pvp-arena

[noble python]

Yeah

[high stream]

Can I get some help with this guy? Also- here are all my pvp Nikke.

[placid bloom]

you need to have Centi and 11% team cs for Noah to not be stunned

no outplaying Mermaid in that team

[noble python]

Yeah back to the drawing board ig

[placid bloom]

well just think of it as prep for CentiT if you gonna invest

it also doesn't work with less than 15% cs on Vesti too, at 13% Noah is same frame as stun

[craggy pier]

first thing is use scar-jackal team for the team with drake, shotgun procs scarlets counter and jackal burst gen and def ^, and Noise wors good in slot 1 with rumani teams, Rumani slot 5

works*

[tropic summit]

run these, you're on the left

run these, you're on the left

run these, you're on the left

T1: fix HP for vestiTU to have lower HP than SWHA (vigor SWHA)
T3: tempering on helmT, cubes w/e

both teams aim to not be in deficit, although T3 can deal with minor deficit (up to 22%)

T1 need 447k
T3 need 482k

[high stream]

Is this team underpowered?

[high stream]

TDrake is missing 2 OL pieces, cause drop rates hate me

[quick pivot]

Looking for way to beat this in Rookie (yeah, I know, Rookie, lol whatever ) Also looking for new Champion Arena comps with roster shown

[tropic summit]

T3 gonna yolo, do it

[high stream]

I suggest favoriting all PvP Nikke u have, since pvp Nikke have the most diversity.

Actually makes team building so much nicer for PvP.

[tropic summit]

you need 466k, see if you've a better flex than drakeT or than centi, just need a tiny bit of extra CP

else just slightly boost any of those units (doll, OLs or cubes)

[noble python]

So I won R3 and lost R1

[tropic summit]

did you mess up the indom?

[noble python]

Ig so

[tropic summit]

told you to fix hp tho...

[noble python]

It’s legit not possible

[noble python]

To fix HP

[tropic summit]

then just swap SWHA with VestiTU and use a different flex in p5?

[noble python]

Even with no Cube Vesti still more HP than L7 Vigor SWHA

[tropic summit]

ye but then why run it

[high stream]

@tropic summit Hmm .. what f##ked the indom here?

[tropic summit]

same problem as marin, you guys just don't look at HP of your units

your indom target must've LOWER HP than your flex

[noble python]

Bc science and I have 2 attempts plus this is realistically the only guy I can beat rest of people CP gap me hard

[high stream]

Oh .. lol. How does my giga built SWHA have more* hp than my trash drarke

da fuq

[tropic summit]

then why run it

literally put 1 bit of effort in checking and knowing your own units

[high stream]

lol, im sorry

[tropic summit]

no problemo, you learn from this mistakes so it's all good experience

next time you know what to do

[noble python]

Ok ig Ill flex Lib in she has lower HP than SWHA

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU blanc biscuit helmT

(helmT must've more HP than vestiTU)

[tropic summit]

SWHA must've lower HP than lib

just swap vestiTU with SWHA and run SWHA indom

[high stream]

Okay, I got my SWHA to have less HP .. but I lost against his Noah, it survived with 40% hp left, SWHA died.

I guess I try again tomorrow

[noble python]

Ok then who’s in P5

[tropic summit]

jackal swha blanc cent vestiTU

[noble python]

Vesti has too much HP

[tropic summit]

bro...

[noble python]

She’ll mess up Indom

[tropic summit]

she won't, that's the whole point you using SWHA indom

BECAUSE vestiTU has more HP

[tidal lichen]

[tropic summit]

jackal swha blanc centi vestiTU
SWHA lower HP in the link = SWHA indom

your indom earlier failed because you said SWHA has less HP than vestiTU, so if you rotate them you get indom SWHA

instead of vestiTU B3 without indom

[quick pivot]

That worked, ty

[quick pivot]

Very close, but it worked

[lethal karma]

just read, i dont have noah & helm treasured yet sadly

[placid bloom]

did you watch the replay, cuz at deficit I think there is real chance that Nayuta + Mermaid hitting Jackal + Noir hitting p5 + SWHA proc on links is enough to just kill you through linked HP

[tropic summit]

btw get helm treasured, she's on blue doll

[placid bloom]

depending how much ele their Mermaid + Nayuta have

[noble python]

Ok

[lethal karma]

not even LB1 yet

[tropic summit]

he wasn't in deficit

[placid bloom]

okay

[tropic summit]

also it's a 2.5RL nayuta

he's on B3 when opponent is on B1

[placid bloom]

I mean just with normals, not even bursting

Mermaid at deficit actually hit kinda hard on Jackal with high enough ele

[tropic summit]

yeah but no deficit

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

can swap for helm dupes in the 100 pt exchanger thing

[lethal karma]

still pushing daily pulls for her, im short of 150 pulls till i can get both dupes

[placid bloom]

that is gonna take months

better start praying wishlist

and molds

and friend gacha

[lethal karma]

btw im guessing his team is going to be unbeatable for a while, since i dont have the units for t3 required

[tropic summit]

and jesus

[noble python]

Still didn’t work Vesti till gets Misindommed

[tropic summit]

what are you doing with vigor cube...?

it's really simple:

1. run team in shooting range
2. check HP without vigor cubes
3. who's lower is your indom target

[lone sequoia]

imagine unlinked swha

or core diff

[noble python]

SWHA is linked

[tropic summit]

linked is one thing, higher or lower HP is what matters afterward

run that team in shooting range and screenshot the HPs WITHOUT vigor equipped

of both those 2

[noble python]

Without Vigor on both Vesti and SWHA

[tropic summit]

yes

[lethal karma]

different player, how should i cook w this?

[tropic summit]

they're both 2RL in T1 and T2 and you don't have noah and biscuit, so you gonna need to indom against one of the two

at least T1 doesn't have anti nuke

[tropic summit]

vesti has more HP

jackal swha blanc centi vestiTU

[lethal karma]

https://tenor.com/view/gulp-cat-gif-27257259

[tropic summit]

do not equip vigor and you've SWHA indom

[tropic summit]

show CP with these

[placid bloom]

oh I think I might know what's going on Jackal dies and then SW stunned by Mermaid on 2nd stun

so SW cannot clean up

this is the issue with low dps team

[tropic summit]

nvm your scarlet is pepega

[glad meteor]

Pepegs

[placid bloom]

maybe Lib work better

at least you get your nuke off

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-connect-cat-girl-anime-cat-girl-cat-nonsense-yapping-gif-2853349568447956993

Maybe i watch princess connect

[placid bloom]

didn't that game get axed how it get anime

[glad meteor]

wadafak. Its a gacha anime

[lethal karma]

i dont got enough mats to feed her

[glad meteor]

I thought it was just anime

[glad meteor]

I just saw the gif

[tropic summit]

there's way too many gachas, people are not gonna settle for budget ones that are trying to milk the IP

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

silver palace will probably powercreep a good chunk aswell once it releases

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

animation and character quality is insane

and expressions

[teal ledge]

Brethren, wondering if I can make these teams better. It’s my first time in CA and I don’t have all the meta waifus yet.

Kinda slapped it together but I honestly think it might be the best I can do.

I don’t like t1 and t5 but they’re kinda the leftovers

[tidal lichen]

2 swhas

[glad meteor]

Overcommiting burst gen on t3

[tropic summit]

yeah he has no burst gen to deal with both

[tidal lichen]

slow cindy with nayuta wins against 2 no?

[tropic summit]

you want him to eat liberalio 2RL nuke?

[glad meteor]

Against snow ros he means

[tropic summit]

that's T3

[tidal lichen]

no the label team

[glad meteor]

Oh

[tidal lichen]

wait which one are you talking about

[tropic summit]

he's gonna need to survive swha?

[tidal lichen]

with bisc yea

[tropic summit]

what would the team look like

[tidal lichen]

cindy rumani nayuta bisc flex

vesti triggers bisc

he survives and bursts

[tropic summit]

@lethal karma #pvp-arena message

[lone sequoia]

scar counter swha, i have seen my scar killing swha before her 2nd shot with s2 counters alone... against unlinked and linked comps

[tidal lichen]

not sure if this makes the burst too fast

cuz of ada

[lethal karma]

you did say flex so thats the first thing that comes to mind

[tidal lichen]

usually mihara sits there

or siren, on that team

[lethal karma]

i do have mihara, a very uninvested mihara

[tropic summit]

assuming ada lives, he's on 4RL

if ada dies at around 2.5RL-3RL, he's around 5RL

iirc 4RL cindy will bypass noah shield

and definitely bypass label at 4RL

opponent is on 98% to 2RL and if on quantum they're on 2RL

[tidal lichen]

yea ada should work ig

[tropic summit]

ergo cindy will hit while their pants are down if anything

[lethal karma]

i should prob try 1 battle?

[tropic summit]

why is lib p1

[glad meteor]

Rumani pos will make team burst faster

Noah in p3

[tropic summit]

oh ye he might be 3RL

[tidal lichen]

[lethal karma]

force of habit

[tropic summit]

noah taunting in p3 gonna be giving rumani 1 more hitbox

maybe bench ada for a low burst gen unit afterall

[glad meteor]

Cindy nayu ada rumani bisc maybe fix positioning

[lethal karma]

okii

[tidal lichen]

rumani needs to eat vesti for bisc

sw one taps her no?

[tropic summit]

charged shoot likely will

[glad meteor]

Cindy p1 means vesti will hit p1-4

[covert lintel]

he used gems for rookie
Amazing

[tidal lichen]

rls ignore decoy?

[tropic summit]

you pissed him off

now look at how he unleashes superiority upon you

[glad meteor]

Ye, just sg and sr dont skip decoy

[tidal lichen]

[glad meteor]

[tidal lichen]

nayuta cindy rumani bisc flex it is then

[tropic summit]

put ein in there and let's call it a day

box: #pvp-arena message

[lethal karma]

im gonn have a go now

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[tidal lichen]

[lethal karma]

dont me mid battle

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[placid bloom]

[lethal karma]

won

[tropic summit]

imagine if 3 heads failed cookin'

[lethal karma]

recorded wait

[tidal lichen]

good.

[tropic summit]

we'd need to close this chat

[tidal lichen]

real

[lethal karma]

file too big need to up on yt

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

you recording 4k?

[green summit]

anyone have any advice how to beat this team? Also could someone help me build a new defense?

[lethal karma]

no, just a very high bitrate 1080p

[tropic summit]

ballsy to run 2 SGs in SP arena

[placid bloom]

[glad meteor]

Sync 600+ gons

[placid bloom]

I never heard 1080p file too big for Youtube

[green summit]

so just jackal the first team, i'm guessing?

[glad meteor]

Nice to see a syuen respecter

[lethal karma]

its like 153mb

https://youtu.be/uO20qM9QrNY

[placid bloom]

153 is not a lot

[lethal karma]

enough to force discord nitro on me

[placid bloom]

[tropic summit]

post this matchup, you're on the left, need to doublecheck CP

[gaunt pulsar]

it should've been "file too big, need to up on yt" not "file too big need to up on yt" confused me too without "," lol

[placid bloom]

[lethal karma]

comas for old people

[tropic summit]

burst was a tad fast afterall, although followup hits were lethal

[gaunt pulsar]

at first i thought file is somehow too big for yt

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit I feel like we beat this before?

[covert lintel]

I just do dailies

[glad meteor]

Cocoa

[tropic summit]

curious, it seems to be the same person 5 times on your "dailies"

[tropic summit]

what in the flying f*k is cocoa doin' there

[covert lintel]

i always click the top opponent

[tropic summit]

i'm not sure if he's trying to assume you're debuffing or he's trying to tank your lib

[leaden canyon]

no idea, his rookie team runs her too

[covert lintel]

Middle or bottom give less point

[tropic summit]

29% deficit jesus christ

[lethal karma]

them or my team? should my burst gen be slower in a typical slow cindy setup?

[covert lintel]

amazing he gems again shortly after i atk

[tropic summit]

no it's fine, we were 4RL afterall, 5RL would fully bypass, 4RL is partially bypass

it was a cindy buffed nuke anyhow, so it was lethal

[lethal karma]

oh okay

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/diamond-sparkling-uxg

[green summit]

T1 is 1841306 11.53% def
T2 is 1799606 16.4% def

[lethal karma]

do this def team need any tweaking?

[tropic summit]

if it's the helmt laplacet in deficit it's fine, you can use a different flex than laplacet if you got:

vestitu/swha/emilia

would turn into

• noah biscuit vestitu helmt noise
• noah biscuit swha helmt noise
• noah biscuit helmt emilia noise

pick either of the above

[covert lintel]

Hope he makes a great def team again

[tropic summit]

booly

[leaden canyon]

I dont remember what we killed round 1 with

[tropic summit]

it was laplace sacc with vestitu burst

[lethal karma]

rookie team no less

[covert lintel]

Rookie is where i learn

[leaden canyon]

was that when noah was still p2 instead of p5?

[lethal karma]

the team i have vs the one im against with

not having thelm this late is such a pain

[placid bloom]

It’s okay, I don’t have Noah to this day and she is core B2

You learn to not care

[lethal karma]

thelm has use in pve tho , bro im missing some fun with behemoth bossing without her

[gaunt pulsar]

it's pretty much undoable on low sync without her

[lethal karma]

Best ive done so far is ~260hp stacks left with cindy nayuta ada crown rapi @ 319k CP

[gaunt pulsar]

ada could be your savior here without helm, but probably rough still

[lethal karma]

Nayuta ada has enough vamp heal but barely

Need to time burst perfectly

[green summit]

I just dumped all my maintenance mats, and rocks to increase noahs, biscuit and noise's CP as much as I can. With the Noah Biscuit SWHA helmt noise team, I'm at 1831002 CP at 15.13% deficit

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit Ok yeah I went through some vids and we never killed it with noah in p5 I think

oh nvm

[tropic summit]

ah then you could run the sniper team plan

[leaden canyon]

I found it

[tropic summit]

yep that's very good, you can run it

[leaden canyon]

Noah p4 and we used lap vesti emilia rumani nayuta

hmmm unsure what to do about he other two teams

guess I can try the noah biscuit SWHHA helm noise?

for round 3

[tropic summit]

against indom you can run the usual nayuta team
against their T3 run lib or vestiTU in p4 with buffs and resistant p1 and p5

29% deficit lib crown buffed would be an interesting take

[leaden canyon]

Rumani would be on p1 if we decided to fight it again

[tropic summit]

@leaden canyon i'd run these

[green summit]

thanks I got the win

[leaden canyon]

k

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor yeah scar s2 can be lethal alone on swha

[leaden canyon]

yeah I had a bad feeling about the rosanna team into tripple b3

[green summit]

Also, if anyone is able to, can someone help me build a defense? I'm a bit worried in the new shuffled bracket.

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh emilia
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi drakeT
• noise siren swha laplaceT noah

[tropic summit]

oh he fixed CS% perhaps

try moran anchorIM trina biscuit helmT

[leaden canyon]

WE know his SWHA kills through that

[tropic summit]

it's not an indom SWHA this time is it though?

[tidal lichen]

id send a slower blanc to that

[leaden canyon]

uhh maybe

whos linked

[tropic summit]

well what kricoun says is also an easy way out

same speed scarlet/RRH/ein will do the job

they're all slow firing B3s

no matter who gets it anyway

just stay out of deficit

e.g.

fix HP as needed on whoever is linked

[glad meteor]

My wifi poop but will have a look later

[green summit]

I think centi is in 2 teams there

[tropic summit]

was around 50-60%ish HP in 2RL, as soon as noah shield drops, she almost died on a noise buff

[tropic summit]

flex clip RL, use trina instead of centi in T2 or T1

same purpose

[eager brook]

Do we have data about the new sniper unit burst generation?

[green summit]

thanks! I'll do that. Is there a list of all the Clip RL somewhere here? I don't see anything like that in the pins.

[quiet fiber]

Can anyone help me with a new Sp Arena team? I've built TVesti and Big Snow but never put them in SP arena.

[tropic summit]

ye check kosmiu sheet

sauce: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246

[green summit]

thanks!

[tropic summit]

looks like same as other SR nikke

[green summit]

if my Rumani has significantly higher CP than my trina, is it okay to swap them?

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh emilia
• jackal vestitu blanc trina draket
• noise siren swha laplaceT noah

[tropic summit]

ye can change the team and team ordering to this

put quantum on rumani, any lvl

[leaden canyon]

ein one worked, I tried scarlet before and it didn't work, she died before burst

[tropic summit]

yeah perfectly went to plan

(nice misindom)

ironically swha offburst has a ton of lifesteal btw

looks like vestiTU barrages wouldn't lethal in time before she heals back, as long as she doesn't run out of ammo

[quiet fiber]

Thank you for always helping out with my team building.

[green summit]

done thank you. I put all 5 of my quantum cubes on the ones you mentioned on team 3 and Rumani.

[glad meteor]

[open dove]

Can anyone help me make some special arena teams? Attached unowned nikkes and my top cp nikkes.

[terse abyss]

what team does rosanna usually goes into?

the shotgun team is what ive seen in champs arena

[rustic sandal]

Hah. I knew it.

[open dove]

what do the numbers mean

i understand at a basic level what 2rl/2.5rl means but what are the percentages?

[hollow lagoon]

Replace Laplace with like not it I guess

[rustic sandal]

It means you'll hit that threshold % of the time.

[hollow lagoon]

@open dove if you eat 116% of a single cookie how many cookies did you eat

[open dove]

thanks

[terse abyss]

tbh i didnt know what it meant either lol

[tardy bone]

@hollow lagoon sorry to ask, what app is that?

[tropic summit]

just a few because then you feel sick

[terse abyss]

whats that app btw, i need to use that instead of this excel sheet

[tidal lichen]

depends on the cookie.

[rustic sandal]

It's a website.

[tropic summit]

good point

[hollow lagoon]

Yu gi oh master duel
(NIKKE deck)

[open dove]

what's a viable replacement for laplace?

[tropic summit]

nikke card game

[hollow lagoon]

Slap a noir

Probably will work

[tropic summit]

clip SG or emilia/vestiTU/SWHA/xmaiden

beware that lappy is essentialy clip RL, so a tad faster than regular clip SG burst gen tier

[open dove]

and then what are the symbols? like the lightning on vesti or the book on treasure helm?

[tropic summit]

book assumes unit is meeting the recommended values to maximize on burst gen, e.g. helmT s1 lvl 10, phase 2 treasure

CS% is the charge speed to hit thresholds, e.g. vestiTU on 5%CS+ has increased burst gen for 2RL

regular batteries and most other units have 15%CS as golden number

emilia has her own thresholds

this is stuff u can get familiar with later down the road, start learning basic teams and pvp anyhow

[rustic sandal]

Uhh...

[open dove]

well no emilia so don't have to worry about that i guess, so all teams expect 15% cs at base for rls and snipers or just rls?

[tropic summit]

not expected, but it can let you hit faster thresholds

don't bother investing in CS% unless you wanna aim for high ranks

hell you can aim for high ranks even with little to no CS%

[rustic sandal]

If my SPA is this quiet, I think I have a chance to qualify to CA.

NCC is a problem, but manageable. I know his online times already.

[open dove]

do i need to consider cubes? like quantum?

[tropic summit]

imagine going CA without half of the pvp core units

[rustic sandal]

The ones below haven't attacked yet, or are too busy attacking each other.

[rustic sandal]

Let me cook, is all I say.

[tropic summit]

yuki setting whole new records

[rustic sandal]

Quantum, not much.
Tempering, maybe.

But for PvP, just put your highest level cubes on your units.

[tropic summit]

situational, quantum gives you a tad bit more burst gen per shoot, only need it when you're missing tiny bits of % to hit next treshold

[hollow lagoon]

For vesti having 5% charge speed will achieve similar result, if u don’t have 5% on vest u should reroll

[tropic summit]

to help you understand, here's a team you can turn 2RL from natural 3RL via quantums

[rustic sandal]

SIRI and NCC are a problem. Especially NCC.

[hollow lagoon]

Time go ch1

[rustic sandal]

I meeeeeaaaan...

[hollow lagoon]

Looks do-able

[silent torrent]

can someone explain to me what the terms 2RL, 2.5RL etc mean? I think its referring to "The team reaches full burst in this amount of rocket launcher shots" but I fear I could be wrong

[tropic summit]

if you had helm on treasure phase 3 that's actually doable

[rustic sandal]

I don't.

[rustic sandal]

Kill me.

Siren fixes this too.

[tropic summit]

indom also does...

and noah biscuit also does

[hollow lagoon]

2.5rl is half a rl slower than 2rl, time it take for a rl unit to fire and land the shot and gain burst from the shot is considered 1 rl

Holy shit I did a proper explanation today I’m being nice

[tropic summit]

this is a fake zant, report

sober zant

[rustic sandal]

[silent torrent]

you gave me the other day some teams recommendations the other day and I'm eternally grateful btw, I was using one of the tools you sent me and Bsoda makes my team the team 2.5 RL, my drake also seems to keep the team in 2.5RL but she has more cp, would I better off using drake?

[silent torrent]

thanks a lot

[hollow lagoon]

Velvet must have extracted all my frustrations

[tropic summit]

depends on what you using those units for, but for the sake of just being batteries, they'd serve the same purpose

drakeT is slightly better choice offburst as she'll give you some passive atk% during FB

[rustic sandal]

2 weeks before Phase 3 HelmT.

[silent torrent]

this is the team, I assume they serve as batteries in this team 🤔 ? at least it seems to me if so drake is better due to higher cp yeah?

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/helm-helm-nikke-nikke-gov-nikke-gif-9863113475501277000

[open dove]

are there general archetypes of teams i should be putting a certain team against?

[tropic summit]

yeah here it would make sense, you can swap drakeT

[silent torrent]

does it substantially change from drakeT to normal Drake?

in this case or in general I guess

[rustic sandal]

2 RL Nuke I guess.

[hollow lagoon]

Rosa sac

[tropic summit]

barely any difference

[silent torrent]

I see, thanks a lot once again

oh one last question, do the skill levels of batteries matter? like I was checking a website the other day and the skill breakpoints for Bsoda in pvp were 7/4/10 do I need them to be so or can I just keep her at 1/1/1?

[tropic summit]

yes there are... in general you'll want noah against enemy nuke oriented teams
you'll want indom or antinuke against glass cannons
you'll want sustain/stall against some others depending on B3
in some others you just want to burst faster

here's a few examples of matchups with their respective counters

(noah anti nuke + sustain)
(indom)
(scarlet faster nuke than enemy bay B2)

[tropic summit]

4/4/4, 4OL, R15-SR5, is generally a good stopping point for most pvp units, so to not tank your CP too badly

obviously core pvp units and main B3s will want optimal if not max invest

batteries can stay as above

[leaden canyon]

@tropic summit This still wins right?

[silent torrent]

I see, thanks. unrelated but what does indom mean?

[tropic summit]

yeah you gonna die to DoT here

you've to survive at least 3-4 ticks because of nayuta

on 22% deficit they probably hit for like 15-25% of your hp

[leaden canyon]

I guess I coould noah

[open dove]

what constitutes a glass cannon? just like no sustain, no invuln or any tanks? Just like old scarlet nuke?

[leaden canyon]

that would block some ticks

[tropic summit]

cut the deficit closer and throw a noise in there

you can also avoid killing mihara early with SR team

[leaden canyon]

I think thats out of deficit right ?

[tropic summit]

ye out of deficit, 13,2%

[leaden canyon]

k cool

[tropic summit]

also decent speed wise

[leaden canyon]

Keep vigor on noise?

[tropic summit]

might aswell

[leaden canyon]

alrighty

[tropic summit]

• jackal links with the two highest atk% units in the team, this is determinated at the start and won't change during battle, unless dispelled
• blanc casts indom on the unit, in the team, which is the lowest HP at that moment
• since you can use linked units in p1 and p5 to distribute damage between themselves, you'll ensure the lowest HP in the link will be indommed

indom: cannot go below 1HP for 10s
example below has SBS helmT and jackal linked, SBS is lowest max HP in the link, SBS is picked as indom

[leaden canyon]

Next time tempering for sure, noise almost fell over before burst

[tropic summit]

right u did mention that cindy is stocked on black lines

[silent torrent]

woaaaah

thats so cool

everything I see about pvp makes me want to understand it better

[versed mesa]

I like the systems of the mechanics, I hate the actual way the arena system is played

[tropic summit]

it's fun and games until you reach ranks where you're on same or near same invest and both know what you doing, then this game prefers offense over defense and you'll be stuck in a loop

also, whales will deficit against you, preventing you from playing

[leaden canyon]

I guess if I can stay in deficit on that team I'm always fine?

[placid bloom]

I can't think of a single PvP game that's not live matchmaking that has good PvP

[tropic summit]

ye they don't have any real pressure, slow ass team without any gimmick but CP pad

[versed mesa]

Or brute force gem to keep you down

[silent torrent]

im at around 14% currently so just below the cp penalty luckily

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit if I recall correctly 2.5rl Noah can’t block 2rl scarlet?

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet B3 happens when 2.5RL is on B1

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

since it's an instant nuke, noah cannot catch it unless you've severe CS% advantage

[silent torrent]

What does this symbol mean?

ah it didnt screenshot the cursor

the yellow thunder below tuvesti

[silent torrent]

thanks

Are defense teams built differently than attacking teams? or theyre built the same way

[tropic summit]

different, attack teams can abuse what opponent is running and work around counters

defense teams should make it as hard as possible for the opponent or run traps

[silent torrent]

so you build more generalistic defense teams?

[tropic summit]

not as much generalistic, but teams that have less solutions possible

[silent torrent]

i see I see, i assume then they naturally require higher investment then?

[tropic summit]

they require specific counters

and knowledge checks

even just knowing how fast your team bursts and how to build an indom team will probably set you in dia1-ch10 range

[silent torrent]

you gave me the other day these teams to use, would I be fine running one of them in defense or do all just not work for it?

[tropic summit]

these are in fact defense teams

[silent torrent]

ah

[tropic summit]

you can use them for attack as long as you know what you doing

[silent torrent]

i was using them purely on attack for the fear of not wanting to use bad defense teams

[silent torrent]

Im not really sure what im doing since im still very new, but even these teams have already helped me get withing challenger which I couldnt do before so I guess itsm working

[wild hemlock]

I want to use poli in sg team but it's so hard to put nayuta somewhere else but not using nayuta to use poli is dumb

[tropic summit]

yeah you're running some solid overall purpose teams

team 1 is a very fast aggresive team
team 2 is an indom SWHA
team 3 is a generic anti nuke with average DPS and stun pressure, with biscuit lock on defender p1

[silent torrent]

what teams counter indom? fast teams Im guessing?

[tropic summit]

team 3 should be the team you upgrade first, it could use better speed and better B3, vesti would be a good addition

[silent torrent]

or stall teams(?)

[tropic summit]

depends on the indom B3, some are actually so expensive to counter that you downright skip them

some can be kited, some can be tanked... some you wanna kill them before they become a problem... some others you want to keep stunning them and lifesteal against

[silent torrent]

replacing any B3 in that team'll be the hardest both of them are very built but I'll try

[silent torrent]

i guess it comes with experience

[tropic summit]

ye that will be important

once you know what a unit does and what it is weak or strong against, you'll find out arena is just rock paper and scissor

[gritty ridge]

Hello broski

[silent torrent]

do people even try going above 15.4% deficit? or is it just suicidal?

[tropic summit]

the man that just typed here now is fighting against 29%+ deficit

or at least was on regular basis

but jokes aside, in general above 20-24% deficit against meta teams it becomes just not doable

the advantage the opponent gets can nullify counters, then you're screwed

[silent torrent]

I see, thanks once again

im gonna go read some guides, hopefully next time I ask something my questions are less obtuse

[gritty ridge]

37% deficit is the highest ive hit

Maybe if I make my vesti stronger I can hit more

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Rosy ein indom isnt as strong as vesti indom

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spellwizard-4

[gritty ridge]

Listen, some of us here are in deep denial

[umbral crown]

Vesti is now with absolute, where she belongs

[gritty ridge]

Use that against 35% deficit for me👉 👈

[azure star]

for those under a rock the past day is velvet worth consideration

[haughty mortar]

I have doubts

[tropic summit]

at least that should kill all of them minus scarlet

then pray she runs out of ammo

[tropic summit]

oh nvm you're ded

that's crown not noah

won't work

[umbral crown]

[haughty mortar]

Yeah imma give it a try tomorrow

[tropic summit]

ye but don't go with that team

it's 100% loss

[haughty mortar]

Yeah fo sho

[tropic summit]

rethink the strategy

[gritty ridge]

Hey sorter, whats ur ign?

[tropic summit]

Bigboi 58

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Anyway, he may be in my spa👉 👈

[haughty mortar]

Sorter

[tropic summit]

eh noway

[gritty ridge]

My spa is so messed up man

[haughty mortar]

I like to keep shit simple

[gritty ridge]

This shuffle was terrible

[haughty mortar]

You can say that again

4 Whalelords

[umbral crown]

Is not me

[lunar pawn]

current roster, any CA setup recommendations? got label too but Idk where to place her

[azure star]

i feel safe in my bracket now

[gritty ridge]

I know 2 of these people

Also, @umbral belfry

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit 777 label and 1/7/1 Shelm vs 10/5/10 liter and 10/10/10 helmT

[silent torrent]

does vesti want to burst in this team or does lib?

[haughty mortar]

What is yours? And I take it we are not in the same bracket

[haughty mortar]

What would you suggest? I know their team is 4RL so I need to be fast, but my problem is the CP gap

[gritty ridge]

Mine is bigboi57 lmao

And yeah not the same bracket

[haughty mortar]

Great! I don't need more whales

[gritty ridge]

Sorter youre like 50 sync above ne

You'd be kinda safe

[haughty mortar]

But..........you're a big boi. I am scared!

[gritty ridge]

Smh, you and zant

[haughty mortar]

Dunno who dat is but seems to have a good sense of humor

Man, the two chapters can't come sooner! I am itching to unload my boxes!

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit

Collab reveal

teaser

[placid bloom]

My Nikke Can't Possibly be a Middle School Girl

wait does this mean we'll have another pistol AR again

I don't remember if Chisato used any other weapons

[wanton island]

anyone got a solid label team for champ arena?

[keen vapor]

Maybe the X is a hint

[keen vapor]

Why the protagonist is this bad every single time

[glad meteor]

They’re saying it’s lycoris recoil

[keen vapor]

Is like a requirement to have a main character that can use a terrible weapon?

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-anime-gif-22139390

[tropic summit]

why do you want to fit label in CA

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm i wonder what it could be

[wanton island]

she is a pvp queen

[placid bloom]

I mean she is middle schooler in Tokyo, you think she can just walk around with rifle

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-for-editing-gif-19127929

[placid bloom]

handgun can conceal under skirt

[wanton island]

fine. w/e. ill just watch champ arena and see what they do with her.

not hard to see what meta is

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit you never responded to my spa teams

[wanton island]

you even in champ arena?

[glad meteor]

Mystery is dead

[gritty ridge]

Label counters 1 team in CA

A team thats already countered by alot of other teams

[glad meteor]

Label is decent in slow cindy

Brings some consistency against scar. But loses to lib as usual

[wanton island]

judging by responses... im gonna watch champ arena closely. sounds like there is a lot of conflicting ideas

[gritty ridge]

Im not using her, as she has no real place in any of my teams

[glad meteor]

Just depends on how dice rolls as usual anyway

[placid bloom]

pretty sure she has below average win rate even for Cinderella variant

[glad meteor]

[placid bloom]

she has too many issues

they should just get rid of the stupid targeting protection when her shield breaks

so she can eat shots under Biscuit protection

[glad meteor]

Label treasure

[gritty ridge]

If I was missing noah or bay I would consider building label

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-22669238

[wanton island]

k so youre a troll. blocked

[tropic summit]

which ones

these? i thought you were joking #pvp-arena message

[gritty ridge]

No thats attack lol

[gritty ridge]

These

[tropic summit]

interesting

linked noise

usual vestiTU with moran noah

and some curious sacc

should repel the monkeys in your bracket

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man3-emo-peter-parker-bully-maguire-ooh-i-protected-you-in-high-school-now-i-am-gonna-kick-your-little-ass-gif-20918941

[gritty ridge]

Im interested in how the nayuta team will work out

[tropic summit]

assuming opponent knows what they doing, they'll want to keep that team slow by using SRs and just 1hitko you

[gritty ridge]

I end up around 2.5rl if they kill mihara tho

[tropic summit]

rosanna on def has become weak unless linked because SWHA can reveal her

[gritty ridge]

Hmm, true

[tropic summit]

try to run her with jackal to increase her effectiveness, unless ofc you just sacc'ing with her for burst gen

[gritty ridge]

Her gen is her main use there yeah

Mihara and nayuta the main dps

You think I should put her p4?

[tropic summit]

better but she'll be revelead regardless, if anything she doesn't get SR dmg

[gritty ridge]

Thats what I was thinking

She is solo b1 afterall

I honestly forgot snow reveals her

[tropic summit]

ye SWHA is actually a relatively good counter for rosanna because of that

she may still get lethal'ed but she ensures your other non water code are no longer 1hitko

[lunar pawn]

nikke x phrolova

[gritty ridge]

Using rosa to dispell buffs and as gen still works well tho

I love multifaceted units

[silent torrent]

does an arena battle simulator web exist?

[rustic sandal]

Leave me alone!

[tropic summit]

closest you can get is this
https://nikke.top/

based on the units you put, you can see when and who casts what

the moment you know for example a noah B2 happens before a scarlet B3, you know that match is likely settled

same goes knowing that your blanc B2 will go off before an enemy glass cannon B3

[silent torrent]

is blanc the only unit that can make indom? like is it a skill of hers or a mechanic some nikkes have

[cedar sorrel]

Nayuta has built in indom as well

[silent torrent]

ah yeah true, i forgot about her, thanks

[raven plover]

makima

[rustic sandal]

Oh my god. 7, 8, and 9 can't even touch 6. I'm doomed to forever having NCC as my shadow.

[lunar pawn]

I need to copy someone's CA teams

should I work on label

[rustic sandal]

1/10/1 with SR15 doll is good enough right?

Maybe head and chest OL for HP.

[umbral crown]

Lycoris recoil?

https://tenor.com/view/lycoris-gif-25680841

[quick lake]

skip collab

[eager mountain]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/lycoris-recoil-chisato-nishikigi-nishikigi-chisato-gun-shoot-gif-12654373839164675330

[void pendant]

How can I beat this team? My team is the one below.

biscuit...that character hasn't appeared in the gachapon for me this whole time.

[swift mango]

I can see myself just pull 1 copies and done.

not like I have gem for more

[quick lake]

2rl scar or vesti, in pins

[umbral crown]

But what if mlb in 10

[swift mango]

like, use Vesti/SW instead of ASS

[swift mango]

in my dream

[raven plover]

pray for me rosy mlb first 10 sakana

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

At least this collab is better than Resident bullsheet

[umbral crown]

We got Ada

True damage meta

[void pendant]

new snow white?

[umbral crown]

Yes

Hopin you did not skip her

[crystal flicker]

The only good design is Jill, other just meh

[swift mango]

Resident girls are sexier

[umbral crown]

I did not like jill at all but Ada

[swift mango]

The anime design for Ada isn't good tbh.

[umbral crown]

I refer in game

[swift mango]

We have much better fan design out there but they make her DKW knockoff instead

[crystal flicker]

Ada still mid tho

[swift mango]

Congrats on Red

[umbral crown]

Imaigine being red

And not Eins Color

[pure moss]

I'm trying out weird comps this CA

[umbral crown]

Thats called, cookin

[pure moss]

Someone else did, I just use them

[umbral crown]

Zant: go use my cursed comps

Auto and hope for the best

[void pendant]

So any of these options is fine?

[swift mango]

Scarlet isn't

[pure moss]

how does this look

[raven plover]

ok thanks I will copy

[swift mango]

Scarlet indom may win but not much more chance than ASS indom.

[swift mango]

[raven plover]

so far I only copy comps, after I won my 3rd

maybe I should bring og emma back

still hate SG team cus my SG trash

[pure moss]

ok time to delete

[swift mango]

[pure moss]

I hate sg comp too but I can't make the 5th comp

[swift mango]

[void pendant]

Which would be the best SG team?

[pure moss]

bsoda nayuta tdrake noir rosanna

[void pendant]

I've seen opponents eliminated with just two shots.

[pure moss]

you can try sugar instead of noir or bsoda but I prefer those 3

[raven plover]

sugar bsod noir is better as long as your clip SGs have 40% atk 80% ele its good trust

[void pendant]

I'm going to try that team I showed, since I couldn't beat him with another composition. I'll have to wait for the reset.

I hope my team wins.

[pure moss]

someone help me cook the 5th comp so I can get rid of this useless sg comp

[umbral crown]

even tho he copied my defense exactly guess was just RNG when he won, have not changed anything and lost twice

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

[crystal flicker]

And your name still RooJii

[dense kindle]

Anyone have ca teams for me to copy

-# no Emilia

[eager mountain]

[crystal flicker]

I dont even pass CA this season

[green dawn]

Can someone help me beat these teams?
https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTQ0Mjc2NjE5NDIxODAzODk3MzA=

[umbral crown]

[pure moss]

2nd time request: someone help me cook the 5th comp so I can get rid of this useless sg comp

[crystal flicker]

SG sacc with Rosa and Nayuta

[pure moss]

that's what I'm trying to get rid of

[crystal flicker]

Rosa is good

[pure moss]

yes but that comp has highest lose rate

[crystal flicker]

You need fully invested Rosa

It'll lose, unless she 1 tap enemy's dps

[pure moss]

my Rosa is 10/10/10 full OL5 sr15 doll

[crystal flicker]

Line

[pure moss]

checking

[crystal flicker]

I have 45% ATK and 4x Crit

[pure moss]

43.72 Atk

no crit

[crystal flicker]

thats why

[pure moss]

I gotta invest in other nikke too, can't focus on Rosa

I'd rather build another comp

[crystal flicker]

Prob someone testing Label comp

[pure moss]

I use Label and SW in slow cindy comp

[thin abyss]

If there isn't much of a power gap, these teams should work

[green dawn]

It worked tyvm
Noise got absolutely nuked from cp diff

[real abyss]

got shafted in this reshuffle now im back to diamond

[elder gorge]

I’m a total pvp noob. For SP Arena I usually float around platinum 10-diamond 7 just using my strongest pve units. Looking to start investing resources in 3 specific pvp attack teams to try and move up, but I have no idea where to start. Can anyone recommend me three teams to start investing in based on the units I have?

let me know if i should move to team building

[unique wagon]

what rank is Velvet in pvp

any hidden synergy

prolly C cus Maxwell is there but how does ammo steal work

[keen vapor]

It's fine here

They don't do PVP stuff

[unique wagon]

Velvet steal minimum is 1 ammo right?

[gritty ridge]

Give velvet more time

I cant personally find a use for her but others might

[thin abyss]

You can try the teams I shared a few messages above, I think you have the same nikkes

[elder gorge]

i don’t think i have Trina. also in team two is that Bay (treasure) and Julia (Treasure)?

[keen vapor]

She won't get use

[gritty ridge]

I dont think she will either, but you get some weird interactions sometimes

[thin abyss]

Bay and Laplace
Bay doesn't need a treasure, but Laplace does
If your tactical Vesti has 15% charge speed you can use her instead of laplace

[elder gorge]

who can i sub for Trina on team 3?

[gritty ridge]

Hwat

Thats uh

Not true

[thin abyss]

Xmas Maiden, although it won't have the same burst gen

Try to build Liberalio, she's more flexible than OG Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Trina does more than burst gen in that team

[swift mango]

They yeeted this building.

[keen vapor]

What

[swift mango]

Free stat boost isn't allowed in this economy

[keen vapor]

Sssshhhh

[hardy bison]

My favorite changed his team again, how do I counter team 1 and 3? (sorry for the links) https://prnt.sc/A2GcRKXfFj-e https://prnt.sc/Tf1txffVO71V https://prnt.sc/ZjFbaAj27tou

[plain kayak]

Vel not for pvp

[unique wagon]

That wasnt my question

[thin abyss]

Yeah, but its Scarlet-Jackal, so burst gen is the most important thing Trina offers there

[plain kayak]

Looks like I was mistaken

[keen vapor]

No it's not is the buffing/invincibility to Scarlet that she gives

[thin abyss]

But there are not many teams that can kill Scarlett when she's with Jackal
She's only important when Scarlett is by herself

[keen vapor]

You shouldn't underestimate over 100% attack damage buff

Or negating incoming damage on deficit

[hardy bison]

[wild hemlock]

[keen vapor]

Nayuta Vesti Drake Noir B1 to Kisama that Blanc

Scarlet LaplaceT Blanc Centi jackal ?
Scarlet counter can pretty much solo, only need to keep her alive for it

[wild hemlock]

Can moran+bay burst tank lib nuke?

I ran moran+bay last ca but I don't think I went against a single Lib

[keen vapor]

Moran Moran may outlive lib

But Bay herself can't block lib nuke I've heard

[wild hemlock]

No I know. Like noise+bay dies to Lib. But I'm wondering if Moran+Bay can live with the dmg reduction

[keen vapor]

I can only put my hope in multiple HP bars of Moran

[wild hemlock]

I tried testing last ca and got unlucky to never vs it

[wild hemlock]

Oh and I mean like not just moran. I mean who lives would depend on the others but I was more wondering if like more than moran could live it

Assuming max doll ect ect

[hardy bison]

I am using Vesti and Blanc on team 2, unless you got something for team 2 🤔

[keen vapor]

Scarlet is for team 2

Yes, Bay blocks nuke (or not, you can get feeded a lot to burst faster)
But 3 SGs means they're going to get a lot of Skill 2 counter attack procs

The alternative is just Scarlet Siren Trina their Noah

[hardy bison]

Ok scarlet for Team 2, what about team 1 or 3?

[keen vapor]

First sentence enemy Blanc = team 1 I thought

[strong hull]

Echocho san

[keen vapor]

Maybe you can 3 win if you go Blanc Vesti biscuit Helm Rumani for SG team then Scarlet Siren Trina centi jackal Noah choose whatever variation

But Nayuta team for first

[keen vapor]

I'm going to sleep

[keen vapor]

Become Zwei

[strong hull]

Sibal what🥀

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

It's an official teaser

I don't like LycoReco

Now I sleep

[strong hull]

Its gonna be Eva p3

[heady peak]

for SP Arena... what should be my third team? I have all nikkes necessary....

[swift mango]

Bay+another Defender+Biscuit

[swift mango]

[strong hull]

Play neko atsume 2

[rich quail]

I remember playing the first one

And getting so angry when the fat cat came over and ate all the cats’ food

[covert lintel]

You lied

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/nekoatsume-tubbs-neko-cat-kitty-food-gif-5508445

[ivory violet]

You could try running moran/bay/helm/swha/biscuit for that first team then run noise noah vesti for your team 3

[covert lintel]

@tropic summit i can catch it

[strong hull]

Imagine using sashimi

He came

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

You should have SW invested. Invest in her.

She is good in all games move

[gaunt viper]

Suggestions on an updated SP Arena comp from what ive got built? 2nd photo none are built atm. ik SP def comp is rock paper scissors but still wanted to change it up

[heady peak]

SWH should be invested in .... she's literally used in ALL modes. You even build her the same way regardless of pvp or pve.

[covert lintel]

@swift mango why did his blanc target sw even though his scar still alive and low hp?

[swift mango]

Because his SW HP even slower?

[swift mango]

PvP actually doesn't need much Ele. So You could go for Crit rate and Crit dmg instead. But if you still haven't clear campaign you have to build Ele.

[lunar pawn]

Any suggestions please? #pvp-arena message

My previous setup didn't get me out of league

[swift mango]

It's pretty much just luck, but check LD Union discord for champ teams there, they have high chance to pass league if that's your goal

Or champ team of the jpn whales you could find somewhere here or ask Kisenix

[lunar pawn]

I'm now in LD's union?

[swift mango]

Just need to come there as guess. You don't need to be in their union to lurk there

[lunar pawn]

[swift mango]

I'm also not a member. Just former member and since LD made place for me to keep CA collection there. I helped update it.

[lunar pawn]

@unique mountain help a homie

[covert lintel]

I have my kekw draft teams if you want
But don't expect out of league

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-it-is-ill-take-it-jet-black-mustafa-shakir-cowboy-bebop-i-want-it-gif-24122774

Bless you

[unique mountain]

Server link? Search section in #1253574821573296268

[lunar pawn]

What's the name

[unique mountain]

Search "section" in #1253574821573296268

[ivory violet]

One of my friends made these it's a list of some common teams you'll see. I think the meta is a little different from it but it's a starting point

[lunar pawn]

Bless you

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-sent-a-message-kintsugi-tate-donovan-george-dixon-season2-gif-15581176

[unique wagon]

I need Velvet comps ideas

Good for countering low ammo dps probably

Makes them reload during FB

[covert lintel]

Not updated yet

[wind kelp]

Noah, biscuit, vestiT, helm, noise. How did you beat that team again? I forgor...also at higher cp t like 1200k vs 1100k.

[frank ingot]

how to win against this in sp arena?

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit

[quick lake]

Lud Noah HelmT Siren Velvet
Full Siren DoT dmg

So far i think it may work. dont have good comps to test against

[wind kelp]

Yeah, let's go with this. Curious if nothing else. I got to 8th on one round, so i'm way beyond my goal of "get through preliminary" 😄 Need more units and more juice for big big leagues, so, let's have fun.

[shell hazel]

I gave you a clue or two as well Rail 😛

[rustic sandal]

[elder mantle]

Can someone help me build pvp team

[tropic summit]

nayuta centi rrh rh lib

[elder mantle]

Okay tysm

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/heart-with-hands-heart-hands

[rustic sandal]

Show your bracket. Like, your enemies in Arena.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/stonks-up-stongs-1

[elder mantle]

Like this?

[rustic sandal]

Check rankings.

I'm lead to believe your PvP is bricked.

[rustic sandal]

LMAO.

[elder mantle]

Why is it funny maybe Im a real newbie

[tropic summit]

you on the left (if rosa is available, prefer rosa over RH to kill water codes early on)

[rustic sandal]

Bricked. I was gonna say make a new account so your PvP experience is better, but your units are good.

[elder mantle]

Wdym bricked

[rustic sandal]

No no. It's not about your experience. It's more like your account is very old. And PvP doesn't like you not logging in everyday and playing. The players on your bracket have high levels because of that.

When was this account made? 2023?

[elder mantle]

This is my friend’s account so idk he gave me

[frank ingot]

Thank you for this

[rustic sandal]

@tropic summit is it possible to be reshuffled to a fairer bracket based on your synchro level?

[upbeat dock]

When you create an account, it puts you into a server and battle group with people who made their accounts at roughly the sane time.. so you’re kind of cooked

[glad meteor]

Nae

[quick lake]

just gv up pvp

[glad meteor]

PVE the way

[rustic sandal]

Ah. Alright. Well, you really can't do much about PvP. That part can never be fixed unless you spend millions to catch up to the top players.

Just focus on PvE content like campaign, towers, and raids.

[glad meteor]

Be free from pvp hell, nikke pvp booty anyway

[wind kelp]

NEver give up, never surrender, even when you fail at everything. You die, you learn, you live again, and one day you're at the top

[quick lake]

booty game ✅ sweaty pvp ❌

[upper grove]

Does anyone want to cook CA for me or do I just copy my brackets last winner

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh emilia
• jackal swha blanc centi rrh
• noise rumani cindy xmaiden noah

Notes:

• build vestiTU to upgrade T3

[glad meteor]

When rookie resets and you’re the first to log in

[elder mantle]

So I cant grind gems from pvp?

[wind kelp]

NEver, you log in before next daily reset to grab a higher rank 😄

[rustic sandal]

You still can in SPA...

Like, 300 every 2 weeks at least.

[wind kelp]

You can, just gotta climb to, top 50 i think? In Special Arena, from rookie, no.

[tropic summit]

nice CS% cuz that team would be 2.5RL yet you're 2.2RL

[elder mantle]

Is it still a good way to get gems?

[rustic sandal]

It depends on how much you'll get. Do you have Special Arena unlocked?

[elder mantle]

No and idk how to unlock

[wind kelp]

Honestly? If you're really good, you get 20 pulls a month extra. Somewhat good, around 14-18, then smol effort you can get like, 10 extra pulls. So it's all up to you, but mostly, bottom of bottom and heart and all, it's a passion project 😄

[rustic sandal]

Clear Chapter 11-13

Just focus on clearing as much of Campaign as possible.

[elder mantle]

What should i do after clearing them

[unique wagon]

Lud?

[quick lake]

yes, consumes ammo and P1 tank and taunt

Can replace with Moran i guess

idk, some copium team maybe

[rustic sandal]

Keep going.

Just keep clearing as much of Campaign as you can, until you physically can't progress.

[gaunt viper]

Thank you so much for cooking, i sincerly appreciate it

[elder mantle]

Btw is there a place that I can test my characters?

[rustic sandal]

Shooting Range. You have to join a union. Go to #1253574821573296268 and find one who can adopt you.

[glad meteor]

Most people test teams in rookie arena to practice for attacking/defending in sp arena

[torn obsidian]

@raven plover do you think Ada or Blanc on P3 is better on Jackal team in general?

both are not linked

[raven plover]

is your blanc max core

[torn obsidian]

c3 blanc, lb0 ada

[raven plover]

how about the indom target, lb0 as well?

[torn obsidian]

no indom is c1 on p2

the only thing we're considering is enemy Vesti right?

i'm not sure if there are other threats

[raven plover]

vesti and strong swha, like fahren swha but yea main threat is vesti. gambling vesti p3 better cus ada lb0 and indom target is lb1

[torn obsidian]

sorry typo indom target is c1

so... blanc/ada > ada/blanc?

[gaunt viper]

btw when you say upgrade t3, would Vesti replace xmaiden i assume?

[raven plover]

yea put blanc p3

[torn obsidian]

[raven plover]

good luck for your run

[torn obsidian]

playing against max cores 4.5M CP

[leaden canyon]

what we running for CA boys

[glad meteor]

Can someone test this against scar soda

[spiral onyx]

I see no winning possibility at all with that team lol

[glad meteor]

Quency dies to scar s2. Clip rls lose p2 gen. Then helm nukes scar team

Might throw it against someone in sp

[spiral onyx]

If that Scarlet team has no Jackal or is only barely at 2RL, sure I guess

Main thing is, Query won't die before the second RL

[glad meteor]

Quency double smg and water, I’ve seen her die pretty quick

Main problem is her feed jackal

[spiral onyx]

Purely from Scarlet counterattack and some stray RLs?

[glad meteor]

Scar counter

[spiral onyx]

Maybe in SP Arena but shouldn't in CA

[tropic summit]

she dies within 1RL against properly built scarlet

you can deny RLs from 1RL to 2RL

in fact you may even die slightly before 1RL lands, which can lead to a whiff

[spiral onyx]

Weird tech but I guess if it works it works

[tropic summit]

ye it's SP arena tech but definitely not CA stuff

[spiral onyx]

It's like the 40 ammo Scarlet tech lol

Or however much ammo you need to dodge Siren stun

[glad meteor]

32

[unique wagon]

Consumes ammo?

WHOSE AMMO

[covert lintel]

Now you focus on taking down nozomu

[raven plover]

:bedge:

I hate SG team my SG sobet

[covert lintel]

I won't use sg anymore except pepper

[tropic summit]

in what kind of team you still using pepper

[quick lake]

Lud to expend her ammo

[glad meteor]

Gons

[polar valley]

@tropic summit update: i got her, good for pvp or nah?

[crystal flicker]

no

[novel sage]

Can anyone help me make some special arena teams and the rookie arena

[tropic summit]

pve unit, doesn't have a real spot in pvp

[polar valley]

Ah, what a waste 🥀

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta trina helmt rh draket
• jackal swha blanc centi rrh
• noise siren vestitu laplaceT noah

Rookie

• nayuta helmt vestiTU siren swha

Notes

• build your utilities, especially blanc and jackal asap to ensure your indom team is stronger
• after the above, trina, rumani, centi, noah

[wind kelp]

Asked AI, for fun, to create defense teams for Spa, i don't think there's any worries in automation taking the job of pvp-chat chefs 😄

Team 1: Noah / Biscuit / Jackal / Scarlet: BS / Helm (Treasure)

Team 2: Snow White: Heavy Arms / Red Hood / Centi / Liter / Rapunzel

Team 3:Liberalio / Siren / Noise / Privaty / Vesti: Tactical

I mean, still kinda tempted to run them

[tropic summit]

T1 actually working team with even high burst gen, but would get skipped for the other weak 2 teams
T2 uses RH as B2
T3 doesn't have B2

score 5/10

https://klipy.com/gifs/at-least-you-tried-trash

[wind kelp]

Kinda what i told it as well, requires more training, and salt 😄

[clear knot]

anybody have a link to a champion arena guide with up to date sample teams?

[leaden canyon]

there are sample teams in the pins here

#pvp-arena message

[raven plover]

Im trying another label team, 5th gonna be SG team

if my label gets 1 more atk line tomorrow maybe I can run no SG

[crystal flicker]

Imagine having Label

[covert lintel]

Just kekw 2rl team

[covert lintel]

You can get it

[tropic summit]

what in the world did you cook there

[swift mango]

Better than me, haven't cooked yet.

[tropic summit]

what do you mean cook... don't you just resubmit the same as last 20 seasons?

[swift mango]

I do random new cook every season but the more champ team I collected the less option I have to make new cook.

[leaden canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1461536027339395123/deck_35.jpeg?ex=697d5dfe&is=697c0c7e&hm=3809399503fbc161acff221beeb5b689c8f1284c0ef0f2257b5ce17565f67e27&

anything tweaks I should make for ca

jackal does have quantum equipped

[crystal flicker]

You sure that Rumani wont steal indom?

[leaden canyon]

it shouldn't with biscuit there, most teams have enough splash and the only other one would be sg team which would get stuck on biscuit

although it did lose to sg team because my swha killed a p1 drake instantly so rosanna went off sooner

[swift mango]

to be frank it's limited to 1 new team, the rest could be reused ones.

[tropic summit]

ye that's what i thought too

[crystal flicker]

SW

[swift mango]

where's ele?

[crystal flicker]

Should be able to get 24 Crit and 45ATK for ideal

What is Ele?

[swift mango]

Something you wanted against bosses.

[crystal flicker]

I'm going ATK CRIT CDMG for her

I have SG DoroS for water weak

[swift mango]

I guess it's fine. Another one who could ignore PvE for their investment

[quick lake]

Was i pinged @tropic summit

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

I need more Rocks before I can worry about SR frame

[swift mango]

I did lost last Qualifier partly because my SW 3 ele max skill 1+2 instead of 777 0 ele.

[covert lintel]

B1 single nuke
B2 all nuke
B3 SEVEN DWARVES!