pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

he aint even using noah

tf?

[north brook]

He just crazy pve invest, so way better cp

[hollow lagoon]

my curren full pad vs not pad

[leaden canyon]

I figured it out

[hollow lagoon]

he looks like he's doing well, the mfker that farmed me for a while

[restive heart]

true. but helm makes harder to beat it somehow…

[onyx scaffold]

003 skin with cindy skin

[leaden canyon]

Becuase of the healing+DR+deficit

without healing I can do it

[restive heart]

😭

[limber anchor]

What is the current anti-scarlet strat?

[tropic summit]

that's scarlet 2024

[limber anchor]

nvm, I figured out

[fading ermine]

[tropic summit]

any team on 2RL with noah biscuit archetype and a strong B3 DPS (vestiTU)

[limber anchor]

I went with Scarlet, Blanc, RH, Trina and X.Maiden, but thank you anyway for sharing this information .

[tropic summit]

ballsy choice, but if it worked good for ya

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit how long does sparena keep the recoards

[tropic summit]

until i'm done with your sister

[hollow lagoon]

hippo denys being my sister

[eager frost]

How to play this team? Do you have a brotherHow to play this team? Do you have a brother to help me? to help me?

[tropic summit]

around 4 months

[hollow lagoon]

well i have over a year on mine

[eager frost]

I've already lost five.

[hollow lagoon]

indom

of sorts

with a nuke

[tropic summit]

run this brother

you need at least 165k CP

[umbral crown]

thats nothing, once you spend some things become more fun

[tropic summit]

someone talking from experience

[eager frost]

hI'm only 122 K.

[umbral crown]

i once had a gem war with someone for a whole saturday

[tropic summit]

ok then don't bother, you're gapped and will be hit by stat penalty

[umbral crown]

maybe

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit well we got this now

[hollow lagoon]

possibally my entire sparena history?

[haughty mortar]

Why ty good sir

[tropic summit]

time to add noise instead of RH

[tropic summit]

and let's run project kill blanc

[leaden canyon]

What is that like helm and SWHA

[hollow lagoon]

have we enough fire sniper for that kkeel blanc project

[leaden canyon]

I mean shes not SR 15 but blanc still pretty tanky

[tropic summit]

would be a shame if blanc died pre 2RL B2

nayuta and 4 SRs do just that

[hollow lagoon]

u told me before p5 snipe wasnt real

[tropic summit]

it's real with dair's box

MF has snipers with 40% atk

[hollow lagoon]

why dont i get to do it then

i have them on 30 ish

[tropic summit]

prolly good enough

[hollow lagoon]

and i have deficit gaming (for now)

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/maomao-disgusted-apothecary-maomao

[hollow lagoon]

oh my redhood only got 10%

rip

she's mostly cs rolled

[tropic summit]

4 snipers with nayuta are probably lethal on p5 regardless of atk% anyway, it just ensures whatever is p5 dies

[leaden canyon]

I'm kinda surprised you didn't suggest alice instead of lib there

[tropic summit]

want to be 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

my alice is urber bad

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/perfection-michael-fassbender-1

[leaden canyon]

He got 81 so hes geming me to find something that works

[tropic summit]

didn't even need nayuta

that made me wet a little

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-twintails

[hollow lagoon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-lego-mL9hrLt0MuKnhS76Pp

[leaden canyon]

My snipers have a lot of attack

but nayuta for sure would have sealed it

[tropic summit]

yeh no chance to live that

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel you were right uh

[leaden canyon]

I'm not familiar with that crossover, is it an anime or what

[tropic summit]

it is

an actually decent anime at that

[hollow lagoon]

i have no clue but mlb it is

[tropic summit]

you make it sound like there's a scenario where you don't

[hollow lagoon]

gotta get the level cap higher

[hollow lagoon]

didnt mlb delta ninja...

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/disgusted-anime-1

[leaden canyon]

Once I roll higher attack on my vesti I get to work on my nayuta and lib

I hhave so much cp to gain

[hollow lagoon]

lol

[tropic summit]

those are your gap core units at this point

[hollow lagoon]

cp to gain

[leaden canyon]

both are like 340

Actually hold on let me show you my nayuta because I'm actually not 100% sure how I should go about rolling her with what she has

[hollow lagoon]

empty lines kek

[tropic summit]

atk% ele% is all you need

[tropic summit]

you can throw crit rate / crit dmg for added RNG

[tropic summit]

raise ele and atk here

[leaden canyon]

thats the problem

[hollow lagoon]

vesti?

[tropic summit]

as far as i know she doesn't need ammo at all

[leaden canyon]

No thats nayuta

[hollow lagoon]

oh ok

[tropic summit]

40% atk nayuta with RH buff is like 60-70%HP gone

on ele weak you're lethal even on noise buff

40% atk
80% ele

and you've a wet dream

[hollow lagoon]

[leaden canyon]

so just ignore the crit rolls I have on her for now and just go for the rest of the attack and ele lines?

[tropic summit]

i'd say yes, crit is just RNG and i wouldn't call it reliable

[leaden canyon]

k

[tropic summit]

aim for atk% or ele atk on line 3

then lock it and reroll for atk or ele atk depending on which is missing

[hollow lagoon]

u aint catching me doing that for my vesti untill i'm rock rich

[leaden canyon]

I guess since I'm just fishing for attac or ele, should I lock those line 2 lines?

[hollow lagoon]

that's mine boss

[tropic summit]

touch legs for last, the other 2 are easier to roll

[leaden canyon]

I was going to say thats not mine, I dont have hit rate lol

[hollow lagoon]

and no i'm keeping the crit dmg

[leaden canyon]

this is my nayuta

I have line 2 attack and 2 pieces withh line 2 ele

[hollow lagoon]

roll atk on chest line 1 it seems

[leaden canyon]

ok yeah thats what I thought

[tropic summit]

legs are easier to solve here

other 2 pieces are going to be annoying

although you can fish for the right line on line 1 which isn't bad

[hollow lagoon]

legs just roll line 1 ele

[tropic summit]

ye exactly

[glad rock]

Sorry guys, whats the natural counter to this?
My SWHA getting nuked

[hollow lagoon]

i should be rolling my nayuta and lib as well but

i gotta fish my 3rd ele on my sbs

[tropic summit]

slow cindy material

[leaden canyon]

This is my lib, a bit more of a pain to roll

[glad rock]

[tropic summit]

run blanc midhara biscuit cindy rumani

if midhara isn't available, any SR unit with high atk% (alice, RH, ein), stay 5RL

[hollow lagoon]

just gotta sink rock

[glad rock]

Brilliant. Will give it a shot

[leaden canyon]

but yeah not looking forward to fixing this

[tropic summit]

you're in a no hurry

you regularly 3%, your dmg in UR is high, your pvp is secured, your HM is onpoint

[hollow lagoon]

2 ele sbs lel

[glad rock]

Ah, looks like cp gap

[tropic summit]

doesn't matter, you're perfectly fine as is, save up and build recent broken units instead

[hollow lagoon]

cant be worse than the crit rate lib i got stuck with

[tropic summit]

you can run that team gapped

ensure it's within 15-22%

[glad rock]

You are a genius. You cooked

[glad rock]

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i think i might as well stick with the crit rate lib

[tropic summit]

gambler life

[glad rock]

Shall wait for reset. Dont want the dude to change his lineup again

[hollow lagoon]

it do syngy very on volume+ maid duo

numbers be very orange

[shell hazel]

yup

I like the anime but I doubt everyone knows of it

[dim sapphire]

whats good counter against snow white indom?

[north brook]

Rosanna

[tropic summit]

• same speed but higher fire rate indom (ein, scarlet, s.anis)
• slower indom
• rosanna to kill her before she indoms

[dim sapphire]

so 3rl?

sw usually 2.5rl

[north brook]

Tbh snow indom is really not very good use of her

[gritty ridge]

[stray yoke]

anyone know the exact time (in seconds) the delay before liberalio's burst hits

[tropic summit]

you can find out yourself, watch last matchup here
#pvp-arena message

(no CS% involved)

[gaunt viper]

well it worked out

@spare nimbus

[spare nimbus]

maybe put noah p5 next time

[gritty ridge]

Rail, im curious abt snow indom fire rate

Does her 15 shots connect before or after indom enda

[gaunt viper]

alright ill try that

[swift mango]

1rl slower indom

linked Rosa.

Add scarlet for size

[swift mango]

That line 1 20.75% would be something I spent 20 rocks for and locked

[still storm]

@tropic summit also need new defense

[tropic summit]

remind me does your laplaceT have more HP than SWHA and vestiTU?

and if you've vestiTU

[still storm]

yes

[still storm]

yes

[tropic summit]

run these you're on the left

[tropic summit]

for defense run these

[merry knot]

what was the math to check the CP deficit?

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy team CP for 0.846, your team needs to be above that value

[merry knot]

thanks

[still storm]

is it okay for defense to be slower? also should I consider getting noise to sr5?

[tropic summit]

what do you mean slower? you don't have some of the units i gave you?

[still storm]

no just wondering why they aren't all 2rl

[tropic summit]

ye noise needs SR15 actually

[tropic summit]

sheet doesn't account for CS%

e.g. vestiTU team is like this

[still storm]

yeah my vesti has 14.93% cs

[still storm]

rip I'm running out of doll mats
can I try to so if sr5 will work for now?

[north brook]

Id try to be ready for new treasures instead

[still storm]

already have privaty and centi at sr15
moran at sr5

[north brook]

Ya could max moran

Or hold resources, invest when info comes out

[still storm]

rip my noise

can I try and see if 7/7/7 can keep her just barely alive?

[pure moss]

[north brook]

Depends on ur opponents, noise just wants doll invest to tank, not mandatory if ur opps dont kill her before burst

[still storm]

yeah I'm fighting with people around my combat power

[tropic summit]

if you suspect noise will die pre bursts, you can use rumani for the time being instead, although you're running p2 siren as backup anyway at least

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[rich quail]

[still storm]

also should I hope nayuta on t3 doesn't get stunned?

[tropic summit]

you've a backup T2 there aswell, although yes ideally you want nayuta to B2

if you've high CS% on emilia, helmt and centi you can be siren resistant

that's something you can work on later on

[still storm]

only 1 t11 cs on emilia

however my helm is 16.5% cs

[tropic summit]

the irony, you facing archetypes i gave you in T1 and T2

[still storm]

first team had has too many stats

[tropic summit]

T1 needs 2076k, it's doable

[still storm]

problem is siren stun might be too late

[tropic summit]

nah you aint gonna siren that

[still storm]

scar trina nuke won't work either

[tropic summit]

show CP with this

[tropic summit]

looks good, ensure quantums on the units i gave you in the pics, record and run it

only 1 change:

let's ensure lib has a better chance to live after emilia's pokes

tempering on lib
quantum on noise and centi

[still storm]

rip my tempering is only 5

[tropic summit]

eh it will have to do, better than running without

[still storm]

well here goes

[tropic summit]

don't expect T1 to win, but it's worth a shot

T2 and T3 should be the safe bets

[grizzled ginkgo]

How do i win against this team?

[tropic summit]

do you've rosanna 7/10/10 atk% 20-40?

[grizzled ginkgo]

Skill yes but not the atk%

[swift mango]

Scar+Soda+Trina+Centi/burst gen flex+Jackal

[tropic summit]

it will do, blood suggestion is also fine if you've soda built

[still storm]

T1 noise and Centi died way before lib

[tropic summit]

haha i guess it was asking blue doll noise a bit too much

all good on the other teams, nice

[still storm]

the scary part now is defending
I was double teamed

[tropic summit]

if you don't have soda built for blood's suggestion, you can run this

you need 1004k CP

if it doesn't work i've another card you can play in case

[swift mango]

Rosa needed link or she wouldn't be able to kill SW.

do a 3rl Noah instead

[swift mango]

@grizzled ginkgo unless you had 80% ele it won't work.

[tropic summit]

he has 99% ele

[swift mango]

well you may kill noise before she burst

[tropic summit]

noise is linked

[grizzled ginkgo]

Lost unfortunately

[tropic summit]

popping rosa cloak kills her dmg too much afterall, can go noah biscuit archetype with a DPS B3

@swift mango all yours

[swift mango]

Blanc+SW+RH+Biscuit+Non-Fire flex(HelmT)

[grizzled ginkgo]

🙏

[glad meteor]

Ratgirl where

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/janedoe-jane-doe-zzz-zenlesszonezero-gif-13782949296456670258

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zzz-zenless-zone-zero-6

@glad meteor

[forest zodiac]

may I ask for help with this? whatever on screen actually won yesterday but it was pretty bad I'm scared to send that again

[north brook]

Mbe would run ur own vesti on indom, both sanis drake speed them so much they burst and ur team all dies

Mbe could moran on noah mirror

[tropic summit]

ballsy unprotected noah in p1

[forest zodiac]

shotguns time?

[tropic summit]

SG + rosanna there would have a party... 2 water codes and unprotected noah

keep in mind you can also melt noah with vestiTU + drake alone, then get some utilities in (jackal and blanc for example), killing their only B2 will turn that team into an auto attack team, if p1 or p2 is indommed/invulnerable, they won't be able to do much else

[sage nexus]

Is there any site or something where i could see arena comps and learn a little more about how to build good teams?

[tropic summit]

basics to get started:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

unit by unit guide to get ideas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit

familiarize yourself with burst gen:
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

sheets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JUiiuHysG3vlWRPVx_wT6zUwkc5Ob9n8G0azCbuwlA8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

teams ideas:
#pvp-arena message

[sage nexus]

Oh boy didnt expect so much so fast damn thanks. I guess i have some homework to do now.

[forest zodiac]

@tropic summit did I screw up much?

probably 4rl is too slow in t2

[tropic summit]

T1 is direct counter, good but overcommited (don't need biscuit, your T2 does)
T2 is a bit of copium because of wind code link, get a better flex than siren
T3 looks ok. a better B2 would do more

[forest zodiac]

wasn't sure about which b2 to put in t3

[tropic summit]

here's a few tips to improve those and build upon

as you can see with T1 you can free up biscuit that way
T2 you've now a protected p1 and p2, can afford taking way more punishment and commit burst gen
T3 just adding vestiTU instead of noir, she'll do more dmg on noah

another hint, assuming you've quantum 7, you can nerf enemy rosanna via swha

that opens up helmT to be used in T2 to give you large burst gen and hit 2RL via feed for your indom

SWHA early pokes will pop rosanna cloak, revealing her and nerfing her dmg to non lethal

[forest zodiac]

t2 seems to be closer to 2.5rl so I build 3rl?

https://iili.io/fZqpoge.png

putting swha with literally anything in t2 looks to be too fast

[tropic summit]

sheet doesn't account for CS%, always assume opponent has vestiTU on 5%CS+

in this case you need a same speed indom, or you'll be killed by vesti nuke

the high fire rate choice of RRH is correct although

[forest zodiac]

well then swha it is idk

[tropic summit]

you really sure?

what if i told you...

team is promoted to 2RL via feed, scarlet has higher fire rate than vesti

helmT is open because you use SWHA in T1

final draft:

[nimble root]

hey guys, need help countering this team

[forest zodiac]

didn't thought of touching t1 at all

[tropic summit]

you can take the easier approach of focusing on 2 teams, that's not wrong

what i gave you is a chance for 3 wins instead

[forest zodiac]

and it did!

[tropic summit]

if vestiTU lower HP than SWHA and jackal

• jackal vestiTU blanc centi swha

if SWHA lower HP than vestiTU and jackal

• jackal swha blanc centi vestiTU

[forest zodiac]

thanks

[nimble root]

thanks a ton, looks like I gotta build my blanc out then or at least finish her, I think she has full OL gear at least

[rustic sandal]

Welp, I'm finally put in my place.

[tropic summit]

secure ch4-ch6 against those you can def, you can still poke at higher ranks near reset

[rustic sandal]

I should at least stay at 4-6 since I stayed at CH3 for 6 days.

[rustic sandal]

Is there no way to improve my current def team?

[tropic summit]

what's your def team

[rustic sandal]

[north brook]

Mbe u should be coping with bay instead of grave at least

Idk if that would help tho

The third team the only one that seems semi functional

Ah guess that 2nd just cp pad

[gaunt pulsar]

t2? idk, probably cp drop which isn't the best

[rustic sandal]

I definitely have the most bricked team. Idek how I lasted in CH3. I think they just realized how much of an easy target I was.

[north brook]

Rouge could mbe become label, she has actual defensive value

Might still use cindy because shes durable

[rustic sandal]

Cook y'all. If I need to CP pad, lemme know.

If I need skill upgrades, I can do 4/4/4.

[north brook]

Tbh u will need to keep running pveish teams with high cp until u get some pvp comp strategy units other than nayuta

[rustic sandal]

Ass wishlist.

[north brook]

U have the dps, need the supports

[rustic sandal]

I need the burst gens.

I did not need 3 Yans.

But the game gave it anyway

[gaunt pulsar]

t1 is fine, best you can work with probably in it, needs quantum though, hope someone has it here
t3 same deal, from what is visible and with what you have, anchor can be any rl unit that has higher cp, swha needs quantum to make team a little bit faster

t2 very weak, if something goes wrong you burst with alice and she is dead second after, or she stays alive but cannot kill anything because they have block there via bisc or nayuta. my idea i've posted earlier - makes you a little faster, loss of crown or not doesn't cost you anything because you have backup grave, lib burst is good at your stage, especially if we can just bait someone to spend noah on that team, cindy at p5 denies enemy lib burst gen and ruins their own setups, also works as backup b3 for that team, label reduces dmg from electro in case they send cindy or scarlet against that team, + better burst gen than liter.
It's still your slowest team though unless it fights 3rl it's in bad position regardless

[north brook]

Could attempt a sg spam team with nayuta, then a pvp core comp using vesti, swha, helmt, (bay, label), and a cp pad garbage comp as diff idea

[gaunt pulsar]

what Isabel doing here?

[rustic sandal]

Arcana.

[gaunt pulsar]

no arcana or isabel on account, that still barely used on elec raid content and this man plan on getting both while still missing drunk scarlet

[north brook]

Isabel is elec sr mainstay for sg team but ya id consider someone else

Like rapunzel mbe

Drunk scar is honestly kinda bad now, usable in ca still, but almost all teams built to deal with her

[rustic sandal]

Label pretty much removed her from being in DEF teams.

Need me some Elec units. The only one I have is Cindy.

[north brook]

Tbh id expect a pilgrim tier elec in future

Mbe for half anniv

[muted stag]

help

[north brook]

Only elem without 2 that can be run together

[gaunt pulsar]

scarlet based teams as a main b3 lose their value true, but she is still an amazing unit and her counter is unique and strong enough to keep pressure on enemy

[rustic sandal]

T2 and 3 win but deficit. Could be tricky.

[muted stag]

any other units i coud use foor better CP?

[rustic sandal]

Cook for this man. I can't.

[gaunt pulsar]

remove any filter besides "power", that button shouldn't be blue, your box doesn't make sense because you have some filter on

probably RL's toggled only

[rich ledge]

This guy is gemming so much

[tropic summit]

and for ch5...

[supple plover]

@gaunt pulsar sorry for direct ping. Could I ask you for help with making defense teams?

[rich ledge]

He hit me from 3 to 5 then hit me again at 5 haha

[supple plover]

This is my current set-up and I never got contact with Nero teams

[tropic summit]

nero p1 with blanc p2, true wizardry

[gaunt pulsar]

@ancient sun friend? recognize the account

[supple plover]

Yes well2play is helping me a ton..

Well you people are doing it heh

I have been lurking and learning as I go

[gaunt pulsar]

ok, will look into it, I have your blablalink anyway

[covert lintel]

Let him be
He want to learn

[supple plover]

It's not a pressing issue and I don't take anyone's help for granted. I am grateful to everyone's help

[supple plover]

Also! I am following your instructions so my utilities have more CP. Noah has more cp than last time. Next is probably rummani or centi

[tropic summit]

let's get him to hit you instead then, for learning purposes

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit the factory must grow

[tropic summit]

i've built the most weird working blueprints in a while to fit xianite farming

it doesn't even fit in the screen anymore, you need to move around to see it whole

[shell hazel]

I'm not being that space efficient but I'm using every single mineral I'm mining so I figure I'm more capped there

[tropic summit]

ye you don't actually have enough resources in wuling to fit the whole space

[shell hazel]

same in valley 4 at least for me

[tropic summit]

slow but steady is da way

[shell hazel]

I've set up some planter loops to just grow some plants I'm not using because all my ferium is going to batteries and capsule A's

I expanded the wuling bases to max size as well but there is like nothing in my 2nd base atm 😄

[tropic summit]

i'm using the 2nd base to buil the injector thingie

[shell hazel]

I made the mistake of using legacy power grid mode instead of xiranite power grid mode for my connections so some time I'll probably run around and replace them

[tropic summit]

wuling batteries are op, 1.6k

[shell hazel]

did you get 12 dev in valley 4 yet? it unlocks meta storage transfer which lets you materialise some goods out of nowhere to send to wuling

I'm using it to magic 1500 ferrium over to wuling every hour

[tropic summit]

ye i did

[tropic summit]

exactly the same

[shell hazel]

that with a few places could be very powerful

not sure if it's enough to magic batteries over to a new region for all the power you could ever need

[lofty spire]

how do you counter this? siren always targets blanc no matter where i put her and noise

[tropic summit]

that's because that's how she's intended to target when used in p4, she will shoot p1

simply fix your team positioning with blanc in p2 and jackal in p1 if you're 2RL

it will ensure you B1 in time, as siren stun happens at 2RL B2

and blanc will no longer be prevented from casting B2

keep in mind you're in deficit, 979k CP needed to avoid it

also mirror SWHA is not a good choice for this matchup

[acoustic raven]

How about this team guys,and what the bes cube to use, thanks

[tropic summit]

defense or attack?

[lofty spire]

fr? how do you manipulate who siren targets then? i've always been confused about how to use her

[tropic summit]

enemy siren in p1 and p2 is tauntable, hence she can target noah unless you're on a noise taunt priority
enemy siren in p3 p4 p5 is not tauntable and will default target p1

[acoustic raven]

Iam using both because lazy to build team

[lofty spire]

aight thanks for the valuable info

[tropic summit]

scrap scarlet for defense, she's trivialized by label

scrap cindy if 2RL-2.5RL same fate

[acoustic raven]

Oke noted

[tropic summit]

try to fit a SWHA and vestiTU in your teams instead

[acoustic raven]

What mean or how to know the RL

[tropic summit]

T2 is fine btw

[acoustic raven]

I dont have vesti,but have swha only

[tropic summit]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[tropic summit]

swha is a good start compared to scarlet, you can work with that

you can refer to these: #pvp-arena message

[acoustic raven]

What mean if icon lighting used?

[tropic summit]

CS%

[acoustic raven]

Oke thanks

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

he needs help my god

[restive heart]

just opened nikke today and didnt expect he attacked me

[restive heart]

still same def team btw…

[tropic summit]

holy f

[restive heart]

super cringe def team that you can defeat it super easily

like easy 3/3

[tropic summit]

i'll give him credit for struggling with T2

but T1 and T3 really hard to excuse

could slap the most braindead 2RL teams against those for all it matters

[acoustic raven]

Ada wong can replace with?l dont build it

[restive heart]

emilia or laplace

[acoustic raven]

Emi and laplace in my nayuta team :v

[tropic summit]

vestitu, xmaiden

[acoustic raven]

Oke noted

[gaunt pulsar]

i'm not that great of a cook but some improvements we can make:
t1 - noise noah on tempering cube, others whatever best lvl8-9 you have. This team is still close to 2rl cause of your 12% cs besti, investment wise it's good already, no real improvements besides working on your noah to make but that can wait. should be about 480k cp.
t2 - something i want you to try cubes doesn't matter there, put whatever, it's actually 3rl regardless, deck is missing some energy there lowest cp team right now, at around ~415k
t3 - would counters alot of stuff, and in current state Drake needs vigor cube, ideally instead of drake there should be noir, but we cannot make her work rn, she has better lines in your case and buffs for swha just not enough hp to make proper blanc indom setup, doll level holds her back. would be around 454k cp

Investment tips - work on swha skills first, skill 1 skill 2 should be 10, burst can be 7-8 for now, leveling it to 10 only if you have extra materials. she lacking atk% rolls too and it could hold her blanc setups. her helmet is easy reroll, there not a single useful line in there, body can be rerolled too, one 15% ele% on slot 1 with useless line 2 is kinda bad, better to search for ele or attack line 3 and then add missing 1 and 2. Just make sure to collect some rocks before you do plan to improve her, doing it only few rocks at a time could tank her cp if you will get correct line 3 but low tier for example
other stuff to work on is your batteries - trina/centi/rumani/jackal, no need to go crazy, just basic OL gear.
Moran/rosanna/ada/laplace to treasure even basic drunk scarlet would be useful to you in pvp too, but can take your time and plan it out

if new def still doesn't work can cook something else or maybe someone else will

[restive heart]

shii good stuff

[covert lintel]

I always get attacked in rookie and spa

Low cheer again

[tropic summit]

beat the odds

[limpid spade]

Hi guys, can anyone enlighten me why Helm targeted Label?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango

link is vestiTU ada and jackal, yet label is targetted, fascinating

[covert lintel]

Rate my cook

[tropic summit]

your cook is: "i don't wanna die pre burst, but i also don't wanna die after bursting"

[gaunt pulsar]

someone here explained that her delusion status that gives her attack is on match enter, and that activates from left to right, so first is jackal link that is on match enter too

because of that she doesn't have enough attack for link at enter but after link applies

[tropic summit]

eh hold on... link is on the other 3 units, but she retains highest atk?

that's wild and perfect to bait units that target highest atk% and you want to prevent nuke with overflow on link

[gaunt pulsar]

swha kinda the same but due to self attack buffs after charge shot, you can unlink her and she still will be highest because after her first shot she gets what? 45%?

[tropic summit]

my god SU and their coding

[supple plover]

I will get back to you as soon as possible. I have few work related issues that need resolving for now. My Laplace is R15 (doll) and I have some mats ready to go SWHA will have skills 10/10/7 (I can make her burst 10 but it's not needed?) I need t3 skills mats. I want to work on Rumani and Centi (railtracer's advice as my utilities are not the greatest) so Moran can be next. Rosanna and OG Scarlet are next on the list. I had to gear up maid mast and anchor as they were needed for my Campaign pushing (I don’t have crown so I need other characters) If you think i should build others first let me know. All of my gear exp went to the Noah yesterday as she was low on cp too.

[tropic summit]

@covert lintel it's nice and dandy unti it meets 2 buffs (one of those being blanc) cindy i guess

[covert lintel]

We can get moranjack with that setup
So moran will be gigachad strong

[tropic summit]

being linked to water code is a minus although

[supple plover]

(Gear lvl up order Rummani -> Centi -> Moran -> scarlet/rosanna if you have other suggestions let me know! [Also somewhere i should fit Trina ])

[covert lintel]

It's fine, water code is just sac
My purpose is to make moran build up until the opponent's dmg becomes 1

[tropic summit]

won't become 1 if they're running blanc, but i like the idea

if anything for CA it has good odds

[covert lintel]

Let's see who will steal my idea in the next ca

[unique wagon]

Hello

[gaunt pulsar]

swha burst 10 is smaller gain than her skills 1 and 2, it's more for cp bump. it's obviously always good to have higher dmg and ensure she takes as less shots as possible to kill enemies over their various forms of sustain, but yes you really can wait with leveling it.
It takes about a week for each character from no OL to full iirc, but rumani is definitely a priority there, and don't bench your pve units in favor of pvp, if you need to work on someone else for it - they should be priority, pvp isn't a race and investing in various units might not result in desired gain but you still lose time and resources to do it, so plan accordingly

[limpid spade]

thank you

[supple plover]

My Campaign (because for me Campaign and Solo raid are 2 different things) is okay for now. I am stuck at chapter 41 Behemoth but it's CP diff as I can't survive. Prolly ch 42 boss (fire weak) will be easier and I have summer doro, SWHA and Maids

Also thanks for letting me know that it takes a week from 0 to OL

[lethal karma]

this team has been attacked relentlessly, sometimes winning sometimes dont, any changes needed here?

#pvp-arena message my roster list

[lunar pawn]

very awkward teams

no noah, unfortunate, but you do have blanc, so you should make an indom team for sure, with like tvesti for example

trina+sbs is pretty awkward too, we know label is around but I'd still value a trina+og scarlet combo

alice and crown just don't belong in pvp nowadays unless you're doing a specific atk team or cp gapping your opponents

[tropic summit]

use a different B3 instead of SBS, something instant

other 2 teams are sort of ok

SWHA would prefer being behind noah/indom although

[lethal karma]

is cindy/ein good alternative with their aoe?

[tropic summit]

vestiTU can be used as instant nuker too

[tropic summit]

label exists, so i'd say no... but if you got nothing else

[acoustic raven]

Nayuta better sg team or this team

[lethal karma]

rough but its BiS for me

[lunar pawn]

I don't think label is used as often as people think she is

most people haven't built her or built her enough, or have no idea when to use her, or miscalculate and use her vs slower nuke teams

[lethal karma]

ive seen her being used alot in def teams

[lunar pawn]

or, don't have her

[tropic summit]

sure he can take the risk, better than an SBS that's gonna get taunted into invulnerable defender i guess

[lunar pawn]

label in def team is kinda pepega isn't it

[tropic summit]

it is very pepega... assuming who's attacking has braincells

[lunar pawn]

wasted slot

[lethal karma]

how would this pan out?

[tropic summit]

cindy p1?
what is blanc doing?

fix cindy team positioning into

jackal anchorIM cindy centi lib

[gaunt pulsar]

19s nayuta (well more like 14-15

[tropic summit]

and just remove blanc from there if you're not indomming

[gaunt pulsar]

no wait a sec, i'm dumb, that would only happen if nayuta is stunned and even then she isn't bursting

[lethal karma]

is there something wrong with cindy placement?
i havent checked if blanc could indom SW yet, im about to try shooting range to test out, which was the idea of putting her there

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 gives enemy RLs 1.75x burst gen

cindy in p2 gives enemy RLs 1.25x burst gen

cindy in p3 gives vestiTU and emilia extra burst gen

you should try to NOT help your enemy on defense teams

[lethal karma]

theres burst feeding i have to take to account?

[tropic summit]

no just cindy decoy hitbox count as 1 more hit for RLs

[lunar pawn]

btw rail

[lethal karma]

oh i see

[lunar pawn]

what do you think of t4?

[tropic summit]

high chance invulnerability pops on blanc and cindy

which means lib will kill the B1

if you cannot cast blanc B2, you won't last long enough for DoT to lethal, especially with rapunzel healing

meaning, top team is likely to win

[lunar pawn]

you think there's not enough time to b1?

[tropic summit]

enemy will be kicked into 2RL via cindy in p2, they've 2 splashers

nayuta kicks in, lib kicks in by 3RL, that slow cindy needs 5RL

rumani is very likely gone by 3RL

even assuming best case scenario, invulnerability somehow doesn't pop on cindy and you get to b1 and b2

enemy has sustain, they might live it out

that team is losing either cindy or rumani, both won't live

[lunar pawn]

doesn't lib have a delay though

and if I can b1, b2 and b3 are basically secured aren't they

so nuke would leave only nayuta standing

[tropic summit]

no

enemy casts B3 on 2RL

liberalio nuke on 2RL B3 will land on 3RL B2

that slow cindy will hit B1 on 5RL B1

rumani or cindy will not get to 5RL alive

[lunar pawn]

just hope the rest of the teams endure, cheers

[tropic summit]

[lethal karma]

i tried testing t3 in shooting range around 5 minutes being confused why blanc's indom wouldnt trigger until i realized she wasnt the one bursting

[tropic summit]

i thought it was obvious...

[lethal karma]

i thought blanc didnt need to burst to trigger indom do not ask why

[split oyster]

can someone makes me a team, im new

[lethal karma]

also how would this team look instead?

do trina buff ein also since shes considered "rifle"?

[gaunt pulsar]

from videos you've send yesterday i dont see emi to be on 25% cs, in deck 25% isn't with her skill, it's 25% on top of her skill, and they are like on 8%cs emi with maiden too and rapu at 11

[lunar pawn]

oh I was being generous

unsure if it'll survive even if we gain 0.5RL

[gaunt pulsar]

do you have any cs on yours?

[lunar pawn]

0

[gaunt pulsar]

👌

[lunar pawn]

[gaunt pulsar]

probably not in time for anything, so yeah dead unless your rumani gets a stack

[tropic summit]

no, she's SR not AR

[tropic summit]

way better

[lunar pawn]

cs on rumani+biscuit+quantum on both would at most get me to burst at like 4.5RL instead of 5RL

not much useful in most situations, except, well, maybe this one lol

[lethal karma]

good to know, sick kit explaination by shift up

[tropic summit]

hi new, run these teams

SP arena

• nayuta anis cindy rouge vestiTU
• mmast anchorIM swha rrh drake
• auto

Rookie

• swha vestiTU rrh blanc drake

[split oyster]

ty

[acoustic raven]

How about this team guys?

[tropic summit]

attack or defense?

[acoustic raven]

Attack

[tropic summit]

ye can work

[acoustic raven]

If def good to or change scar or what?

[tropic summit]

scar is weak on def
SGs are very weak on def
T3 is fine but you'll want to split swha from there

[ancient sun]

You cooked with that 2nd team

[ancient sun]

Why does Cindy do that?

[swift mango]

Label won't be linked if she is on the right of jackal. Begin of battle skill activate from left to right.

[gaunt pulsar]

it's cursed, but hopefully enough to force them to take some units to deal with it, if it makes other 2 teams even stronger - good

[ancient sun]

Yeah but that bot spends thousands of gems. I dont think he even knows what he is doing. (Hopefully he won’t think of using Liberalio)

I was thinking that this team also cooks against Blanc set ups with SWHA. Cindy on p5 wont die to her nuke and she gets activated biscuit charge very late outlasting indom

[gaunt pulsar]

depends who they send, if it's just lib on 2rl, her burst gen is denied and she is potentially forced into 2.5rl, if there wasn't any stun on nayuta she is probably dead before she can land her nuke, there some layers to it but it's not unbreakable just potentially confuses enemy and force them to try setups thats wouldn't work idk, never did one like that myself, just theorycafted something, and didn't saw other better options in his box

[vernal galleon]

whats the best team that I can use for rookie arena? currently im just using the highest cp ones

[lunar pawn]

tvesti indom

wait do you even have blanc

and how come SWHA is neglected

[vernal galleon]

if thisbis for me then no blanc unfortunately and with SWHA, I wasnt sure of what content she was good for so havent built her yet

[ancient sun]

I wish I personally could test this team. (No Cindy yet )

But I think it’s mostly a knowledge check to see if opponent understands team composition. At the very least as you said he will suck his good units

Also what did you mean by Lib was denied burst gen? Doesn’t she perform the same in arena?

[acoustic raven]

How about this team guys for atk or def

[lunar pawn]

best water dps, 2nd best burst gen unit (behind thelm)

[gaunt pulsar]

when cindy at p5 position on def she gets attacked by SR units as you know, but because cindy has decoy mechanic it forces lib additional shots to not trigger, because they trigger on target hit not decoy hit so lib burst gen drops from 16.8 per shot to 2.8% per shot, actually not completely sure why myself, but ig exactly because she hits decoy not cindy herself, unless there wasn't any "fixes" it still should work

[ancient sun]

Oh, this is why she generates burst for RL in p1,p2. They hit her, shield and decoy. That’s actually very funny.

[gaunt pulsar]

yes

[ancient sun]

Good to know if we want to make enemies burst faster

[lunar pawn]

indeed

[gaunt pulsar]

at p1 she is skipped by enemies also because of her decoy, so enemy rl start to shoot at p2 and hit p1 p2 p3 and her decoy
normally they shoot at p1 which is p1 + p2
with cindy at p2 it's p1 + p2 + decoy
with cindy at p1 it's p1 p2 p3 + decoy if i'm not mixing it up

[ancient sun]

And with Label p1 Cindy p2 we can do more wild stuff

To lose faster…

[gaunt pulsar]

[ancient sun]

So basically Cindy at p1 is a big thums up for Vesti

Because I saw those teams and didn’t have idea

[hollow lagoon]

Who’s doing Cindy p1 in 2026

Unless u really want enemy to just burst faster

[tulip quest]

u doing cindy blanc?

[hollow lagoon]

Nop

Cindy Blanc is a thing?

[tulip quest]

for fun

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-poke-ball-ash-i-choose-you-gif-4444793

C.A is sometimes weird

people vote against u but u win 4-1 and even you tot u lose XD

[swift mango]

80% of slow Cindy is Cindy Blanc.

[tulip quest]

isn't biscuit cindy more popular tho

[swift mango]

Or you mean the positioning?

[tulip quest]

nah just memeing on that comp me n rail

if we Have tho

Nayuta B1 then Cindy p1 is Viable

[swift mango]

Blanc+Cindy+Rumani+Biscuit+Midhara

Is 80% of slow cindy

[lunar pawn]

champion arena thing

[tulip quest]

if given enuf burst gen

[lunar pawn]

I don't get it but I use it

[hollow lagoon]

I mean could do a pseudo slow Cindy prob force opponent to 1-2 rl and you play 3RL

[tulip quest]

hey if it wins you games it's not bad

[hollow lagoon]

idk does it work in theory?

[tulip quest]

yea I think

[lunar pawn]

if vs electric nuke sure

[swift mango]

Cindy p1 used to be optimal to make enemy Noah team faster so you could win.

But right now so many things counter it and Cindy nuke is real time now so you don't need enemy to be that fast

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe safer if expecting sw/biscuit dead before shot 2

[tulip quest]

Cindy p1 dangerous

[hollow lagoon]

What does Cindy nuke being real time mean?

can I nuke my Cindy into the past or future

[swift mango]

Before if you started your Cindy nuke 1 second before Noah shield ended. Noah would block all her hits. Now it's only partially blocked them

[supple plover]

When I will have bastion and resilience at lvl 10 which cubes focus on next? (Quantum? Tampering? Vigor?)

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Tempering destruction

And for PvP quantum

But really quantum only need 7

[supple plover]

In that order? (I was manly thinking about pvp)

[lunar pawn]

quantum and tempering at lvl 7 are good enough

[tulip quest]

level 11 is break point I think

it adds 2 slots + more element

[vernal galleon]

ah right and is this for pvp then or pve or both

[lunar pawn]

pvp

[tulip quest]

13 - 15 is expensive unless u wanna focus on that particular cube

[lunar pawn]

oh wait wrong guy

[supple plover]

Thanks for info! I thought 10 is good stopping point?

[lunar pawn]

SWHA is the best water dps, period (pve and pvp)

[hollow lagoon]

10 gib u 6 slots 11 is 8

[lunar pawn]

2nd burst gen is for all modes, obviously

[tulip quest]

11 is good budget wise

[lunar pawn]

she has a delayed nuke though, so take that into account if you wanna use her as main dps in arena

most use her as offburst

[hollow lagoon]

But me here with leve 9 cubes

[tulip quest]

if you wanna Mald hard in Solo raid or want more elemnt you can 13 or 15

[supple plover]

Thx!

Thx all

[vernal galleon]

aight thanks pro, and who to use alongside her?

[hollow lagoon]

Me who use quantum for solo raid

It’s not like support deals too much damage, might as well shove quantum

Can atleast be more useful by making my burst cycle faster if I’m not hitting cooldown

[tulip quest]

I just resilience them in SR

I usually have at least 1 burst generator in team

just manual it MALD IT

[hollow lagoon]

I do but I want faster

Liter and volume cdr’s kind hard to catch after fully ramping up

[tulip quest]

When endfield came my Union became quieter

[hollow lagoon]

Also I proved I suck at tap fire

[tulip quest]

you can add HelmT on liter comps

1 main carry + HelmT is also really good comp

[hollow lagoon]

I know

I can build teams some what

@tulip quest I like how I lose damage when I try to click Bmilk fast fast

I think I need to read a guide

[swift mango]

2 minutes before death announcements

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-skill-issue-gif-10197572967208545350

[lunar pawn]

let me inn

sh

ain't no way, rigged

that scarlet team had no protection vs SG

laplace died before she could shoot once lol

[hollow lagoon]

[lunar pawn]

rigged, rumani got to b1 but died before she could press it, thanks game

noise+bay didn't survive cindy nuke somehow, and noise didn't get enough feed to get her to 2RL, which should've been possible

Idk, teams behaved weird

[onyx scaffold]

@hollow lagoon deadass

[covert lintel]

siren
You get in moran way

[swift mango]

My team is pretty shit this season but my opponent is even worse. Still got me one loss though.

[restive heart]

he spent another 500 gems and still lost kekw

[rich ledge]

Oh well I'm gone as expected

[swift mango]

Would be stupid if I lose to these.

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

[lunar pawn]

wish I wasn't day 1

[swift mango]

If you are day one you should invest from day 1.

[lunar pawn]

f2p and top 3 in SPA already, that's as far as you can make me spend

[onyx scaffold]

idk if i can kill blanc pre-burst

i should have got 4 ele for bay

[lunar pawn]

try the nayuta bomber

[onyx scaffold]

it is CA. and im using this team

[covert lintel]

I'm sure people not vote for me because of this match

[lunar pawn]

ah

won 1 lost 1, another season I don't get the unlucky frame

[shell hazel]

we go top 16

[swift mango]

Having team wide 11% come in handy

[onyx scaffold]

wtf is this team

[swift mango]

Over invested Libby nuke

[onyx scaffold]

i wonder if my siren will kill herself before stunning scarlet

[lunar pawn]

tvesti meal

[covert lintel]

Why nayuta still get her RL weapon?
Every time Moran gets stunned, she changes her weapon back to original

[swift mango]

My Nayuta already burst before she got stunned.

See Cindy suddenly died

[covert lintel]

My moran too #pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

Yes, we already know 2.5rl with your Emi 21% and Siren wouldn't stun Moran in time.

[covert lintel]

What's the difference between moran and nayuta then?
Is moran changing her weapon a bug?

[swift mango]

Nayuta is 2rl B2 with 11% CS team wide. So siren won't stun her before she burst.

[tulip quest]

Milk is the most complicated Nikke to use no joke

I mean look at this I don't get how people make weird predictions

[hollow lagoon]

@swift mango @hollow lagoon @onyx scaffold i may have died this round but i put up a fight kekw

[shell hazel]

everyone just follow the leader and don't check teams

[hollow lagoon]

most people voted me and they lost

[tulip quest]

for whatever reason people hate voting for me I just dunno why I get tho that this guy is a whalee with 125 costume

[shell hazel]

I don't think anyone looks just clicks the one with the bigger number

[swift mango]

No Ele scarlet.

[hollow lagoon]

not my problem

[tulip quest]

Yea cause I hate mob voting I use my calculations first before vote you just can't trust the mobs

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Just close you eyes and vote. Can't be more simple

[tulip quest]

I can't see anything with my eyes close

[swift mango]

With this much level difference no reason I would lose.

[covert lintel]

What i mean is
moran burst->change weapon->stunned->she changed back her weapon to original immediately
Meanwhile
Nayuta burst->change weapon->stunned->she doesn't change her weapon to original

[swift mango]

It's a miracle he got this far already

[shell hazel]

time/effort vs just clicking a 50/50 lol

game doesn't even show you both teams side by side

I vote myself until I lose then I just pick whatever after that usually

[tulip quest]

True that

[swift mango]

Probably having something to do with Moran unable to take cover while using burst skill.

Stun = Take cover = Lose the skill.

[swift mango]

Just slap Vesti and Emi and LapT in a same team.

[onyx scaffold]

it is CA u know

[oak hatch]

Which side wins? Noir and soda dies early so rosa one shots vesti?

[tulip quest]

my bet is on Vesti team

[swift mango]

You could still do it.

[hexed cypress]

Yo anyone can show me ur def team so that i could take that as a reference? My team is pretty shit rn after months not updating it

[onyx scaffold]

i did and lost.

some copied and won

[oak hatch]

I was thinking vesti originally wins but this guys rosanna in previous replay one shot their 2 dps after bsoda and noir die quick

[tulip quest]

my bet still vesti

[oak hatch]

I hope so

[restive heart]

[slate falcon]

Who wins this?

[supple plover]

@gaunt pulsar Teams are ready. I wil let you know the results! Can they be used on offense too?

[restive heart]

offense teams depends on enemy def team

[oak hatch]

Which side attacker?

If sg on attack and kills sw there’s a chance it can win but hard to know if rosa one shots or not

[slate falcon]

Vesti

[oak hatch]

Actually nvm defense sg is even better there rumani their only b1 and she’s uninvested

If rumani doesn’t burst fast enough before dying then sg team wins

[gaunt pulsar]

make sure to put vigor cube on drake or it's not gonna work, arena cube tab

and yes you need adjust attack teams for enemy, t1 and t3 might work in many situations but not every

[slate falcon]

If rumani gets her bust of she wins?

[oak hatch]

Yeah rumani burst will guarantee Noah burst

[supple plover]

These teams in my group beat everyone except guys who are 49 and 273 core lvls higher respectivly

[oak hatch]

@gaunt pulsar thoughts on my next opponent matchup?

Idk if scarlet team can win this vs vesti

[gaunt pulsar]

will look, sec

[oak hatch]

thx, take ur time

[oak hatch]

I don’t think rumani can get her burst off since she’s really weak but don’t take my word for it cuz I don’t wanna ruin ur cheer

[supple plover]

@gaunt pulsar Team was beaten quickly. Could it be because Rummani is undergeared?

[slate falcon]

I’m the one with the Rumani team comp, I’m betting on the fact she burst first but if not gg

I just have a feeling Rossana will kill Rumani or SW

[oak hatch]

Rosanna can only hit vesti/helm/sw there because she targets attackers, their rosanna doesn’t look that dangerous with blue doll and 111k cp only and even if two of ur attackers get one shot as long as one dps remains and Noah bursts u can win

But I think the question there is more up to if rumani dies and it seems like she would to me, sg usually able to 2-3 shot high investment stuff if invested in

[gaunt pulsar]

t1 potentially W - sg eat fast
t2 50/50 on that one, leaning more towards win, swha aoe and RL's will ruin it for him and stacks should be eaten by blanc and rumani, i dont think cindy will trigger bisc stack, mihara should be dead before burst just from helm+swha shots, however well it goes idk, she always has problems applying stacks and if cindy lives until burst they should be dead because mihara stacks will eat bay cover
t3 soda rng, no idea
t4 fast-ish cindy, they are dead, you kill them on 2nd burst, hopefully
t5 your w, they wont win

[covert lintel]

Wth is this

[gaunt pulsar]

what's his teams?

[oak hatch]

Are u certain for round 5? Looking at his previous match his rosanna was pretty deadly

[glad meteor]

wutdahel

[oak hatch]

My link gets dispelled by rosa

[supple plover]

If taken into the account these are teams used in offense

[gaunt pulsar]

you faster, you apply noise, they feed into her also if she is linked right?

[gaunt pulsar]

well at least he is not gapper, did you put vigor on drake before he attacked?

[supple plover]

Yep some time ago

[gaunt pulsar]

👌

[supple plover]

But It couldn't register? I checked and vigor is on. Was it a fluke?

[gaunt pulsar]

it's there at least
will think of something later, need to look what he uses, usually gives an idea what was used anyway

[supple plover]

Is there any way I can be of any help?

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit

[oak hatch]

Previous replay their rosa bursted at :58 because soda and noir died so fast

Nvm it was :57

[torn obsidian]

@raven plover looks like i'm losing next match

[wild patio]

today I spent extra 300 gems in pvp

[oak hatch]

I think the fastest I can burst at is :56

[wild patio]

thats makes it total 2500 gems for this season only

[supple plover]

I had a reshuffle this season where I got a gentleman who spent 3200 gems hittiing me this season

[slate falcon]

So all my hopes is on if Rumani burst or not

[lethal karma]

What am i seeing

[oak hatch]

Yeah possibly because u need protection against nayuta burst and to do so rumani and Noah needs to burst

Unless ur opponent is actually attacker that would give u a better chance

[slate falcon]

How do I know who’s the attacker?

[oak hatch]

Show the ca screen against ur opponent

[worldly osprey]

sorry i was a bit busy yesterday so i didn’t check discord. i probably let you down

[oak hatch]

The one on left is attacker on right is defender

[slate falcon]

This my first CA after just getting through 160 wall idk what I’m looking at.

[oak hatch]

Oops I forgot it’s top 16 now, so top name would be attacker and bottom would be defender

[slate falcon]

So now my chances of winning are around like 35%/40%?

By betting on Rumani burst

[oak hatch]

Check his previous replay, how fast does his sg kill opponent nikkes, that should give u an idea how fast ur rumani dead, especially since she’s uninvested in

[slate falcon]

It’s not looking good tbh

[oak hatch]

After ur rumani dead there’s no way u can stop his nayuta especially after rosa dealt a big chunk of damage already

[oak hatch]

Maybe u have a chance to win still, how does the other matchups look?

[slate falcon]

Well I got top 16 in my first CA not bad if I do say so myself

[slate falcon]

Kills within 3-5 sec

[oak hatch]

Yeah top 16 is very nice

[oak hatch]

I think ur rumani is dead within 2 seconds honestly, this is usually what happens when p5 unprotected vs defense sg

[onyx scaffold]

why is it always like this

[gaunt pulsar]

looked into nikketop, if you lucky and kill only noir and not soda on like 2nd vesti rocket you should be fine, as your bay will trigger before his rosa burst, if you kill 2 early then his rosa should still apply after your noise, will it save your vesti? idk you have backup b3 and your bay will eat nayuta burst regardless

[oak hatch]

My backup b3 is so weak but yeah I hope it works out, rare case where weaker investment might pay off

If I win that match I’m certain it’s a W for me but hard to say for now

Maybe the scar match also wins through rng

[gaunt pulsar]

even invested sometimes doesn't deal shit it seems and un-invested holds, so hard to tell with ca sometimes

[ancient sun]

I think the problem is that this guy has invested Rosanna so the conventional teams with Blanc are free win for him. He struggled with Jackal Blanc Biscuit (he spent at least 10 attempts before cracking the whole comp)

[oak hatch]

Yeah that’s true, anyway thx for the analysis

[gaunt pulsar]

gonna have migraine today with so much brain usage
but yes, i've looked into what his defense teams, pretty sure he uses pretty much the same for attack, and it's clear where it's failed, just cant overthink everything again rn

[ancient sun]

No worries bro. You’ve already done so much

I learned so much from your comps

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-spn-dean-dean-winchester-sam-gif-16140336

[covert lintel]

Even nozomu won 5 even though he has disadvantage

[torn obsidian]

i don't even know how this matchup is so favored statistically for noise noah but i'll prob lose this

[twilit bay]

Why does Label get targeted by Helm here?

[torn obsidian]

read her kit bwo

she has self atk buff

[twilit bay]

Oh, I didn't realize that it was that strong

[covert lintel]

Jackal link proc before label self atk proc so she has the highest atk in the team while she doesn't get any link to jackal.
It's one of trick

[pure moss]

I won against Kuna

But I'm facing Cryo, previous champ

[swift mango]

it's fine. Come to chat whenever you have free time.

This guy's teams are also meh but my shit teams might lose today.

[swift mango]

My C3 is about to beat 3 former champs in a round.

Maybe it's finally his run

Too bad he won't keep the streak because his opponent in top 8 can't be a former champ. But Top 4 and final could still be.

[strong hull]

Blood kun

[swift mango]

Thien-kun

The fight has been pierce for the lower rank this season. But I'm still safe for now. I need the new campaign soon so I can open my boxes

Top 3 to 12 are constantly changing and I'm basically same synch as top 3 to 10

[swift mango]

How are you?

[strong hull]

Chilling atp, reading manga etc

[swift mango]

mangapark (and other like fakk-batoto) and Comick are dead, I forgot to transfer my 2000 bookmarks to other website now I'm left with like 200.

[swift mango]

now go to sleep

[strong hull]

🫳

[swift mango]

becuase she has highest attack. She isn't linked because she ws at the back of Jackal in his formation so her atk buff skill activated after Jackal link skill.

[swift mango]

how about u?

[swift mango]

wdym you may actually win 1-2-3-4 this match up. In 5, you could win too so long as your siren stun his scarlet (33+ ammo)

[onyx scaffold]

this noir is SR15

[long chasm]

How to counter?

[onyx scaffold]

0 damage

[onyx scaffold]

go max dmg -. -

[marble saddle]

would vesti emi be a potential solution to this?

[long chasm]

Lose

Maybe change biscuit to ada for more buff

Since biscuit is useless here

[marble saddle]

honestly i see moran i think of testi

[plain kayak]

Pls teach me

[onyx scaffold]

i needed biscuit to keep blanc alive 🤔

[pure moss]

I've been giving out my comps to random people

[vernal galleon]

whats the best team that I can use for rookie arena? currently im just using the highest cp ones someone before mentioned the new snow white but idk who else to use

[north brook]

would prob need vesti to break moran, problem is she lives past the indom

[onyx scaffold]

yeah maybe vesti better. i was worried that vesti could get killed by snow pre-burst

[onyx scaffold]

probably not both because they will nerf your cp hard

[vernal galleon]

just unlocked clay and velvet as well if any of those are useful

[hollow lagoon]

try slow cindy

the blanc version

[gaunt pulsar]

do all think new treasures will be during collab on 12th or later?

[placid bloom]

surely they will delay for 2 more week to make you guess whether water OC with 2 SR is easier or with 2 AR

[glad meteor]

Jackal vesti blanc ada laplaceT

Easier to win if you can trigger biscuit s2 on p1/2 before noah triggers.

Your vesti needs to be jackal linked and lowest hp

[glad meteor]

Prob next patch I’m thinking

Before moranT starts to join CA

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[gaunt pulsar]

[ancient sun]

I finally got it

[swift mango]

Collab on 12th?

Maybe the first Collab I skip

[ancient sun]

I assumed treasures are being released this week…

[glad meteor]

3 dead weeks coming

[tropic summit]

just find the collab units in the first 10 rolls

[lunar pawn]

next season I make it to top 16

[glad meteor]

Rail going to c7

[tropic summit]

in which parallel universe

[glad meteor]

So there is a universe

where you wheel

Time to fail to sr 15 priv again

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

The one where you have 300k gem and 3000 tickets

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/money-rich-20

[warm monolith]

Sup rail

I need new defs teams

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-its-peak-cry-one-piece-one-piece-peak-its-peak-gif-3269189837023001972

[tropic summit]

build them then

[warm monolith]

Dont know how to and youre the expert

[tropic summit]

there are many experts in this channel

[warm monolith]

Im your student?

[tropic summit]

[gaunt pulsar]

reminds me of my cp earlier sheep among wolves situation

[glad meteor]

Sensei rail

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ehehe-shy-gif-25842019

[tropic summit]

i kinda already know the only thing he can run anyway

[glad meteor]

Now we wait

[tropic summit]

centi only 1 dupe? what profanity is this

[glad meteor]

You tell me. My pvp combat power is abysmal

Game doesn’t want to give me dupes on meta

[warm monolith]

What can i do, i have dupes but no builds¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[tropic summit]

you can start by posting your box

[warm monolith]

Also quickly can you do this? I looked back to my gallery and hes just changing his nikkes positions

[warm monolith]

One sec kind sir

Here https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMjAwMzQ2ODI4NTA2MTI4NDEzOA%3D%3D

[tropic summit]

why'd he remove ada, the only thing that was giving you trouble

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doboz-szia-integet-zonad-rajz-gif-16269320

[warm monolith]

I imagine blood is rails lost long twin

Also the two ppl in this discord i dont understand what their profile picture is

[tropic summit]

T1 and T3 must not be in deficit, T2 throwaway

[warm monolith]

Thanks, ill check it now

[leaden canyon]

I dont remember if thats the team we used for round 3

[warm monolith]

Idk how but t1 is in about 20k deficit. T3 safe tho

Maybe i can use rosa against t2?

[warm monolith]

Thank you

[tropic summit]

replace RH with RRH and see if you're still in deficit

you need 947k

[warm monolith]

About 10k more but not enough sadly

Oh wait sorry

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

20k more*

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit last rite casually throws her sword away in the menu

[warm monolith]

[leaden canyon]

hope this works lol

[tropic summit]

[warm monolith]

Im running it with rrh?

[tropic summit]

you already did before

[warm monolith]

Oke, lemme cook in t2

[tropic summit]

leave T2 as is, just focus on T1 and T3 being out of deficit

[warm monolith]

Yeah, because he changed his nikkes places i thought it may be not correct to go with the previous team so i reached out

[tropic summit]

it's the same damn archetype, moran bay lib

[warm monolith]

You know i dont know much about pvp, so i wanted to sure about it

[shell hazel]

the evolving rookie teams, some are finally adding snow white

[tropic summit]

you don't evne need to know pvp it's like looking at pasta and it's the same sauce

[glad meteor]

Look at all those limit breaks rail

[warm monolith]

@tropic summit My t2 worked:D

[tropic summit]

one day we're gonna steal them

[shell hazel]

and whose fault is that!?

[ancient sun]

I guess knowledge matters! For some reason no one in my bracket attempted to beat this guy. This is how I sniped him

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[warm monolith]

Rail, t3 lost cuz i didnt check the link and it gave buff to tlap but t2 won

[warm monolith]

You can never be too sure, thats why i want to get someones opinion always

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/head-ache-5

[shell hazel]

baby commanders 😄

👶

[glad meteor]

🐥

[warm monolith]

Look at the bright side,my hand made team won:D, thank you for your helps today too btw. Have a good night

[gaunt pulsar]

nice 07th expansion bgm on bg

[high stream]

Completely done myself @tropic summit
I went from a 3x loss to a full sweep

[leaden canyon]

I figured it out

[ancient sun]

I am playing Umineko chapter 5. I was kinda inspired

[tidal lichen]

[gaunt pulsar]

i benched it like 10y ago if not more, needed a break from constant reading, and never pick up again, at start of ch6 or 7 i think

probably need to start all over again if i plan to restart

[ancient sun]

Damn starting over again would be tough. Even I as seasoned vn reader find Umineko’s sheer volume challenging

At least Hugurashi was more accessible

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/made-by-nico-rika-and-satoko-higurashi-when-they-cry-when-they-cry-higurashi-gif-18233009177564085809

[onyx scaffold]

Moran worth c7 with silver mileages?

[shell hazel]

no details are out not sure how you expect anyone to answer that yet lol

[gaunt pulsar]

even at her current state i would say yes

what else there to get really, besides noah

[shell hazel]

you can't silver mileage moran atm

[gaunt pulsar]

true, but i live in a world where i believe she is

[shell hazel]

so my answer remains the same wait for treasure details

trying to answer that now be like

https://tenor.com/view/fortune-teller-crystall-ball-psychic-clairvoyant-gif-7196998362521930336

[ancient sun]

https://tenor.com/view/giga-chad-gigachad-big-gif-21053844

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit I died in CA

[shell hazel]

you died so @cunning crown could live

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I'm up against whale-kun account buyer next

[cunning crown]

[hollow lagoon]

I wonder if velvet is worth rolling

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

this is the guy who bought the whale account with basically everyone max core

[hollow lagoon]

Imma do a tower

Okie

[rustic sandal]

Woke up to DIA 1. I'm crying

[tropic summit]

just like jesus, you'll return, stronger than before

[hollow lagoon]

I have the friendship group to carry my legacy for ard

[tropic summit]

good, next time then you won't need my help, you can cook your own

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith fix your link here with SWHA and drakeT or rotate laplaceT around before you do the same mistake as your attack team

[warm monolith]

You always do that

[warm monolith]

Okay, will do

[hardy bison]

ugggh SP Arena has been keeping me busy, any suggestions? https://prnt.sc/bk0iqdKrBBUq https://prnt.sc/l6d8g5LdZmHL https://prnt.sc/OkhI0-C2Z6tr

[tropic summit]

is this defense or attack

[hardy bison]

I'm attacking

[tropic summit]

looks good as long as you using them in the right counter

although SWHA has better DPS than s.anis, so you might want to rotate the 2 around

[hardy bison]

oh sorry, this isn't my team

[rustic sandal]

This is gonna be me next reshuffle... hopefully...

I want my second coming.

No more getting contested.

[tropic summit]

if you're attacking them, you can use these (you're on the left)