#pvp-arena
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Do they just copy that too lmao
They did lol that why I changed to the Cindy crew
At this point it’s a wash
This a lesson to never put your main attacker as you defense boys
Keep em guessing
Pretty hard to win defenses if they have all the characters to counter your stuff
Rosanna pretty annoying to break through on defense tho maybe u can build her if u have
Although it will be quite expensive
I’m already building her up but slowly. I’m focusing on Moran instead now. I’ll get back to her soon
best defence is || credit card ||
Ye Moran good choice too, sometimes she can win against indom
I’m betting on a good treasure
Guess since ur still lower level very defensive durable comp with big invest not as easy to run
@north brook what do you mean not easy to run?

Like helm noah comp that lives any indom, guess at ur lvl will still get broken
U can maybe try this comp when u get Moran built, it made me undefeated on def with it but then I switched to Rosanna teams to be more annoying 
You mean heal with helm?
Me when people don't build Rosanna 
@fathom rock too many NIKKE too little time
But its semi cp pad semi tank
@oak hatch alright point taken. At this point it’s a Rosanna game lol
Idk i dont think these teams been changed in last 6 months xd
Yeah it’s a tough team but my red hood is still a WIP unfortunately
Im sure moran swole ver could be stronger
Both her and Moran need 7/10/10 except Rosanna also need 4 attack lines and sr15 
I level daily if the resources avail
Its not like theres more campaign and i cant beat only one yet on hard
I got no resource

It alr been all done
Now we steeel
I just got her
But i mean ive ran out of battle data before so i usually keep 200 boxes

one more copy to get her treasure if it’s broken
I need to get credits moreso thats straight broke issue
Moran as she is ... is broken, now treasure will make her mega broken
Yeah probably a must have
@craggy troutnzy let’s go! Should drop a copy in the shop on update right? I got the ched
Mainly depends on how they change her kit
Yeah u can buy favorite item dupes with 200 of those tickets
Moran been getting better constantly with more doll mat invest, more dps with high burst gen, as her only downside is no gen
The treasure could be
Re-enter b1
+10% def
Or it could be
Passive Dmg reduction buff
Dmg buff on burst

Good to go then just need the doll and the heavy grind for maintenance kits
Why is jackal played in pvp and considered top tier?
Burst gen, pseudo dr
Moran b1 buffer as well soon surely
Whats dr?
She is clip rl so high base burst gen
She punishes high hit count enemies by giving more burst gen the more she gets hit
She links with 2 highest attack nikke which help her get hits for more bgen and can help survivability
Only issue is dolls mats so hard to accumulate quickly tho
gonna need to get her and centi from sr5 to 15
Guess there actually is nayuta indom now too but it cant support team
Bro.. I got a blue doll on centi too fml
Every day i pray for drake event 2
I see so she just does a lot as 1 unit then? Does her burst matter or not necessarily
Ready for privaty tho. Not expecting much but I have anis ss so maybe something good?
Jackals burst only exists
It exists to go to full burst ig
Her burst buff is rarely useful
Okay thats good to know
Regardless tho any nikke with crazy burst gen will be meta in pvp 
Her being a b1 means she can be the b1 on a team but her burst doesnt do much of anything
Theres more b2/b3 in pvp so jackal being b1 can help
Cuz my current rookie arena team was this with lib>jackal but running jackal should just improve this overall then right? Rh still is the b1 for the dmg buff
Hope they do one soon 
A lot of people use helm to heal in that set
I dont have thelm unfortunately
Shes a wip rn. Got her 1*
Still could work her heal is crazy
Ye should be better, lib not doing much off burst and jackal has better burst gen
Shes also not really geared up at all tho.
But regardless this jackal>lib change improves the team overall right? Or would something like ada in that slot be more beneficial? Trying to understand pvp a bit
Thanks bro
Also I know rookie arena doesnt matter to most people but I was chilling at top 2-3 before reshuffle but now I have hella whales so I kinda wanna see if I can keep up a bit
When you get her up to speed that team works at a high CP deficit. I know from experience 
Thats good to know. I really want thelm as well but the game just didnt give me helm at all had to get her through the bonus recruit for the 1st time
Build that pity in standard recruit
That should be priority numero uno. For now at least..
I never pull on standard unless I got the tickets. I have been holding my gems 
It’s worth it for helm
I dont wanna miss out during the potential collab thats coming up though
I have 50k gems and 88 tickets right now so theoretically it should be fine. But also wanna have gems for random seasonal units getting a rerun like xlud
That’s what matters for SP I think. Having the counters
Yeah its true I definitely need more good units for pvp. Thelm would be a good one but also dont have noah or biscuit either
I spam the high quality records in the body label shop whenever I get enough to try to get PvP units
Got quite a few from there
I do have quite a lot of the general units like centi rumani xmaid but havent built them enough except centi
I’m assuming vesti and SW have higher attack than red hood? That’s the only thing I’d check
No re enter
My bad you’re changing it nvm
Xmaiden not that necessary to build imo unless u wanna use for ca

Tvesti yes shwa no
I see thats good then. I spent so many gems on getting her 😭
I’ve haven’t played that exact team but wouldn’t you want to move red hood up in that case just for extra survivability?
Could be the difference in winning a close match
Same then ended up not using her much
still a good pickup nonetheless if u run out of units to use for ur teams
How does that affect my.team?
Because jackal is linked to red hood and vesti so you might want SW a little further back to take a tiny bit less damage
Idk I haven’t played the team
How does jackal link work exactly?
I cant change that tho unless I remove rh completely right?
No just swap her with SW
Yeah so your vesti and red hood will get the defense bonus and p3 take more damage than p4 from what I understand
U can check who is linked in shooting range, when u have attack lines on nikkes it wont update on stat screen
Oh I see what you mean if you want jackals def boost on SW then yeah she’d have to have higher attack than RH
So does the position matter in jackal linking or not? I dont really understand
Yeah because p3 takes more damage. But it’s not much
P1 will take the most damage then it goes down the line from what I’ve seen
Okay so then rh gets less dmg cuz of jackal so if I out her p3 shes just tanking dmg more
So my other units can survive betyer
Sounds smart thanks 💪 
How good is label vs scarlet and cindy
Apparently really good cuz she reduces elec dmg
Glad I can help someone here off my limited knowledge lol
Yeah she’s great against Cinderella and electric teams
Shes not popping up ill just hope for normal recruit 🙁
How strong is soda in arena, she seems really strong but no one has a team gor her
I usually put my linked unit in p1 so they can get extra burst gen but since u have nayuta there and she can survive on her own then its kinda wasted
Yea exactly nayuta is in p1 cuz of the indom
Nayuta is a great p1 I need to level her up too 😭
Nayuta carries me hella in pvp
Yeah dude
Top 1 is synch 301 when Im 207 
When you start using blanc it opens more possibilities with the indom tho
She’s good until opponents start countering with blanc indom and siren 
Oh ur rank 1 guy is in the same ca as me
I’ve seen him before
Helm on that team will help your siren problem
I got the whale lol he has rrh c7 and shit like that
Soon 
Yeah double ur cp 
Yea not even a chance of me beating him. Guy above uses a similar team to me but has synch 244 so that sucks as well
These were my teams for SP.
If I start working on blanc could I put her on the scartrina team to indom scar or does this not work?
Also if I level up rumani I can probably put her over naga right?
Scar indom not too good tbh especially since everyone building her with low ammo now to avoid siren stun
She needs more ammo to use indom well
Snow or vesti i dom is way better
*indom
I see good to know
I’d get scarlet seems a little slow
If you have the resources try to speed her up a little or it’s an easy win
They’ll deal too much damage to scarlet
I dont know what sorta "archetype" to run then cuz t1 is like get burst and have tvesti nuke t2 is scartrina but it just loses lol and t3 is nayuta carry team
It works well enough to get into chall 9-10 but I dont stick around there too long cuz people can build to beat my 2 teams pretty easily
Speed up scarlet and indom vesti like they’re saying is what I’d do
How would I speed up scarlet? Also I didnt use jackal in any of those teams cuz her cp was trash then but I got her 444 4ol r15 for now
@oak hatch what’s the tea on low ammo scarlet?
I’d do a glass cannon fast scar team, vesti indom and sw with nayuta probably since nayuta brings the burst gen down and sw can make up for that
32 ammo or less in shooting range to not get stunned by siren
Shwa is crazy burst gen + she has a lot of cp for padding too so thats helpful. My scarlet has no OLs yet just 444 sr5
She take cover when she use up her ammo so siren stun misses
Yeah so she’ll just get destroyed in p1 that slow
Dang thats really interesting
I usually get destroyed regardless cuz cp anyway 
@oak hatch no kidding 
Yeah good way to beat siren sometimes and can save u in ca
60% or less ammo line should get u to 32 ammo or less I think
Wdym
Just 1 ol ammo line with 60% or less
I’m not sure I understand the goal is less ammo?
If its too low u prob reload early then pop up when she stuns u
Or the more ammo just lands right on stun
Well she gets attack buffs from using ammo so u don’t want the minimum and u don’t want too much
If I fix the cp by OLing would these teams be better than I showed before? This is the first time I made teams from scratch so I could be ass
Ah lib should move p2 cuz of jackal def boost
Even with the indom? Dang
Put anis there to tank
I wanted anis there first but I thought she might steal indom
They’ll kill her before indom
Do u have biscuit?
Try to tank with anis might work. She’ll die but you don’t need after burst
If anis bursts then it means you’re in better shape to win anyway
After drake cp tanks dramatically cuz no OL gear. I know Moran and Noise are good units in pvp too but havent invested into them. Im working towards the Moran treasure now though
Indom is security
Fair point actually
T3 looks good? I tried to have a nayuta fast burst comp to just win but a lot of my burst gen units are being used on the other teams so I threw in anchorim. I could maybe also run xmaid if she helps more with burst gen over like ada cuz theoretically I think rh burst + nayuta wipe is already enough damage
@tropic summit time to main last rite for a bit
She was really good with tvesti but Im running indom with her now so she was still left to be used
She has a lot of cp for me so it would be a waste if I cant slot her in I thinj
Nah the teams are pretty strong imo
Noice thats good to hear 💪
I will work towards OLing those units then
No one on my server uses anchor but she has a crazy heal if it done right
I think when she receives heal it stacks and you get a huge heal
Nayuta heals too right? As does ada altho thats lifesteal I think? Idk how those affect eachother then with anchor
But that could randomly be cooking if it works well
Yeah with nayutas heal might do something really cool
I don’t use nayuta much does she just heal herself or whole team?
She should heal everyone? Memory absorbtion triggers every 3 sec and when memory absorb takes place she shares hp recovery equally and then when M.A. takes place she affects self to heal 25% hp of caster HP
So if I understand it correctly every 3 sec she will heal the team by 5%
Ah neat well if that happens before anchors burst then you’ll get a nice boost to the heal probably heal back to 100
Dang thatd be clean
Super clean. That will be nasty to deal with
Okay okay we out here Im ready for next season SP 
for pvp? nayuta situational
If it works I might steal it lol
she isn't fast burst gen and she offers no real defence beyond stopping herself dying
she can work more so for attack options or for cp pad 3rd team for SPA (at least she won't die that easily)
He’s basically just using as a tank
aoe nuke on opponent team will just kill everyone except for nayuta lol
if you run on defence team then I'd not expect much from it, easily countered
Yea thats true u really want to be bursting first with her
and that means no noah or blanc
Oh I’m tripping nayuta is bursting not anchor
because they are b2
Hmm yes this I understand really well
Nayuta is burst 2 right?
Right lol
Well I just went soft
You’re gonna need to turn that to landscape mode
Ah ur right it would only affect thid then
In that case anchor is kind of pointless here
I honestly dont understand this skill too well either
@hippos yeah I get your point
She was there originally for burst gen only 
Oh maybe that’s the only you need
Hmm yeah I’d say fight someone with that team and see what happens
Like I dont think the burst skill is the one that has synergy with potency of healing
I don’t think her burst gen is crazy high but that heal is insteresting with nayuta
Its her passive when entering burst. I guess if I had thelm u could make her the b3 and have it replace ada/shwa for even more healing
But then u probably want some defence too so u dont just instantly die as well so Im not sure 
I think the team is still gonna do alright as is but like hippos said it’s easy to counter for a defense team
All 3 are still strong so they’ll have to spread their resources
Yea I can see that I think as a whole Ill struggle on def for now with key units missing (noah biscuit thelm)
Yea thats important my prev set was just not enough cuz they could focus beating 2 teams cuz 1 was free
Focus on characters you have that can counter the ones you don’t
Yeah you gotta have a good spread to force them to do the same
Good luck my dude. Let me know how that anis team works I’m curious if it slays
Anchor you meant right?
Both but I’m curious about the anis tank indom. Theoretically it should work
Oooh yeah thats interesting too
It’s adaptable haha
I need like HELLA OLs tho to get these teams set up CP wise. Most people I fight are like 210k cp usually with their highest being 260ish
🐳 🗡️ 
Atta boy


just finished power plateau area, good sh*et 
@oak hatch I made some changes and scarlet is sitting at 31.95% max ammo. I’ll give this a shot I guess. Do you the team they’re using for this one?
Moran, Trina, scarlet?
evil!
what is your uid rail I want to add you to friends
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Wheel

I woke up this morning and my factory was out of juice and all my production had halted overnight lmao
so today I set out to learn the factory systems better
ye today i started messing around for the next tier product needed... i took a glance again at the clock a moment later only to realize i had spent 1 hour and 30 minutes playing factory man 
it's nothing amazing I'm sure but I don't have any real deficits going on and I'm producing heal pots to sell
producing this bad boy was fun
I want to get out of needing the b potions
haha samesy 😄
I have space to make more of the A capsules quicker but I need to unlock the base in power area
and connect some more mines up
eventually this one gonna be next step
I'm making some of these as well, I need to work out what gear to craft initially my characters are all naked
but I have enough to make some level 50 gear
been running on blue gear for a while myself 
Scar Trina soda/rosa/rh + 2 clip rl
didn't know what matched which classes lmao
I'll just dive straight to basic level 50 stuff I think
Hippo Factory manager

i didn't min/max yet, but i've been sticking to the chars main stat
gonna eventually need to read about recommended gear/builds but that's when i hit lvl 80 anyway 
No pvp there?
not as far as i know
don't really see how they could fit pvp in this game... maybe in clearing speed for difficult content? 
Then game is not for me
nah no pvp

it's for ppl who like building supply chains, collecting waifus and some ok story/exploration
yeah basically that
the combo works well so far

ye one of the first things i did once that unlocked was spamming friend requests
you can get massive amount of credits with stock exchange
So me as supply chain manager playing the game
yep

the dispatch missions seem a bit lame by comparison at the depots
time to change job from pvp chad to factory chad 
maybe I'm missing something but elastic good trading feels much more rewarding
i've transfered all the jobs so far
if i can delegate i will 
you need to do it from the quest menu, after accepting press J then "transfer job"
also game was like "teleporting will lower integrity" lol, first thing I did was teleport 😄

you save up time on trivial walking around quests
Maybe its about time
you could try it rosy nothing to lose really

ye if you like it you will like it within the first 1 or 2 hours
if you dislike it then uninstall - I didn't feel inclined to go spending any money either
Maybe this weekend gonna give a try
@shell hazel more stuff to do 
good god they released a full game in 1.0 
not sure when I'll catch ya but won't be tonight off to sleep in a mo
a wise choice, i'll sleep in 2-3 hours probably cuz i fell asleep from 19 to 23
Managed to end up #2 yet again. Thanks to all of you up in this mother for your help!
1.4
What sync are you

538

🐟
Waos, strong
the f2p way


Indeed, sometimes i wish i had more level but since i have no issues in rookie defeating the 558 and 542 as 487 then i forget it
But still would be nice 
you don't need levels, you need to trust the process

wait let me get velvet then it can eos
if we use a re-enter B2 with Velvet, does that mean she can steal 3 bullets instead of 2 

big brain tech

They meta was always re re re enter 
steal until opponent cannot attack
in a different parallel universe ye
trust the process
Rosy in 2027: EoS
@gaunt pulsarmay I dm you pls-pls?
Any info release on the new favorite items? (Kit)
wait, today is reset?
shit I still has one team I want to test on my C1. If he left my bracket I would be damned.


SWHA will be available in normal pull after this update?
oh waos, what are you gonna do? Your 400000 gems gonna be imported for Nikke 2.0?
Give us treasure update already 
they are waiting for me to get lb2 moran

Too late, EoS during next maintenance.
velvet booba powercreep 
you are now cursed with bad luck thanks blood
🤷♀️
next time, Trust the process

But velvet seems good for UR , charge dmg buffs for nayuta and sbs she is a nice off burst mostly ro use mast in other teams
Feels like Mmast out buffs velvet?
Higher atk and crit rate and reload speed
Willl have to seee
Problem with charge damage is
Lib sbs and nayuta all have a additional effect damage that’s part of their dps on top of their charged shots
So charge damage dosnt buff the entirety of their kit
Powercreep b2 buffer again?
You will get matched with me
You can test all you want later if that happen
I'm curious about this effect on pvp
Steal bullets
barely does anything 
steal 5% at start and 5% at B2
on most char it's steal 2 bullet
Whooping 30 bullets from no Ammo MG. 
watch this trigger siren gen bug

well Velvet can counter SAnis user 
they will lose 1 burst gen tier if they rely on SAnis 5th shot to get 100% burst gauge 

That's not even 2rl team so slower it to 2.5rl is fine.
Also, will 5% ammo actually reduce 1 from 5?
well it should round up like anything else

Well most stuff don’t round I mean more like min value.
Like how 100% dmg reduc you still take 1 dmg min
velvet might be a guinea pig for SU to release strong nikke with similar ability
Imagine her ammo steal is random amount from each char 
Not 5% per char, 5% from team total
Then some char might actually get to 0 ammo
Hey, what was the breakthrough CS for Vesti? %4?
Like poliT -> nayuta pipeline? Mbe
If there were more units like this mbe u could stack it and have it do sth?
Uhm wtf some guy has my Gmail as their recovery gmail account?
Can they take my Gmail by that trick?

Nikke top it's 2-5%
Some guy argue with his chart that it's 4.5%. (not really different from 5) 
Use a yubikey to protect your shit, remove all phone authentication
Wdym between %2-5 
How do they know what I draw to open my phone with? 
2 or 5
On Nikke deck this lightning sign means %5 for Vesti?
No, this sign mean 15%+

And the number actually only true at 21%
Or 18%
Idk Vesti in Nikke.to can be wrong
depends on how much energy is added, you can just do it yourself, it's + 7,8% energy on 2rl at 2-5%cs and extra 7,8% on 21%
8-11-15 is good enough already if you are not too pedantic and trying to get that 3rd shot at 2rl timeframe
Yeah. Our fights are 50-50 lmao
Man I wish I can gap him.
Wait he moved his units around.
Cindy is P1 now.
Oh wait doesn't this go the other direction?
So SHWA is P1?
you shoot p5 mostly because team full of sr

and now he has swha with sr15 doll there, so 17% dmg red
also cindy at p1 is skipped by units, your nayuta gonna shoot jackal
I'm cooked I guess.
Not gonna bother fighting a 50-50.
Similarly annoying.
I wonder if moving around cubes will save me.
I still don't have Tempering gdi.
can try soda on that one instead of label, rng stun his nayuta and wipe him, but might still get hit by unbuffed libe nuke

What are the odds I stun any of Nayu, SHWA or Cindy for a win?
your best bet to stun lib+cindy, then you actually might come out almost unscathed because you wont stall him but force his b3 to be swha, and she is dead from your libe before she can shoot
stunning nayuta+anything stalls his b2 and allows you to wipe with libe too, but pretty sure he still would have time to come out of stun and send his own libe nuke, she just gonna be dead when it lands
your worst scenario is jackal+cindy/swha stun - doesn't change anything for him
So I'm just cooked.
can test 🤷♂️
What's the full team?
same as here but soda instead of label, he is 2rl, you almost 2rl
Where's my B1?
soda b1
I just remembered this, thats why I was remembering Vesti as %4 
p4 p5 is fine, they dont shoot here
Oh. You're talking about REGULAR SODA
yeah
I only have BSoda.


You can use Siren if you have her

it's in his name 

atp idk if that's sarcastic, genuine, or insulting.
Lmao my bad 
I really never look at names past first word
There we go.
How about Sakura then 
I never used her myself tho so there is that 
could be fun
Which Sakura?
basic one
OG one
I have her.
at skill lvl 5 it 71%, and i wouldn't advise to level it to 10 just to test 
Probably not, you can check nikke.gg for values
should still reduce it decently, also helps you to reduce dmg from nayuta as she also wind.
Funny cube
Yeah, actually you can leave SW for another team as well since you won't need to burst that fast now (but doesn't matter as attacker if other team is also good enough)
And you may want to burst with helm instead
It's expensive because it needs burst and use burst manual.
Unlike label doesn't need to burst and use normal skill manual.
Aight.
Maybe just Bay then?
You have Bay?
wont work against lib
Why not?
@swift mango I am kinda confused, why nikke deck shows as 2.5rl while nikke.top shows as 3.5rl 
5 is enough, dont waste, with sr 15 doll you add 17% to 71 and temp could help even more
To the guy who said Helm should burst instead of Libe, I lost. Screw you. You owe me 100 Gems.
this is 2.5rl, vertical blue line is what measured, not when your burst happens, nikke deck doesn't account for that and just shows you when you reach 100% energy, same for blue vertical line on nikke top
Would Libe wipe Cindy though? Probably not.
Welp I wasn't expecing Cindy burst 
Also fair 
IT WAS CINDY BURST. YOU PRICK! I SHOULD'VE PUT LABEL INSTEAD.
You're making me lose points. 
Oooh ok, thanks
you killed libe with helm
would've been her if she survived
Literally pick your poison situation 
Yeah. Jin's fault for telling me to burst Helm instead of Libe.
I'll try tomorrow with Libe burst.
Actually if you burst with Lib and survive enemy Lib, you probably win
The thing is Lib has a delay, so even if you burst faster that delay might be enough for enemy lib to "burst"
But I am not sure
Can try to burst slower. Just need to b1 before enemy b3
How can we arrange that?
I'm too dumb for this. Let's call the resident tracer of rails.
you're already in literal god hands with @glad meteor
he's master chef super ultra class
I think my brain is wired backwards since to me nikke.top is so much easier to understand than the spreadsheet or nikke deck 
Okay. We need a slower team than Siri. Slow enough so my Sakura can burst before their Libe, and my Libe can counter wipe.
holy F the sakura strats 
we're reaching further into copium with yuki's box 

Indeed we are.
I'm doing any niche and obscure strategies that were abandoned just to win.
the good thing is that the team is 2.5RL right?
how about we just ultra buff vestiTU nukeroni
le box: #pvp-arena message
Imagine kill lib but then jackal ady b1 so nayu cindy burst
i dunno chances are the whole team dies to this minus their nayuta
the problemo is surviving nayuta 3 palms in the face afterward i guess
at least it's a non buffed nayuta B2 tho
Interesting
I was thinking of switching helm for crown here
@rustic sandal unleash your ultra buffed vestiTU upon their mortal bodies and test your limits
if lib is linked you hit for ele weak too
dmg goes stonks
My ultra buffed 4/7/7 3/4 OL R15 VestiTU.
does she have some atk% OL?
nayuta is helping you wipe anyhow dw
nayuta B2 is around 40-60% HP of enemy team
vestiTU as low invested as she can be will hit barrage + nuke, i think expecting 40% of enemy HP via that should be reasonable
LMAO
record it and yolo, check CP you're not in deficit but i guess you won't be
I don't wanna spend gems anymore. 
oh you already used 5 attempts, tomorrow it is 
I even bought 3 cuz copium hits hard.
I wanna jump in front of a Rapture firing squad.
the day you unlock blanc and jackal you gonna sh*t on them 
Scary at first, but yeah
you playing atm with like 10% of your power

I wanna jump in front a bunch of heretics 
Jackal
Blanc
Noah
Rumani
Trina
Biscuit
Siren
Moran
Missing all of them.
so many SSS and SS rank in there 
Ok, i think that does it for SwolWhite for now, OL lines and such wise. Need to get into rerolling %'s but, and equipment is only at level 4, but otherwise.
Shittiest box ever and is still cooking CH1.
I won't be able to do that tomorrow.
They're gonna add 7 whales to my bracket.
maybe you're going to be the whale who gets isekaied, never stop believin'
Isekai me to weak team pls.
Oh, oh no, i just noticed the charge damage line, fek :p
@tropic summit May I ask something? This is from an old conversation.
When I give these values on nikke.top it doesn't reach 2RL tho while on nikke deck just flash sign on Vesti enough for 2RL. What I am missing here 
i recently found out with blood that 5%CS ensures 2RL over 4%CS, albeit it's just a (few) frame slower, so you go from 2RL to 2.2RL
not sure how accurate/inaccurate that is, but if you wanna go at it with some sort of ensurance, get 5%CS or higher
nikke.neck is probably accurate, because iirc 5-8%CS on this team is definitely 2RL, or at least in time for B2 to land, which is what you want (noah)
i lack data but i think 4% is still sufficient for B2 to be in time for enemy B3
What does the 4th line of numbers mean?
Wait. What does each line represent?
I know the first line means 100% 2RL
What about the 53-63 and 17.75%-21.3%?
1st line RL threshold
2nd line the amount of burst gen you make (100% ensures you hit that threshold)
3rd line is bullet feed
4th line is feeded %, e.g. an enemy team will earn 17% burst gen via feed at 2RL. If they're for example 90% to 2RL, they'll promote to 2RL via feed
What does bullet feed mean?
It's time
that's important when dealing against scarlet or units that procc via bullet count (nero, jackal)
the less bullet feed, the less you make them stronger/help them build burst
So... when they get hit, they gain burst gen?
in general aim for teams with least feed possible
if you're hitting jackal linked units or jackal herself, ye
scarlet does produce a minimun amount on her own when proccing s2 aswell
0,30% per hit
I like how convoluted PvP in this game is lmao.
oh god it happened 
Meanwhile, Blue Archive PvP is all about RNG on who will cast their skill first or if your student moves on the right spot.
most of these "gimmicks" is just SU lack of interest in QoL or fixing their garbo code, which then eventually became "meta"
I'm washed
Imagine if PvP is hardcoded 60 FPS. 
Looks like nothing is very certain right? Its all trail and error by community. Including nikke deck and nikke top
Just to be clear, when nikke deck says 2rl, it means where on nikke top? Its 1 or 2? With %5 CS its so freaking close to stun I am not even sure if its enough for b1 to burst
https://prnt.sc/oreF3NyOSmzg New team keep showing up, how do I counter this set up?
Whoa! That's more complicated. What are those graphs?!
ye that looks like 2.2RL alright, B1 is slightly before stun, which happens at 2RL B2
2RL line is when a p1 normal launcher's attack with 0 cs landed.
Then flash sign doesn't mean %5 cs for vesti at least?
@grand plaza at the end of the day what matters in your team is that you're on B2 already when opponent is trying to B3
Its nikke.top, more confusing at first but actually make things more clear when you understand a bit more
ye 5%-8%
AAAH. MY EYES.
What do those graphic lines and dots mean now?
And why your graph is so much wider 
burst timings, siren stun timing, all based on CS% you add to units
There's even timings for Rosanna and Siren stun. Woooow.
i've had some leftover CS%, vestiTU is on 8% and helmt is on 8%
Red or blue vertical line = when burst gauge charged full.
Dot = b1 b2 b3
replicate with yours and doublecheck you B2 before enemy B3 @grand plaza
ideally have noise B1 before siren stun, but from ur previous screen it already is like that
Kinda out of topic but, does helm CS even matters?
it does for 2.5RL, not as much for 2RL, but it will get you 1.8-1.9RL if your team was natural 2RL to begin with
that can be relevant when messing with siren stun and having your B2 resistant to stun
in a very general sense, having CS% always helps
some matchups where you'd naturally lose because countered could be turned around just because you bursted first
Hmm I was wondering if I can go cheap and just focus on ele atk for pve stuff
insane CS% invest like keripo, for example, can get him to be 1.5RL on teams that would normally be 2RL
ye you can and should, pvp in this game doesn't need you to have 15-20%CS
most matchups are counterable even if you've little to no CS%
(for now anyway)
I was quite lucky with vesti today, cs values are low as well so I can make it %15
oh that's more than good enough for her
atk and ele are also in a good range
make sure she has at least 2 ammo tho
that's relevant for when you run her indommed
reloading during indom would be a death sentence
Idk I can maybe increase helm cs as well instead of atk considering too much atk can brick some team comps when she steal buff
ye i also keep helmt on low atk%, 10-20% can be enough
Oops.
Why the extra 2 ammo?
fix it asap if you using her indommed 
enough to not reload during 10s of indom
dw yuki, in your case you can worry about that once you unlock blanc... 
Oh. Okay. Idk how to fix that.
Chest and gloves maybe.
Is 1 black ammo line enough for +4?
Nah I am using her like this, still a problem tho both for pvp and pve
I wonder if a single ammo line suffice, so I can just work on head and be done with it
When is Moran T update?
in general you want 2 ammo OLs for 60% increase (lvl10 line)
black OL is lvl 15, for 85%, so you'd still be a bit off
About 2 weeks later
well it helps, from 0% to 60% is still allowing you to at least not reload too soon after shield comes up
keep in mind she'll lose against mirror vestiTU if she's unable to lethal before enemy does (e.g. if enemy doesn't reload unlike you)
If u gonna use vesti at pve, ammo is more important.
So how many % do I need for +4?
Yeah I guess I will go for head later and give up one atk, ele or cs. Probably cs as I can reach %8-10 with chest and gloves
Second ammo would be too expensive tho
My vesti has no ammo, and using her in pve was total pain.
Mine had %100 this morning but I sacrificed them for some ele, atk and... hitrate 
Try to read better.
It's 2.5rl right on here. Wasted my time to check the site because you only screenshot a part.
Cant resist
Use her with Crown only
Sorry 

don't apologize to this booly @swift mango 
Rail kinda stuck on my mind, why its bad with indom? If anything isn't it simply less relevant? Since I am alive for 10 sec anyway
it's relevant because you need to be dealing dmg during indom, if you're reloading, enemy has the chance to survive or sustain
some comps are especially tanky via noise/moran
and you actually need the full length of indom to be lethal
namely moran noah comps for the most part
Hmm ok just be as online as possible
Well even with 0 ammo campaign is pretty ok tbh, thanks to Crown
But I can later try to get one ammo for pvp in enchange for a cs
4 ele 3 atk 2 cs 1 ammo

my vesti i sso far from being built 
need at least 16% cs to hit 18% with charge speed cube
i think thats where the breakpoitn was
Most of my builds hit 2-2.5rl with 8% 
Red is just another shade of Blue.
@hollow lagoon@swift mango@tropic summit you think he got tired after getting atked successfully 5 times?
I think he’s working over time at work so u will deal with him +20 sync in a week
tbh if he changes the team he's just helping you practice
yeah, the other guy in spa has receeded so im getting rusty
funny enough im the one atking near reset. he usually finishes about 6 hours before reset
rookie is a mode you should just do your 5 attempts and move on to do something else, unless you got things to test out 
like a normal human being 
rewards are near the same for top ranks and up to what... rank 8 or 12? you could play on the last 2 days and be 1st
I do mine at reset ish unless it’s the first day
i mean i was pretty chill with rookie until he decided to go all out on me
First day I do before I sleep
before that i didnt atk him.
and he avoided me
I try to not poke the same person more than twice
same. it was like he was saying
im lonely, play with me
could've ignored him, if he sees you bite he'll bite back, that's how ppl with ego do rookie anyhow
get 1 win and fight someone else, sends enough of a message
Kek I remember being farmed for a month and I just got sick of it
i dont give a fq about his ego. losing in rookie is not the end of the world for me
thats more SPA 
if you didn't give a f*k you wouldn't have unleashed 5 attempts on him tho 
if he really wanted to beat me hed have gone for 25% CP superiority
ultimately rookie is small e-peen arena, people colors can show there
i didnt before that pic. usually hed atk me 1-2 times and id go about my day. but he atked me about 1 hour before season end so i tried to salvage what i could
after that it was, ok buddy you wanna play, lets play
Some mfker named hakotoro farms me 5x a day every day, and when mana releases I cooked a comp that turned his defender comp into Swiss cheese and I farm him back, and I never changed my def so he dosnt know what I’m sending to keel him, and when I caught up to his sync it was dorover
oke but why keep 5 attempts before reset happens, means you care... 
point is, don't say you don't care when you clearly cared enough
no, im just lazy.... ive had a few days where i completely forgot and wasted 5 attempts
fight him once to show you can beat him at any time, then just use your other 4 attempts on whoever
the moment you use 5 attempts on the same person it sends a different message
i only atk the top 2 players.
and the message states clearly you care
@tropic summit I’m petty enough that when I out synced the mfker that farmed me, I reset to still farm him until he quit
I was sad that he quit tho, all my still remaining hatred has no where else to go
i mean if i cared that much id be atking him only. but i care about being efficient on my points gained
I see u only touch 3 people
cause those said 3 people were rank 2
These mfkers need to stop copying eachother’s profiles
i atked the rank 1, failed so i moved onto rank 2
It’s like they know I poke every person in top 2-6 once so they copy each other and hope I double one the same guy
Which I some times does

I think they figured out the time I hit so the actual number 2 guy hit after I do so he can dodge my daily poke
mix it up. atk them earlier to keep them on their toes
Why would I?
Current bracket can’t threatening me
They treat me as the daily poke of Mother Nature
Basically a environmental effect at this point
entertainment
that's good, reasonable
Nah man I get more entertainment if I go through arena quickly and chat with @tropic summit
ready for korean boi to come in your CA like a wrecking ball? 

btw what server you chose for AKEF?
Shiet
europe/'murica
you playing it too? 
rip. you will be missed
it was a choice between 110 ping or 230 ping for me
I play 1 gatcha 
ah ye not too much of a difference at that point
i keep getting notifications from discord that you are playing AKEF
that i should msg you "wanna play"?
discord keeping track of you like a stalker 
Looks like I sync to 595 on Friday reset
i dunno arknight almost feels like a whole game rather than gacha
Zantarath why am I your sister again?
Ask @tropic summit
It’s ok sis just chill
nope still dunno lol
Me neither
right - enough internet - good luck with your shuffles later 
Oh noes
weekend approaches, survive
i should be working atm and yet i'm typing to zant and eating cake
Uh, I recognise those names, you in my bracket Zlaw? 
i remember you posting cursed af meals tho, how did this one look like
I started with this
whats your IGN?
Same as here NixFinn
never seen you before tbh
Actually not sure if I have Zomi in my friends instead
uh that's pretty unusual, but i'm familiar with similar creative pasta
post your rookie bracket id and i can check
I need it

Got a smoky beef based sauce going 8/10 I’d say
Should have gotten some darkening stuff to make the sauce back like tar but alas the snow makes shopping difficult
So it just looks normal
it can't get worse... right? 
man... didn't know "normal" had a place in zant's vocabulary 
This is the best bracket i ever had
I got c1 without gemming
Tis most enlightening to feed people food that taste delicious but looks like anti matter
Arena Group 114 now after last shuffle. Zomi and the Japanese one with Label avatar are in here.
Just a normal whale
Just a normal behavior
I need to figure how to make food blue without using dyes
funny coming from you, you whale 
mine is arena group 113 
Blue berry
That’s purple
Make it moldy
mana potions 

In rookie I always just hit the highest rank player I know I can most likely win against, sometimes it just happens that even after I attack them their score doesn't drop enough for someone else to go over them so I hit them with all 5
I never attack anyone out of malice.
Bro's mad

Cook with it and tell me what color it ends up
gemmeroni pepperoni with extra salteroni
@swift mango
generally looks like the above with blueberries
That’s on my list yes
You are on my list
(of people I think are pretty cool)
seeing people gem in rookie will never not be funny 
Hmm could just take the blue from your name and pour it into your food. 
Niboro
I call it Niboro because the Yu-Gi-Oh card was Nibiru and often shorten as Nib. 
i'm aware
Just Nib it.
i dont play but i watch yu gi oh master duel for entertainment
mostly the Ultimate Archfiend guy
Yu-Gi-Oh: Just Ash it, Just Nib it.
Arknight: Just Surtr it.
Nikke: Just ScarJack it. 
aint it
just salad it 
more like just vesti it kek
if i were to ever lay yu gi oh ill prob play stun
I mean ScarJack is iconic even if it's not as strong now.
Just like Surtr in Arknight, used to be the 1 braincell way to solve a boss.
Ash and Nib too, one braincell way to win.

Nib is not a duel winner anymore, almost no one run it in Duel Master 1 duel format. Counter some rouge deck in best of 3 irl game though.
Ash is still strong but every new deck come out can ignore its 1 negate and still play normally.
But those are all used to be iconic 1 braincell win moves
Strong Stun Deck in Yu-Gi-Oh right now still do 3 minutes turn 1 at least.
It's just how the game works right now. So 3 minutes are short already.

either that or go all in on waifu cards and play labyrinth

Labyrinth is also a stun deck that needs like 3 minutes to search. Like the only stun deck that works right now
the only physical cards i have is a six samurai set that's super super super super old like before syncro whatever things existed
only consist of the first gen 6 samurais

Six Sam is like the father of Combo. When everything was slow set and pass they searched and draw their whole deck in one turn to otk. 
Their main Continuous Spell that enable that was banned for the longest time.
dude i have thous cards like 18 ish years ago
they are older than some people in this server

Yeah, six Sam was not combo before Synchro
The original 6 samurai monster no one use them anymore. 
that's the ones i have
was basically stacking on equips and the end game plan was to get oblisk out
The first "6 samurais" of the many "six samurais"
i just like the look of the boss monster 
They honestly don't search much during their stun but start searching during MY turn. 
Stun deck in 2026 
Yeah, they are all girls I don't really play against it much because I haven't play Master duel since a month
Oh wait, are you playing Arknight Enfield? I see a bunch of guys on this chat playing it
Nope
1gatcha at a time

Play Neko Atsume 2
nikke isn't recognized as a game by discord
Nikke is a shoe brand.
Nikke is a gambling simulator
Definitely not a game
but they have nikki
too lewd of a game 
It's ok I hadn't hit yet, I hit him 3 times today (not 5 or else he's gonna drag us both down to r10 and 11)

nvm i lied about the lewd game part 
Light mode
Hime are you okay
I like to be aesthetic, it's not light mode 
Less than thirty minutes
About to get shafted by shuffle 
helloooo, can i get 3 teams with my nikkes? i dont have a lot of idea of how arena works
SP arena
- nayuta trina helmt RH drakeT
- jackal swha blanc centi rrh
- crown biscuit lib rapunzel noir
Notes
- build utilities (trina, centi, rapunzel)
- wishlist noah, rumani, noise
- treasure laplace
oh damm, didnt expect that info, thanks dude, kisses
for rookie arena, i can use one of this team true?
use this for rookie, you can consolidate high tier units together for better speed and CP
sp reset is coming
Nah, death awaits 
Bro
nothing changed still the same top 10
@short moon 
They just added 2 whales more and the fcking perdon who always dpent gems to kick me out to 5th im cooked
Yeah I give up. Fighting for the top 3 is too taxing for another 3 months
Im missing my old server now
oh okey, thank you bro, you did a lot 
Haha I am so cooked
Pain
i got a easier bracket( still 2 guys from the cn mafia) but i'm retired from pvp
its joever
somehow whale that isn't playing since 22.01 got reshuffled in
thought he would be in limbo
Nice reshuffle, it added a new whale kind of 
Kicked out of challenger 6
Bro that's horrible
Ain’t tryna hear nothing about how bad someone’s reshuffle was
too much cp gaps in mine.
Guess its time to wrap it up
Ggs man you're cooked 😭
TWO LEVEL 1000+ PLAYERS
Screw SU man
The hell is that
@oblique gyro I'm still with you apparently, my bro topyro is back
Getting mad just looking at it
I was always fighting top 3 or 2 in my last sever even with 41 lvl of diff i was a le to steal seats but now they just added another whale and there are dudes who just spent gems to take me to 5th im cooked
That cant be who i think it is
Bro really now with keripo and skyjlv 
Yes it's him the streamer
He’s not gonna be top 1 here with Keripo and noeita
OML...no more top 3 for me anymore...
keripo doesn't care as long as he's top 3 usually he likes to test teams
5x my cp
@acoustic light we didn’t get the other guy 
There’s still another 1000+ sync player
either way I can retire 
is greenman still a threat or has he chilled out/accepted he's not a pvper?
if greenman isn't competing, it looks like it's you vs molater for 4th. which is already bad enough, you both deserve a spot 
i was fighting hard for 2nd spot....now idk,i retire
My silver lining is that since the top 10 looks to be the same, it means I can sit in C4
Oh man maybe I’ll have to be happy with 4000 gem a month from now
When reshuffle guys
But screw having to track my times and my opponents log in and log out times in top 3 
💀
Kei the biggest loser of this 
Yeah the time has come to retire 
getting shuffled in with keripo and crew is a death sentence though yup
wdym that's an opportunity... if you're on near same invest 
Only 500 levels under ahh
just gotta spend your life savings np 😄
@tropic summit I got shuffled, help me take c1
He's stopped chasing
time to go whel hunting
Kei got this, something a lil spending wouldnt do
2x 1k+ sync
1x 900+
2x 800+
1x 750+
Yeah alright blud
I’m 647 sync 







