Since Noah and Blanc are being used up on the other teams, i haven't figured out a viable way to protect her

[tropic summit]

don't run lib on defense, it's actively helping the enemy

rather go for an early aggresion team or more stall/sustain

offburst if you've no other options is fine as a flex burst gen battery with mild DPS, but as main B3 just don't

[slender radish]

I used to run Scarlet but Label pretty much nullifies her on defense

[restive heart]

@slim hedge can you check if KING is attacking you

he at top 6 right now

[tropic summit]

ye a good decision to bench her on def

too easy to deal with

[nimble knot]

This isn't a PvP question but i'm curious
Am i considered a whale because I buy almost every skin?
(but that's all i buy)

[tropic summit]

that's just a spender, whales are actively using their money to earn advantage in terms of synchro and investiment (and cores)

[slim hedge]

lol didn't take long for him to get back at it. Will log in to see in a few minutes

[restive heart]

haha thanks!

[north brook]

whale would be generally over 5k~10k per year range spent at least

buying every pass etc would be a dolphin, something like 500~2k per year

[slim hedge]

Nope, no attack from him yet

[restive heart]

ohh lol

[slim hedge]

He just moved to 4th place though, weird that he went for 4th place without even trying to attack me first

[restive heart]

he went to attack me i see

idk imma check

time to find nemo union

and find the araeru guy

[slim hedge]

What for

[restive heart]

just a truce

[slim hedge]

lol, I'm still kind of surprised that I randomly saw someone from my special arena pool while just browsing this chat to try and learn more about PvP

Reminds me of another interaction I had in the first months of the game when again in special arena me and this other player were going back and forth daily for the top spots and at one point we were exchanging small words with each other using the in game status message

Eventually we exchanged discord names that way so we can talk more freely, fun times. He quit some months after that unfortunately

[restive heart]

[restive heart]

man kinda sad

rip

[slim hedge]

Just how it is, not many people stick to 1 game for more than 1 year, let alone several years

[restive heart]

true

rn this is the only game i have spent more than a year

[north brook]

Wow he didnt attack 30m before reset for once

[restive heart]

i did quit like a month but came back. so hard to quit man. cant leave this game

[north brook]

idk how lib is holding like this

[slim hedge]

I started playing Nikke during the Chainsaw colab and haven't stopped since, would have probably started earlier but I think there was no PC client until then

[restive heart]

just a sad reality

[restive heart]

i used to remember playing it on my samsung note 8. also got baited by csm collab LOL

[swift mango]

I'm still copium for a rerun which happens in Nikke 3

[nimble knot]

I wish i started this game earlier ngl It's the longest i've ever stuck to a gacha and every time i manage to qualify for CA I mald over the fact I don't have Emilia ;-;

[restive heart]

in before i regret not having cuz of her usage in pvp before

now i still regret it cuz it ruins my collection....

[slim hedge]

Main reason why I always pull on colab characters even though I didn't personally like most of them so far, gotta catch em all

[nimble root]

I've only been playing since April 2024 but there are games like SFD and Dokkan that I've been playing for over 3 years

I managed to get 3* Emilia, she's been a tremendous help in SP Arena at least

[primal charm]

there are nothing more tragic than a account dont have emilia in a having-emilia bracket

[nimble root]

wasted money on her maid outfit too

I hope neither of these new collabs are pvp meta, I don't even know or care about LR or whatever that show is

[upbeat dock]

Does Ada need CS lines for OL gear? Or just usual atk/ele

Or Ammo lines

[unique wagon]

Ah the homie

[severe dawn]

What team do you use her 🤗?

[nimble root]

I use a great team Railtracer made for me; Nayuta Centi Helm Emilia RH

I'm pretty awful at pvp tbh I hardly know anything about percentages or 2RL 3RL or linking or anything like that, I just do what he tells me to and it works amazingly

I wish there was a super in depth guide made for absolute beginners to learn those things but I can't find any info anywhere else but this chat specifically

[nimble knot]

I know very little myself, my IRL friend who got me into this game (When Rumani's Banner was up) helped me draft teams for the longest time but when it comes to RL It isn't that hard to understand especially with the online tools that are available, the main one I've used when attempting to build my own teams is Nikke Deck and that shows you the RL as you put the units in including, and if you have enough charge speed on the unit etc just mess around with it for a while even if you aren't 100% sure as it can help with knowing that they do
i know you didn't ask but yuh 👍

the percentage stuff i'm very much in the dark as well

[nimble root]

I do appreciate it though thanks, i'll have to check that out

[nimble root]

Yeah every time I come in here it's like watching wizards talk in heiroglyphics

[nimble knot]

I don't think anyone in my bracket has her, however I see how much heavy lifting she can do in PvP and it makes me mald

[nimble knot]

I'm slowly learning but when it comes to drafting good defence teams I can't do it

The team that Railtracer built for me earlier already got defeated by Frank, damn you Frank

[nimble root]

Yeah same I couldn't build teams to save my life, thankfully Railtracer carries me like a baby

[restive heart]

@tropic summit when MA PVP role?

[swift mango]

What game?

[swift mango]

Well, if you grind hard with the extra core dust from those skin pack. You could get an extra 20 level advantage over other F2P. Plus if you buy pulls as well for pulling dupes. You would be qualified to be a dolphin in this game I guess. Some level bricked would even call you whale.

[nimble knot]

the guys fighting me have 20+ levels on me, i'm lowest power in top 10 xD

[swift mango]

Yeah, keeping up with synch without paying for core dust required more effort. So you could be bricked a bit even with the extra resource from buying skin.

[nimble knot]

after months of smashing my head against a wall (known to me as LEE) a whale who's PvP teams are "Auto" I finally beat him and got into CA (knocked at 32) SP got reshuffled and now i'm fighting for my life to stay top 4

[slim hedge]

Arknights Endfield probably

[swift mango]

They also play star rail

[slim hedge]

Yes but max rarity in Star Rail is 5 star and Endfield did give a free 6 star selector a few hours ago

[swift mango]

I see

[shell hazel]

yeah it's endfield

[primal charm]

what are you doing here in no-emilia bracket

this is bully

[swift mango]

Losing with my shit teams.

[nimble root]

The sp arena shuffle killed me too

[swift mango]

It's bully when I actually bring a meta line up.

Next champ is reshuffle anyway. I would probably begone.

Chris and Aha accounts are older than me.

@median flare wassup? You probably would go with me as well.

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit My rival actually lost against my rookie team 4 times, he won once but lost the next attack so what ever he beat it with is inconsistent. I have not won a defense against him in like a year

[median flare]

do i have any choices

[swift mango]

Restart and new account

[median flare]

[swift mango]

Oh wait, which one is you in this pic?

[primal charm]

none i got top 64 lmao

[primal charm]

what is meta now can you pls explain to me

the last time i play is when slow cindy mihara but now seem like that comp is off

[swift mango]

Hard to say but common team would be 3 teams 2rl, 1 slow Cindy and 1 Rosa SG

Noise linked Bay

Moran Noah

Scarlet

Are most common but you could tweaking it

There are also

Rosa Scarlet.
Nayuta+RH 2rl
Absolute Vesti

Options to consider. So long as you built it right and not like me with 2 team that's not actually 2rl.

And a Label team that label doesn't even burst.

[primal charm]

sound wild isn it

[swift mango]

Moran Bay
Noise Noah
are also options

[primal charm]

thanks for explain now im back to grindin

[tropic summit]

you first, i like my freedom

[tropic summit]

the irony... he's struggling against a team he ran himself, the triple threat indom

either he's testing out slower indoms to try and run that against you in SP arena or really laughtable

[swift mango]

idk, just do your usual activity is more than enough to fulfill MA duty

[tropic summit]

don't think so, they'd need to write guides and partecipate in meeting and actual be present over the day

without being MA, you can just dissapear and noone gives a f*k, i prefer that

@leaden canyon or maybe he's actually testing CP padded teams that can survive against single buff vestiTU

the team he won with against that it's probably nero moran anyway

[swift mango]

@umbral crown what did you do?

[tropic summit]

he does his best

[swift mango]

I don't think you need to write guide at all.

Sugar treasure when?

[tropic summit]

but then what does an MA do

[tropic summit]

when you find rapunzel (||never||)

[swift mango]

just be helpful enough

and submit your application

and not do trolling chat I guess

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Trust the process

[hollow lagoon]

I could use more

[swift mango]

less is more, more dupe rapu and her stun chance lowered

[tropic summit]

oh then i'd fail

[tropic summit]

i've been taking @swift mango 's rapunzels all this time

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-gif-5383253755470222749

[tropic summit]

he heard she doesn't come to people who like Crow

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nikke-doro

[umbral crown]

[hollow lagoon]

Core 1

[tropic summit]

yeah i know you're not used in seeing anything below C4

[hollow lagoon]

Collab girls kinda meh looking

[hollow lagoon]

My own is only c3

And then collabs I typically only pull to mlb/c1

[tropic summit]

you mean their kit?

easy skip then

[hollow lagoon]

No I mean their look

Kits ain’t out

[summer copper]

they look fine, normal

[hollow lagoon]

Your are also fine, normal

[summer copper]

thank you

[hollow lagoon]

But the collab are def not normal

[swift mango]

@unique wagon here, also blocked by biscuit.

[hollow lagoon]

Ada indom

[swift mango]

Would need 4 AtK line instead of 1

@unique wagon it would go like this if you had enough dmg.

And not stuck

So be sure you got 50% ATK on her if you don't want to use RH

[obtuse dagger]

snow white off burst is actually insane no?

[tropic summit]

ah yes, ada with 50%atk OLs, very common

[tropic summit]

pretty bad matchup for vestiTU there though, hitting ele weakness gives SWHA even more lifesteal than she would in general

moran also mitigates a lot of damage combined with noah

essentially, SWHA has damage reduction and lifesteal on ele weakness, lots of sustain that way

[swift mango]

At least get 40%

Or she needs to be buffed

[swift mango]

You could fight against opponent with lower investment though. In that case 10% like mine maybe enough

[tropic summit]

cuz you a 🐳

[swift mango]

My video has Rh buff there

[frank ingot]

the attacker stole my spot and I tried the team you recommend, I lost

[tropic summit]

yeah rosanna doesn't help here

RH wasn't available?

[frank ingot]

there were 2 RH in your recommendation, then you said prefer rosa over RH to kill water code. I put RH on 1st team, and rosa against the helmt and swha

[tropic summit]

ok gonna need to correct the teams then

[tropic summit]

show CP with this

[tropic summit]

ok CP looks good, let's fix positioning a bit for T2 to survive heavy splash

jackal quantum
scarlet tempering
blanc tempering
centi quantum
lappy quantum

[covert lintel]

Why rosanna noah

[tropic summit]

and scarlet didn't live, gonna need to stick a biscuit in there

[tropic summit]

you can beat em with this next

[covert lintel]

Wouldn't the ez way for team 1 is 2rl 2buff scar?

[tropic summit]

he did already, but he lost to T3

only need to fix scarlet HP in current T2 and he's done

[frank ingot]

should I just put vigor cube for both biscuit and swha?

[tropic summit]

with biscuit he'll fix that team HP issue

[tropic summit]

jackal quantum
blanc vigor
scarlet tempering
biscuit vigor
swha quantum

you're now protected with biscuit on p1 and p2, you only take dmg on p3 via enemy vestiTU after HP threshold is hit on blanc and jackal

they can no longer lethal you pre 2RL B2

[frank ingot]

thank you for the help, this works

[tropic summit]

yeah i didn't expect they had that much dmg with tempering in the equation, opponent has good invest

[covert lintel]

T3 you can do it like this too

[tropic summit]

cocoa sacc strats

[swift orbit]

Good morning, can you help me put together counterattack teams? Only Scarlett's team wins, and Snow White's team dies very quickly.

[tropic summit]

damn 3RL SBS indom with blanc p1... this screams of 2025

do you've quantum lvl 7?

oh won't need it, you can run these

[tropic summit]

you're on the left, teams are assumed not in deficit

[swift mango]

Scarlet burst 3
Laplace burst 3.

[leaden canyon]

Doubt it, he has been only attacking me in rookie and waiting for me to put in my attacks

[swift mango]

I was right lol...

[tropic summit]

4D chess life

[tropic summit]

had to put a biscuit then it solved it

[leaden canyon]

Trying to also bully me in rookie

now I bully him

[tropic summit]

i dunno there's noway he should lose to that with his CP padding sh*t

[leaden canyon]

I'm not in deficit with that team

[tropic summit]

pretty sure he's testing how far he needs to pad and/or DR against your vestItu

[leaden canyon]

even his 280 pad team is not deficit for me

[tropic summit]

doesn't he go up to like 2.9kk?

[covert lintel]

I got bullied in rookie too

[leaden canyon]

2.9 might be deficit but thats with certain units that clearly are not working out for him

[covert lintel]

And with gems

[tropic summit]

hmm i wonder

he can't be that stupid

[leaden canyon]

he has not really actually been playing pvp mind you

He just pads

[tropic summit]

when he builds proper teams, those team look like someone who knows what he doing though

[leaden canyon]

I used to win defense against him with tripple sg when the deficit wasn't as bad

[tropic summit]

[covert lintel]

stupid at games but genius at gathering money

[tropic summit]

alternatively the friend who cooks his teams stopped helping him perhaps @leaden canyon

and now he's self cookin'

[leaden canyon]

its weird because I think he does spend money but doesn't buy skins or core dust

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-9

[leaden canyon]

I think he just buys rocks

and pulls

[tropic summit]

wowie

[leaden canyon]

he core 7 lib

[tropic summit]

imagine sucking at spending money

[leaden canyon]

he doesn't even have mlb SWHA though

he blew his load on lib

[tropic summit]

lib enjoyer

@leaden canyon what did you do to cause this bully war btw? when and how did it even start

[leaden canyon]

to start it? idk, maybe I gemed him a few times in the beggining just to learn how to break something? but then when I was fighting the other guy, the other guy would attack him to get back into top 3 and then my rival would attack me instead of him

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

I'm also only a little lower in CP on the other guy

[covert lintel]

FFA wars

[leaden canyon]

and he was fighting the whale before

[tropic summit]

so maybe he just took it personal when you gemmed at first

perhaps he felt like you backstabbed when you attacked him while he was busy dueling the whel

[leaden canyon]

no I left him alone when he was fighting the whale actually

[tropic summit]

oh? then i guess he missed the message

[leaden canyon]

I litterally cant challenge that because I cant fight back for the whale spot

hes in 4th and knocks the whale to 4th, if I take first place the whale will just knock me to 4th

I think the rookie stuff though is showing him he should maybe go after the other guy because I'm building my shit

I also only gem him now because he doesn't bother attacking anybody but me even when I decide to fight somebody else

but now I think I know every defense he can do

[tropic summit]

maybe peace is no longer an option

[leaden canyon]

I mean the whale only logs in once a day a few hours before reset

He was doing fine against him for a season

and then just started going after me

[tropic summit]

weirdo

well at least you getting some wild matches out of it

turned your box into a living nightmare for himself

[leaden canyon]

yeah I know how to deal with so much shit now lol

[tropic summit]

[leaden canyon]

also limit testing was funny af

Anchor insane

Shes only SR 5 too

[covert lintel]

Let's try the cp padded team that whale love so much

[leaden canyon]

Man the new wuwa character flight mode is OP for exploring

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/only-war-reason-gaming-warhammer-gif-17304554

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/warhammer-40k-ultramarine

[swift orbit]

Thank you very much for your help.

[swift mango]

But u are the whale

[ivory ore]

If I have literally every character where can I find some of the best teams to form?
Having some trouble.

[tropic summit]

refer to these
#pvp-arena message

prefer 2RL teams that involve SWHA/vestiTU and moran/noah

[short plaza]

it's obvious scarlet and lib on defense is just asking to be countered so I wanna change up my defensive teams @tropic summit

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTQ5NDIzMjYyNzQwOTAyMDQ4OTY%3D

[paper void]

help, arena team pls 🙏🙏🙏

[lone sequoia]

are we ready for eva part 3?

[tropic summit]

re:zero part 2

[tropic summit]

you're set to private good sir

[short plaza]

seriously? I didn't know that I'll fix it real quick

should be fixed now

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• moran siren swha maiden bay
• liter rrh drake miranda noah
• crown alice label tia anis

Rookie

• moran siren rrh swha noah

[supple plover]

Any ideas for defense?

[tropic summit]

SR15 rosanna, SR15 noah, SR15 noise, SR15 blanc, SR15 nero moran... you're screwed

[supple plover]

Current set-up

[tropic summit]

dude isn't casual he knows what he's doing

[glad meteor]

rosy alt

[tropic summit]

since you're on similar CP, you can't gap either

fight someone else and try ignore each others is going to be your best defense

[supple plover]

Only bottleneck

[tropic summit]

how do ppl even keep up with alts, aint nobody got time for that

[glad meteor]

I’m yet to find out. I had to quit mine

But also, that account was in whale territory

Imagine being whooped by hime in CA

[swift mango]

I used to play games with up to 10 alt

it's the same as you playing 10 games one account each

[supple plover]

How did you have energy to play on 10 alts...

[short plaza]

@tropic summit is my bla still private? I can send another link if so

[leaden canyon]

But I'm not

[swift mango]

ofc only focus on 2-4 account best, among them. After early game, daily are easy to finish fast

[formal quiver]

@valid inlet glgl

1. Rosa needs to be crit my scar sucks
2. probably l but maybe brid lives? 👀
3. Moran needs to be biscuited by counters (soda can stop a few attacks) and mihara don't miss lap
4. l
5. idk if I have enough to kill Noah lib vesti gets helmed I don't even know if I have the damage to kill moran xd. it's double buff emi burst?

[dim escarp]

@shell hazel

[shell hazel]

nice work! finalist let's go

also my tenshi bet won

[umbral belfry]

you're next

[shell hazel]

i'll vote you for the final match Jaw

[umbral belfry]

gl

[glad meteor]

I’m safe in my global server, from you anyways

[shell hazel]

man you won 4-1 too 😮

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

oh shit scar into label lol

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

I don't love it again lol

but you surprised me on 4-1 so who knows 😄

[covert lintel]

Fahren lost?! @raven plover

[gaunt pulsar]

R L L L R? looks possible

[shell hazel]

R L ? ? R imo 3 and 4 are tricky

[dim escarp]

surprise tmrw

[shell hazel]

depends if defending SG can chomp through jackal

for team 3

[gaunt pulsar]

noise takes noir* on herself and acts as backup, sg that attack just make him faster, what i'm more worried is core 6 rosa

[tropic summit]

it works now

[oak hatch]

@gaunt pulsar it’s crazy how the cn guy is in the finals with a dead account

[fast nest]

RLLRR?

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh laplaceT
• jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit trina
• moran siren swha xmaiden noah

[gaunt pulsar]

at least we moved him out here so not gonna be in next ca for sure

[oak hatch]

I just hope he doesn’t get lucky or anything in the finals cuz that might make him come back

[ivory ore]

I'm not super educated on pvp so anyone by chance hit ideas how to switch up my attack teams if needed?
These typically do alright so far

[short plaza]

thank you hopefully I won't get curb stomped after updating my teams

[tropic summit]

depends on your bracket, no defense is immortal, unless you're gapping them

[tropic summit]

if you running scarlet, run her with trina + rh or with trina + siren, xanne and siren are mild buffers for scarlet, also s.anis does not buff scarlet nuke dmg, only post nuke damage
vesti team is for the most part fine
cindy team is very slow, bench nayuta for SWHA

[short plaza]

I'm usually way lower when it comes to cp that isn't gonna be a massive weakness in any of these teams right?

[tropic summit]

if you're way lower in CP don't expect to win def at all

they'll gap one team and commit to the other

[short plaza]

I suppose that's true but I'd rather make it a little harder for them

[tropic summit]

the teams i gave you already use your highest CP units while keeping them meta

see how they do in the next 24hrs

[paper void]

Wow mann this worked wonders i even beat someone whos 40k bp higher than me thanksss I'm ranked 1 on my rookie arena now 🥺🥺

[short plaza]

hopefully I can stay in challenger with these new teams that would be good enough until I can catch up with levels

[ivory ore]

Who should I set to burst first?

[tropic summit]

situational

• enemy has a slow team but with mihara/slow cindy? nuke with liberalio
• enemy has a glass cannon scarlet with rosanna? nuke with cindy
• enemy has anti nuke? DPS with SWHA

[valid inlet]

Oops I thought I'd lose, was lucky my Soda stunned his Vesti, and I won T1 & T4 mainly because of built level I think, my T4 missindom. Might lose if his units were built stronger

[ivory ore]

Sweet thanks for tips on that one, Appreciate the answers👍

You got an idea who'd be good instead of Summer Anis or anything else?

[tropic summit]

situational on what you facing

• if enemy is running a tanky lineup, double buff scarlet may be needed (scarlet trina rh flex jackal)
• if enemy is running tanky lineup + noah, double buff scarlet + stun (scarlet trina rh siren jackal)
• if you need to hit hard on p2/p3, add splashers (scarlet trina emi/laplaceT siren)

[hybrid fox]

eh

[hybrid fox]

insane

[valid inlet]

Congrats for beating the cn guy
Honestly I don't know how it would go T1-2, they are all quite interesting. T3 RNG and I will take T4 as you said, T5 depends on whether my Noah die before b2

Very hard to predict overall

[umbral belfry]

let him suffer nana he bullies me

[hybrid fox]

ok someone pinged me here

[valid inlet]

Wait you two aren't in the same bracket right?

[umbral belfry]

nope

I'm in the bracket below you

[valid inlet]

or he bullying you here

[umbral belfry]

he bullies me in dms and pie discord

well in here too

[formal quiver]

ya i think you should win. i need a lot to go in my favor to 3-2 and if one of them doesnt happen then i just lose

very low chance of everything happening

[valid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[valid inlet]

Nah it's RNG arena anything can happen

[shell hazel]

@dim escarp we vote for you even if everyone else thinks tenshi

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

You are

[shell hazel]

Hime! you dead or alive still in CA?

[leaden canyon]

[dim escarp]

[versed mesa]

Bas7ial in the finals

[raven plover]

damn you winning?

[ivory ore]

I need to fix my defense teams, Any of y'all got ideas who to swap out?
I Know they're not good lol
Just not entirely sure with my knowledge lol

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-dorothy-nikke-goddess-of-victory-doro-meme-punch-meme-gif-97800701242848216

[covert lintel]

ziegler is insane
He can beat fahren

[covert lintel]

Nah, if Ziegler can beat fahren that means his nikke is super strong

[arctic jewel]

@dim escarp OH?! I didn't realize that a finalist is here? Nice job!

[dim escarp]

ty

[swift mango]

Or just hard counter

[raven plover]

[wind kelp]

Guess who forgot to change cubes/teams in rookie. Guess who dropped to rank 20 due to fast-clicking matches without thinking.

Guess who...well..doesn't bother too much about that 😄

Atlaest it's gonna be fun climbing back out of the hole of my own creation

[raven plover]

ok I need credit boxes

I didnt check fahren team, he lost cus his t5 slow

[umbral crown]

@covert lintel

[wild hemlock]

[umbral belfry]

I perished to my fellow pie now in finals

so I am proud pie

[umbral belfry]

word on the streets is you got too silly this ca you fool

[umbral belfry]

holy @covert lintel in finals gl

[wild hemlock]

yeah my teams were straight demonic but I beat the cn overlord in group stage so technically this CA was still a win for me

[umbral belfry]

take this

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[wild hemlock]

Next CA I'll run a more meta setup

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

[wind kelp]

I was like a kid going through adultery, had no idea what i was doing

[swift mango]

This dude with his shit team 4 might actually win thanks to pure luck.

I couldn't help but vote for him.

[primal charm]

tove is emotional support

[umbral belfry]

wtf is THAAAAAT

holy no b2

[placid bloom]

who need B2, Tove atk spd steroid

this the SG equivalent of Abs Vesti

kill before they burst or lose

if you have to burst to win with SG team you're already behind

[magic dust]

Any idea of how I can win against that guy?
I’m losing against him using the comp above.

[wind kelp]

Turbo scarlett? Straight up scarlett, blanc, centi, jackal, noise? Or something like that 😄

[gritty ridge]

Nah, scar loses to nayuta usually

Also that team you said is quite slow

2rl noah vesti

[lusty gull]

you should watch r4 @onyx scaffold

[magic dust]

I have all of those but none are invested. I’ll be fighting at 150k deficit.

[wind kelp]

Oh do read what Bigboi said above as well, my team wouldn't work :p

[magic dust]

Yeah I’ve seen that, but it’s too much deficit in that case. Wouldn’t have worked either.

[gritty ridge]

Your team was just too slow, if you use a clip over noise it would work. High chance of misindom tho

[gritty ridge]

Wdym too much deficit

With vesti, anything is possible

[magic dust]

My comp is the one without vesti

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ik, im saying use vesti tho

Their team has 0 survivability

[ivory violet]

Without blanc you could probably still get away with running something like this as long as your dps units don't die. Really any indom team should do the trick vs that guy

[gritty ridge]

Liberalio dead

[onyx scaffold]

how could u also kill laplace? 🤔

was it high nayuta ele?

well mine is the opposite. i consider using something else next season.

[short moon]

@worthy sorrel

[lusty gull]

yes with nayuta burst

[worthy sorrel]

borgar has a good match up though, and is his first time in the finals. he's all in on pvp, so i'd take a W, but also would be absolutely stoked for him to win

[magic dust]

Team dies before bursting. Opponent didn’t burst either.

[glad meteor]

Hows this?

[glad meteor]

Oh yeah, sw needs to be lowest hp in link,

[magic dust]

I haven’t tried yet, but with that comp I’m only at 311867 cp vs 440000+. I believe it won’t work

[glad meteor]

it wont

[ivory violet]

You're gonna want to invest some of the PvP units to compete in that case

[restive heart]

@slim hedge

[magic dust]

Yeah I’ve started a bit but I’m somewhat confused with the PvP priorities.

[restive heart]

-2200 gems today

i think he is near -20k gems spent this season alone

[ivory violet]

A bare minimum would be Jackal, Noah, Blanc, and Biscuit invested. They're incredibly strong defensively and allow you to build hard to deal with comps

[onyx scaffold]

rookie...

blanc mihara biscuit cindy rumani

[north brook]

U probably have the dps already invested for campaign, solo raid, etc

U need to 4ol 4/4/4 most pvp units so they have ok enough cp

[slim hedge]

He still didn't attack me though, guess he only wanted to go for the 1st spot or something. Just can't understand the guy, he's not strong in either power or strategy but he just continues to waste his time and money

[onyx scaffold]

u nees 1.527k cp

[magic dust]

Ok. Time to farm gears instead of rocks I guess…

[magic dust]

Before I forget, what does the book at the bottom left of Helm means?

[north brook]

Treasure

[onyx scaffold]

skill level

[ivory violet]

Yeah skill 1 level 10 for the burst gen

[shell hazel]

how many gems you got?
yes

[north brook]

Ah ya

[magic dust]

Thank you. That always confused me…

[glad meteor]

[onyx scaffold]

why not attack now

[shell hazel]

it's just slow cindy

[north brook]

That just slow cindy comp

[restive heart]

btw i did ask with fellow pvp players on my group

in total i think he did near 40k gems spent in this season alone

[onyx scaffold]

rookie

[restive heart]

btw sbs counter is noah right?

[onyx scaffold]

biscuit

[restive heart]

biscuit defender?

[shell hazel]

normally people flex unlimited gems to put you off the idea of fighting them (i.e. they will always his back)
in this scenario of gem attrition I think it would just encourage me

[restive heart]

whats the meaning of RL again? i forgor

[ivory violet]

For reference there's a little i you can click on in the top right that tells you what the symbols mean. It's pretty easy to miss

[restive heart]

thanks