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thou i prob could go without blanc tbh
don't complicate your life
noise noah helmt laplace rumani
also blanc here gets stunned, see ya to your indom
you see siren, you want 2RL B1 in p1 or a 11%CS team wide B2
she does? but i thought so long as this said blanc before stun i was ok.
or do you mean their CS?
bro how are you reading this graph
uhhh.....
also you don't need blanc in p1 here
you've jackal link
and you still bursting with jackal anyway
jackal blanc helmt biscuit swha would achieve better results:
- you get feed in p1
- you still invulnerable anyway cuz jackal is a defender
- you're B1 in p1
with blanc in p1, you don't get feed and you're on a B2
yeah but i figured so long as helmt took out 2 of their linked id be ok
assuming scarlet is their indom and she bursts, you'll nuke link and wipe their entire team, but so will they, you've no anti nuke.
Scarlet vs helmt is a bad indom duel, you've way less fire rate
how and why did you even think this team would be a good choice
the best matchup against indom scarlet is a team that kites her, not duels her with lower fire rate indom
in your case don't run noah in p1 because siren is present, so you put a noise in p1
But probably his swha will get the indom
rest of the thing works the same, helmt bursts, you're safely behind noah, you nuke link and you lifesteal her till she dies
ye likely helmt has more hp than swha via treasure and cores
ok. i was more interested in fighting the label team he made this morning but hes already changed so ill stop with the dangerous mindset
fight it why not? what scares you of label?
that unit is only good for elec code on 2RL
changed it already
He might read this channel
ik for a fact hes not in discord 
hes not like the other guy i had to deal with in SPA
remember him @tropic summit ?
should be thankful to him, got yourself some training
best wingman
i never said i was scared i just wanted to know if i could use rossana now that hes changed his rapunzel for label
answer was i could
by the time i reached home that team was gone so i was kinda sadge
I just post label match above
Not scary at all
@tropic summit wait a min... you told me not to use noah on pos 1-2 vs siren since my noah doesn't have enough CS
you already forgot how siren p1 p2 works compared to siren p3 p4 p5 eh
siren p3-p4-p5 can only shoot p1
siren p1-p2 can be taunted, thus can stun noah if you're not on noise taunt priority or 11%CS team wide
in your case it's a p3, noah p2 is siren immune
is only testi able to atk p1 2 and 3?

all weapon classes, minus SG/SRS, default to shoot p1
RLs can splash to p2
SGs will shoot p5 when they defend
SRs will shoot p5 when you attack
emilia and vestiTU can hit up to p3
ik RL have splash dmg 1-2 spots but i forgot it that was only for testi who could hit 3
wait even emillia can atk up to 3 postions?

also dont SR atk pos5?
so the defending SR will still shoot P1..... 
aye
welp at least i asked instead of just jumping 100%
means i still can think
just not the correct things 
remember that snipers are good for misindom if they don't use jackal
@tropic summit i got some bad news now
im in the penalty range now
still rip it?
yeah i figured
you don't run in deficit against indom scarlet without noah + biscuit
if im adding biscuit does that mean i need to kick laplace?
im pretty sure rumani is needed for b1 since noise barely managed 1-2 secs before she got melted
removed laplace for biscuit
flex spot to hit 2RL and keep you out of deficit
must not feed
hint: SWHA, vestiTU, emilia, laplaceT, xmaiden, nihilister
ive put laplace instead of rumani but i have concerns if my noise will be able to live to burst
tempering is your best friend
or put someone to sacc in p1
sigh..... i need to remember to lvl my temper to lvl 7 min
ive done some adjustments now

done.
What is the best way to cp pad? Rolling on gears? Which stats give u the best cp % wise?
max your skills
max your dolls
max your OL stats.
try getting black lines,
and if you can, max your cores
skills give u like 200points ish? seems negligible was considering them
when your opponent is higher cp than you, you have to use whatever means you have available
getting Black OL stats is harder than max coring an available unit
yeah im looking for the formula for ol stats since different ones give different amounts
prob check #questions then. i dont think any math crafter are here now
Is this excel? I want it
Where can i get that
simple excel formula
Thanks to learning here that Siren P2 stuns noah, I managed to get top 64 this CA 
Game mode is so unintuitive but lurking here is big help
good, you built a nice wall
and i made him pay for it 
you still want it?
why can i hear this image? 
Quick question. What team can I use against this?
noah biscuit helmt rosanna vestiTU
noah biscuit helmt siren SWHA
Thank you! I'll give those a try.
Edit: The second team worked like a charm 

I realized that with a sufficiently fast enough burst speed, the Blanc-SWHA team didn't really need Jackal, freeing Jackal up to be used with Trina-Scarlet. Scarlet still isn't an ideal B3 with Label being a hard counter now, but there's not really any other viable B3 options atm so just have to wait till the next major meta unit comes around (c...
any suggestions for my SPA defense? hasn't changed since siren was released last year.
don't have dupes of new units released - but would have everything except label
scarlet and cindy both need to go
post your box to update them, s.anis is also way out of meta
oh it's changed that much okay
on defense ye
i got vesti from blue tickets late which is why she's at the bottom - otherwise it's been a pve box for the last year
SP arena
- nayuta centi helmt rh emilia
- jackal ein blanc trina xmaiden
- moran noah biscuit swha cindy
Notes
- build vestiTU as priority, she'll fit in indom team instead of ein
- can still improve utilities a bit (finish SR15 on noah, noise, jackal), afterward trina and centi
PVP GODS
πππ
PLEASE HELP ME WITH A HARD COUNTER TO THESE TEAMS!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE!! PRAISE BE TO PVP GODS!!!
πππ
thnks will give this a go - what's cindi contributing in t3? or just to pad?
run these, you're on the left
pad and spare B3 if they run rosanna to kill SWHA
afk'd pretty much as well but seeing some activity on the new units recently
yeah


π π π
PRAISE BE PVP GOD
π π π 
THANK YOU SO MUCH BRO!! YOU THE BEST

Could someone cook up some teams so i can try to attack this person.
Heres my blabla: https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjkyNjgwODYzODgyMDQxOTAzOQ%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNjkyNjgwODYzODgyMDQxOTAzOQ%3D%3D

I'm getting double teamed in Arena.
you're on the left
cubes
T1
rumani tempering
noah any
vestiTU tempering
ada any
noise vigor
T3
swha tempering
blanc vigor
rh any
centi quantum
jackal quantum
Team 3 did win though
CP issue ?
oh he's on noah taunt priority
just need to fix positioning then
noise rumani noah vestiTU ada
and no you're not in deficit dw
CP needed is 1532k, you're above
@tropic summit
Thank you
this time he did rember to put a B2
yeah no problem, it's unusual for ppl at your synchro to still run noah taunt priority, wasn't expecting it or we'd get him at first try 
yup
Good day, PvP Gods. Im struggling rn, I'm a casual player and trying to improve my rank in PvP for gems. Any SP Arena def teams you can advice me? Here's my blabla. 
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjI0MDI3NDUyMjUzOTI4MjY0Mg%3D%3D&type=normal
your blabla is set to private, can't see
Oh... uh, ill fix that. One sec
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjI0MDI3NDUyMjUzOTI4MjY0Mg%3D%3D ok, let's try again.
guessing I just go after round 2 and 3? unsure what to do about round 3 though if not using biscuit against it
T2 is throwaway, T3 will be popcorn
T1 is vestiTU sore back
oh its fine if rosanna gets taunted by noah?
oh you've a good point
put linked unit in p2 and rosanna in p3
nayuta helmt ros jackal emilia
what matters is that we kill both vestitu and swha, RH can then get stuck on shooting p1 while you kill her
(im assuming helm is linked but check if emi is linked instead)
you can swap around swha with helmt if you need to mess with links
honestly round 2 and round 1 would be probably easier, but may aswell challange yourself
could also slow cindy T3 instead, he's so kindly giving you plenty of dmg in p1 and p2 to pop invulnerability
but teams above are curious let's see
guess I can just do swha instead of emilia
ye should contribute enough dmg to get vesti low hp for 1hitko, worst case scenario nayuta finishes her off
Didn't even mean to snipe my rivals spot, was just doing UR and attacked him later than usual. Went online after reset and still had C2 
were you in deficit in T3?
no
yeah thats why I thought round 2 and 3 would have to be it
maybe with ada you could mitigate it further, but you'll be short on time because you've p1 and p5 eating biscuit stacks
check links in T3, expecting vesti and rosanna linked
could reduce strain on link with unlinked unit in p3
Vesti not linked
nayuta vestiTU helmT ros jackal
your helm has more atk than vesti? what in the world
well core 7
But yeah I need to roll 1 attack line higher on my vesti because its 7
emilia instead of helm?
yea that would work
but you're too slow then
ah
gonna need to indom this
I would like to interject here that my Helm has more Atk than any of my other units 
I wonder if she will be linked if I remove helm cube
fix links, get vesti indommed, tempering usual stuff
you can run blanc p3 if you know she lives against vestiTU and SWHA pokes
lap will have to be emilia
else vesti doesn't get linked
vesti and helm will be linked
Oh great. Everyone's being active now. I went from 1 contender to 3.
I'm not gonna last very long.
@tropic summit thought I recorded it but I didn't, lib burst did not kill 2 and vesti died in 3 before blanc
of you had crown on it
I still had rumani
round 3 still lost though
you need heavy buffing to wipe, it's tons of deficit
also he's about to hit next CP gap
i think you'll have to take a break
died pre indom? if you're taking too much dmg you need biscuit, but then you can't win other teams, so you're locked

he finally realized he can cheat against you with DR on top of deficit, then just needs to gap one team and commit to a 3rd 
it will also get worse with moran treasure so don't worry
unless moran treasure is a brick re-enter b1 kek
hopefully centi is not a brick re-enter b2 as well
would they really fk up on the most used units in pvp and especially CA?
viper
i dunno if they've the balls
viper wasn't meant for pvp
but viper is hot
feel like pve π§± rn as i OL bisc gear 
Thx blabla
sh*t my whale is going through mental crisis

@vapid lake is the translation above on point? 
@tropic summit after sacrificing a week of rocks to @umbral belfry
that's cute 
Seems like I found my chinese mirror, minus the whale part 
man idk about ROCKS I became a mom today
I'm not safe anymore.

can i pet it? ||not the cat||

@glad meteor very close to hime vtuber face reveal

i'm not the father 
@tropic summit 's paying child support
@tropic summit
you're the one with money, i live under a bridge
Yeah but u own the bridge so just sell bridge and get billions
dayum blanc value against deficit can still do something 
I'm cooked gng.
well done good sir
he gave up
@umbral belfry is a cat person

if only... 
Kitty gang!
My cousin had 2 cat
300 gems per day for 3000 is not worth it gng. I give up.
SO CUTE 
@leaden canyon 
Suddenly, 2000 gems doesn't seem so bad
Did u name the cat yet @umbral belfry
not yet, names are hard 
Chaos or Mayhem
I have a little 1 month old kitten named Darkseid.
My cat is Freya 
Lool helm barley alive
I'd name her Annie. Short for Annihilator.
ultra clutch
I was thinking if I was old enuff Iβll get 2 cats Iβll name 1 Chaos the other Mayhem
Name her Liberalio
keep her away from that hell 

just name her Nero then at that point
It's a daily reminder of your failures.
Name her Cookie
I'm also surprised that t3 won
nayuta stonks
Queen Whiskers
I was actually trying to kill his hood before burst with tripple SR on attack
ugly name
gz

@umbral belfry name the cat Nessa
And make @lone sequoia pay cat support in rocks

what rocks? ask SU
could I ask for some help with this pls pls
my attempt was pretty bad

indom swha is better than indom vesti, you can just swap dps or use vesti against scar team... she probably kill scar~lib
also, siren doesn't work against b1 p1 in a 2RL comp
you're so nice to me, thank youuu
do you have bay? that help a lot against nuke comps
thank me if it works
also forgot to swap biscuit in T1 sec

@forest zodiac
oki
time for nayuta/rosanna/vesti-SG or something T2
then they've no more B2 
bye bye noah and trina
probably moran is the last unit alive
ye
as long as vesti lives she'll finish her and nayuta buying 9s
i can see that team workin'
scar has self inflicted dmg, but ye never a bad idea to be safe

victory, thanks
i usually send slow rumani nayuta bisc to glass cannon scarlet teams
saves so many units
name it Rosy
rapu-rosy-(ther was one with "k") what is the meaning of the new?
im bayless 
rosy my cat's godfather 
one day, probably next event you will get bay and her treasure

something like rosy but in japanese
Rosy is a cat
i read the maid anime/manga, it feels a bit bland
oh, i just watch the anime and to me its nice
now i will watch the ghost thing
Can I get another look at this? I've lost 2 attempts already myself. Both were really close.
noah is in a bad spot there for starters
Gotcha
your siren in T3 is also kinda useless
I tried to cp pad with some backup
I was told this team in the past, as a decent big cp team
So I tried to just flex it as potential sacrifice
nah it doesn't, opponent needs 490ishk against that, they're 523k
sent you a dm
I see
only 1 b1, if you kill noise they have no chain
you've 2 approaches here
tyvm, let me try
the second approach is as nesso mentioned, focus down noise with an SG team
if the above fails we can go for T3 instead of T2
Gotcha.
Also, I have saved all your prior advice and team suggestions in a note
But it seems, when I try to like mix and match them myeslf to come up with good counters, I still fail most of the time
Still not good enough
comes with experience, it's good that you trying on your own and then asking for advise
that's how you slowly improve 
I guess. It just doesnt seem to really come natural. I'm still very impressed how u can take one look and build a team instantly
As if u just 'know' from one glance. I wish I could do that
Would save me a lot of time.
most pvpers here have months if not years of experience, you'll do it too later on don't worry 
Can i really not build something capable against his third team here?
My indom still unused. So are Scarlet and Trina. What would be my best shot against his third?
T3 is a direct counter to scarlet
I see
Cindy, I guess. Or SBS
indom scarlet here could still be a threat
gonna have to do the indom via rapunzel although
To get the indom through
noah is in p2 and enemy has noise, likely noise taunt priority
that makes their team essentially siren immune
Ah, right. The thing that I did before to counter siren stun
My rapunzel is trash
My strongest pvp nikke are like 120k .. so she is a big cp cut
commit to 2 teams here imo, not enough tools to deal with 3
kk
Second team still lost, this was the same for me. My first team won, but 2 and 3 lost π
did you record or can you describe what went down? (T2)
did your noise die
on t1
either way can commit to T3 i guess, bsoda and lappy gonna eat their noise
have you considered running Jackal/Liberalio/SnowHA/Blanc/Siren against Team 3? or some iron units to focus on noise to kill her before burst
run this tomorrow or next time
T3 for some reason looks easier than team 2
if noise was alive:
noise noah lib helm centi
jackal swha blanc siren rh/rrh/anything with low gen
rumani cindy nayuta bisc any low gen flex
Who are you guys putting quantum on? Is it overkill to put it on centi/rumani since they already generate a lot of burst?
quatum always go for the top gen units
Case by case basis
when its needed
A lot of times quantum makes no difference
I have my quantums on helm/SWHA/Vesti atm, just about to unlock my 4th slot
blue doll, trust

Blue AR. Tove or Label?
helm is one of the worst unit's to put it on because her base gen is bad, her high burst gen comes from flat %%% from skill 1, and you not increasing it higher with quantum
Thrust
its what i pray for every time i get that box at 200
I reroll dispatch when i see that

So...
@tropic summit we have mr brick
keep it, i don't see any unit really worth it

holy f @glad meteor 
Tove only 1 LB unfortunately.
Rosy only has 2 dolls

where did he even use all of them on 
Have u done sr museum
Eunwha tactical
just for the standar kits
@rich quail lurker

Theoretically, I stay at CH3 for 18 hours a day, what Rank would I be?
math it out
just to clarify this applies to all %s or just charge speed? the rounding
@glad meteor suffering here for weeks
5, 6, and 8 are on my ass now. I hate it.
Who dis sw?
Watch me work my magic...
10 Blue for Phase 15.
eunwha tactical
new snow already sr15


Good question
iirc ammo also works funny, can't say about things like attack
fixed**

I'm gonna get attacked in about 2 hours and have to spend gems again to keep my rank...
I'm so tired. I should probably just let it happen.
I will mind her


indeed
nah, just pvp things
Rosy sr15 everything CA
I forgot, sorry. Let me do it again and record.
nono it's fine
the thing
How did you get HP numbers?

Is this CA exclusive?
this is where Xsoline comes from
this is probably the safest approach, as you'll be behind invulnerability
and attacking

I don't usually see those HP %.
adn defending also
Rookie sp have different buttons for stats
keripo said this team is weak 
Might be a CA thing. They're the ones extra enough to add chibi defeat animations.
Rookie is bottom left
SP click the rounds
thats still CA no? 
mostly against nayuta in the team, or strong noah biscuit
@umbral crown
yes

without scarlet

well that wouldn't be the surprising part 

What would be a low gen flex? I dont have all these memorized yet. Someone shared a list a few days ago
idk even alice works
im bakc doing some bizzness
usually mihara or siren sit there
ty
@shell hazel look at this group
you wanna be 5RL with slow cindy
rename the group from group 02 to "rosy & chinnits"
Holy sh*t .. it was a sweep. But it still seemed so incredibly close in Team 2 and 3
Was it close/lucky? Or was this expected? I was biting my teeth with the 2 SWHA indom duel, lol.
expected
Really? Damn.
T3 was intended, T2 was popcorn worth 
I would have not guessed those teams.
Nor that Team 3 can even be won with my roster
it can, it's weak to 1hitko nukes that bypass biscuit
Only one I managed to beat myself was their Team 1
thats a good thing
its important you start doing your own cooks and if anything ask for help here
it's spreading 
thats how you get experience
spreading??

Rosy propaganda is real 
2026 is to Trust the Process
Trust the process...
Loses with a 4 RL team despite having big CP diff.
Railtracer singlehandedly keeping me in the top 10 in my bracket for now.
But hey, at least that means that my roster can actually compete in top 10. So at least I'm investing into my pvp teams correctly.
what comes after trusting the process? 
oh you've to thank @tidal lichen for this one, i did nothing 
Thrust in who
Indeed, that is the question
True, that one was his win, lol.
In you

in the process
I'm gonna rail that tracer

even in your bio 

so that's who you gonna t||h||rust into 

she is also there, people need to trust

Is Viper good?
My current target is to get all my SSS, SS and S tier Nikke to equal footing in PvP
I dont wanna worry for A tier yet .. I assumed A tier means highly situational or niche, or like a specific counter that can be really strong
Nah
I essentially favorited the entire Prydwen PvP tierlist and started building them all up 
Nayu viper vesti rosa laplap
you can forget nero for now 
don't the cat
She was low prior for S anyway. But I assumed that S still meanns they can be situational counters
Nekomimis
she was part of the meta for a while but now meta evolved and snow helm making her die before she burst
my nero tanked a nayuta lib today 
Like Siren for example .. she is only S tier, but I feel like Siren builds a lot of counters that just work really well.
To me it seems she is higher than S .. but I'm not gonna argue pvp tierlists with my current pvp skill lol.
a unit that forced ppl to not use B3 or B2 in p1 is probably worth a tad more than S 
but you should take those tierlists with a grain of salt, some units are SSS on attack and C on defense
See! I had a feeling .. lol.
Nero has 99.99% dr by then. The rest of the team should be wiped though 
me not using Ein P1 in CA anymore uwu
you're blending in nicely with asia 
99,999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
Well, my idea was .. if I have all these built, I can probably counter 99% of teams. Or would u suggest anyone else outside of these?
rosy is clearly cute japanese grill
thats what me thinks
had to be the cute japanese grill from the bracket
mayhaps

the cat stronk
thatβs gotta be a weak lib right 
problem with tier list is that one thing is not equal to another
5b damage when reduced down to 99% probably is not enough anymore 
my libe would not lose to one shot
you'd basically never need to build mana, noir, reiT, s.anis etc
Helm survived at least
oh good point maybe weak libbo 
Well .. i tried to treat it more like a list of essential pvp Nikke to build to get a good pvp roster going that can consistently compete in top 10
there is only 15 slots for SPA team, you don't need to dig that deep down the list if you have the stuff on top
did anyone make 3 pvp teams with pve-only units?
meta is evolving, feel free to also ask here for units, some are not used much anymore in pvp
the stuff on the bottom is there for people that don't have the stuff on top
Also .. maybe CA in the very, very far future. Id like to try at least, maybe reach top 64 .. start building early. And I see some very unique nikke in CA
who you need for top 10:
core
- swha, vestiTU, jackal, blanc, biscuit, noah, noise, cindy, nayuta, helmt
situational
- lib, rosanna, moran, rapunzel, bayT
batteries/situational
- trina, rumani, centi, laplaceT, emilia, xmaiden
literally u
Another thing added to my notes
Ein 

bias or not
not bias, she good
those that are core in bed do not count my good sir
MoranT solo Ein 
I mean sure but a lot of the chars you use in CA you just straight up don't use in SPA
how about no blanc

I want to see your Ein vs MoranT 

what if MoranT but not well invested
Ada buff made her pretty strong. Usually moran/noise Noah is enough 
in CA yuo find lot of interesting things
I see .. so u'd specifically build Nikke for CA only?
put hyperbuffed ein against moran, maybe she's a chance
because everyone sync to 400
Oh, intersting.
some people do
I am almost Sync 400 .. but I assume u need a lot more than that to compete in CA

i wanna try ein but cannot afford blanc

where you using blanc?
slow cindy?
ada has 15 cs, initial rolls did the thing
or mirandad ada
i see, that team is strong
well you actually need ada for MC
so i guess you're still going in the right direction
wew le crits
dp but your enough manage to get indom?
101010 ada not one tapping bisc is kinda sad
2RL
i ran that team but when i was against vesti i was always missindom to biscuit p3
because your snow is too strong. mine is weak ass. she will take indom
or anis -. -
i can use centi instead of anis to make the indom more stable
but people use siren a lot lately
my biscuit needs cs ig
yes, your rl needs 11% or so to avoid siren in 2rl team
It should
hows my pvp team? I could replace drake for anis for 2RL instead of 2.5RL. second and third team all 2RL.
Blanc counters hard dr
Looks fine but in team 1 you would need to ajust it to Jackal/Vesti/Drake/Blanc/Rumani
Indeed
BayTreasure in t3 may be better
im confused how my opponent got 5 man stun
Rapu stunned
Cuz she bursted when her hp was less than 20%
dear lord. 3 years and shes never done that LOL
is there a reason? so vesti can get the indom?
Yeah
Thats the plan and if you face vesti, blanc between P1-P3 will die fast
Cp deficit is a thing but blanc counters moran burst and nero damage reduction

Thats not enough still to live long , most of the time she will die fast

I tell from experience
I ran nero team for a long time and when i was against blanc was a sure lose
From S9 CA


I can confirm t2 doesn't win anymore 
It needs double sg for it to win that
the lib change messed it up
slow cindy with blanc might win against that with deficit
doubt vesti kills that moran even with ada
I have killed that moran before but with nero there its kinda too beefy
funny enough that team was easier to kill when it had noah
Who are these guys??? Leave me alone 
He is cooking
I think he's gone and overcooked
what are you running
Every rotation I always get one of these guys...hurts my gems man...
Quaker

jack swha blanc bisc ada
rumani scarlet trina centi siren
moran noah vesti helm lib
thats how i'd hit u 
He's been at it for an hour now
I'm kinda at the point of just letting him have it. Waste of my time
Would be nice to just know what his mindset is for doing this lmao
Maybe he wanted ca i guess. Since youβre 4th place
Hmm I guess so huh
he wanted to live the dream
I wish I can actually win.

surely science

Definitely developed time traveling by now
is 2 att 2 elem enough for vesti in pvp?
just built it today and want to make sure if i need more investment
@tropic summit 
can this nuke my sr15 snow white?

non lethal assuming she's full HP
lethal begins at 20-40% ele 40% atk
crit is a different story, but that's RNG
also she'll definitely survive if you've a B1 moran/noise
Max core kinda dangerous

Rosa conceal could be removed too
Unless ros jackal linked
shield diffed, all according to keikaku 4D chess
no you cooked 100% planned this
you foresaw it 
NICE
ye this is good, she'll resist rosanna
keep in mind p3 can still be lowered in HP via emilia/vestiTU, but at that point you can't do much more
ha~ smoked the bay vesti with lib juice splash
do that against a bay + biscuit 

Hi, i have some time playing the game but never knowed about the details, so in arena i only put the strongedt characterd and not good teams, if i explain, can someone give me advice of good teams for attack and deffend pls?
professional like rail is sitting on the bench from qualifiers tho 
ill join you on bench soon nuff
comfy bench, fitting for my shooting range main career
complementry velvet pillow yes
SP Defense
Nayuta/Centi/HelmT/Red Hood/Drake
Jackal/VestiTactical/BayT/X.Maiden/Noir
Rapunzel/Rumani/Cinderella/SnowHA/Noah
attack teams depends of what you are facing, feel free to ask here if anything, people will help. just need to show the teams you are fighitng to have an idea of what you can use

i was trusting the process you would do it
You win
I had almost same matchup but without RH against him. I lost because I didn't have any for 2nd phase burst.
if his units lives enough for 2nd burst then its a win
You have RH and RH will use 1,2,3 burst at the 2nd phase burst, then you will wipe them out.
enemy gonna block libe nuke tho
100% sure his units will go to the 2nd phase burst.
That boi's cp didn't change much from my old match against him.

makes sense
@oak hatch this guy's moran and noah cp is way higher than my previous comp. so, 100%.
He will be in this scene and RH will use burst.
good to know Iβll still have a chance, thx 
You are being haunted!
I hope everyone had a wonderful first day of Champion Arena - League
Nikke Champion Arena Season 22 - 31 January 2026
Team 1, Moran, Noah, Liberalio, Helm (Fav), Centi
Team 2, Noise, TVesti, Maiden: Ice Rose, Bay (Fav), Jackal
Team 3, Blanc, Cinderella, Biscuit, Mihara BC, Rumani
Team 4, Drake (Fav), Nayuta, Bunny Soda, Rosanna, Noir
Team 5, Scarlet, Rapunzel, Trina, Snow White: Heavy Arms, Laplace (Fav)
P.S. A...
I won against Weebtrap so I'm kinda proud 
he's rank 1 in NA
but now I'm potentially facing Kuna (1 champ) and Cryo (2 champs) in my matchups 
how does nayuta indom work?
@valid inlet The path is clear. We will have you pass Keripo in no time
how does this team work?
i've seen some people use default mast but I've no idea why
Buff besti with start of battle effects that make her kill opp team before they can burst
same here, these guys really want CA that badly huh. i guess we will have to make them work for it
To help vesti crit and kill p1-3, some people vesti can one tap wind units with crit so biscuit doesnβt work consistently, but its very rare
But C.A is top 1-3
isn't he gemming for nothing?
i believe it top 4 in sp arena point
what would be a good counter for it you reckon?
srry for not replying earlier btw I hadnt seen your reply my bad
Once he can CA, he didn't pass the league
as if i wonder why the word chin*man is banned
Thoughts on beating this comp? thank you
do you have Label?
No I dont. I did manage but its scarily close. maybe something more certain you might have in mind?
put jackal in p5 scarlet p1 tlaplace p2 trina p3 rh p4 make sure it's 2 RL and place it against team 2
You wanna go for 3 wins i see
Why are u running scar into noah

They dont
cause i was confident on t1 and 2 
I'd avoid team 3 tbh
If well invested it deletes your P1-P3 with vesti first barrage
yeah t3 sucks ngl
well the guy is cooking everyone on my arena with it so it must do something
U have cp advantage, just need to invest more durability
your team showed in there should win no problem.
he wants 3 wins 
He has 40 lvls on ur bracket, ofc itll beat everyone
Emma and eunwha boost vesti with crit damage crit rate, true damage and some buff that makes her hit hard
I'll give it a try tomorrow then and get back to you 
it's rookie
cp is the same though. ah he must be using this team only for defense probably
He still has 40 lvls of stats on u
It's CA only team but losing to Nayuta or Biscuit flat. Even to Moran or Noise linked.
Not just level, its more about investments
nvm I thought we're talking about the same guy 
Just the vesti being maxed with 40 lvl stat advantage will kill most ppl
Even if the support isnt even overloaded
yh I just wasnt sure if to attack him cuz hes also first on SP and I tried attacking him like 2 weeks ago and got mega cooked in rookie but that was before I was taking arena more seriously, hopefully I beat him now
That doesn't know how to use biscuit defender p1.
In my rookie as 488 i win against a 561
You are our cn lord nemesis
Congrats beating him again β¨
They are getting oneshot from full fr
This CA is already a win for me nothing else matters 
That's just crit luck. And Nayuta doesn't care
That dude could def run something a lot better, hes prob meming on the other ppl there
That requires a proper nayuta and a team that can burst at least
who? me? sorry if you dont mean me 
ah the other dude im against?
The guy running absolute mast
If rival does not have the investment, even with proper team could lose against peaksolute
When in doubt, use
Nayuta+HelmT+Centi+RH+LapT for sure win
yh, I mean hes 1st on sp without anyone being able to touch him
i dont have lapt

Rumani, Emi, SW, SR Anis. Just use anyone with same gen or more.
i dont have emilia 
i don't care that you don't have her.

Be nice
damm mean, alright
Actually you can just use any SG or Xmaiden too. doesn't need to be 2rl to win
that I do have 
Dam rip.
I gave up, let em have it. All that gem wasted for an avatar banner is wild. Should've just let them at it the first time they blew that many tries. Wasn't worth it being petty (my gem stash talking)
She stun p1 or Noah if Noah taunt her
Do you have Soda built?
If you Scarlet had Ele and Soda built just burst with Soda and wipe with scarlet for team 3.
Replace RH with Soda and put Jackal p5.
Need 1 more ATK here and my Laplace would have higher ATK than Rosa.
Ele can screw itself off I guess
Actually got 2 repeat Ele when I rerolled this piece. 
no I dont have her built at all actually 
Just do
Scarlet-Soda-Trina-Centi-Jack and check CP.
20 level gap you won't even need a unit to be built
If you could get to 1700k you should be able to gap that team. Doesn't need to have good team
1850k+ and sure win
I managed to make him lose once in rookie
It's miracle
My teams were like this
weird team to lose against 
Why would it be banned when Iβm also Chinese, hard to be racist towards my own palette

Well Iβm also Canadian
skill lvls matter tho no? ill try it next time depending on my CP. thank you 
@tropic summit pvp-arena is the only channel I know lmao
gotta do a mission to unlock these ones 
got a whole bunch of side quests to do now 
soda doesn't use skill level
pick one 
Man at 525 I got snake to 150 bar left but the 2nd double spray killed my ass.
@tropic summit sadge king
can't have Manchor+Hlem burst same time for the 3rd spray

I should clear it at 535 no problem
or if I maxed my anchor
yeah tons here too lol but my initial thing will be get all the mining spots done and have my factory producing stuff I can sell well
he dropped 8th? 
what do you mean 535, i'm going 521 
π¨π¦
actually I did but Anchor still got killed. And then the 3rd circle phrase killed my ass.
Seriously they make the snake going to circle phase over 2 times.
his money cant save his stupidness
I don't have your investment 
you make it sound like i'm well off, i'm still f2p with little cores 
@tropic summit if I can clear it 527? You can do it 501 
Also you are 525, u donβt need to maximize damage, you can just use sbs or Bready to delet heads
You have more research level and my Anchor 0lb not ever max skill let alone doll.
and you got 4atk 4ele on sw for 50 rocks


my rapipi also doesn't mlb. So only my helm has core.
100 rocks 
still many times better than me.
Iβm still 3 atk 3 ele
also my anchor is clearly f2p
no whel tech involved 

If my anchor has your investment I would have cleared it. My last run lost because anchor died to 2nd double spray.
at least you've label MLB'ed 
The snake after the first poison spray would spray poison 2 time each time is spray it, so you need Anchor+Helm stack + max hp+barrier before it spray to survive.

anchor hp barrier
Oh that
Of course
Also helps if you chant the delicious spell while doing her burst it make it stronger

Are you gonna max doll anchor?
oi, your chinese roots came out 
what do you mean are you going to, it's already done 
most of my units are 0 0 0 0 or 1 1 1 1
some exceptions on main B3s i get their gauntlet and helmetto lvl 5
Will try again after Union raid raward given out and my tempering reach 15
My tempering is 8
just wait middle of this month, extra chapters kick in, then you can 541 while i clear 521 
Man U people with level 9+ cubes are cheaters
I rather 101010 anchor skill than max her doll just for 1 boss
Gonna need her for ziz as well but I cleared it on 9/9/9 sr-5
Skill can be reset. 
zant, my dear, your clearing benchmarks are not really useful for us common mortals
i appreciate your input, but it probably WON'T help either me or blood to refer to your clears 
If I were you I rather max anchor skills like what @swift mango says
Maybe I would have more dmg if I played on PC and that 150 bars would be done
If u play on pc ur prob done
well what you waitin' for, go buy dat gaming PC 
or just get someone to do it for u
But mobile is not that bad
I cleared 32-32 on mobile

but then he's gonna get banned for account sharing
oh nvm my chinese rivals all have someone playing their account and never got banned

To be frank high rank union always has 1 guy ready to play for their union mate if they willing to send there account
For union raid only ofc ..
Or stuck boss like this maybe
New chapter release and get 102+ pre 32-32 anyway
Unless new chapter is hard or something
i like how SU probably knows there's plenty of account sharing but do 0 to actually bother enforcing their rules
and it's all cuz of paying customers 
If sync 321 clear 42-44 normal then new chapters could be 341 range I guess
how far are you into hard mode again
Idk I remember yenah played like 7 account during 1 union raid. And he only own 1. Most of them F2P.
wanted to compare with my bracket whel i wonder if you're keeping up with even him
@hollow lagoon he's on 42-43, synchro 606
holy f you are
you're keeping up with months disadvantage with my ultra whel 
sassuga zant, what a chad
U know I donβt play on as much deficit as you but Iβm still on deficitβ¦
nono you're definitely maldin' more than enough, this yellow guy is a whel + malder
Ofc your whale is nowhere ultra. 
oh? how's yours
My tiny CN whale also at 601+ and only cleared to boss 36
He canβt be malder lolβ¦. Heβs 42-43 at 2mil cp thatβs pathetic
that's a weak whel
but but... he's from nikkunny clearly he must be 

He used to clear campaign at fast as Havel on synch level even 10 lel faster but maybe the account changed hand
zant talkin' sh*t about my whel, i like that 
it means i could've been even more unlucky and got worse whels, i guess yay 
I snapshotted my team state for my clear 
doro only C1, shameful
Lowest*

speaking of campaign, i didn't know snow white was this OP for black snake 
Ainβt my fault I had a pilgrim drought for 4month straight then proceed to get multiple pilgrim boom after that event, 4-5 pilgrim off banners per event for like 3 event straight
@tropic summit look he cleared
Oh very interesting Nayuta heal share
i think nayuta wasn't really necessary, just cp padding. sw probably clears the projectiles on her own.
I Wouldent know
I cleared that thing like
I donno back in June or August
Sdoro was just released
the heal share can be interesting if u bring ada for other fights
yes he cleared... yes i see many important bits of info to why he cleared
@swift mango look, just do as above, easy 
Circling helm core 
i only have C6 
I wish I have this CP. 
And woa siren survive without Anchor
I have this CP if I used siren instead of Rapipi but she can't survive.
Even with anchor
just get more CP 
silly you 
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