#pvp-arena
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Anis and Maiden is linked
look at HP

Maiden has the lowest one
vigor saves the day for indom but blanc might die if p3
it's fixable by messing around with your built units
gonna have to drop T3 tho probably
in the case above you can afford putting tempering on jackal and running linked p2 and p3
T2 assumes 4 quantums lvl 7
and vestiTU 5CS% or more
i'll let @tidal lichen confirm if this still matches the idea he wanted to run with tho


lib won't be in time, so you gonna need to eat cindy nuke, hence the label one probably safer, although it's 2.5RL cindy
prob just send indom vesti to t3 and moran noah to t2 for guarrantee win no?
i always try to win all 3
No problem on that cause my quantum is on lvl 10 (Going 11 once UR rewards arrive)

and leave T1 or? 
Guess I lose.
probably
@tropic summit which one of us you wanna fight in top 32?
blanc mirrors always spooky

lost so many times cuz of the blanc indom delay
dude i dun even know if i get past qualifiers, i didn't even change anything 

I’m surrounded by genevis gons

Just trust the process
@tidal lichen @glacial haven this then?
So, Should I send it?
looks good 
matchup: #pvp-arena message
T2
moran temp
noah temp
helmt temp
swha temp
sbs any
T3
blanc vigor
vestiTU any
biscuit any
laplaceT quantum (vigor if laplaceT has less HP than vestiTU)
jackal quantum
just check HP in T3 then you good to go
One sec
please help me with teams for sp arena
SP arena
- nayuta trina helmt rh laplaceT
- noise swha siren noah biscuit
- jackal vestiTU blanc centi drakeT
I think we're set
ye HP looks good, if you don't need vigor put quantum on lappy
if you got spare tempering put it on vestiTU else any high lvl cube besides vigor
once that's set record and run 
15 
ok thank you, another question which cubes should I prioritize in PvP?
quantum 7
tempering 7
vigor 7
afterward you can push tempering to 10 or 11
@shell hazel i said i was gonna play story.... aaaaaaaaaand i'm upgrading outposts
keep getting sidetracked 

@tidal lichen and that's moran without treasure, i fear when they release it 
looks like gonna need to change plan to noah biscuit vestiTU archetype to deal with moran
the other one maybe slow cindy
@glacial haven show this next
make sure nayuta has less atk than both mihara and lap
No ada? 
RH is there in the offchance moran again survives
he gets a 2nd burst cycle
give it a shot

Ammo diffed
@tropic summit
yeah makes sense, your CS% on vestiTU was too slow
what an headache 
What would be good against them?
@glacial haven let's add noise DR and HP and move vestiTU in p4, try again tomorrow should be a win
run these
hello, how can i deal with this team in SP Arena?
@spark granite just noticed it's bsoda, put rumani instead of noise
or noise will melt to ele weak
nayuta rumani midhara biscuit cindy
I could try again. I already spend some gems today
Just for science
if you really wanna, up to you
No problem. This last one was my third run today. No problem going for a fourth. Besides, this guy annoys me a lot. So even is i spent some gem on him and win. should make me feel a little better.
no cindy?
used in T2
oh, i'm in a bit of a conundrum since cindy is being used to deal with their T.Vesti Team, here are the rest of their defensive lineups, thanks btw
Can I say something @tropic summit ?
+nayuta-rosanna
oh noise gave enough time to vesti? 
show le record if you got it 
Ya that’s how it was is what made me ask. But switching her did the trick Tyty
can the standard Scarlet/Trina/Ros/Centi/Jackal team be used on any of the three?
@tropic summit
blanc/cindy/biscuit/rumani/flex (speed) if RL +13 ammo-----emi or something
nayuta/scar-mihara/drake/vesti/rosanna
helmT/jackal/swha/laplace/noah
all 3 enemy teams actually counter the standard scar-trina setup, run these, you're on the left
yeah positioning and HP + DR fixed it
a lesson was learned here, no vesti in p3 against SWHA even behind noah shield 
can you try these later? #pvp-arena message
oh tqvm, can T.Laplace be replaced with another? its the only one i'm missing
emilia or xmaiden
SBS is also fine if you need padding
Sure. Why not? Can I ping you when I do it?
also... if you use rumani/noah biscuit against a low dmg comp, rumani p2 is better than rumani p5
you mean for slow cindy?
yep
nop, every comp that use noah/rumani biscuit against a low dmg pre burst comp is better with rumani p2
ye but against this specific setup i wanted to pop rumani invulnerability
ok thanks, will report back
- in the enemy 2SG + ros rumani p5 was to prevent bsoda/drakeT backstab
- in the slow cindy rumani p3 was just to prevent getting laplace splash in p2
Amazing! tqvm @tropic summit, such unconventional comps and they worked perfectly!
ye they work around the enemy lineup, siren stuns and prevents indom while you can safely DPS afteward
the other team makes use of 2 attackers to bait rosanna while you wipe safely with cindy
ironically your T3 actually went better than intended, as helmT survived and you didn't even need cindy at that point
That t3 was scary 

just another question, for this comp (in which you want Mihaha to die right?), are the positioning of the units strict. Thinking of using this for Defense kekw
slow cindy and/or midhara on defense is rather mild
although if your opponent just runs random teams against it they may struggle
the usual slow cindies are either nayuta or blanc variants
blanc midhara biscuit cindy rumani
or
nayuta midhara rumani biscuit cindy
or
rumani cindy nayuta biscuit midhara (this one tries to force enemy to burst faster and getting p1 and p2 invulnerable)
I copied some dudes blueprints for this one as the water thing is new and I wanted to get a feel for how this works before I consider designing more of my own
@tropic summit this is the team i need to kill siren on
bruh that's 4RL, scar-trina it
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XI...
nah not gonna use walkthroughs
kinda ruins the whole point of making your own sh*t
4rl doesnt seem right, it bursts before my indom snow nukes

yeah I will reset it and do my own thing once I know how this shit works
Anyways, it beats my team afaik on defense
assume CS% and actual RH hitting cover, that's 3RL at best
there is so much new stuff in wuling
water needed for certain things that didn't need before
pipes to lay, new type of power
yeah i noticed 
but I agree I think in the end running your own factory is best, tbh when you fully upgrade them you have plenty of room so don't need to be hyper efficient
I just need siren dead
the plant loopers are legit though
scar vesti laplace trina jackal, ded siren p1/p2
not if your opponent is not a monkey
you won't defend succesfully ever if they know what they doing, you know it best

just make 3 hard to beat teams and call it a day
They work against others
indom
stall
anti nuke + stun
mimic these with what you've #pvp-arena message
Ive got my indom, stall, and silly mihara sac

bench the 3rd, make it a 2RL nayuta + ros/RH
ye like this #pvp-arena message (minus the lib B3)
Once I overload anis: 
I dont have t.lap im missing a clip
Rail im boutt clip you instead
@shell hazel time to stonks
25% emi? 
i wonder if vesti can kill p2-p3 there
Where?
4.63 + 5.51 + 5.8 + 5.8
4.63 round to 5
5.51 round to 6
5.8+5.8 = 11.6 rounds to 12
total of 23% cspeed
23 + adjutant lvl7 (2.12 or 2) = 25
25 + s1 10 (13) = 38% cspeed
how many rocks were sent to the shadow realm for this?
...I see... you've seen hell itself 

he likes you a lot eh
the king loves me
can he call himself king when he can't beat ch1 tho? 
more like prince maybe
can i improve this further for defense? kinda bricked since i don't have t.vesti/moran invested. no emilia either. the other two defensive teams are the mihaha sacrificial one and the standard scarlet/trina/jackal one.
can i see your full def team?
Well should start getting moran decent, shes alr good, treasure soon
4/4/4, SR15, OL gear required?
Mean like 4/7/7 or 7/7/7, sr5~15, 4ol
What type of team tends to work against noah biscuit?
depends on what's behind noah biscuit and the RL
okay and she replaces Noise?
Its noah soda thelm SWHA biscuit
4-7-7 or 4-7-10 sr5-15 4ol
at the same time that team is an helmT B3, so you can slow cindy it safely
Oh i meant base soda, the guy is running the base version
put wrong soda earlier, here's the OG one
ye that's who i meant anyway dw
the approach here can be slow cindy to make use of helmT B3 or taunt soda into noah and noise to deny her pressure, then use a DPS B3 to win the trade afterward
So a low team works against them?
I see, thanks :)!:HelmSalute:
blanc midhara biscuit cindy rumani would wipe them yep
I'll try it ty
okay thanks, and which cube is best for her?
remove nayuta replace it with blanc
blanc-mihara-biscuit-cindy-rumani
tempering cube
so hard you dont have built vesti
@tropic summit 
should be 3/3 
Btw @tropic summit , forgot to thank you properly. So.... Thank you. 
Im new to this whole pvp thing 
I literally learnt what the term indom meant yesterday
done, she's ready to rock now, so where do i put her? in the SWHA team in place of Noise?

It's his duty as PvP MA
And sorry for pinging you constantly. I shall stop it.
you welcome 
yes
moran-noah-helm-sw-noise
or
moran-noah-helm-rh-noise
or
moran-noah-helm-sw-rh

@crystal flicker are you playing endfield too? being a good ol' factory man?
i just help out when i feel like it, that way i can dissapear at anytime 
#off-topic message
I just downloaded it last night, now still on the first chapter
noice we got another 
ouhh keeping noise there together with Moran adds to the sustain ig? tqvm again.
yeesh
like this
Thanks and sorry for l8 reply. Just saw this!
Pls help me make 3 teams, just get me the meta please, no need to concern about cp, i have a lotta resouces pent up,if you want blabla, dm me. Thanks in advance!
attack or defend?
If possible both please, it's been a while
I roll i lot meta char and never put them in the lol
no emilia 
think he's synchro before emi released
or at least i hope for him
fr
Yeah, i miss 2 collabs 😭😭
Chainsaw and rezero
Am I cookin

Equation
i think in attack vs helm snow nero not gonna last
Math 
True evil 
my nero did not live for that
Weak 
yes but is your nero c7 with 4 black lines of def
thats why im resetting her next anni
C4
f2p

you need to feed her more of your big and fat ||love||
Smells very weak Nero
Atk:
Moran Noah Lib Thelm Centi (2RL)
Bsoda Nayuta Tdrake Noir Rosanna (3.5 RL with 3 quantum cubes for 3 SG)
Scarlet Hwhite Trina Label Jackal (2 RL)
Def:
Nayuta Teunhwa Tvesti Temma Thelm (3RL)
Blanc Hwhite Label Biscuit Cindy (3 RL)
Moran Noah Lib Tlaplace Jackal (2RL)
Is this new character good for PvP?
i hate AI 
moran-noah-helm-rh-noise
scarlet-trina-rosanna-centi-jackal
blanc-sw-biscuit-cindy-rumani
quantum on jackal centi rumani
tempering on moran noah scarlet
vigor on blanc cindy noise trina
No
reject nikke, return to satisfactory
I never liked factories
Me when Dave the diver
all too many times 
Thanks you so much!, does this include all the requirement for characters' kit?
Thanks you so much! Is the cube is all their requirement? And this is a def teams?
Vesti and Rosanna high atk and crit, lib high atk and cs (ele for pve). Make sure scarlet and hwhite are linked with jackal. Ideally all of them should have OL5 sr15 dolls and high skill levels. You can build as you grow ig


Once again, tysm, this so detailed 😭😭❤️
yes

SPEND MORE GEMS!
i love it
MORE

he's just trying each single team he defeated you before with, until the one that worked fits again 
this so called "king"... 
one of SU favourite type of customers
i wonder how much gems he has

i want to stalk him in blabla
i want to know this FIRELITE union

"youtube"
Surely he’s just testing comps for youtube
probably not a youtuber 

it was you 
wish i could see his yt channel (if he has one)
he is still going btw (1.3k gems spent in the last 25minutes)
in terms of gemming maybe, definitely not in terms of skill cuz he's brute forcing like no tomorrow 
i understand gemming for the sake of research
is devil gapping him really hard?
but this guys is pure stupidity at this point
Auto and hope for the best
Auto and lol it will work at some point
1m difference, still in range
btw i alr ate my lunch and watched 1 ep of anime
sentenced to be a hero?
meanwhile the poor lad ego is shattering with every attempt 
uhh nope. its hell’s paradise
what are you even running on defense just out of curiosity?
but i will wait till 12ep. i dont want to watch another ep
yea this one
but recently i changed pvp team
ah beautiful
solid
ye i can see why he's strugglin'
lil bro doesn't know how to deal with 2 early aggro teams 
this is my new team now
and once he defeats me ill go back on my first team
CA teams
wild he can't beat SG stack and emi B3... 

those aren't even difficult 
yea CA dumb team but works on him
mister "king" needs help... 
ikr he even copied my def team before and i 3/3 him lol
Rail to the rescue
oof 
this... might be beyond rescuable 
well he's gonna learn a lesson either way
i think he gave up?
Stream: we are at 1,5k gems and still going
7mins no attack
he's swiping for more attempts
give him time to get his card charged
he's about to unleash another 20 variants of randomly ordered units
as someone famous would say:
He's reading prydwen
he's believin'
my whole entire gallery be like….
waos
also CA teams, i ran that snow blanc but i was missindom to biscuit
kinda funny im alttabing between nikke and vampire survivors
how many attempts?: yes
lemme count total gems he spent today
inb4 he committed sudoku by jumping out of the window out of rage 

40 attempts = 4000 gems
thats just today. not including yesterday

he could pull for velvet and his day will be complete
and then fail to secure her for over 200 rolls
found him btw
100% true story
AYO
bro got hit by enlightenment that money will not save you for having skill issue


@tropic summit HE BACK
40 minutes later still losing tho 
looks like prywen guide didnt help him
wait till he unleashes his next 19 randomly placed nikke, he's on a mission 



Beside both having black hair they don't look even close.
Dude tiktok too much is brain rot no joke
That guys insane

I had a big brother cousin who jump naruto always but it was because of "GRASS" Tiktok slowly does you the same
I haven't mentioned he almost jump 3rd floor of his house shouting naruto
Well he was stopped before it happened gladly
Otherwise he n Jiraiya would be drinking buddies
what if i told you
could've been a one time memory 
Please avoid going off-topic, . You may have unrelated conversations in #off-topic.
He was a rich businessman but being rich doesn't satisfy you
funny cuz we were talking about the lad gemming for quite some time and it is inherent to arena 
but now with the pics and stuff kinda offtopic 

Yea if theres noone asking pvp questions even for the past hour u arent allowed to go off topic, no fun allowed
get in line
This was Dyno just now
:dorowhip:
Sorry but I don't like her that much. 
Skipped her all the time original or alter. Her alter came to me as an off rate current banner though. So I built her up but I never searched for her
Both of her form was meta to boot. The original one not meta anymore but it was meta for like 5 years since start of the game.

im getting destroyed in pvp now. My current team is all 2RL. Anyone able to help me improve it a bit? I can build vesti soon. Let me know if you want to check if I have any nikke, I started playing during crown banner.
Wind units p1-2 aren't safe anymore. Unless biscuited.
And why SW p1?
Nice comp I gonna try in my serv
Do you have level sync advantage or not with KING ?
yeah maybe blanc sw biscuit
Hey, its just irl pvp
First time I do 10% coop day 1 and it happened. Guess I'm a jinx 
Your welcome
Guys, how much time emily and snow white full burst
Which character is faster full burst
Emilia has a longer charge than snow
They both bypass noah tho
Emi is actually faster with high CS and max s1 
4s charge that can use CS vs 3.2s fixed charge
Ic
What is s1, Is that her skill one?

crazy person here too, keep attacking me for 4th??
Zamnn, what your team sir 
nothing special, i just copy from someone here
Yes
Someone wants CA 
Ca already started tho xd
For next ca of course 
Does 3RL lib beat 2RL Cindy (this guy seems to have some charge and cubes)?
@swift mango dont you just love it when you sneakily change your def team? 
@tropic summit he finally did it
no, you dont blocking in time
Alright. I am dealing with CP deficit. I can only nuke with Lib but I have to bypass his Noah
I am not sure if SWHA can outdamage
(also I spent 130 pulls and only got one SSR and it was Velvet xdd)
swha shouldn't have much problems as long as she isn't in deficit, but still need buffs when dealing with such setup, so moran noah isn't really helping her
1 noir for me
entered sahara territory in pulls

You never know if she can change her appearance 
do you have anyone to replace moran with that doesn't tank your cp?
this is the guy. Fist team is easy. I decided to focus on 2nd as well. third seems to be too much
noise but she is not defender
I can use rumani but my lib is useless then
this is what I can work with
(ignore the teams that are currently there)
first I tank with Nayuta and then I can either use Lib (which I did before) or go with Vesti and SWHA (which I didn't yet) and I tried to do indom SWHA for second with vesti as flex
fake 2%
some stuff you can do for t2, that's all you need really, in first screenshot lib can be anything from thelm to clip rl as long as it doesn't force you into deficit, depending on their cs lib might be better as it makes you slightly slower and still able to catch their nuke.
2 siren setups depend if they have siren protection or not, as long as they not in deficit should kill
sorry, got distracted with some stuff while typing
fighting t2 with lib without stunning isn't really possible, and you either forced to do indom there, overdmg them with rh buff, or just disable noah with siren and clear with swha/lib
Siren hopefully stuns noah properly. I gathered that p2 siren always stuns noah with moran *(assuming he doesn't have crazy CS)
buffed SWHA should 2 shot his 6RL team
sorry biscuite instead of blanc
unless they fixed it recently - even 5 days ago moran wasn't taunting over noah, and noah still was getting stunned because moran "attract" isn't the same as taunt and probably doesn't override the prority
I will test it and let you know
i dont have noah, but as you can see I'm already on b2 but noise still gets stunned there, even though moran should've taunted over her 🤷♂️ enemy siren p1 there
does noise p1 always taunt over noah p2? what if I put noise in p5 and noah in p1?
depends on cs, and where do you want to use that? or just asking?
General question because I tried to build team with noise and I didn't know how to use her properly
the one who has lower cs get's taunt priority in noise+noah situation, so noah should be 1 tier faster than noise for noise to get taunt prio
that should be enough for it to work
That's also useful against VestiTU. Because I can't put noah in any p withoug biscuit since vesti would target her anyway?
nah, can be anywhere, it depends on siren position, because p3 p4 p5 siren will stun enemy p1 no matter what, unless they use fivehead setups and put noah at p5 with siren at p4 or something, so that your noah at p2 gets taunted by their noah at p5 and force you to shoot at p4 p5, which causes siren to aggro on noah, but that's still doesn't work against properly setup p1 noise+p2 noah with noise taunt prio*
Mind games 
Oh sorry. Vesti probably needs to be p1,p2
you generally dont what noah anywhere besides p1 p2 p5 as far as i know, p3 is really bad unless your plan is to make enemy faster
I have noah on p4 in rookie arena...
my logic was that I will prevent vesti snipe
and SR won't snipe noah
this team 1.5RL btw
Just from their faces you could see one is the meek style. One is the sharp, mischievous style.
Lore Wise: Priestess saves lives. Virtuosa's music makes people kill themselves or commit crime.
Good job 
dunno how bad that is, would love to have noah to test stuff myself
but seems weird to me to do that
luckily we dont have fire SR for it to really hurt(besides alice/eunwha), and if she taunts vesti at p1/p2 she screwed no matter what, especially if bad
I always deal with CP deficit. SR can snipe me anyway. If deficit too much, Helm and SWHA can really mess up linked Vesti tho
they do
skills for label?
you would b3 with rh there btw, which might work too btw, if scarlet falls fast, but either change to swha to p3 or vestitu 
I stopped at 5105
I am sorry. I don't understand?
rh can b1 b2 b3, if you make her do burst 1 at p3 then manchor does b2 instead and then rh does b3 because she is before any other b3 unit
oh f, you are right. I didn't think about it at all
Darn I don't even have 111 pulls rn.
went for 7107
that was dumb decision, but i'm kinda over it because it would've been dry no matter what banner i choose to spend them on, as i see it 
i also just wanted to get something, just anything usefull before ca and for campaign, not specifically velvet
but got only 1 noir in 111
It's bad if you dried yourselves out for nothing. Like my 150 pulls no Elegg but at less she is limited

no noah/scarlet/crown/siren/centi/mihara still, but i'm close to finishing 
You only lack 6 units in the game 

You started after ada banner? 
Soline is actually good for Arena
Label too ofc, but soline is also for SR.
I started mid Sora banner, right after raven banner ended? and obviously first few days took it really chill, not understanding for first 2-3 days that events here are 5 tries per day etc 
I used Ade this CA. as well.
Eh I guess you just skip RE collab
Not very wise decision
yeah, i have soline and label in wishlist, just didnt wanted to spend on their actual banners
didnt really measured properly how useful she could be at the time, like many, so just did 30 in her banner and that's all, didnt felt she would be particularly better as sub b3 buffer for elec content either 
Just like @tropic summit and his emi
might have been still a the wall at that time, dont really remember, would've affected my decision on whom to pull, ah, no nvm, I passed 160 wall right before it
Emi is actually my 3rd-4th banner into the game and she is at the top of my synchro machine now
broke it with those, took a while for the last
dunno why sbs wanted it so much

i'll be getting emi before you find rapunzel anyway 
what a king 
the results of hard work~~ and endless wallet~~
anyone know how to beat this comp?
assuming they've siren resistant p1
noah noise biscuit swha helmt
you can't be in deficit against this one btw
Huh, thanks. the problem there is Nayuta become immortal, which super annoying
so ensure you're above 0.846 x enemy CP
how do I beat their teams 1 and 2? their 3rd team feels like a throwaway with how fast it falls
ye she indoms upon entering battle for 9s
so i'm assuming your current T3 wins as is correct?
yes
ok this makes it easy then
do I put noise in pos 1 as shown there as well? when I tried the team earlier they lost as well, though I assume that's because noah in pos 1 got stunned by siren
the thing with siren is that your p1 is not siren weak as long as you're 2RL B1
if you've a 2.5RL or slower team, your p1 will be stunned even if it's a B1
the other thing with lib is that a 2RL lib can be caught by a 2RL or 3RL noah
you coud run that team 3RL or 3.5RL and still catch lib, i'm assuming they're 2.5RL at your synchro with basic CS% invest
if you wanna play it safe you can lower your burst speed to 2.5RL
what's the website for RL again? I want to double check
ty
Bet
if you going for 2.5RL, here's an example
(assumes vestiTU is 5CS%+)
else with SWHA you can easily get to 2.5RL regardless of CS%
all of the above should be a win as you'll be nuking before enemy does, and even in worse case scenario, you're shielded from liberalio nuke
This 2.5 RL is actually very fast and could catch a 2rl without cs
I'll try with snow and see what happens
he's against 3RL liberalio
or 2.5RL we dunno
okay yeah it worked, bursted before siren stunned too
@swift mango that's a fake 2.5RL alright 
appreciate the help
no problemo, last bit of info for you, if liberalio is killed before nuke lands, she loses all her buffs, so the nuke will be very mild
you can also opt for killing her before it lands to essentially nerf it down hard enough to be tankable

Isea, I assume I would target her with someone like rosanna(? I forget kits) who goes for highest attack?
yep or any instant nuker as enemy wasn't running any anti nuke/snipe or taunt
helmT here would downright kill her
but ye rosanna aswell would try to 1hitko her
ty again for the info
man
woman
i had to do fire iron and electric
why'd you skip wind
banned

you probably scored 30-45m
oh wowie even better than i thought
where's your velvet at
(in bed)

didnt know union could make it to stage 2
why you didn't trust in your bois
other wise i would have freely done my tries and do something like 57-59b
got new bois but one of the old beeg dmg dealer quit
wasnt's sure
retired he is
he's on a tropical holidays
getting laid
||unlike you||
maybe he finally embraced touching grass, he healed 
I broke out tripple sg for SP defense and it worked 
I also did jackal vestiTU blanc SWHA lapT
I don't think
I rather touch fish
Okay, imagine I actually qualify for CA.
Get to cooking those 4 RL teams.
Too late to cook for CA now
Next week.
@hollow lagoon you'll be able to cook with one of the most cursed box to access CA if yuki gets in
your talents will be needed
actually good point, we barely saw snow here this year tho 
I might just make it cuz no one except NCC contests.
cp pad
I lose my first match. GG.
he probably can afford making at least 3 decent teams
How does CA work? Make 5 teams and pray you win the matchup?
the other 2... time to dish out neon, anis and blue units 
You can't change them right?
sort of, you can try making teams that have high win ratio because they deal well with multiple archetype, but it's down mostly to team ordering and getting lucky
@tropic summit
i got my own yuki anyway
no you set them up once then let jesus take the wheel
Ah hell... Time to go 0-5.
Omg bruh
casually burning 50 rocks for a 1st/3rd line with 2nd line locked, nice thx for the consistently bs rng
not until you 💳
then it will be a battle between how big your 💳 is
I'm genuinely being put in some bracket of doom and despair
fear not, it will get worse when more ppl start quitting... and it won't be generally the whales or the top rankers 
Are people quitting??
in every bracket each season there may be someone going inactive or quitting, that can cause brackets to merge/reshuffle at the end of the 3 months long season
which causes more whales/gemmers to switch around, potentially making your experience even worse 
You can have brackets that never change like mine 
I finally pulled her (from a 10x social pull) how is she invested and used? Just 444 4ol sr5?
for now you can do that yeah
And where do u want her to be at as a breakpoint before max investment (and what is max investment lol)
She doesn't really have break points, you can just upgrade the skill that makes defenders invulnerable and gives them more hp
Used to be different back when we used her with S.anis
Would invest more into her burst back then
The shuffling happens every year right?
Oh. So just 3. Alright.
Rn, I'm in a pretty lazy bracket. I can keep my CH3 with only the CH6 and 7 fighting me.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
Alright thanks Dair. And how is she usually used? I dont have defenders like noah and cindy
jackal, blanc, rumani, centi all work
moran
as an example you could do jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit SWHA/lapT
if the enemy is running sg units on defense then you put place a defender in p5 and put biscuit on the team and it counters the team, or if they are running sbs then biscuit and a defender hard counter sbs and prevent hher from doing damage
The pve life is treating me good 
pve go0n 
@tropic summit Would these won? T1 is in deficit tho
T1 is dead, T2 and T3 look fine
How does comp with Jackal-Biscuit distribute their damage? Once Jackal gets invuln, does damage distribution only happens for 2 other units? Like for example I receive 100 dmg, will it be 50 dmg each for other two units or is it 33 for each (but Jackal ignores it, resulting in total 66 dmg)?
you take 2/3rd of the dmg, 1/3rd is denied
keep in mind the dmg jackal receives is denied fully for herself so shared is 0
I see. Thank you 
I made t3 random🥲 glad it works tho
Tho should i change p5 trina to tlap?
the only unit out of place there it's actually bay
the optiminal team would be
nayuta ros jackal swha helmt
or
nayuta ros jackal helmt swha
@tropic summit 👆 
ye you can as long as bay lives to 2.5RL B2
Im determined to make this team popular
waifu comes before meta
Oh shit I forgot to do Union Raid, was about to do it then out of battery and forgot

I should have helped killing Grave digger ...
Last I checked that boss was the only one left
There is also stout but it's HP was almost out
instantly kicked from union

Oh well, I still need to take a shower anyway. Still time left.
Maybe Stout is still there wait for me to log in
Thanks a lot! 💪
any advice to deal with this team without rosanna invested? Like i could invest in her but would rather not
hmm you could try killing blanc, it's an SR5 blanc albeit core 5
scar vestiTU emilia trina jackal
ill give it a shot
you'll want to give tempering to p1 p2 p3
enemy has pretty high dmg pre burst
and you're taking ele weak dmg from emilia on vestiTU if she's linked
depending on who's linked you may want to mess with positioning to reduce dmg
e.g.
Scar jackal emilia trina vestitu if vestiTU linked
I believe in rapu scar trina helmt xsoline 
mirror indom with scar? yeah could
Rapu stun blanc
don't you have to RNG rapunzel to drop enough in hp?
Could mirror indom too. Blanc bisc
Vesti is strong enough usually
won in the group that had the finalist 
Vesti plus emi hitting p1-2 drops rapu down enough unless you are he whale 
ye but down enough to be 1shotted... 
Soline is there to protect
Are you in game?
hmmm ok
Think 15
ye soline 15%, rapunzel 30%
assuming 1 rocket and 1 emi splash happening at same time don't drop her from 30-15% to 0%, it would work
ye i am
@oak hatch 
i imagine you want to see ur bracket?
@glad meteor come sit with me on the bench
at least we can watch rosy with 🍿 at hand
ok cool this works ty🙏

oh actually forgot to change scarlet to tempering but works out
^ your scarlet, probably and if she can still walk


No what 
Whats the best cube for pvp nowadays?
Im using resilience and quantum , is tempering any good too?
Depends
Vigor to target Blanc Indom on a jackal link
Quantum for the standard burst batteries
Adjutant if needed for a certain breakpoint
Etc
It is, usually for the unit at P2
nice anime
XD
Pretty much what i expected with the team-layouts, amount of outfits those folks had, and such :p Well, beat one!
this order sucks
blanc indom is always useless
winrate 0/3
Does anyone know how you can counter this? Like I don't even understand it.
Even though his Helm bursts, once both our Noah's invul ends, his Snow White instantly kills my entire team?
a very slow cindy-able enemy comp
whenever you see an helmT main B3, always think how to slow cindy against it
the deal here though is that you've to also consider how to kill moran afterward
either way give a shot with this if you didn't yet
blanc midhara biscuit cindy rumani
you need 999k CP so if midhara is not invested, fit an attacker that gets you at least inside non-deficit range
team should be either 4RL or 5RL, prefer 5RL
gib me cope material please
@onyx scaffold
Easy
next one is a bot
Yup
will send u spa teams later. im busy with raid rn
Thanks
bot arena 
looking good
ho you attack
not looking really good

thoughts? top defender
you should win
hope so
can help create 3 def team for sp area?
Doing my UR since PvP is pretty much dead for me right now. Dunno if it is a known issue, but Rebuild Stout. If you destroy the head right around the same time as he makes the shield, the head remains destroyed, but the shield is still up, so can't break the head to get rid of the shield 
Dang that’s unfortunate with the tie breaker
I’m probably out too soon, got hard countered by almost everyone in my group
Also found out about this yesterday the bad way 
@gaunt pulsar
yeah, 1 match away from the passing in the league
got knowledge still, 1 team didnt won me anything
I always do mock battles specifically to avoid this shit 
I won 3-2, 4-1 and then lost 1-4 to the last opponent
No advance gang again.
Only highlight was that the top 16 from last season in my grouping lost against all 3 including me 
Yeah it’ll be better next time, I somehow also lost out 3-2 in league, guess throwing my weakest teams all in the front wasn’t a good idea
@oak hatch #pvp-arena message that one was unexpected to me
i can see why i won, but in my mind it's still shouldn't have
also learned it myself the hard way who not run libe with against that
I guess my nayuta is just that good
Wow nayuta carry
somehow rumani survived 
swha ruined it for him, bisc proced
Yeah I guess so swha strong dps sells some matchups
This guy must really hate me. 
I don't think he hit other guys this much. 
wow no one cheer
Somehow my next opponent has like 3 real teams and two pve teams but they got lucky and countered me
yea it's just that if you want to run clean libe clearer that kills bisc teams of any kind without much protection you cannot place her with aoe dmg dealers, swha can proc rumani before libe nuke lands, nayuta can drive hp low enough that both cindy and rumani get bisc stack, so it's better not to run her with aoe or early nuke 
@dense kindle 
Then there’s some whale Chinese finalist that also counters me in my group if I don’t lose out next fight
Guess my luck is really good in this league group. Teams that I made in 4 minutes without optimizing cube sweep. 
Ye she destroys the purpose of lib against slow cindy matchup
lots of new names actually this season, or maybe i'm bad at recognizing CN lol
I see this guy like every ca but he usually loses out early, think he might of took out aimyon or cindoro early before, forgot tho
i see you invested in your SG this time 
Yeah it was my last team that had poor investment, don’t think it’ll save me against poor rng tho 
@swift mango I made to top 64
Why SG when you can do without them.
my wish, but incomplete box 
I don’t even think sg team is that bad, wins more often than slow cindy for me
how is advancing the groups calculated, I'm 2nd again with 3 out of 4 players having a 3-1 record. I won 3-2 twice and lost 2-3 once
i've heard something to do with total amount of matches won? i think? doubt anyone truly knows 
I'm not winning this CA for sure. 2 teams got less than 2rl because I didn't add quantum.
last minute cook, pan didn't even got hot enough and you had to turn it off
enjoy your cold meal 
What do u guys think about this matchup? Cindy likely wins?
who def or attack?
I’m defending on left
likely cindy wins
bc other noah shield should be down when cindy goes
assuming it's a 3rl cindy and not 2.5
if it's 2.5 ehhhh
I would lean the left winning then
but who knows what speed they are 
Well who knows it’s baby bracket so chances are they don’t invest cs

we cannot be called baby bracket there another one already younger than us 
the fetus bracket 
Yeah it’s likely that commander 200 4x champ winner still hasn’t gone to us yet
Dudes living the life over there picking up free wins

@gaunt pulsar finally tested. Unfortunately CP deficit is too much for Lib

He knew i'm gonna push the atk button
Did he awaken sixth sense?
I faced Weebtrap in Advance and won 

this is the run
This is how stronk trio comp is
ade just happy to be there

yeah I know about absolute, don't use personally
Burst in trio? No need 
a few of my fellow pies use it though
is vigor cube really bis for blanc in pvp even if tempering has a higher level?
Use tempering
My slow hwhite also won against his slow hwhite
thanks, how about for Noah?
Tempering 
If you keep asking Imma say tempering 
yeah it's moran dr + deficit, and unbuffed lib
we also stalled them long enough for cindy to burst after your noah, she would kill that but not on 22% deficit without buffs
<@&946725432554836008> 
i was going to ask for Noise but you already answered, thank you!!
Can RH buff Lib enough or it’s gonna be diluted?
Me facing Azuresky. And on the other side, Kuna. And if I some how won, Cryo (last CA champ) on top 
I'm so dead
Kuna is 1 time champ while Cryo is 2 time champ
I believe in my Union's cooking 
No one believe in me
I believe 
Nayuta teunhwa tvesti temma emilia (25% cs)
Blanc hwhite label biscuit cindy
Moran noah lib thelm jackal
Don't question the RL, trust the process
any alternative to tvesti?
dont have her built
@raven plover You lost to nepnep? 
Never too late 
how much cp do you have if you just switch noah to blanc?
significantly more than with noah?
ty for the team
will try to build her then
+23k roughly. I was about to check CP
Damage taken might do the job?
At least 40%+ atk and 5% cs for her to be usable. Other than that, crit
@swift mango pepper nayuta won against rosanna
Just how fast was that burst 
2rl
Not 1.5 RL?
No, 2rl
might be very tight, but extra cp and less deficit could help, you dont need noah there and you will be slower, but they will get stalled at b2 while you nuke their noah, considering how much you dealt to others - rumani and helm probably dead too, so it leaves you to clear moran+cindy with little to no dmg 
This win actually has nothing to do with Pepper.
ops, i was +45k. it might be enough
should be doable
Well, if pepper could get Nayuta to 2 stack before B2 then we could consider pepper could buff Nayuta. 
Idk how stack count buff work
Does memory absorption appear when pepper burst?
Main rival in SPA went to 721
his average CP for all 3 defense teams went up over 300k
Still not in deficit even with my lowest power team, but getting awfully close
I'm so so bad
You hate soda? 
Damn. They tanked your indom vesti 
Label is fake news 
Idk if Nayuta got 1 stack by herself before she burst even.

This is just bad label
She doesn't do anything in this team
could y’all recommend some sp arena teams 
idk why im always slightly too slow to burst
and then i die
I told you 
i told him 
@tropic summit It seems the new teams are losing more often. Do you think it has anything to do with charge speed or should I try a different team 3?
His gems paid off
She gets stack every 3s iirc
He was hoping to get a match with mirror scar team
Nikke Champion Arena Season 22 - 31 January 2026
Team 1, Moran, Noah, Liberalio, Helm (Fav), Centi
Team 2, Noise, TVesti, Maiden: Ice Rose, Bay (Fav), Jackal
Team 3, Blanc, Cinderella, Biscuit, Mihara BC, Rumani
Team 4, Drake (Fav), Nayuta, Bunny Soda, Rosanna, Noir
Team 5, Scarlet, Rapunzel, Trina, Snow White: Heavy Arms, Laplace (Fav)
P.S. A...
rosanna
So you're his spy?
Hot and fresh from oven, enjoy the 1440p~
run jackal vestiTU blanc centi laplaceT in shooting range, confirm vestiTU has less HP than laplaceT, if she doesn't you found your problem
also swap cindy with swha
change to this after fixing HP in T1 (quantum on jackal and lappy)
the guy I'm up against in CA is synchro 1022 
still lower synchro than keripo, probably a casual 

check recycling room
@tropic summit is rossana a good counter to label?
or is label's anti elec enough to allow water dps to tank her?
why
stats gap
It's tricky to use label
Iirc you should manipulate your main b3 so to not get targeted by rosanna
mine 
is not that bad... but i know is full max core units
I'm not using her. I don't even have her.
My opponent decided to use her after he realized I was using cindy. So now to counter it I figured I could use rossana since he replaced his rapunzel for label so if rossana can kill 2 of his attackers I can clean up shop
more or less, yea, but I think the matchups aren't that bad
But that brings me back to the question of if label's anti elec is strong enough to help dps tank rossana
rosanna remove buff of the 2 highest atk units in the enemy team, so they don't have label dmg reduction in 2 units, if you use a nuke team you can just kill the other units later, but are easier ways to counter rosanna or label (just use a different element)
rosanna+label same team against cindy or scarlet?
It's fine, try it
Cause rosanna dispel that anti elec
So just depend on your rosanna line build in the end
My Rossa doesn't have ele but she has 40% atk and crit rate. Anyway I'll post the exact team comp after I reach home. Ty for you time.
Also @lone sequoia I'm only considering rossana since I don't use her as much so wanna try getting comfortable using her.
the 80%atk work after the 2 shields broke(?)
try to get at least 1 ele just for water units, 1 ammo also work but not many people use rosanna in comps that last more than 300 ammo and atk... a bit more help if she crit with 40% i think her burst can kill a water unit (with her 2 burst procs)
Even with the 721 boost over my 684, I can still beat all 3 of my main rivals SP defense teams 
I'm in Satan's arena group
Even though I gave up on malding for top 3, doesn't mean I will let him completely chill 
This is an example to use label.
But you're forbidden to make libby get atk line at all cost and don't carelessly give her dupe
Dupes? What are those 
in DEF or atk?
Both?
Yeah
The main girl of Azur Lane finally won the popularity poll after 8 years, 4 season of poll.

Helmt at t2
No kashino in top 10. Fraud tier list
Top 3 of older poll don't repeat
Tlap instead of her?

Enty never got her top 3 in the last 3 polls. But now she finally got her well deserved top 1 as the leading girl of the game. May she will get her retrofit soon.
@covert lintel ok i may have been a tad too enthusiastic about my question.
we finally getting enty alter as celebration?
this should be an easy win right?






