pvp-arena

[umbral belfry]

I have no regrets, borgar wants to win champ one time too

a worthy sacrifice

[unique wagon]

Final TL before treasures (except Quiry shud be A - Snake)

[shell hazel]

just a matter of time until scarlet drops on that tier list like s.anis does 😛

[hybrid fox]

yee u said it is awesome

[swift mango]

I remember @worthy knoll wanted to bring Ada up. Considered Scarlet still SSS. Ada could be SS-SSS just fine.

[unique wagon]

Privaty and Max reverted to C

[onyx scaffold]

Looks bad to me

[unique wagon]

I asked this to different people already
It seems that most people (60%) say S

[placid bloom]

We using B3 buffer in 2026

[unique wagon]

Give feedback

[placid bloom]

Ada is exception

[swift mango]

I'm in the opinion she should be 1 tier below Scarlet. But same tier is fine too.

[umbral belfry]

collab trust

[swift mango]

That's why I voted her S when scarlet SS

Higher tier than scarlet is dumb

[unique wagon]

This discucssion will never end

Ada S gang vs Ada SS gang

[unique wagon]

@umbral belfry opinion pls

[swift mango]

Scarlet is very weak for SpA def now. Almost useless. But still got it in CA and SpA Attack.

Ada is midding in everything but better than Scarlet in SpA def at less.

[unique wagon]

Here's the defense for both sides:

• Ada SS: With indom, she can totally demolish some comps. ATK buff and lifesteal good.
• Ada S: Not reliable. She doesn't really shine herself. She only shines with others.

[placid bloom]

Surely PrivT will add 280% Atk on FB to let people crack deficit

[unique wagon]

surel;y the stun becomes 10 seconds now

[placid bloom]

Make stun 24s to last 2 burst cycle

[swift mango]

I only talk about Ada strength in relative to scarlet right now.

Those points you wrote also said before.

[unique wagon]

Yes but Scar is still mandatory

Even if enemy got Label

its still useful for attack somewhat

if we are talking post-Label Scar vs Ada

or are we talking pre-Label Scar vs Ada

post-Label I won't be moving Scar yet

[umbral belfry]

• idk what Sakura does to deserve b ngl

• is the reason anis isn't in ss like centi bc she's SR? iirc she gives a bit more burst gen than centi does so not sure that makes sense

• said it before, og poli doesn't deserve b or even c. she does nothing

• argument can still be made about scar / emi in sss or ss but I'm just . emi has more reason to stay as she's just a lesser version of sw

[unique wagon]

moving her down will move everyone down too

[swift mango]

Even prelabel scarlet is still easy to beat now.

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

More than Ada.

[placid bloom]

Sakura counter Nayuta, nothing else there is other way to block Lib

[unique wagon]

• Niche anti-Wind for Attack.
• Cannot scale on dupes, low stat, only final pick, low CP.
• That's my subjective bias. Don't mind.
• Eh

[umbral belfry]

fair enough for #2 but still ehhh

[placid bloom]

Rest of wind not used in PvP unless rare ReiTN user

[umbral belfry]

good times using sbs

[placid bloom]

Who still use SBS

[swift mango]

Scarlet is countered by Bay, Noah, Blanc 2rl.
And the game speed is so much now that 2rl speed is easily as pie to make.
I don't need Label to beat scarlet not before, not later.
That's why Label is only for CA to me.

[umbral belfry]

and by good I mean bad bc I always ran into noah/moran bisc

[unique wagon]

As I said, Scar is not SS yet because we tried doing that and the whole TL has to shift down awkwardly

[tropic summit]

haven't seen any of them so far or heard of them being ported yet, we'll see

[unique wagon]

If Scar goes down then Rosa shud go down too

[tropic summit]

rosa has unique mechanics, can counter link, can dispel, can 1hitko, can sacc... noway in hell she'd drop like scarlet does

scarlet has counter and instant nuke, that's about it

[swift mango]

There is also W.

[unique wagon]

When I lowered Scar to SS, people complained about it

When I raised her back to SSS, it's just "suggestions" instead of complaints

there is a reason why she's SSS.

less aggression from public

[shell hazel]

who cares? stick to truth 😄

[unique wagon]

both are truths

Label is shit if no one uses Scar

[shell hazel]

refused to lower s.anis for ages and she was meh for a while, less knowledgeable people will see the list and assume scarlet is better than she is

[swift mango]

These are the delivery girls. With side jobs as former Inquisitor, Mafia boss and Terrorist respectively.

[unique wagon]

not everyone has Label

And @fathom rock says if Scar is SS Cindy has to be S

which means whole TL shifts down awkwardly

although arguably Cindy is better than Scar now cus slow Cindy exists but slow Scar is eh

I would think Scar = Cindy now

[fathom rock]

Is she

[unique wagon]

No longer > after Label

yeah she should be SS tbh

Emilia is weaker than SWHA but still doesn't deserve SS because LaplaceTr doesn't do anything on Burst

and Idw to demote LaplaceTr cus she has been annoying in my experience

if you don't have Trina, u cant do Scar team safely

Although arguably you can move Emilia to SS too

Emilia needs buffer to kill so she kinda suks but good burst gen

probably similar to Libby altho Libby is easier to block and has less burst gen

[swift mango]

The reason they are called "Penguin Logistics" is that their company boss is a literal walking, talking Penguin. (Lore: He is one of the "Beast lords", primordial beings with supernatural abilities and immense knowledge tracing back to ancient times.)

[unique wagon]

You can argue Emilia = Lib tbh

Let me check use rates

[swift mango]

No way, Emi has like 100% use rate for people who have her.

[unique wagon]

according to this site no

[swift mango]

Lib is strong in SpA AtK against deficit but I don't think it should be big criteria for evaluation

[unique wagon]

they have similar use rates

[swift mango]

Maybe some guys who skipped her

[unique wagon]

and similar winrates

probably offburst burst gen more than on burst

[shell hazel]

I've seen a lot of people with emi but not built emi :9

[swift mango]

Like @quick lake @tropic summit

[swift mango]

Yeah, she is mostly used for burst gen and off burst dmg. That makes her better than, say, Centi most the time.

[unique wagon]

both Emi and Lib is used for that sir

[shell hazel]

though you don't want to stack too many b3's sometimes even with good gen

[swift mango]

Emi gen more.

Libby doesn't hit 1-2-3

[unique wagon]

only at 2 RL

unless u got 25% CS

[swift mango]

Libby also need CS.

[unique wagon]

is it 25% though

and Emilia is water

I saw a match where Lib survived a Scar wipe and won

Emilia wouldnt have survived that shit

[tropic summit]

no need for emi when you survived with anis for a long time

[swift mango]

She is still worse than Emi when it matters. Doesn't deal much off burst dmg. Only hit 1 units. Doesn't get more gen when hitting Cindy.

[tropic summit]

i've emi what you talkin' about, i just don't need her

[unique wagon]

but arguably there is also TVesti countering Wind

but not Water

[swift mango]

[unique wagon]

but she can wipe without buffer

[tropic summit]

oh i remember i was still playing when this event came up, it had some very good soundtrack

[unique wagon]

Emilia's advantage is she burst gens more and offburst dmg

Lib's advantage is her burst is stronger altho it's easier to block on defense

[swift mango]

So they definitely do not bring character over based on who has more popularity coming first.

[tropic summit]

dayum that's a good looking swordlady

[unique wagon]

• wind so might survive an Electric wipe

Emilia is water so less dmg from TVesti but whatever

[swift mango]

Which sword lady? Don't make her gf nemesis jealous.

[tropic summit]

oh wow that was Texas?

i almost didn't realize

yeah don't wanna mess with lapland

[swift mango]

This is the unhinded crazy f Lapland.

[swift mango]

Yeah this was Texas

[shell hazel]

ok when is she coming?

yeah was going to say looks like they love ya haha 😄

I'll just sit here and play with my last rite for a bit

[dim escarp]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/surprised-anime-anime

you gonna do what with last rite

[swift mango]

That was Texas alt default art, and this is exusiai alt and Lapland alt.

[shell hazel]

|| hold hands ||

[tropic summit]

dayum

[swift mango]

Idk, I only care if Hoshiguma, Virtuosa or maybe Hibiscus come.

[shell hazel]

next up is likely wuling crew anyway

[swift mango]

The dev better give her the muscle she deserves to have for someone who could hold an apartment falling down on her unscathed with just her physical strength. Instead of flat out nothing.

When they made her end field version

I guess it's just cultural thing. KR games are fine with giving girls muscle because the KR player base is okay with it. While CN player based is not. Eng players have been asking for Hoshiguma to have muscle for a long time.

[pure moss]

Mine is guaranteed with 5% cs

[swift mango]

Try 15%

[tropic summit]

you'll be the one calling her daddy

[swift mango]

Why not?

[pure moss]

I checked with nikke top, 2.5 RL with only 5%

[swift mango]

Then good for u

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smug-25

[river dune]

Aren't the arkknights inhabitants straight up animals?

[swift mango]

They are human with animal features yeah. Oni, Angel or demon feature too.

[river dune]

I mean humanoid then not full blown human

[swift mango]

It's post apocalyptic Earth, like a million years after humanity went extinct because of Originium disease. They are new humans.
The doctor, MC is the only real human left who has lived for millennia.

[river dune]

Fair enough when humanoid is the norm , I just don't like those ppl of arkknights

[pure moss]

Will this comp work?

[north brook]

cindy has alternative upsides to scar tho with delayed nuke, and being a defender so she isnt owned by rosa/ can tank with biscuit/etc

tbh they would both be same tier now

[glad meteor]

Some people even lose to cindy because they time their noah burst too early

[glad meteor]

Not very tanky

[north brook]

scar is also a bit more gimped by label, cindys tankiness means her strong autos after 5s could still deal with a label team on disadvantage, lot of scars value is just her fast burst

[swift mango]

That not good reason to say she is good. It's more about people being bad.

[glad meteor]

Not really. Cindy nuke being sequential means fast Noah is more likely to lose

[north brook]

i wouldnt say either is great current meta, but scar is def not a tier above

[glad meteor]

Unless you use lib burst

[north brook]

she was only there because of the value for spa to have a fast scar team, how scar could dodge siren

[glad meteor]

Works nice in ca too

[swift mango]

Then slow now win but lose to fast scarlet.
Cindy and scarlet can be equal tier yeah.

[glad meteor]

Some people run label in slow Cindy

[swift mango]

Doesn't matter

[glad meteor]

Also mihara version can beat scarlet with p1 rumani

[swift mango]

Actually not

[glad meteor]

Synergy works well in cindy comp

[glad meteor]

P1 rumani i meant

[swift mango]

Can win but can lose as well

[glad meteor]

[north brook]

and sure bad players will still struggle with scar cindy etc but thats not what makes a unit sss

[swift mango]

And Those aren't Cindy strength.

Her strength is only the nuke and being defender

[glad meteor]

Decoy is a strength

[swift mango]

Not the strength of Midhara, label or Blanc.

[north brook]

decoy + defender does make her nearly most durable unit ya, easily most durable dps

[glad meteor]

But oh well. We can argue tier list value all day long without getting anywhere

[swift mango]

Both a strength and a weakness. Cindy is also ass in def team the same as scarlet while need more resources to make her team

[glad meteor]

At the end of the day its up to the player to see how to use the tools at their disposal

[glad meteor]

[covert lintel]

the whale gemming for rookie again today, amazing

[fast nest]

How the hell happened

[oak hatch]

His p1 is noise so biscuit stacks does not get used early

[floral kiln]

What's the fastest possible scarlet team?

[shell hazel]

1.6RL ish with lots of CS on batteries, but you can go faster with stuff like cindy decoy speeding you up

[glad meteor]

I got pretty fast with scar trina helm sw jackal

Without cheating with cindy rosanna

[pure moss]

will this work?

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit ty for the advise + team

Bro really hated my guts

Repaid the favour

[pure moss]

how about this

[glad meteor]

is this for sp defence ?

[pure moss]

no no for next CA

[glad meteor]

Oh

I don’t think sbs has much chance to be honest

[pure moss]

I can't have any other good b3

maybe sanis but she sucks

[glad meteor]

That team can die to vesti slow cindy, snow white team and even scar soda

[pure moss]

or scarlet there but she'll be useless

[pure moss]

can I DM you?

[glad meteor]

sure, but could just send her too

[pure moss]

nah not here, I'm cooking

[pure moss]

Sent DM

[onyx scaffold]

Scarlet Trina Helm Emilia Jackal with Emilia 23% CS from overload

[gaunt pulsar]

@oak hatch @ancient sun #gacha-rolls message we cooking more next ca

[floral kiln]

Thanks

[versed mesa]

4th SSR in two days. A damn Liter dupe who I also have had at Core 7 for 2 years, just like Viper, Centi and Alice dupes I got earlier. I guess SU decided that I don't need anymore new Nikkes or MLBs

[floral kiln]

I'm thinking about changing my Def team for pvp

[leaden canyon]

pvp gods have blessed me with a dupe of jackal and rosanna today. Jackal core 7 and rosanna core 4

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/lFCh37jYzoA?si=YLelXfd9yFfAk2ym

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

Actually I have them both Core 7 already, but please, dupes for Nikkes that actually need them for me too please

[ancient sun]

Holy I cant believe you didnt have Noah before

[floral kiln]

I actually have rosanna at mlb

Is it bad to want to spend silver tix on Noah dupes

[gaunt pulsar]

yea, game decided to grace me with another pvp unit *i actually need pve ones more at this stage but i'll take it

[onyx scaffold]

I feel like your blanc team always loses against opponent blanc

[leaden canyon]

Because his is like 1.7 or something, so his blanc rruns out first usually

[onyx scaffold]

But Soline team 1 was helpful huh
Lap p5 couldn't be killed

[ancient sun]

Same I just need some blond (I hate Crown so much) and Cindy to finally roll in my account. It looks like CA is coming sooner than I expected

[onyx scaffold]

I trashtalked scarlet team but she got me 2 wins against Biscuit

I need to apologize to her

[glossy canyon]

question about the "thunder icon" do i click it if i have 15% charge speed on my gear or should it be lighting up on its own?

[onyx scaffold]

U can click it if u have 15% cs to see more correct result.
If u dont have 15%, u can click it and see if getting 15% would help anything

U gotta click it on your own.
If it is clicked by default, it means the site uses cache data

[glossy canyon]

okay thank you

[spiral onyx]

Yeah, my teams are always full of charge speed and generally faster than others. Which means in a Blanc vs Blanc matchup, I almost always lose

If I make my Blanc team slower, I risk losing against fast nuke teams

So there's really no solution here

Such is the rock paper scissors life

[finite wedge]

Well you don't have to worry about that because Prydwen's GFL2 section shut down after all the staff quit because of Mica

[delicate dock]

anyone got suggestions on how I can improve my SP arena def?

[onyx scaffold]

1. remove anis for higher cp. u can use centi there. then use laplace with treasure in centi slot.
   or u can use rumani there and use something else instead of redhood to burst faster.
2. try to recook with meta units. i think u can find a way to plot in Moran
3. imagine how you would beat yourself and defend those

[delicate dock]

I don't have moran or laplace built, should I?

[north brook]

No its one of the better options avail for silver mileage

Mbe new treasure batch will have some value

[cedar sorrel]

Moran is already a top tier pvp and is getting a treasure as well so she is defo worth

[delicate dock]

ah gotcha

thanks

[umbral crown]

Then go for it, my vesti has 17

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[umbral crown]

[oak hatch]

Sign to become a pvp main

[gaunt pulsar]

considering my invest i'm already am

[upbeat dock]

@hollow lagoon you ruined my pvp

[hollow lagoon]

What I do

[upbeat dock]

Noone has broken me since, nothing to do now

It’s been two seasons and a reshuffle

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hotd-dodge-bullet-bullet-anime-gif-22264002

[gaunt pulsar]

easy fix - self sabotage

[hollow lagoon]

Run my comp

[upbeat dock]

I will remove my defences in a few days to give them the taste of the top spot

[hollow lagoon]

You are welcome

Make sure ur blue nikkes are level one

[upbeat dock]

I guess i can start using my OL resources on my pve units now

[gritty ridge]

Why do I not b2 before scar nukes here?

[glad meteor]

Since Vesti is last hit to the 100% gen. Team isn’t true 2rl prob

And they can outspeed you

[gritty ridge]

Top says im safe

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

I won anyway cuz moran solos, but it was upsetting to see

[glad meteor]

Scary

[leaden canyon]

he might have more cs on trina, jackal and maiden?

[gritty ridge]

Thats what im thinking

[leaden canyon]

it has to be since top is accurate

[glad meteor]

Yep . CS on 2rl team will help outspeed

[hollow lagoon]

@gritty ridge Can you kill people at 50% deficit yet?

[gritty ridge]

I havent checked

[hollow lagoon]

Damn so I won’t know if I’m safe

[gritty ridge]

Id assume 40-45% to be the max tho

[hollow lagoon]

What your sync again?

[gritty ridge]

350 now

[hollow lagoon]

Mmm i can gap u by around 50% yeah

[gritty ridge]

38% is the max ive hit personally

If I could use ada id assume I could hit higher by alot

[hollow lagoon]

I currently gap sync 421 by 50% ish

I assume I prob can gap u by 50%

I’ll prob be safe for next reshuffle from you, but I’m scared of the sync 661 whale

@tropic summit Breh he synced to 661 im scared

[glad meteor]

Whale Wars

[hollow lagoon]

He’s 202 server numbers older than me

Frighteningly close

[gritty ridge]

@hollow lagoon look at the server and syncs

[hollow lagoon]

They old boi

[gritty ridge]

Theyre 18 servers newer than me

[gritty ridge]

Well youre on a different server

[fast nest]

whale of whale

[hollow lagoon]

Breh is not whale, he’s the sea it self

[fast nest]

I just searched how far the game start day is different. 4day diff.

[hollow lagoon]

From me?

[fast nest]

you Nov 14th? he Nov 10th.

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet

I’m screwed

[fast nest]

By typing nearby UID and seeing the last access date of account, the game start date can be identified because of dummy accounts.

[hollow lagoon]

I wonder what’s the chance of that thing merging into my spa

[fast nest]

Idk for oldage server in globu. Whatever, for July-2025 account like me, we have around 1 day diff.
It would be fine unless many people in ur start-day group quit the game. It is globu server. The 2nd largest server.

[floral kiln]

I'm in NA server and most people in my group quit or hyper casual

[fading ermine]

[keen vapor]

Cool

[umbral crown]

Echo would never

[keen vapor]

I only need to beat hard mode

[umbral crown]

Do you

[keen vapor]

Actually, I need new chapters to release that way when I open boxes I'll get more, I'm so smart
Oh hohohohoho

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

waos

[pure moss]

I finished cooking. No more sg comp next CA. 2.5 RL Nayuta comp and 2.5 RL trio

I need another good b3 and no more scarlet comp

[umbral crown]

Im almost removing SG

But i already removed scarlet

[severe dawn]

Hello, I would like to ask some questions refer to this table 🤗
(These teams were recommended by @tropic summit to my friend few weeks ago)

1. In the Tier column, why does tiers gradully increase? Can it not show only 1 tier? Like only 2 RL Burst

2. In the last team, why use Liter? Is she bad in pvp, isn’t she? My friend also has Noise

[gritty ridge]

The tiers on the side show how many bullets you shoot and how much you gen based on time increments. You dont need to pay attention to that. Only pay attention to the team gen rating.

As for liter, she is used for her massive b1 buff. Shes not ideal but she has her occasional uses for when you dont have/already used redhood.

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

You can't really go without neither scarlet nor SG, we don't have enough burst 2 for that.

well actually you can.

but wheter or not it's better is another problem

I can't thought, because I don't have an absolute team

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

wishlist them

you will get them faster than rapunzel

[swift mango]

I did

[umbral crown]

good, now just trust the process

[swift mango]

Infinite - 100

[rich quail]

I wishlisted Arcana from the start

Took me like 8 months

[swift mango]

I never got maid anchor by pull from after her banner until now.

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

just trust

[north brook]

Never got her, had to get with guarantee on new years xd

Luckily xsoline came after only a few months

[swift mango]

team 1 gen is over kill, it's still 2rl even if you remove Centi and one of SW/Helm

[delicate dock]

Any suggestions?

[rich quail]

I also used sselector on Soline

Then I got her on a normal pull after her banner

I prolly need Label now

Because for the anti-Scar tech on SP atk

[north brook]

Tbh most ppl will prob drop scar anyway now

[rich quail]

But I haven’t done anything in sp in over… 8 months now

[north brook]

Just since any label comp makes beating scar free and makes it easy to hyper invest 1 other team to win

[rich quail]

Yeah I see it happening all over too

Scar is one of my best units, too

Sucks to see it happen

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

Scar prolly still a decent option in CA

because randomness

[keen vapor]

Scar downfall

[rich quail]

But team comp prolly needs to change

[rich quail]

CHO

I recently got my Scar ammo to 40

[keen vapor]

And never got her to 30 ammo

[rich quail]

I enrolled into the Echo school of meta

[north brook]

Ya tbh since ppl will drop scar in spa, wont have much use for label in spa, and could attack with scar in spa still

[rich quail]

[rich quail]

Attack still an option for sure

But not def

[north brook]

Think i literally rerolled my scar from an atk + ammo line to just atk and nothing to get the low ammo xd

[rich quail]

Yeah I got like one black ammo line I think

No wait

one 60.71% ammo line

That gets you to 40

With 47.25% atk

So at least she can avoid Siren stun

But I curse the day Label was born to this earth

[swift mango]

60% get her to 32. and she only avoid stun at 32 below

[swift mango]

tbh I don't need label at all to win atk 3/3 against opponents at similar level.

scar is just too easy to beat. unless you indom her.

[swift mango]

I rolled off 3 blue ammo from scarlet

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-angel-beats-1

[swift mango]

from c1 to c2.

[teal haven]

Help me form please 🥺

[tropic summit]

post them in order of strength and from this section

[glad meteor]

🧑‍🍳

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/machikado-mazoku-shamiko-4

300 years later, finally found her via wishlist: #gacha-rolls message

@glad meteor @hollow lagoon

[rich quail]

I think that’s what I may end up doing with her on CA, and use other units for aoe nuke

Still think Scar can be scary if invested

I did invest a lot on her, so I’m hoping it won’t be wasted

[tropic summit]

indom scar last time i used her in CA had a pretty decent win ratio

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

although there are better options nowdays

[glad meteor]

Wutdahel

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/selection-project-idol-6

[glad meteor]

Indom is stronk as usual

[rich quail]

There are for sure

But my other units are not at as high a level yet, which is what I’m working on

Dunno if I can survive without Jackal when using Scar

[tropic summit]

if your choice is investing for CA, then don't, silly resource sink without any value behind it

rather build units like SWHA and VestiTU if you didn't yet and fishing black lines on them

[rich quail]

Yeah that’s what I’m doing now

Especially for Campaign

Stupid Hard 38-32

[tropic summit]

[rich quail]

iykyk

[ivory violet]

I used a secret technique to clear that stage which was to wait until I hit 581

[swift mango]

for a fleb you are shotting too high
Build another 10 units are better than fishing black line on one for the same cost.

[tropic summit]

29% x4 ele damage let's go

@teal haven 4 at a time

[teal haven]

.

This is all my nikke I beg you to help me make a best pvp team🙇

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• centi anis cindy rh doro
• vestiTU liter blanc drake jackal
• crown rrh alice trina noise

Rookie

• naga cindy vestiTU RH jackal

Notes

• finish your PvE team (RH/RRH/crown/cindy)
• build helm T
• wishlist SWHA, biscuit, noah, rumani, siren, nayuta

[teal haven]

Thank you very much🙇

[plain kayak]

Everyone, what do these numbers mean?
Does a higher number mean the Burst faster, or is it the amount of Charge Speed they need ?

[lucid falcon]

I didn't use to pay too much attention to PVP using basic teams but I keep getting farmed by this one dude over and over again and it's pissing me off, can someone take a look and recommend me some solid teams from my roster? Rookie/SP Arena.
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTAxNDYwNzg3Mjg5NjQ3Njk4NTg%3D&type=combat&openid=MjkwODAtMTAxNDYwNzg3Mjg5NjQ3Njk4NTg%3D

[tropic summit]

the higher the better

taking trina for example, clip RL, she gives you 28.8% burst gen at 2RL and 43.2% burst gen at 3RL

cindy, one of the lowest burst gen contributors, gives you way less

[unique wagon]

If LaplaceTr Cindy Scar Lib are in SS, and HelmTr SWHA VestiTU are in SSS, where is Emilia

[tropic summit]

demote scar, demote lib, demote laplaceT, keep cindy as is, emilia is less relevant than helmt swha and vestitu, but makes sense to be either S or SS

[unique wagon]

Ok scar is sss then

Too much demotion

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/takumi-nishijou

~~what in the world is going on with that tierlist anyway ~~

[unique wagon]

What is going on with u*

[tropic summit]

told you already, that tierlist makes no sense the moment someone has to look at it from an attack or defense standpoint

attack lib? SSS
defense lib? pepega, C

a proper tierlist is far away until people actually put effort and separate the context

[unique wagon]

Burst generated

[unique wagon]

The fact there is none

Means no one wants the extra hassle

[fast nest]

Is pvp tier list updated?

tove is in A?

[north brook]

tbh the pvp tier lists all pretty laggy

way behind the current meta

[unique wagon]

So stop pushing your zealous agenda. It is good but no one wants the extra hassle

[fast nest]

I remember you asked around and I thought it was concluded back in the days.

[unique wagon]

Elemental TL in PvE is even worse. Thats 5 elements.

Attack and Defense can still be maintained but I dont want the extra hassle

[fast nest]

I see. it is because of special arena? damn label.

[unique wagon]

All defense are breakable anyway pointless TL

[north brook]

tbh if it was separated, could glean more info

[fast nest]

I agree

[unique wagon]

No wipers are in SSS on Defense. Only Noah and Blanc

And maybe Rosa Moran

Scar is even weird

The Tier List is meant to welcome beginners into PvP, not become an objective benchmark for veterans.

Cus theres no point reading TL if ure a veteran

[fast nest]

Anyway, back in the days, the pvp-tier picture that you surveyed didn't have tove in A but the website still has tove in A. So I wondered when it will be updated.

[unique wagon]

Treasure release

Still there is war about Ada being SS/S

Unsolved war

Any tier I pick, someone complains

[fast nest]

Push your idea. if it is wrong, change it later.

[fast nest]

As you said, the webpage is more valuable to beginners in my opinion.

[north brook]

well ada is on the rise with swha

[unique wagon]

Has any1 tried sanis ada

[fast nest]

in pvp? nope.

[north brook]

a dps with big aoe and burst gen who likes adas buff on her and gives ada a slot

[unique wagon]

I want to see sanis ada

[north brook]

sanis is prob not going to happen, theres no synergy there

[unique wagon]

Im sure someone has done this
There is synergy wdym

[north brook]

sanis already buffs herself

[unique wagon]

Not enjf

Ada buffs and heals

[north brook]

problem with ada support is also just u need enough gen there, think it mainly just works with swha because she gives team 1 flex slot at 2rl already

anything else ur not fast enough/dont have enough defense etc

[unique wagon]

Then she just enables

[north brook]

ya tbh id guess shes more like s

[unique wagon]

XMaiden enables, MiharaBC enables

I think the argument for SS is because she can be a glorified Alice

Kill Moran team

Considering SS

Not many can kill Moran

Also bypass Biscuit

I think she can be SS but

Ill let the other people decide

The units in SS+ rn put pressure on defense. You need blanc or noah to block. Idk how annoying Ada is

Does Ada put enuf pressure that attackers MUST use Noah/Blanc?

[north brook]

think shes primarily good flex unit, dont think most ppl run her bursting

u can just label ada

[unique wagon]

Good point and wdym Label Ada

Using Label as tank against Ada?

How tf are u gonna achieve that

[north brook]

hence shes mainly just support flex

ada electric

[unique wagon]

I can only think of Blanc Ada. Kill whole team so Ada gets stuck on unbroken Label

[north brook]

true damage not really true, affected by dr

[unique wagon]

5s duration

[north brook]

ah ya she was like emi

[unique wagon]

Are u suggesting 1v1 Label Ada

[swift mango]

How about take S.Anis, put her into the trash can and use Crown instead to buff Ada? :

[north brook]

ya that is free on attacking

[unique wagon]

Ig Label wins 1v1 vs Ada

Skill dmg gets reduced, direct dmg is weak

[unique wagon]

Idk cus Ada doesnt have AoE?

[north brook]

didnt ada not hit full opp team or something

[swift mango]

Lebal dmg reduction is 5 second. When ada start doing serious dmg it's already gone.

[north brook]

just 1 target

[unique wagon]

At least SAnis can heal unless she got Noah blocked or something

[swift mango]

neither S.Anis.

[unique wagon]

Not the one on herself

[unique wagon]

Wdym she doesnt ok ignored

[north brook]

idk theres surely a reason no1 uses ada b3 as carry, think killing 1 opp def not enough

[unique wagon]

Yeah these are not truthful facts

[unique wagon]

Maybe emergency B3

Can buff and can still burst well

Sometimes the enemy just doesnt crit...

[swift mango]

her charge shot is really strong and it hit 2.

[unique wagon]

Its 1

[north brook]

think ada just used for the healing and ya

[unique wagon]

Where is the 2 from unless u show me proof

[swift mango]

Many people use b3 ada it's better than SAnis

[north brook]

just killing tank not enough if ur already taking pressure from opp

[swift mango]

The true dmg hit one, The charge shot is normal RL shot and it hit 2.

[unique wagon]

Ada basic attack hits 2. Skill 2 only hits 1.

[north brook]

like thats at least true xd

[unique wagon]

WHAT DOES HER CHARGE SHOT EVEN DO

[swift mango]

you need prove for common sense?

[unique wagon]

Does she EVEN hurt with that

[swift mango]

deal more dmg than her true dmg hit.

[unique wagon]

By how much % of a suppoters HP

I only care if it can kill Biscu P2

Now say

[north brook]

but theres reason ppl not running sanis now anyway

[swift mango]

it can, depend on investment

[north brook]

think ada b3 kills moran but then just dies to vesti/swha/etc

[unique wagon]

I guess I will place her in SS if her charged shot does indeed hurt P2

[north brook]

actually wouldnt label work, her shield does become immune to dmg when bursting

[unique wagon]

Yes

[north brook]

she has dr for adas regular dots, and shields the big hit

[unique wagon]

She can 1v1 Ada but

[north brook]

ya nvm again was correct, label does prob counter

[unique wagon]

Label does counter Ada

[north brook]

her shield has 10s invuln

[unique wagon]

But is less achieveable

I can only think of Label P5

Cus her shield has to be alive and she doesnt die too fast

I guess Label isnt that bad as deterrent

Might consider her S even and keep everything else A

Label can deter Scar Cindy attacking and I guess Ada if ur team is good

Forces them to play slow

[north brook]

label hard counters scar/cindy/ada tbh

[unique wagon]

Might consider Soda and Siren in S too

But when I showed that, people were like "put them back at A"

[north brook]

soda could, shes faster and does 2 stuns

siren no, most legitimate teams are siren proofed

[swift mango]

if you wanted to buff ASS, use RH, there is just not enough slot to Add both ada and a b1 buffer like RH.

And RH is better

[north brook]

siren is just seen more because of noobs and her tending to have good cp

[unique wagon]

Hmmm

[north brook]

soda is strictly better, is more of a different rosa who stuns 2 at b1 speed

[unique wagon]

Ada is better, RH is worse wdym

RH is better if u need B1. Ada is better if u dont.

What are these takes

Maybe ur RH is core max, ur Ada is 0 copy

[north brook]

rh is 78 caster atk, ada is 60

main upside of ada is the heal

can give durability to vesti/swha

[unique wagon]

Sanis also buffs ada basic attack tho, which happens more infrequently but

It still triggers once per 2 secs and she gets nice atk up

I think Ada is better

U dont need double dps but it doesnt hurt to have another

I will talk to someone about Ada being S or SS

Maybe Keripo

[unique wagon]

How bad is Ada burst hen

I will probably go with SS

[north brook]

dont think ada bursting is viable

ud see it suggested/somewhere if it was

[unique wagon]

Burst gen*

[unique wagon]

Its an attack niche

[north brook]

killing tank and dying to the dps is not a niche

emi good because she oneshots whole team

[unique wagon]

Wdym everyone needs tank nowadays

Just glass cannon tvesti if u dont

Brb

[north brook]

ada just normal rl gen, like bay or noise

[unique wagon]

Good

[north brook]

like ada noah vs vesti noah, ada will kill moran noah, then vesti kills adas whole team

[unique wagon]

I thought its woese

[north brook]

like its just not used

[unique wagon]

Vesti is sss sir

Why compare to SS

Bruh

[north brook]

ada follow up really not that strong i think, dont think anyone uses her bursting because of that

[unique wagon]

Its strong I watched

[north brook]

because she requires noah or indom to function, she would need to be worthy

[unique wagon]

But yes she needs tank like all other ss b3

[swift mango]

I'm using it for my def, it's better than Scarlet.
For CA people are getting to champ with her b3 every season, it's not bad.

She a midding in everything as I mentioned before but she isn't bad in anything.

[north brook]

guess i see one of her b3 in my ca

idk seems like lib spammed so much, but theres just few adas

ada is good but prob not like ss

would depend more if the usage rises

ah that guy using ada b3

its the one team he has thats losing

xd

[fast nest]

Ah. ada b3 team with SAnis? I was considering its comp in newbie CA. like Jackal Ada SAnis Blanc HelmT.
Theoretically, she can one shot all. Assume 40% atk inc.
(140k x (1.4+0.6+0.4+0.40)-26 x 1.37) x 4.2 x (1.92+0.28) x (0.83-0.0969+0.3926-0.3514) x 1.5 = 3824k
So, I pulled her by max core but I remember I quitted to think of using her because of releasing of Nayuta.

In addition, in pve, ada's granade bypasses shield. So, her granade may not be blocked by label's burst.

[unique wagon]

Its not blocked but reduced

It works AGAINST Ada

Reduced by 95% unless blanced

Ig 55% cus blanced

[fast nest]

Ada will be used with blanc. right?
(140k x (1.4+0.6+0.4+0.40)-26 x 1.37) x 4.2 x (1.92+0.28) x (0.83-0.0969+0.3926-0.704) x 1.5 = 2082k.
2shot

My calculation is assumed in CA.

damn mb. It is true dmg. Why did I consider def.
Moran : (140k x (1.4+0.6+0.4+0.40)) x 4.2 x (1.92+0.2787) x (0.83-0.0969+0.3926-0.3514) x 1.5 = 4204k
Label : (140k x (1.4+0.6+0.4+0.40)) x 4.2 x (1.92+0.2787) x (0.83-0.0969+0.3926-0.704) x 1.5 = 2289k

[hollow lagoon]

Oh god u didn’t have rouge

[unique wagon]

Hu

[scarlet adder]

hello, who wins this? (up defends)

[unique wagon]

Top i think

TTTBT

[fair pivot]

Reading all the Ada talk when Ada skipped

[shell hazel]

sorry for the delay but I've been dead/ill lol. to better fit stuff like vesti by default could the default option be 2.5RL sort for the burst gen?

2RL vesti is like on the 4th row

2.5RL is probably a more accurate place to better show the high burst gen units

then people can adjust if they want to see 2RL

[lusty gull]

you can do it yourself now, sort options are saved
or maybe i don't understand what you mean

[shell hazel]

should be initial option for any brand new sessions

or like incognito or w/e

nice if it saves your pref but I use incognito mode sometimes if I have a deck open and want to do a new one

[lusty gull]

i will keep 2RL as default and i don't understand why use private mode

[shell hazel]

point is the default should be the most relevant - and I think 2.5RL show cases the units by burst gen better than 2RL

[shell hazel]

I have a deck I'm working on and I want to add a team quick to show someone without clearing my current deck?

if someone says what team do I need to beat X with I can incognito a new deck and add it quick

so the only change I'm suggesting is to make 2.5RL the default sort for all new sessions, I think this is better in general and for people that may not fully grasp what this sort does as well

[lusty gull]

you can save your current deck
using private mode means download all the app each time and so more hosting cost

[shell hazel]

I don't do it all the time just sometimes

anyway is just a suggestion but it's your site so up to you ofc

[pale knoll]

[unique wagon]

Are you nikke deck builder

[lusty gull]

[unique wagon]

Bastial hates me

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

I made him addicted to spend gems in pvp, huge w for me

[mossy locust]

Any special arena team suggestion?

[restive heart]

while mine be like:

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[lusty gull]

i only don't like your tier list

[unique wagon]

🙁

But u said it's good

U liar traitor

Youve fallen down my based list. - Solvenir

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/koshi-torako-shikanoko-9

[lusty gull]

it's a kind of joke but last version i saw was worse

[unique wagon]

The version IS THE SAME VERSION

I didnt even change pic except moved up Priv and Maxwell, so Ig you just got another look with a fresher mind.

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anchorIM rh centi viper
• jackal vestiTU blanc trina drakeT
• noise lib swha siren noah

Notes

• treasure helmT asap
• utilities are mostly low invest, build up noah, biscuit, jackal, noise, centi, blanc, trina
• build up SWHa and vestiTU asap

[unique wagon]

[lusty gull]

this #pvp-arena message and #pvp-arena message

not the same

[unique wagon]

Sir, you suggested moving down Label Soda Siren and Soline so I did, and then u say now it's worse

Come here u little shi-

[tropic summit]

[lusty gull]

you want to move scarlet

[mossy locust]

thanks

[leaden canyon]

rail I got some footage to show you but spies are around

its popcorn worthy footage

[tropic summit]

for this time i'll allow exceptions and DM me with it

[leaden canyon]

I got no nitro so that doesn't work anyway

I'll just send it and delete after

[tropic summit]

🍿

lmao so spicy

the last round true 🍿

[leaden canyon]

yep

I knew you wanted to see if his buffed vesti could chew through that

[unique wagon]

So what rank shud she be

[leaden canyon]

and now its gone for spies to never see

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[unique wagon]

I saved it

Dont worry will repost it

[unique wagon]

Now Ive got a bm material

For Dair
That wasn't expected

[lusty gull]

sss

[leaden canyon]

[shell hazel]

I'm not even running scarlet this CA

[leaden canyon]

a bold move

[shell hazel]

into top 8

[leaden canyon]

RNG

[hollow lagoon]

I haven’t ran scarlet for a while now

[plain kayak]

SS

[shell hazel]

I ran this for this CA

team 5 is extreme cope though admittedly lol

[unique wagon]

What rank

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[leaden canyon]

Might as well run scar for 5th still anyway, rapunzel scarlet soline centi rumani

the cheeky rapu stun

[shell hazel]

it's possible it works

my soline not much good though not that built

[leaden canyon]

Just need the skill investment

in fact just add trina to it instead of centi and put centi over with the other team

[shell hazel]

I was trying out trina to buff moran

[leaden canyon]

Its fine if not running scarlet yeah

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, insane cope, might help in some situations where you plan to stun b3 but the problem is that rapu with lib doesn't really help her to land burst over noah teams anyway, you just stall them for a 1 sec and they b2 noah before her burst lands

[shell hazel]

haha yeah I know, it won 3/6 so far 😛

it was my worst performing team in general

it beat slow cindy I think as a concept

it should counter any normal slow cindy it meets

but will lose to most other stuff

[leaden canyon]

Man I want the treasure kits to be shown already

Centi I just have to SR 15, but priv isn't even overloaded and blue doll

[gaunt pulsar]

hopefully it comes with collab

[shell hazel]

it's 2.5RL though ofc

guess might be fine?

and yeah trina can swap in (same burst gen more or less)

[leaden canyon]

Should at least still perform better than the other one

[shell hazel]

although needs some CS, not sure my trina has much my Centi has 15% but scar without trina kinda mid

[leaden canyon]

both rely on rapu stun anyway

[shell hazel]

guess soline makes rapu stun more reliable

often if it fails it's because opponent didn't do enough damage to rapu

[leaden canyon]

Yeah if she gets down to the amount of health she needs soline can keep her from dying before burst

should still do better into sg team

than the other team

since most people run nayuta with it

And soline can help prevent sg kills

[shell hazel]

not using lib anywhere though

[leaden canyon]

I mean lib is meh

[shell hazel]

not the end of the world but feel I should

[unique wagon]

Ok Scar Emi will stay SSS. Ada go SS.

[leaden canyon]

Man tier list is still shuffling around?

[unique wagon]

Yes

U have input sir?

[leaden canyon]

Last time I had input was like what 2 weeks ago

thought it would be done by now

idk what ever I said back then stands

M.anchor actually strong

[shell hazel]

I also had an idea to throw scarlet in with jackal team as literally just scar counter slave lol

but I feel like my SW team with jackal/blanc does well enough anyway

it's 6/6 so far

[leaden canyon]

can also just do the SWHA blanc team without jackal

however that uses biscuit

[shell hazel]

yeah too much re-org maybe but hell we'll see what I want to cook/run I don't really care that much if I win or lose anyway

so sometimes I'll just send what I want to see fight it out lol

[leaden canyon]

My bracket is just cursed with top pvp players

total rng if I get far

My team placements always feel unlucky

[shell hazel]

I've won twice, I've lost in the finals 5-0 lol, I've not qualified a few times, so much RNG 😄

[leaden canyon]

I still have yet to win

Made it to 2nd before

[shell hazel]

had results that put me at basically every level

I gotta fight with @dim escarp for top 8 in an hour or so, last I checked it was like 13-14% voting for me lol

top 8 is really competitive a lot of invested players here and big whales with lots of cores

[long chasm]

Need help

[shell hazel]

I don't get to do much pvp so the main thing I use CA for is actually getting my teams to fight something

[keen vapor]

Where's 2 RL
Noah biscuit Cindy helm Rumani

[vapid lake]

What a 🐳

[keen vapor]

And, yeah? Blanc vesti should work against Bay vesti

[keen vapor]

Where's your Ada

[long chasm]

Different enenies

[keen vapor]

No what?

Ada Wong

[long chasm]

And whale change his deff team

[swift mango]

whale?

[long chasm]

?

[keen vapor]

Idk, no skin and lower level

[keen vapor]

try use Blanc team on rookie first and see who gets Indom

Ada with vigor equipped of course

Forgot my bet, login in real quick

[high stream]

I fear I have to pause my PvP investment for a bit to get my Missilis and Tetra teams in tower up to par

[swift mango]

The guy with more skin and synch calling theguy with lower synch and no skin whale.

[keen vapor]

crazy

[long chasm]

Or vesti can too?

[keen vapor]

That's another guy
And personally not a fan but..... Yeah Vesti can work

How did the Ada test go

[unique wagon]

ADA BLANC?

[unique wagon]

"Can too" which means she worked

[long chasm]

Rookie season end i think

[keen vapor]

Vesti Ada Blanc

[keen vapor]

We're cooked

[unique wagon]

Ada solo carry

[swift mango]

depend on your vesti ammo

[unique wagon]

Ada carry pls

[unique wagon]

Sanis Ada

Blanc Ada is gonna be toxic

[swift mango]

There is a reason you don't see Ada indom recommended for attack often, because her dmg barely enough without buff so it's not something we recommend other to do because not sure to win.

[unique wagon]

Indom + Heal

[unique wagon]

So S tier then

[keen vapor]

A summer Anis Ada team wouldn't see more value on Noah team?

[unique wagon]

So just use buffer?

[swift mango]

I don't really care about her tier. But she could win if you know your roster.

and investments.

[unique wagon]

Idk whats the context

[long chasm]

I not attack yet

[swift mango]

The guys recommended atk here don't know 100% the asker roster so they dont want to risk

[long chasm]

Still confuse about team

[keen vapor]

What about the other 2 teams

[unique wagon]

SAnis Ada cope

[long chasm]

Here enemies line up

[swift mango]

I just said Ada should be one tier below scarlet. You should ask merry this question he said ada should be SSS. scarlet SS.

[unique wagon]

Fight fire with fire huh team 1

[long chasm]

Moran kinda strong deff

[keen vapor]

But then you showed another guy.

[unique wagon]

U shud win why is their Nayuta in P1

Oh wait they want u to indom instead eh

Team 1 feels stupid ngl

Sg war

[long chasm]

Oh yeah yesterday i fight someone moran in rookie

Here

Now enemies bay team next

[swift mango]

I'm gonna atk my C1 with Ada later and pin you the video. Note that my ada only have 10% atk

[long chasm]

Even vesti full buff cant kill moran lol

[swift mango]

Can you tell your vesti and ada investment? Because this shouldn't be possible normally

blanc as well

[tidal lichen]

not sure how solo but i have this

my vesti wasnt able to kill that swha

[long chasm]

I think ada for support just need skill level?

Just lv 15 doll

[unique wagon]

And maxed skill 1

[swift mango]

Ada need max s1

What about Vesti and Blanc? Blanc just need skill showed. Vesti is the one OL lines matter

Anyway max out RH would be a better buffer here I guess.

[shell hazel]

problem with vesti damage is you frontload a lot

and that gets eaten by noah shield

snow white is better at moran killing because noah shield disappears when you nuke

[swift mango]

With enough buff it doesn't matter. They're gonna die in one volley

[shell hazel]

you can out-stall vesti with a good enough moran

[swift mango]

Unless biscuited

[swift mango]

1 buffed Vesti sure.

Not 2

It could be thanks to his investment that resulted in worse than just Blanc+Vesti from other people.

[shell hazel]

I nuked this whales moran with sw + ada indom here in top 16 just yesterday
https://youtu.be/Y-puIwp9drQ?si=SlkWv6262pRScjqf&t=116

[swift mango]

Example:

Vesti no ATK line, 777, ada 777, Blanc 777

[swift mango]

It's normal, and?

[shell hazel]

I think my vesti would struggle if I swapped them

so you need more buffs on vesti

[swift mango]

You won't

But she would need enough CS and Ammo at least

And some atk

[shell hazel]

I had vesti and SW reversed last time and this seems to do better

for CA comps

my vesti doesn't really have the endless ammo to carry an indom properly

[swift mango]

Ofc max skill Vesti and Ada s1+Blanc s3 is a given

[swift mango]

Yeah Ada was blocked by biscuit here. Tough luck. Maybe with enough CS should could shoe in one more hit during indom and win. Who know

[shell hazel]

alright time to find out if I lived or died

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

3-2 good luck in the next one Jaw 🙂

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[dim escarp]

rng arena hit again

[shell hazel]

it's all good

[onyx scaffold]

i will copy better next time

[dim escarp]

No idea on the next one (I haven't check) but Tenshi will prob stop me anyway

[scarlet adder]

top won, thank you

[dim escarp]

I ll check our match later this day

[long chasm]

Max skill

[shell hazel]

3-2 so was close but my teams which lost were more or less crushed to death

[unique wagon]

Heh t1 is lost

[shell hazel]

I sent your trina to the shadow realm on your scar team but your soda stunned my noise lol, thankfully no trina to b2 🙂

[unique wagon]

Weird but bsdoda carried ig

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit he gemming again

[unique wagon]

Imagine defending against someone with a pitless wallet

[glad meteor]

I’ll take this as a win fot now

[glad meteor]

wels

I’m smol fishy

🐟

[shell hazel]

my matches with jaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_i84yMmdh4

you've got big whale kun next

[glad meteor]

Bro cooked

[shell hazel]

my cope pepper p5 wasn't much of a defence haha

[swift mango]

Were

[hollow lagoon]

Were

[swift mango]

Try RH buff next time instead of ada

[tidal lichen]

she did win there

with miranda tho

[unique wagon]

No scar

[swift mango]

Difference guy.

[unique wagon]

Scar

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/scar-thelionking-gif-15913837062508407848

[unique wagon]

BSoda carried better

[shell hazel]

no scar indeed 😛

[unique wagon]

Hmm

[swift mango]

Laplace burst is arguably worse than just letting her do off-burst dmg.

[shell hazel]

I wasn't winning t5 even if it had scar anyway

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

defending SG's they'd just chew me up from p5

with no jackal you can't do much

[swift mango]

use soline

[shell hazel]

yeah actually discussed that one earlier but mine I am not sure if she's arena ready tbh

blue r-0 doll with 8/4/4 and 2/4 OL

though I suppose I could SR-0 her if I didn't want to spend doll mats investing her too much

[swift mango]

Will we have another aid event or is this the maid even of this year?

[keen vapor]

Bunnies sells more

[swift mango]

My shit teams lost today. Luck has its limit.

[unique wagon]

Oh no he knows

Blood proved that he su-

Who is swordsmy

Must be swords from malaysia

[swift mango]

I keep saying my team this season was shit. It's a miracle it got this far. Because the opponent even shit-er

I should have burst with Label to be honest. 1 buff Vesti can't win.

[glad meteor]

Now we wait for moranT

[swift mango]

It didn't meet a second single SG team this season that this formation was supposed to win against.

[hollow lagoon]

Prob won’t cuz we going straight for collab it seems

[swift mango]

[glad meteor]

Whole team survives vesti surely

[swift mango]

Moran wipe team alone, no need for b3

[glad meteor]

Reflect 100% of damage

[swift mango]

Man I keep getting back shot by SG that can't burst and lose. Twice over 4 fights.
My shit teams should lose but this way suck.

Like the only team of mine that this SG team could beat and it needs to be the defending team.

What's the chance of meeting 2 guys using no burst SG on Defend on this same position.

Match up is really rigged

[torn obsidian]

imagine losing to tove

[swift mango]

Tove doesn't need to do anything here. :

[torn obsidian]

I know

you lost to a 4 unit team

how is your Laplace even dying they don't have Noir

[umbral belfry]

@valid inlet gl

[swift mango]

The power of 4 SG and maybe crit

[hybrid fox]

Bruh

[swift mango]

Darn my Rosa got countered to death.

Losing by bad luck isn't funny.

[hybrid fox]

My team 2 lost
Somehow their SWole is revived
I saw her icon go dark and she live and bloody shoots all my Nikkes
Then 3rd team siren didn’t stun
Sad

[leaden canyon]

siren will never be able to stun jackal there, she feeds jackal burstgen too much

[hybrid fox]

yeah their Swole was the problem

my swole always died from rosanna so I thought the same for them
but clearly my nikkes are not usually weak

[leaden canyon]

if it were me I wouuld nayuta rosanna jackal helm emilia round 3

[leaden canyon]

Is your rosanna jackal linked?

Because if not then SWHA breaks her conceal

[hybrid fox]

I think not

[swift mango]

Man I got zero rocks 2 days in a round already. Guess it's my bad luck streak. Today CA lost was full of bad luck. And I also dislocated my left leg after an afternoon nap today. Bad luck come in bulk.

[hybrid fox]

[hybrid fox]

so I lost... how to win?

[hybrid fox]

say WHAT
how HOW
I never heard someone dislocated their leg, let alone with a nap 😭 wtf

[shell hazel]

you dislocated your left leg?

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[valid inlet]

Thanks @umbral belfry but I feel I’m going to lose this time, my teams will be countered very badly

Btw it’s a Rei showdown

Good luck to @formal quiver instead

[umbral belfry]

rei

[formal quiver]

this guy beat eon too glgl tho

[swift mango]

@unique wagon Here, even double/triple buffed Ada can be locked behind biscuit and lose. That's why she could never be better than scarlet.

I have seen success case with Slow Ada though.
I guess 4-5RL ada would be less likely to be locked by biscuit.

Big pepe dmg though. For a level 526.

[umbral crown]

Investment issues

[glad meteor]

SW took too long to kill the team

So after noah ended helm triggered biscuit s2

[hybrid fox]

if rosanna not linked then I go centi > HelmT it works?

[swift mango]

Next CA I probably will come to bracket #3 of SEA as the smolest guy again. Well, it's still just luck in the end.

[oblique ridge]

Keripo versus Minecraft Steve

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-villager-minecraft-rocket-gif-27128546

[umbral crown]

[unique wagon]

You mean low dmg?

Or big dmg

I need a translator here

Kindly translate

[unique wagon]

Hnmm

I know ure smol irl

[glad meteor]

Hey, Do you know at what sync normal people start to get sr museum at step 100 ?

[empty wharf]

general question non- whales started just a day or 2 before the Red hood premier ( basically only buy skins i don't know if that counts I don't buy nikkie powerup stuff) i used to get attacked by lots of people but that seem to abruptly stopped at some point I hover top 15 - 9 sa and usually top 10 rookie now i only get attacked by a few-- some of the are way above me but on e --- i attack them and win --- but they attack me and win --- and it just cycles ill be a x rank --they be at x rank then we switch -- i change my defense they change there nothing change its like nothing either of do will stop the cycle . is that a design flaw in the game itself ?

[swift mango]

It's big dmg but against the biscuit block it's useless.

For reference my Jackal core +2, max doll, and body's HP is only 6.7m

[swift mango]

[shell stone]

Technically, if you have everything and they have everything and know the game perfectly, and CP is always on par with everyone else's, you should never lose on attack. If the other players are in the same position, then that means you should never win on defense.

Could be wrong tho.

But as far as I know, there's not a single unbeatable Defense team. Everything has a counter.

[north brook]

did u take a break? itll always be around when acc started date happened, just how game is designed

they reward dedicated players/whales for getting more lvls than others

[oak hatch]

Nikke PvP prob have flaws but normally it makes sense for opponents to be able to counter u in PvP on other games too

[north brook]

if u mean the endless swapping in SpA, just happens when ur about even in strength to someone else

better buy boxes to outlevel them

that what su wants anyway

[shell stone]

It should be that way too. The second a single Defense team becomes unbeatable by any other, PvP is going to become a wasteland, because whales are going to brick everyone else from getting points. As it stands, within Combat Power parity, Player Versus Player is a pure knowledge check.

[tropic summit]

make him gem harder

[empty wharf]

thanks everyone --- from what everyone said this sound like a glorified game of rock paper scissors ( Mabey they should upgrade to Sheldon's rock paper scissors lizard Spock 😆 )

[tropic summit]

it is indeed rock paper and scissors

SU motivates people in spending because CP advantage is the only real "wall" preventing someone from attacking you

people with same or near same invest will always be able to win on attack, unless they're a monkey and don't want to learn

it's a poorly designed mode, lacking QoL and lacking interest from SU to actually bother fixing it

[north brook]

tbh its a little more like rock paper scissors gun, opps will need a gun team to beat ur gun team

[tropic summit]

just get good enough to secure yourself ch4-ch10 ranks, else dia1 will do for the weekly gem income and go do something worth your time

[empty wharf]

basically done literally cant go any further on my server because of the sync level whale wall i seems to change during shuffles but i basically sable between 15 -9 i special arena -- this rotation top 10 is all huge number players

like sync level 550 and up --- they should probably shuffle based on sync range groups x- y one group u-x the next level i -p the massive whale group

[oak hatch]

I’m sure they’ve thought of this but it’s better for them to design it to tempt whales to spend more